Yet again Jonny has got the jump on all the other car review channels. Guarantee you’ll see this on a KZread channel soon. Hands down best car review and unique vehicle channel on KZread 👍🏻🙂.

What I love about CarPervert is that it gives us a lot of the nitty gritty tech info, unlike some other KZreadr who just isn't a car enthusiast like us older enthusiasts from the days of carbys.

"Let's make things last a bit longer again" - hear hear!

@stamfordly6463

4 жыл бұрын

Royal Mail's been doing that for years, the van for my route was a 55 diesel Corsa until it finally fell apart last winter.

@unfurling3129

4 жыл бұрын

MTLABLA

@user-jt1jv8vl9r

4 жыл бұрын

@@stamfordly6463 Yes, lovely diesel. Even better an older car with higher emissions.

@briansalay-smith8604

4 жыл бұрын

Excellent coverage, it's time we had more commercial EVs I really hope this van is a success

@afberglund2764

4 жыл бұрын

It's here here not hear hear?

"Lets make things to last longer again, we used too" love that sentence,

I've been following the growth of the black cabs since their launch [in fact I can never get near a charger for my EV anymore because of them!] but it's pushing three years now and they are overdue for a battery upgrade. They really need another 20 to 25 miles on them to keep up with the progress everyone else is making - that's both for the taxi and the van.

They need to make a camper van version of this.

@brechtthebest

4 жыл бұрын

Better yet, offer a cheap version for those that want to convert it to campervan

@randommisshaps7

4 жыл бұрын

@@brechtthebest yes!

@DiscoFang

4 жыл бұрын

I would be will to bet that once you start to add weight of conversion or luggage that the range drops significantly.

@unfurling3129

4 жыл бұрын

@@DiscoFang Certainly so, but also certainly expected. We need lighter batteries.

@chriswebster3649

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that

Looks like the bastard love child of a Fiat Doblo and Ford Transit Connect, I like it a lot

@cogniktive1147

4 жыл бұрын

All hail the beautiful bastard

@craigo2656

3 жыл бұрын

Chinese communist company.

Black cab van, what a brilliant idea. I can see these being really successful.

@lotusgroup123

4 жыл бұрын

losslessification Black Cab - White Van 😉

@Br1anuk

4 жыл бұрын

Wait till you see the price!!!!

@laimonasrake8367

4 жыл бұрын

@@Br1anuk spot on, unfortunately

@reverendbluejeans1748

4 жыл бұрын

@@Br1anuk made in London

@WonkoTheSaneUK

4 жыл бұрын

@@reverendbluejeans1748 Not London. Coventry, as Jonny said repeatedly during the video.

Johnny.. this is a real issue.. I want an electric Van.. but look at the price. It makes no sense. The Nissan ENV 200 is only slightly more expensive than the diesel version at £20k. But all the other can makes are charging double or triple the price of a diesel... Why.. can someone like you do some investigation or even just ask them why they are so expensive.. the LDV electric Van is £60k. The diesel version is £17k. Renault master £65k and no rapid charger. Why?

@elliottslab

4 жыл бұрын

Start using worlds like aluminium and bonded composite price goes up, needs to be steel to be cheap

@curtinj98

4 жыл бұрын

@@elliottslab Add to that: Lots of copper. Electrical safety systems that have to cope with lethal levels of electricity. Bespoke software. Sensors. Lots and lots of sensors. Loads of microprocessors. Fibre optic cables. The warranty. Manufacturers know that they will be paying for at least one lot of new batteries. And so on

@elliottslab

4 жыл бұрын

curtinj98 well using higher voltage reduces amount of copper by a lot, and using more custom stuff instead of off the shelf stuff stuck together can reduce number of pcbs and things, lots of room to get the price down here

@curtinj98

4 жыл бұрын

@@elliottslab the extra copper is needed to get the HV power from the front of the car to the driven wheels. In this case to the back of the vehicle. With a conventional car/van the highest voltages rarely leave the engine bay. The copper is also used in the electric motors and charging systems. As for the other components, they will get cheaper over time. But the modern EV vehicle is still in its infancy. There are multiple standards, and none of them have gained a dominance that will allow costs to be driven down by scale. And the EV sector is still a small slice of the entire market. So each standard is a small slice of a small slice. Plus, manufacturers are desperate to be on the right side of legislation. They want something in place to show governments they are acting. They are in the "we must do something" mode. Costs will be addressed as standards standardise, and volumes increase.

