Why The F-Duct Was Banned From F1

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F1 teams are awfully innovative when it comes to giving their cars the upper hand, which normally leads to two ideas from their rivals - "Can we copy it?" and "Can we get it banned?"
Enter McLaren's infamous 2010 F-Duct, where teams sought to recreate the concept for themselves before the FIA put their foot down on the pipework idea. Despite this, it did leave it's mark on the grid which we can still see on the cars to this day, and in this episode of Banned we take a look at the birth, lifespan and death of the notorious F-Duct and it's related cousins.
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  • @trackmaniaracing8163
    @trackmaniaracing81634 жыл бұрын

    F1 Team: *creates something innovative and cutting-edge* FIA: B A N N E D

  • @wildanh7806

    @wildanh7806

    4 жыл бұрын

    Other team got jealous on it so they ask FIA to ban it

  • @preacherz01

    @preacherz01

    4 жыл бұрын

    aye, i think anything an F1 team create should be allowed and kept no matter what, these people are the smartest mechanics the world will know. banning their innovations is just stupid. F1 needs cars with hidden secrets to keep it more .... unbalanced.

  • @MrBrokenTrucker

    @MrBrokenTrucker

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@preacherz01 I agree, but that's only in the case that the inclusion of the innovation doesn't result in "extended periods of one handed driving", or otherwise doesn't give them a very significant edge.

  • @BOOT

    @BOOT

    4 жыл бұрын

    The fault of people that implemented it in an unsafe manor, IE use of a hand to activate and loss of some steering control.

  • @Fuscao_Preto

    @Fuscao_Preto

    4 жыл бұрын

    And that's why i think it is getting more and more boring.

  • @k9man163
    @k9man1634 жыл бұрын

    Imagine how cool F1 would be if the FIA didn't ban everything that made cars faster.

  • @uuuultra

    @uuuultra

    4 жыл бұрын

    More deaths

  • @saigonrider

    @saigonrider

    4 жыл бұрын

    Like formula B rally?

  • @0pixmedia

    @0pixmedia

    4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine the deaths

  • @YungEagle3k

    @YungEagle3k

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@uuuultra death is good, something you can learn from

  • @jbac5767

    @jbac5767

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or more deadly lol.

  • @eIucidate
    @eIucidate4 жыл бұрын

    Lol I've heard of the F Duct so many times I didn't realise it stood for the F in Vodafone!

  • @sonnduro

    @sonnduro

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol same

  • @sergarlantyrell7847

    @sergarlantyrell7847

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've always hated the spelling of Vodafone so I think I'll start calling it the "ph" duct from now on.

  • @fidan2fast

    @fidan2fast

    4 жыл бұрын

    yeah, I've always thought that it's called like that because of the shape of the piping system

  • @TheMegaPingasMobile

    @TheMegaPingasMobile

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought it stood for "flow duct"

  • @nick4paokara

    @nick4paokara

    3 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't stand for the F in Vodafone

  • @raphi_0896
    @raphi_08964 жыл бұрын

    McLaren: "Ok.We need to make sure no one sees that our drivers are using the F-duct" Basically every other team: "LMAO, let's just one hand so everybody sees it."

  • @armands3153

    @armands3153

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well it worked - they covered the F-Duct with one hand so nobody sees that the car has an F-Duct. Complex problems require simple solutions.

  • @jacobfoster6773

    @jacobfoster6773

    4 жыл бұрын

    The reason other teams had to use their hands were due to the drivers survival cell being homologated at the start of the season. Mclaren had designed their safety cell with a hole for the leg to activate it, other teams were not able to punch a hole in it for their leg to activate it, hence using their hands instead.

  • @The_Curious_Cat

    @The_Curious_Cat

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think it was more like "Lets use our hands so the FIA bans it three seconds after it finds out we are steering with one hand ROTFLMAOTROLOLOL"

  • @Dockhead

    @Dockhead

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@armands3153 nah that aint right. come do plumbing and piping work in a derelict house without adequate lighting and comfortable spacing to do ya job. trying to get a pipe cutter onto a gullied oxidised pipe thats 3 ft below the ground floor of a house.

  • @hasanbasribozkurt1146

    @hasanbasribozkurt1146

    4 жыл бұрын

    metalhead and a car guy wtf are we twin or something

  • @armands3153
    @armands31534 жыл бұрын

    I just love how Alonso casually drives with one hand during the straights.

  • @AutosportOfficial

    @AutosportOfficial

    4 жыл бұрын

    That was crazy 🤯

  • @Sparrowash97

    @Sparrowash97

    4 жыл бұрын

    You wouldn’t think driving in a straight line would be hard, yet most car accidents happen on motorways 🤦‍♂️

  • @armands3153

    @armands3153

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Sparrowash97 Absolutely.

