He deserves to be in the HOF. His international resume is crazy.

@panther7681

4 жыл бұрын

Kukoc is wayyy way more than his resume for sure, nice, humble, the very best of Bull's team player, never show off be it on and off the court. Fame and success never change him. He could have been even better, showing off more of his potential without Jordan, but that is imo.

@chaoticneutral4729

4 жыл бұрын

Popo i really want him to be a HOF so people who say he was just “carried” by Jordan would realize his talent.

@panther7681

4 жыл бұрын

@@chaoticneutral4729 people who say that, they don't know what they are talking about. I like Kukoc since he joined the Bulls. To me and to many people I believe, he has much better talents than what Bulls asked hime to play, I just think, marketing wise, they can't have people outshined Jordan, and that is bullcrap. Kukoc received many awards except for this Naismith hof. They gave awards to many undeserved, like Yao Ming, for example, seriously??? Nothing against him, but he is way far behind Kukoc in terms of skills. I don't know, but everytime when someone asked me who I think is best in Bulls, I always say Tony Kukoc, the pink panther, the white magic, the waiter..etc 🤘

@chaoticneutral4729

4 жыл бұрын

Popo exactly he needs to be the HOF. But has good competition like Ben Wallace and Chris Webber

@RennWickam

4 жыл бұрын

If Šarūnas Marčiulionis is in the HOF then Kukoc definitely deserves to be there, no disrespect to Šarūnas, but Kukoc has a better career not just overseas, but overall

Kukoc was two decades ahead of his time. He’d be very well suited to today’s league.

@ricardas16

4 жыл бұрын

and so was drazen and sabonis

@markboston9303

4 жыл бұрын

Kukoc was made for any era. What killed him and few other good shooting wings was the ISO mid-range game. It's good, but if dude just a catch and shoot and baseline run player he easily would've been a top-10 scorer every year. Hell Stoyakovic was able to do it with a lesser inside and playmaking game. Think of Kukoc in that role with those handles

@paksta

4 жыл бұрын

Mark From Bostom Totally agree with everything you said. And I think his influence is often undervalued. However, I’d be excited to see him as a sometime point-forward in today’s league, where he could shoot and pass even more at will. Nevermind, still had a great impact.

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

Kukoc was the original, and he should be an automatic hall of famer.

@paksta

3 жыл бұрын

manu ochenta Wait, hold up. The focus was on size after Shaq? Mate, he was born into an era of dominant bigs. Jordan was very much the exception more than he was the rule. And now look at things... guys like Porzingas are barely allowed to post up, and bigs like KAT and Embiid shoot threes all day. Kukoc is more versatile than most bigs even today, with the right range. And Mark Price would be great today.

He's the only player in history to win three EuroLeague Finals (89-91) and three NBA Finals (96-98) in a row. This is the definition of a HOF accolade.

@ethanaugur412

3 жыл бұрын

Λαθρό yea But he couldn’t do it alone

@dusk6159

3 жыл бұрын

@Λαθρό The Finals weren't won by Jordan at all, not even close, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc, Harper, Kerr, Grant and Paxson the first time around all coached by Phil Jackson made sure of that. Especially in ECFs.

@republikadugave420

3 жыл бұрын

@@ethanaugur412 he was the best player on jugoplastika, croatia and benetton ...in benetton by far the best player

@tdozzy991

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think being a 6th man for 3 titles makes a person a hof. Horry has more titles than kukoc including his minor league titles.

@tdozzy991

2 жыл бұрын

@@dusk6159 but if you can say one person won a finals it would be mj. Hes the all time leader in scoring in the post season . ALLL TIME

FINALLY HE IS IN THE HALL OF FAME CLASS OF 2021. WELL DESERVED TONI

European players in 80s were something else: Sabonis, Kukoc, Petrovic. Damn. Huge fan of Kukoc. Of course he should have been at HoF.

@bandana3570

4 жыл бұрын

in the 90s, not the 80s

@jackcantwell2539

4 жыл бұрын

They are in today’s era to Luka doncic is a different breed

@dannypqliar8763

4 жыл бұрын

A couple more: Vlade Divac (Lakers), Predrag Danilovic (Heat)

@alo.5141

4 жыл бұрын

Drazen Petrovic was a BAAAD man, wish his life didn't get cut short

@IvanLendl87

4 жыл бұрын

I so wish Sabonis had the opportunity to play a full career in the NBA. He was a major talent.

Kukoc is a Hall Of Famer just on his European resume alone. I mean if Sabonis is in the HOF, Kukoc should be in there as well. Add the NBA career and he's should be in it already.

I ask this question every year when the HOF announces candidates. How is it possible? Šarūnas Marčiulionis is a hall of famer but Kukoc isn't? Kukoc's resume in Europe alone is worth it. I did hear that this year his name came up for the international committee vote which of course got declined and they will vote next year? Kukoc needs to be in it. It's not right!

@vincentlospinuso7232

4 жыл бұрын

He’ll make it

@BrockMak

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Sure, being FIBA Hall-of-Famer doesn't guarantee you a ticket to Springfield, but come on: It isn't NBA/WNBA/NCAA Hall of Fame!

@DeltaLou

4 жыл бұрын

@@BrockMak It is the Basketball Hall of Fame, and they count all those leagues.

@tabijozwick

4 жыл бұрын

Delta Lou most people tend to think that the Naismith basketball hall of fame only admit NBA ALL-STARS. What they don’t realize is that the NBA All-Star game is nothing more than a POPULARITY CONTEST.

@HrvojeBan

4 жыл бұрын

I guess they don't want him in the HOF because they don't want to piss off the GOAT, since he would probably think that they're trying to diminish his greatness by giving the HOF status to one more of his second threepeat team mates (next to Pip and Rodman).

You know, when Jordan had a bad game in the finals against the Sonics he made an excuse about Father’s Day. When ex-Yugoslavian players were playing in the 90s their families were forced into a bloody civil war (probably the most significant since ww2 at that time). Friends and families were being murdered left and right in cold blood but, I don’t remember them ever complaining about it. The fact that they were able to play in the NBA during those times while being so far away from loved ones is a true testament to the heart inside of those people.