@elliottslab

4 жыл бұрын

curtinj98 don’t think you under stood my point 400v will need more copper than 800v not talking about 12V systems in normal cars even normal ice cars are moving to higher voltages such as 48v,

LECV VN5. I can’t wait till these hit the city streets.

Brilliant review as ever Johnny! It's so exciting to see these in production, and I for one cannot wait to see these on our streets!

Can't wait to see a Campervan of it! 🥰

Bit of history for you Jonny, back in the mid to late 80’s we were running LDV Sherpas that were totally battery powered (lead acid obviously) the battery pack being underslung like the milk floats of that period. They could travel from the Rover assembly plant at Cowley to Theale nr Reading and back which was approx. 50+ miles on a regular basis with ease. So, some thirty odd years later, commercial EV range hasn’t drastically improved much, has it.

@acelectricalsecurity

4 жыл бұрын

Well said, where EV vehicles are concerned people tend to cherry pick the information.

@Mireaze

4 жыл бұрын

A proper ground up EV van, such as the Nissan eNV200 can do nearly 200 miles on a charge.

@RustOnWheels

4 жыл бұрын

The modern batteries are much easier to charge though ;)

Great piece Jonny. An EV with an ICE?. This is great, the technology and it’s built in Britain. Prices from 46.5k plus VAT, £500 a month 9 months initial payment. The load it can carry is 800KG, a Trafic, Transit or Transporter is average 1200KG, the blue van with the Tevo racking must be close to that weight. Not trying to be negative just pointing out how this will be looked at.

@Wookey.

4 жыл бұрын

@Spud Chuffington jones Only if you can't add up running costs, and/or don't care about fucking up the atmosphere and kid's lungs. What kind of 'idiot' would care about that shit?

@Wookey.

4 жыл бұрын

@Spud Chuffington jones I buy vans - I care about both those things (total running costs and emissions). Strange to admit in public that you are a sociopath and don't care at all about kids or the planet. I mean I understand people who say 'well I'd like to but I have to buy second hand and really can't afford it yet'. But people who go 'no, I don't give fuck about choking your kids, and ruining the world'. Well that's just weird. What sort of person would say that?

@acelectricalsecurity

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wookey. at the moment the running costs do appear to be cheaper. But that's only because there's no fuel duty, vat is only 5% and they weren't paying road tax that could have changed when road taxing got changed. The UK government aren't going to let that go forever as soon as enough people have them we will see how they will cash in. They could make people have a separate meter installed then get them to fill a form every year and Bill them, or simply, charge them about £2k a year but they will do something. When I first started driving diesel Vans in the early 90's it was less than half the cost of petrol now look at it there's an example. Also these vehicles couldn't exist without oil, then there's the impact of the mining for the materials, and some of the mines had children mining. We just have to accept no matter what we drive,and what may or may not come out of the back someone will be affected.

Great video, my dad drives a small Royal Mail van. I mentioned how Royal Mail keeps doing trials of EVs and never seems to invest in a sizeable fleet. His answer was they generally don't keep the vans very long for various cost cutting reasons. I was saying they're an ideal case use for EV vans and could really help the UK commercial EV industry. What you said about the materials and warranty being a reason for companies to buy and keep them longer will hopefully see RM show more confidence in this type of vehicle. My dad is a lil sceptical about himself owning one so such a move could prompt the workers to understand the positive reality.

@atifmanzoor63

2 жыл бұрын

You will have to put up se many charging stations everywhere and one hour to charge

Love it! Make them last, make them solid, make them well. Drift van? With that steering angle, heck yes! Johnny, awesome episode - thank you! Whilst watching this, my mind went straight to...... ......This would make an excellent base for a small campervan (camping car). I'd pick the Ultima as the base for it with one sliding door and have the option of a diesel as the ICE recharge unit, as well as both sets of charging plugs at the front. A larger, higher roofed, LWB version would be even better for this. Also, as the body panels are composite, side panels could be moulded for use for campers in-house and added on the production line with a bare interior shell, then sent to third party manufacturers for finishing, or for custom fitment by the company itself off the line (like what GM did with the GMC Motorhome in the 70's). Throw some solar panels on the roof, a small slimline air-conditioner, a side mounted awning as well as beefed up suspension and you're golden! Range extended EV campervan? Yes please!

