Why Some Sex Offenders Never Get Out Of Prison
Much of what our society considers common knowledge about sex offenders is currently under debate - from the efficacy of the registry, to housing restrictions, to what treatment, if any, works. One of the most controversial practices is “dead time” - where sex offenders stay in prison for years beyond their sentence, simply because there is no where else for them to go. VICE News’s Alice Hines reports on how our society’s efforts to protect the public from violence ended up backfiring.
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@BigFatSeal10
Жыл бұрын
Really mf? Even NFT’s are sexist now? 🤨
@supercharger5727
Жыл бұрын
Why do you agree with pedophiles
@MAPMinorAttractedPurge
Жыл бұрын
Anyone who has sympathy for a pedo must secretly be a pedo.
@MAPMinorAttractedPurge
Жыл бұрын
@@supercharger5727 bc they're pedos who want to come out of the closet
@AlphaQuebec5446
8 ай бұрын
This is a terrible documentary. Trying to make sex offenders the victim is wrong.
I love the sheriffs response "dont be a sex offender if you don't want to be on the sex offender list"
@silentassassin47
Жыл бұрын
"People die when they are killed" WOW REALLY? THANK GOD I DIDN'T KNOW CAPTAIN OBVIOUS
@achen5689
Жыл бұрын
(OP) *_|||"I love the sheriffs response, 'dont be a sex offender if you don't want to be on the sex offender list' "|||_* I don't know what is worse: the fact that the sheriff even said this, your support for his saying it, or the fact that you don't see what's wrong with it. All his statement has done is show a dishonest unwillingness to assess the situation at hand: that sex offenders had served their time, some unfairly so, and should be given the right to properly reintegrate back into society as productive citizens, so that they don't repeat their old criminal ways. Sweeping an issue under the rug doesn't nullify that the issue is still there If Lord forbid your own beloved male family member got placed on the registry, deserved or not, and he struggled his after-prison life away trying to maintain even a meager existence, I hope you have the nerve to tell him to "[not] be a sex offender, if [he doesn't] want to be on the sex offender list."
@subswithnovideos-oz4zo
Жыл бұрын
@@achen5689 People don't like to Synaptics with those who have made mistakes. People are extremely closed minded and don't want to admit just how complex it actually is.
@boostmeup
Жыл бұрын
sure if the system was infallable then i would agree. there are plenty of falsely accused men on the SOF list.
@illbiskits
Жыл бұрын
His response is his opinion and he has the right to. However tax payers do not elect sheriffs to be the judge or jury. He doesn't get to decide if someone that committed a sex offense gets a slap on the wrist or not, the legal system decides that. I think police need really have that drilled into their head because, too often they believe they get to hand out a sentence.
You can’t rehabilitate someone who will not admit what they’ve done.
@PieInTheSky9
Жыл бұрын
What's the point of them admitting anything or bettering themselves? They're going to be on the list either way.
@lolocan100
Жыл бұрын
try harder
@isarainie4ever
Жыл бұрын
@@PieInTheSky9 they deserve to be in that list.
@Stephen85
Жыл бұрын
@@isarainie4ever they deserve a lot more than that.
@blacktara3936
Жыл бұрын
sexual preferences no matter what cannot be changed. NONE of them can be fixed. They like what they like. Same as anyone. Remove them from society permanently. I don't care how. Some have 100's of child victims.
"Sexting with your SO if they're underage" is an interesting way to say grooming a minor...
@margaretwartime2542
5 ай бұрын
Sexting a minor is considered sexual abuse. It’s already past the point of grooming when they are texting the victim sexually explicit statements or content.
@lena-Ramone
4 ай бұрын
Shes a psychopath shes woke. Extreme liberalism is dangerous
@Thefinancegirlie
3 күн бұрын
Right
The reporter is showing a lot of sympathy for people who have ruined people’s lives forever
@munk3064
5 ай бұрын
Vice news is a joke. This is disgusting and nobody should take this seriously
@lena-Ramone
4 ай бұрын
This is what i said about this WOKE video. They are trying to normalise peados. When shes talking to that cop. One of the reasons that the numbers of sex offenders hasnt gone down IS DUE TO MASS PORNOGRAPHY. she is highly condescending to someone who works in this area with VICTIMS she seems a bit WOKE 🤨🤨🤨🤨and irritating. Immature. I find her on the psychopathic spectrum a peado apologist
@SD_Chosen
2 ай бұрын
There lives are only ruined forever because you keep Saying it is, Giving the person no hope for Healing, Speak for yourself, if You want your life ruined forever I am Healed and free from the Past Thank you Jesus, And I Still Forgave 🙏🏽 ❤️🔥☝🏽🙌🏽
@giiiddyup
8 күн бұрын
I know. I can't stand this crap. I've seen other docs about offenders and the interviewer tries to make them the victim... even having gofundmes for them
im alone and laughed out loud at "there's this... stigma... around sex offenders"
@slconley
Жыл бұрын
😂 right, There should be a stigma.
@Censortubes
Жыл бұрын
Can you guess what the people who made this show enjoy?
@zacharrowood6178
Жыл бұрын
@@Censortubes sex offenders
@Childmo_Lester
Жыл бұрын
There should not be if you are a very good singer or dancer. Or if you had the mind of the child.🤷♂️👨👦😇
@MermaidOracle1
Жыл бұрын
It’s not a stigma, it’s a fact
They had DNA, he was picked out of a lineup, and he confessed - but he won’t even acknowledge he committed a crime.
@GentleJungle
Жыл бұрын
He obviously needs help. It's really sad to see.
@I.____.....__...__
Жыл бұрын
DNA isn't foolproof (though usually "good enough"), and eye-witnesses are _notoriously unreliable_ and that's just when third-parties witness something, let alone actual victims, especially victims of this, which usually make a point of looking away or closing their eyes; they don't normally look the attacker in the face and make eye-contact. Not to mention the race-blindness. Chances are he's guilty, but it's hardly a demonstrable fact.
@shawnfields8416
Жыл бұрын
You need to leave all this stuff on vice and you still are ignorant.
@abdiali6820
Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't try a minor as an adult.
@sharktv3000
Жыл бұрын
….and then he sent a wee wee picture to the producer.
what the hell was this even about? extremely disappointing, my heart goes out ONLY to the victims of these offenders.
@anttt7993
8 ай бұрын
Too bad the redhead is a pedo sympathizer.
@konyvnyelv.
7 ай бұрын
They have a sick mind. They can't control it because if they could, they would not harm kids knowing the consequences
@NunoFilipe99
6 ай бұрын
@@konyvnyelv.Then invite them to live with you
@konyvnyelv.
6 ай бұрын
@@NunoFilipe99 they should be put in an area for them alone. Off kids
@salvador8923
6 ай бұрын
@@konyvnyelv.They might not control their attraction/thoughts however they CAN control their actions, they choose to commit a sexual offense.
