"Haas is struggling to understand how to make their Ferrari package work" Don't worry, not even Ferrari can understand how it works

@mrguest3749

3 жыл бұрын

ooof

@sahilsanil9662

3 жыл бұрын

OOUUCHHHHH 😂😂😂

@jexzielrivera

3 жыл бұрын

Shoot that is hard🤣🤣

@basdevries27

3 жыл бұрын

Ice cold 😂

@EM-ou2dn

3 жыл бұрын

I’m following Ferrari tradition by saying ‘next year will be our year’

My cousin a non f1 fan: "I thought they all looked the same anyway lol"

@alexpotterson9119

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, same, I'm not an F1 fan but youtube reccomended me this and I'm like "Wait, they're different?!"

@stewartgrindlay9760

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe he works for Racing Point?

@mydickisunbelievablysmallb7098

3 жыл бұрын

Kill it

@sentranixyoutube

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexpotterson9119 I feel you 😂

@omar619kamis

3 жыл бұрын

im not f1 fan too. lmao i thought they all same. the only difference would be driver skill

Look out for them unveiling their new driver for next season, "Hewis Lamilton".

@tanzimmorshed3040

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@prxshxr

2 жыл бұрын

😂👍

@RealCosmosry

2 жыл бұрын

Vax Merstappen

@prxshxr

2 жыл бұрын

@@RealCosmosry Alexander Albon

@jimmyjames1411

2 жыл бұрын

No point to watching it bc Red Bull or mclaren will always be on podium

For some reason I read "Why don't F1 teams copy the slowest car?" Then I realized that's probably how Ferrari read it too

@Bagekeas

3 жыл бұрын

That's a creative joke bro I actually found it a little bit funny too

@zorayzair0968

3 жыл бұрын

Meme of the decade lol

@morganreading1127

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@despi7835

3 жыл бұрын

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

@pikosapikos13

3 жыл бұрын

You are not alone, I read the same thing as you and I'm a Ferrari supporter. 😂😭

Why did Ferrari copy the 2019 Williams car?

@dangerous_lemon7466

3 жыл бұрын

LOL

@built2jzlexus496

3 жыл бұрын

U won the internet

@owenmcdonald5806

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen this comment at least 100 actual times

@guillermohoffmann8417

3 жыл бұрын

Now Ferrari will get a 100 million fine which will help Williams to be back to the top :)

@stevensmith6874

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahbah perfect

Everyone: Copying other cars won't work. Ferrari: Hold my red Haas!

@fuckfirefox5114

3 жыл бұрын

Sauber 1997-2005: Hold my blue Ferrari.

@mlgswagboi72s47

3 жыл бұрын

Binotto in 2022: He does notta smasha me foking door.

@rfalcetti

3 жыл бұрын

Ligier 1995: Hold my dark blue Benetton.

@thomy1955

3 жыл бұрын

​@@mlgswagboi72s47 Pretty generous of you to think that Binotto will have a job in 2022

@We_know_somethings.....

3 жыл бұрын

This has made my day, excellent work.

It's totally impractical, but I'd love to see a seperate GP where every driver has the exact same car and it all comes down to the skill of the driver

@Jomztherope

2 жыл бұрын

Smells like f2 in here

@lukepc7477

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jomztherope kind of, yeah, but in F2 they have different aero setups as well. In my hypothetical GP, everyone would be thrown into the same car (let's say a Mercedes, which is fast, but also fairly easy to drive) with the same aero trims, fuels loads, etc. The only difference being driver and strategy.

@herzkine

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukepc7477 interesting though, because lots of people deem racing series with exact same material lame, somehow communism has been really made sour for people. :-D

@jame8618

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukepc7477 nah that wouldn’t work sadly. Some drivers prefer a planted car. Others prefer a twitchy car

@Ggg-qd1wd

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Indy 500 all those cars looks the same

I don't know but after seeing George Russell's performance in the Merc, it would be good to see who would win if the cars were all exactly the same

@nykhilsandhu

3 жыл бұрын

i think either lewis or max would win, with george not too far behind, would be interesting to see how seb vettel would do

@xk2107

3 жыл бұрын

Seb and Leclerc actually would 1-2 most races.

@humanperson.5947

3 жыл бұрын

@@xk2107 no

@questcomputer4545

3 жыл бұрын

That's how f2 works.

@Ramasenirama

3 жыл бұрын

Like formula e?

I'm fine with "inspiration" coming from other teams if it means that there are more fast cars and the racing is actually better!!

@CrippledMerc

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@sarifsamudra9970

3 жыл бұрын

Yup I agree Cause look if the bottom team not get sponsors and gonna bankruptcy Who gonna blame The TOP team FIA ?? Any one not gonna help them

@OomBako

3 жыл бұрын

agree! just look at Hungary Quali, Racing Points 3-4,, Stroll in 3rd place. while last season, Stroll rarely went on 3rd Quali session

@laserst1547

3 жыл бұрын

Whats the point of doing own development then? Why not just give all the teams the same car and race?

