Best stuff for a creator is things they can afford to pay for with the next few project while paying bills. But factor in the speed of how fast you can do that

Perfect for a small factor build. Have mine in a itx h210 case since launch.

@squirrelsinjacket1804

11 ай бұрын

Was thinking the same.. I'm waiting for the 5090 and hopefully a similar water cooled version for a new ITX build.

Does the card as the same lifetime as normal cooling ? Like the pump, the liquid can run for 4/5 years without maintenance ?

@TheWasher18

11 ай бұрын

Don't know about msi, but my nzxt watercooler has been running non-stop for 4.3 years without me so much as adding new thermal paste onto that old OCd i5 I got under it.

I have one of these and its great. I had real struggles fitting a "standard" 3-slot card in my case since I have a huge air cooler on my 3970X CPU. I also got tired of the noise of air-cooled GPUs like a jet engine under my desk.

Holy moly dude I love your content but you gotta re-test the cards with the same driver, if you no longer have the cards, roll back to that driver, or comparisons in your charts lose credibility.

crazy setup! what kind of power supply you have installed to power those 3 4090s!!

I like the idea of a GPU with an aio in the box. Seems to only make sense with how common liquid cooling the CPU is. Only reason I can never pull the trigger on them is unlike with my CPU's aio, it's the ability to just replace the aio without touching the GPU that I can't settle on. So dispite the minimal price difference, I went with the air cooled version.

I just got this video card and put it into the same Asus Pro WS W790E-SAGE SE. It's a great combo.

Lets not forget reliability and longevity. 3d Artists such as myself can have these cards rendering at 100% load for 12 or more hours. Heat kills GPU's. I have 3x older EVGA (rest in peace) liquid cooled 980ti's and these have been going strong for roughly 10 years. They always run cool and quiet (almost never go over 50deg Celsius) If you do heavy 3d rendering seriously consider something like this. Forego a couple extra percentage points in performance for a much cooler unit which will last longer in the end.

The Gigabyte one has the perfect pipe location on the card, why Suprim put the pipe on the side I'll never know. People will be like "Oh it's fine" and then they'll notice an issue when they try to put the side panel back onto the case.

I completely agree that you should be retesting for the latest drivers or you need to manually install the same older 4090 driver.

I don't agree with your comparing a6k and 49. 48VRAM is only way to complete big task by GPU. In other hand most time CPU rendering wins in quality and shader features. Where GPU rend. features are still under development. Do you agree?

I’m almost positive that the Newegg screen you showed for the air cooled SUPRIM is for the MSI SUPRIM (NON X). I know there isn’t much difference between the SUPRIM X and Non x variant, but wanted to point this out.

Great info, thanks again. Great card for blender in a dual config due to its small profile on the Proart MB.

hi. It may be installed incorrectly, check the location of the pump and how the degradation of the AOI occurs. The radiator must be at a higher level than the pump

MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid is one of my option, the other is the new ROG Strix LC GeForce RTX™ 4090 24GB GDDR6X

I have the Suprim X without (non-Liquid) it's super quiet, has great performance and I don't need extra space for the radiator. I would not like to have the Liquid version and would rather keep more space in the case for extra fans.

Got this card when it came out, its a beast I LOVE IT!

@umbreonmax_hd3209

9 күн бұрын

Did you mount the Radiator to the front or the top of the case?

@pem3480

9 күн бұрын

@@umbreonmax_hd3209 I have a corsair 1000D, this card fit nice in the back.

Alò, shouldn't be pump installed under upper radiator profile in order to avoid air in it and how do you manage airflow ?

I never saw this type of comparaison and I NEVER WANT SO SEE ANOTHER AGAIN OMG IT'S SO PERFECT THESE GRAPHICS ARE SO COMPREHENSIBLE

Damn, FOMO is strong with this one! x] (Should be more than happy with what I got & my semi-upgraded rig is doing well.)

Can it be used as EGPU

MSI has issues with their AIO coolers, does that include the AIO attached to this GPU? The issues are the degradation of the seal on the cold plate breaking down and clogging the microfins and the liquid in the AIO.

@drxpsaucx4157

Жыл бұрын

That problem was solved over a year ago. And that hasn't been reported on Aio's or gpus

@minemine7056

Жыл бұрын

@@drxpsaucx4157 actually what was resolved, finally, was the RMA for defective units for the North America market only. Internationally the issue is still ongoing . Greg Salazar has posted several videos documenting MSI's reluctance to handle the problem.

