Why the pros play Imperius

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Pro is a pretty open term, I find that people competing over tens of thousands every month are still considered pros. In this case this game wasn't a pro game, but it was a pro player playing essentially the build I wanted to discuss.
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  • @JWelson9980
    @JWelson99805 жыл бұрын

    Sooo happy to see this series come back!

  • @fuegoultra2818
    @fuegoultra28185 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Good to see you keeping up with the content. One thing I would suggest is making that build that is used in each video easily accessible. I realise this is an analysis and not a build video but it would still be very helpful.

  • @theblackshogun4711
    @theblackshogun47115 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Paradox for the content that you made,i really apreciate your work. Malganis will be great for a new video,i really want to see a pro play with Malganis

  • @BarbraYaga
    @BarbraYaga5 жыл бұрын

    This series should be named "Why the pros ban X" xD Great video mate thanks for the content!

  • @alexeyt.3060
    @alexeyt.30605 жыл бұрын

    i want to add: imperius and kel'tuzad have great synergy

  • @Feanarth

    @Feanarth

    5 жыл бұрын

    Basically any AoE works great, Kael, Kt, Jaina either create icicles or marshmallows on your pointy stick and it's glorious if it works out :D

  • @alexeyt.3060

    @alexeyt.3060

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Feanarth agreed but lich particularly glad to see imperius in his team :D

  • @christopherjohnson2171

    @christopherjohnson2171

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Feanarth Yeah, Li-Mings will love those Q stabs too, they are always comboing off me.

  • @eleSDSU

    @eleSDSU

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stitches :3, did I tell you they buffed Gorge?

  • @xEsCApeTheLaWz

    @xEsCApeTheLaWz

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mal'ganis has even better synergy though. And he had both in his team so it's basically gg

  • @pyroweasel90
    @pyroweasel905 жыл бұрын

    My favorite thing about these videos is, that you can see other players take this advice to a tee in game.

  • @Johnvardas
    @Johnvardas5 жыл бұрын

    Very awesome video, generally the series is something cool! Earned that sub!

  • @xaviermolina6742
    @xaviermolina67425 жыл бұрын

    I actually used this exact set up when I started playing again last week and I'm surprised to see that it's a meta build

  • @christianearlsabijon
    @christianearlsabijon5 жыл бұрын

    I love the change of style in thumbnail.

  • @tammasdexter4291
    @tammasdexter42915 жыл бұрын

    The level 1 and 4 talents stack with each additional mark removed. So you do 7.5% max health damage if you remove all three at once

  • @Gef105
    @Gef1055 жыл бұрын

    That Maiev tho 2:42

  • @nunyuhbiznass8052

    @nunyuhbiznass8052

    5 жыл бұрын

    Read the map well or most likely in coms with Imperius. Danged ol' kill stealer...

  • @christopherjohnson2171
    @christopherjohnson21715 жыл бұрын

    Ever since his first mini-patch those first 3 talents are how I've played too. If you stick the Q on the initiate they are in serious trouble--your damage, and you set up your teammates AoE too.

  • @arturicmelloroch
    @arturicmelloroch5 жыл бұрын

    if paradox comes back with his motivational voice “hUUUge amount of dmg”, means that hots is not dead!!! =D

  • @vividimaginer
    @vividimaginer5 жыл бұрын

    Future vid idea? Why pros aren’t playing Chen!

  • @bobbyrose2380

    @bobbyrose2380

    5 жыл бұрын

    Heroes of the Stun

  • @iLikePizza829

    @iLikePizza829

    5 жыл бұрын

    Chen is new meta, they just keep it in secret.

  • @markcsorba6552

    @markcsorba6552

    5 жыл бұрын

    iLikePizza They have been keeping that secret for 3 years I see...

  • @GardianV3v
    @GardianV3v5 жыл бұрын

    Competitive games don’t need the company to back them. Plenty of grassroots organizations and the community can keep the game alive (like melee)

  • @androski5247

    @androski5247

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pro scenes often develop before the company backs them. HotS just seems to be going in reverse.

  • @jean-christophearsenault2104

    @jean-christophearsenault2104

    3 жыл бұрын

    Are you guys worried about the future of this game considering it's not supported anymore by a major actor ?