"This is how we live. It's a bad experience." Yeah, so is being raped or molested. Are we really supposed to feel bad for these people?!
@phyllissowhat
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@persephone3309
6 ай бұрын
Exactly! All I see when it shows all these people is the potential victims and their struggles and trauma. How old was their victim? How long did it go on for? But none of them even care, they just care about themselves and how sorry they are for themselves.
@deshawn1801
4 ай бұрын
Hush not all these people deserve to be there
@Chris-Clips-Games
4 ай бұрын
Yes, though we have to remember, these guys did do some bad things.
@kathryncumberland
4 ай бұрын
@@Chris-Clips-Games Well, I don't.
Did she really say it's absurd to ban sex offenders from working as ice cream truck drivers, Santas or Easter bunnies??? That's literally the most common sense law I've ever heard of. Makes sense to me.
@chrisgo6478
Жыл бұрын
Show and example of a sex offender that drove an ice cream truck. Who?
@gamer1X12
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgo6478 Sex offenders, particularly those who abuse children, should not be allowed to work in close proximity to children (their prime victims). Why on God's green Earth does this need to be explained to you? Even if ice-cream man wasn't the greatest example, you get what they're trying to say. I swear, yall KZread commenters be arguing just for the sake of it. Why are you being a contrarian for the sake of p*dophiles and r*pists, is the better question. Not every devil needs an advocate.
@SURVIVE_JUL52073
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZKiL2reEkrLOoaQ.html
@home4life505
Жыл бұрын
That's like saying SO can live with a single mother who works and he is her babysitter = SO's dream.
@cuttlefishagain
Жыл бұрын
I thought that too. I'm like, actually that sounds like a good idea... predators purposefully choose roles/jobs like that to access kids so it does make sense to ban known sex offenders from that. That's the least we can do, lol.
Ashif isn't rehabilitated! The fact that he sent a sexually explicit picture to someone even if it wasn't intended for that person says everything! I felt so bad for his victim when she cried because he still hasn't excepted responsibility for his assault on her even though there was DNA! If anything his story proves that most sex offenders can't be rehabilitated!
@TanukiOfficial
Жыл бұрын
Ashif reinforced the need for these restrictions. He never admitted he was guilty even with DNA evidence and then he sends out an unsolicited dic pic. He's still lying and not taking responsibility.
@nobodyspecial4702
Жыл бұрын
@@TanukiOfficial Aishef is a typical sex offender in that he says it was never him, he was unfairly convicted, it wasn't his fault and that he shouldn't be punished and then goes right ahead and commits another sex offense.
@TomikaKelly
Жыл бұрын
What if the intended recipient requested the picture?
@razmatazz9310
Жыл бұрын
@@TomikaKelly How hard is it to make sure you don't send those pics to the wrong person? _Especially_ if you have that kind of history?
@MAPMinorAttractedPurge
Жыл бұрын
There are people who still think government is the solution to our pedophile problem. they are not the solution. The solution is an Army of Mama Bears doing what a real bear would do to anyone and anything that messes with her cubs.
What is concerning is that there is not a “murderer” registry. Someone could be released after killing someone, move next door to your family, and you will NEVER know unless they tell you
@nickdelaney6953
5 ай бұрын
Abolish the registry
@danhibiki5687
5 ай бұрын
Because, for instance, there is a difference in being put on a registry for murder when it was a crime of passion than if you were put on a registry for a crime of passion with a minor.
@nickdelaney6953
5 ай бұрын
@@danhibiki5687 there should be a registry for every crime if we have it for the one or just abolish it
@danhibiki5687
5 ай бұрын
@@nickdelaney6953 found the guy that isn’t allowed near Chuck E. Cheese
@shawbrothers18
5 ай бұрын
Shits back asswards
Wait are we supposed to be feeling bad that a sex offender can’t work as santa claus?? I had to rewind that.
@TruePluto
4 ай бұрын
Aint no way it says that
I work with SO’s almost every day, and I can tell you, most do not believe they did anything wrong. They feel that they’re the victims. The person they assaulted has to live with it forever, and so should the offenders. Period.
@user-pc9xc4ib5o
Жыл бұрын
yeah i'm sure the woman who got head from that 15 year old dude it traumatized for life
@TheMradampturner
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how they could feel that they are the victims . They assaulted their victims and destroyed their lives and they are victims of their own actions and their perverted mind, that they choose to give into.
@braveheart9097
Жыл бұрын
I highly doubt you work with Sex Offenders.. I think you are seriously talking out loud and spreading a lot of untrue nonsense... Because most of the Sex Offenders that I work with have admitted to making a stupid decision and they feel that they are victims of a system that all of the counselors in my same facility believe is "broken & not helping" just like the victim in this video also said. Anyone who works with Sex Offenders like you claim, will not come to youtube and post those kind of comments. Especially if you have full access to their court documents...
@TheMradampturner
Жыл бұрын
@@braveheart9097 Tell me why someone who was abused , chose to become a abuser????
@braveheart9097
Жыл бұрын
@@TheMradampturner My comment was not directed at you, Bud. I'm only saying that I've read all the comments and everyone claiming to work with sex offenders doesn't actually work with them to be coming here to the internet making up a bunch of lies like what this woman did in the comments. I work with these people every day and the message I have gotten after almost 6 years is the complete opposite of what this person claimed. It's sad...
I was raped by 2 guys when I was 10. That day I lost my innocence, it changed my life forever, we never forget... it's been 45 years now. Sex offenders are monsters.
@robertkenny1201
Жыл бұрын
Well the one that know what there doing are, but it's no impossible for a sex offender to be mentally ill.
@Dennis-nc3vw
Жыл бұрын
That's horrible, but "sex offenses" cover a very wide range of crimes with a very wide range of severity.
@rojamillerover
11 ай бұрын
I hope they were caught. That's horrible
@itsmelili326
10 ай бұрын
@@Dennis-nc3vw"Thats horrible But..." what a cruel and totally unnecessary comment.
@bonson9156
10 ай бұрын
I wish the cops would have gone after the guy that abused me when I was a kid.
No sex offender should get out of prison LMAO. How do you rehabilitate someone that rapes kids????
@sub-harmonik
6 ай бұрын
.. as if that's the only type of sex offender
@user-db4qw1bq6e
4 ай бұрын
I think if depends on Thier crimes... some are just traps by the PDs . Who I am.to judge them.
@D-Boss-1958
3 ай бұрын
Ignorance is a problem.
@SD_Chosen
2 ай бұрын
God Can Change anybody He chooses, If He Can Change a Murderer, He can Change a Sick person like them too🙏🏽💯☝🏽🙌🏽
@D-Boss-1958
2 ай бұрын
@@SD_Chosen What's so sick about it?
