Why the Air Force made Lockheed invent a stealth POLE

When Lockheed’s legendary F-117 Nighthawk first entered service in 1983, it brought with it a revolution in military aviation. After decades of focusing on the development of higher and faster-flying aircraft to avoid enemy air defenses, the Nighthawk proved that, through a radar-defeating design, a subsonic aircraft could actually be more survivable.
What followed was decades worth of stealth innovation, competition, and advancement… but before the Nighthawk could change the world, it was up to Ben Rich, the head of Lockheed’s famed Skunk Works at the time, to sell the Air Force on the idea.
And in order to do that, Skunk Works first had to invent a stealth pole for the Air Force.
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  • @piotrjasielski
    @piotrjasielski Жыл бұрын

    As a Pole I'm very proud of my compatriot's great achievement. I hope stealthy Poles keep revolutionizing the military.

  • @vevenaneathna

    @vevenaneathna

    Жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @Chrisknot94

    @Chrisknot94

    Жыл бұрын

    Underrated comment

  • @stonefish1318

    @stonefish1318

    Жыл бұрын

    I am a stealthy pole too 🦿

  • @evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879

    @evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879

    Жыл бұрын

    ......I gotta be honest: Kinda making me want to Invade your nation, with that dad joke. 🤷‍♂️ you honestly got me to me think, for the first time ever, "Nah, I was wrong and didn't look at it from your side fully, Germany. The whole Invasion of Poland thing.....I understand where you were coming from a tiny bit now, Germany. I mean, morally....I wouldn't have acted the same (I mean, make a snarky, unfunny post or something. don't kill people and try to take over the world about it. Geez.) but.... I almost get one of your points now, 'Circa Just Before WWII Germany.' " Poland: who needs em? 🤷‍♂️ I shouldn't have to say this but: ☝👆 .....all jokes. None of it was meant seriously. I just don't want SJW's or White Knight type of people to get confused and offended over a joke. I also don't want to be rude and feel obligated to hand feed the fact that it's a joke to Poles. A joke, Poles, is meant to be funny and not actually an insult, in this case. 👍 😉

  • @TheMelbournelad

    @TheMelbournelad

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you sure you’re a pole with SKI in last name

  • @navret1707
    @navret1707 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on the award. I remember that article and it was excellent. You are certainly on a level with Aviation Week and Space Tech. 👏👏👏

  • @marcoskush3512

    @marcoskush3512

    Жыл бұрын

    work

  • @NoName-ds5uq
    @NoName-ds5uq Жыл бұрын

    I never thought I’d enjoy watching a story about a pole! Congratulations on your award!

  • @jake3551

    @jake3551

    Жыл бұрын

    I dunno, a lot of interesting things can happen on a pole

  • @dillan6134

    @dillan6134

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jake3551 and they’re worth every dollar lol

  • @lfoster4525

    @lfoster4525

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dillan6134 😂😂😂

  • @z50com
    @z50com Жыл бұрын

    I'm hoping you get invited to the debut of the B-21, your recent award might be just the ticket. Congratulations Alex

  • @stemartin6671
    @stemartin6671 Жыл бұрын

    The f117 has to be my personal favourite aircraft ever. So iconic and imo, so aggressive looking. Blew my mind the first time I ever saw pictures of one.

  • @deusexaethera

    @deusexaethera

    Жыл бұрын

    It was a flying brick, though. Not very good at being a fighter. It was mainly a proof of concept for radar stealth technology.

  • @josharnold4638

    @josharnold4638

    Жыл бұрын

    What’s so incredibly complex about this? Isn’t it almost self evident that if you detract a radar wave away from an object attempting to be detected, and identified , to me, it seems like basic physics and Geometry. I don’t think I know it all, but it seems like a pretty simple principle to me. Playing Billiards is a simple geometric/ Physics game, nearly anyone can play with some simple obvious action/reaction Newtons law. It seems pretty simple to me. I have cataracts, so I know I probably makemade oneword spelling errors here, because I can’t always accurately determine what letters U I touched. Anyway…… I couldn’t see well enough to fix all my errors. I come from a science family on my dad’s side, so maybe that’s why it seems simple to me.