  • @GardianV3v

    @GardianV3v

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jean-christophearsenault2104 major actor? do you mean it not being in EVO?

  • @MogoFromHell
    @MogoFromHell5 жыл бұрын

    When l first saw some streamers' builds when he came out l was like 'meh' fuck that l'll try another build, and was close to this one so l'm happy it's actually a thing

  • @SomeRandomJork
    @SomeRandomJork5 жыл бұрын

    I was expecting NotParadox to say "I only got him to level 15, still pretty low level". Anyway, carry on.

  • @belljo
    @belljo5 жыл бұрын

    I like the series name... there will always be "pros" that play this game or any game for that matter whether there's an official pro-scene or not. Don't cave to the semantics game...

  • @JWelson9980

    @JWelson9980

    5 жыл бұрын

    Best comment!

  • @ailurusludens1342

    @ailurusludens1342

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, totally agree.

  • @nailtoolofamusement

    @nailtoolofamusement

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, but try to understand them, killing the HGC took its toll on all of us 😞

  • @cerasbelmont1710

    @cerasbelmont1710

    5 жыл бұрын

    By definition one must be engaged in a paid arrangement to be considered a professional. That's not to say we wont use the word as slang to identify highly skilled players, but technically they are not professionals. This is not an argument on your statement but a clarification of what you are stating.

  • @oscmag13
    @oscmag135 жыл бұрын

    Remember when malth was actually able to melt tanks?

  • @orgazmo18
    @orgazmo184 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a video like this for thrall? And if you do not, could you make one? You fundamentally broke down a character that I main and do well with in such a way that I will be eternally grateful.

  • @BeanieL2p
    @BeanieL2p5 жыл бұрын

    to clarify, that brand talent does 2.5% per brand consumed so if u got all 3 brands on target thats 7.5% hp on aa or u only get the bonus once per swing how ever many brands?

  • @LoboCrepuscularZelda

    @LoboCrepuscularZelda

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's 2.5 per brand, so yes, you deal 7.5% bonus dmg if you have all 3 brands

  • @Pztik
    @Pztik5 жыл бұрын

    A lot better and more relevant than the Guldan vid. Gj. :)

  • @Aiveq
    @Aiveq5 жыл бұрын

    i prefer taking Q talents at 1-13-16 and so far the only one i could not kill 1v1 is Artanis. 1 gives you reduced cd that works nicely out of 13 and 16 where 13 gives you almost same effect as armor but for your entire team. 16 is just dirty coupled with fervor(7) and active 7 during team fight letting you down most assassins to below 50%... multiple assassins

  • @Atanatari165
    @Atanatari1654 жыл бұрын

    "a shield that can prevent a little bit of damage" 1000 point shield is a "little bit?" dude that thing will let you shrug off a pyroblast

  • @ultralaggin8467
    @ultralaggin84675 жыл бұрын

    Would like for you to do a how to counter video cause varian and imperious are not fun to play against

  • @Tobeh
    @Tobeh5 жыл бұрын

    Maiev prison -> Wrath of the Angiris -> dunked into Void Prison -> Ley Lines -> Devouring Maw

  • @DangerWW
    @DangerWW5 жыл бұрын

    Can we just get some love for Porky's head's up play at 2:42?

  • @ailurusludens1342
    @ailurusludens13425 жыл бұрын

    And no one mentions the cool Mal'Ganis plays? :D

  • @jasonweibel9107
    @jasonweibel91075 жыл бұрын

    god damn it. i was the rehgar on the other team for this. my team was so bad....

  • @IgnisNatus
    @IgnisNatus5 жыл бұрын

    So which is the main tank talent build?

  • @Schokofondue
    @Schokofondue5 жыл бұрын

    I want an only AI pro scene, played by DeepMind like AlphaStar in StarCraft. Would be so much fun to watch and learn more about the game because the AI comes up with strategies nobody has thought of :)

  • @BfhChaosXX

    @BfhChaosXX

    5 жыл бұрын

    Get to modfying the SC-API for HOTS then :D

  • @artoriasonthemove2465
    @artoriasonthemove24655 жыл бұрын

    Did this build first time with imperius. MVP most damage, most damage tanked as solo tank. He is fricking OP

  • @dorpth
    @dorpth2 жыл бұрын

    Angiris is definitely the more fun ult, but it's almost always the inferior choice. I have no clue why the cooldown is so long. It's a high risk skillshot with a significant windup for something that ends up being a worse version of Stitches' hook (at least that goes over terrain, Imperius' "flying" ult can't). It feels like it should have the lvl 20 talent baked into it by default, or make the speed/duration better, or at least reduce to a 15 second cooldown if missed.