@haad999

4 жыл бұрын

are you stupid, why would you compare the deaths of family and player emotions? Not everyone is as close to their father and everyone is affected by it differently. Jordans father was his shield, was with him to all previous finals game and he was very close to their father. Just because ex-Yugoslavian players families were involved in a bloodshed doesnt take away that his fathers death affected Michael Jordan mentally, you have also have a heart when you are affected by your fathers death. He still got teary eyed talking about him all these years later.

@yungvegar

4 жыл бұрын

haad999 haad999 haad999 this reply is so bad that it doesn’t even deserve a response. Yes, both are tragic things. You clearly don’t understand like I do how hard it was to call someone on the phone after a game to find out your friend was murdered and not be able to go to his funeral. Those players lived with THAT for 10+ years when they were in the NBA. Lots of people died and lots of friendships and families were torn apart. It was a period of pure horror. Toni called his dad once to ask how things were and his dad told him that a neighbour was running around outside of his house with a gun trying to kill him while police were trying to contain him. I know you can’t put yourself in those shoes so I don’t expect you to understand.

@jusone9802

4 жыл бұрын

@@haad999 This is one of THE WORST comments I have ever read on KZread. Your logic is absolutely ridiculous. Wow. Just wow!

@robrig55

4 жыл бұрын

Insensitive comment

@haad999

4 жыл бұрын

@@yungvegar Dude stop, I have seen people whose family have been struck by the Taliban's suicide bombings. I was a witness myself because of school shutting down because apparently there was a bomb in school. You white boys know nothing of death but like "let's compare tragedies", people live with those outside the NBA. You glorified just the NBA players "a lot of heart" plain stupid, a lot of people are living with that who aren't in fame. I know people whose dad and uncle have been murdered by corrupt politicians here, they wouldn't come and say just because my family got murdered, "I have heart" if I push on. Michael using his dad's death wasn't an excuse. People who are affected by having their families murdered aren't like just because it happened to me, I'm tough if you can't handle it you are soft. Just hit up Toni Kukoc and ask him about it, was Michael's dad death an excuse?

If Dino radja and grant hill could make the hall of fame, then other players like Kukoc should be in it too.

@flipflop4396

4 жыл бұрын

Grant Hill maybe havent won anything, but was dude top 5 players in late 90s, in 99 best player in league without any doubt. Biggest prospect in NBA at that time. He averaged 20 points per game in his rookie season with 6 rebounds and 5 assists per game. In 99 season he averaged 25 points per game. Ankle injury destoryed his career since he never came back from it. Similar story as Tracy Mcgrady.

@godra051

4 жыл бұрын

Dino Radja is not among worst ones in there. But Kukoc definitely deserves it. Pippen and Jordan surprised him first game. But why you and everyone else dont mention what he did in final? Kukoc outplayed Pippen and Petrovic outplayed Jordan in the final!

@godra051

4 жыл бұрын

@@noomade Check again. Buzzer shots that carried team through never happen by what you saying

@godra051

4 жыл бұрын

@@noomade And you are talking about the guy who was 3rd, right behind Pippen, as a scorer and assistant in one of greatest teams of all time. Rodman is Hall of fame with 7 points per game, since you talk about points..

@summeronio9751

4 жыл бұрын

Hill and Radja shouldn't be in..

I am a serb and if DIVAC can be in that house then so he can be.. He deserve it more then Divac and Dino..

@bandana3570

4 жыл бұрын

totally agree for Divac AND Dino

@puttyputty123

4 жыл бұрын

Agree. He was a superstar even before he entered the NBA. Probably the best European player ever(?). He suffers from being on the best team in the NBA in the 90s (how odd that even sounds).

@jasonallen3678

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@davidsantiago3360

4 жыл бұрын

You crazy? Divac was a way better player

@bandana3570

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidsantiago3360 No way. Not in the national team of yugoslavia, where they played together, not in the NBA. No titles, no crazy buzzer beaters like Toni

I'd rather be a champion than an Allstar. Melo left the group.

@AMHoops

4 жыл бұрын

Respect it ✊🏼

@SuperChristianX

4 жыл бұрын

Best comment so far! XD

@minisurfbanana

4 жыл бұрын

You mean on the bench?

@michaelcannon4830

4 жыл бұрын

Mini Surf off the bench on a team w 5 hall of famers...... Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Jackson, Kerr.....

@arsonhakobyan

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcannon4830 Pippen & Jordan are the only Hall of Famers to really not on that team in terms of players. Rodman's selection was more celebrity-driven than play-driven.

By the number of trophies & awards Kukoc won, I believe that he could be in the TOP 10 "GOATS" EVER conversation - just read the list: 3× NBA champion (1996-1998) NBA Sixth Man of the Year (1996) NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1994) FIBA World Championship MVP (1990) FIBA EuroBasket MVP (1991) FIBA's 50 Greatest Players (1991) 5× Euroscar Player of the Year (1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1998) 4× Mister Europa Player of the Year (1990-1992, 1996) 3× EuroLeague champion (1989-1991) 3× EuroLeague Final Four MVP (1990, 1991, 1993) EuroLeague Finals Top Scorer (1990) FIBA European Selection (1991) 50 Greatest EuroLeague Contributors (2008) Italian League champion (1992) Italian Cup winner (1993) 4× Yugoslav League champion (1988-1991) 2× Yugoslav Cup winner (1990, 1991) 3× Croatian Sportsman of the Year (1989-1991) Franjo Bučar State Award for Sport (1992) And this guy is not in the HOF??? That speaks more about the HOF organization then about Kukoc himself.

@HrvojeBan

4 жыл бұрын

And people might not know that before the dissolution of Yugoslavia, Yugoslav basketball league was the strongest league in Europe, so winning championships and cups was maybe even more difficult than winning European trophies.

@mr.pakers1033

4 жыл бұрын

Dude he deserve the HOF but dont say his in the top 10 goat ever

@dmag884

4 жыл бұрын

He was also on a junior team that won the world championship gold, beating the Larry Brown--coached US team that featured players like Alonzo Mourning and Larry Johnson. He hit a ton of 3s that game (don't recall exactly how many)

@scouter-xn6zi

4 жыл бұрын

@@dmag884 He scored 13 3-pointers in another game. That was the 1987 World Juniors Championship. Dino an Sasha Djordjevic were in that team, too, I think Vlado Divac as well. All 4 were parts of the senior squad which participated in the men's Eurobasket that summer and won bronze ...

