I'm Irish lived in Ireland my whole life and istg every time I see an American Irish person going on about how they're of "Irish ancestry" and act “stereotypically Irish” or act like they might as well have lived here because they visited tourist attractions one time here and then they actually don’t know anything about our culture or history It gets on my nerves, like it feels disrespectful especially when more often than not those people only know 1: weren’t considered white 2:potato famine 3: A lot of us emigrated to America Please just educate yourself if you’re going to claim you’re Irish at least learn about things like idk years of civil war , the language which is still present despite the last monolingual Gaeilge speaker long gone, how we actually act generally, etc. Anyways sorry for the rant, just read or talk to someone actually from Ireland

@sunnmcheaux

2 жыл бұрын

No apology needed... it had to be said, and nobody better than an Irish person to say it.

@TheForrest05

2 жыл бұрын

Cherokee here bub feel ya. Especially family lore "Cherokee" or DNA website correlate strong with the American Irish you're describing. Gramps was a ginger Cherokee so need to look into the dividing roots lol.

@rasheed12th38

2 жыл бұрын

Most of them are as far removed from Ireland as we are from Africa.

@TheForrest05

2 жыл бұрын

@@rasheed12th38 citizenship is a foreign concept to their fantasy.

@alvamind5286

2 жыл бұрын

That's why I try to phrase it as, "yeah, that's where my genes trace back to." Or something like that. Technically, that's true, but my family has been in America since at least the early 1800s so I'm very far removed and I don't feel right equating myself to those in the culture. Would love to learn more about the culture and my roots in general, though. Just don't know where to start.

The definition of whiteness has changed so much over the years. Slavs, Greeks, Iberians, Italians, and Irish were all once considered not white.

@succo_di_re5484

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes they still aren’t.

@britvica

2 жыл бұрын

Funny considering caucasian comes from "being from caucasus" and that being from caucasus means being slavs🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

@joeshmoe5160

2 жыл бұрын

@@succo_di_re5484 to white nationalists and the like, Italians are not white. We are middle eastern. Sat down with this guy bc I was like you know, probably not ever guna talk to a white nationalist again, so might as well get an understanding. While I gained some, but I am now twice as confused as I was before. Like this dude what half Hispanic and he thought he was this 100% white, and him being Hispanic was a "common myth spread in America". He brought up Italians, to which I said I was, and he said I couldn't be because I didn't have the correct bone structure. The fact my mother my mother literally came on a boat says otherwise, but okay. He said Italians share the same bone structure, and a few other things I don't quite remember, with "what you would probably refer to as someone from the middle east or sand...." I'm sure you get that. And honestly those people are just gross. I don't think it matters if you are white. Like why? Does it? Not one country, religion, culture, or ideology that links "white" people. And I also don't understand why the right wingers "who don't care about race" defend whiteness. Like not to be overly political, but if you're trying to tell me it's not about race, why do you keep talking about it? And it's because they all would rather make us think you hate me and I hate you because you're this and I'm that. Because outrage gives them money. The media and the politicians, they all rather watch you burn it down and see who wins than to not dump gasoline on the fire. Thats why mitch McConnell voted on gun control and the democrats never prevented the overturning of Roe. Abortion and gun control are issues those 2 sides know are hard pressed issues for their constituents, the more they can say they're taking away your rights, the more money and power they have. Any way, fuck anyone who wants to promote separation or anger towards other groups. We are all people.

@umokwhy2830

2 жыл бұрын

@@britvica okay well explain that to the racist assholes who treated everyone as such.

@iwashere5956

2 жыл бұрын

by who?. They may have been treated differently but they've always been white.

A lot of anti-Irish sentiment was due to them being Catholic. Religious bigotry is also bad, kids.

@1972Ray

Ай бұрын

Yet I was raised catholic and never heard anything racist. This was in the 60's.

@CoyoteCatalyst

Ай бұрын

@@1972Ray Religious bigotry. Being excluded or mistreated on account of the fact a person was Catholic was very common in the U.S. because the nation was (and still is) mostly protestant. Read about Bloody Monday, the Philadelphia nativist riots, and the KKK's anti Catholic movement in the 1920s. This is to say bigotry is not just about race.

@universalentity2535

Ай бұрын

@@CoyoteCatalystStill doesn’t mean they weren’t black catholics. A lot of melanated people had Catholicism forced onto them. Still before religion still those people existed and they were melanated. Look up the Twa people. The ancient people of Ireland.

@KevinKenna-wv6qx

Ай бұрын

the black dude in this video thinks he's Irish

@Ian-yd9tl

Ай бұрын

​@CoyoteCatalyst still present in north America to this day, i encounter folks accusing us of idolatry, all sorts of evil, of not being christians, saying we are evil or at least our church is evil which for a catholic is highly offensive, etc that is what i see in more conservative parts of Canada. In more liberal parts we are every phobe and ist under the sun, viewed like devils etc. I imagine in america it must still be strong too.

Had nothing to do with their "whiteness", it was sectarian-based. For those not in the know, Irish people are majority Catholic Christians. When fleeing Ireland because of their actual oppressors in the form of the UK government and the attempted genocide of the Gaelic Irish, they left for foreign lands. Foreign lands that practised the same Protestantism and secratian beliefs as the English did. The KKK hated Irish folk and Italians, because of their Catholicism. It has nothing to do with race, and the racial argument falls apart when you know the actual history. Sincerely, an Irish person.

@ladellg267

2 ай бұрын

Yes, when Kennedy was running for president in the US in 1960 a key concern in Kennedy's campaign was the widespread skepticism among Protestants about his Roman Catholic religion. Some Protestants, especially Southern Baptists and Lutherans, feared that having a Catholic in the White House would give undue influence to the Pope in the nation's affairs. It wasn't skin color.

@evilsclone2499

2 ай бұрын

Shockingly, someone whose not irish still got their history wrong lmao. Good on ya for putting in your two cence. It's nice to have someone from the people being spoken about actually respond.

@SSD_Penumbra

2 ай бұрын

@@ladellg267 On top of this, the Draft Riots in New York during the 1800s were due to the American "nativists", who were White American protestants who viewed the Catholic Irish and Italians, as well as Romani people, Chinese, Indians, English and all kinds of migrants as "invaders" to the American lands. While it did have a lot of racial overtones, the fact remained that these people HATED Irish and Italians on the basis that they were Catholic, not due to their racial identity. Gangs of New York talk about this event.

@johnmitchell4124

2 ай бұрын

Exactly right! I fear many Americans cannot comprehend not viewing things through the race prism.

@FrankGhal

Ай бұрын

KkK wasn't around when they left during the potato famine

My mother (a Jamacian immigrant to the UK ) shared a house with a irish woman when she first came to the UK, for the very policy of " no Irish, no Blacks , no dogs policy. Auntie Leesha was not to be messed with.she would become my Godmother. When i heard overwhelming racist retorts from irish americans i was truly baffled. Rest in peace Mummy and Auntie Leesha❤ I've also lived in Dublin and I have seen and heard how pissed off actual Irish ppl get when they hear some of the bs Irish Americans spout.

@zanthosazure3293

2 ай бұрын

"No Irish, no blacks, no dogs policy," the very same thing that happened in the USA. Depending on the area "no Italian or no Chinese, etc. Etc." Which makes this videos narrative moot. There is no country in existence that did not have racism or slavery. But there are still countries that have and practice slavery in the countries it all originates from. So when Middle Eastern/asian and African countries end slavery. Then we can have an actual talk.

@Mikado_Sannoji

2 ай бұрын

​@@zanthosazure3293THANK YOUUUUU

@1972Ray

Ай бұрын

My parents house here in the US still had it's original paperwork and on the contract it says "No Livestock, No (blacks)". This was rural Maryland in the 40's.

@hevabmore

26 күн бұрын

​@zanthosazure3293 you missed the point of the video. He wasn't denying that others were enslaved or treated as less than others. He was calling out that IN FACT Irish Americans (who some love to other, others) were INDEED othered themselves.

@user-it9fo1ms7n

8 күн бұрын

​@@zanthosazure3293 You missed the point of the video fool

Not familiar with this lad, but "have the day that you deserve" is one hell of a goodbye. Allows you to decide how to take it. I like it.

@TheSuzberry

Жыл бұрын

I liked it a lot.😊

@akwardaro9235

11 ай бұрын

its exellent

@turtlezen4292

11 ай бұрын

lol. I also liked the: "have someone read you the following book".

@jakelong6860

10 ай бұрын

It's in the books! Well documented just look at the history of New York at it's different neighborhoods.

@DougSalad

8 ай бұрын

I worked with a guy who would usually say it as a "sly" insult. My response was always "I always do, but I would hate to have the day YOU deserve.