As long as it's going to be Congestion Charge exempt it's on the shortlist - but it would be a deal-breaker if it wasn't. Also, the lease cost needs to be around £300/month to be competetive. We've been running eNV200s in central London for 5 years now. Smoothest vehicles I ever driven - but I haven't had the pleasure of any other EVs yet...

@MrFlyingguy

4 жыл бұрын

proper feedback from an ev user......appreciated.

@greengrubwoodentoysaustral8452

4 жыл бұрын

Good, practical comments James. Here in Australia when we transition our business's to EV's we wear 99% of the cost with no Govt support except for a very small discount on registration tax. Unfortunately we don't have any policies in place to promote EV's in any way (don't even have efficiency/ emissions standards for any vehicles) to assist in improving health and environmental outcomes. So kudo's to you and any other business who commit to the transition even if you wear initial higher $ costs. Use your eco-friendly delivery van within your marketing material. 👍

@javic1979

4 жыл бұрын

@@greengrubwoodentoysaustral8452 Australia's power grid is overstretched and can't support a influx of EV's. Sadly due to both red and green tape nothing will change any time soon. Old coal plants running above economical. old Gas staging plants running as base load. Diesel backup running as staging plants and backup against wind and solar. new wind and solar getting rushed through but isn't meeting increased demand. new mini gas plants hidden in new industrial estates to try and meet demand are increasing gas prices. we need nuclear (or more advanced reaction) , more hydro, new advanced coal that can run as flex fuel (burning rubbish) so many other smart ways to make power from wasted energy

@unfurling3129

4 жыл бұрын

@@javic1979 We also need clean coal, and plenty of it. Electricity needs to be cheap for business to be profitable. And remember, clean coal is clean. The only emissions are water vapour.

@user-jt1jv8vl9r

4 жыл бұрын

It's quite sunny in Australia no? Anyone think about capturing solar energy in some fashion? Australia's obsession with coal is hilarious. In the rest of the world it's the 21st Century, in Australia it's still the mid 20th Century.

"Sorry, I did a burp." Never change... :)

Another excellent straight to the point real world review, no flannel, all the information we need about a very interesting vehicle. Nice work Jonny!! We live in a throw away society and this sort of technology is the future, lets hope people start to think about what is not only best for them but best for our environment.

I love the range extender! You can create peak output with minimal resistance making it very efficient.

13:10 it’s Royal Mail - they are using the Taxi conversion currently. Interesting to see if they decide to use them (the van) after the trials.

@iainansell5930

4 жыл бұрын

unlikely at £46k a unit... they've had other EV vans on trial before and not gone with them.... Royal Mail also have widespread depots where they can charge cheaper Nissan EV vans..

@ollianddelphine

4 жыл бұрын

@@iainansell5930 It is not the short term cost, but the overall cost of the vehicle for say 8 to 10 years. Also probably no road tax.

@NickLiang

3 жыл бұрын

Most large firms will start using them, or some at least form of EV. There will be more pressure to become carbon free as possible, there will be incentives for fleets to go EV and they are much cheaper to maintain. So if you have a big enough fleet, the higher costs over time will provide similar or greater savings. Of course, this is heavily dependant on government incentives considering the market remains too small to be cost efficient. Once it kicks off with the big firms and prices come down, the SMEs will start to saturate the market.

Chademo and CCS. That's eye opening.

@jur4x

4 жыл бұрын

And 11KW AC with an option of 22

@Wookey.

4 жыл бұрын

Versatile is good. I guess there are places in the country where it's a very handy option.

@GrahamRead101

4 жыл бұрын

Agree - versaile. Most rapid chargers offer both, but not all (particularly some older ecotricity one's - if they're working at all)

Great video content - Something different and very interesting - Thanks Jonny for sharing!

The longer use ethic is so needed! I hate this disposable attitude of modern cars now - built to a price and designed to fail after a certain time. Really like these vans, great video Jonny!