@ag2smal

4 жыл бұрын

You forgot 1987 U19 world champion & MVP - with THAT game when he put 11/12 3P against USA

He should be in the hall of fame based on his European career alone. Add to that a very good NBA career, it's a no brainer.

@michaelcannon4830

4 жыл бұрын

M S ask Charles, Stockton, or Malone if he would trade his MVP or all star games for a championship...

Volume te zauvijek Toni Kukoc.😍😍😍from Philippines to Croatia 🇵🇭🇭🇷

@intersanctum

4 жыл бұрын

Volim te.

@wazzupdawg8442

3 жыл бұрын

I Tona Kakač volume Filipina ista iz Hrvack 😍😍😍🇵🇭🇽🇰

"He's from a small town of Split in Croatia." Well it's the second biggest here, we don't really consider it small

@misterpete8001

4 жыл бұрын

That's true split is quite well known especially because of the football team

@draganbsmilevski7774

3 жыл бұрын

Well in America every other town is small comparing to them - and they need to say that. They're Americans. I've lived and worked there and you get used to their mentality and way of thinking - you just ignore it same as Kukoc did when Pippen and Jordan were crying about him all the time.

@zoranknezevic348

3 жыл бұрын

Maiby, we did not know what is bih, well here in America everyting od huge,so we need update.

A.M Hoops, you're young, so you don't know any better. Toni Kukoc was THEE headache in the Bulls second 3-peat, teams had no answer for him.

@deegahl8161

4 жыл бұрын

Facts! And he definitely deserves a place in the Hall.

@tumadrexuxa

4 жыл бұрын

Fuck are you 12?? Kukoc was a good role player at best

@stevolukic

4 жыл бұрын

@@tumadrexuxa you don't know shit. Kukoč was a great role player. He just couldn't fit in that style of basketball.

@pixbj1

4 жыл бұрын

kid is a joke.he saw last dance scene with pip acting like lil sissy ,and made entire video around that.kid knows very little about bball.

@boci4618

4 жыл бұрын

@@tumadrexuxa nah youre 12 just look at his awards on his wiki

Toni Kukoc was my favorite nba players back in 90s

I don't know why people still keep saying that they humiliated him on the Olympic games in 1992!? They did it in the first game. But, they DID NOT in the final game of the Olympic games. Toni had 16 points & 9 assists (the most of any player from both sides at the Final game!). He was one of the best & most talented player from the both sides of Atlantic. His early years in Europe, man... that was beautiful to watch. If they want to shortchange Toni in The Last Dance, I'm calling it shenanigans.

@gricius

4 жыл бұрын

after watching the Last Dance series, I definitely gained only respect for Kukoc. He showed that he can come back from a bad game, and he earned the respect from Jordan and Pippen, which is why Kukoc fit in so well with the Bulls team.

@pp-vf8ls

4 жыл бұрын

US media would never tainted that Dream Team, its only because of The Last Dance it shows some lights that Jordan really appreciate Kukoc basketball skills

@admtnic

4 жыл бұрын

There never would have even been a Dream Team if it weren't for the Yugoslavian national team lead by Kukoc. They beat the U.S. so many times from 87-91 in international play that the U.S. had to have professionals to beat them. Look it up. Search 'kukoc hits 11 3's against U.S.'...thats right, he went 11/12 in 3's and DESTROYED the U.S. in 87.

Same story as always, NBA disrespecting european players. It must hurt that the next best players in the league are Giannis and Luka. You guys got your lesson.

@alexanderpaulsanchezfahren9263

4 жыл бұрын

@M S are you seriously telling me Luka plays defense? And I'm not comparing them, I'm just saying European players deserve a lot more respect. And Tony did enough to deserve being a Hall of Famer, no doubt

@couch-fosbos1147

4 жыл бұрын

@M S You know nothing M S

@JR-mk6ow

4 жыл бұрын

@M S Luka playing defense? Ahah what are you talking about?

@markomarkovic5729

3 жыл бұрын

@M S You know nothing about basketball

@thegentlemen9389

3 жыл бұрын

Idk you have Tre, Ja, KD still has years left AD i can't say that but they'll be fun to watch

When calling Kukoc a benchplayer and 6th man, people tend to forget that he started basically a season when Pippen was injured and often benched Rodman.

@sikecar534

3 жыл бұрын

He was instrumental in that last championship. Game 5 of the finals.....and that wouldn't go to Game 6 if Toni had the last shot.

Little bit of history... Dražen Petrovic (Portland/NJ), Toni Kukoc (Chicago...), Dino Radja (Boston) and Stojko Vrankovic (Boston) from Croatia. Vlade Divac (LA Lakers), Zarko Paspalj (San Antonio) and Aleksandar Djordjevic (Boston) from Serbia. During 80es, they all were playing together in Yugoslavian National Team in late 80es, which is considered as the best NT in history of EU basketball. Some people are calling it the Yugoslavian Dream Team. All of them signed in NBA as the 1st contingent of players coming from EU. Later on came Sarunas Marculionis and Arvidas Sabonis from Lithuania. Detlef Schrempf was maybe the 1st Euro player in NBA, but he signed in from College basketball, so he was without EU basketball experience. In my opinion, those players were so dominant that even today they would wipe out the whole Europe's basketball. And I don't mean they should be in their primes. Nope. I mean that literally (of course, with exception of late Drazen Petrovic), if they could come to play as they are today, in their 50es, after maybe few months of training, they would still dominate Europe. That's how good they were. I would like to make yet another comparison... The Dream Team (US), without any second thought, was the best team which ever played on basketball fields. They've really easily conquered the Olympics 1992. But, it's worth to mention, in 1991. Yugoslavia as the state, thus Yugoslavian Dream Team, broke up. Although, the Dream Team was the best team ever composed, at Olympics 1992. in one match, by FIBA rules, I'm sure they wouldn't have such an easy job if they'd play vs. Yugoslavia. Believe me, I know, and I'm not joking, that match would be a tight one. And I can't even describe how sorry I am such spectacle never happened.