As an irish american that has spent equal halves of his life in ireland and new york currently living in louth, my experience has been that the true irish dont appreciate their heritage being reduced to a fashion accessory that is often associated with the worst stereotypes ex. Alcoholism. Claiming to be irish and buying into those stereotypes is disingenuous and insulting. Doesnt matter where youre from or who you are itd be like me having asian heritage and walking around with a racist straw hat and squinting my eyes, it’s ridiculous. That’s not to say the irish cant have a laugh and joke about stereotypes but when it becomes the way people perceive the irish generally thats an issue.

@Ejej-zi4vo

Күн бұрын

@@godlessplaytime4256 Alcohol is part of our culture for the past 3000 years We also have some of the lowest rates of Alcohol abuse in Europe So in other words go back to your opium filled tan land 2.0 Your not irish don't tell us anything about this country your a guest nothing worse thana tourist telling us how to be irish.

Bros bouta discover that nationality/ethnicity/culture isn’t always “hey we’re the same colour! Let’s be besties!”

@CHRISTOPHER-nc4gs

25 күн бұрын

Let him go to one of the countries below the Sahara Desert and call himself an African American and they take one look and think one of their coloureds (mule people) is trying to escape. Especially if he goes to The Repubic of Congo (Zaire) I learned that ftom a former co=worker from there. Matadi literally hated so-called black/African Americans and would not even speak to them. I was the only so-called white person he talked to and hungout with at our place of work. He would only work beside me and eat at break time with me.

I know that this wasn't the point of the video, but "have the day you deserve" has now become my favourite phrase

@sweetvictory89

Жыл бұрын

Yessss Mine as well

@the.g9818

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, I love this

@ally939

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it’s so good! I’m really tempted to use it irl sometime

@Heather-fx7sr

Жыл бұрын

Same

@Phoenix.219

Жыл бұрын

Yupp gonna use this instead of have a nice day

"Have someone read you the book...." Lol! such a subtle, yet sharp, jab.

@johnnyguillotine1673

2 жыл бұрын

A no look knock out.

@kalebvick

2 жыл бұрын

Icicle assassination

@4real73

2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to read this book

@4real73

2 жыл бұрын

Help wanted

@mightyfp

2 жыл бұрын

"have the day you deserve" just brutal

I am Irish. This is a ridiculous argument. Anti-Irish sentiment in the British mainland is historically rooted in prejudices stemming from centuries of bloody and violent relations, intense anti-Catholicism (some Irish Catholics were considered unreliable because a Catholic would invariably be more loyal to a Pope than a King) and colonisation. The Irish were often portrayed as ignorant, untrustworthy and lacking in intelligence. Ireland was to be "civilised" in English eyes via colonisation and plantation and that obviously requires a process of "othering" and demonisation. Protestant Irishman such as the Duke of Wellington, Lord Kitchener and Lord Roberts etc. were hugely respected in England (leading the country for example both politically and militarily) but often had to deny their Irishness and ancestry. But they were by and large trusted because they were not Catholic. To suggest these issues were caused by colour is absolute nonsense.

@veronicajean3612

4 ай бұрын

🙌

@archibalddickworth6588

4 ай бұрын

Yeah this is silly. It was never about the Irish being "non white" they were always white. Just treated unfairly for a multitude of other reasons.

@zeo1087

4 ай бұрын

It’s not suggesting Ireland’s oppression has been because of their skin color. The larger context to this video is about how whiteness is entirely made up, because different European ethnicities like Irish who clearly have white skin, have only been somewhat recently included and thought of as being white, instead of being something different and lesser.

@genuinerodent5243

4 ай бұрын

You're literally just explaining racism. "The Irish weren't allowed into British spaces because of the negative stereotypes and stigmas about their people as a whole." Newsflash, that's what racism is!

@tedthecommenter5364

4 ай бұрын

no, your argument im afraid is incorrect. Dont get sensitive when race gets brought up, have you seen the propoganda of the irish being compared to africans and portrayed as monkeys? I am irish also, it is DEEPLY rooted in racism, why do you think we weren't considered "white" when the coffin ships were sent to the US? the british had used propoganda to portray us as non whites unlikes the british who were considered "pure", there is mountains of evidence of this and all it would take is a quick google search ffs

The sign stating "no Irish, no blacks, no dogs" does not necessarily prove discrimination based on skin color. If the intention was solely to exclude individuals because of their blackness, there would be no need to specifically mention no blacks on the sign. The fact that it is listed separately suggests that there may be other factors at play. For example, the Nazis displayed signs proclaiming "no Jews," indicating a potential cultural conflict rather than purely racial discrimination.

@kongvinter33

Ай бұрын

its because the Irish arent Anglo Saxon.

@meditationandhealthyliving9602

Ай бұрын

lmao, nice troll. had me boiling for a second.

@marilynbrown5274

Ай бұрын

My Grandfather came to America...and Breyers Ice Cream...discriminated against him because he was an Irish Catholic. It was a Jewish Company.This...back in the day.

@EBB-kab

Ай бұрын

Yup. It was a reach. The idea is prejudice against catholics, perceived traits and absolutely nowt to do with being white or otherwise. Ridiculous notion. No British person ever thought the Irish were bloody black. The book is actually a notion that Irish immigrants (to America) moved to be more accepted, by taking up American whites prejudice against black people. So....WTF is he talking about.

@JohnKobaRuddy

13 күн бұрын

smh

"Have the day that you deserve" is something im going to start using daily

@fins9584

Жыл бұрын

Have the day that you deserve sounds like a curse actually.

@diaz5925

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@princess7jasmine

Жыл бұрын

God, it's such a good veiled insult.

@leoneranger9348

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it’s a delicious sign off! The tone of that day reflects the attitude of that person, so it really IS their choice.

@UXtatic

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

It's not skin color. It was a calculated decision to exclude those people.

@MusicismoreImportant

6 ай бұрын

Because they were ugly??

@evzevz06

6 ай бұрын

​@@MusicismoreImportant Because they weren't British

@medb8882

6 ай бұрын

This whole video is crazy, but I completely understand. Yes, irish were treated badly. I am a dubliner, but this was about class, not race

@corrinflakes9659

6 ай бұрын

@@evzevz06 Not British is a plus to the Irish.

@tierax8992

6 ай бұрын

@@medb8882exactly 😂their white but we’re lower class and we’re exploexploited

So is the argument that Irish were considered PoC? Because I think that's a modern-ism that does a disservice to the nuance of the issue. They were considered a "lesser race" for sure at the time. But I don't know that they'd have been considered "non-white but not black" in the same way as, say, an Asian or a Latino. I'd actually be interested to hear from someone who knows what's what about anti-Irish sentiments during that time

@user-cw3wm9lx7w

9 күн бұрын

Probably

@lanceelliot9979

3 күн бұрын

you "don't know that they'd have been," but they were. you're doing a disservice to the issue. you can look at the charts comparing irish people to black people, and black people to chimpanzees. the cartoons showing irish as sub-human apes, just like black people. race is a construct. therefore whiteness is a construct. that's why irish weren't white until relatively recently. go read the book instead of being solipsistic in the comment section about it. what you don't know could fill an ocean. same goes for the rest of us.

Love you for bringing it up Most wouldn't belive me if I said it. So thanks for telling them for us

“Have the day that you deserve” I’m gonna just borrow that one

@antwanmitchell6267

Жыл бұрын

Yeah we were better slaves 🤣🤣

@Chase3141

Жыл бұрын

@@antwanmitchell6267 wtf is that supposed to mean?

@antwanmitchell6267

Жыл бұрын

@@Chase3141 👆🏾

@WardNightstone

Жыл бұрын

Yea thats been my favorite new saying

@KillerofGods

Жыл бұрын

But nobody deserves anything... So...

Man, "Have the Day that you deserve" is such a powerful statement.

@silentlyspoken1727

Жыл бұрын

This would be critical piece in the customer service world. Might change people's perspectives about choices they make that day

@liljuggala

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how many people would get offended by that? Is it because, in that moment they realized how horrible they were acting? Or are they too self-critical? Or would they walk off with their heads held high? Under the assumption that the sun shines out of their ass?

@thomasel9171

3 ай бұрын

A weak gust of wind must feel like the end of days to you

As an Irish American I have had this argument with my friends so much. Thank you for making a video a will show it to them!

Nah bro, the Irish were always considered white and clearly are white. They were considered lesser but they were never considered “non white”. They were considered lesser due to political and religious beliefs. Source: Irish person

@JordanWilliams-ix2td

4 ай бұрын

thank you for this...im so tired of people not understanding this lol

@shanchan8247

4 ай бұрын

I've heard actual Irish people say differently. Maybe a difference between Northern born and Southern born? 🤔

@adamchalkley956

4 ай бұрын

@@shanchan8247 They're either misinformed or wrong.

