Why Submarine Battle Is Extremely Tricky
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Scoring a torpedo hit on an enemy ship requires timing, intuition, and luck. Faced with an oncoming enemy destroyer aiming to ram its hull, the USS Wahoo needs all three.
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"The worst thing than seeing a submarine in your sonar is not seeing one" Captain Chandler from last ship
@robbieaulia6462
3 жыл бұрын
Not if the submarine is an allied one
Let's be clear, this only applies to WWII submarine battles. Modern submarines engage targets VERY differently.
@myleslin6737
6 жыл бұрын
But this is a WWII submarine....
@arnavroy3383
6 жыл бұрын
Ivan Matz this submarine was made in 1941
@082siddharthapatra5
6 жыл бұрын
This is a uboat
@omarragab2916
6 жыл бұрын
Siddhartha Patra it is not a U-Boat because I’ve never seen a nazi speak English
@smokingorca
6 жыл бұрын
Omar Ragab sure we have
0:54 captain is being super-judged for missing
@commentator4ever498
3 жыл бұрын
The captain does not fire it The crew does it but the captain “orders” them to fire it.
@RA-el6zj
Жыл бұрын
😂
The U-boats crews of WW2 had some astonishing accomplishments even with the difficulties of sub warfare!
@slothgarage4846
4 ай бұрын
U Boats are specifically German by the way
I must admit I have admiration for any nations submariners it takes a special kind of courage to do their job.
@dubiousdoublechin6363
7 жыл бұрын
Where I am it's a high needs job, as in they want volunteers. I wouldn't and even if I could I am too tall for submarines. I'd imagine you certainly need guts for that kind of work
@doogleticker5183
6 жыл бұрын
Yep. Lots of courage. Personally, I think the worst military job is infantry.
@ae4164
6 жыл бұрын
Doogle Ticker Don't be an ass, he obviously wasn't saying other people are pussies for not being in a submarine. But you've got a lot better chance of survival if your surface ship is sunk vs. if your submarine is. Not to mention the potential for getting stuck or damaged without even receiving enemy fire. Read some of the horror stories of people who have survived sub disasters or were just forced to stay submerged for days at a time, I'll take a bullet over the torture of that.
@doogleticker5183
6 жыл бұрын
Gen Erik - What crawled into your bed last night. He may have a point!
@ae4164
6 жыл бұрын
Doogle Ticker You continue to put words in his mouth that he never said, that they need a pat on the back for their self esteem. I'm sorry your sensitivities were insulted by me saying you were being an ass. Have mommy put a bandaid on where it hurts.
I feel like modern torpedos have plenty of tracking technology to just be fired as a Hail Mary
@Taebs
5 жыл бұрын
not only the modern torpedos. 30-50 years back they weren't "stupid straight forward" also.
@madscientistme
5 жыл бұрын
haha, this is a cute way of describing them, small but deadly.
@SouravBagchigoogleplus
4 жыл бұрын
Torpedo seeks the sound like SAM missile. But there are many counter devices which can distract torpedo.
@Theinatoriinator
4 жыл бұрын
the ww2 ones had tracking tech. but, it was so faulty it could turn around, lock on and destroy the same submarine that fired it.
@mariaesquivel6217
4 жыл бұрын
Wahoo
On Eternal Patrol. RIP the sailors of the USS Wahoo.
@sadams12345678
7 жыл бұрын
It is WAHOO
@sadams12345678
7 жыл бұрын
IT IS WAHOO en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Wahoo_(SS-238)
@sadams12345678
7 жыл бұрын
No, sorry
@nb3775
6 жыл бұрын
ARandomKZreadr cus its not funny u bitch
@ailajadu575
6 жыл бұрын
Can anyone say what happened to those Torpedoes which misses the target?
The smithsonian channel puts out smithsonian quality videos. So much history packed into a well produced and highly entertaining show.
How to sink a ship? Shout: the boat is sinking Grab a lifeboat
@magnusb.20
5 жыл бұрын
FortNutz - Gaming I don’t get it am I dumb please explain
@wileyglass3324
5 жыл бұрын
@@magnusb.20 bru
@magnusb.20
5 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry I just don’t know the joke
@KxEwl
3 жыл бұрын
@@magnusb.20 I THINK it’s a titanic meme
I remember as a Canadian Royal Army Cadet, I once went on a trip where I got to tour inside of 2 commissioned submarines while they were docked and they showed us the giant torpedoes and said that each one costed like $1200 or more depending on what kind of torpedo it was
@daleburrell6273
3 жыл бұрын
...torpedoes have ALWAYS been expensive and complicated weapons-!!!