@bandana3570

4 жыл бұрын

you are kidding. The 92 dream Team was the best team ever. i agree definetly. But you really think, the yugoslawian Team had a chance? c'mon. Just look at the role those yugos played in the NBA. Had anyone a status of any of the dream team players (except Lattner, who wasn't an NBA player at that time) Only Drazen had for a short time in New Jersey the status of a team leader. Kukoc (behind Pippen and Jordan in Chigago) was THE MVP of the World Cup in Argentina . The dream Team would be better on EVERY position Jordan > Petrovic Stockton/Magic > Djordjevic Pippen/Bird > Kukoc/Paspalj Malone/Barkley >> Radja Robinson/Ewing >> Divac/Vrankovic

@damyr

4 жыл бұрын

@@bandana3570 You didn't understand my point. I'll try to explain in more details. The Dream Team is the best team ever gathered in the history of basketball (I could argue even in the history of sport in general). There's no doubt in that and I already stated that. So, we both agree. Jordan&co are all better individually than players from Yugoslavia. But, there's one important note to add into the calculation --- basketball is a team sport. You didn't think of the fact those players of Yugoslavia played and trained together since they were kids. In Europe, when they're younger, players are sorted in categories based on their age, and the best of them are chosen to play together in their national teams, through various younger selections. We have international tournaments for national teams based on age categories... U12, U13, U14, U15, U16, U17, U18, U19, U20... where "U" means "under", for certain years of age. So, all in all, players of that generation of Yugoslavian NT trained and played together, in dozens of matches through years. They know each other so well, they could play together with blind folds on their eyes. They know what each other thinks, without saying a word and their team work is impeccable. In 1987. I've watched all those players in Bormio, Italy, at the World Championship for juniors (category U19). They dominated and easily won the cup. On the other hand, The Dream Team players never played together. They've trained only for couple of months within preparations for the Olympics. Even if they are all super stars, unlike Yugoslavian players, they didn't learn to play together through years of junior selections. So, my point was... In one match (not best out of 7), under FIBA rules (there was few important differences regarding NBA rules), Yugoslavia would be eligible for making an upset. And I believe that with all my heart and knowledge. USA would still be the front runner, and chances for Yugoslavia to win it would be pretty small. But even so, they still would have a chance. At least the match would be more equal than any other at the tournament. Also, don't forget, it's a fact that not every time a better team wins. Sometimes even underdogs can make it. The sad part is we won't have a chance to know that. Well, maybe in some another dimension of existence? :)

@damyr

4 жыл бұрын

@@bandana3570 Just to get a more clear picture of the background of the story, this is a highlights video of the last years of Yugoslavian national team (excerpts from 1989 EU championship/1990 World cup/1991 EU championship): kzread.info/dash/bejne/fH12w7SgeqfXips.html (no tone, probably because copyright music was removed) That Yugoslavian generation for years dominated over the whole world, in a similar manner as The Dream Team dominated the Olympics in 1992.

@bandana3570

4 жыл бұрын

I got your point. And i still remember me how excited i was i both matches at the Olympic against Croatia (I'm Croatian) and in 92 i was proud that Croatia was the only team, that lead in a match against the Dream Team. From our perspective at that time we could play with them . But if you watch both matches now without emotions, it's a clear thing. The matches were tight only for a few minutes. With Yugoslavia it would be only a few minutes more. Rađa and Vranković played. If Divac plays, one of them is on the bench. It's the same with Kukoč, Petrović. If Paspalj and Đorđević, are on the court, one of them is on the bench. The other Croatian guard Komazec played well, too. So I wouldn't say, it was a big leak Even if it was Yugoslavia and not Croatia at that time, the never played against such a team before. Yes, on the world cup, they destroyed the US team, but the college team😜

@damyr

4 жыл бұрын

@@bandana3570 Yeah, we are both Croatians. I thought you're from US, because I wouldn't waste so much words to explain the system to you, but never mind... Petrović, Kukoč, Paspalj, Rađa, Divac was the usual starting line up in YU team. Rađa played as power forward. I was deep into basketball then. It was my No1 sport, but I don't watch it for decades. Basketball nowadays is like women's basketball during 80es. ;) Anyway, I think YU team would give US team much trouble. At least, it would definitely be something else, because all the teams at the Olympics didn't even bother to play seriously. Of all those players, only one, just one man gave his best, actually thinking he has a chance - Dražen Petrović. Everyone else were there just to take pictures with the Dream Team's players. Take that into account, also. And no, I don't care for Yugoslavia and it doesn't bother me that country fell apart. It was for the best. I'm just sorry, from a basketball fan perspective, that clash YU vs US never happened. But whatever. Cest la vie. Pozdrav iz ZD. ;)

The BEST Sixth Man in the league during the 90s for sure!

Jordan really had some of the best of everything. Sharpshooters Rebounders Perimeter defenders Play making forwards 6th man Best coaching Jordan & Phil Should’ve gave Jerry his damn credit in the beginning . That’s all he wanted. He knew what the hell he was doing and did a damn good job.

@MrSayWhatIThink23

4 жыл бұрын

Krause was apart of the problem too, he wanted too much credit

@panther7681

4 жыл бұрын

I think Jordan shouldn't be the one to criticise Kause. What Jordan did to his teammates was not far from what Krause trying to do with the organization. I think they were squared. Cos regardless of the outcomes, it was the process that make them the same.

@pixbj1

4 жыл бұрын

man build that team mj .last dance isn't documentary.it's mj side of story ,told way he wanted it to be told.

@jaahnnn

4 жыл бұрын

Don't tell jordan fans this when the lebron debate comes up

@blo2706

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaahnnn Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, AD, Allen, Chambers, Rondo, Dwight, Gasol, Hughes, Korver, Battier, Big Z, Drummond, Montrezl.

Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc and Rodman best starting five of 2nd 3-peat.

@sethmcbay5501

4 жыл бұрын

My top 5 as well

@bandana3570

4 жыл бұрын

in that 5 or Kukoc or Rodman play the center. I can understand Phil to put Kukoc at the 6th man. He could play any position. So his "normal" starting 5 plays completly withot getting much weeker by a subsistute (except MJ of course)

@a.s.4077

4 жыл бұрын

Ban Dana when they played this line-up it was without real Center....Kukoc would do the jumpball and Rodman would mostly defend the Centers...Kukoc the PFs depending who they were playing. Actually they also played without a real PG. Harper was a SG with formerly a lot of athleticism that he lost due to injuries. So he became a „ PG“ in Chicago. But Pippen, Kukoc and Jordan could also bring the ball.