  • @MrCatseyes01

    @MrCatseyes01

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nothing on senna driving one handed around Monaco

  • @gabor6259

    @gabor6259

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alonso drove with 1 hand in corners! I remember seeing it on TV.

  • @Al3xisAE
    @Al3xisAE4 жыл бұрын

    That’s dangerous using your knee to activate it Ferrari: hold my beer

  • @jazznazz8152

    @jazznazz8152

    4 жыл бұрын

    hold my *steering wheel

  • @jaycrall69

    @jaycrall69

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jazznazz8152 you have a steering wheel?

  • @souljastation5463

    @souljastation5463

    3 жыл бұрын

    by using the back of the hand there's no need to drive with one hand

  • @Swing17

    @Swing17

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hold my hand

  • @carlitoxb110

    @carlitoxb110

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lecrec Hold my seatbelts

  • @stoo8441
    @stoo84414 жыл бұрын

    Austosport title: Asks question. Autosport video: Doesn’t answer question. Nice.

  • @trentwerner366

    @trentwerner366

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s because the FIA is afraid of being more technologically advanced

  • @irish_mcrae1892

    @irish_mcrae1892

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@trentwerner366 No, it was for safety, cause of the 1 handed driving

  • @creeperkiller007

    @creeperkiller007

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@irish_mcrae1892 its because they competitors are too lazy to think of ways to make a f duck that doesnt involve the use of one hand and its people like that who got it bannedf

  • @accretor

    @accretor

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@irish_mcrae1892 No, because systems that were activated by the driver's knee were also banned.

  • @acefreak9561

    @acefreak9561

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was banned for safety also anything activated by using your knee or make u take your hand off the wheel is also banned

  • @johncnorris
    @johncnorris4 жыл бұрын

    F1: We want teams to innovate. McLaren: How about this fancy F-duct I created? F1: No! Teams: 😢

  • @filmandfirearms

    @filmandfirearms

    4 жыл бұрын

    It lasted several years and took several different forms

  • @Happygrowercbris420

    @Happygrowercbris420

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @madoba8717
    @madoba87174 жыл бұрын

    The FIA should just put some rails on the track. That’s the “safest” option. Don’t forget to give Ferrari a separate set on the inside line so they don’t whine

  • @MasrSR

    @MasrSR

    4 жыл бұрын

    They should take all the wheels off the cars and just imagine who would win off of which car looks cooler

  • @dylan__dog

    @dylan__dog

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Izan TM so, turn F1 into an e-sport

  • @rice5827

    @rice5827

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MasrSR mercedes looks the coolest imo

  • @normanschulze621
    @normanschulze6214 жыл бұрын

    The Blown Defuser was awesome. The best F1 Sound for me dircet after the V10s

  • @davidperry4013

    @davidperry4013

    4 жыл бұрын

    V10s have that awesome harmonic sound.

  • @ElementofKindness
    @ElementofKindness4 жыл бұрын

    FIA really seems to have missed the ENTIRE point of F1: To promote innovation of cutting edge technology to makes cars get to the finish line as quickly as possible.

  • @Reddsoldier

    @Reddsoldier

    3 жыл бұрын

    I blame their stunting of innovation through motorsports for the advent of the absolute crap that mainstream manufacturers are now producing.

  • @michael-dm2bv

    @michael-dm2bv

    3 жыл бұрын

    mainstream residential cars have been perfected over 10 years ago. People like bells and whistles and stuff that means they can become sh*ttier drivers. Does any racing vehicle have blind spot indicators, pedestrian collision technology or an ability to attempt to drive itself? Exactly. Safety is being a good driver, not a car that lets u not pay attention and rewards you for it by not letting u get into an accident or preventing you from mowing down a pack of school children crossing the street as ur texting ur bff. If you need that sh*t you should take the bus or a bycicle.

  • @machinech183

    @machinech183

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michael-dm2bv Cue the soap-boxing purist... Boxing people into whatever extreme to disguise personal preference as some sort of factoid is a bit schoolyard silly. Grow up. You've a long way to go before you're savvy enough to "win" the internet award for puerile rants. Comparing two vehicles with entire different design purpose is just pointless. Cars as a whole by dint of being machines will never be "perfected" until people run out of ideas and stop inventing. Hasn't happened in human history yet, likely never will. Cars of all kinds will continue to change as people innovate until something comes along to make them obsolete. Racing rules stunt the pace of progress but do not in fact stop it.

  • @michael-dm2bv

    @michael-dm2bv

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@machinech183 - someone is mad. u must like ur barely relevant self driving musk ev or ur volvos blind spot warning flashers. i have already won the award for rants. Keeping the sole of ur foot on satans head ain't easy, and i can easily surmise that you would not know.