@michaelcorbidge7914
2 жыл бұрын
Those prices would've been 1960s era .
@ingridclare7411
Жыл бұрын
They cost more than that...
@Zach1221
11 ай бұрын
While torpedoes are expensive, the things the Torpedo is destroying is more expensive than the torpedo itself
The patience of a submarine captain must have been tremendous.
This attack scene is also shown in 'Run Silent, Run Deep' with Clark Gable and Kirk Douglas. One correction, when the Captain ordered 'Fire 3', that meant fire the torpedo in tube #3.
@stevenschuyler9527
5 жыл бұрын
Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster, badbobby. Great movie.
@SaltiDawg2008
3 жыл бұрын
No need for correction.... *s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*
The creation of depth charges and decreasing size of modern 'battleships' is also another factor.
WWII US Navy submarines used a sophisticated device called the torpedo tracking computer to set the trajectory of torpedo's to their target.
@clouddancersez7870
3 жыл бұрын
Torpedo DATA Computer (TDC)
@wahtx7717
Жыл бұрын
It doesnt track the ship, you input the data of the target and it creates a firing solution for you.
I wish we had more people like Mr oldmanswar, ua answers r very informative. Thank u sir.
found my professor in this video lol
@nomada1468
6 жыл бұрын
Fuck your professor
@nebula7424
5 жыл бұрын
That’s not nice lmao
@boogeymann6686
5 жыл бұрын
Shut up Big Fish!!
@wileyglass3324
5 жыл бұрын
What has your comment turned into😂😂
@boogeymann6686
5 жыл бұрын
@Big Fish you are over 9000 Gay. I have 9000 IQ
0:55 lol his face! 😂
00:00:38 'Vasily. Re-verify our range to target... one ping only.' - Captain Raimius
RIP to the crew of the USS Wahoo
you mean other than being thousands of feet underwater, being inside a crowded place or the inevitable death of blowing up or sinking? ..... yeah, i can't think why.
@525Lines
7 жыл бұрын
That's why the US submarine service was voluntary.
@crcoghill
7 жыл бұрын
right. just saying.
@robertr7923
7 жыл бұрын
well, i read a book about U-boats (story, not informative) and a WW2 submarine can go 40 meter under water. i believe thats 130 feet so thousands of feet is a bit too much but i would definitly get claustrofobia in there
@525Lines
7 жыл бұрын
The world war 2 subs were not true subs but more accurately called submersibles, though their crush depth, about 700-800 feet down, wasn't that much worse than they are now.
@robertr7923
7 жыл бұрын
and what is the difference between a submarine and a submersible? (im not a native speaker) they can both dive and fire torpedos, dont they?
Imagine just chilling in a boat then three torpedoes hit the boat
just one thing forgotten is that the destroyer may throw depth chargers at the sub and the sub being that close under the ship is in serious trouble if they decided to throw depth charges
The only option left is an extremely risky shot Sailors call it *Down The Throat* ..... My Dad: That's what your mother said.
@samar5838
3 жыл бұрын
I'm but your father has some issues if he's sharing this with you.
@antonioperalesdelhierro5188
3 жыл бұрын
Sailors say that ey❓
Finally a video from the smithsonian channel with an accurate, unexaggerated title
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the destroyer be like TORI KAJI IPPAI!!!!
Early in the War, the American torpedoes were unreliable and failures to detonate were common. Later torpedoes were corrected and reliable.
They should have put all their men on deck, after having armed them with gas-pipes and any other sort of junk, RAISE A BLACK, PIRATE FLAG and announce through a megafone, they'll board the destroyer. That would certainly scare the enemy off.
@doogleticker5183
6 жыл бұрын
Naw, destroyers have deck guns, machine guns, and small arms (no not to paddle). British subs enter home port with that illegal pirate flag flying after a kill(s). They are rad, non-conformist, nut-jobs...that's what is needed to be a submariner. Woof.
@tt-mt7rn
5 жыл бұрын
2serveand2protect It might have worked better than their torpedo firing skills..1 for 6?