@kabelotshita4510

3 жыл бұрын

Go watch NASCAR then. This is formula 1.

4:20 how is Haas supposed to understand Ferrari's car if Ferrari themself dont understand their Car ??

@allwynpushparaj1461

3 жыл бұрын

Man, nailed it 😂

@Euclides287

3 жыл бұрын

Good point 🥴

@the_kovic

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. That's why the recent Haases are shit.

@anujadassanayake5732

3 жыл бұрын

I guess they weren't high enough

@longshot06

3 жыл бұрын

Nice

Otmar Zaffnauer “TONY STARK BUILT THIS MERCEDES IN A CAVE. FROM SCRAPS!!!” Andrew Green “I’m not Tony Stark” ...

When my professor got me peaking at a classmate's paper during a chemistry test I also told him I was just getting inspired by his work instead of copying. It didn't work

Although it is not ideal, if teams copy each other to a point that it creates closer and fairer racing then I am all for it, anything to show the drivers true skill

@soorajtomar9017

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agreed man

@TheEpicgamer2102

3 жыл бұрын

and Mercedes winning every year

@soorajtomar9017

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheEpicgamer2102 we can still have some Nico Rosbergs though Giving a good fight in the championship

@stefangrozev4425

3 жыл бұрын

Why not just have a stock car with stock parts and just leave it all to driver's skill in that case.

@arftrooper44

3 жыл бұрын

So you want to watch spec racing, check out F2/F3

“Tracing point” is honestly my favourite name for something ever.. makes me laugh every time 😂😂

@independantpanda9194

3 жыл бұрын

Why is it such a funny name?

@Zayats_MW

3 жыл бұрын

@@independantpanda9194 It's a play on "Racing Point" where it says Tracing instead meaning copying

@AsianCole

3 жыл бұрын

A Zander_HH “tracing” as in they took the blueprints of the merecedes and traced them and then rebranded them as their own car

@Tuck3tt

3 жыл бұрын

First time I've heard them being called Tracing Point, and I had to pause the video for a moment 😂

props for getting straight to the point and filling the 5 and a half minutes with actually useful info unlike so many other vids on subjects like these

Honestly I wouldn’t care is they copy each other, as long as the races become more competitive. Styria was fun.. I didn’t even pay attention to Mercedes

@ToumapassarZEZOCA

3 жыл бұрын

Styria was the worst race I've ever had the misfortune of seeing in my life

@timo4022

3 жыл бұрын

@@ToumapassarZEZOCA styria was epic

@KulibobCZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@timo4022 yes, because seeing both Red getting a lobotomy in T3 is epic

@planerunner4020

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine someone just cheating from you and saying that he nailed the exam, Well That is the case.

@chazhagenes6614

3 жыл бұрын

3:20 the Williams wing doesn't even work on a Williams car.

"Every Team has there own philosophy how to build the fastest car." *shows Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull* "Mercedes has a long, low, flat car. While Red Bull is short, with a step rake." Me: What about Ferrari? *Remembers the last 2 GP* Oh you said the fastest car. Nevermind. *Cries in Tifosi*

@arboris

3 жыл бұрын

oof

@akilh340

3 жыл бұрын

F

@Thunder-cj4ck

3 жыл бұрын

Pronto,JingelJjay

@JonManProductions

3 жыл бұрын

S🅱️inalla.

@kimemaru7650

3 жыл бұрын

Engine feels good much slower than before amazing

"If you put the front wing of the Mercedes on the Williams, it will go slower"......No it won't. It can't go any slower than it does at the moment.

@Daniel-wj9rz

3 жыл бұрын

You meant Ferrari

@sunil_de6856

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-wj9rz Yikes

@gregwood5083

2 жыл бұрын

Could go backwards... Haha

@disconunu3210

2 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-wj9rz nein he meant mercedes

This is the first time I’ve heard “Tracing Point” but it is genius. My new Fantasy F1 team name without a doubt!

I'd agree with you on the fact that copying and/or being inspired by other teams is certainly a grey area and it very much is good or bad depending on what side you're looking on it from. But, RP seems to have engineered it well, and as long as there is no insider trading between the 2 teams, I think that's completely fair. I also learnt today that the changing one part changes how the entire car works from your video, so thank you for the info!

The question isnt: "Why don't smaller teams copy the fastest car?" The question is: "Why did Ferrari copy the slowest car(Haasss) ?"