  • @michael-dm2bv

    @michael-dm2bv

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@machinech183 - u seem to have run out of ideas. Does that imply that martians have been perfected? You no longer need to improve? have you ever watched "they live"? how about jacob's ladder? Lets talk! Don't be mad. Hell is going to enjoy ur soul! If that's not good news i don't know what is.

  • @earthknight60
    @earthknight604 жыл бұрын

    I get the feeling that KZread channels don't actually understand what "why" means. This is a good overview of the various implementations, but it doesn't at all answer the question of *why* it was banned.

  • @Appri

    @Appri

    4 жыл бұрын

    I get the feeling you are an idiot. He clearly says, the teams copy and/or campaign for solutions to be banned, stated multiple times.

  • @fabiangonzalez-cortes8894

    @fabiangonzalez-cortes8894

    4 жыл бұрын

    Coder Stone that’s not a reason for why they lobby that innovations be banned. You could say “unfair advantage” but that’s not entirely true given the technology is in its infancy.

  • @SuperDeinVadda

    @SuperDeinVadda

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the one handed driving was deemed to dangerous

  • @rmbzbrenden7739

    @rmbzbrenden7739

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, this is a 3 minute video

  • @Saru-yr3qk

    @Saru-yr3qk

    3 жыл бұрын

    It got banned because teams were implementing the technology poorly and in unsafe ways, particularly by driving with one hand to activate the F duct.

  • @peterlekkerkerker4482
    @peterlekkerkerker44824 жыл бұрын

    My favorite banned technology in F1: CVT.

  • @dimitriyakovic1522

    @dimitriyakovic1522

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why was it banned though?

  • @initialdfan8352

    @initialdfan8352

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maxim idk ask Williams

  • @GloomGaiGar

    @GloomGaiGar

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ethan Yost lol how did that work out? as cylinders went away, it sounds like that anyway

  • @sepg5084

    @sepg5084

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ethan Yost if they did not ban CVTs in F1, i am willing to bet we'd have better CVTs today. F1s sound like high pitched weed eaters anyway.

  • @DiegoRuiz1991

    @DiegoRuiz1991

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dimitriyakovic1522 - Have you ever listened to a snowmobile competition? Well, that's CVT racing, there's only FORWARDS and BACKWARDS. The 4 most famous vehicles with CVT are electric cars (and some hybrids like the Prius), Polaris UTVs, direct-drive karts and mopeds.

  • @darkalman
    @darkalman4 жыл бұрын

    The F-duct was one of the most brilliant bits of engineering in F1 history, I really hope the people that came up with it got raises.

  • @ValentineC137
    @ValentineC1374 жыл бұрын

    FIA: "hahaha, you can't go faster what are you thinking"

  • @VigneshBalasubramaniam
    @VigneshBalasubramaniam4 жыл бұрын

    Team: introduces innovation. FIA: BAN IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @armands3153

    @armands3153

    4 жыл бұрын

    I really don't get that. I would understand the ban, if it has potential harm and danger, but otherwise... How can they innovative, if the teams are required to follow specific set of rules which don't account any kind of technical freedom. And if someone legally "bends" the rules, other teams like sore losers right away try to ban it, because their engineers didn't thought of it. Like what is this? Why is everything so imprecise and cryptic?

  • @armands3153

    @armands3153

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@racetracknerd9484 We shall see.

  • @656hookemhorns

    @656hookemhorns

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's why F1 is basically parade laps determined by the size of your wallet

  • @homeperson11244

    @homeperson11244

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well f-duct wasn't banned, is just by the time DRS was introduced, the f-duct became pointless

  • @Leo9ine

    @Leo9ine

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@armands3153 Potential harm and danger... Like drivers going flat out with one hand on the wheel?

  • @AndreSomers
    @AndreSomers4 жыл бұрын

    I think that as long as safety isn't impacted, teams should be basically free to develop whatever especially once the budget-cap is in place. Let teams come up with innovative solutions and ideas once more!

  • @kimi17171
    @kimi171714 жыл бұрын

    my favorite ban: X wings

  • @saltbjorn

    @saltbjorn

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean it’s always gonna be unfair, racing against spaceships...

  • @staitz2728

    @staitz2728

    4 жыл бұрын

    Salt especially weaponized ones

  • @AutosportOfficial

    @AutosportOfficial

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're in luck 😉 kzread.info/dash/bejne/mmqTt7eRhLnQe5M.html

  • @kimi17171

    @kimi17171

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AutosportOfficial you already did a video. great!