  • @freezado8573
    @freezado85735 жыл бұрын

    Had big problems with imperius and it wasn't interesting to play him. With this build he became very fun :D

  • @Mazeltof90
    @Mazeltof904 жыл бұрын

    I’d say that imperious is a great team player due to his cc spear and a great brawler due to his self sustain and dmg (valorous brand then ofc). His heroics are just a clearer spec for if he is a solo duelist (shield/swords) or if he creates opportunities for his team (the wrath of the angeris). His one weakness is being kited by quick opponents..Comments?

  • @MrTomasNavarro
    @MrTomasNavarro5 жыл бұрын

    The Imperius videos I'd seen before this seemed to suggest Impaling Light at level 1 was obviously the best talent to go for. I thought I was just being a crazy bad player that I thought Burn the Impure was so much better.

  • @boguinator

    @boguinator

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why

  • @Alien43

    @Alien43

    5 жыл бұрын

    I do also think Burn the Impure might be the better talent but Impailing Light is so much more fun. I usually pick it and Celestial Swiftness at 16 and if you have the quest completed you can get that perma 50% attack speed and 20% movement speed in a fight which really turns you into a monster, as long as you hit your q's that is

  • @autisticknight8413

    @autisticknight8413

    5 жыл бұрын

    at release, impaling light is his best talent since burn the impure at release only applies to the marks from his W, and there's no talent that make it easier to apply the mark. no cd reduction, even the blaze of glory talent doesn't apply a 2nd w mark. it was an awful talent, but then blizzard overbuffed it and made it so that all marks trigger this talent, which effectively means this 2.5% max hp dmg can be trigger 2-3 times more often in battle and can proc up to 7 times when the enemy choose to stand and fight with a full set of basic abilities(pre buff can only proc once).

  • @VaidaBogdan
    @VaidaBogdan5 жыл бұрын

    How are you preventing them from taking the globe? You stun them a bit and then they take the globe.

  • @sevoula97
    @sevoula974 жыл бұрын

    Maltha-e-eh-l

  • @aungmyoko4716
    @aungmyoko47165 жыл бұрын

    Plz Gundam skin for Imperius xD

  • @161patox
    @161patox5 жыл бұрын

    Yrel scary, now that's an omegalul

  • @vitorsamuel777
    @vitorsamuel7775 жыл бұрын

    Can you make one on KT? Thinking of starting to main him since I hate how he kills everyone in 2 seconds

  • @dankendabby9227
    @dankendabby92275 жыл бұрын

    How have people played houndreds of games already with Imperius, wasn't he Just released?

  • @brandioestereich369
    @brandioestereich3695 жыл бұрын

    Is hero league gone?

  • @Wakooify
    @Wakooify5 жыл бұрын

    The spear hitbox of his Q is so forgiving...

  • @Valle2223
    @Valle22235 жыл бұрын

    Isn't the level 1 talent "Burn the Impure" even better than you are describing? The wording is kinda odd, especially when you compare the wording to the level 4 talent "Battle Hunger". But from my tests it sure feels like you are not only doing 2.5% max hp damage when you attack a marked enemy, but you actually do 2.5% per mark consumed. So if you attack an enemy with 3 marks it does 7.5% max hp damage.

  • @Shoddragon

    @Shoddragon

    5 жыл бұрын

    that is how it works, correct. each "ability" puts its own specific mark and each of those marks consumed does 2.5% max hp damage. at 3 marks, it indeed does 7.5%.

  • @nasarharis5453
    @nasarharis54535 жыл бұрын

    please do a video on Rexxar

  • @Necromitzu1

    @Necromitzu1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, please! I'd love to see a vid on Rexxar

  • @JokerFey
    @JokerFey5 жыл бұрын

    Because Purging Heretic is Fun.