Lovely review, Jonny. I cannot overstate how good you are at this mularkey. You're style is well balanced and accessable. Your videos are easy going and relaxing to watch but I always finish them, enthused and excited. Good god, be I'm a silly old guffer. Keep it up. ✌️

The VN5 could be a great conversion base for a mini camper van.

It's very amazing and beautiful as well! I'd really like to enjoy watching the summer sunset at a lake in a camper version of this!

Great reporting, fun and technical ....cheers

Why does no one remember that this is how modern locomotives have worked for decades? Engine drives a generator, which then feeds the traction motors. Edit: Jonny didn’t mention it, but with that generator only setup, they’d be missing a trick if they didn’t offer an inverter to provide AC power on the job site.

@WonkoTheSaneUK

4 жыл бұрын

I think there was an inverter on the bulkhead in the back of the blue van. The silver & blue box with the fan, next to the red bit. As to locomotives, the ex-District Line diesel-electric converted trains discussed at FCL 2019 have finally arrived in N Wales this month, to be used on the Wrexham - Bidston, and Chester - Crewe lines.

@acelectricalsecurity

4 жыл бұрын

Because EV's are new and shinny and pushing technology forward. How could this system have existed before, next you will be saying something really crazy like the world is round 😂😂👍

Love to see these in Melbourne Australia now that ford and Holden no longer build cars in Australia(taxis here used them)

@davenz000

4 жыл бұрын

The way Aussie clapped out taxis are, you'd need to wait 15 years for the London taxis to be shipped over and even then it would improve the standard. Take an Uber.

Cracking and informative watch Jonny. Nice one, and like the Taxi, a game changer. Nice steelies too. Almost regal. Keep them coming bud.

I might not have been able to say this before your videos, for obvious reasons, became so popular, but, I want to be a Pervert, too! Where to begin? First of all, your videos just keep getting better and better... more and more interesting... more and more relevant to a wider audience, so well done for that. - I now use motorbikes for 95% of my travel. - Unless a 4-wheeler is truly exceptional, I'm interested only in practicle, utilitarian cars and vans. This kind of thing, and praticularly this one, therefore, I think is a fantastic leap forward. There are too many positive points about the vehicle, as I see it, to wax lyrical about them all, much as I am tempted. With a warranty/service intervals like that, I can see people buying these 2nd-hand with, perhaps, 100,000 miles already on them, and converting them, as is popular now, into 'home-made' camper vans or live-in vans... particularly if they go on sale in the US where there is space to roam. Until you mentioned the price, and I can understand why it is (seemingly exceedingly) high, I could see regular folks getting one as a utilitarian private vehicle.... (perhaps that other medium-sized Renault you showed might fit that) Very surprised to hear that this company and Volvo are owned by a Chinese company, but that production of this vehicle takes place in the Midlands in the UK - where I grew up. Good one, Pervert!

Crew cab with 2nd row of seats would be good.

Basic hybrid principle of how diesel electric locomotives have worked for 100 years.

Looks great! We need these for London. A nice departure from the usual van offerings. Great video!

Thank you Jonny!!! Just watched Fully Charged vid of Rivian's UPS van too. Fun to learn about these electric and hybrid vans.

i wonder what the range is when loaded to max weight

@gtp_vexd3507

4 жыл бұрын

greg nicholls surely it’s already at max weight when two big lads get in with their morning bacon cob. It’s a 3 ton van. Empty.

@bigbadjohn10

4 жыл бұрын

GTP_ VEXD No the weight was GROSS, that is all up including load.

@benverdel3073

4 жыл бұрын

Fossile fuel cars don't really have a range as the "recharge" time is 10 minutes (between exit and reentry of the motorway)

The range they quote is for an empty van, no one runs an empty van, whats the range with a 500kg load on board?

@acelectricalsecurity

4 жыл бұрын

They will never tell you that, or how much the range will be affected when the temperature drops

@themadplotter

4 жыл бұрын

bullshit lots of people have an empty van for more than 50% of the time, also weight doesn't effect range as much as temp or onboard electrics.

@acelectricalsecurity

4 жыл бұрын

@@themadplotter why buy a van, to carry things, I am in the building trade, every van I have ever seen on site is carrying a load, in my van I carry about 200kg everyday, that's power tools, hand tools, tool chest, everyday essentials and racking. Before I switched Vans I ran it with nothing in, I was getting 42 mpg, afterwards with all my kit in I get 38mpg So don't say weight isn't an issue because it is, as well as all the other factors..