  • @saltbjorn

    @saltbjorn

    4 жыл бұрын

    Autosport lmao top lad

  • @tulmar4548
    @tulmar45484 жыл бұрын

    Here is the simplest explanation for the f duct .. grab a straw , put a hole in it halfway up, blow in one end and feel how much air is coming out the end. Now cover the hole in the middle and do the same and feel the result. You have just made your own f duct and a fluid switch. The hard part is balancing the sizes of intakes and outlets so your not stalling the wing without blocking the hole or on the other, blocking the whole and not stalling the wing.

  • @gorkab8461
    @gorkab84614 жыл бұрын

    Very informative video! Thanks

  • @urzuse7en
    @urzuse7en4 жыл бұрын

    And here I am trying to figure out how to get more air in to my PC.

  • @darrendackly4754
    @darrendackly47544 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thank you. I remember it being a thing at the time but never really understood how it worked. As for my favorite band F1 car, it has to be the Brabham BT46. Gordon Murray's fan car.

  • @rockerlkj
    @rockerlkj4 жыл бұрын

    Would have really appreciated a much more elementary explanation of what's happening with the f duct instead of just throwing out words like "pipery" and "fluidic switch" with no explanation and a few drawings with nice green arrows.

  • @tulmar4548

    @tulmar4548

    4 жыл бұрын

    Think of the system as a whole as the switch. By putting his hand on the hole in the cockpit the driver activates pressure differences and changes how or where the air ( fluid ) is diverted , hence a switch.

  • @jamesrowland2002

    @jamesrowland2002

    4 жыл бұрын

    its digestible recycled youtube content. There are some great explanations of it out there.

  • @TlalocTemporal

    @TlalocTemporal

    4 жыл бұрын

    You know when you stick your hand over the end of the hose on a vacuum cleaner and the motor spins faster? You can use that kinda thing to switch which pipe the air flows through. And if you throw some air at a wing in the right way, it messes the whole thing up and stops moving air, less downforce = less drag.

  • @Mostlyharmless1985

    @Mostlyharmless1985

    3 жыл бұрын

    Air goes whoosh whoosh. When driver want air to go whoosh over the airplain wing, driver block air window to make whoosh go over airplan wing. FFS it's a fucking duct, dude. What's to understand?

  • @johnthomas8605
    @johnthomas86054 жыл бұрын

    My favorite F-1 car of all time, and now a banned platform, was the Tyrell P-34. I believe that with proper support from s tire manufacturer the P-34 could have had multiple handling advantages as well as an aero advantage.

  • @ferrumignis
    @ferrumignis4 жыл бұрын

    The alleged pinnacle of motorsport stifling innovation as usual.

  • @trentwerner366

    @trentwerner366

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sad but true

  • @pikachu8508
    @pikachu85084 жыл бұрын

    Mclaren: We introduce F-duct on our new cars Mercedes: Our cars are now fitted with new DAS technology Ferrari International Assistance: Wait, that's illegal.

  • @punkboysofdoom5322

    @punkboysofdoom5322

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pikachu *Wait, DAS illegal.

  • @Dat-Mudkip

    @Dat-Mudkip

    4 жыл бұрын

    Also Ferrari International Assistance: Hey guys! Why the hell is everything so expensive? (Answer: FIA keeps removing all the "cheap" options)

  • @CarsSimplified
    @CarsSimplified4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting designs! You never really think of air being taken from the rear and routed to the front! One of many reasons I'm not an F1 engineer.

  • @GregzVR
    @GregzVR4 жыл бұрын

    Teams usually 'seek clarification' aka, snitching to the FIA.

  • @liamhorn1150
    @liamhorn11504 жыл бұрын

    Tbh I love the how teams get around the rules it’s good to watch

  • @TheNerd
    @TheNerd4 жыл бұрын

    Ferrari had a DRS similar System in 1997. Their plan was to use it at the GP of Jerez but the FIA banned it before the were able to race it.

  • @dsmcraig
    @dsmcraig3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, i remember the f-duct. It was an interesting bit of engineering at the time. The FIA had no choice but to ban this idea and regulate it through the use of DRS. The sport changed drastically with these innovations, and added to the excitement of the F1 experiance for viewers.

  • @LordClunk
    @LordClunk3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think anything should be banned, unless it is unsafe. Part of motorsport is the difference between vehicles. If people think that all cars should follow the same rules, then just get one manufacturer to make all cars, then we can see how good the drivers really are.

  • @nokz80
    @nokz804 жыл бұрын

    The one handed driving to activate it is insane. it would have been better to have a foot switch like old school high beams...and the fact that no one thought of that kind of boggles my mind.