@chrishoffman73

3 жыл бұрын

Boi they didn't copy Haas (NOT HASS!), they copied Williams

@nemoschmitz2374

3 жыл бұрын

Hass = 'hatred' in German Haas = F1 team

@xhsxspectre

3 жыл бұрын

@@nemoschmitz2374 haas = typo in English

@xhsxspectre

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrishoffman73 Boiiii they copied their customer car.

@muhammadalifutama2662

3 жыл бұрын

Its the driver not the car

Tracing points car designer revealed how it was done: Ctrl+c

@claudiosolomon1324

3 жыл бұрын

Ctrl+v Mercedes: "yes but change something" Tracing point: "you mean like, the colour?"

@joshwilliams5835

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@spacegaming6297

3 жыл бұрын

Claudio Solomon OR: You mean like.... FOREVER?!

@aranigr1

3 жыл бұрын

Ctrl+A Ctrl+C Ctrl+V Repaint

@imran2nv

3 жыл бұрын

Then Ctrl+v into paint. Change to pink.

I feel 'Fans" are more concerned with who is the best driver, while the "Sport" (and all parties that entails) are concerned with who can build the fastest car. It's the never ending pull between the drivers championship and the constructors championship. Honestly I would think the majority of fans are far more concerned with the drivers championship and the FIA's rules and Regulations should follow suit. Because it's the fans that buy tickets and watch races etc. But then there is the counter argument to fans buying manufacturer merchandise from as small as a hat to an actual car at a dealership.

@olehoel77

3 жыл бұрын

Because we can only buy a Mercedes hat or car, not a Hamilton one.

@AD-df5tm

3 жыл бұрын

It's also Because if you build the best car then the best drivers will want to come drive for you. Drivers follow cars.

@jamieboer3466

3 жыл бұрын

@@AD-df5tm also money goes to constructors champions, drivers is just a title that gets constructors to pay some of their winnings

I'm happy to see competitive racing and the midfield pile at the moment is great to watch. So teams being inspired by the front runners just makes for a better outcome for the drivers, sponsors, the racing and the fans.

Every time a team comes up with a new innovation the first thing the other teams do is try to copy it so i dont have a problem with what Racing Point have done. If they were last there would be no protest

@Moribax85

3 жыл бұрын

but here lies the difference: 1 thing is seeing something revolutionary and trying to obtain the same result your way (like they did back in the day with ground effect, there were even cars with movable skirts), another is getting a carbon copy of a part, and that's where Racing Point allegedly falls. What Renault is saying is not that RP developed a part that looks and feels very similar, but they're implying RP got their hands somehow on the blueprints of the part, and just produced it, and that is against the rules, heavily

@19KeineGnade87

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Moribax85 Breakducts were put on the listed parts list this year RP bought the 2019 Mercedes Breakducts completly legal they don't need any blueprints. So RP now bought the Mercedes breakducts and then desighnt them a lidel bit diferent so they are in the rules, RP has nothing to fear.

@rockomax4284

3 жыл бұрын

@@Moribax85 I have a hard time to believe that Racing Point took pictures and managed to make a car that performs as well as the 2019 Mercedes. For years Racing Point/Force India tried to copy Red Bull and failed. Now they managed to copy a car within a year without problems. Suspicious that happens now when Daddy Stroll gets invested while being good friends with Toto Wolff. Next year as Aston Martin, which they both are heavily invested in.

@karlaidy7842

3 жыл бұрын

@@rockomax4284 watch the video main? B4 this RP like mashing mercedes and RB into one car...it is easier to copy one car instead of combining two car

@kaneki1056

3 жыл бұрын

@@rockomax4284 if rp was using mercedes parts it just makes sense to have a design similar to mercedes rather than something that is in contrast with it as the parts would be more suited for the design it was made for. if rp was buying parts from red bull then their red bull similar design would've been more successful and merrcedes parts mean better result with a design similar to mercedes

Conspiracy theory: racing point made corona virus so they’d have a good car for two seasons

@cabletelcontar5440

3 жыл бұрын

Egad! This is so true! I'm so woke now. It's not the Illuminati after all. It's Racing Point!!

@thesoberdrunkman9845

3 жыл бұрын

My favourite theory so far

@fezzes428

3 жыл бұрын

paid for by lance stroll and his daddy 😘

@xj_220

3 жыл бұрын

@@fezzes428 paid by norris and his rich daddy*

@Hnke90

3 жыл бұрын

If that's the case that must be the most far-fetched conspiracy ever! Hilarious! xD

'Racing point now has a good car for two seasons' Me, from the future: Oh boy you're in for a treat

@spacecats.

2 жыл бұрын

aged like milk lol

F1 cars to the untrained eye and without having a side-by-side look identical if not for the colors, anyway. As long as the races get closer and more interesting they can all be the same for what I care, to me F2 and FE are more interesting to watch and they have all the same car. Either take the risk in trying to make a copy work or make something you're certain how it works, they both take R&D and a lot of care.