My daughter was raped when she was 14 years old. I was not informed about the prediters fate. No registry at that time and he was shielded from me and the public at large. She is still negatively affected as an adult . A life sentance for her. Life sentance for affenders is appreciate for sure. 5/27/2023.
@SD_Chosen
2 ай бұрын
It's only a life sentence for her because you keep putting that in her head, thus far she will believe it, Leaving no room for healing, You do more damage by Saying that then good, I Know because I healed and Life life free now, Thanks be to God 🙏🏽❤️🔥🙌🏽☝🏽
She thinks that banning sex offenders and pedophiles from dressing up as Santa and the Easter bunny is absurd ?? Really??
@oliverwilson5957
Жыл бұрын
It really isn't difficult to understand why. Those professions allow you access near children. If you have a working brain you'd easily understand why they are prevented from doing that
@davidkeogh9276
Жыл бұрын
She did not say that.
@maebeline2496
Жыл бұрын
@@davidkeogh9276 then what did she say?
@davidkeogh9276
Жыл бұрын
So now you want me to tell you what she said,give me a break.
@feartheghus
Жыл бұрын
@@davidkeogh9276 ok, if their eyes and ears tell them one thing, and you say another, the burden of proof is yours, they can easily continue believing their eyes and ears, and why shouldn’t they?
A sex offenders comfort is not worth my safety or the safety of others.
@mattjack3983
Жыл бұрын
It's definitely not worth the safety of children.
@cormacthem8406
Жыл бұрын
But does it keep society safe, that’s the question.
@Vickyyxoxo
Жыл бұрын
@@cormacthem8406 yes, most sex offenders will attack again.
@prestonhendrix1199
Жыл бұрын
@@cormacthem8406children are the most vulnerable of society
@xazax2641
Жыл бұрын
??? you could use this same argument against any type of violent criminal. A civilised society works to understand and rehabilitate. Locking up child molesters won't forever banish it from happening. It will only make you feel superior and violate basic aspects of the justice system and human rights.
There are law-abiding citizens who are homeless. And this sexual predator has a roof over his head. I don't understand.
Why is vice trying to defend Sex Offenders
@opticalman6417
3 ай бұрын
becuase there is a movement going on to normalize such behavior its a really sick and twisted toxic world we live in
@stand355
2 ай бұрын
Because they are?
@SD_Chosen
2 ай бұрын
They are not defending they are Making a Change and showing these people can be changed and are actively trying to do so, If they do change that means less kids hurt, Use your brain, Not your hateful heart, Because in God's eyes you are a filthy Sinner in need of mercy and Grace as well 🙏🏽💯
I think the registry is fair because victims also have their whole life changed forever.
@Dsworddance22
Жыл бұрын
So should there be a registery for murderers, theft, arson, etc? Victims of those crimes absolutely have their whole lives changed forever.
@Themusicbiz
Жыл бұрын
@@Dsworddance22 sure, that’s fair.
@jonathanbohm6489
Жыл бұрын
@@Dsworddance22 there is it’s called being a Felon. But something more formalized would be hard but I’d go for it.
@fabrizio483
Жыл бұрын
@@Dsworddance22 Sex crime works differently on the mind in the trauma that it causes, but I wouldn't be opposed to a general criminal registry.
@jaklinhyde
Жыл бұрын
How is a person ever suppose to get themselves together when they are constantly being hindered?
im normally on the side of VICE, but as someone who lived through sexual violence, I have very little pitty for these people. It's been nearly 12 years and i still go to therapy. My life has never been the same. I live with PTSD, Depression, and perpetual anxiety, which are medicated. I struggled to stay afloat financially because of my inability to keep a job for a prolonged period of time. I even attempted suicide twice. I've forgiven the actions of the man who wronged me, but I don't think he should be allowed to live a normal life after that, and I know there are some who are wrongly charged and put on that list and i feel for them, but if you commit the crime, you must be willing to accept the consequences. I had no choice, why should you?
@austinsavage5962
Жыл бұрын
I 100 percent agree with you if they cant afford the 100 dollars to register i think its alright for them to stay in prison honestly but for people who were just accused i think it could be overwhelming i honestly think we should just send them to an island and let them battle it out
@austinsavage5962
Жыл бұрын
I also dont like how they say the laws are from a bigone era like more and more people arent reporting SA on a daily basis
@John-jc4om
Жыл бұрын
I understand you because I grew up around a victim of a sex crime and it has made her a totally different person sadly a violent person just waiting to go off, I hope those who have suffered from this terrible crime gain the strength and help needed to take your life back , be safe people do care about you.
@WildBill496
Жыл бұрын
Vice wants to normalize pedophilia 👎
@Skipbo000
Жыл бұрын
no one is asking for pity or even to like them. just afford them the same rights we afford everyone else in the criminal justice system.
I'm on the registry In PA. I have been on parole a little over 2 years. I have a factory job and live in a house. I'm in therapy and making recovery work.
@RestingBitchFace85
8 ай бұрын
What is PA?
@ghostsamongus3370
6 ай бұрын
@@RestingBitchFace85Pennsylvania
@ghostsamongus3370
6 ай бұрын
You are lucky you got that. I honestly wouldn't want you anywhere near me or my family
@me78723
5 ай бұрын
@RestingBitchFace85 I think they meant in PA ( Pennsylvania) .
@user-mybigtruck
3 ай бұрын
It's supposed to say in PA
Not this man saying I'm not what my offense lables me as, other dude complaing that his family won't talk to him. Like???? I'm so disgusted by these people
The fact that this man said he wasn't gonna let something like "DNA" stop him is absolutely beyond me.....😒
@GeneralRaptor
Жыл бұрын
You can’t fix stupid
@Alexandria87
Жыл бұрын
He's a delusional one, isn't he?
@harrynicholes3166
Жыл бұрын
He's moving on with his life. What else can he do? Just remember that he was a 15 yr old so don't forget to blame his parents.
@lovesphynx
Жыл бұрын
I know was I the only one who was set back by that/....omg what a dumb criminal screw him they need to be on that list
@coffeecrimegal5968
Жыл бұрын
@@harrynicholes3166 Exactly! 15yo well under the age of consent himself?! What exactly was he taught about sex & girls?
Sorry vice you lost me on this one. We have scores of inmates on non violent offenses suffering needlessly and I’m gonna go ahead and give my sympathy to them instead of the rapists.
@seankelly378
10 ай бұрын
When they say so called sex offences it means things like public urinarion(for exposure ), two minors have sex or sexting etc
@TheAsianOfChaos
9 ай бұрын
@@seankelly378except that’s not what happened here lmao.
@sciencenotstigma9534
8 ай бұрын
There are people like that who are registered sex offenders, too. I know an excellent mother who can’t go to her kids’ school because she was an alcoholic . She peed in the alley more than once, because she had a weak bladder and impaired judgment. I saw her paperwork.
@sciencenotstigma9534
8 ай бұрын
Oops…just finished reading the thread. I agree that Vice chose poor examples. I think this episode gives people who peed or changed clothes while homeless a disservice.