@The_Casual_Nerd

Жыл бұрын

Wasn’t that issue exclusive to the MAG aio with the pump built into the radiator? I had one replaced under warranty and it’s been great. I didn’t think it affected any gpu coolers

@minemine7056

Жыл бұрын

@@The_Casual_Nerd from the videos it was the pump attached directly to the CPU. Greg just posted a video today on an AIO from a viewers iBuyPower pre-built. 120 unit not sure of manufacturer but it was very badly clogged.

They make 4090s with slimer coolers which are the best option for creators because you cant fit too many radiators in a case because you shouldnt mount at the bottom

@Tanzbd123

Жыл бұрын

There are cases where you can mount 3 of these, like Thermaltake tower 900. As big as a washing machine 😅

@MyFamilyGmail

Жыл бұрын

As a noob PC builder, I looked this up - because I actually need PCIE slots free for other cards. But I couldn't find any. Can you please name the 4090's that have "slim coolers"?

@redclaw72666

Жыл бұрын

I beg to differ lol I have 2 rads a 240 at top and a 360 at the front 💀 and that's in a fractal design meshify c 1st gen and that's with 11 fans can't wait to get a msi 4090 liquid x

@yosixxx

Жыл бұрын

@@redclaw72666 If you need more than 1 gpup you need a case that can fit 3 rads

@yosixxx

Жыл бұрын

@@MyFamilyGmail Look up “PNY GeForce RTX 4090 24GB VERTO™ Triple Fan DLSS 3.” Theres two versions, make sure you dont pick the thicker model. The thinner one has no RGB.

I know it says it needs four individual pcei connections but right now I have it daisy chained for two. How bad is that?

coil wine? I don t like hotspot 80c , if you make it silent i think will trottle

I disagree with you on this one. Liquid cooled GPU are also better for gamers also! Less heat and noise inside the case. More flexibility with over locking Price difference is very little!

@MM-hl1to

5 ай бұрын

Let them believe air cooling is better. More liquid cooled GPU for us!

please test the difference between the same make and model 4090, i know with cpus they become more luck dependant on the silicon lottery the bigger they become. So im curious what the lottery stats are on identical 4090s

Also if you have a Hyte Y60 case, it is basically the only 4090 card you can fit in.

I think water cooling is a gimmick, it does not cool better than air, it's just an alternate way to cool. And you got to worry about a water pump failing, the only good thing is that it has a low profile and looks neater, that's about it. As an example I have an air cooled MSI 4090 gaming trio x that has no vapor chamber, and it stays cool at 27c at idle and 34c while gaming. I don't know how cooler I would want it. Can water cooling get those numbers?

@redclaw72666

3 ай бұрын

That's bs lmao not a single 4090 in KZread can't go at that temp 💀

@davehenderson6896

3 ай бұрын

@@redclaw72666 I'm not lying dude, I play in windowed mode though.

Most GPU product with clastic fans collings system survive 8 years. How is with this AIO lifetime?

Please make a config with 2 Suprim X liquid, Proart Z790, 128GB, Intel i9 13900K, aio cooler, Thermaltake CTE C750 air case.

Please suggest CPU 13700 or 13700K (price almost same in India ) i will not overclock and want to buy Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX (Wi-Fi) Motherboard

There are several factors to account for when looking at various models of graphics card. Do bear in mind that when graphics cards have a rated power draw, this is not exclusive to just the GPU alone, but also accounts for VRAM, any additional RGB lighting, the cooling fans, as well as any pumps and additional accessories connected to it. Lower thermals can allow a GPU to clock higher, though this will differ between GPU models and tiers. The lower end GPUs will likely have fewer VRMs and MOSFETs, which may be of lower quality compared to the higher end models. This would in turn allow higher end models to have cleaner power delivery with greater efficiency, thus allowing the GPU to run cooler at the same power draw or providing higher clock speeds at the same power draw. Another thing to account for is the silicon lottery, as no 2 GPUs will perform exactly the same. For those who are not aware, the SUPRIM LIQUID X tends to have worse VRAM temperatures compared to a lot of the air cooled cards on the market, as the AiO cooling pump does not have direct cooling on the GPU (The VRAM shares a cooling plate with the GPU coldplate), which in turn does means that the VRAM may be drawing more power than ideal, which in turn reduces amount of power available for the GPU directly. Unfortunately there isn't a simple answer on whether something is good/better in such instances, since most RTX 4090s or other tiers of GPU will perform there or thereabouts.