@mrmachine5632

4 ай бұрын

Most actual Irish are in the south so probably 😏

@peadarruane6582

4 ай бұрын

It was beyond religion. The Irish were definitely 'racialised'. They were not viewed as being part of the Teutonic europeans like the Anglo-Saxon or the German, they were viewed as a brutish less human, more ape-like creature. They were never 'not white' but whiteness wasn't the same as it was now. They were viewed as a White Negroid. Look at the way we were depicted in the likes of Punch magazine back in the late 19th, or Just google 'Irish Teutonic Skull' to see the lovely 'scientific' racism directed at the Irish.

Damn, "have the day that you deserve" is an amazing line

@andreiarca3024

Жыл бұрын

It's either the nicest or the coldest thing that can be said to you, and that can only be determined by the person it's being told to, astonishing. I'm stealing it.

@megankibe97

Жыл бұрын

I use it all the time to people

“Have the day you deserve” I’m gonna start using that lol

@dirtydoigler2116

Жыл бұрын

This has a very "Do you wish me a good morning or is it a good morning whether I like it or not" feeling.

@Ave_humanity676

Жыл бұрын

Maybe it has nothing to do with being white in the marriage of your character is what people are actually judging

@dirtydoigler2116

Жыл бұрын

@@Ave_humanity676 MLK's famous words still hold true. And yet they're still a dream.

@RawPup666

Жыл бұрын

Right

@lynzblk

Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t violate any community guidelines on any platform yet it absolutely implies some rude ass shit lol and as it should 💯💯💯 I’ve been saying this for a while now it makes people stop and think “wait a minute… what do they mean by that have the day that I deserve they obviously don’t mean to have a good day or they would’ve said that” it sends ass holes down a rabbit hole that they can’t climb out of 💁🏼‍♀️😂💯🫶🏼

Irish were considered Irish. Discrimination is Discrimination, not sure exactly what's trying to be said here

@Ejej-zi4vo

Күн бұрын

@@mathewhex7045 depends when This is famine immigration there was not irish term we were under british occupation and called British if you were called irish you were usually a rebel to the crown and wanted Irish were not considered white by English British "historians" made up bs about irish migration from the middle east as a way to prove that we can't run our country or have home rule within the UK since in this time it was believed non whites had were savages

No Irish had to do with Irish Catholicism vs British Protestantism. Nothing to do with skin colour. In Ireland we’re not taught to see race in everything as a scapegoat or excuse. It has to do with religious persecution and land ownership. Educate yourself

@no.6377

27 күн бұрын

What he's saying isn't wrong, though. American racism is so weird that the fairest skinned people ever , the Irish, were not considered white at one point. In America.

@lanceelliot9979

3 күн бұрын

false. you need to study more. had nothing to do with religion. you can look at the charts comparing irish people to black people, and black people to chimpanzees. the cartoons showing irish as sub-human apes, just like black people. you're erroneously viewing history through the myopic lens of more recent english imperialism in ireland. the american history of race is much different to what you know, and that's the subject of the video. and now you're closer to understanding that whiteness, like all race, is a construct. he never said skin color. he said whiteness.

"Have someone read you the following book" Sheesh. That one's gonna sting.

@sayba6766

Жыл бұрын

Mhm

@shereeseeverett

Жыл бұрын

That's my favorite part

@lifewasgiventous1614

Жыл бұрын

I mean it does depend on the author their are some bad authors out there ya know

@vanessagilmore5449

Жыл бұрын

I've known way too many people who take pride in never reading a book for that to land as an insult for those kind of people

@thundabearz5092

Жыл бұрын

@@AryanAkane sorry. What?

As a European who took some time to study our history, I learned that it really doesn't matter what your skin color is. In central Europe, we pretty much look the same, yet there was just as much tension between ethnic groups as there was between racial groups in America. What I actually find surprising is that we stopped doing a lot of this, only recently.

@jackietreehorn5561

Жыл бұрын

Ireland was all white and killed each other because of their religion

@thewillof3543

Жыл бұрын

No it doesnt matter about skin color but to argue that europeans especially northern europeans were not white is idiotic northern europeans were white it pisses me off to say otherwise we dont say africans were white becauase its simply not true everyone trys to black wash european culture. Many blacks migrated and were traded to european countries that happened but to say europeans were not white is idiotic

@TheLFCReaper

Жыл бұрын

I actually agree to an extent but what you said isn’t fully true

@dirtyaznstyle4156

Жыл бұрын

In Central Europe you might look the same, but doesn’t that then put an emphasis on skin color when someone that doesn’t look like you comes to town? Brown people would stand out wouldn’t they? From what I recall during my short time in Europe Gypsies kind of stood out because they were a little browner than usual. That’s as best as I could put it… African Hookers… I don’t think people necessarily ignored skin color. There is a difference between ethnic discrimination and racial discrimination in that ethnic groups can be of the same race. But I don’t think I can think of an ethnic group that is multi racial. I don’t think we have progressed that far yet, if you’re African American you’re picking a race for example even if you’re mixed. In Europe it seems it matters what color your skin is if immigrants have become part of the labor force… just saying

@Nerobyrne

Жыл бұрын

@@dirtyaznstyle4156 what I meant is that if we don't divide by colour, we divide by something else. Skin colour is just easier to see.

There's a reason for the Irish policeman stereotype and for so many famous Irish Americans in politics. My mother's father was police officer in Masssachusetts and his uncle was a Massachusetts state senator from South Boston for the reasons you said. They had to work within the system that excluded them to change the system.

They were called black because of the dark hair and dark eyes that mixed into the celtic gene pool from northern france and spain , Iberian Celtics.

Something I just recently learned, in addition to African-Americans many sundown towns included Irish individuals amongst the ones that should not be found inside towns after sundown.

@Bekind94

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. True.

@hippyjoe

2 жыл бұрын

As recent as the 80s, too. My old man was driven out of Zephyrhills.

@Merkyaself1917

2 жыл бұрын

They're still around

@ZEBEEtheoriginal

2 жыл бұрын

The Irish and Scottish were some of the cruelest overseers of the enslaved in the U.S. and the Caribbean. It's not all or nothing. The U.S had more of a CASTE system but the Irish were able to navigate it to their White skinned advantage every generation, *though in different permutations.* Later generations were not as welcome as earlier. Remember, the concept if WHITENESS was new as well. SO MANY PLANTERS were of Irish decent and were the wealthiest families in the U.S. pre-Industrialization. The story is not as simple as many would like to make it.

@seanm7539

2 жыл бұрын

@@hippyjoe Zephyrhills Florida

Omg..thank you for saying this...when I went where my ancestors came from, I got to see a monument built by the Irish to Native Americans as a thanks for them sending money and food even though they had so little also. It never takes away from a groups struggle to acknowledge the struggle of another group. ❤️

@SImonDeLikaeble

Жыл бұрын

I pass that monument every week. Is this is the one near Midleton? Yes, the Indian tribe donated food during the famine , even though they so little themselves. It’s a lovely monument. Must look up which tribe it was.

@smallfeet4581

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but Ireland had a lot of Spanish and basque in it , the Basque left the east central Asia area to Spanish and French mountain area then on west ward with a lot in USA Mexico and South America , the reason that those signs were there was jobs , an old aunt told me the Irish got it when they came and the Italian and the polish after the war , coming to take take the jobs , which was true in a way , dagger John tells a story of Irish going on the boat to USA and the women had to sleep sitting up or a man would be on them , if you watch far and away it tells the same story dagger John does that the Irish were drunks , he became a priest to help them change their ways and gain jobs and better themselves , of course not all were like that , but today South Africa is not letting anyone in even other Africans because they don't have the jobs for their own , sign says no foreigners no wht's no blks , we have enough , 😂 ,

@muireannmc1056

Жыл бұрын

During covid there was a donation from Irish people to Native American tribes that gave to us during the famine. It was something like 2.5 million euro. We have never forgotten that kindness.

@wiccanmoon0001

Жыл бұрын

The kindness love support and solidarity, your people showed mine, is the very reason me and my family are alive. That kindness that was given, even after the hardships your people suffered over, the trail of tears, will never be forgotten. My children know our history and so will there’s. The food they got, the men gave to the women and children so they would survive. Our family will be forever grateful to your people.