@HIMCULES

4 жыл бұрын

@@a.s.4077 Rodman could handle Shaq and hoover the rebounds, who needs a center.

@michaelcannon4830

4 жыл бұрын

A. S. I love somebody that really knows those Bulls teams.... I loved that lineup in games as well. Almost as much as I loved Johnny Bach’s Dobermans on the fast break with Michael bringing it up.... Scottie on one wing Horace on the other.

Well....in finals against Dream Team he had 16p, 9a, 6r on 30min. So everybody should stop talking only about first game in which everybody except Petrovic and Rađa was scared playing against Dream Team for the first time. He had great finals game, playied beautefly and got standing ovation from the entire arena.

The only 3 peat Euroleague Champion, & 3 NBA Champion. FIBA MVP, Euroleague MVP, FIBA 50 greatest player, NBA Sixth Man of the year. Still not in HOF what disgrace... Ratliff got injured.

40k subs. Keep growing 🙌

@AMHoops

4 жыл бұрын

Thx E B ✌🏼

I'll never forget Pippen sitting out that finals' play nor him dissing my friends mom who asked a waitress if she could make a quiet request for a signed napkin when she saw him at a restaurant.

@stuartperry8141

4 жыл бұрын

Why do people think players owe them something?

@michaelcannon4830

4 жыл бұрын

There is a good reason he is known as no tippin pippin around Chicago.

@thesaneparty4079

3 жыл бұрын

If I were that waitress, I would have said politely, GFY. (edit- to the mom, if that weren't clear)

Toni Kukoč was my favorite player growing up. A perfect all-rounder, deadly shooter and so amazing to watch. His passes were legendary. Luka Dončić somewhat reminds me of him, just much stronger. And that destroyed at the Olympics is relative. He was more than solid in the final game and was a silver medalist. Should be mentioned. Great video! regards from Slovenia

I miss nba... Hug to hug to those who miss the nba too...

@celebritv4283

4 жыл бұрын

hugs

Great videos btw. Thoughtful 👍💪

Toni should be a hall of famer based on his international play alone

At the time of the Dream Team Drazen Petrovic was the bigger star on the croatia team. He already played in the NBA (against Jordan) and was a "legend" in European Basketball. He unfortunately died in a car accident. Kukoc should become a Hall of Famer because he kinda represented "Europe" and European Basketball - not "only" Croatia - in the NBA and especially on one of the best teams ever and was a role player!

@tonymack2007

4 жыл бұрын

Marbury isn't in the nba hall of fame.

@slimp9377

4 жыл бұрын

The Great One so he lied to me. Thx!

@iFanchi

4 жыл бұрын

Kukoc was not a role player he was the scoring 3rd option on the Bulls.

No question about it. He should be in Hall of Fame. It just shows you there are some bias in NBA.

Well,he is now! He is,officially inducted in the HOF! Greetings from Croatia✌🇭🇷

Good video!

@narcozz9670

4 жыл бұрын

Beat me to it

Regarding the Olympic games in 92, you should watch the 2nd game between Croatia and the U.S., Pippen could NOT stop Kukoc, he had 16 points (from which some 1 on 1 against Scottie), 9 Assists and 5 rebounds.

No second 3peat without Toni.

Tony is loved in chicago! 3 rings and game winning hall of fame playoff moments. Definitely deserves to be in the NBA HOF.

I am glad that you made video on Croatian player

Coach Brown had Danny Manning in college. I think it’s more about the player than the coach didn’t know how to use him.

Humiliated in a group stage,in the finals same defense wasn't working any more,he had a great all round game given the circumstances.

how does this channel only have 43k subs??!

Great video. I like that you were defending Kukoc because he deserves it. He also deserved to be an all star player. He did it all, and without question the second best player out of Europe of all time after legendary Petrovic. Won’t surprise me if kukoc gets hall of fame also.

Small town Split, Croatia? lol Split is the second largest city in Croatia and the third largest city on the Adriatic.

its not who starts the game, its who finishes. closing lineup for chi during those years: harp, mj, pip, rod and toni

youve done your homework. respect

Toni kukoc is by my oppinion (and i go with what all GREATS are sayin.."winning counts) THE BEAST EU player off ALL TIME...people these days argue betwen Sabonis and Petro, maybe u will have one or two greeks trowing Galiss name in there but of all those names Toni won more and sooner then any of them. he was 3 time eu champ with his team, 3 time MVP 1989,90,91 frsit two times 89.90 people say it was great team..OK..but Third time Evryone left Coach, half of team, war started in Croatia... Toni is stuck with new coach and bunch of rooks again winning all..averaging triple dbl for that season olympic silver medalist champion of the WORLD, MVP as well 1990 only basketball palyer in the world that opposition turn of the lights in the arena to try to cool him off... Italy semifinal only bb player in the world that won MVP trophy as a member of losing team EU final four 1993 droped 11 trees on Gary Peyton, Plastic man, Alonzo mourining italy 1987 frist eu player that won nba championship and individal reward as best sixt man 1996 and many more.... so conclusion he won and he was best or one of the best players of his teams, meanning he was BUS DRIVER he wasnt there for a ride, regarding him beeing soft is not true he was not great defender but ok one (magic jhonson larry brid etc) he had one problem on defense that is power down low if he is a pussy player do u think phil Jackson would give him the ball and said "here toni take us HOME" while u have MJ and Pippen on ur team, no screens no bullshit, here is the ball Toni all others get out of his way including MJ and pippen..and PHIL did that plenty of times he was gound breaker in nba regarding eu players and if marculonis divac etc are in HOF he should be too cheers

@AMHoops

4 жыл бұрын

Dirk is easily better than Toni Kukoc. Dirk carried teams as the number 1 option for almost 2 decades. Not even an argument.