Tracing point or Pink Mercedes? Imagine Crofty using Tracing Point😂

@EK-911

3 жыл бұрын

I’d die 😂😂

@adamsmith4953

3 жыл бұрын

I heard Tracing Point over the weekend and nearly died! LOL

@shiznuts

3 жыл бұрын

Force Replica Or my fav: Copy & Paste Racing Team

@andrewdotmp4

3 жыл бұрын

Neither of them are funny so it really doesnt matter

@matheusfernandes2102

3 жыл бұрын

How about Tracing Mercedes?

Imagine if ferrari copies mercedes next year, with the budget they have, they could make a very quick car

@Itssconnorr

3 жыл бұрын

Pim Prijs that’s why i hate Ferrari, all the money and not a lot of innovation. One day that brand name and racing Heritage will run out.

@Ramboost007

3 жыл бұрын

Ferrari management is too arrogant to even try that

@ScottCyclops

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ramboost007 italians are very proud.

@PlaySA

3 жыл бұрын

Part of the equation is the Mercedes power unit, that car wouldn't be even close to as effective as it is without it. In fact I would posit that the Racing Point car this year would be straight up bad if you stuck a Honda or Ferrari power unit in there

@aranigr1

3 жыл бұрын

Their main problem for Ferrari is the engine. I don't see copying body can help a lot.

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I just recently started watching f1 properly. And all i can say is, it’s quite pleasant to see middle ground teams like racing point bring competition to the table. Feels like it brought some life and competition to the sport

This means: The gap betwern the teams will be narrower, so the bigger ones will have to imorove in order to stay in front, which means higher development and faster cars, so yeah, I like to see this going on

@Moribax85

3 жыл бұрын

i'm afraid to say your point is nullified by 2 things: 1) the budget cap, to have development you have to invest, if you're capped on the amount of money you can spend, your development caps at some point aswell 2) why invest in development when your rivals will just copy you? at that point is just more efficient to let your rivals catch up, have all the exact same car, and just use all your budget to hire the best drivers This means development will actually stagnate, with progress only made in reliability, maybe

@nicolasgarcia8608

3 жыл бұрын

@@Moribax85 because being the First with a development will make your car faster, and you will collect more points until they copy your idea...IF ...and again..IF they do it well, because if they dont make a good copy, the advantage will be still there

@tchevrier

3 жыл бұрын

@@Moribax85 "why invest in development when your rivals will just copy you?" - because if your rivals are just copying you, then they will never catch up and you will maintain a technology advantage.

@tomfallon6257

3 жыл бұрын

@@Moribax85 This will definitely add another side to the sport. When was the last time all the drivers had a similar paced car? They can only go so fast around the track so this could lead to closer racing and more overtaking in a race.

@neergst

3 жыл бұрын

@@Moribax85 I "liked" the previous comment beofre reading this. you make very good points

I know everyone's saying "Oh this is good, teams copying others, because we'll have closer racing!" But in my opinion, this completely throws the whole spirit of F1 out the window; building your car from scratch, making it your own and developing it as the season goes on. Plus the fact the new running cost regulations will fix a lot of disparity between teams. There NEEDS to be that competitive edge fgs, that's what adds to the entertainment value!

@RyosukeTakahashiRX7

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone's just saying it because the Mercedes dominance bores them. Can't blame them though.

@herbertusdergmiatliche.338

3 жыл бұрын

Copying has been always a big factor in F1. And this is as it should be, otherwise the Mercedes would be in the lead forever now. Deal with it.

@eduardopuccini

3 жыл бұрын

You talk about "copying" like it was just copying and pasting things and it absolutely isn't like that when it comes to building a car. The fact that Racing Point got their W10 looking ass car working and performing in such manners is actually a miracle of engineering.

@gregortheoverlander4122

3 жыл бұрын

I def agree mostly. I think the car building is actually just as big if not bigger to me than the actual racing. If everyone had the same car... I dunno it would def be all about driver skill... but that isn't Formula 1 in my opinion.

@lordv1le859

2 жыл бұрын

The budget cap just keeps merc top, no one else can actually catch them they’re so far ahead

Congratulations on being on Trending!

Answer: because they don’t want stupid nicknames like Tracing Point

@GregBrownsWorldORacing

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, many people thought Racing Point was kind of a stupid name for an F1 team to begin with.

@borisssino

3 жыл бұрын

Greg Brown Its actually a really smart name, because it gives the ability to change their name. Since the “point” in racing point is actually just a dot (.), they can change their name to ... racing. They are therefore able to change their name to “aston martin racing.”.

@michaellavery4899

3 жыл бұрын

Should have kept Force India cos nothing funny rhymes with it. Except maybe Porsche India, but Porsche don't have an F1 team to copy. Or maybe Source India, but that would defeat the purpose of the joke.