@DavidMcDermott-lg5yo

Жыл бұрын

​@@smallfeet4581im Celtic not Spanish, not Mexican or black or arab or asian stop the hate you feel for my country, my people. Bad enough that your people tried to exterminate us and it wasn't about jobs its because when you enslaved us you had the firm intention of putting us all in the grave. We have nothing in common you and i you're rich born that way always will be. At least the indigenous peoples of the United States not Mexican's who helped us in our time of need ask yourself why a real Irishman hates you. Ask yourself how different we are. Im not protestant just so you know. Im from the north of Ireland. Strabane.

"Yank" is short for Yankee, which is a shortening of Swamp Yankee meaning English or English descent in the northeast US/ New England.

The sign in question was from the 1980s, the no Irish has nothing to do with us thinking their a different race, it is related to the ongoing war at the time, also there’s no evidence to prove the sign ever even existed except from that one picture of unknown origin, no English, northern Irish or Irish history banks have it logged, you can research this if you would like

I’m studying to be a history professor and this is one of the things I find most interesting. Ethnicities that used to be tied to specific nations, (Irish, Italian, Greek, etc) are now all just “White.” I’m not sure where this change occurred, but it’d be interesting to look into.

@NB-nh2sf

Жыл бұрын

The change is America. It's why the Chinese sued to be white and win. It was a caste status .. one black ppl could never have

@ballershanelle

Жыл бұрын

because that declare it. Say it enough. U believe it

@rell127

Жыл бұрын

Mainly because they wanted to seperate the Black people and other people's of color with them in the 1910's.

@sweetcakz5810

Жыл бұрын

Easy look at the non-white white people and the time period that they mass immigrated into this country, they wasn't going to get adopted into the white republic until they understood and participated in the white supremacy systems in this country.

@stttttipa

Жыл бұрын

I found it rather baffling to hear from some americans that race and ethnicity are the same thing. Could you explain how that came to be?

"have someone read to you" was the most savage, yet subtle dig I've heard all week.

@haveyouflossedtoday

7 ай бұрын

See, and I heard it as a childish quip.

@Rays_Bad_Decisions

7 ай бұрын

Ya it's pretty typical for liberals that struggle to explain their insane beliefs. Like this guy's inability to comprehend the difference between Irish prejudice and being white...

@EseEsKaliman

7 ай бұрын

People in the US these days try so hard to be "unique" or "different" by acting like they're from a different culture when they are mainly american and don't know the history of the culture they try imitating. Like Mexican Americans, African Americans, Irish Americans, Italian Americans etc.

@ThatHawksSimp

6 ай бұрын

@@haveyouflossedtodaydid you feel called out? Lol

@rodericblack4657

5 ай бұрын

Yeah a real savage dig from a guy who himself clearly isn't that smart because he's completely, totally wrong on the Irish not being considered white.

The Irish were not considered white at first, but damn did they accept it when offered.

@RonSill1986

2 ай бұрын

They considered themselves whiter than white.

@rustywenzlawe6287

Ай бұрын

This was a hilarious and needed comment

@rachelfox8108

Ай бұрын

And this is exactly why Irish Americans who raise their heritage as a defence because they "weren’t considered white" don't get much benefit of the doubt from me: Irish Americans "became" white by actively participating in anti-Black racism, particularly by selling their labour for less in order to get Black workers let go and driven out of work. Irish Americans, historically, have no innocence to plead on this.

@chifleming6132

Ай бұрын

The Irish immigrants chose to be American. Do you consider Americans to be white?

@justinscott60

Ай бұрын

@@chifleming6132 Go away troll.

Thank you!! The rage that comes over me when some yank claims to have experienced what it is to be Irish is just dangerous at this point… 😅 They’re like weird pick-me’s for a country they’ve only see on TV. Please…sit down with your 2% 😒

@veronicajean3612

4 ай бұрын

One thing we can say the improved diet and sunshine has improved Irish people looks. Thank goodness for that.funniest looking people I ever saw was in Ireland. Yet many of my American Irish friends and family are very attractive

"Have someone read you this book"! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Dear Sir, you have the ability to throw overt shade so subliminally. I thought I was good at that but YOU'RE THE G.O.A.T!

@the4cqueen148

Жыл бұрын

That was some damn good shade! 😅👍😂👍🤣👍👍👍

@Im-From-the-stars

Жыл бұрын

@@rauminen4167 Not celebrating, Educating people to understand that many people who think they are white (and might be prejudiced) will see where they really came from and how hard their Ancestors lives were, it's showing history, and I believe hopefully bringing people together.

@Im-From-the-stars

Жыл бұрын

@@rauminen4167 You got me wrong, but thanks for trying ✨️

@dragonflies6793

Жыл бұрын

That and "have the day you deserve". So good

@Im-From-the-stars

Жыл бұрын

@rowdyjr2318 Have no idea what you are talking about, but thanks for playing 😊

"Have someone to read you the book" has gotta be the best insult ever.

@malikzakir9224

2 жыл бұрын

Thought I was the only one who caught that.

@americanbookdragon

Жыл бұрын

“Have the day that you deserve.” Instead of “Have a nice day.”

@milosevicmihajlo499

Жыл бұрын

It would be if the guy was right 🤣🤣 he is a tipe of guy who would say cleopatra or jesus where as black as him

@josephdestaubin7426

Жыл бұрын

@@milosevicmihajlo499 I don't think the quality of the insult has anything to do with the correctness or incorrectness of his statements. Also, it's not wrong about the Irish.

@milosevicmihajlo499

Жыл бұрын

@@289rory you and this guy are mixing racism toward ethnicity and race

Thank you my cousin told me how they practically erased Irish and Scottish heritage when we came to the americas to escape war

You are one of the few people I've ever seen addressing how the people of this island were treated in history. Irish were also used as slaves. My hair is naturally red and curly and my eyes are green. I do tan but apparently I don't have a European head shape, the rest of my family do. I have no clue about my dna. But I resemble my dad so I'm not a Cuckoo in the nest lol!

"Have the day you deserve" is universal. It's like a bless you/fuck you,depending on the person you're dealing with. I'm gonna use it more often.

@eelamite

Жыл бұрын

its also funny af ngl lol

@georgewilliamson5667

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of "bless your heart." Sounds nice, but in the most condescending way possible

"Now have the day that you deserve". Damn, that's a great way to finish talking with literally anyone

thanks for this one, I'm Irish and Chinese-Jamaican from Canada... people really arent knowing about this stuff... I heard they only really gave us relative rights to stop us rising up together with the Black workers and others, pre or post-abolition I dont remember... They still call us lazy drunks, but apparently its all just fun... same with our resistance against 800 years of persecution and occupation at the turn of the century... they called us terrorists, they still do if you listen closely, but you gotta know the history to understand... this is why we stand with Gaza, real authentically proud Irish people stand with you, and all historically and currently oppressed and persecuted peoples around the world... Peace!!!!! 🇨🇦🇮🇪🇯🇲

“ have someone read you the following book” is mad disrespectful. He called you illiterate.

@nna1800

Күн бұрын

Yep, and that book is also written by an anti white socialist/ marxist.

"have the day that you deserve" I'm going to use that a lot!!! Love it

@josephibarra943

Жыл бұрын

for real because just imagine someone who knows they're being an asshole and you tell them that they'll flip out.

@loreeaugustine6226

Жыл бұрын

And they should. But also think of the people who are kind and considerate, but get walked on by others every day....it makes US smile and feel better!!!

I have spent some time reading old newspapers from New York from the 1850s - 1880s for a research project. In the "Help Wanted" sections, wealthy people would place ads looking for cooks or servants, and they would frequently specify that they were looking for a "reliable Protestant girl". This was the "genteel" way to discriminate against Irish immigrants, because the vast majority of Irish immigrants to America were Catholic.

@kevwhufc8640

6 ай бұрын

Reliable protestant girl ,, ? So not because they were considered reliable but because they didn't want a catholic girl. Thsts sad people discriminating because of their religion. Protestant or catholic, both are Christian and supposed to love one another... Especially when ya think about it like , 500 or so years ago , before protestantism came along EVERY Christian was a catholic .. 2000 years of christianity, for 1500 of them everyone was catholic. In those last 500 years since Protestantism started, its separated into many different forms of what a protestant is . ...religion is so hypocritical.. I'm English born but half Irish ( ma) i had many school holidays with family in Ireland , during the 60s 70s , when people were shooting or blowing each other up because protestant hated catholic and catholic hated protestants... Poxy religion...

@ChrisBarsby-ll3ny

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂irish people are white...simple...Anglo british tension is mainly a religious thing certainly nothing to do with race..and is a dog a race? The irish know all about oppression.. the irish are proud fighting people so they tend not to sit around waiting for handouts and demanding they get reparations for a very select period of history..

@gosonegr

6 ай бұрын

@@kevwhufc8640well, no, Catholics didn’t hate Protestants and you had no problems in the Republic (besides de IRA who was already prosecuted by the Garda), it was the other way around, no Catholic Irish was able to go to NI and have no troubles, so much that people used to leave cars parked before the border fearing their cars getting torched.