@tomisaric9686

4 жыл бұрын

@@AMHoops Dirk did nothing in EU so he cant be best EU player by definition, u might want to say he is best EU player in NBA, tho there is oe more player who won nba chip while beeing MVP finals in San Antonio altho i agree it will go to drik as best eu player in nba... Do u think that MJ is best college bb player of all time..NO right..then dirk cant be best eu palyer of all time

@AMHoops

4 жыл бұрын

Tomi Saric Ahhhh, I didn’t understand your point. 👊🏼

@tomisaric9686

4 жыл бұрын

@@AMHoops it ok..cheers m8 and great video

@scouter-xn6zi

4 жыл бұрын

@@AMHoops Dirk went to the NBA from the A2 of Germany, but he was nothing more than a hot prospect in the Mavs scouts eyes (kudos to them, by the way). Dirk built his career in the US and (then) with the national team of Germany. Toni had an extensive background of titles and accomplishments in Europe and was already a big star before moving to the NBA. I think this is what Tomi Saric meant (btw I'm from Hellas and witnessed Toni's accomplishments "live" back in the day). In general I find it hard to compare European players anymore ; greats like Dirk, Pau and Toni Parker made the 99% of their "club" careers in the NBA while priors like Drazen and Toni (Vlado Divac, Dino, Sarunas etc.) had to become top european stars first before they even got an opportunity in the NBA plus they were treated like nobodies at the first steps of this process. Also, older ones, like Galis, Dalipagic, Riva etc. only played in Europe either because the difference was huge or because they would not be able to participate in FIBA (national team) competitions if the yever played 1 second in the NBA. Great video !

Its the basketball hall of fame not the nba hall of fame he should be in the hof because of what he did in europe

@sikecar534

3 жыл бұрын

He is in Basketball hall of fame.

It's the Basketball, not NBA hall of fame, so hell yeah, Toni definitely deserves a nod

He's in NOW! Congrats Toni!!!

I grew up watching Toni Kukoc winning the 3peat with Jugoplastica. He was 19, 20 and 21 y.o at that time. He was also part (and the big attraction I would dare to say) of the great Yugoslavia national team. I have to say this. Maybe the new guy (Luca Doncic) is unbelievably amazing, but Toni was really something else. If he had arrived to the NBA in a similar age like Luka (and perhaps in a different team), NBA would have seen the real Toni. And I think that's what the rest of the world is missing in knowing about Toni. From a great fan of Toni Kukoc from Greece

@dinkosumar369

4 жыл бұрын

all true my friend from greece i never miss any of all hiss career games For me Toni should be in the 50 of greatest basketball plyers all time greetings from CRoatia old school of basketball

best european bb generation of all times by far was the 85/95 generation..we had in europe the UNITED SOVIET UNION and UNITED YUGOSLAVIA of the time that produced Sabonic,Martsullionis,Volkov,Drajen,Divac,Radja,Kukoc,Vrankovic,Danilovic,Paspalie etc..the Greatest scorer of all times in european bb and HOF(out of 6 non nba)Nick Galis an ustoppable offensive and spectacular player that has scored countless 40 plus games against all above superstars their clubs and their national teams , Detlef SHrempf and quite a plethora of players from Spain and Italy and France who made their mark on european bb like Epi,Magnifiquo,Jamsee ,Dantoni and others.. Kukoc was the best in his position as a small forward with very good guard skills..the following generation was good but never considered the golden like the previous..the UNITED YUGOSLAVIA TEAM OF 89 was deemed as the euro dream team rightfully so and definately better overall than the Croatian team that faced the dream team in Barcelona..a true pan european DREAM TEAM of that era had good chances of staying within 10 from the 1992 Dream Team..they had enough fire power in all positions..

2:30 Split is not a small town. 2nd biggest city in Croatia with almost half a million people

Kukoc started with the Bulls in the 93/94 season. I’m assuming Krause first noticed him in the 1988 Olympics on the silver medal team.

Shooting 42% from the field is not inefficient. considering that Kukoc was left with a Chicago Bulls team set up to be the last team in the league, after the departure of MJ, Pippen, Kerr, Rodman Longley at the same time in 1998

I am from Split, Croatia like Toni

He was under utilized and underrated. Poor guy being a victim rather than hero.

So happy that Kukoc finally got recognition he deserved, and that he's in HOF. Great guy, great player!

Didn’t watch yet but Ik I’m in for a show

It's not the NBA HOF. Just the basketball one. He should and eventually will.

KUKOC would of easily averaged 20/7/7/ on any other team in his prime years 95-99

@deliriumbee4678

4 жыл бұрын

His prime was much earlier and lasted much later

@xxxxxJAYMILLZxxxxxxx

4 жыл бұрын

chocombo gaming referring to his prime in the nba, believe me when he played in his natural position like he did in Europe before he came PLUS if he didn’t put on all that weight on like he did with Chicago .. he would of been a mini Kevin Durant.

Toni Kukoc dominated Europe and he was the third best offensive player in the Bulls 1995-1998. Kukoc belongs to HOF

He may not have been a great defender but that man had some skills. I saw him live with MJ & Scottie and afterwards many times. His ability was overshadowed in Chicago and not understood by other coaches once he went to those team's. He deserves to be in the HOF internationally and In the USA. Very gifted and a good guy. He was just not outspoken like some other players therefore wasn't as well known for fans outside the Bulls..

This is the worst bull crap I’ve ever seen. First, in your Luc Longley vid, you call Perth a small town (wrong) and now you call Kukoc a bad player (wrong)

@michaelcannon4830

4 жыл бұрын

The small town of Perth..... population 2 million lol

@pixbj1

4 жыл бұрын

kid knows nothing and makes minimum effort in to this vids .any bball fan should know that after watching one of his videos

@amradzinovic4086

4 жыл бұрын

Christopher Hanley Yes...he's pretty stupid.

@theadmiral460

3 жыл бұрын

haha Perth is a small town? I guess Sydney is a village then

The Dream Team played Croatia 2 times. Of course, the first game, Kukoc played badly. Why is it never mentioned that in the final at the Olympics in 1992, Kukoc had a very good game vs Jordan or Puppen? Even Jordan said this guy can play!

@iFanchi

4 жыл бұрын

Well it is always mentioned that he had a very good finals game. 🤷🏽‍♂️

@ourinicolet5653

4 жыл бұрын

fanchi Kelly I don’t think so. It’s also said that it’s the first time that he was confronted to nba players. Well, in 1989, he played against Denver and 1990 vs NY Knicks. At that time, he made already a great impression.

@iFanchi

4 жыл бұрын

Ouri Nicolet every time they talk about the 1992 Olympics, they talk about both games. The first game how Jordan and Pippen defended him and how he adjusted the second game. I never saw a sports report which didn’t talk about both games. Plus your initial comment was about the Olympics, not about the Denver and NY games.