  • @stemartin6671

    @stemartin6671

    Жыл бұрын

    @@josharnold4638 calm yourself down petal, I was talking about how I thought of the plane. When it came out it looked so different and radical compared to anything else at the time. Especially to me as a child.

  • Жыл бұрын

    Too bad Chinese got their hands on a crashed f117 in serbia and reverse engineered the shit out of it. Along with all the secret documents hacked from boing and lockeed martin servers by individuals paid by china. USA did all the r&d and china built their J20 and H20 based off it without all the hassle & cost. Having an edge in technology doesn't mean shit when you can't protect it. And thanks to all these, China now rivals USA's world domination.

  • @gaijinmq-9when951

    @gaijinmq-9when951

    Жыл бұрын

    @@deusexaethera a no shit sherlock moment right here who told you the F-117 was a fighter?

  • @chrislong3938
    @chrislong3938 Жыл бұрын

    According to my wife, I've had a stealth pole for years!

  • @yamoto1833

    @yamoto1833

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @kevinw8593
    @kevinw8593 Жыл бұрын

    I love that moment where a person who has grown to admire someone great in a field that they are passionate about, wins an award on par with something that the person they admire would win. It then takes them a bit of time to realize they are the next generation, they are the legend now, the person who will be considered one of the best in their field for the coming future. We all already realize it, but it takes a minute to soak it in. Congrats on the award, we all know just how good you are at what you do.

  • @matchesburn
    @matchesburn Жыл бұрын

    8:59 ...Of course. Even when it comes to building a pole, Lockheed still manages to find a way to somehow screw-over Northrop.

  • @grahamrushall6044
    @grahamrushall6044 Жыл бұрын

    Alex your professionalism and humble approach is so refreshing. You deserve all the accolades and positive vibes you receive. Keep up the great work.

  • @LukeBunyip

    @LukeBunyip

    Жыл бұрын

    "Scott Manley" levels of delivery and humour.

  • @michaelkrentzin
    @michaelkrentzin Жыл бұрын

    An award well deserved, and many more in the future. Your work is second to none.

  • @LostAnFound
    @LostAnFound Жыл бұрын

    CONGRATULATIONS! Having grown up on a diet of flying, pouring over the big, hard-cover Jane's books and memorizing aircraft specs (wish they'd bring them back), watching Wings, etc, etc, I know what professional aerospace coverage looks like, and you deliver! I am elated that you received this prize and recognition, and hope it aids in propelling you forward in the field. Cheers!

  • @blue6gun
    @blue6gun Жыл бұрын

    It was funny that they would raise and take down their F117 models between soviet satellite intervals to keep it from being seen but they were able to take that infrared picture of White Sands and were able to see the silhouette of what was on the pole just from the shape of the Nighthawks shadow making a cool spot on the sand lol. Awesome video man, always love learning something new about that old plane :)

  • @marcalvarez4890

    @marcalvarez4890

    Жыл бұрын

    CIA actually played with this fact, which they knew about, and built strange models of non existent plane shapes to fuck with the soviets. Little got by the CIA.

  • @JoshuaC923

    @JoshuaC923

    Жыл бұрын

    @@marcalvarez4890 that's hilarious 😂

  • @The_ZeroLine

    @The_ZeroLine

    Жыл бұрын

    That is impressively brainy stuff.

  • @mosthatedandroidtunernolim9800

    @mosthatedandroidtunernolim9800

    Жыл бұрын

    All done buy cia to throw em off

  • @udeychowdhury2529
    @udeychowdhury2529 Жыл бұрын

    Your videos are nuanced and really insightful, glad for your recognition

  • @MojoKc2244
    @MojoKc2244 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations, Alex. This award is well deserved. Keep up the great work.