@Wookey.

4 жыл бұрын

@@acelectricalsecurity As you just pointed out 'up to 10%' is the difference from empty to loaded. My experience is more like 4% than 10% (Peugeot expert mk1) but then I am rarely anywhere near the payload limit. An EV will suffer reduced range from extra mass more than a diesel in hilly areas, and probably more overall (because the engine is so much more efficient, the load difference is a higher percentage of the available energy - same story with trailers). So that 60 miles could easily be 50 miles when full. Still this is a nice machine if going all-electric is not convenient. And the Ali+composite means it should last pretty-much forever.

@acelectricalsecurity

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wookey. I have a Renault traffic, it's a twin turbo version and if you believe the manufacturer I should get 48 mpg no chance no matter how I drive it. The other thing with ev vehicles is the battery your looking at around 8 years, or if it's like my Milwaukee battery 16 months before that failed. At the moment it's too much of a risk for me. Everyone is different though 👍

These videos are of such high quality! what a gem of a channel!

@TheLateBrakeShow

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Really impressed with this hopefully the others will up there game.

The only surprise is that it wasn’t thought of earlier. The FX3, the spiritual ancestor of the modern black cab was produced as a van version for London newspaper deliveries.

@DiscoFang

4 жыл бұрын

They were thought of but the reality is that once they get any weight in them the range plummets.

Coming soon, the lekky Sherpa, and Commer vans !

@scotty197878

4 жыл бұрын

Body swap a Commer on that floorpan, take my money!!

@davidpiper3652

4 жыл бұрын

I could so take a Sherpa and convert it to electric. I am funny like that.

@888johnmac

4 жыл бұрын

ooh yes a lekky Sherpa / Commer ... but must have the sliding front doors

@miketucker7466

4 жыл бұрын

888johnmac best AC ever

@adamwort7160

4 жыл бұрын

@@888johnmac ive got a 68 mk1 swb transit with sliding doors, and im rebuilding as turbo diesel auto, but flat front!!!

loved the video - thank you :) Hope to see more coverage of EV and their price comparisons Johny :) Thank you

Great video, love seeing stuff like this!

Let’s hope there is a future option to delete the engine and replace with more batteries.

@simonyapp

4 жыл бұрын

I keep asking this, would like to know the weight of fuel tank, engine and generator if removed and more batteries added? I recon you would only get anther 35 ish KWh in so max range being 110 miles.

@SquareoftheyearFM

4 жыл бұрын

Simon Yapp that would suit a lot of trades. Most work in very specific areas. Obviously useless for long range couriers but realistically they drive bigger stuff. I do 150-200 miles a day easily in my eGolf with a top up (not full charge) while I get food/coffee

@davidholden2658

4 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly, do a full EV version with double the battery capacity.

@adamlytle2615

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, to me this would be a no brainer option. Even just to offer it without the ice components and not adding any additional battery -- fleet operators should have the data on how many miles their vehicles do in a day. They'd be able to determine how many pure EVs and how many range-extended vehicles would make sense for their own fleet.

@benverdel3073

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Also the ChaDeMo option is from the past. New vehicles on Japan are now fitted with type2/CCS. Just wondering how long it takes for new buyers to regret their buy of a gas-gobbler.

Order it in black Paint side to look like windows Place orange TAXI lite on top Down the bus / Taxi lane you go😂😂😂

@mowcius

4 жыл бұрын

Shame that the lane cameras pick up your numberplate rather than the appearance of your vehicle!

@michaelwalker1145

4 жыл бұрын

@@mowcius let front/rear plate fall off due to speed bumps.😂😂😂

@tobyinspain

4 жыл бұрын

I thought you heading toward Eco FakeTaxi for a moment

@jur4x

4 жыл бұрын

@@mowcius also not all bus lanes are available for taxis. In some of them taxis are not allowed.

@bernardfender5147

4 жыл бұрын

@@tobyinspain don't know what you mean, explain..🙈🙉🙊

Nice to see we still make *Something* in this country.