@ceegun

4 жыл бұрын

Because US media is searching drama and publicity

@panther7681

4 жыл бұрын

Because American media,spectators, sports casters, couldn't handle the fact that this guy was actually on par and very good, they'd rather praise their own and gives hazy recognition to others beyond their wall.

It's 2021 & Toni is in the HOF.

I met him a couple of years ago. I liked his chill

Hes already Hall Of Famer He already inducted in Hall of Fame for FIBA ( international Federation of Basketball ) he will soon to be inducted to NBA Hall of Fame he now included in class 2021 to be enshrined this Sep.

The racial animosity of Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan played a huge role in keeping Kukoc on the bench. In reality, he should have been the starting guard instead of Ron Harper. But Scottie was too butt hurt about his contract. His agent is 100% correct, he would have fared much better out west. Also, the Dream Team didn't humiliate Kukoc. He had a bad 1st game against them not realizing that Jordan and Pippen were seething with anger towards him and were going to double team him as much as possible. But, he played much better during the 2nd game (for the gold medal) with 16 points, 9 assists, and 5 rebounds.

@iFanchi

4 жыл бұрын

Kukoc was on the bench, because they didn’t need him as a starter, he was their scoring threat coming off the bench. It had nothing to do that they wanted to keep him on the bench, the best players were always in the game at the end of the game and guess what Kukoc always was in the game in the 4th quarter when things mattered. The Bulls went small ball with Theo best player Rodman, Pippen, Kukoc, Harper and Jordan.

@lorimabee2564

4 жыл бұрын

I would be butt hurt too fool

@SuperZap12345

4 жыл бұрын

@@lorimabee2564 Why is a woman discussing sports? Go make the man in your house a sandwich.

@captainsteve7817

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, Phil Jackson made the decisions about the Bulls starting 5, not Pippen or Jordan. The best player in Europe was the sixth man in the Bull's lineup and yet Krause decided to pay him more than any other Bulls player ever. Kukoc had done exactly ZERO for the Bulls. This is a good example why Jordan and Pippen hated Krause and justifiably so. I would think we had found Jerry Krause's youtube account based on your comment if he wasn't dead.

@SuperZap12345

4 жыл бұрын

@@captainsteve7817 Only an idiot thinks that Jordan didn't have any say in who was part of the starting five. The best player from Europe was relegated to sixth man in many cases because Jordan and Pippen were angry that Krause talked him up and paid him a lot of money (comparatively). There were plenty of other European players that also were relegated to the bench, Drazen Petrovic being a prime example that when they got their opportunity to start, they really blossomed. Krause made tons of moves to help the Bulls get better, including trading Oakley for Cartwright (Jordan was angry about that), drafting Pippen (an unknown) and Grant, hiring Phil Jackson, trading Perdue for Rodman, and drafting Kukoc. All moves that helped the Bulls win titles. But the Kukoc move especially irritated Pippen and Jordan because Kukoc is a white guy and he was being paid more than Pippen. They are both anti-white bigots. No matter how much they (and sycophant fans such as yourself) hated him, Krause was still the guy that built those championship teams.

HOF is not just about the NBA. Kukoc deserves to be in the HOF for his European career. He was the best player on the whole continent.

Well this aged well! Well done Kukoc!

He'll be soon! Cro G.O.A.T.

@nenodukic1193

4 жыл бұрын

@@aldomoon3746 Well, first of all I watched them both live 4 many games. Dražen died when he was on the top and I suppose he'd have been best ever cro basketball player. Unfortunately, we'll never know. Although Dražen played 4 my team (Cibona Zagreb); yes, I think Toni was better. But it is basicly incomparably. Love them both.

International success alone get players in hall of fame. Oscar Schmidt never went to nba and he is in hall of fame. Toni Kukoc had much more success than Oscar. I think one of the reason why he is not in HOF is because of narrative. MJ playing with 2 hall of famer is not same as he playing with 3 in that three peat for his GOAT case. He is by far best player ever but I wouldnt be surprised if that is one of the reason holding Toni back. Btw Toni was not bad at defense as you keep saying, he was ok defender, he was just not on pair with those 3 defensive juggernauts. If He was allowed to show his true potential and had more freedom you would have seen that he is much better offensive player than Pippen. He had advantage over him in every single aspect of the game except athleticism. Talking of offensive part of the game ofc At that time in any other nba team he could have been the main player and easily get 20+points and 6-7 assists

His shooting motion is so smooth

Can you do a video about Penny Hardaway please? Touching on why he is not in the HOF yet and what he can still do to get inducted.

just because of his european career he should be in the HOF its not the NBA HOF its the basketball HOF

Kukoc would be better in today’s NBA.

I am sorry but most of these topics have nothing with HoF. HoF is BASKETBALL, not NBA HoF. There are so many Europeans in it, like Sabonis, Galis, Dalipagić, Čosić and others. One more thing - weak ??? Bad defense??? Guy was 6th Man of the Year and a very skilled player. Yao Ming is a HoF only because of the influence he brought to China by playing in the NBA. Toni definitively deserves to be a HoF.

He’s in the HOF now

I feel they're excluding Toni Kukoc just to take a stab at Jerry Kruase or to make Jordan's 6 NBA title run look more legendary by showing he didn't have much Hall of Fame help (only Pippen and Rodman). Whatever the reasons, the Bulls & NBA are doing such a disservice and disrespect to such a legendary player on both sides of the Atlantic... with the retirement of his Bulls jersey (7), and Basketball Hall of Fame induction way overdue.

3× NBA champion (1996-1998) NBA Sixth Man of the Year (1996) NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1994) FIBA World Championship MVP (1990) FIBA EuroBasket MVP (1991) FIBA's 50 Greatest Players (1991) 5× Euroscar Player of the Year (1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1998) 4× Mister Europa Player of the Year (1990-1992, 1996) 3× EuroLeague champion (1989-1991) 3× EuroLeague Final Four MVP (1990, 1991, 1993) EuroLeague Finals Top Scorer (1990) FIBA European Selection (1991) 50 Greatest EuroLeague Contributors (2008) Italian League champion (1992) Italian Cup winner (1993) 4× Yugoslav League champion (1988-1991) 2× Yugoslav Cup winner (1990, 1991) 3× Croatian Sportsman of the Year (1989-1991) Franjo Bučar State Award for Sport (1992) Tony carear

@AMHoops

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I also read his Wikipedia. As I said, his NBA career is not HOF worthy, his EU career is.