@kevwhufc8640

6 ай бұрын

@@gosonegr how old are you ? What do you even know about Ireland , real life I mean, & not some nonsense propaganda you've read . Do you really think they were all best buddies ? That the Irish catholic loved the orange parades & all joined in the fun with the protestants !! Just from what you've said you obviously don't know anything about it. What do you mean Catholics couldn't go to northern Ireland ? You've obviously never been, otherwise you would have seen the curb stones painted in the Republican colours and the sides/ ends of houses with huge images of IRA soldiers with a machine gun and slogans, it was the same in the loyalist area curbs painted , houses with images and slogans, People outside Ireland think those terror groups are gone, disappeared since the GFPA, but they haven't, they might not be as high profile, not bombing or killing, kidnapping, but they both run protection rackets, control drugs, and other criminal activities.

@gosonegr

6 ай бұрын

@@kevwhufc8640 I live in Ireland, not far from where the long fella was born in fact, and, yes, for around two centuries there were no problem and there were protestants fighting in the republican side during the independence war, Sam Maguire was the one who recruited Michael Collins, Same with Casement who had family in Mallow. Anyway, there were, and are, tons of Protestant church in the republic. Look, even the protestants lose family during the famines, were recruiting by the dozen to fight in British wars and had really rough times under British mandate, it wasn't just a catholic thing, even tho it was specially hard on them, the protestants suffered their shit So, as a half Irish and English born, and I assume you took your education in the UK , you better don't talk shit when they called open fire on civilians "the troubles" and the great famine as some sort of accident

It’s an ethic and religious division not racism. Irish and English are the same race. Same skin colour. White skin is irrelevant.

I’m Irish and have travelled At what point does white stop being white. Seems that today because of BLM and the likes (that attacked blacks n whites alike) anything even suntanned is black for fear of being called a racist or a white supremacist. I played in an Irish folk group on tour in Germany. We played at big venue full of American military. We played everything we could to get their attention. We weren’t getting the attention until our accordion player/singer sang an un accompanied solo song “ The shores of my native land “. It was about forced emigration from Ireland 🇮🇪. The silence that came on the place was awesome and the applause and cheers was huge. Trays of schnapps Guinness and gratitude followed. It was amazing the reaction. Some never set foot in Ireland but still could relate to what Irish immigrants to USA 🇺🇸 had gone through. ☘️🇮🇪🇺🇸🇮🇪🇺🇸🇮🇪🇺🇸🇮🇪☘️

It’s mostly had to do with in the USA, we recognize “race” as in whether or not you have melanin, and sometimes where geographically where you were born. Other countries for centuries didn’t always see it that way. It was more about cultural, religion, geographical, and many other determinations. Wasn’t always just by the color of one’s skin.

@prowlprime

Жыл бұрын

It’s still not just about skin color. Some people want to make it simply about skin color for their own purposes. “Whiteness” itself is a social construct and moreso refers to a set of cultural values and belief systems rather than simply skin color. It’s always more complex than skin color alone. And this didn’t start in the US.

@demonheart13

Жыл бұрын

My husband is white and I'm black, don't want kids but I do wander what they would consider themselves. In my experience people don't generally consider themselves mixed,probably because it's so vague. Mixed with what? White and black, Hispanic and Asian, Hawaiian and Jamaican???

@melemetcalf1681

Жыл бұрын

@@demonheart13 it not only depends on the individual, but it depends on who you are talking to as well. Mixed race to a lot of black people mean mixed with black and white. I'm mixed race. My father is primarily Scottish and my mother is from the Kingdom of Tonga. She's very much of a darker skin color. But many black people do not consider me a person of color even though white people do not consider me white. It's very tough being "brown" these days.

@ibuprofriends

Жыл бұрын

@@melemetcalf1681 "these days" lmao it's been difficult since the first biracial person was born.

@davespringer777

Жыл бұрын

@@demonheart13 I've never met a mixed (white/black) person that's referred to themselves as white. It's always have been either black or (less frequently) milado. Even when black is mixed with Asian, the preferred identification is usually black.

Yes! The history of the Irish is not a pretty one.

@mogscugg2639

2 жыл бұрын

Luck of the irish :(

@Ova-bv4os

2 жыл бұрын

We were stuck on an island next to the world worst colonisers.we were so thouroughly erased and colonised that we struggle to seperate our culture's except for a few hold overs such as a modernised interpretation of our music and dance. But everything else is lost. The food the clothes the socioeconomic culture, the true language, all gone

@mogscugg2639

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ova-bv4os may Erin forever go Bragh at Britain's expense

@Shadoefax760

2 жыл бұрын

Slavery, funny considering that apparently white men invented slavery to oppress blacks in America & hold them down & continue to do so to this day according to blacks.

@plamoretti673

2 жыл бұрын

After suffering so much, are the irish racist? I've heard that racism is prevalent in Ireland.

Jealousy is everywhere..I'm Irish and love Irish American people..a Irish Man built the white house and a Irish man founded the US navy... this Man is a envious person.

I’m half Irish half Scottish with black family members … we are all human I’m fed up of race bating 😱

If I remember my history correctly, Irish and blacks lived in the same places, therefore there was a lot of mixed couples happening, it’s why some black people have last names like “McCoy”. It wasn’t the “masters” name, it was legit Irish and black people marrying one another, during one of the worst times for Irish folk,

@americanbookdragon

Жыл бұрын

Some black people also just named themselves whatever sounded pretty to them. Not everyone wanted their old slave masters last name. I wouldn’t rely on last names for heritage with black peoples from the United States when it was either cast away or ripped away from them in so many instances.

@bogustoast22none25

Жыл бұрын

@@americanbookdragon Some. Not all. It’s also further proven by black people with red hair.

@katydublin4894

Жыл бұрын

@@bogustoast22none25 but the red hair isn’t an “Irish” trait. The red hair came with the Vikings, Danes or whatever you would like to call them who actually took over most of Irelands port cities starting in the late 700s and on. They actually did a study that showed the areas of Ireland that the Vikings settled in had higher number of red haired men and their DNA showed they had Norwegian in them! Scotland and England have as well. And fun fact the only other place that has a comparable percentage of red heads is Scandinavia! Also another fun fact is they believe red hair came about because the lack of vitamin d!

@MDPToaster

Жыл бұрын

@@bogustoast22none25 Red hair is found in a lot of phenotypes, it’s just the most common in the Irish and Scotts.

@SylverScourge

Жыл бұрын

@@americanbookdragon yep, my grandfather is a first generation born free man. He is an irish descending black man. His father was from ireland, his mother was a freed slave. My mother was born with red hair and freckles and brown skin. She's truly beautiful and I love her very much, at least good can come from the bad.

"have someone read you the following book" so savage. What a masterclass on throwing shade.

@ADogNamedStay

Жыл бұрын

Audio books because you're doing other things. Like making money.

@obanjespirit2895

Жыл бұрын

@@ADogNamedStay ??what is even a point of this comment?

@nicholewojtanowski43

Жыл бұрын

@@ADogNamedStay I can GUARANTEE that is NOT what, “have someone read you the following book” was meant to imply. To spell it out, politely telling the commenter (that “knew” that Irish were always considered white (to the point of laughing at “RedMenace80”) strictly because they are “of the fairest skinned gene pool) to “have someone read you the following book” is meant to imply 1 of 2 things about the commenter. They are either: 1. not old enough to read and therefore are in need of someone else to read and explain the book to this young Irish American. - OR - 2. That the Irish-American is obviously not capable of reading and/or understanding an adult level, non-fiction book such as “How the Irish Became White.” so they should ask someone capable of such reading and understanding to Read the book TO THEM. Mature people can often have polite sounding conversations that, when listened to closely, are NOT actually polite.

@susanyounger3914

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholewojtanowski43 ] l

@persephonel2117

Жыл бұрын

Savage? That’s so racist.

😅😅😅 he said, "Have someone read you these books!" Savage!😅😅

My red headed grandmother was born in 1904 in Mankato Minn. Her mother used tar soap daily on her hair to make it look brown. 😢 In the 1920’s she chopped it all off in anger. I was given her 3 foot long braid of hair to remember her by.