  • @ghostgurl17
    @ghostgurl175 жыл бұрын

    Imperius has got some MP issue.. esp early game and your on solo lane.

  • @Hirux
    @Hirux5 жыл бұрын

    I feel like imperius can ba a main tank. I think he need Hp buffs

  • @artoriasonthemove2465

    @artoriasonthemove2465

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think he tanks enough in the cases he is used through the heals... He can't be stopped against teams with double tanks and not enough poke.

  • @abivarman13
    @abivarman135 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a build guides for all Heroes

  • @mmorkinism

    @mmorkinism

    5 жыл бұрын

    Go to HotS logs, select hero, select diamond and master divisions and pick most popular talents.

  • @horyzons91
    @horyzons915 жыл бұрын

    so many salty annoying comments. love the series, keep it up

  • @Patrick_Spack
    @Patrick_Spack5 жыл бұрын

    Now that title didn't age well..

  • @saohangun578
    @saohangun5785 жыл бұрын

    Why the pros pick TheOne banner next, please.

  • @JrBangY
    @JrBangY4 жыл бұрын

    why non pros dont play tank

  • @mariop5606
    @mariop56065 жыл бұрын

    We all know it’s thanks to Hawkray’s video

  • @Lucitaur
    @Lucitaur5 жыл бұрын

    Wrath is a shit heroic; can't even damage and stun enemies you land on, can't take your target over walls or terrains (which a simple hook or toss can), while it should be able to do both.

  • @solomongorringe69
    @solomongorringe695 жыл бұрын

    i hate how bad my setup is, not offence to the guy playing but if he is considered a pro for the game i could definitely make it in tournaments, just i run with a potato computer hocked to a android camera for internet

  • @napakamu9670
    @napakamu96705 жыл бұрын

    there are no pros in hots though

  • @tyronechua3844

    @tyronechua3844

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol!

  • @arekk6470
    @arekk64705 жыл бұрын

    Do pros play chen?

  • @Sleeper800

    @Sleeper800

    5 жыл бұрын

    No lol

  • @JsoProductionChannel

    @JsoProductionChannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Weak to CC. Can be good tho. But CC is meta

  • @altaccount9343

    @altaccount9343

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't think anyone plays Chen

  • @BingBangPoe
    @BingBangPoe5 жыл бұрын

    Short answer: because they've been asking for him since the Alpha.

  • @Draylenn
    @Draylenn5 жыл бұрын

    HGC BibleThump

  • @Stingray767
    @Stingray7675 жыл бұрын

    theres no pros in hots anymore omegalul

  • @ARL1911
    @ARL19115 жыл бұрын

    There is no more pro scene, joke is on you.

  • @presianvasilev6066
    @presianvasilev60665 жыл бұрын

    I think his level 1 should be nerfed to either 2% or 1.5% max health damage per brand as it's doing way too much, actually expecting to see it in the next patch.

  • @VArsovski10
    @VArsovski105 жыл бұрын

    This vid just made me realize that lvl1 talent rly needs a nerf.. Maybe keep the burst but reduce healing received amount, something like Gul'Dan's Hunger for Power.. Keep it as an option, but WITH a cost in return

  • @JsoProductionChannel
    @JsoProductionChannel5 жыл бұрын

    The healing at lvl 13 only gives about 500 more healing. It is bad. Only pick different talent at 16 imo. They are all good.

  • @SckharDracolong
    @SckharDracolong5 жыл бұрын

    Are there any pro players in the game after the game fails?

  • @usernamehyt
    @usernamehyt5 жыл бұрын

    all I see is he dies and malganis doing all the work , nah a tank without escape is shit

  • @Liquidsignz
    @Liquidsignz5 жыл бұрын

    Funny that the series is still named why the pros play. like there would be any pros left in this game, except for some youtubers :D but i am glad youre keeping the series alive.

