Why There isn't a House Arryn & Tully Family Tree (Game of Thrones)
Ойын-сауық
House Arryn Family Tree & House Tully Family Tree
for the Game of Thrones show and A Song of Ice and Fire books
Targaryen Family tree discussion and House Frey
Contact ► whycreatevideos@gmail.com
Twitter ► whycreator
Пікірлер: 261
Correction - I said Jon became warden of the west, when I should have said east
@alucardelrojo8675
6 жыл бұрын
I just wish you would never throw any books spoilers. Sometimes seems that there´s one or two that just appear out of nowehere. And also the channel is awsome...
@sarikatimmi
5 жыл бұрын
i like that there is book info. keep em coming
@factbeaglesarebest
3 жыл бұрын
Alucard El rojo I mean Dance has been out for 10 years... most of us have reread the books multiple times.
@zebulonkrause8662
3 жыл бұрын
Arryns of gulltown a cadet branch.
@stomper5432
Жыл бұрын
From this day forward there will be one king of game of thrones youtubers all game of thrones youtubers who bend the knee will keep there channels and views and those who take up arms against him will be thrown down humbled and destroyed!!! in the name of Ravens Hall 1st of his name protector of the 7 kingdoms on youtube!!!!
When Tyrion said Lysa was always "touched", it was a genteel way of saying she has a history of mental instability. My ideas of what made her such a way were: 1) She was always less beautiful than Catelyn, and receive less attention as a younger daughter because she was expected to be born male. Another daughter was a disappointment to a noble House hoping for male heir. 2) Her love for Petyr was never requited until Petyr (pretended to) love her in order to manipulate her to poison her own husband. 3) Unlike Catelyn who was first engaged to Brandon then married to the young, gentlemanly, and handsome Ned Stark; Catelyn was married off to old Jon Arryn who was old enough to be Ned's father. It was an obvious political marriage where they never seemed to grow fond of one another. Her loneliness and bitterness were later taken advantage of by Littlefinger. 3) She killed her own husband, probably passed off her son as his (though he is possibly Littlefinger's bastard); and the guilt tormented her. 4) In spite of all her sacrifices, Littlefinger never loved her, she subconsciously knew this, and that really pushed her over the edge (figuratively and literally). I feel sad for Lysa. Crazy b^tch as she was, she still deserved better.
@YorkusPorkus757
5 жыл бұрын
You’re fuckin dumb
@lightningbug3189
5 жыл бұрын
I agree, her story is a sad mix of naivete and tragedy. Don't forget that she was forced to drink moon tea as a very young teenager to abort Littlefimger's (first) bastard and have several miscarriages before Robin was born.
@Miuranger1
5 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger is the daddy of sweet Robin its obvious
@lightningbug3189
5 жыл бұрын
@New Keys How is breastfeeding molestation? Did I miss something that she did?
@orcbrand
5 жыл бұрын
lmao "southern inbred fuck" why don't you call him the n-word while you'reat it
The thumbnail with Lysa and Robin is so touching, you could never tell how dysfunctional the two are by looking at it. They just look like a loving mother and son.
ALL HAIL THE BLACLFISH BEST CHARACTER IN ASOIF
@kkandsims4612
4 жыл бұрын
He was underrated AF
@rivolverocelot3010
2 жыл бұрын
HAIL!!!!!!
Dude, if anyone gives you crap, ignore it. The work and easy to understand flow you put into your work is astounding, and hands down my favorite GoT info channel. You make me excited to keep re-reading and re-watching more than I already do, so I thank you as a fellow fan for your passion in these projects.
These 2 family's stories intertwine so much in the current story, it only made sense to combine the trees into 1 video
@user-py5gc5dn7t
6 жыл бұрын
whycreate Could you ever do a short video of most recent family trees about the different northern lords?
@lephant5
6 жыл бұрын
Good job. Keep it up.
Sers Kermit, Grover, and Elmo Tully would disagree about the Arryn's being cooler
@thetrueyuu8474
6 жыл бұрын
Ashara Stark True.
@DwRockett
6 жыл бұрын
Dissapointed they weren't brought up
@NickG2009
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah! 😂
@lexicornfell7361
5 жыл бұрын
And Ser Oscar Tully, who sounds like a bit of a grouch.
@kkandsims4612
4 жыл бұрын
Also I think the blackfish would disagree
Arryns are not coolers than the Tully’s whatsoever. The Blackfish himself is easily cooler than any Arryn
@someguy1576
4 жыл бұрын
xTheQuietOnex No disrespect but I have to agree.