  • @markboersma8694
    @markboersma86944 жыл бұрын

    Lotus also tried a solution like this, a fluid switch that stalled the rear wing at a certain speed and unstalled it below a set speed (in 2013 british gp I think) but it was never raced

  • @spaceshuttle8332
    @spaceshuttle83324 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video! Could you guys provide a reference on the more technical side of the F-duct? Maybe with a little more technical detail? I’m curious to know what you mean by stalling decreasing drag

  • @Thors_Garage
    @Thors_Garage4 жыл бұрын

    The f duct blew my mind for years and still does. The blown diffuser is another one that I love

  • @Wirenfeldt1990
    @Wirenfeldt19904 жыл бұрын

    one small critique.. Next time you mention multiple races in rapid succession from years past, could you maybe add "Fourth Round at X, or Round 10 at Y" for those of us that don't remember the order of every single race in seasons past?

  • @jack4688
    @jack46884 жыл бұрын

    I’ll never forget watching the Italian GP that year and seeing Jenson Button’s massive rear wing, completely out of context with the fastest GP circuit on the calendar!

  • @ChrisJSetterington
    @ChrisJSetterington4 жыл бұрын

    Ingenious stuff. Sad it was banned. Innovation got me into F1.. I'll still watch but that aspect that inspired me seems to be being brushed away into history.

  • @Amauvy

    @Amauvy

    4 жыл бұрын

    DAS / F duct / W duct, and thats the only one i have in mind atm, but its still full of innovation dw.

  • @areebsiddiqui758

    @areebsiddiqui758

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Amauvy There are hundreds, it's just that most are not prominent enough visually or performance wise to get a name and attention of the public eye. There's also the snowplough, s duct, and those rear wing cutouts to bleed air.

  • @GloomGaiGar

    @GloomGaiGar

    4 жыл бұрын

    there's still innovation but it's less visually obvious now which, imo, makes it even more brilliant

  • @fxr_failsafe9050
    @fxr_failsafe90504 жыл бұрын

    I think with the 2022 changes it might be beneficial for teams to redevelop the w-duct to channel more air into the venturi tunnels under the car

  • @felagoncalves
    @felagoncalves3 жыл бұрын

    FIA: Formula 1 is meant to be the ultimate expression in technology that makes the car faster in straights and corners and lighter. Also FIA: aaa speed scawy

  • @LTdesign13
    @LTdesign134 жыл бұрын

    You don't ever really explain "why" specifically it was banned...?

  • @GloomGaiGar

    @GloomGaiGar

    4 жыл бұрын

    not banned so much as made redundant. DRS made it pointless

  • @phwaedih

    @phwaedih

    4 жыл бұрын

    also some teams made it so the driver would have to take their hand off the wheel which was dangerous

  • @The_Curious_Cat

    @The_Curious_Cat

    4 жыл бұрын

    The FIA banned it on the grounds of safety, soon they saw the teams using one hand to drive and the other to cover the F-duct hole, it took 2.5 seconds for the FIA to ban it (and laugh maniacally because they could finally ban it muahahahaha).

  • @darkalman

    @darkalman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alonso was shown in replays using his left hand to block the DRS duct. Since he had to use his right hand to adjust the break bias that left no hands on the steering wheel. The FIA realized that this was making the device too dangerous. If all the teams had used a duct activated by the left leg it would have been safer, but it wasn't practical to cram it into an existing car. The point was proven though, stalling the rear wing helped the cars pass. So rather than make the F-duct, all all the associated complex pipe work, legal it made more sense to introduce DRS instead because it was just a flap in the rear wing that did the same thing but with a greater effect and significant less development cost. Plus significantly safer. Ross Brawn later commented that the DRS flap was worth 10x times more in helping cars pass than all the aero changes they introduced in 2009 combined. He admitted that none of the brilliant aero guys involved in the 2009 changes thought of just putting a flap in the rear wing, if they had they would have saved everyone a lot of trouble.

  • @LTdesign13

    @LTdesign13

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@darkalman I know all this, I'm just pointing out to the Autosport channel that their title is misleading.

  • @DaniMacYo
    @DaniMacYo4 жыл бұрын

    Can we get videos on double diffusers and blown diffuses. Unless it’s already been done.

  • @tiagoLPsporting
    @tiagoLPsporting4 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure I've read that introductory speech on Adrian Newey's book

  • @MrShpaco
    @MrShpaco4 жыл бұрын

    There is this really really neat aircraft museum in Dayton Ohio, USA, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. The way they have the museum setup, you start off at the very beginning of flight and work your way to the current area. You notice small changes in airframe design. For example moving flight control cables from the outside into a protected tube, or putting aerodynamic covers over wheels, or a plate over the spokes of a rim. It seems obvious looking back, but every advancement in design makes aviation that much safer and more efficient. The point is, unless new ideas and technologies are tested, advancement is impossible.

  • @davidca96
    @davidca963 жыл бұрын

    this is what I love about F1, the constant pushing of the rules/workarounds to gain an advantage. The things they come up with are amazing, like these ducts, Renaults damper in 2006, Ferrari's 2019 engine, yes they get banned but that just allows a new trick to be created next.