@goals27

Ай бұрын

Why she wanted them to be brown instead of red

"have the day that you deserve." its only shade if you sittin under the tree LAAAWWD

@roisin33

Жыл бұрын

Now, that’s a good one 😂

@peacheyearth

10 ай бұрын

😂

Thank you so much brother ❤ I'm Irish, I'm a dub (from Dublin 💪) and we were persecuted for years under British rule. It was illegal for us to speak our language, own land, practice our religion, keep our Gaelic names or work for ourselves under colonisation. We were considered slaves and our country was under British rule for 800 years until we fought back and used guerilla warfare to claim our land back. This was an oppressed country, kept under rule and literally living in third world conditions until we fought back. Northern Ireland was considered a war zone up until the mid 90's. We were treated like shit, had our land taken off us, petty criminals were shipped off to Australia to be sent to jail.......sent across the world, in one case for stealing potatoes cos the child was facing starvation. We know slavery, we know colonisation, we know discrimination and we fucking fought tooth and nail to be able to call ourselves Irish 🇮🇪❤🇮🇪❤🇮🇪❤🇮🇪

@canoewithmeat

Жыл бұрын

I do have Irish heritage but there is no way in hell I’m claiming the culture or anything. Y’all spelling is way to stupid. The rest of it is very cool (especially the history) but that spelling. Mmmm yah nah thanks. Edit: made the AA meeting mad lol.

@thesteelecrusader7778

Жыл бұрын

Testing

@zainabmejja9936

Жыл бұрын

Sending love ♥️♥️

@lbec9487

Жыл бұрын

@@canoewithmeat *TOO stupid not to stupid And you’re complaining about other people’s spelling??😂

@ericolens3

Жыл бұрын

When you say "90s" I hope you dont mean 1990s, but i hope you mean 1890s. Please mean 1890s. Please.

My first Irish ancestor in America was exiled by Cromwell into slavery in Barbados. Within a short period of time, the British outlawed slavery but left the humans they had kidnapped and exiled without any way to return home. My ancestor was able to be placed into indentured servitude with a merchant from Massachusetts, hence he was the first Irish Catholic in Massachusetts.

@RonSill1986

2 ай бұрын

Kidnapped? Are you sure he wasn't a prisoner?

@lee02jepson

Ай бұрын

@@RonSill1986 Prisoner / kidnapped kind of the same thing as the laws then were harsh, steal a loaf of bread = 7 yrs hard labor. Who knows what his "crime' was, fighting for his homeland? thats not a crime, after losing should be allowed to go back to his family. But being sold into slavery isn't that kidnapping? I think it is.

@RonSill1986

Ай бұрын

@lee02jepson nope. Prisoners aren't kidnapped. Were the English Prisoners kidnapped too?

@RonSill1986

Ай бұрын

@@lee02jepson the Irish enslaved Britons for centuries before they were colonised. St Patrick himself was a slave taken by Irish raiders. One could call it karma.

@ATLmodK

Ай бұрын

@@RonSill1986 is it even possible that that morally balances Cromwell’s cruelty along with the other cruelties that 800 years of colonization brought on Irish people ☘️💚🇮🇪

a lot of what modern woke kids and race-baiters miss from understanding historical contexts is a lot of wars and anti-colonial revolutions weren't a color or race thing but had religious vs secular, theocracy vs kingdom undertones to them.

@azzybrellick8830

Ай бұрын

Nuance is not in their playbook. Only literal black and white thinking.

@KevinKenna-wv6qx

Ай бұрын

The black dude in this video thinks hes Irish

@decaydjk8922

28 күн бұрын

You're all idiots

"Now have the day you deserve." Is my new favorite ☺️🙌🏿

@lisafranklin9089

Жыл бұрын

I know, I love it, love it!!

As a full blood irish an I can say much of the frustration comes Americans of irish ancestry claiming our nationality and culture yet perpetuating negitave stereotypes without understanding why they exist, I love my American Irish folk but your culture is not the same

@mogscugg2639

2 жыл бұрын

We basically commercialized our own culture to eke out a living under people who hated us, just like the Italians Except italian-american cuisine is actually good

@nightamiamy

2 жыл бұрын

Look up Appalachian culture. It's where my Irish American family is from and from what I can tell a lot of the culture naturally passed on generations and simply was Americanized. It was also fairly isolated which makes it a pretty interesting case. I didn't really realize this till my Papaw and I sat down for a family report when I was much older. Interesting stuff.

@MiloManning05

2 жыл бұрын

@@nightamiamy there northern Irish

@nightamiamy

2 жыл бұрын

@@MiloManning05 That would be a nope. We can trace our line through DNA and documentation back to when we left. Apparently our family all came from Cork, so further South.

@MiloManning05

2 жыл бұрын

@@nightamiamy swear

True. Also Irish children were sent to Jamaica as indentured servants.

My early American Irish ancestors changed the spelling of the name Bodkin to Botkins because the latter sounded more German.

I have Irish and Italian ancestry, and I've always felt it unnecessary to say anything about any discrimination my ancestors went through. Because you're right. There's no point having that conversation with people who refuse to be educated about it. I love your videos and the context they give. ❤️

@gg-mercenary7104

2 жыл бұрын

Ouch. Not what people want too hear.

@krystalrose5874

2 жыл бұрын

I'm Irish and Italian too! Although my skin tone absolutely leans toward the Irish side I don't tan I only burn and I burn within 10 minutes of being out in the sun

@moonwolfdancer1103

2 жыл бұрын

"Never argue with an idiot, people might not be able to tell the difference"

@austinsatterfield4981

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, if people knew history they would hate the left wing party

@jussayinmipeece1069

2 жыл бұрын

Just a subtle point here . The Irish are and have always been WHITE. The only discerning quality was ACCENT.!!! Once an Irish person lost his accent or his defendants no longer aquire that Irish accent there was no way to differentiate so you all cut the crap. People have always and will always find reasons to discriminate against each other but to try and deminish the plight of blacks and the slavery experience by saying oh we had the same issues is total fuckery and you know it. A black person will be black no matter his accent . Once an Irish or an Italian loses that accent he's just another whitebperson. Italians my be a bit darker but still white and nobody questions that unless you make an issue vof it yourself

Proud of my heritage. People don’t talk about the mistreatment of the Irish , and most laugh it off because they only see skin deep. Mom and my grandparents came here just like anyone else, and had to work hard to get what they have. Be proud of your people, skin colour means nothing.

@Eringobragh2024

Жыл бұрын

Skin colour means nothing? So black lives don't matter?

@Zeke214_

8 ай бұрын

Tell that to the white ppl here In America

@nerfgunner2327

8 ай бұрын

@@Zeke214_ discourse is non existent here.

@kevwhufc8640

8 ай бұрын

The Irish side of my family migrated to England, the USA, but many remain in Ireland. The Irish were treated worse than many countries, our land taken, people forced to leave , Cromwell and others tried stopping Catholicism, replacing Irish with English protestants. ,,leading to uprisings which resulted in more punishment such as being transported to Australia, Propaganda against catholic Irish from ruling classes made out we were subhuman, using derogatory terms such as black Irish Which has nothing to do with skin colour, it originates from the fuel most people used , peat , cut from dirty black smelly peat bogs , hence the term "black as bog" ... Hardly anyone talks about how terribly the Irish were treated. But everyone who's black goes on about slavery even tho it ended long before the Irish finally got some form of peace just q few years ago. Leading to pro catholic Irish such as the IRB , then later the IRA And fighting protestant loyalists such as the UDF UVF ,bombing and killing each other.

@bcfly65

7 ай бұрын

​@@Zeke214_Tell that to the blacks here! Everything is black & white with a lot of them but not all blacks.

Nothing to do with skin colour at all, but misunderstanding of our native language. Gaelic is an expressive language unlike English which is a descriptive language. Therefore confusion arises with translation from Gaelic to English. The Gaelic for black is Dubh, and when referred to as a person or place meant "dark, or evil intentions" etc, the capital of Ireland is Dublin and originally meant "Black pool" as a pool of water that is dangerous. If referring to the skin colour of a black man for example the words are "Fear Gorm" which actually means "blue man"

"No Irish need apply" and "No Irish wanted" was printed on most if not all job adverts in newspapers in Perth, Western Australia in 2009! Some Australians in Perth were cool but Ive never felt so alienated in my life living there

My Jamaican gran is 73 and moved to London in the early 60s. She remembers seeing those signs.

@lp879

Жыл бұрын

There has always been an alignment between the Caribbean and Ireland, especially Montserrat❤

"Have someone read you the book-" OOF, need some ointment for that burn?

@ADogNamedStay

Жыл бұрын

I have people read to me all the time, in audible. Mostly because I'm too busy doing other things, like making money.

@aesinam

Жыл бұрын

@@ADogNamedStay why are you so pressed by that statement that you have to reply under so many comments?

@leonie8525

Жыл бұрын

@@ADogNamedStay uh huh. That's not what he means with that comment. But go off I guess.

@persephonel2117

Жыл бұрын

Do you actually believe this dude read this book? He didn’t. He just googled it so he could sound smart.