Jonny - nice to see you again. Not with "him" anymore - that's fine, there's plenty of room for two in the EV news world. I've always liked your style and content, so here goes again. BTW, rumor has it you broke away when you found out Robert was British. True or not, it's what I've been telling folks who've asked (zero thus far). This van is a TOTAL JUMP START - way ahead of everyone else. Stunning. I don't think they can make enough, they are that GOOD.

Jonny. The blue one looks like it was kitted out for British Gas, maybe lost out to the Vauxhall?

This is a bit of a game changer. Also, that's twice you've beaten fullycharged with EV content lately. 👍

@user-jt1jv8vl9r

4 жыл бұрын

A full ev with 300 miles and 150-250kwh charging would be a game changer. This is merely a small step and already looks like dated tech. If only Tesla made a delivery van.

@leonkernan

4 жыл бұрын

Who’s that? Oh right, that channel I haven’t seen since I unsubscribed from it

@Chobaca

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know the story there. Was he fired or did he quit? Was there a fight?

@DDLovett

4 жыл бұрын

@@Chobaca they are still friends. But Jonny wants to review all vehicles including petrol and diesel but Robert wants purely ev and renewables content. Hence going back to his own channel.

@davidholden2658

4 жыл бұрын

@@Chobaca I think it's because he still wants to cover ICE cars as well as EVs whereas FullyCharged is a pure EV channel. Not sure if hew 'fired' as such or whether it was by mutual agreement.

Enjoyed that very much Jonny,. So sorry that you left Fully Charge, but your shows are very informative. Well done.

Great to see the unique style and character of the black cab being applied to a van. Maybe this will start a trend with NY cabs doing the same.

@WonkoTheSaneUK

4 жыл бұрын

I thought most NYC cabs were Toyota Prius these days?

did they put any effort into security, such as chocolate locks and doors that can be folded over at the corner? Any manufacturer that makes these things thief proof are onto a winner imo

@acelectricalsecurity

4 жыл бұрын

Good comment, but people don't want security in Vans, they want an iPad stuck on the dash board, that's far more useful than trying to protect thousands of pounds worth of tools.

@simonelliott7570

4 жыл бұрын

@@acelectricalsecurity every tradesmen I know wants better security on there van.

@acelectricalsecurity

4 жыл бұрын

@@simonelliott7570 your not wrong there

When will they let Lotus play with one? Your world record might be in jeopardy!

They have done a fantastic job of that. Agree totally about keeping stuff longer too.

I'm far more excited than I should be over the way the blue one is served out in the back. I have massive storage envy.

May I have it with a pop top and fitted out as a campervan, please?

It looks like a Ford Courier rear ended a Fiat Doblo that just rear ended a Wolseley

@davenz000

4 жыл бұрын

Still less fugly than a Rolls Royce Cullinan.,

very interesting van. look forward to seeing these around and even possibly a drive in one

This is what we need to see as an alternative taxi as the sliding doors are more sensible in narrow roads and a bigger boot space for luggage added together with the extra seat in the front this would be the game changer the taxi trade needs (there is a taxi trade outside of London). Make them and they will sell....guaranteed!

I think they should skip the ICE motor and fit more batterys. Then will be perfect. 👍

@willdarling1

4 жыл бұрын

"range extender" = "ICE industry extender / pacifier"

@luisfernandes4145

4 жыл бұрын

@@willdarling1 100% correct!

@iainansell5930

4 жыл бұрын

not really, if your an emergency callout plumber,say, you can't tell the customer to stick his thumb in the water leak until you charge the van for 4 hours before you can attend...

@luisfernandes4145

4 жыл бұрын

@@iainansell5930 it can have fast charge. Besides, there are master valves, aren't there? You don't stick a finger in a leak, do you? 🤣

@garyfromlondon

4 жыл бұрын

@@iainansell5930 And why would you not already have the car charged. If you are a reasonably local call out, I would assume, lots of relativily short journeys. Which would be well within the capability of a say 300 mile fully electric vehicle. This would generally be charged up when not in use, ready for a days work. You don't wait for work to come in, and then say "lets charge the vehicle up"

I'm excited to be able to go into a scrap yard soon and whip out an ev van drive train for my vw T3

@vabu94

4 жыл бұрын

I like how you think.