  • @quentinaskin7441
    @quentinaskin74413 жыл бұрын

    I love the sound of the old v12 motors back in the day.

  • @perenidavid5901
    @perenidavid59014 жыл бұрын

    Please make a video about the exhaust blown rear wing Renault 2013-2014...

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog19894 жыл бұрын

    My favourite is the Brabham BT46B, Aka the Fan Car. A brilliant or cynical, depending on your opinion, exploitation of loopholes in the wording of the regulations

  • @zeroc977
    @zeroc9773 жыл бұрын

    People dont understand that when the FIA bans something is in order to improve racing. If the feature is very expensive to develop, creates considerable amounts of dirty air, and/or could be dangerous then it should be banned.

  • @Calilasseia
    @Calilasseia3 жыл бұрын

    I'm imagining the fun and games that would have ensued, if someone had combined the Lotus double chassis car with the Brabham fan car, and slipped the resulting combination under the radar enough to deploy it in anger in an actual race. That would have lit the fireworks ...

  • @avipatable
    @avipatable3 жыл бұрын

    3 must-watch ads in a 9 min clip? first and last vid I watch from this channel. YT is becoming a joke.

  • @sijonda
    @sijonda4 жыл бұрын

    I think there should be an unlimited class some day. I know of one car that was built like this but it's only used for setting records.

  • @robertwillis4061

    @robertwillis4061

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's public safety that is the problem. If a car going at 200mph goes off the track it's weight and volocity turn it into a large bullet causingall sorts of damage when it hits. Look at the crowd stands in Abu Dhabi, imagine an F1 at 200mph going over the fences into the crowd. Think of the law suits! F1 has to be safe for the audience as well as the drivers, so anything that makes the cars good faster and thus more dangerous has to be banned. Compromise. Make the cars go faster, put the crowd further back - 200m. All the crowd would see is coloured dots whizz past.

  • @john-martin
    @john-martin4 жыл бұрын

    FIA banned it because they were afraid teams would use the forced induction of air through the duct for “other purposes”.

  • @BrunoPPacheco
    @BrunoPPacheco4 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who loves these illustrations?

  • @deeez00
    @deeez003 жыл бұрын

    Never ban innovation!

  • @alexanderwingeskog758
    @alexanderwingeskog7583 жыл бұрын

    I remember playing Spy hunter on my C-64... Maybe someday they will invent something that destroys the competition behind... small oil spill button, airflow destroyer (backwards) and so on :-)

  • @Opressed
    @Opressed4 жыл бұрын

    3:41 Y0, i heard you like wings

  • @bruckmike
    @bruckmike3 жыл бұрын

    9 minute video and 7 midroll ads... WTF?

  • @Pippy1
    @Pippy13 жыл бұрын

    It honestly pisses me off how much shit in racing gets banned, it seems no matter what category they just ban fucking everything that would make it more exciting and or more competitive

  • @yoville73
    @yoville734 жыл бұрын

    Doesn’t DRS do the same thing as the F-Duct?

  • @darkalman

    @darkalman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Functionally yes, but the DRS is much better at it. Significantly cheaper, and arguably safer. The problem that led to the F-duct is F1 has a blanket rule than bans 'moveable aerodynamic devices' ie flaps in the wing. However at the time the driver was not considered as part of this rule, which is why a fluidic switch covered by the drivers leg/hand was legal. The F-duct is actually the reason they introduced DRS in the first place.

  • @79PokeBoy
    @79PokeBoy4 жыл бұрын

    Bring it back it looks pretty handy

  • @Deamon93IT
    @Deamon93IT4 жыл бұрын

    I seriously hope that the FIA and F1 will move towards making sure the teams don't cross the cost caps while leaving them as much wiggle room as possible as far as technical regs are concerned. I would truly love to see how the engineers tackle such a scenario and all the possible solutions

  • @iPwnZz
    @iPwnZz4 жыл бұрын

    Wonder how a f1 car with every single banned feature installed would do, compared to the current cars

  • @arealassassin

    @arealassassin

    4 жыл бұрын

    That would be the thing that Adrian Newey designed for the Gran Turismo game- closed cockpit, active-everything, fan car. Does a bazillion kph and doesn't just drive o the ceiling; but chews the ceiling up and spits it out the rear, whilst opening spacetime rifts simultaneously...!!

  • @muhdsyahir9416
    @muhdsyahir94164 жыл бұрын

    I would like to know about the secret deal between Ferrari and the FIA regarding their "2019 close to illegal engine".

  • @slo1383
    @slo13834 жыл бұрын

    I always thought it was a beautiful solution, using airflow in an innovative way like that. But the need to take your hand off the wheel in the Ferrari design was never a good idea.