@coolbean259
3 жыл бұрын
t t, do u know how hard that is, guessing a ships speed from 3 5 sec looks and doing the calculations in a minute under pressure.
Modern boats use sound and wire guidance for their torpedoes. Those were not available in WW2 and the MK 14 were not reliable at first. Any change in the angle on the bow or speed of target makes a difference between a hit or miss. These folks in the old boats were brave and had to know what they were doing. DBF . . . . . Diesel Boats Forever. USS Clamagore SS 343
@mikevo3974
Жыл бұрын
Bravo Zulu
If you guys haven't read the badass of the week article about Dudley "Mush" Morton, you should.
hope the complete episode gets uploaded on this channel, this looks interesting!
@kingpaganmin6907
7 жыл бұрын
agreed
@Blingo88
7 жыл бұрын
There's a link in the description with a bit more info on the show, and when they are showing it on the Smithsonian (TV) channel, which I think is not a thing here in the UK. The show name is Hell Below - Episode 3: America Fights Back
@NiumeLTU
7 жыл бұрын
When destroyers take a torpedo hit It can attack him because he is going to slow to drop deapth charges
@izaicslinux6961
7 жыл бұрын
Just watch it on kodi.
@AM-ks7iw
6 жыл бұрын
marie elena hi
Captain:shoot A6 Sailor: the enemy sent a message it says “missed” Captain: write down thise coordinates Enemy:*shoots submarine once* *submarine goes into panic’* Captain *calmly*: tell the enemy...hit
@AA-bz1pr
3 жыл бұрын
What
For trying to show how it is accurately done, they sure do say "fire" a lot. The proper term is "shoot", due to "fire" being a casualty term.
@onlytoughonline3159
7 жыл бұрын
This is incorrect. The term is, in fact, "fire". It is only used in two situations, a casualty and during a weapons launch.
@bohunt9596
7 жыл бұрын
On my boat (SSN-709), fire was reserved for casualties. Shoot was term used to launch upon the enemy.
@onlytoughonline3159
7 жыл бұрын
I can't quote the actual manual on here, but as an instructor in this subject, the term is "fire".
@bohunt9596
7 жыл бұрын
Ok, but if you served under my former commanders, you would use "shoot" lol.
@JackpineGandy
7 жыл бұрын
when I was in, 50 years ago, the doctrine was "fire" was an actual command to launch the torpedo. (or fire the gun) All preparatory language was "prepare to shoot" etc, so as not to cause a mistake, even though all commands had to be repeated, in a tense situation shit happens. "Fire" was also a casualty. Ditto for surface ships in the US at the time. Respectfully submitted.
Hope you miss each other and stay happy and peaceful
"we got a hit....." Acting 10/10
In Silent Hunter 2 you lock the target and fire. Amusing game. But being there probably was a tough job.
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>Sub starts attacking a ship minding it's own business. >Misses and fires again. >Misses and firs again. >Miss and now ship is getting mad. >Sees where the tornados are coming from so decides to ram it in self defense. >Sub fires again and hits ship. >Happy music. (Honestly they need to get rid of that or they'll have a meme to deal with. . . . Could you imagine 9/11?)
@tommatt2ski
5 жыл бұрын
TheTarrMan - that SHIP was a Japanese destroyer AND it was not minding its own business , it was engaged in WWII , which Japan initiated: 12/7/41 ! Wahoo JUST delivered a proper response to aggressive enemies of the US, "we will put a boot up your A$$, its the American way" - Toby Keith !
@DXKF
5 жыл бұрын
Damn those tonados
@hwqh
5 жыл бұрын
greentexting on youtube, doesn’t get more normie
@wileyglass3324
5 жыл бұрын
Haha you said tornados
@kentcampbell122
5 жыл бұрын
lol yep, that japanese war vessel known as a destroyer...just minding it's own business
Submarine battle needs sharp intuition. Cheers from Indonesia
Amazing Videos!!
That's a lot of damage
That was intense
Some of the new 774 boats should be named for some of these guys. O'Kane and Fluckey for sure.
Great book in this submarine
There's a lot that has to be taken into account and a lot of precise calculations. You only have so many torpedoes.
A clear example of sometimes it's better to be lucky than good..
What a Great short of torpedo .