@Demonlord468
8 ай бұрын
@@seankelly378 Why not try actually looking at your local registry it shows the crimes they were convicted and put on the registry for... I almost guarantee you will be hard pressed to find many if any of those types of cases around you. Most of them have horrible cases with extremely young victims a lot of them multiple victims and convictions. Maybe 1% of people on the registry are on there for undeserved things like public urination. Within 50 miles of my house I can only find one person who maybe shouldn't be on there because he was 21 and hooked up with a 17 year old. The rest all very much deserve to be on there and many don't deserve freedom or even air for that matter...
What the cop said "don't commit sex offences if you don't want to be on the register " is exactly how I feel about them too. If you've done the crime then it's too bad if people stigmatise you, because, you can be sure, your victims will have to live with your actions for life, so why are you wanting special treatment? They are not babies and are not usually mentally ill, they know what they are doing is wrong, so they should just grow up and accept the punishment. I am sure their victims don't want to hear about their housing problems and neither do the majority of the public. If you cannot do the time, don't do the crime! Of course, I am not speaking about people who were convicted for oral sex and digital penetration at age 15, but, as I write this I am thinking how old was the victim, as this is what will define this crime. I think there should be clear distinction between the types of crimes and I get the feeling that she's playing down his crime and the inconsistencies in the register. I really don't think you get on the register accidentally, I think you have to have been proved a danger. I really think she's trying to downplay the importance of these rules and, I wonder, if she would feel the same if she'd been a victim.
@b0nkbonk
Жыл бұрын
🙌
@johncaze757
Жыл бұрын
There really are people on the registry who were falsely accused and wrongly convicted or something less serious like peeing out in the public.
@Dennis-nc3vw
Жыл бұрын
But why do we have a registry for sex offenders if not for every other kind of offense?
@coalblooded
10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure there are different levels, or tiers, of the SOR, from low-risk to high-risk in terms of danger to the public. Unfortunately, being on that list at all is incredibly stigmatized, so yes, someone who's a Tier 1 (the least risk to the public, if I remember correctly) for urinating in a park at night or maybe for sexting with their teenage partner (if both are teens) is looked at with as much disdain and hatred as the Tier 4 (highest risk I think) who raped and killed someone. I'm not sure what the numbers are in terms of how many people account for which tier levels, but the fact that there's a wide range of offenses on that list can be problematic all around.
@bendavidson1210
8 ай бұрын
@@Dennis-nc3vwSome states have created other type of registries as well
Give every felon (including sex offenders) a chance at redemption. That includes mental health therapy (sex offender therapy program). If they pass, allow them to re-establish their life back into society in a positive way. If they fail the treatment program, toss them back into prison. Every felon who wishes to express regret/remorse for what they’ve sadly done (including sex offenders) deserves a chance of proving it & redemption.
@plutomutt
11 ай бұрын
Most people don't think like you unfortunately. They don't want to actually try and fix the problem, so abuse doesn't happen again, or even in the first place. Every stupid mthfkr on here talking about woodchippers and lynching is a keyboard warrior who will change absolutely nothing for the better and is just talking smack to make themselves feel tough. They aren't going to go out and murder anyone, it's all posturing. Virtue signaling crap. I want better mental health programs, I want better reentry programs, that's why I'm studying law and criminology. Nothing is ever going to change if we all sit around yelling empty reactionary threats. I want free school lunches and more after school programs, I want kids to not be forced into vulnerability either through poverty or a latch key kid because their parents work 3 jobs, or both. Focusing on mental health and having the hard and uncomfortable conversations about the real reasons people commit crimes of all kinds, and surprise, the majority of crimes are not committed for the sake of being evil. They are committed because someone didn't get the early intervention, and mental health support they needed.
@Saymako_
9 ай бұрын
@@plutomuttPREACH
@SD_Chosen
2 ай бұрын
Amen I Agree Even the worst can change and at least should be given an opportunity to prove they can and try to make Amends the best way they know how 🙏🏽💯❤️🔥🙌🏽☝🏽
@kirkstanfield3773
8 күн бұрын
You have just deluded any and everything you said about redemption. Redemption is not earned but given you Pharisee.
@matt19wk
8 күн бұрын
Maybe you should be their victim.
If you're rich like Prince Andrew, they let you stay in a castle with servants.
@ericlondon2663
Жыл бұрын
True But they take away your military rank and a couple of titles LOL.... unbelievable....
@xgreasexmonkey5506
Жыл бұрын
Same with Trump
@amaruandujar
Жыл бұрын
@@ericlondon2663 a couple titles lmao a slap on the wrists
@sausagegamer5323
Жыл бұрын
😂
@derpicknicker6356
Жыл бұрын
@@xgreasexmonkey5506 same with Bill Clinton
"I'd say don't commit sex offenses if you don't want to be on the registry". All that needed to be said here 🤷🏻♂️
@JC-lj2zq
Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I said. Basically summed this video up in a sentence.
@Experiment632
Жыл бұрын
Better yet don't commit any offense that has has even the slightest potential to one day be added to the registry cause the addition would be retroactive.
@vrstate
Жыл бұрын
This is the same thing that saying to a guy "just never have sex", some people are wired differently, child atracction is a illness not 100% just pure evil
@ismth
Жыл бұрын
@@vrstate and those people should be on a registry for every one else’s protection
@bladadah6620
Жыл бұрын
for real. I rarely agree with officers but he is right
yet murders get out on parole everyday or get a lighter sentences and go out and take another life the next day, treat all equally my ass
its not that sex offenders are becoming more prevalent due to the laws is that the laws are helping uncover unreported cases and making people speak out more often, it seems like there is an increase in sex offenders but in reality is an increase in people reporting them
@pepperroni6252
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, with less stigma and better conviction rates lead to the increase
@Juline1221
Жыл бұрын
Exactly just as bad as it's ever been.
@fieldandstream9362
Жыл бұрын
Authorities really do nothing and don't care the vast majority of the time...
@justaguy6100
Жыл бұрын
It's not as simple as that, if you're honest. As the cop noted one is the child pornography laws which means a lot of people simply by sitting alone in their home can commit a sex crime and even be labeled a predator. The for-profit prison industry encourages more laws and more opportunities for incarceration, along with inflating the recidivism rates for new sex offenses.
@pepperroni6252
Жыл бұрын
@@justaguy6100 You're still a predator if you access CP
“Sexting with your significant other if they are underage.” This is the progressive way of describing child grooming.
@johnsoutherland3403
Жыл бұрын
It also means an 18 year old man who has been in a relationship for years with a girl that is just one year younger than him. There is many guys that are now sex offenders because they were 18 when their girlfriend was still 17. I'm a right winger but it is comments like this that come out of right wingers that make people run to the arms of leftist and communists. It is because we are not fair, judgmental and desire to punish people for crimes that hurt absolutely no one. There was a stupid comment you made, and it is not grooming.