@intrepidomartv236

Жыл бұрын

Those vrams temps are because the first batch had less thermal pads on the vram, there is a video when they de-assemble it and add better quality thermal pads. Newer suprim liquid xs don’t have that problem anymore

Whats the best bang for you buck (most RAM) specifically for AI.

@tylerblack7371

Жыл бұрын

4060ti 16 gb version coming in July. 500 bucks for a card intended for 1080p but it has the 40 series tensor cores and the cheapest vram per dollar. Unless you can get a used 3090 for 750 which has older tensor cores

Are they not able to be on the same driver?

What about lumion and d5 performance or unreal engine.

I am going to say worth it as it looks like it is the only 4090 that will fit my case. A few questions though: 1:) My msi motherboard talks about something called a bolster to protect the pcie slot on the gpu. Is this included? If not is it necessary? 2:) I see that you could use different fans for the radiator, which is 240mm, or 2x120mm fans. Do you have to connect them to the Y splitter coming out of the GPU, or could you chose to use ICue to manage the fans. (I love corsair and icue if they make it I will buy it don't care about price difference as long as performance is at minimum equal) 3:) Great view of the card btw, I have been trying to find pictures of the power port as I want to buy a 90 degree adapter from cable mod and I wasn't sure if the clip was on top or the bottom. By the view you provided It looks like the clip is on the "top" or back plate side of the GPU. Did I see that right? (at 1:59 of the video. I want the cable to run from the bottom straight up into the adapter which is connected to the GPU if I wasn't clear)

fam why u dont test it for unreal

I have a question can I just throw in a 4090 into a build that already has a 3090Ti? or should I uninstall the old drivers with DDU first?

@tylerblack7371

Жыл бұрын

From going from a 1070ti to a 3090, you should be safe to go to a 4090 and then do a clean driver instillation. Won't hurt to to ddu but it's probably unecessary

@rmorenberg

Жыл бұрын

@@tylerblack7371 thanks

the coil whine is quite loud with mine

When can we expect 4060/4060ti reviews?

I am confused. There is a MSI Suprim Liquid X , a MSI Suprim X Liquid, and a MSI Suprim Liquid. What is the bloody difference xD

Make a video rog ryujin iii 360 nobody is making on it

This card is decent but best 4090 I have owned to date is the PNY xlr8 4090 runs fast,cool and quiet

why don't u test 3ds Max, & Maya...?????

Yes it is the only problem one is not enough 😢

i mean this is 1750 at best buy, and the gigabyte one is 1700, so i feel its worth a extra 50

In US this things are super cheap, in EU this GPU costs $2400...

@TheAtomoh

3 ай бұрын

I just bought this GPU for 1900€, which is still too much for a GPU, but nowhere near 2200€.

The GIGABYTE AERO card does so well it is also in the 4090's now and it looks so beautiful

Is there really a such thing as a lower end 4090???

@blind9376

Жыл бұрын

its all relative, the GPU die is always the same but other things matter to draw the best out of that die. see previous comment to see the video analyzing 35 4090's

It was pretty interesting when I bought my Suprim Liquid X, it was about US $100 cheaper than the base Suprim X.

@intrepidomartv236

Жыл бұрын

is cheaper than tuf gaming and strix 4090s, seems people just dont buy them

I'm able to get over 3GHz with my Suprim Liquid X.

Really? Still no review for the 4060 ti? If its bad or a 0% gain, just say it. You thrashed the 7900 xt so why not do it with this one?

You have the graphics card situated higher than the radiator which leads to the air bubble on the GPU side. This is the worst possible configuration for water cooling.

@theTechNotice

Жыл бұрын

No I havent :)

I see no advantage in going with this card, on the contrary, I have space for a "bigger" card but do not have space for another rad. Also, there are quite a few cards with higher power limits. It is among the 6/8 better cards, which isn't an issue with 4090s, but that radiator makes it bigger, for me, as it does all water cooled cards.