  • @chrissartain4430
    @chrissartain4430 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on All your work Alex. This is exactly why you have risen to a national statis because of your hard work and commitment to your readers and subscribers. Keep up the great work! And Thank You!

  • @Fairly_Epic
    @Fairly_Epic Жыл бұрын

    Congrats, Alex... well done. Been watching since the early days so it's cool to see you be recognized.

  • @gregderise9969
    @gregderise9969 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on being recognized with the award, and congratulations on another outstanding video. I knew they had put a model on a pole but I didn’t know about the fascinating story of the stealth pole. Very interesting!

  • @24tanksalot
    @24tanksalot Жыл бұрын

    Simply a great video deal please keep them coming

  • @billmorrison3714
    @billmorrison3714 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! This video answered a question I asked years ago. Congratulations on your much deserved award.

  • @mikeprez6562
    @mikeprez6562 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations , you definitely deserve it. Never miss any of your videos.

  • @Senai
    @Senai Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on the award Alex, I look forward to your content everyday.

  • @eltacsyms5607
    @eltacsyms5607 Жыл бұрын

    Thats very impressive, congratulations! And the way you handled it all, very apropos and professional. I've subscribed. Please keep up the great work.

  • @gorethegreat
    @gorethegreat Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I love your research, knowledge, presentation and passion that comes out in these videos.

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer Жыл бұрын

    When they were testing the have blue stealth model on the radar range, the technician asked them to make sure it hadn't fallen off because he couldn't see it. The plane was actually still on the pylon and just about the time a bird landed on the have blue model, the radar technician says I see it now. This is not a direct quote but it's in Ben Rich's book about the skunk works. It's a great book if you haven't read it I strongly suggest it.

  • @evrydayamerican
    @evrydayamerican Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the award you deserve it. You do a great job bringing us Defense news without no bull crap which is hard to find. Thanks Alex USA

  • @benthekorean
    @benthekorean Жыл бұрын

    I saw this article on your website and I was hoping you'd make a video and here you are delivering yet again!!

  • @michaeldenesyk3195
    @michaeldenesyk3195 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats Alex, well does!

  • @ernest795
    @ernest795 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the award. Your content is top notch so I am glad you are being recognized for it by the industry.

  • @valentinlopez6189
    @valentinlopez6189 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations! You worked hard and diligently!

  • @BilboCameron
    @BilboCameron Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on the award. I'm not surprised at all as both your writing and videos are world class journalism. I hope you win several more.

  • @marcondespaulo
    @marcondespaulo Жыл бұрын

    As I said to some friends, your videos mix an overview of technical stuff with sources for more detailed research into various topics. Its quite a hard work to distill such stuff without dumbing it down. Despite me not being a military (or aviation) buff, I quite like because of the tech.

  • @__hjg__2123
    @__hjg__2123 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats Alex ... well deserved!

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera Жыл бұрын

    Next up: Stealth pole _dancers._ "Are they even onstage? I can't see anything, just some tassels swirling around in the air!"

  • @Stoney_AKA_James
    @Stoney_AKA_James Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations Alex, it's about time you get the recognition that you deserve!

  • @rogerdagg3156
    @rogerdagg3156 Жыл бұрын

    I new there was a reason I listened to this channel. award winning congratulations 🎊

  • @jackwells2924
    @jackwells2924 Жыл бұрын

    Always a good day when you upload! Congrats on the award you definitely deserve it .

  • @valentinlopez6189
    @valentinlopez6189 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @raydelien7947
    @raydelien7947 Жыл бұрын

    Skunk Works was such a good book.

  • @khaldrago911
    @khaldrago911 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on the award, Alex! I’m certain it’s the first of many to come! Keep up the great work.

  • @thepassman
    @thepassman Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations getting recognized and awarded for your efforts! Always enjoy your videos and I am always learning something new.

  • @3isr3g3n
    @3isr3g3n Жыл бұрын

    Conrgatulations on the award! Outstanding content as always!