@uberdriver2955
Жыл бұрын
The are 19 year olds who were convicted of sexing 16 yrs olds...its not always that simple and some convicted people are not perverts...the law should see the difference and judge accordingly
@sanicthehedgehog1260
Жыл бұрын
@@uberdriver2955 well the adult should clearly understand this is by law not allowed and how are they even convicted unless someone reported it like a parent. Which is completely valid. I don’t think kids should be producing child porn even if its legal to be with their significant other.
@mnemosyne1337
Жыл бұрын
Two 16/17 year olds sexting each other and then getting arrested on CP charges is deranged. How is that even child grooming? You never heard of teenagers having sex?
@Caterfree10
Жыл бұрын
I get what you mean, but teenagers sext each other too. It isn't just grooming victims being talked about, it's teenagers being accused of victimizing themselves. A whole other kettle of fish that needs to be treated differently.
Rehabilitation starts with admitting what you did and sincerely being remorseful about it which I did not see. There was a lot of "poor me" from the offenders and not enough remorse for what they did. And asheefs victim blaming pissed me off. You did do it buddy you did do it That woman was not faking her pain in the interview.
@SD_Chosen
2 ай бұрын
Even if they did you still wouldn't give them a chance Dammed if they do, Dammed if they don't, If they are sincere about changing I think they deserve a chance 🙏🏽💯
A friend of mine since jr high is labeled a "sex offender" for having sex with his girlfriend when he was 18 and she was 17. He's not a predator, he's not creepy. They thought they were in love. But he's on the registry as a "sex offender". These creeps in this video are shocking and i have NO sympathy for them, but there are men on this registry whose lives are ruined for being young and dumb.
Notice how she used the terms "so called sex offenses" and "registered person". These terms are right out of the Sympathy for Sex Offender's playbook. She did not use them by accident. She also stated, "accused of" when these people have already been convicted.
@beegee8418
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. The is the worst piece of hack job journalism that Vice has allowed to be produced. I don’t think that I can watch any more pieces done by “Alice” without seeing her work (and her as a person) negatively.
@tomasrocha6139
Жыл бұрын
Some sex offenses like peeing outdoors should be referred to as "so called sex offenses".
@kennethsouthard6042
Жыл бұрын
@@tomasrocha6139 People on the registry for peeing outdoors is a myth. That's not a sex offense. That's something that sex offenders try to say that they were not really committing a sex offense when they were actually caught fondling themselves in public.
@tomasrocha6139
Жыл бұрын
@@kennethsouthard6042 Right, that was a poor example on my part, think of two minors mutually sexting instead.
@michaelbradley7621
Жыл бұрын
There are a fair amount of false convictions on record even though they are the minority of cases
My roommate was sexually assaulted by her step-father from 6 years old to 13. He only got 6 years in prison. She's 53 now and still has nightmares, anxiety, and has been going to therapy all these years. It doesn't help.
@sanguinesoulful
Жыл бұрын
@patricia Manroe - please tell your roommate to look into EMDR therapy (assuming she hasn't already). My situation was very similar to hers - I was molested by my step-father from as young as I can remember (2 or 3 maybe?) until about 12 - when I told my mother what happened. He was never arrested (my mom didn't call the police) and never convicted, spent a single day in prison. I, like her, was in therapy for my entire adult life. Age 47, I started doing EMDR therapy and it changed my life. All the best to her - and you!
@mitchelljensenproductions2263
Жыл бұрын
We got some strong women in the comments
@Krolted
Жыл бұрын
6 Is such a vulnerable age i feel very sorry for her
@J.M8989
Жыл бұрын
Was he white?
@sanguinesoulful
Жыл бұрын
@Brown Incel yes. It was never reported, though, so it wouldn’t make any difference in his case.
We need more willingness among parents and teachers to discuss sexual violence with students, not only seeing them as potential victims, but as potential offenders. We need to spell out for them the LONG term consequences of commiting an offense, as well as the LONG term harm to the victims. I feel we need to make it safe and confidential for them to seek help before they offend as adults.
@coalblooded
10 ай бұрын
Exactly! At one point the sheriff guy said something about how prevention is most important to him, but what's he doing about it? The only care or treatment for sex offenders tends to be *after* they've already offended. Something needs to change so that people can come forward to seek help *before* offending without being turned away or locked up or something. Of course not all of them see a problem with their behavior, but that's another reason for more accessible therapy, especially for children and young adults.
@hodgestansson7533
7 ай бұрын
As someone who works with S.O.s and have my degree in criminology (and also a victim) YES 10000% this. Early intervention is HUGE. And yes, it would mean work in somewhat normalizing getting S.O. treatment.
@kevinerbs2778
3 ай бұрын
Talking about coercion & manipulation would be the start.
Tell me you're NOT a victim of SA without telling me you're not a victim of SA. Let the host of this episode go first ...
I was not prepared for the interviewer to tell the victim that her abuser said she is lying….who said this was a good idea? This is so damaging to a victim’s mental health and THEN you’re trying to help him? That was a low blow to me. It hurt my feelings when she started cry. She seemed okay until she told her that piece of information.
@matthewscott4629
Жыл бұрын
Transparency matters
@giovannisantostasi9615
Жыл бұрын
But what she said was the right response and she is right that we should focus on rehabilitation.
@matthewscott4629
Жыл бұрын
@@giovannisantostasi9615 shouldn't safety/protection of the citizens supercede that?
@giovannisantostasi9615
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewscott4629 I think it is complicated. I don't condone this behavior, an ex psycho colleague of mine just got caught with child pornography and I knew something was deeply wrong with him, he was a psycho with me too when he was department head. So I have direct experience of people like these. But it is scary to think people that did something wrong and want to get back to society and redeem themselves basically almost cannot given all these restrictions. Also, consider that a lot of these safety measures are really "safety theater". We have a lot of supposed safety measures in society that do almost nothing besides giving the illusion of safety and politicians use them to get support. If a predator wants to do something bad he will not care about these restrictions and do it anyway. But if somebody wants to change his life after having been in prison for years and years basically he cannot given he cannot find a job, a place where to live, and so on. This actually could make society much less safe. There are several studies showing that rehabilitation helps much more than punishment and crazy restrictions like these.
@matthewscott4629
Жыл бұрын
@@giovannisantostasi9615 I hear you and don't take this the wrong way but why don't you invite them to live with you/in your neighborhood?
It’s almost like their actions have consequences…
@mrdavman13
Жыл бұрын
Thank god someone is thinking
@TheLoneWanderersBunker
Жыл бұрын
Lol lightning bolt.
@necsefor
Жыл бұрын
"Well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions."
@jimmyrebel9385
Жыл бұрын
Shocking
@DanielGiers
Жыл бұрын
@NightTimeLounge or like when a MADA cult member went to prison for sedition
Big L for vice. Alice Hines will always be known as a pro-sex offender.