@leonie8525

Жыл бұрын

@@persephonel2117 He hasn't actually. I'm British and have seen exhibits about this in museums. Irish were treated as lesser blood due to their ancestry. Anglo-Saxons looked down on those of Celtic blood, which Irish and Scots were/are.

I was always under the impression that most Americans of Irish descent knew this. I'm an Ulster Scot, and even i knew it.

As a red headed person, I assure you that I’m not Irish or have an Irish background. This is from my Scandinavian ancestors. Stereotypes suck. I would be proud to be Irish but I’m not so I don’t want to misrepresent the heritage.

"Have the day that you deserve " ... this going to be said by me on a routine basis from now on

@toriladybird511

Жыл бұрын

I say it as a polite FU to rude folk.. I wish nice folk a lovely day or evening.

As an American Irish person who's family is in America because of that oppression and suffered more of it once they arrived and has taken the time to educate myself on my heritage, thank you so much for this! Too often do I try to have a conversation about this topic with people and I get shut down because I'm white. It's frustrating so I'm very thankful for creators like you bringing more light to this!! Makes my heart happy!

@bean6047

Жыл бұрын

I get it! I don’t want to be a victim or reparations or anything like that; but it’s a crime to even make a joke “oh irish aren’t really even human” as to refer to how we used to be treated because there’s a conspiracy to hide that fact. Not only is it not taught in schools anywhere; but people get angry or mock you and treat you as stupid for stating historical facts. It really doesn’t make sense to me at all. I don’t even want empathy for it or to talk about how I’m oppressed; just the ability to comment on it myself without being verbally brutalized.

@kahlilboi

Жыл бұрын

@@bean6047 the Irish were were racist as hell towards blacks , and engaged in anti black riots, anti black violence as well as oppressing blacks.

@TheAwesomes2104

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it's so disheartening to be shut down because I'm very white passing, but do not identify as white. I've been bashed multiple times for it and told it doesn't matter what my ancestry is because pale-blonde-blue-eyed today = White. My heritage is, as far as we have any record, Irish and Cherokee. Yet, if I don't identify as white and white alone, people seem to get all up in arms. I can acknowledge that I have privileges that many do not by passing as white today while not ignoring the hardships my ancestors endured and the generational poverty we were subjected to from not being considered white (My predominantly Irish county is still the third poorest county out of 3,143 in the US today.) Some people interpret me not claiming whiteness as me claiming to be equally disadvantaged as Black and Brown people in the US today, but that's not what it's about at all. It's about honouring the truth and experiences of my ancestors while expressing solidarity with other marginalized groups and acknowledging that race has and always will be a social construct. To claim whiteness today feels like spitting in the face of my ancestors, especially the Native American side whose melanin I happened not to inherit. I've even been told it's cultural appropriation for me to grow my hair and braid it for cultural and spiritual reasons when both my Mawmaws, my Great Grandma, dad and Pawpaw, all having done the same, all because I inherited specifically the colouration of it from my non-white Irish family. It's really sad to see my acknowledgment, appreciation, and hand reached out in solidarity twisted into a divisive, wannabe victim, not-like-the-other-whites narrative. I will not take on the "race" of my ancestors' oppressors that they used to divide and dehumanise us, and I don't have to in order to fully acknowledge that my appearance alone does come with great privileges in this country today.

@michaelc225

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAwesomes2104 but you where born in America and raised there your American you may have Irish ancestry but YOU haven't faced the hardships of being Irish you have not been persecuted like the northern Irish have that's the difference

@bean6047

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAwesomes2104 what about tailor trash white folk with abusive mom and absent dad, lol. Those people have more privelage than you because their ansestors had to work night and day on farms just to keep from starving to death?

My family came over from Ireland as late as my paternal great grandmother, she escaped a horrid marriage. A great deal of Irish Americans fail to see just how poorly the Irish where truly treated

It just shocks me how little people actually know about their ancestral history..or just history in general 💀

As an Irish person who makes his living doing walking tours for American tourists, I'm pleasantly surprised to hear you say EXACTLY what I've often desperately wanted to scream at some of my groups. The suffering inflicted on your ancestors is no excuse to perpetuate that which other people are still suffering, especially if you personally are so far removed from that suffering that you can afford a transatlantic flight, a four star hotel and a private tour guide. Cheers for this, Sunn.

@JakeMckay1738

Жыл бұрын

My parents moved here to the United states about a month before I was born. Sláinte from Kentucky 🇮🇪🇺🇸

@johngillespie3409

7 ай бұрын

​@@JakeMckay1738your American to them. America Go Bragh 🇺🇲

@a.sapphic.Magnus.Chase.

5 ай бұрын

@@johngillespie3409 that’s colonised Irish lol. Go bréa would be the Gaeilge way to spell it Just a small correction, not trying to be rude!

@blackpearl09101

5 ай бұрын

Exaclty, I wish you cloud be my tour person, when I will visit Ireland.

@Me-hf4ii

5 ай бұрын

I’m 3rd generation Irish American with family still in Ireland. Several of them have visited us. I have always wished to visit them, and the family farm we still have from the 1300s… but haven’t been able to afford it. Moving to America lost my family so much and caused deep scars that we still carry. I don’t fault my grandparents for their decision. And I’m happy I have my husband and children. But I’m not free in America. None of my family acts free. Everyone acts chained and scarred - but still happy and moving forward because that’s the Irish spirit… My Irish relatives on the other hand, they act free and untethered. They have the history of standing and fighting and winning against the Black and Tans and every other incursion - where my side has the shame of running and coming to the country of false promises and battling overt anti-Irish racism…

As an Irish American this bothers me too. I wrote my dissertation on how there was cross pollination between black civil rights leaders and Irish Republican leaders. Thank you for making this video! Fun thing, I’m learning Irish right now and during the George Floyd protests a bunch of Irish American cops inadvertently wore shirts saying Black Lives Matter because they thought it was blue lives matter in Irish. But it read blue men lives matter which is Irish for black people because in Irish black was considered a shade of blue. My friend speaks Irish fluently and confirmed this to me when I asked him.

@norathibodeau1691

Жыл бұрын

Your friend doesn’t speak Irish. And the language has not called Irish. It’s called Gaelic.

@ArchangelAva

Жыл бұрын

The Irish for black is ‘dubh’ and the devil is called ‘fear dubh’ which means ‘black man’. Obviously they’re weren’t going to call actual black men the same term as we use for devil so it’s became ‘fear gorm’ which is ‘blue man’.

@ArchangelAva

Жыл бұрын

@@norathibodeau1691 It’s called Irish.

@WhisperingEcho33

Жыл бұрын

Ahhhh Fear Gorm

@WhisperingEcho33

Жыл бұрын

@@norathibodeau1691 no sweetie, they are two different languages lmfaooo

This is very true. I've married into an Irish American family that came to the U.S. in the early 1900's and had to deal with this. But his family was also called black Irish which of course made them even less than the average Irish.

“Have someone read you the following book” Oh the SHADE!!! SAVAGE!!!💀💀💀

My favorite thing to disprove the concept of “whiteness” as scientific fact or “white culture” is that Ben Franklin thought Germans were “too swarthy” to be considered white.

@neeadevil4840

Жыл бұрын

Wait what, yeah I'm German and can't for the life of me, wrap my head around that. I have questions..

@Exgrmbl

Жыл бұрын

@@neeadevil4840 He also thought the same about the Swedes. In his eyes it was probably pink-skinned englishmen=white. It also exemplifies that even exceptionally smart and competent people can have really silly ideas.

@neeadevil4840

Жыл бұрын

@@vendetta314dagoddess hard to put into words really, but it seems to be decided randomly who is considered white or not. Why just why? Oh and when you are not considered white but definitely not black what are you then? Chopped liver?

@neeadevil4840

Жыл бұрын

@@Exgrmbl I see some similarities to the rather stupid idea of the Arian race.

@ststst981

Жыл бұрын

@@vendetta314dagoddess no, whiteness was very much a thing in the united states throughout most of it's life, and became much more of a systemic product in the late 1800's onward

as an Irishman (Gaeilge is my first language) I endorse this message 100%. Its all true. We were colonised. And treated as a sub race. Ironically it probably made us nicer than all those entitled whites.....haha

@rasheed12th38

2 жыл бұрын

Sure wasn't nice to black folks when they got to America.

@byoutifulmusic

2 жыл бұрын

Haha indeed 😂

@fiachramaccana280

2 жыл бұрын

@@abrahamlincoln9758 yeah as mass murderers and heretics go......

@fiachramaccana280

2 жыл бұрын

@@abrahamlincoln9758 get some help troll.