@CommanderOfRussia1
3 жыл бұрын
Tully’s were never kings. Arryns ruled over the Vale as kings for thousands of years until Aegon the Conqueror changed that. The Tully’s had multiple chances to become kings after the fall of the Mudd’s but never did.
@stomper5432
Жыл бұрын
Right???
@Heeem13
Жыл бұрын
The vale has more knights than the other kingdoms combined so they can easily beat the whole continent if possible
0:39 EXCUSE ME? THE ARRYNS ARE COOLER THAN THE TULLYS? Well, Actually I Guess The Mountains Of The Vale Are Probably Colder Than The Riverlands. Nevermind.
Here is some sort of family tree for the Tully's: Ser Edmure Tully | Lord Axel Tully | Line of Axel | Lord Elston Tully | Line of Elston | Lord Tommen Tully |__________________ | | Line of Tommen Samwell Rivers | Lord Edmyn Tully | Line of Edmyn | Lord Grover Tully | Line of Grover | Lord Elmo Tully | Lord Kermit Tully | Line of Kermit | Lord Medgar Tully | Line of Medgar |_______________________________ | | Lord Hoster Tully Brynden Tully |____________________________________________________ | | | Lady Catelyn Tully/Stark Lady Lysa Tully/Arryn Lord Edmure Tully I did not include unnamed sons and daughters. There also is Celia Tully. She is somewhere in the Line of Medgar. You also might have noticed lord Grover, Elmo and Kermit. That is not a joke on my part, they really existed. Arryn: King Artys I Arryn | Line of Artys I | King Roland I Arryn | Line of Roland I |__________________________ | | King Roland II Arryn King Robin I Arryn __________________________| | Line of Robin I | King Osric V Arryn | King Hugh I Arryn | Line of Hugh I | King Hugo I Arryn | Line of Hugo I | King Alester II Arryn | Line of Alester II | King Mathos II Arryn | King Osgood I Arryn | King Oswin I Arryn | King Oswell I Arryn | Line of Oswell I | Queen LiRegent Sharra I Arryn |_____________________________ | | King/Lord Ronnel Arryn Lord Jonos Arryn After lord Ronnel and lord Jonos, came lord Hubert. I don't know where to place him in the tree, so I'll just go further from him. Lord Hubert Arryn | Line of Hubert | Lord Rodrik Arryn |_______________________ | | Line of Rodrik Queen Aemma Arryn | Lady Jeyne Arryn | Line of Jeyne | Lord Donnel Arryn | Line of Donnel |_________________________ | | Lord Jasper Arryn Lady Alys Arryn | Lord Jon Arryn | Lord Robin/Robert Arryn There's also Alyssa, but I didn't know where to put her.
@miguelmontenegro3520
6 жыл бұрын
Hendrikjaep Oh yes name a son with the name of the enemy family son's name.
@bittu2507
5 жыл бұрын
Good work my friend
@csquare111
5 жыл бұрын
Grover, Elmo, and Kermit Tully?
@hendrik8277
5 жыл бұрын
@@csquare111 George has a weird sense of humor.
@sumantachakraborty9359
5 жыл бұрын
Well we need a prequel
The book also hints somewhat that Lysa's poisoning of John Arryn wasn't entirely out of love for Littlefinger as Hoster Tully on his deathbed kept apologizing to "Tansy" whom Catelyn later realizes is a nickname for Lysa and that Jon Arryn repeatedly forced himself on Lysa shorty after a quickie marriage in an attempt to have an heir when he was already pretty old and fearful of infertility.
@wh3elson
5 жыл бұрын
Erik Flædt so much for being an honorable house
@adyannam5595
4 жыл бұрын
Tansy is one of the herbs in moon tea I believe-I think he was apologising for forcing her to abort her child
@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO
9 ай бұрын
Are men just infertile in this universe at an old age? This never made any sense to me because in the real world most men are fertile from when they hit puberty up until they die.
@slipstreamxr3763
6 ай бұрын
@@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO Jon Arryn was married once before Lysa and was always implied to have infertility from a young age. There's a reason that Harry the Heir exists in the Vail.
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
3 ай бұрын
@@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO as you age, you are more likely to become infertile. Also in a pre-viagra world, you would lose the ability to get erections regularly at a variety of ages. Even today, after 90 you're quite unlikely to get erections easily.
The Arryn mortality rate is horrific
I have watched a lot of GoT lore videos from KZreadrs and yours are by far some of the most streamline and easily understandable. I subbed after watching the Targaryen video so I wouldn't sell yourself too short but I must admit it is refreshing to see a youtuber take criticism and work off it! Bravo Ser
@whycreate
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim
@timrobson860
6 жыл бұрын
whycreate Don't mention it mate. Its obvious the effort you put in!