@seventh-hydra

3 жыл бұрын

@@d.b.cooper1 It's not that they can't execute it. It's that this completely violates the spirit of the competition. Also on top of that, even teams that are behind, are looking for that next innovation that might guarantee success. Just copying year old designs from the front runners, guarantees that you will never do that.

@Ultrajuiced

3 жыл бұрын

@@borisssino That would be pretty genius :O

Honestly that answers a question I’ve had for years. Surely you’d just copy someone’s design but it’s never that straightforward obviously.

I think it would be more beneficial for every team to have the same power units as standard so then every team is equal and makes the racing more enjoyable for drivers fans and commentators as any driver can win it just comes down to pure driver skill ability and strategy

@jimjimsauce

Жыл бұрын

if you want competition based more on driver skill watch nascar or indycar lol

@HenriquePereira-en9su

Жыл бұрын

The risk is, if you depend on only one supplier, imagine the scandals that would happen if one team got more mechanical failiures than another? The conspiracy theories would take over the sport

I like the variety of car designs it makes it feel like the manufacturers actually had something to do with the car unlike nascar where they all look the same

I like the diversity between the car designs cause it shows you how the different teams strategise. Also shows their commitment to improve the cars and invest the money into making their cars faster.

Considering they already get many of their components from Mercedes it is a real 200 IQ solution to copy their aerodynamic package, as the parts were already build for that kind of aerodynamic philosophy.

Thank you for these videos I just got into the sport

Copying even from pictures is extremely difficult though. Get some clearance off by 1 mm and you have different airflow which doesn't work with the rest of your components. You made a perfect point that copying is easy, but understanding how to make it work is not. So I'm okay with copying. If done right, copying can lead to faster and faster cars because it reduces the effort you need to put into designing a fast car yourself, and you can spend that effort on improving the existing design. Basically, your starting position in design is already one step ahead by copying which gives more time and resources to spend on further improving that design. I think this will ultimately push design further.

Ah...The Racing Gods have finally blessed us with an F101 episode

Everyone: f1 would be so much more interessting if everyone had the same car!!! Tracing Point: Hold my beer Everyone: *confused pikatchu meme*

@shadowcoder19

3 жыл бұрын

more like... Tracing Point: Hold my camera

@RD-ht6go

3 жыл бұрын

They kinda do have one same car called Suzuki Liana Well, they did

F1 has purely become competition of team and the money they have, leaving the driver equation useless .. I would like to see more of individual drivers skill and team work balanced.

@BRPJR

3 жыл бұрын

Won't work without the other, really. This is why Rossi left Ducati and came back to Yamaha.

I would agree with this. Every change in rule which is providing the drivers with more equal opportunities is very welcome for me. I want to a fair as possible competition and so it makes sense to allow copying or even equal parts for the teams. Until 1980 it was allowed to purchase all parts from other teams and so copying an entire car. Within the American CART Championship this is also allowed even today, what makes smaller teams more competitive and reduces costs massively. In my opinion a great idea even for the formula 1.

I'll be honest, if it takes Mercedes copy to fight Mercedes domination so be it.

@fartacusxd6598

3 жыл бұрын

its still one year older so yeah

@GinoNL

3 жыл бұрын

Put max and charles in the pink mercedes and things would turn around.

@tommoran798

3 жыл бұрын

@@GinoNL doubtful, the redbull is faster, and Charles is still showing hes only a rookie

@GinoNL

3 жыл бұрын

@@tommoran798 I would advise you to start watching 2020 f1.

@DeployTheDRS

3 жыл бұрын

Joe Felony I am and I can still see that Charles is just a rookie and the red bull is faster.

Tracing point 😂😂, I think every team should just buy Mercedes Power Units and brakes, and try to poach an ex Mercedes engineer or two..

@rhodrage

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine Ferrari-Mercedes and Renault-Mercedes

I see a lot of comments regarding an emphasis on constant innovation, and I had a question/idea: What if, after a season, new innovations were made available (at cost) to any team which wishes to acquire those innovations? That way you maximize performance year over year, as well as forcing (incentivizing) constant innovation every season. Your team can have a solid season with a significant advantage, but forces teams to find other ways/methods to improve even more in the next season, or face competition with the same advantages your team exclusively had in the prior season. I'm not a huge F1 fan, but I've seen a few races in person (Monaco GP and Budapest GP) as well as online. So if you have insights as to why this might be negative, I'm all ears and curious to hear why this may be naive or a bad idea!

I always end up watching random videos on youtube while also listening to new bands I like like Delta Parole and that, is how I end up on this circuis video spree right now.

Pink w10: nearly spins out albon Albon: Vietnam flashbacks

@marcoslukaz5178

3 жыл бұрын

this sentence would have worked if albon gets punted in Vietnam GP

@watersnortmoment3734

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcoslukaz5178 It still works.