  • @lukaszjouanny7252
    @lukaszjouanny72525 жыл бұрын

    hey :) why not make series " Why the pros dont play ( for example gazol // BW //sylvana // ... )"

  • @TheOdkaz
    @TheOdkaz5 жыл бұрын

    What a surprise that new hero is OP.... I can almost hear credit cards ... and trust me, blizzard hear them too

  • @ocek2744
    @ocek27445 жыл бұрын

    I play Imperius a lot. A. lot. (almost 400 games 60% winrate) I find it funny that the way Blizzard portrayed him as using W first, Q second, but ideally I will use my Q first and W on the follow up. Also, I don't bother with Impaling Light. Low chance of hitting 3 without a good set up, isn't worth much anyways.

  • @trinitywarrior1320
    @trinitywarrior13205 жыл бұрын

    pro hots omegalol

  • @Goblin08yh
    @Goblin08yh5 жыл бұрын

    Wait what? There are still pro's for this game????

  • @suopo32

    @suopo32

    5 жыл бұрын

    Goblin08yh yeah true that

  • @azure5584

    @azure5584

    5 жыл бұрын

    There aren't. As soon as you don't make a living off of your profession (professional gamer in this case), you're no longer a professional. The only ones you can call HotS pros anymore would be HotS streamers, though even that's a stretch.

  • @wiegraffolles9822
    @wiegraffolles98225 жыл бұрын

    It's not their job, they are not getting paid to compete in professional competition, therefore they are not pros. I'm not belittling how good people are at the game. Maybe say something like "Why Grandmasters play (this hero)." Still sounds pretty good to me.

  • @zeon_trl1326

    @zeon_trl1326

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sev Kimura well they were professional then

  • @wiegraffolles9822

    @wiegraffolles9822

    5 жыл бұрын

    _Zeon _ I get it, don’t want to say “used to be pros”, but it’s just plainly not true that they are hots pros anymore. For instance, you don't call Shaq a professional basketball player anymore.

  • @TH-dg2mm

    @TH-dg2mm

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@wiegraffolles9822 "Professional:" Engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime. Thus according to the dictionary and logic, yeah they're pros.

  • @wiegraffolles9822

    @wiegraffolles9822

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TH-dg2mm Being a professional for super smash bros, like Paradox mentions at the start, does not make a person a professional hots player. Another example, twitch streaming hots for their income does not make hots their profession, they are a professional twitch streamer. Sure you can say, "being a pro of something else makes them a pro," but it's disingenuous to say they are pros in direct reference to hots, which is what this video is about. So, if that's the standard we're applying, then my dentist can be considered a pro for hots.

  • @tabula_rosa
    @tabula_rosa5 жыл бұрын

    the amount of people who think no hgc = no pro "Pro" just means making a living off of it. As long as there are cash-prize tournies & someone wins them enough to pay their rent there are pro players, tho i guess we wouldnt recognize them as gamers if they werent licking dog turds off the bottom of a corporation's boot

  • @GreenNastyRabbit
    @GreenNastyRabbit5 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion no one can already tell he’s a pro with this hero... it’s a new hero... so...

  • @joshmilner4864
    @joshmilner48645 жыл бұрын

    I must of forgot the part where HOTS had a pro scene. Can you send me an official tournament bracket or who is sponsoring these "pros" to play?

  • @horyzons91

    @horyzons91

    5 жыл бұрын

    why even comment this shit? go play league then

  • @zzer0_420
    @zzer0_4205 жыл бұрын

    without even watching the video i can already say they play him because he's new and broken lol

  • @fiorilli1
    @fiorilli15 жыл бұрын

    I do think maybe you can rename this series, just to don't contribute with salt, like "how to play". Personally I don't mind but as content creator you deserve lot of love, you do a great job. Imperius btw, I have to try 7 talent, I always picked the damage to w. I feel malganis and imperius in same team is gg go next to enemy, what a bully frontline! Keep it up, thanks to you I tried W sylv and now I can have fun with her.

  • @dreadreaper7123
    @dreadreaper71235 жыл бұрын

    Wait this game still have pross???

  • @janschmid281
    @janschmid2815 жыл бұрын

    "Pros" omegalul

  • @bobbobb5759
    @bobbobb57595 жыл бұрын

    i'm not that great at hots...but christ was that first match supposed to showcase good play? cause...kinda bad lol

  • @brandonwilbur2146
    @brandonwilbur21465 жыл бұрын

    What pros

  • @infinitesinxyou1821
    @infinitesinxyou18215 жыл бұрын

    is there still pros?