"Im going to start with house arryn cuz theyre cooler than the Tullys" 😂
I think the winds of winter will have howland reed finally making an appearance in a long time since the first book, he probably has Ned's bones and Robb's will to crown jon as king of winters?
@whycreate
6 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt that Howland will be in the next book. I'm more worried about him not appearing on the show. I thought for sure Meera and her father would have at least one scene in season 7 but...
Excellent work - as usual. Thorough and entertaining. 👍
I really enjoy your videos, all of em! Please keep up the great work! 🔥🐉
@whycreate
6 жыл бұрын
:D
I gotta say that I love your Videos. Never seen anything with so much thought and detail put into it
@whycreate
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Great job. The targaryen family tree is what got me to sub
I personally love what you do on your channel. Some people are just too stubborn and want things their way without appreciating the time it takes to make these videos! thank you
Also, another important thing to note are the Waynwoods themselves are related to the Starks. Lord Rickard Stark's aunt Lady Jocelyn Stark married Lord Benedict Royce and one if their daughters married into House Waynwood.
Nice job. It'd be cool if you did some of the histories of the houses, lots of interesting stories there. And you're right, the Arryns are cooler.
@williamsanders468
4 жыл бұрын
Blackfish has way cooler a story than any Arryn
5:57 His confidence causes goosebumps
Excellent work; you just picked up a new subscriber.
At least you tried, thank you for being as descriptive as possible and explaining why.
i like your original targaryen family tree to be honest. Its a very long tree so you can expect people to get confused just by that factor. Good job on this one.
@whycreate
6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it :)
you did a good job, can’t wait for the next update of targaryen family tree
My god I never thought about you making a video about house Fray but now you put the notion in my head...
You should try a family tree of several prominent lesser houses, ones that mostly show up in the books and are only mentioned in passing in the show.
jon aryn is the warden of the east, not west
@whycreate
6 жыл бұрын
whoops
How about far Northern clans and Houses (like Skagosi). Infact, I think Coldhands (in the books), is from House Stane, a thousand years ago. Septon Jorquen wrote a book (the Black Centaur). It mentioned a member of this House becoming First Ranger and died shortly afterwards. Besides Coldhands speaks prayers in the Old Tongue, rides a giant elk, and appears as an ancient Ranger of the Nights Watch. Not to mention Leaf said he died long ago. Yeah not Uncle Benjen, sorry. A Child of the Forest saying long ago (Is a really long time). I'm sure Benjen is still alive in the books. He should have a chapter in Winds of Winter, on Skagos.
Your Targaryen video is the best family tree!
This worked well- you should do this format with 2/3 houses each video.
Thank you. I watched the entire playlist.
I understand what you mean about not a lot of info on some families, but why not try a "lesser houses of the Reach", "lesser houses of the Westerlands" etc.? Just a suggestion. Keep up the great work! edit: extra context
Nah I always liked the fact that you started from modern Targaryens in their family tree video and then went up to the old days
Dude. Don’t worry. At least you put in the effort and we appreciate it. You’re videos are still very entertaining. Everyone makes mistakes. Don’t strive for perfection. Strive for results
Sorry if we have been pushing you too hard love this
One thing i don't get how Lysa is the killer and lansters were like oh cool jon dead we are not surprised I think you get what i try to ask so please answer
Am I the only one who thinks that robin is the son of lysa and petyr and Jon arryn was being lied to all along?
@theinvisiblewoman6783
5 жыл бұрын
110%
@HH-cm5rp
5 жыл бұрын
why would Petyr try to poison Sweetrobin with milk of the poppy then ?
Aye honestly I might be the only one who is understanding how your putting this out
Can you do a video of all the familys that held Harrenhal!
3:22 I don't know why this made me laugh😂
I really like this guys videos
@whycreate
6 жыл бұрын
:D
You better cover the Frey family.
Who were lord tully and lord arryn during dance of dragons? Both joined rhaenyra
Sweet Robin is Peryr's kid! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
Yeah House Frey would drive anybody crazy
@emilybarclay8831
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not a family tree it’s a bloody jungle
Sooooo... where is this updated vid?
I love these videos but can you pleeeease do a dragon video about the first dragon and some of the more popular ones? Have a good day!
Jon Snow was probably named after 2 people, not 1. Jon Arryn AND Jon Connington
WE NEED A HOUSE FREY TREE!
I think that Robin is little fingers son
Are you Kevin GT and Blackfyre too?