@mategradac199

4 жыл бұрын

@@AMHoops yes ... his Europe carear . Divac also made in Hof because of international carear.

@xxxxxJAYMILLZxxxxxxx

4 жыл бұрын

A.M. Hoops it’s the Naismith basketball hall of fame not the nba hall of fame

@AMHoops

4 жыл бұрын

xxxxxJAYMILLZxxxxxxx Did I say NBA Hall of Fame?????

Good video but a minor error was mentioned. The host said that Longley's career high in games was 72 in 2000. That was actually his second most games he ever played in a season. He played 76 games in 1994 but that was between both the Suns and the Bulls.

@michaelcannon4830

4 жыл бұрын

Wrong video sir

@garrettcraig7182

4 жыл бұрын

thanks for the heads up

Kukoc deserves to be in the HOF for his European resumee and especially because players of similar talent are there already. I followed closely basketball in those years and can say Kukoc seemed a prodigy in Europe but in Chicago, despite flashes of pure talent and clutch moments, he never fully convinced. He became a (minor) star because he played in the most famous team ever.

Haha! "A small town called Split, Croatia" ... the second largest city of the country. They do have a different idea of size across the pond :)

@amradzinovic4086

4 жыл бұрын

Koen Van Laer No,they're just ignorant.

So Kukoc was the original Porzingis and Porzingis was the original AM Hoops.

@ceegun

3 жыл бұрын

Kukoč is something beetween Durant and Porzingis

Who's here after he is annouce on the Hall Of Fame Congrats Underappreciated Kokuc

Same as Ginobili, they accepted to play a secondary role in both the Bulls and Spurs, respectively. The difference was that Manu had in Duncan and Pop a different leadership to deal with, so he got his way and became on of the big three. Kukoc had Jordan and a more obedient behaviour.

Definitwly deserves to in HF! Without him, Bulls wouldn't win all those rings. Ge made impact and some super important winner shots. And to be best scorer and assit behind Jordan and Pippen? Enough said righf there

@AMHoops

4 жыл бұрын

Disagree but thanks for watching and commenting!!

"he is from a small town Split" 😎

@stevenhardaway1644

4 жыл бұрын

Frende moj, za njih i je mali grad.

@pixbj1

4 жыл бұрын

jel je reko da nije?mali je I za nas naspram zga.

@stevenhardaway1644

4 жыл бұрын

@@pixbj1 ok ok..nije napisao ni jedno ni drugo ali se moze zakljuciti da misli da Split nije mali grad. Uf, dobro je.

Now he is hall of famer finally ❤️

He is now 😎!

Dude as a Croatian i can tell you have no clue what you are talkin about in 80% of the video. If you want to make a video about someone than do your homework first. Kukoc is from my city of Split and i fanatically watched this mans entire career. Kakav lik i video #facepalm

@HIMCULES

4 жыл бұрын

This guy wasn't even born then. I bet he's never seen Kukoc dunk from the foul line. In my opinion, Kukoc is not in the Hall of fame, because of envy. He dropped too many threes on that USA team!!

@panther7681

4 жыл бұрын

And maybe they couldn't have Toni more elaborated than their godly one.

@HIMCULES

4 жыл бұрын

@@panther7681 Definitely not, as basketball is also big business.

Had MJ given "the green light" (a simple acknowledgement of Toni's contribution would be enough. 12 points of Kerr, a fantastic human being, vs. Utah were given such hype, while Toni's 21 weren't even mentioned....) for Toni to be a Hall of Famer, Toni would have already been that. That's what it's all about. Rarely has such unjustice been done to anybody as it's been with the portrayal of Toni in the Last Dance. More space was given to Carmen Electra than Toni! But, that's America and I didn't expect anyrhing else. Toni is the most talented European player of all time, with only Luka Dončić as a legimtimate comparison. Toni had more talent and was more complete than european HOFAMERS Divac, Marculionis, Radja (who I love) and Nowitzki, put together.

@samml3601

4 жыл бұрын

You forgot about Sabonis, let me tell you, Arvydas played all his Carrer injuried and still a beast. Remember at age 22 had an achiles injury...

IT was different times for players from Europe...Yugoslavian league was second strongest basketball league after NBA but players then outside US were view as soft and were mostly benched and were giving little chance ...now times are different...like when Drazen Petrovic who was brutal scorer , won anything in Europe and with Yugoslavia came to NBA he was giving 2-3 minutes a game even he could score 30 points no problem to any team with great efficiency ...now totaly different times...guys that won nothing in europe and averaging 2 points in europe come to NBA and are giving like 25 minutes per game instantly

It’s a shame for the NBA that Kukoc is not a Hall of Famer.

Drazen Petrovic was all nba 3rd team and wasnt an all star 🤷‍♂️

@nicmagtaan1132

4 жыл бұрын

that sucked

Europeans soft?? LOL I'd like to see any of American 90's NBA players play inside the burning boilers of Croatian, Serbian, Turkish or Greek basketballl halls. Not to mention football (soccer in your yankee lingo), There's nothing soft about European sports, mind you, our rugby players would flatten any of your american football teams like a steamroller.

@egokedrules7822

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao soccer a soft ass sport

@LegitPlays777

4 жыл бұрын

Idk about that rugby and football thing though....

@jasonfedeli

4 жыл бұрын

Yea no way is playing in the balkans a fun experience

@thegentlemen9389

3 жыл бұрын

You gotta understand hell have of us played on courts filled with glass with gun shots going off different but yea Euro players are tough Sabonis proved that years before Toni

Kukoc should be in based on his international career. What validates that is his championship rings as well as winning 6th man of the year on a championship team.

@bandana3570

4 жыл бұрын

and some buzzer beaters (vs Knicks without Scottie and vs. Indiana for example) Phil Jackson knew who needs the ball in those moments

Kukoc was ahead of his time, played for a stacked team where he had to come off of the bench, and was never really used correctly. He was a 6'11 point forward with mad passing skills, sweet handles, a nice shot, and various different moves. He could average 20/7/7 easily if he was the main guy on a team that knew how to use him. If played in today's league he'd be a bonafide superstar. Krause was right to covet this guy; it's just a shame that no one seemed to know how to use him. He needed the ball in his hands as a point forward.