Why These EuroLeague MVPs Were Banned In NBA
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With NBA going position-less, there is one type of players that barely exist anymore. Everybody’s been talking about giant centers that are going extinct, but what about undersized guards? In this video, BasketNews’ Augustas Suliauskas analyzes why undersized guards have such a different impact in the NBA & Europe.
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I miss the little guys: JJ Barea, Nate Robinson, Isaiah Thomas, Earl Boykins. Shout out to Spud Webb and Muggsy Bogues
@Eppu_Paranormaali
Ай бұрын
Getting introduced to Earl Boykins by NBA Live 09 I thought he was a glitch or a joke by the developers. Well, the graphics might have exaggerated a little but mismatch against Yao Ming looked hilarious.
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
JJ Barea in Dallas' championship run was like the most fun guy to watch
@bluntsessions3577
22 күн бұрын
don’t forget Brevin Knight or Nick Van Exel
Superb video! A lot of fans thought big men were gone in the NBA, but it's actually the undersized guards that are being pushed out of the league. That's why I love this channel. Always on-point.
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
thank you very much! we appreciate that!
Jalen Brunson is barely 6'1" too. It's obviously apparent watching a game. NBA height listings are mostly wrong. 99,9% of players are overlisted.
@dimvots6729
Ай бұрын
Το 6.1 σε μάρανε.
@thelawyer95
Ай бұрын
Unless you're KD, then you're underlisted.
@denzelminimo1883
Ай бұрын
Yup. Donovan Mitchell is also 6'1".
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
NBA height listings are usually with shoes. But still, comparing historical data and now, the difference in numbers is clear. they didn't change how they measure players in between
@isimsoyad4474
Ай бұрын
That makes the people listed at 6'1" even shorter to begin with. Assuming everyone is overlisted for the same amount, the discussion is still relevant.
great video, but why are you using the inches metric?
@srdankragulj6581
Ай бұрын
Great point....why using this Star Wars unit...?
@ugoeze7360
Ай бұрын
Because he values freedom units.
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
you're right, should have wrote both.
@personauno4597
Ай бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskas bro forgot he's european and that mostly europeans watch their content
Smaller court in FIBA makes it so the short guys are easier to hide on defense and are more useful on offense because of their shiftiness. Also the talent level in EL is obviously lower so guys who would be 3rd or 4th tier iso guys in the NBA are 1st tier over here.
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
yep. although Mike for example could easily play in the NBA with the insane level of talent, but the style of play I think pushed him out. and of course, his own desire to be the main guy instead of fringe bench-rotation player. these guys need the ball in their hands and in the NBA, that aint happening
@dxfifa
29 күн бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskas Mike James shot under 40% from the field, was not a playmaker, AND can't play defense. He even got a second chance and was ass
Another quality video by chef Augustas 🔥
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
Thanks man!
Plz don't use the stupid imperial system.
@1nopoint
Ай бұрын
6'1" = 185cm
@pidu4588
Ай бұрын
The nba uses the imperial system. Get used to it.
@shanceeaton9508
Ай бұрын
@@pidu4588naw america needs to switch to metric, we weigh drugs n metric because it’s common sense.
@SavivaldybiuLyga
20 күн бұрын
Good point. Metric is created by scientists and everything goes logically in tens. 10 milimeters is 1 centimeter, 100 centimeters is 1 meter, 1000 meters is 1 kilometer. Everythings goes nicely. Imperial is made by XVIII century merchants? What is inches, foots, yards, miles wtf :(
I agree 100%, and can only add the hand checking rule and Zaza rule that creates so much spacing in defense, on man to man and iso plays, so taller guards, or players in general, become a necessity.
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
Exactly!
Their defensive flaws can be better hidden in Europe and they also can thrive on the offense as they face smaller and less athletic defenders compared to NBA. Unless we see another era of small ball in the NBA the small guards are not making significant comeback.
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
I'm afraid you're right about this. And sad about it at the same time
@TesseracTesseracT
Ай бұрын
You are so accurate.
it‘s actually quite funny that in germany the opposite is happening. with the success of teams led by a small guard these last years (i.e. ulm with yago or bonn with shorts) getting a really good small guard to lead your team is becoming kind of popular there.
Great video. But you are evading one important point. These guards also suffer in the playoffs here in Europe. A Mike James style guard would never win a championship here. And he never did. Larkin was an exception but he had Micic and so many other ball handlers like Simone and Beaubois and great role players like Moerman and Singleton. And before him who won a Euroleague was Tyus Edney.
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
But it's easier to hide their flaws in Europe than in NBA playoffs.
The defense move that needs to be employed would get them fouled up but get up close and not allowing the hands to go above there waist..... it would be alot of work but would negate the problems.. obviously WEIGHT ROOM would have to be in order
Seeing the death of these guys over the last decade was like seeing the death of the #10 in football in the same time. I think I've seen enough to conclude that organized sports were better entertainment products before analytics.
do yall think more small guards will be in the league in the future? or is NBA going towards 5 wings on the court at the same time?
@skeletor5708
Ай бұрын
7 foot shooters with elite defense
@fbiopenup6534
Ай бұрын
Small guards are a dying breed, to be a guard in this NBA you gotta be at very least 6'3. Even then I believe in the future the bar will be raised to 6'5.