  • @BionicRusty
    @BionicRusty Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations, Alex 🥳 Very well deserved. 👏👏👏👏 And a great story. 😄

  • @jdiluigi
    @jdiluigi Жыл бұрын

    You earned that award man. Top notch stories with great presentation. 👏👏👏

  • @joshvanguard852
    @joshvanguard852 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats mate , you do great work , keep it up 😎👊

  • @secretagent07
    @secretagent07 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations Alex! -Fan of your channel

  • @michaelinsc9724
    @michaelinsc9724 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on the award! Welcome to SC and I hope you enjoy your stay and that you get great info at Fort Jackson.

  • @taeharte7501
    @taeharte7501 Жыл бұрын

    Again a great video!

  • @richardlee9825
    @richardlee9825 Жыл бұрын

    You deserve the award !!! Congratulations !! nobody can make an interesting 11minute video on a just POLE. Keep it up.

  • @lestermarshall6501
    @lestermarshall6501 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations ! Skunk Works was one of the best books I ever read. Another one was BLIND MANS BLUFF. It's about what some of our subs were doing in the cold war.

  • @SlowrideSteve
    @SlowrideSteve Жыл бұрын

    Love your work

  • @WasabiSniffer
    @WasabiSniffer Жыл бұрын

    I imagine this would be useful for measuring RCS for any aircraft more accurately. Meanwhile I’m over here thinking of stealth missiles

  • @jakeaurod

    @jakeaurod

    Жыл бұрын

    They had a stealth ALCM (AGM-129) but it had issues, so they ditched it in favor of staying with the non-stealth design (AGM-86). May as well let the Russkies know the nukes are coming and give them a few moments to think about what they did before the end arrives.

  • @louiscervantez1639
    @louiscervantez1639 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff! Very interesting!

  • @Kolor-kode
    @Kolor-kode Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the award Alex, well deserved!

  • @cccalifornia7206
    @cccalifornia7206 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Alex! 👍😃🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👊👏

  • @robertojofre15
    @robertojofre15 Жыл бұрын

    congrats on the award brother, great videos as always

  • @jerrybarrax5618
    @jerrybarrax5618 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations Alex! :-)

  • @mikebridges20
    @mikebridges20 Жыл бұрын

    Alex: first, congratulations on the award: your work is certainly deserving of such accolades. And thanks for bringing such defense esoterica to us in a way that is always entertaining and educational.

  • @droflores590
    @droflores590 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats man!!!

  • @bobstovall5449
    @bobstovall5449 Жыл бұрын

    I'm not the least bit surprised at your award. You are, easily, the best defense industry writer and, maybe even the best WRITER, PERIOD, plying the trade. Congratulations!

  • @BIGTIMBERFILMS
    @BIGTIMBERFILMS Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video.

  • @stevea2909
    @stevea2909 Жыл бұрын

    You're our Aviation Whsiperer with the gravelly voice! I search out old content to get my fix all the time! Congrats on the award and to all that come!

  • @kevinphillips9408
    @kevinphillips9408 Жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @myemail21479
    @myemail21479 Жыл бұрын

    Incredible story brought to us by an expert storyteller. There is a reason you win nice awards, your communication is top notch. Thank you for the wonderful entertainment, and a little knowledge.

  • @zeezee15
    @zeezee15 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on winning the award. I came across your channel thanks to Ward Carroll and haven't looked back. Good uploads all the time!

  • @dejesusmouse9841
    @dejesusmouse9841 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations u deserve it keep making great videos 👍👍👍

  • @RedBeardTheFirst
    @RedBeardTheFirst Жыл бұрын

    I love the story of the stealth pole

  • @blahahtheelder4343
    @blahahtheelder4343 Жыл бұрын

    I love this channel and its content. You deserve awards!

  • @connorray7654
    @connorray7654 Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff

  • @davidfell5496
    @davidfell5496 Жыл бұрын

    A nice recounting.

  • @garybrotherton5732
    @garybrotherton5732 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the honor, Alex!

  • @pastorrich7436
    @pastorrich7436 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on the award Alex! I have to agree with the selection committee. That was an excellent article!!