  • @The_Curious_Cat

    @The_Curious_Cat

    4 жыл бұрын

    Back then in Ferrari not much was a good idea.

  • @defsoul641

    @defsoul641

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@The_Curious_Cat arguably still a relevant statement for their current situation

  • @TlalocTemporal

    @TlalocTemporal

    4 жыл бұрын

    Using the driver to manipulate a static fluid switch stems from a ban on movable aerodynamic surfaces (which would include air valves used for aerodynamic purposes). DRS is the same thing, but using a moving aerodynamic surface.

  • @doctajuice
    @doctajuice4 жыл бұрын

    So basically drs without all the rules surrounding the use of drs

  • @StaelTek
    @StaelTek4 жыл бұрын

    haven't watched the video yet, but i guess it is for safety reasons due to the need of manual activation from the driver's hand.

  • @bamm3659
    @bamm36594 жыл бұрын

    F1 cars have like 1,000 bhp and way more down force than its own weight.. god forbid they have a 3 inch duct

  • @PeRRXX

    @PeRRXX

    3 жыл бұрын

    DRS literally does the same thing, and is definitely safer, and cheaper. Drivers literally had to take their hands off the wheel down the straight. With DRS, they push a button. The F-Duct is now completely useless

  • @eldominici3732
    @eldominici37324 жыл бұрын

    Off I go to 2010 races ... time to do some research... ✌🏽💯

  • @aviation0197
    @aviation01974 жыл бұрын

    didn't the teams agree to ban it themselves not the FIA

  • @benlowe578
    @benlowe5782 жыл бұрын

    I want to see an F1 car with ground effect, four wheel drive, a massive engine that's super charged and turbo charged, with KERS and a F Duct. I think we'd beat a few lap records

  • @vveee_

    @vveee_

    2 жыл бұрын

    well, the 2022 cars have ground effect so we’re getting there

  • @daylenhigman8680
    @daylenhigman86803 жыл бұрын

    Imagine a f1 with no rules on builds (except raming of course) Just speed...

  • @originaldk5436
    @originaldk54364 жыл бұрын

    I have no idea what half the words you said mean but intersting

  • @hammerbro1947
    @hammerbro19474 жыл бұрын

    One time, Alonso drove with one hand on the steering wheel and the other on that duct lol. The interview afterwards made me "XD"

  • @The_Curious_Cat

    @The_Curious_Cat

    4 жыл бұрын

    One hand on the F-duct and the other on twitter, while steering with his knee.

  • @hammerbro1947

    @hammerbro1947

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@The_Curious_Cat Lol XD

  • @jerryldavis1823
    @jerryldavis18234 жыл бұрын

    It understand that it is kind of important for FIA to intervene everytime when something new comes up but it would really be awesome if every team had their own solutions provided every team had enormous budget . I know it's not possible but it would be epic to have that.

  • @GloomGaiGar

    @GloomGaiGar

    4 жыл бұрын

    They still do but it's not as visually obvious now.

  • @raymondlowry8564
    @raymondlowry85644 жыл бұрын

    The first F-1 race I attended (I was eight years old) was in 1960 at Riverside Raceway in California (Stirling Moss won if anyone is interested). The cars had shifted to rear engine layout which at the time was the height of technical achievement. Oh how things have changed! Computers win races now, not the driver’s!

  • @n111254789

    @n111254789

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is no traction control, abs, or active suspension there hasn't been for over a decade unless you mean the computers that control the fuel injection?

  • @raymondlowry8564

    @raymondlowry8564

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jack Danny I suppose my comment is more of a melancholy lament. In the late sixties and seventies it seemed like there were a greater percentage of teams that could be competitive without needing the financial resources of a Boeing or Microsoft (a decent example was Rob Walkers efforts). One arena is engines. Although some companies always used their own power plants many others did quite well running the Cosworth DFV (this also helped level the playing field a bit). A company didn’t need access to wind tunnels and prohibitively expensive “main frame” computers to win races. Maybe I am being naive but I feel like there was a time when the driver made the difference (as in Stirling Moss-awesome driver largely competing in sub par British vehicles, but still winning races). Now it seems to me that you can take a good (not necessarily great) driver, put him in a dominant vehicle and the race is decided before it starts. The dominant vehicles now (and in fairness this isn’t a recent phenomena) are produced by companies with virtually unlimited developmental resources (super sophisticated computer designs), basically things that some companies don’t have and ultimately are forced to leave F1 because of this. So, my observation about “computers winning races” was more of a generic comment. I could be way off base here but to illustrate my point, I would suggest you could put several different drivers in the current Mercedes and they would win races in that car. However I doubt if the opposite is true. Could a Hamilton or Schumacher win a lot of races in mediocre vehicles today? I think not. And in my opinion “computers” play a huge part in this. Maybe all this is inevitable, but at least for me it seems like a big part of the drivers contribution has been reduced significantly. Just sayin’........