Thanks for this compelling piece of journalism Vice. I used to have a really harsh view of sex offenders. After watching this documentary however, I have an even harsher view of them. Serious sex offenders who are convicted with strong evidence should be locked up for life.
@be4202
Жыл бұрын
Most pedophiles have molested not just one but multiple times with many victims who are left with a life sentence of coping with many emotional and mental issues. There are so many perpetrators out there who never get reported and repeatedly offend. I have no sympathy for them if they are caught and don’t believe they can be rehabilitated.
@freerobuxgotomychannel7179
Жыл бұрын
@@be4202 thats a lie your spreading. most pedophiles have NOT molested people. it is a small percent that does
@k.k.london
Жыл бұрын
@@be4202where I work if they find out you have children, they try and manipulate trying to get information about the kids. I’ve had that happen to me more then I can count.
@feartheghus
Жыл бұрын
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie, thought you actually agreed with vice for a moment.
@Nigerian-born_American
Жыл бұрын
@@k.k.londonsounds like drag queen story time hour, which drives me insane that it’s legal smh. Morality, not the one displayed by liberals and Hollywood, is truly lost in America.
“Don’t commit sex offenses if you don’t wanna be on that registry” based response.
@ortizmichelle7575
Жыл бұрын
Exactly don't do weed if you don't want a drug charge... Dont drink and drive and you won't have a DUI... Based response I know
@lilbunny9833
Жыл бұрын
@@ortizmichelle7575 it’s true. No one is forcing you to smoke weed 🤷
@DogmaticAtheist
Жыл бұрын
Child molesters are different than pot heads....
@ortizmichelle7575
Жыл бұрын
@@DogmaticAtheist how so
@DogmaticAtheist
Жыл бұрын
@@ortizmichelle7575 if you really need to ask that question then I pity you
“Don’t commit a sex crime” - mic drop
I’m sorry but are we supposed to feel sorry for sex offenders?
@rottweilerfun9520
Жыл бұрын
No , not at all , screw them. I despise anyone who violates other people like that. I don't think that most crimes are all that bad but violating another person is unforgivable.
An ice cream truck attracts kids... of course sex offenders shouldn't be driving them.
@Mark-sj3xb
Жыл бұрын
Don’t see ice cream trucks much anymore but when I do I immediately start having skeptical thoughts about the person operating it
@amarissimus29
Жыл бұрын
@@Mark-sj3xb These days that's called inherent bias and it means you're a bigot. Forget all that fancy neuroscience nonsense about you brain making generalizations based on experiences in your environment and making judgements most likely to ensure survival for you and your progeny in a dangerous world. Don't listen to your brain. Listen to Vice.
@bog4543
Жыл бұрын
@@Mark-sj3xbThats a reach
@harrynicholes3166
Жыл бұрын
Stupid People writing stupid stuff on a piece of 🚽 paper then calling it a law. Waste of toilet paper.
Him sending a picture of his genitalia should've been reported to his parole officer. It shows that he does not understand or respect boundaries and he's showing that he's very likely to offend again. Her not reporting this is incredibly irresponsible and putting people at risk. Stop calling him a complex person and call him what he is, a sex offender who will offend again because he already did despite knowing the consequences.
@Maya.6868
Жыл бұрын
hello.... she mentioned it in this documentary, what makes you think she did not report it ? Do you think the parole officer lives on Mars or does not have access to youtube ?
@pascualmartinez9702
Жыл бұрын
@@Maya.6868 oh pls its America
@Maya.6868
Жыл бұрын
@@pascualmartinez9702 what do you mean ?
@pascualmartinez9702
Жыл бұрын
@@Maya.6868 parole officers do their job incorrctly all the time
@harrynicholes3166
Жыл бұрын
It was an accident due to all the ho azz's out there sliding into his DM's! He'sbeen locked up so long & don't have a clue on how to use a smart phone!
This woman is very annoying and condescending.She seems to minimize the horrific actions of sex offenders. Lock her up as well.
@dannythunder3180
Ай бұрын
Lock her up? For using her first amendment right?
This was weird asf. The guy sent a pic of himself to production and no one reported it ?! Then the reporter telling the survivor her attacker didn’t believe her … I’m in a alternate universe Nobody gives af where sex offenders live or die Maybe we should introduce death sentencing since rehabilitation seems to not work . Like wtf don’t waste tax payers $$
"nothings gonna stop me. Not DNA. Not someone's opinion." Man is positively thinking his way out of sexual assault. This dude is completely separated from reality.
@astrozoo
7 ай бұрын
He's a good example of why the sex offender registry should exists
@Shannafai
5 ай бұрын
How do you accidentally sent a peen pic.
@TeaCup1940
5 ай бұрын
@@astrozooBut still many don't register. It shouldn't be voluntary, but mandatory to register.
@astrozoo
5 ай бұрын
@@TeaCup1940 I don't know about other sates, but in California it's mandatory
@nickdelaney6953
5 ай бұрын
@@astrozoo It should be abolished
The guy who molested his cousin is ridiculous, obviously your family doesn't want you around if you molested a family member... Also, it doesn't mean they don't forgive you, but it can retraumatize a sexual assault victim to see their assaulter on a daily basis. Sorry but that's obviously a consequence from your actions you have to live with, what did you expect.
@hambone4984
Жыл бұрын
My biological father has been trying to reconnect with our family over the years. He raped and molested me for years as a kid, and although I'm in my 30s and have been living my life (also thanks to lots and lots of therapy) I don't care if adult family members chat with him or reconnect, but if I went somewhere and he was there then I'd leave and only cause an issue if there were any of my nieces or nephews there. But from what I've heard from my siblings, he's been trying to reconnect with them for almost 20 years and the only thing I had to say to my sister was that she better not ever leave him around her kids and if she ever does choose to introduce them then someone needs to be watching every single interaction like their life depends on it because in my opinion no one's guard should ever be down around him, especially when there's kids around. He's been complaining about how he's not able to ever see or get to know his grandkids, he's been isolated from his family...etc. If someone wants to have contact with him then that's on them and they're living their life their way. I'd still likely have contact with that family member but I'm not going to have contact with him.
@phyllissowhat
Жыл бұрын
Why are you apologizing?
It was so clear that Asheef was manipulating the narrative even before getting to the part of sending an inappropriate photo to your producer. I've worked with teens who were offenders and the number one problem is what we called "thinking errors" like denial or gaslighting. This dude was never wrong. All his problems were from the system and his lying victim. He feels entitled and aggrieved; there's no awareness of the sexual assault as problematic. These are red flags in all caps.
I think the presentation of this is skewed, the section about Geoff for example casually mentioned that he was convicted of not just a sexual offence but also 'soliciting her murder' - I'm sorry but, that's not a small thing? Are we supposed to be feeling sorry for him? Let's not use the word 'stigma' about sex offences and murder - we are not in the wrong for feeling wary of these people, they are not the victims of an undeserving stigma here.