I actually like your Targaryan family tree video
Keep Them coming lol
I like how the title says why there isn't a house arryn, then the first thing you say is let's begin with house arryn
What's going happen to sweet robin in season8
Cooler than the Tullys?? You got me to watch this whole video, from that one line.. U still tripping for that BTW 😂 great video gangster!
The Arryn’s seem so weak in the books and show
@miguelmontenegro3520
6 жыл бұрын
Luke Everson No, its just that lysa is so afraid of everything and keeps her son's army hidden
@rayravernous4376
5 жыл бұрын
The Arryns have very powerful vassals. Corbray, Royce, Waynwood, whatever the Ninestar knight's house is and such.
Remember Amma Targaryen mother of Rhaenyra wife of king Viserys was half Arryn and Targaryen so you can go from Rhaenyras line
You don't need to wait to redo your Targaryen family tree. As the show has shown that Jon is a Targaryen, then that is true for the books as well. Remember that the reason the writers were allowed to turn the series into a show was that the correctly guessed who Jon's mother was.
You might want to dig deeper into your research there is a House Tully and a House Arryn family tree.
Doesnt edmure have a child?
@whycreate
6 жыл бұрын
Roslin Frey is pregnant with his child
@williamsanders468
4 жыл бұрын
Like that didn’t get aborted
I’m with ya on the swords story not really adding anything to the real story lines .Just he went here his brother went there for some time then he died and the exiled brother comes back to rule .magear was a beast in battle dark sister bla bla bla. It’s all been said before and it felt like I was reading world of ice and fire chapter I’m guessing that prob what it was !
what about elmo tully, grover tully, and all the other seseme street ones
You forgot Edmund Tully. Ancestor to Hoster and his brother Brynden the Blackfish. He rebelled against Harran the Black and was made Lord Paramountof the Trident by Aegon the Conqueror
Why is Alys's crescent moon partly red?
@laal6290
4 жыл бұрын
To show that she is a girl
Didn’t Littlefinger go to Harrenhal to meet with Tywin?
Aww but Frey word be funny xD Hell give me the information and I'll try and make a video even though my editing skills SUCK xD
a surprise that the Blackfish never went to The Wall. he might yet. I suppose as long as his family had a need for him... and BOY do they ever, now....
Fire & Blood mentions Arryn. A Stark married into the family back in the day.
@ahtinen4004
3 жыл бұрын
into House Arryn? I heard it's house Royce a Stark married into.
Wait how did a house which had laster 1000 years only be two generations
@leila6528
3 жыл бұрын
i think because GRRM never really focused/explored on the Arryn’s family tree, unlike the targaryens or the starks.
Dayne?
I want to see howlend reed and daario their last appearence.
There are more arryn's 'Denis The darling of the vale' who died in robert's rebellion and some more.
blackfish is the man
A year and a half years later and no redoing of the Targaryen family tree?
The blackfish could fight five men with his left hand while taking a piss with his right
Plz make a Frey family tree
So here is an idea, do freys as the last video of the channel.
Ther isnt enough information about the Arryn familly? Have you ever considered diving a bit further in the familys House like going back into the Houses early begginings? Ther is tones of information we dont have infront of us & care more about the Houses Past & not so much what we can see & hear for ourselves by paying attention to the shows dialogue.
Preston Jakob made a video lf the frey civil war anf it has yhe closest thing to a family tree. I would suggest to check it out
What about tarth?
Shame! Shame! eee jk would love to see the updated version n i dont mind if we have to wait for the new book/s
so Robb and Jon were named after Jon Arryn and Robert Baratheon
You have to wonder why so many Lord's in Westeros accept Harrenhal, knowing its curse and history. If I was a Lord of Westero's and a King granted me the title Lord of Harrenhal and the accompanying lands & wealth, I'd accept gratefully but I'd tear the castle down and start again, building something much more manageable than the cursed ruin.
Didn’t the arryns exist at the time of Aegons conquest when Rhaneys went to the vale and the took the queens son for a ride
Aryns were wardens of the east not weast
can you do Cerseis kings guard
Make the bald man cry!
I can't get over Alys and Elys.
How is this any less than the Mormont video?
house arryn is cooler then the tullys
I actually did a frey family tree and yeah that's too big and too confusing
Dammit man!! Where's a new video?!?!? I have almost watched all of them!! I even let the long ads play so you acquire revenue!
Jon Arryn was Warden of the East. Not Warden of the west, he was a falcon, not a lion.
Please House Velaryon
House tully is 3 generations in the tv series, edmure has a son.
sooo, not a conversation, but a monologue,,,
@akalion213
5 жыл бұрын
Is this your first day on KZread or something?