Very Nice 👍
The move down the thought is literally like a scene from Godzilla opening a monsters mouth and fires it’s bean into its throat but this time it’s ranged
incredible bravery
Doesn't the ship diving right below the destroyer open it up to depth charge attack?
It would be cool if they could create the opposite of a sub launched missile. A torpedo that fires from the bottom, sinks to a low depth then arcs back up under the belly of the targeted ship and blows it up that way.
@chrismc410
Жыл бұрын
ASUBROCs or Anti-Submarine Rockets can do that
Pretty bold to go under the ship even though you know it's going to sink
@RA-el6zj
Жыл бұрын
Yeah should have opted to fly over it instead.
Modern torpedoes are wire guided like a tow missile.
Recommend me this 4 years later thanks I guess
Lol, this is like playing silent hunter 5 again, one shot "miss" 10,000 shots "miss"
1:09 until they decide to activate sonar and sound the Wolf's call lol
Modern torpedoes are not straight running anymore. They usually are wake homing and will change course to hit the ship.
Plunges deep. The brighter deep.
The wahoo was sunk by a runaway torpedo from U507 aimed at the Battleship Goney Bird.
The ultimate battle ship game
Clutch moment irl
This is what goes on hidden inside the battleship game dang
Young aggressive Skippers had big Balls! The USA Submarine Service was a major asset to success in WW2 . And we did lose 52 Submarines and most of their crews! May they Rest in Peace!
I'd rather be on a War ship than a Sub, I don't care if the Ship got Torpedoed at least you got a chance of surviving, in a Submarine you got no where to go, and you might as well say it's your coffin Ha!!! :P] .v ..
Thanks Smithsonian for showing the ending result and not stopping the video there.
This is what a space battle would be like
Give us the full videos I already pay for this channel on tv
The torp hit the bow, and the sub dives beneath it, so why not depth charge the sub?
knowing when to flinch!
Lol the destroyer didn’t react firing back, instead it only moved towards submarine.
As long as we're destroying each other we're happy campers.
I would have got close before I fired my first torpedo and unless I calculated its range distance, I'm not going to fire in such rapid succession, maybe he had to be there but that's just my thinking
0:55 😂😂
So pretty much you hit then dip!😂
Incredible and double incredible!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Mind you, this was WWII technology and tactics. Modern torpedo targeting and guidance are far more accurate, but so is anti-submarine warfare. In modern submarine tactics a single shot, while in theory can be done within a few minutes, may more likely take hours to prepare (patience is not just a virtue when you don't want to be seen, it is a life-or-death necessity, and you have to maneuver slowly to guarantee both the hit and your survival) and an engagement may even take days in outmaneuvering your opponent.
I'm going to fire all my Torpedoes and make sure that I do it right every time I make a mistake if I have enough
What happens when they run out of torpedoes? Do they go home and pick up more?
Guys they buffed the torpedos and periscopes in the 17.6 update
I feel the same way playing battle ship
Wow that Cool 😍👍
من ينتصر في الحرب هو من يكتب التاريخ ويحكي قصص خياليه علي انها حقيقه ...
You know what they would say when then sink a ship? Wahooooo!!!
Similar tactics in the old movie;'Run Silent, Run Deep'.
The destroyer looked more like a fishing boat
Good video
Those shots were so close
They did a down the throat shot like this in the movie Run silent run deep.
You do not make a guess, my daughter's daycare had a family night with a high jar of jelly beans. I came closest to the correct number both years she was there by estimating not guessing. Hugh difference!
After you hit the ship you're going to go under it and you going to hear the ship break up as you pass below it
The only way you are almost guaranteed to sink a destroyer. What was left out was the turn 10 degress to avoid collision.
Two famous ww2 sub skippers Mush Morton and Richard O'kane.
@BigSkyCurmudgeon
2 жыл бұрын
both have great episodes on the SILENT SERVICE TV shows from old tv, now available on You Tube
Nothing is invincible
You sunk my battle ship
Does anybody know where to find the full videos?
You sunk my battleship
Dude wastes All the torpedoes he ends up being blind from one eye
Mush Morton, was from Kentucky
Hedy Lamar, the Jewish actress, actually designed a torpedo guidance system to counter the Germans during the U-boat crisis in the Atlantic. When the Germans learned how to jam the system she also designed a system to scramble the remote signal. There's a good documentary about it somewhere....