I would probably undervolt the card and just have the extra silence. I doubt you will see more than a 1-2% performance increase but will be sacrificing much more heat dumping into your office

@iamamish

Жыл бұрын

If you're only getting an extra 1 - 2% performance increase, then you shouldn't be generating much additional heat. Regardless of what kind of cooling mechanism you use, that heat is going to be dumped into your office. I know at some points on the curve, it requires a LOT of extra energy to generate marginal performance gains, but I don't think that's the case here.

@rileyhance318

Жыл бұрын

@@iamamish the stock power draw and boost clocks is already very close to peak efficiency on many cards. its more worth undervolting at stock clocks than it is trying to bring clockspeed up

@iamamish

Жыл бұрын

@@rileyhance318 My bad - I misread your original post. You're suggesting the opposite of what I originally thought - you're saying underclock it to substantially reduce heat, but not reduce much performance. Good point.

@davehenderson6896

6 ай бұрын

With my card the fans don't even turn on until the temp reaches 50c, which it will never because my card stays cool at 34c while gaming. I don't know about doing professional work though.

@rileyhance318

6 ай бұрын

@@davehenderson6896 air and watercoolers both heat soak so unless your only gaming for 2 min at a time the fans would eventually have to spin up. most cards undervolted only need to run the fans at 35-40% speed which is basically not audible once the side panel is closed and you are more than 2ft away

I have two , very quiet ans chill .

@John-lt8wv

Жыл бұрын

any coil whine? pump noise?

@Halllbert

Жыл бұрын

@@John-lt8wv nope

@John-lt8wv

Жыл бұрын

@@Halllbert no coil whine? You're so lucky

@tigros999

10 ай бұрын

@@John-lt8wv go digital, SPDIF sure glad i did that!

How do you have 164k subscribers and 455 likes for a one month old video?

ASUS ROG MATRIX 4090 Enters chat

Last week, my local PC shop recommended the "Suprim Liquid X" as a solution to free up PCIE slots I needed in my build. I nodded along, not knowing much about "AIO" or "Liquid Cooling". Later I looked it up and realized...the cooling solution is so niche, there's big implications if it goes wrong - compared to air cooling... You can't just replace the fans/paste - you'd have to convert the card into a "brick" and implement liquid cooling within the entire case. For such an expensive and risk-laden product, I think the warranty should be greater than three years. Gamers maybe constantly changing their hardware every couple of years - but there's "starving artists" who build their workstations once a decade (hey JayzTwoCents, I still run the MSI-Z97-X-Power to this day - and you should see the crazy things I do with it LMAO!). All that said, the point about freeing up PCIE slots is legitimate. And this noob also did some research on that. I came across these things called "PCIE Riser Cables". A starving artist would probably be wiser getting a fan-cooled GPU and a spacious computer-case. Then ask his local computer store to use riser cables to "upright mount" the GPU off to the side. That would free up the PCIE slots for necessary cards - without gambling on risky AIO-cooled GPU's.

@ChunkyLover69420

Жыл бұрын

You wouldnt need to water cool the whole pc , could still air cool cpu. installing a pump to just use for the gpu, its also not as hard as it initially appears to water cool. However, agree air cooling is generally the way to go

@MyFamilyGmail

Жыл бұрын

@@ChunkyLover69420 How much would that run someone? Is it expensive for a quality GPU-only setup?

@donloder1

Жыл бұрын

What do you usually use the other pcie slot for?

@MyFamilyGmail

Жыл бұрын

The main things are network and capture cards. And I've long wanted to try a soundcard, since other music lovers claim it improved their listening experience. In terms of external alternatives... I researched ThunderBolt 4 and USB external alternatives. But I found those inputs had a technological ceiling on performance. For full performance in certain high-end scenarios, pcie cards were best.

Bullshitt the vrm’s alone get up to 70-85c its not that good!

Wow

Please,turn off the music,it disturbes a lot. Thank you for the info for 4090 👍

tate the goat

Tech Notice : the only 4090 that has a proper cooler due to its 450 Watt TDP and real world power consumption of 550 Watts :) !!!!

I only gave thumbs down because of too many ads before video. I do that on all videos. Tell youtube to cool out.

I am first

doa, questionable test mythology, unsubbed

Hybrid. Aorus has a true water cooled gpu.

lol $1,739! i can buy a whole macbook pro with that much $$$ haha!!!!!!

Mine had extreme coil whine and went back.....🥲