  • @kalyankothekar
    @kalyankothekar4 жыл бұрын

    The f word pun in thumbnail 😂😂

  • @siccodegroot8710
    @siccodegroot87104 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was called the F-duct because of the 2 ducts coming together into 1 like a F. Kinda funny it has the less complicated meaning of the Vodafone F.

  • @NeoIsrafil
    @NeoIsrafil4 жыл бұрын

    I think it's silly to ban aero control schemes. They make the cars faster and races more exciting.

  • @4478nick
    @4478nick4 жыл бұрын

    You already made a video on the F-duct.

  • @initialdfan8352
    @initialdfan83524 жыл бұрын

    Lotus 88 double chassis groud effect

  • @Necronaut
    @Necronaut3 жыл бұрын

    You don't explain enough how the pipe work is different in each car u describe, basically leaving us just assuming it was "different."

  • @TheBshwckr
    @TheBshwckr3 жыл бұрын

    Couldn’t they put a mechanism to cover the duct if the driver presses a button like when they pressed for drs? The f duct sounds cooler than drs.

  • @mrdraw2087
    @mrdraw20874 жыл бұрын

    So does the focus on double DRS explain why Mercedes' development stalled in 2012?

  • @scottdoherty3977
    @scottdoherty39774 жыл бұрын

    Tuned Mass Damper from Renault or the Brake Steer from McLaren or Michelin’s Tread Width.

  • @h.kurnia8175

    @h.kurnia8175

    4 жыл бұрын

    TMD solution is a very clever solution

  • @Foldingblade
    @Foldingblade4 жыл бұрын

    i lovethe renault wings in 2005 or 6

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g14 жыл бұрын

    I thought it was a D duct, or crotch duct, somewhat like those old under sterring wheel AC vents. Where did those go? I was born after the last one of those cars carrying those ducts were released. We need to bring those back

  • @varun1036
    @varun10363 жыл бұрын

    Who can forget the BT46 fan car ?! That's my all time favourite. Also I won't forget the beautiful Force India nostril nose front wing of 2015 and their dragon wing shark fins in 2017❤

  • @peterjonas1545
    @peterjonas15454 жыл бұрын

    I thought its name came from its physical shape resembling the top of an 'f'. I suppose it would have seemed bizarre to call it anything else but the letter could have been anything.

  • @redheadsg1
    @redheadsg14 жыл бұрын

    FIA: Play by the rules. Mercedes: How about no. There is a fine line between bending rules and "innovation".

  • @The_Curious_Cat

    @The_Curious_Cat

    4 жыл бұрын

    Innovation is being creative in the way you interpret the rules. Just because the a rule says "the cars can only be black" doesn´t mean the teams can´t paint it in matte black to improve weight and by doing so, they are not doing anything illegal, just applying the rules in a different way.

  • @robertjusic9097

    @robertjusic9097

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dont hate the playa', hate the game

  • @joshuarobinson1656
    @joshuarobinson16564 жыл бұрын

    F1 team: innovates something huge which should be celebrated Other teams: BAN IT NOW

  • @The_Curious_Cat

    @The_Curious_Cat

    4 жыл бұрын

    But before "WE ARE GOING O COPY IT! AND USING OUR HANDS! ROLFMAO!" then it doesn´t work as good as the original: "BAN IT NOW!".

  • @franzneubauer890
    @franzneubauer8904 жыл бұрын

    Cvt in a Scooter feels good.Honda silver wing For example

  • @kerbertwinslo
    @kerbertwinslo4 жыл бұрын

    I’m not educated on f1 and this is definitely gonna sound stupid but why don’t they have a wing that can move to create more or less downforce in straights and corners

  • @wilseph1
    @wilseph14 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes. Just crusin' along on the track with one hand on the wheel, and one hand on the Fduct. Y'know...just a casual thang whilst racing.

  • @cate01a
    @cate01a3 жыл бұрын

    sad that there are so many bans; if it weren't for them, f1 would be much more advanced and cooler. teams would need to adapt or die out. Also it's insane that some small vents seem to be so significant for f1! You'd think only a computer driver could make something so fine tuned work

  • @justiceleague5431
    @justiceleague54312 жыл бұрын

    We saw how Kubica back then was driving with one hand.

  • @nokiot9
    @nokiot94 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn’t a dynamic spoiler have been a way simpler solution?

  • @johnveryan2872
    @johnveryan28724 жыл бұрын

    My favourite banned thing is the Brabham BT46. The only F1 car to have a 100% win record, it won every race it entered.

  • @fair2middling
    @fair2middling4 жыл бұрын

    surprised there was no mention of the s-duct

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