@letsgocamping88

4 жыл бұрын

Just so expensive to convert to ev.

@miketucker7466

4 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought..

@DiscoFang

4 жыл бұрын

"Whip out"? Which parts? All of the drivetrain, controls and batteries? How much do you think that scrappy is going to charge for those?

@skydog7544

4 жыл бұрын

Why not do it now with a wrecked Leaf tho?

Brilliant idea. Just shows how the world can work together to produce a great relevant product.

I once drove the prototype van, it was a prototype cab cut lengthened and shut. Was a few years back now nice to see they are nearly done. Also glad I didn't have to work on them as much as I did the cab

Would be interested if they scrap the engine and add battery capacity instead.

@freddiefox.

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's the Tesla approach. I think the range-extender is a good alternative solution for now, until battery energy density improves, since more batteries = more weight, and that's on top of the load the van will be carrying. The range extender means there's effectively no range limit, albeit it's still relying on petrol to achieve that.

@whocares264

4 жыл бұрын

@@freddiefox. i agree, but the petrol engine is not weightless...

@freddiefox.

4 жыл бұрын

@@whocares264 Indeed not, and ordinarily I'm not keen on petrol-burning internal combustion engines as range-extenders to top-up the vehicle's on-board battery pack. However, in a specialist taxi or delivery van application such as this, where it will be driven almost all day I think it's the right solution for now, until people are more confident with EV range and the charging network speed and availability.

@whocares264

4 жыл бұрын

@@freddiefox. i know what you mean, but in the uk we are not going to get a good charging network but all is not lost i have two evs and my motto is range is everything this van thing should have a minimum of 250 mile range rain wind or shine and load so a 100 kw battery would be needed expensive but doable, save some money and weight of the fossil engine and tank of fossil juice...

@freddiefox.

4 жыл бұрын

​@@whocares264 I guess the market will decide. There are other bus and van manufacturers out there (e.g. Arrival) with battery only products and it's a fast-developing industry where presently the only constant is change. It can't come soon enough.

Range extender is the next logical step towards pure EV. Clean operation without the range anxiety.

@ciaranwebb6871

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t know why other manufacturers haven’t stuck one of their newly developed 3 cylinders under the bonnet of their EVs. The E-Golf would be a perfect example, great range EV, without any charging anxiety at a largely affordable cost

@makatron

4 жыл бұрын

@@ciaranwebb6871 even full size pickup trucks would be getting 50 mpg with a tiny diesel generator with the same power figures.

@Arcadia1997

4 жыл бұрын

Are the engines used as range extenders more efficient than regular engines?

@timscott3027

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed especially for vans and I wish they would start making buses like this I hate driving old loud diesel buses. Not so much for cars I think they're already getting to the point where you don't need an engine, unless you have a serious commute or drive for work then proper phevs like this.

@ciaranwebb6871

4 жыл бұрын

Taylor Yan should be as the engines themselves will always be run at optimum speed for efficiency. Far better than direct drive from the engine. Also minimum wear for reliability as they're never put under conditions that stress the parts.

Cracking van this, hope to see them out and about. We've got 1 london taxi in our local area and I think it looks great.

A lot of deliveries round us in very old diesel vans, owner /driver gig economy? Will need to have some serious incentives to get those clunkers off the road at that price.

Ampera/Volt can clutch the engine to the wheels, to improve efficiency......

@Robert-mt9jw

4 жыл бұрын

Is that sport mode?

@realnutteruk1

4 жыл бұрын

@@Robert-mt9jw I don't think so.... The engine to wheel linkage is very high geared, so it only links the engine to the wheels for motorway type cruising....

@marc0523

4 жыл бұрын

@@realnutteruk1 In the Volt / Ampera when you are low on battery and push the accelerator hard you have a noticeable lag while the clutches sort themselves out.

@whocares264

4 жыл бұрын

matt to really improve efficiency dump the fossil engine ev's 90% efficient ice cars 35% efficient...

@realnutteruk1

4 жыл бұрын

@@whocares264 yes, yes.. clearly! The point was that a series hybrid is less efficient than a parallel hybrid at cruising speeds.....

Great review. You really got in to the detail!

Never thought it could be so interesting watching a video about a commercial van!

Btw that noise on the background is the only person in here and thats a robot...