@sandenson

3 жыл бұрын

Pink W10: **Destroys itself** Albon: "Karma!"

Let’s take a minute to appreciate how good it would be to hear Crofty say *AND THE TRACING POINT IS GOING WHEEL TO WHEEL WITH THE REAL MERCEDES Edit: thanks for the likes

@volarknight5427

3 жыл бұрын

I read that in the crofty voice and it was awesome. Like I actually heardit

@jakefinch8997

3 жыл бұрын

Volarknight looooool I can just imagine😂

@berniewong1110

3 жыл бұрын

I guess the real Merc allowed this to happen because something (DAS) cannot be copied 😆

@AHR_James

3 жыл бұрын

I'm still trying to find a way of muting him! Can't stand him shouting!

i think identical is an overstatement, taking from what works in the past has always been done, need someone to still innovate but sure makes sense to shift that philosophy, to me I find it regretable that the engines used have made it so theres very little choice but we will see, the new rulesets will certainly be a massive change on all teams ends, also taking inspiration can compromise you and usually makes you behind the one that carried it first, but in this case it was done well enough to be decent running and thats fine for the position they are in.

Now I didn't really see differences between the cars before I looked a close-up pics, I would be okay with copying as long as the races are competitive, but I would also like to see bigger differences in the designs of cars between teams like it was in the early days

Copying is likely to be a midfield move Topteams (like rb & ferrari) copying the best car (merc) wont work because you cant beat the original, but you can move up the ladder in the tight midfield

@ronaldzhao

3 жыл бұрын

Ferrari is definitely a top team

They should have used imperial drawings so when the FIA compare Mercedes and racing point drawings they could say look the shaft is 25.4mm on the Mercedes and on our car it’s 1inch.

One of the big reasons I enjoy F1 is the design and engineering, once everyone copies from each other there will be only 1 car to loo at in amazement compared to 10.

@andersonneil2293

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think so, if everyone has the same car then you need to pretty confident that you have the best, or one of the best drivers. If you take the risk to make your car better, then you don't have to take your chances on your driver.

I really like this channel, so I subscribed to it! WTF1 FOR THE WIN!

If it makes the racing more competitive I’m happy with anything tbh

For me personally, assuming that is all within the sporting regulations. I'm all for it. I mean Racing Point are simply trying to get the best from their limited resources comparitive to the big teams and although it was a risk the risk seems to have paid off. I'm sure leoi would care if they were off the pace.

That front nose design is what gives it speed, from any angle it sustains supreme downforce without drag loss. I know as I work for tracing point currently gripping my tracing paper, with myy tracing point pen enjoying the mid field trolling.

1:37 FYI McLaren never "stole" anything from Ferrari. They accepted an illegal offer. Subtle difference but I'm not having any of your "stolen" arguement.

tbh even if all had same cars it would still be fun seeing them racing like f2 and formula e

@tommasoferrini2809

3 жыл бұрын

Charles Szasz here we go with another fanboy

@theracingline6999

3 жыл бұрын

@Charles Szasz Max and Lewis*

@molexi6537

3 жыл бұрын

@Charles Szasz Wouldn't be F1 anymore though. F1 is an engineering competition where the cars are the main competitors, the drivers are there to take the maximum out of them... or bring money lol.

@JFein

3 жыл бұрын

That sentence should’ve stopped at F2

@Zeiss120

3 жыл бұрын

But it would no longer be "Pinnacle" of Motorsports, would just be open cockpit spec series

Williams is suying Ferrari for copying it's 2019 car

@Investorpotamus

3 жыл бұрын

lol that's funny

@Amonfobious

3 жыл бұрын

Theyre what

@ohue

3 жыл бұрын

@@Amonfobious yusing Ferrari

@Ethefake

3 жыл бұрын

suying, my favorite thing to see

@dnnyz

3 жыл бұрын

can't tell if its buying or sueing

1:38 just wanted to say that mclaren didnt “steal” anything, a ferrari insider literally gave the documents to some mclaren officials, and the team used this. Great video, keep it up! :D

Yes lets all just copy each other and make identical cars, that way we'll know for sure who's the faster driver

@madtechnocrat9234

3 жыл бұрын

indycar?

@dantecoates9513

3 жыл бұрын

@@madtechnocrat9234 i was thinking more like f2

"Each Team has their own idea on how to build the fastest car" *shows Ferrari*

F1 in the future : 4 merc team , 3 ferrari team, 2 RB team and renault ... no innovation, just copy/past

@Zestyclose-Big3127

3 жыл бұрын

_Ferrari as they won the championship using Lancias:_

@leetman102

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly you're not wrong. With this shitstorm right now It might be a while before anyone comes up with anything innovative. Sure there might be some improvements here and there but I don't see a massive breakthrough for another 2-3 years.