  • @claytonbryan807
    @claytonbryan8075 жыл бұрын

    What pros?

  • @waldo2543
    @waldo25435 жыл бұрын

    I tried to play a ranked game 2 days ago at 2pm and it took 15min back to back for matches, this game is dead, blizzard is not far behind

  • @spicymac7852
    @spicymac78525 жыл бұрын

    Pros ? What pros?

  • @felpudini
    @felpudini5 жыл бұрын

    WHY THE PROS PLAY HOTS

  • @Shaeuwu
    @Shaeuwu5 жыл бұрын

    what pros?

  • @auracle6184
    @auracle61845 жыл бұрын

    I'm curious, have recent events made you consider whether it's justifiable to continue supporting Activision Blizzard games? I've uninstalled bnet and won't be giving them my time or money and I wondered if there are any other justifications for people like you who rely on this type of content than "yeah but the game is fun even though my content acts in part as advertising for Activision Blizzard." IMO there are plenty of other great games out there made by better companies. Ethics is everywhere.

  • @nightly2005

    @nightly2005

    5 жыл бұрын

    Is it justifiable to have money, when children in Africa are starving? Is it justifiable to enjoy yourself when there are so many deathly sick people? I enjoy the game. Why not play it? People enjoy apex legends, but it is made by ea. Should they stop playing it? This world is shit, man. So, why shouldn't he make content that he enjoys to make just because the publisher is bad. Gamedevs of hots are doing great job right now. Should he abandon them in the kind of a same manner Activision abandoned 800 people? Sorry for rant, i guess

  • @auracle6184

    @auracle6184

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nightly2005 I do see where you're coming from and I don't think it's as simple as how it might have come across from my original comment. I wasn't asking NP to stop or anything, just wondered if similar thoughts had crossed his mind for a different perspective. It's easier for me because I don't rely on making gaming content, but yeah I don't play any EA games including Apex Legends because I'd like EA, Activision and companies like them to fail and it'd be hypocritical to keep playing their games while feeling that way. It would be a shame for the innocent people working for them, but when you've got an infected foot, sometimes the whole leg's got to come off to stop the rot.

  • @retardrdcompany

    @retardrdcompany

    5 жыл бұрын

    I dont like activision or ea too but if ea makes a game that I will like I would gladly play it,you are so childish "I dont play specific games because of the companies"lol you think you are crushing their economy by uninstalling their games?mature up please

  • @auracle6184

    @auracle6184

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@retardrdcompany lol you can do what you want, but exactly this attitude by tens of thousands of people is literally the reason these companies get away with it. We see all the time that when even a relatively small group gives them shit, they back down because it hits their stock prices.

  • @retardrdcompany

    @retardrdcompany

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well at this point its impossible for those companies to shutdown,they will always find a way to grab money,so just play What you enjoy

  • @Kreptail1
    @Kreptail15 жыл бұрын

    who?

  • @d2cmp
    @d2cmp5 жыл бұрын

    so basically play imperius like a bully

  • @Tomoyo0827
    @Tomoyo08275 жыл бұрын

    What PRO? there is no PRO in Heros anymore, remember?

  • @insertname9140
    @insertname91405 жыл бұрын

    Which pros? All of them left

  • @user-gn3zo1gw2w
    @user-gn3zo1gw2w5 жыл бұрын

    Yes very educational as always but pls show us a match worth to watch and not yolo malthael 2 vs 5 u can post a loose too its not a shame ☺

  • @auccult5866
    @auccult58665 жыл бұрын

    why do pro still bother playing is the real question

  • @ahawkai
    @ahawkai5 жыл бұрын

    Pros?

  • @wolneyluis4649
    @wolneyluis46495 жыл бұрын

    Wich pros ? WTF

  • @michealguenther4246
    @michealguenther42465 жыл бұрын

    Lol "pro's"I love when HOTS had a pro scene all the casuals were complaining about having a meta and wanting to play 4 specialists in a game and not be shit talked about it. Now that this game is a casual gamer paradise with all the good players gone the casual players left behind are talking about whats meta and what isn't meta and bringing up their own hero tier lists. The hots community is just too cute haha

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