  • @RomanBartocci
    @RomanBartocci Жыл бұрын

    Congrats! Well deserved!

  • @rjeffm1
    @rjeffm1 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations, BZ!

  • @actionjksn
    @actionjksn Жыл бұрын

    Great story and you deserve the award.

  • @Speedy-vy4kq
    @Speedy-vy4kq Жыл бұрын

    Best story about a pole on KZread.

  • @youjustgotcarled
    @youjustgotcarled Жыл бұрын

    Congrats man, you deserve it

  • @cohibaav8or
    @cohibaav8or Жыл бұрын

    I've seen that pole or it's sister! I've been to lockheed's radar test range facility in the SoCal high desert when that facility during a family day tour when a relative worked there. Clearly all of the test models and other sensitive stuff was hidden. The pole had an asymmetric calibration model mounted on it. We got to go down to the bottom of the pit where it retracts underground. Also got to see the radar image of the calibration model. Interestingly one of the radar images they showed us had a bird flying through the test range and the bird was significantly more reflective than the pole or calibration model. The radar array was like a drive-in movie screen. Very impressive stuff to my then teenage aviation fanatic eyes.

  • @timandsuzidickey9358
    @timandsuzidickey9358 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent

  • @leeofallon
    @leeofallon Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on award - you deserve it! Pls do some tutorials on radar in general, including gems like the POLE. Thx 🤓

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Жыл бұрын

    This certainly gives new meaning to the term, *_"pole position."_* 😊😊😊

  • @pro_gemer
    @pro_gemer Жыл бұрын

    congrats on the award mate! keep up the good work

  • @NinjaRunningWild
    @NinjaRunningWild Жыл бұрын

    What an awesome story!

  • @benqenobe
    @benqenobe Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on the award, you deserve it!

  • @andrewcannon8552
    @andrewcannon8552 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe not your wheel house but an episode exploring the objective data around UAPs and their capabilities would be a cool watch!

  • @gregiep
    @gregiep Жыл бұрын

    Such a cool story!

  • @GwynCole
    @GwynCole Жыл бұрын

    Many congratulations on the award!!

  • @phathokum1855
    @phathokum1855 Жыл бұрын

    Cover the space force shuttle. The plane that is sent into space and lands on an airstrip like the discontinued space shuttle.

  • @aviation95514
    @aviation95514 Жыл бұрын

    amazing

  • @kennypowerz1267
    @kennypowerz1267 Жыл бұрын

    It's gonna be interesting to watch

  • @Blueskies885
    @Blueskies885 Жыл бұрын

    Gotta love the military complex

  • @danielh248
    @danielh248 Жыл бұрын

    I love the story!!!

  • @buildingandfixing4397
    @buildingandfixing4397 Жыл бұрын

    sandbox news never miss a drop? why not never miss a grain?

  • @markhensley4397
    @markhensley4397 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations!

  • @georgejoseph4164
    @georgejoseph4164 Жыл бұрын

    It was so good, bats in the hangar were flying into it at night. from the book, Skunk Works. (the F117)

  • @kaneo1
    @kaneo1 Жыл бұрын

    Line from the Rich book: there was a panel screw half a turn loose, radar had no problem seeing plane. A tech fixed the screw, plane disappeared. Stealth is not just construction, but insane maintenance requirements too.

  • @kentl7228
    @kentl7228 Жыл бұрын

    When I heard a Blackbird landed on the model, I was confused and astonished. The I realised an actual bird was spoken about, not the aircraft. Well deserved award too

  • @madbain79
    @madbain79 Жыл бұрын

    well deserved award 👏

  • @taeharte7501
    @taeharte7501 Жыл бұрын

    Masha hopi pabien with your reward Alex!!

  • @LukeBunyip
    @LukeBunyip Жыл бұрын

    Alex has the best tall stories...

  • @WhiskeyDale
    @WhiskeyDale Жыл бұрын

    congrats. well deserved sir.