@06802ytta

3 жыл бұрын

True, If theres a new team, they will just copy Ferrari, or RB

@vasishtvasudevan4059

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the time when Newey designed the cars for bothRB teams

@mateuszzimon8216

3 жыл бұрын

IRC Toto have shares in 30% MB F1 team, idk numbers in Williams and 1% in Aston Martin (global, not F1 team).... Toto just buy F1 partialy, also Susie owns some shares in FE MB EQ team

I don't have too much of an issue because as you said, getting it to look the same is one thing, getting it to actually work is quite another

Well i think if we have like 3 or 4 concepts which are shared for the teams then I would expect close racing with benefits for some teams at maybe circuits with long straits and other teams have benefits at slower circuits and I think that would be much more fun to watch

I honestly didn’t even know that different manufacturers had different cars, I thought they were all the same😂😂🤷🏾‍♂️

Lance: Daddy buy me a Williams Lawrence: here you are son Lance: it’s not good enough, buy me a force India Lawrence: here you are son Lance: it’s still not good enough, but me a Mercedes Lawrence: here you are son, unfortunately it’s pink Lance: it’s ok, I still can’t beat my teammate

@zNoah

3 жыл бұрын

Lance: At least I can play with Ricciardo now

@Drew-.-

3 жыл бұрын

Dont hate the player hate the game.

@cosmin751

3 жыл бұрын

I actually think Stroll is a decent midfield driver. He's only 21, so he has time to improve further. In the past drivers used to get into F1 later: Hakkinen at 23, Schumi at 22, Senna at 24, Mansell at 27, Damon Hill at 32!

@claycopter

3 жыл бұрын

@@cosmin751 In the past those drivers also had pace.

@christopherarenas9776

3 жыл бұрын

Lawrence: Kicks our Perez

I think even if the cars become more similar there will still be teams who deviate and innovate. It could lead to an exciting year when a smaller team upsets the projections because they took a new design direction.

@cheesebusiness

Жыл бұрын

The F1 rules limit the freedom of innovations significantly. F1 of 80th was full of diversity and innovations.

I think ultimately the copying of certain techniques as well as knowledge is always a good thing at the end of the day. Think about it this way, if everyone just starts using the next best technology it will only mean that we can begin working on even better technology to further our understanding. It's basically the idea of evolution to a certain extent. That is as long that it is common knowledge who invented/used the technology first so as to give credit to the people who deserve it.

1:01 Look at the resemblence!

5:22 you could argue that Racing would rely more on the skill of the Drivers, but I like variety and I don't like copying. (Frow germany so please excuse spelling errors.)

@agontprevarator5214

3 жыл бұрын

Excuses spelling errors, makes none... except that english is not german, nouns don't start with a capital letter

As someone who doesn't follow F1, it's extremely difficult to even tell the cars apart, aside from colors. Personally, I'd like it if originality were encouraged heavily through some means or another, however, it might unfairly benefit big budget teams who can afford to take risks, while conventional teams would be stuck with what's already available. Even so, it would be neat if there was some way to incentivize people to think up radically different designs.

Thankyou. So much. For clarifying

*Tracing Point* : Yo Mercedes, can I copy your homework? *Mercedes* : Of course, just make sure you change some of it so it doesn't look that obvious!

good job on f2 matt!

if there are no regulations against it, something i would like to see is less lift from the body. no contouring that slopes down in back, to allow the wings to be more effective, and maybe even allowing for active wing angles. things that would mean better use of the cars power like seen in the delta concept, but without being a tripod.

Exactly what i was wondering

I’m just bored of the same 3 fighting for the podium. If we can get 5 or 6 teams fighting that would be more appealing

@mahadbawany2641

2 жыл бұрын

You mean two right now lol

As long as it means more competitive racing I’m totally fine with it

@user-pv1vq8ee2t

3 жыл бұрын

Engineering is also competitive. Good car + good driver= win. Bad car + good driver= loss or the other way around.

Great vid!

It wld b great to see all cars the same coz then we wld see which drivers are truly talented if everyone was in same equipment.

I would like to see similar cars, so there would be closer racing.

@acerolavermelhinha1525

3 жыл бұрын

Agree. No problem! We just want to see skill and a closer race.

@charlieking9924

3 жыл бұрын

I think even carswould make it unbelievably hard to overtake

@Zuliano87

3 жыл бұрын

That is not the Tenor of Formula 1 and never was. The Pinnacle of Motorsport should not only consist of the Battles between the Drivers but between the Constructors and Part Suppliers aswell. Why not watch Indycar instead? They have all the same car.