Metres cubed? We say cubic metres. So the VN5 has a capacity of 5 cubic metres.

@k.j.hulander2204

4 жыл бұрын

It’s the same thing...

@gustavfenk4021

4 жыл бұрын

It's not the same thing. 5 metres cubed could be interpreted as 5 x 5 x 5 metres = 125 cubic metres.

@k.j.hulander2204

4 жыл бұрын

Gustav Fenk that would be an unusual interpretation. A quick google search for “5 metres cubed” gives 5000 litres as the top hit, i.e. 5 cubic metres. However, I agree that saying “5 cubic metres” sounds better than reading out 5m3, which works best in a text.

Spotted a new black TX cab in Nottingham today. A very imposing looking car. Would be fantastic if this van is a success, especially as it's providing jobs in Coventry.

What a cracking looking van so so good to see new to the market vans like that

There’s a camper van in here somewhere

@iainansell5930

4 жыл бұрын

i'd rather go for the VW EV camper lol

They should be all electric by now

@brechtthebest

4 жыл бұрын

Depends on usecase. For cities, BEV is good enough range without hit on payload, but when desiring long range, a BEV would hit payload to much. But I do have the idea this is for cities mostly, so I wonder if they are considering a BEV version

@mowcius

4 жыл бұрын

@@brechtthebest With Ford releasing their BEV Transit Custom late next year and others with similar things in the pipeline, if LEVC aren't planning a full electric version they'll likely get left behind, even in London. Then again, the base model PHEV Transit Custom is already significantly cheaper than the V5 (but it does have the lower electric only range).

It doesn’t look that bad. I like it. Makes total sense.

Thanks Jonny great analysis of this van, that turning circle and 60 miles EV range going to make a lot of London sales.

Did I hear that right? 63 mile electric range with a 31 Kwh battery? That are some horrendous bad numbers. Tesla model 3 standard range + have twice the battery size and four times the range. Even my 8 year old Kangoo Z.E have 75 mile range with an 22 Kwh battery with 13000 miles on it.

2:34 You had me until "range extender EV". 😒

@BobMonkeypimp

4 жыл бұрын

Why? Surely that's a happy medium.

@brechtthebest

4 жыл бұрын

That will drive the acceptance of BEV in the long run, so it is a necessary evil

@TheDanishSpaceman

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed... lack of ambition

Great VT Mr JS. Really interesting indeed 🖖

Great video, I'm convinced that all current vans are designed to fall apart at 5 yrs or 100k, my Vivaro has done just that and cost over £4k to put right, I should have sold it 6 months ago, manufacturer's should have pressure put on them to make vehicles last 10 or even 20 yrs if saving the planet is a genuine concern.

Anyone else thinking Dumb and dumber dog van?

@BobMonkeypimp

4 жыл бұрын

I AM *NOW!!*

@ricardo-iw9sq

4 жыл бұрын

That's it, carnt buy it now, thanks 🤣🤭

Well thought-out van! I like it!

Seen the vid mr PERVERT and I do like it very much.

Awesome work J Dawg

Thanks Jonny. Great to see the cutaway. Hope to see these come to Australia 🇦🇺.

Oh Im sure Postman Pat would be glad of the publicity. Great looking vehicles. . 👍👍

Great idea and looks awesome

Terrific video, love the London cab and this van is so so nice, even though I don't need a van at all, I really would love one of these.

Love it Jonny, keep vehicles longer 👏 and chadamo and ccs , a worlds 1st right there !

Coincidentally, Channel 4 screened their show about the making of the taxi version last night (Saturday, July 25th 2020 for watchers in the far future)

Great video, stuff that is built to last - the future!

As a life long van user Jonny I love it.

That has to be my next small camper van conversion. Its simply brilliant

Excellent looking van with some incredible options. Possibly a great vehicle for your jobbing electricians and trades person

this is beautifully edited

Great base for a small campervan conversion. Easy to make and substitute panels, good clean load bed for seat / bed conversions and we've seen the installation of cupboards and cabinets here already. Starts a bit pricey but really practical for those longer tours where you can get some dinosaur juice from time to time but also you can get electricity at campsites and visitor attractions. Living near Coventry I'm hoping to see a few in the wild soon.