@cuttlefishagain
Жыл бұрын
I was like, wait what? with that, too. (The murder thing.) I am aware that there are people who are against the registry and think it's unfair, awful, inhumane, etc. So, I guess that's the stance this documentary was attempting to take. Ironically though it only seemed to confirm that the registry is needed. There was nothing compelling in here to show me that that the registry is exceedingly unfair. And I'm even on the open-minded side of having sympathy for what perpetrators probably went through in their own childhoods. etc. Maybe I can see that more services could be put in place to help find housing immediately after prison, or to help with the transition from prison to out-of-prison (like bus tickets to rural areas or something). Buuuut other than that, this doc did the opposite of convincing me the registry is wrong.
@angelalurtz3638
Жыл бұрын
Right? Like, there is stigma against victims of these crimes, and THAT'S uncalled for, but a perpetrator and predator SHOULD feel some shame for how they affected another human forever. Earned stigma should really just be called "people being wary of those who have PROVEN themselves dangerous."
@harrynicholes3166
Жыл бұрын
Until you understand how "Whyte Folks" can do just about ANYTHING and live to tell about it, don't waste your time.
@harrynicholes3166
Жыл бұрын
@@cuttlefishagain You heard it. Only the Untouchables get preferential treatment.
@ghostsamongus3370
6 ай бұрын
@@harrynicholes3166wtf? Playing the race card on everything I see 😂. You are soft as charmin
The stigma is there for a reason. Life should be hard for these types of criminals.
@STARSAPPHIRE91
Жыл бұрын
A LOT of people can't get a job or a stable living situation right now, these individuals aren't special in that regard. And there's no moral law that says people who commit egregious crimes against their fellow man, particularly crimes that weren't driven by poverty and necessity (such as sex crimes) are somehow entitled to an easy route to making a life for themselves after prison. Things are hard for EVERYONE right now. Things are probably hard for their victims as well. Truth be told, many of the things these offenders are whining about, victims of SA go through routinely throughout their lives due to extreme trauma and the mental disabilities it causes. Go into any homeless shelter, and you'll likely meet people, especially women, who've been victims of SA in childhood as well as throughout multiple periods in their adult lives and it's greatly affected their ability to hold down a job and keep stable housing. Then throw drug addiction into the mix, and things get even more difficult. These people also struggle with getting the services they need to have a stable life for themselves, and they're often thrown in jail for non violent crimes which only makes their ability to reintegrate into society even harder. These are the people I, and most of American society should care about as far as this broken system is concerned. The people who were dealt a horrible hand in life and were abused beyond mention, but have never hurt anyone other than themselves as a result. People who deliberately harm others through nothing other than their defective sexual deviancy really shouldn't be high up on anyone's list of priorities regarding their lack of ability to make a life for themselves.
@Narrow-Pather
Жыл бұрын
@Adam Peel There's no way to force someone to hire or house a known/accused sex offender. I'm a Negro. I've been apartment hunting and denied based on my ethnicity. I knew it, the landlord knew it, but proving it in a court of law would be another thing. If a landlord allows them to live on their property and they abuse again, is the landlord now an accessory since they knew who they were housing? These are adults who did these things. People who knew right from wrong and decided that fulfilling their lusts was worth whatever trauma they caused to another. They did this to themselves!
@droma2366
Жыл бұрын
Same sgoukd go for murders though
@Deecon1332
Жыл бұрын
but they should then be just as hard or even harder on murderers
@phucdatbich6569
Жыл бұрын
@@STARSAPPHIRE91 Yes they are. You're either lying or misinformed. This is the most severely targeted population around the world today and it's pretty clear that people like you would just rather people like me didn't exist. Well guess what? We're still around doing our thing and you just need to get used to it.
The victim is a wonderful human being to be still compassionate towards the man that assaulted her.
@jimjones1130
2 ай бұрын
Brainwashed liberal, they both disgusting
Pedopiles are monsters
I can't be the only one who was extremely irked by the way the reporter was speaking so nonchalanty about the crimes these people committed and how we should feel sympathy for them...
@PHlophe
Жыл бұрын
Veronica, nope she was being responsible. you cannot have a conversation about the victim without the perpetrator. it is never a zero sum thing for me
@blacktara3936
Жыл бұрын
Trying to normalize this evil. Sickening,
@necsefor
Жыл бұрын
She's absolutely horrible.
@GratDuForloradeArgumentet
Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@quilmesdave
Жыл бұрын
It's common in these progressive news channel. When they report about drugs, they glorify them.
"this is how we live" I lived with night terrors for a decade. I live with constant anxiety and fear. I live flinching from the hug of a family member because no matter how much I try to heal, the wound of a sexual assault cuts you to your soul. I feel no pity for them.
@user-uc5dm9bm7u
Жыл бұрын
God bless you 🙏 we are in this together
@justxue
Жыл бұрын
100%. Anything less than castration is s too light a punishment imo.
@bill-xm7dz
Жыл бұрын
Mind you that your real issue was with the very perpetrator who committed the assault - not everyone else on the Registry who had nothing to do with you. Not everyone is the same or interchangeable with your perpetrator - Nor do they deserve your personal disdain. Projecting is unhelpful and unhealthy for someone recovering from assault.
@josephbellott3371
Жыл бұрын
Your good now bro life is short put it behind you don't let that idiot stay in your head fk that sht.
@LeedleLeedle2212
Жыл бұрын
@@bill-xm7dz you must be registered.
“Just don’t be a sex offender” it’s that easy
I don’t feel bad for any sex offender, sorry not sorry 🤷🏻♀️
I’m so tired of society trying to normalize sexual violence. I hate that innocent people get accused but please for the sake of us all we need to know who and where these people are
@slyfox4564
Жыл бұрын
Theyre trying to normalize being corrupt. Politicans get dirty money. Doctors give you drugs and mutilate childrens genatils for money. Social media censors people who support freedom of speech while they allow for terrorist to thrive
@kazithecanecorso2724
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't rap do the same qith drugs, killing, robbing, pimping etc.
@witchplease9695
Жыл бұрын
@@kazithecanecorso2724 wtf does rap have to do with this? Say you’re a racist and go
@kazithecanecorso2724
Жыл бұрын
@@witchplease9695 say your stupid. Ok white liberal racist
@kazithecanecorso2724
Жыл бұрын
@@witchplease9695 typical liberal minded idiots. Owned by the white liberal. Everything is racist if you dont like what you hear.
"Don't commit sex offenses if you don't want to be on this registry!" Understatement of the year right there!!!
@JohnDoe-gy5dr
Жыл бұрын
Its that simple.
@harrynicholes3166
Жыл бұрын
Barney Fife would be outta of a job!