@TheChildfreeCurlyGirl

2 жыл бұрын

Um...no. yall threw black folks under the bus with the quickest to assimilate into whiteness. Boston is one of the most racist and violent cities toward Black folks...guess who lives there?

this is true, one of my close childhood friends was irish and his mother had a “no irish need apply” sign (can’t recall if it was her who had taken it down or her mother)

I agree with you, we know that people were imported and exported to and from Ireland around 400AD where St Patrick was kidnapped from England and brought to Ireland. So yes, I do believe there were multiple skin tones in Ireland throughout the years. But, as the sign represents, and this isn’t a fact that this is what the sign meant; but there was a large civil war in Ireland which split Ireland in half. One group of people wanted to be separated from England and the others wanted to be united with England which is why we have Northern Ireland and then just Ireland. But one of the parties known as the “Blacks and Tans” were a group of “police force” sent by England to fight the Irish into submission. So to me, the sign was not being racist or segregating, but was talking about this police military group. I am a proud Irish American and yet I don’t try to push it into peoples faces but I also try to respect my heritage and have fun while doing so. I love learning and studying about Ireland and their traditions there, and hopefully some day I can go there and see in person all these things I have learned about.

It’s shocking to see “Irish Americans” experienced racism turn around and be racist to others-mainly Black folk. 🙄 Ooh Lawd-

@smallfeet4581

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but many years ago the Irish knew when the blks got their freedom they would be at the bottom for jobs , there were troubles because of that , I've heard ones call Irish drunks when they were the ones who took jobs in police , you notice USA ended up with the criminals and ones fleeing police in Europe etc , it was the wild west , then there emerged the mafias , if there wasn't a USA all those in USA would either have been jailed or killed or elsewhere , the Basque and Armenians all went to USA ,some staying in the Alps they moved to and wanted to remain autonomous , that's why France had terrorist bombs going off by the Basque separatists and red brigade if I remember right , they went to France from central Asia area and some to Ireland and the Americas , Armenians fled genocide by the ottoman Turks and Hitler forcing them to become muslim , ones went to USA to flee Russia from Nordic countries , in saying that Hitler was also doing away with Armenians ,gypsies , etc , so was the ottoman Turks , Tito of Yugoslavia was in with Hitler , Hitler was also wanted rid of the poles , sadly USA is just an extension of the troubles in Europe and the east , but the Irish were not blk , they had Spanish and other but those had gone to Ireland , they were not indigenous , there was also the slave trade there where wht Scottish stolen and sold by the Dublin vikings who sold others they captured from around the world , I have photos of Irish from 1800s and they don't look anything but wht , if anyone has different photos I'd be happy to see them however that does not excuse their behaviour in USA

@shaserv

11 ай бұрын

I’m saying.

@stormysmurf

11 ай бұрын

What like that champion of racial justice JFKJr? Or the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame that literally fist fought with the KKK? You obviously never lived with the Irish of USA.

@views-kb6sv

11 ай бұрын

They never turned around and became racist there have always been tensions between minorities. Similar to how latinos and black people hate eachother now. Just because both struggle against a common group doesn't they'll be friends.

@somniumisdreaming

10 ай бұрын

Just Americans. No Irish no Italians just Americans with no culture of their own

Honestly, these subjects still make me so proud of my Irish Nanny (Grandma). She and her Indian neighbour (another lady) set up a spice business in England in the 60s. Two immigrant women raising families (and in Nanny's case, a large one) alongside running their business. Fantastic. Unfortunately both have now passed away, but I'll always be proud.

@rageagainstthewashingmachi2877

Жыл бұрын

Both historically genocided by the Brits. Irish famine and bengal famine. Heck Brits did such a number on Indians that their bodies are genetically in starvation mode.

@James-tk9to

Жыл бұрын

Lovely story of two immigrants

Is this man implying that the Irish are not white?

@BannedSports

18 сағат бұрын

Black people hate white people so much, that they will go as far as to say that a clearly white group of people, are not white 😂 He acts like he knows what he's talking about, and everyone else doesn't. The Irish were looked down upon back then, simply because of religious reasons, and cultural reasons

I have no problem with Irish Americans. In fact, As a native Irish person I'm proud of Irish America.

@stopusinaar

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@SowerValler

10 ай бұрын

I'm so glad that not all of you invalidate us

@Slouthx

10 ай бұрын

@@SowerVallerwhat’s the problem with Irish Americans

@Jane-yg3vz

10 ай бұрын

Do you know anything about Newfoundland in Canada? The people here don't claim to be Irish, they are Irish. A lot of Irish settled here 300 years ago, lived in isolation on the island for centuries, and only joined Canada in 1945. Most people have Irish accents and dialect, and our culture, music, food, and bloodline are very Irish. People from here don't often visit Ireland, but if they did, you would think they were from there when you heard them speak.

@JimOne-pz5hj

10 ай бұрын

@@Jane-yg3vz Most newfoundlanders are english descent, a large minority are irish tho. As usual irish take claim for anglo people.

I told an Italian girl I was kicking it with how Italians weren’t always considered white and she bout malfunctioned learning Italians have been white for barely a century 😂😂😂

@BEP4LIFE

7 ай бұрын

You told Ariana Grande 😮

@kevwhufc8640

6 ай бұрын

Define white ? I'm English, during summer walking about in Tshirt my face neck arms go brown, but rest of me that's untanned remains pink .. If I lived by the Mediterranean and just wore shorts I'd be constantly be sun tanned brown . Except for under my pants , lol ..

@jasonhaven7170

6 ай бұрын

Are you sure you're 100% English?@@kevwhufc8640

@aleeshasarr

6 ай бұрын

@@kevwhufc8640 getting a tan from the sun doesn’t change your race…

@grethi8110

6 ай бұрын

in the USA. Italians weren't considered white in the USA. but the USA is not the world

Reading 19th century British literature really gives you an idea of what these ppl thought of Irish/Easter European/southern European people. Usually via some kind of scandal where an English lady would marry an Italian or something and her family would call him an ethnic slur and cut her off. And they really did believe that different ethnicities had different kinds of blood or 'temperments'.

@Michelle-rdz17

2 ай бұрын

The Brits were smoking on that opium way before they got the Chinese addicted apparently

I’d rather not “have the day that I deserve”. I’m hoping for something better.😎

“Now have the day that you deserve.” Is now my absolutely favorite line out there. It’s like a far less passive aggressive version of bless your heart haha. Love it! Love your content as well & all the information you share with us!

@annana6098

Жыл бұрын

May your day be as pleasant as you are.

@angelastone4806

Жыл бұрын

@@annana6098 Ohhhh I like that one even better!🤣🤣

@nordathan

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!! I am taking this "Now have the day that you deserve." Thank you My life is now complete.

@girlinterrupted2625

Жыл бұрын

I’m definitely using this👌🏾

I have a t-shirt that says “More Irish More Blacks More Dogs” I LOVE the reactions I get from it, both from those that get it and those that don’t!

@jamesogara7053

5 ай бұрын

@@rodericblack4657 why should I? I’m wearing an anti-racist shirt! Do you not know the history of the racist signs in stores saying: “No Irish No Blacks No Dogs” ????!!!!! So you’re cheering that racism? Seems like you’re the one that should be embarrassed!! Táimid amach anseo!

@TheAutisticFrog

5 ай бұрын

@@rodericblack4657why

@TheAutisticFrog

5 ай бұрын

@@rodericblack4657woah why was the like button like really big for a second after i posted it

@TheAutisticFrog

5 ай бұрын

it happened again

@TheAutisticFrog

5 ай бұрын

tf

I’m Asian so they’re white to me

I think it’s really important that we talk about this. I feel everyone wants to put People are different from them in a little box and say hey this is what you are. Whether your skin is black or white, you still have a history and I can’t just be summed up to a color.

I’d heard the “no Irish need apply” but didn’t know a lot of the rest he said. I got a new book to read

@vellabella1

Жыл бұрын

It is a great read. Read this many years ago

@Scarlattomachiatto

Жыл бұрын

An excellent book, I highly recommend it. It helps gives an inside look on how cultures and ethnicities who were predominantly fair skinned didn't count as White and for the Irish, it was longer than most others.

@World900

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and also "The sign said, long haired freaky people, need not apply" - Five Man Electrical Band🤣

"Have the day that you deserve" is going to be what I say to everyone from now, thank you

Doesn't matter if we were considered white or weren't considered human, we are and we're always white and also human. If I consider Nigerians not black, it doesn't mean they aren't.

I know how they saw the Irish man, treated them like DOGS!

"Have the day that you deserve" I love that so much. He said it so nicely, but it could mean anything to anyone

@LilliLamour

Жыл бұрын

The context let's ya know