@4evahodlingdoge226
Ай бұрын
They will make a comeback, the guards today seem slower and taller than ever before, an A.I type would feast.
@jordanbriggs3599
Ай бұрын
@@4evahodlingdoge226I agree. A small player can come out, but it will have to be a special player fasho
Little guy recognizing little guys
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
Lol
Why I watch Euroleague more. Still room for the little guy AND also the big guy. Someone like Purdue's Zach Edey might not fit in NBA anymore, but I think he would do well in the Euroleague.
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
more variety, for sure!
@MrDuncanquasar
Ай бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskas Have you had a chance to check out Edey yet?
What happened to the includes paid promotion sign on the top left in the beginning of the video?
Did they change the title?
So if fiba who makes the rules, shouldn't the rules not be the same the world over just like in football, insteadt of different rule sets? It's the same with hockey it's the same rules, only difference is the ring size
All of these reasons you guys said are factors too But ultimately i see this as LBJ effect Thats why not just short guys that disappear but also 7'1+ guys Now everyone is more or less closer to LBJ height Like 6'7 PG, 6'9 or 6'10 Center etc Its like there is an optimal height for NBA ( i dont think its 6'9 like LBJ tho, i feel like 6'8 or 6'7 is the most versatile height in NBA)
Thank you NBA you did something good
It normal, because at the moment which little player is still dominant, what are they really doing apart from self-proclaimed super playmaker, that every little leader can do it. Where have the super athletic or super scoring leaders gone (the only ones to have really dominated in the NBA), their treatment is only deserved.
You can't teach height, that is the truth. But as the C position evolved to Embid, Jokic, Wembi , Sabonis so does the PG/SG short guys need to evolve and make impact, but coach is always going to prefer height over skills, you need to be 2-5x more skilled than the taller player you are competing with
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
I think guards are already the most talented guys out there of them all but since all the tall guys are improving as well, why would coaches prefer to shorter guys? Before taller guys were in behind with skill level and now we see Wemby doing everything on the court
@novicadamnjanovic934
Ай бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskas that is basically what I wrote 🥲 there is coordination and speed that is lost with height but we will see, " you can't teach height"
Jalen Brunson is 6’1 but is listed at 6’2
Bad drafting by general managers there are some really bad teams out there
It would be fascinating to a professional 6' feet and under league. 😂😂 A height cap
Its a dumb move im tall myself but the shorter gaurds are more fun to watch, quicker, and when they jump it looks damn good... THEYLL BE BACK .. just need more talent the older guys can skill drop good numbers in the NBA
Forgot Brunson averages over 15
It all has to do with the coach and scouter mindset. They are prejudice against short players, they do not play them and then less and less of them play a significant role. It is not where basketball is going, it is where coaches make it go. Remember, for every tall athletic skilled player there is always a faster more skilled and athletic short player. And that goes for defense too. Defense is not only blocks and shot contest, it is pressure and lateral speed too. I bet if you take the best short players up to the small forward position and you give them a good power forward and center , they could challenge every tall line up
@dxfifa
29 күн бұрын
Short players in the NBA can't beat 6'3"-6'6" long athletic guards plus the 6'11" mobile shot blocker anywhere near enough unless they are elite vertical athletes, incredibly fast and strong, plus they have to have skills so good, they can score and create the buckets. A player like Mike James isn't athletic enough, nor strong, nor can he score or create effectively at the NBA level. There is only 1 old school point guard in the NBA, and that is TJ McConnell, who has incredible IQ and hustle, great passing, extremely fast feet and elite short midrange and avoiding the contest layups
keep in mind, NBA players and BBal players in general lie about their height a lot. The average NBA player isn't 6'7, they're more like 6'5. Still taller than average.
bruh, you just have to play defence if ur short. look at pat bev, no-one is saying he can't be in the league.
Mike james sooooo good
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
MVP of the season in the EuroLeague
Donovan Mitchell?
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
He's listed at 6'3 I believe on official NBA site
@4evahodlingdoge226
Ай бұрын
@@AugustasSuliauskasHe's 6'1.25 and J.Brunson is 6'1 flat, no clue why this dude didn't include these guys. M Conley is also 5'11.
D.Mitchell and J.Brunson are both 6'1 so your metrics are off, i'm sure there are more guys you're not including as well. It's also strange that you list 6'1 and under instead of 6'2, come on now.
@klauserikk
25 күн бұрын
Mitchell was 6’3 when playing at Louisville so either he’s shrunken or the NBA is bs’ing to give false hope to fans of shorter height
@4evahodlingdoge226
25 күн бұрын
@@klauserikkHe's 6'1.25 w/o shoes, in shoes they rounded his height up and called him 6'3.
You know it's mostly Europeans watching your channel, so using metric or at least showing on screen would be smart
@AugustasSuliauskas
Ай бұрын
it's not always only Europeans. but yes, a lesson for the future
@jumpy2xstreaming
Ай бұрын
Do you have his demographics? How would you know that for sure?
@eddiehernandez5755
27 күн бұрын
I watch your channel all the time and I'm in Atlanta, Georgia. Not all your fans are in Europe.
first!!!plz pin
They don't have the talent