@bagashadi8327

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah like formula e does, that's the only thing that i like the most about formula e

@valenesco45

3 жыл бұрын

Yuck

“Lemme see that wing” 😂

Most of them are hard to distinguish from each other anyway if painted all black (or other identical livery). I can recognize some of them, like that one McLaren nose from 2018. But even that got changed at some point in the season so i don't even know when they ran it.

0:42 correction: giving Alex Albon a tough time XD

I'd like to witness every vehicle being identical, to see who really is the best driver

@connorheino7343

3 жыл бұрын

If every vehicle is identical aren't you just finding who's the best at driving that specific car? F1 is decided by constructor which is unfortunate but I think you still need some variability in the cars to find the best driver just because of different driving styles.

@hairohukosu433

3 жыл бұрын

Thats just formula E

@kurrymurry

3 жыл бұрын

@@connorheino7343 but the driver can still adjust different settings on the car to his liking, you know all the technical stuff like how much front/rear wing he wants, tire pressures, tire camber, suspension stiffness, brake bias, on/off throttle differential etcetc each driver would still be able to customize it to his own preferences but the on paper performance of each car would be the same. sounds good?

@oliviersavard8676

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah nah, there are already tons of series with identical or near identical cars, especially with open-wheels cars, and F1 never was about all cars being identical. It'd get more boring, because the only reason a series will get the same car for every driver is to keep costs down, but F1 isn't only a driver's championship, it's also a constructor's championship as well

@thapelomashaomasemola7922

3 жыл бұрын

@@oliviersavard8676 but they are identical, the same chassis, same engines, its like saying two golf r with different engine tunes are different, whats so innovative in 10 teams developing the same 1.6l v6 turbo with the same mgu spec, F1 lost its identity 30 years ago

I would like a special Race circuit that have the cars all same(exactly same). It would come down to what drivers and crew can pull off in such an event will be remarkable. And the points distribution should be much higher for such a race. I don't watch F1 quite often and don't know much about it but thats my idea right there.

@junioradult6219

2 жыл бұрын

Is that not pretty much NASCAR

I think more similarity between cars would be good. It would make the results more based on a drivers skill, not the bank account of the team

This one reminds me of Japan’s first jet engine in WWII, where they straight up copied Germany’s turbojet design just by looking at pictures of them. I’m pretty sure if the submarines carrying the turbojet components arrived in Japan, the development time would’ve been cut short significantly. They had to make do with the wartime situation, thus creating the NK-20 based on the BMW-003 design. Any idiot can copy a homework and get away with it, but it takes some brain power to understand what you’re copying. Great writeup! Once again, they copied the Germans heh.

@cheesebusiness

Жыл бұрын

USSR copied everything too

IMO the race should be about skill not who has more money to throw at the car... This basically means that unless you have some completely new game changing idea you can't start up in the racing business because the big boys designs are already established and can't be copied. Let anyone use anything that is actually allowed, then all that really matters is skill in driving. Another case of the rich having way more say and power than everyone else... disgusting.

@kiracollins257

2 жыл бұрын

Nah. It's a team sport. Especially for the next season where you have spending cap

@muizzkazi5432

2 жыл бұрын

"The rich having more....it's disgusting". What about ingenuity and talent of the maker of that engine because somebody has to come up with that concept. Imagine your work being stolen and used by others just tp satisfy your twisted sense of morality.

The on track action is what's most important. Compared to the mid 70s the modern cars would look very similar to each other without sponsor logos and team livery. Look at the distinct front end of the brabham and a Tyrrell with 6 wheels. I think this video said it best when it made the argument about taking someone else's design concept and making it work.

I kinda like that RP did that move. It mixes up the grid and that always nice.

5:20 So much so that they look identical? Me: Oh F1 cars are different?

@xander1052

3 жыл бұрын

pretty much only was able to tell the difference between the Merc and RP from the rest, as they had unique noses and the merc is low rake, and now even they are basically identical to one another!

@AbrahamArthemius

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the nose is definitely the biggest part if the car to differentiate it from another (if we painted the cars all black). Mercedes (and Tracing Point) has this spoon shaped nose, RB has a thin nose which look like a scuba diver mask, Renault is quite curvy and round, McLaren is started thin and gets wider at the end, while the rest of the team are following Ferrari which has this wide & blocky looking nose.

@retro34

3 жыл бұрын

The only people who can't differentiate the cars unless they're painted different colours are the ones who watch the races to see the pretty boy win

@garymitchell5899

3 жыл бұрын

@@xander1052 RP are under investigation for potentially illegal brake ducts. Mercedes aren't. That's because they are different.

@xander1052

3 жыл бұрын

@@garymitchell5899 That's not how it works, RP are under investigation to see if they copied mercedes's brake ducts, which is why the 2019 Merc brake ducts have been requested by the FIA, to compare to the 2020 Racing Point.

The diffrence between me and racing points is that im not getting caught