@JeremiahLOsborne
Жыл бұрын
But it's funny that the sheriff admitted that there are people who are so psychologically messed up that they don't know what they're doing. So which is it? Did they choose actions that would be on the list, or they just nuts?
The female journalist is delusional. The one statement that I agreed with is "we should ask the victims what types of punishments should sex offenders receive."
Pathetic! Complaining about confusing and tough rules, horrible showers and all sad while their victims live a mental hell they can't walk away from.
Thank you for this Vice. You have truly shown how terrible these people are and have fully convinced me that rapists and convicted pedos should receive the death penalty.
@KimMartinz_
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@NOCDIB
Жыл бұрын
Liberal ass Vice Media thinks capital punishment is draconian and immoral 🙄
@slyfox4564
Жыл бұрын
@Pierre Inits the easy way out
@AllhailTDLjimpic
Жыл бұрын
@Collin some murderers certainly deserve it. Otherwise no.
@AllhailTDLjimpic
Жыл бұрын
@Collin Prison. Are you trying to make a point?
No no he did not send that picture by mistake, he knew exactly what he was doing because how come you end up sending something to someone if you were not actually thinking about it or thinking of doing it… and that dude is even denying that he actually sexually assaulted that woman… he deserves all that treatment and I don’t think that he will ever change…..
@douglasr.c.5622
Жыл бұрын
That act proves he cannot control himself.
@chihirostargazer6573
Жыл бұрын
@@douglasr.c.5622 if he cannot control himself he should be removed from society.
@Delvina596
Жыл бұрын
I hope he gets back in jail
@Krolted
Жыл бұрын
Fr just say it as it is, hes a waste of air and resources. He’s like an irritating eyesore that doesn’t go away. Like a lost package with no address. A sickness.
@royaltyblessed2454
Жыл бұрын
Exactly he's the perfect example of someone that needs to be locked tf away
Sex offenders should stay in jail. They will only reoffend. This documentary sympathizes with sex offenders. Weird.
before you pity a sex offender, for the life long weight of their sins- change your perspective to the innocent victim who will forever carry that burden as well
Literally don’t care if they live in filth and squalor. Live with what you did just like your victim has too. As a CSA victim, I hate knowing my abuser is living a good life. I wish him nothing but the worst.
@samuelaceves7521
Жыл бұрын
it's a shame on society that's he's even out, im sorry
@braveheart9097
Жыл бұрын
Was your violator convicted?
@welcometothecafe2793
Жыл бұрын
@@braveheart9097 I dunno if she's going to answer, but, to vent a little, mine wasn't, and now he's released after committing his umpteenth felony. Grand larceny, assault on a woman, felony b&e; he's literally been charged for being a habitual felon, but he'll never be charged for what he did to me. How he's still free is beyond me, and it makes me mad. I know the city he lives in. It's in my state. I hate it. I want him dead, because I know he's done similar things.
@braveheart9097
Жыл бұрын
@@welcometothecafe2793 They're not often released with crimes similar to what you claim happened to you. I work in Texas and most of those dudes with serious assaults don't see the light of day for the next 10-20 years. There are rare occasions though. I'm sorry your abuser was able to be that rare occasion but I hope he really ends up paying for it this time around.
@welcometothecafe2793
Жыл бұрын
@@braveheart9097 Yeah, the assault charge he got was from the 80s I think, and it was assault on a woman, so... yeah. His last stint was 7 years after committing a lot of robberies and scams, but he's never been charged for sexual assault of any kind. Hope he rots, and, given his life choices, I'm sure he is.
Did Vice not report the explicit picture to the police? That would be an example of a sex offender re-offending.
As a victim I am watching this to try to gain a sense of empathy and understanding. I think it's always important to watch the other side of your opinion to see the world as not black and white. I do think there needs to be a level of nuance when approaching who deserves to be registered and who doesn't. There is a level of gray area that I think needs to be addressed. There are some cases that are non-violent minor offenses. I think it should be a part of sentencing on whether a conviction deserves registering or not.
i do think it is important for someone who committed a crime to face the consequences of their actions. But i also believe that people should be able to reiterate back into society. every one deserves to live. Even shitty people. People can change.
I was sexually abused at only 3 years old so I feel no sympathy for these men. I’m 26 years old now and I still suffer from mental trauma from what happened to me and I doubt it will ever go away. These men should have thought it through before committing their crimes 🤷🏼♀️
@faizalsalim1194
Жыл бұрын
I am sorry.
@faizalsalim1194
Жыл бұрын
@@PieInTheSky9 Shut up man. Don't be a jerk.
@sheilakatz8377
Жыл бұрын
@@PieInTheSky9 stfu we care! Thank you for telling your story
@PieInTheSky9
Жыл бұрын
So sad to be telling stories just for attention
@gregorycook5305
Жыл бұрын
This is an honest question. In no way am I trying to offend you. If you do not want to answer please feel free not to ma'am. Do you truly remember being abused at the age of 3 or were you told about the abuse? The reason for my question is because most children don't formulate lasting memories until the age of 5. This is obviously due to rapid changes to neurons and synapses in the child's brain.
I am kind of shocked by this interviewer's disposition. I was assaulted continuously throughout my childhood. I was raped as a teenager and adult. I have never had a close relationship with a woman who did not express she had been abused or assaulted sexually at one point in her life. Most never reported. I'm still open to discussions on how to effectively deal with them, because I know my first abuser was also a victim. That being said, I will never forgive him. There is reporting with an angle and then there is this bizarrely biased pieces. From the words she says to her intonation in the first half, she frames this almost as if sex offenses are not serious. A majority of sex offenses that are ACTUALLY prosecuted are egregious. There is significant evidence that sex offenders are very likely to re-offend. Other countries have tested that 're-integration' thing, even allowing child predators to interact with children regularly to 'desensitize' themselves. They deserve the stigma. I was abused and I did not continue that cycle. It is a god damn choice. Now if this was a piece about how black men are disproportionately accused and convicted of sex offenses without the evidence required to convict white men, that is worth a story. But this? I strongly disagree with this. It is careless towards victims, who are the most likely audience. Poorly done.
@SweetUareDesi
Жыл бұрын
Nah, black men aren’t victims in anyway in any aspect of life
@amandab1051
Жыл бұрын
I agree. She seriously just spoke about sex offenders not being allowed to dress up as Santa like that was wrong 😒
why is she defending sex offenders gross.
Always be very cautious of anyone/organization trying to soften you up on things like pedos/sex offenders
@paulrash8861
Жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯
@bigmac786
Жыл бұрын
really strange that she was defending sex offenders in this documenatry! While she was talking with them, she was smiling, acting compassionate etc, but as soon as she was talking to officials, her tone, energy was combative. Extremely strange, and i think quite telling in regards to the character of the journalist, but also of Vice's editorial line here. Why would Vice be comfortable releasing this, they should be ashamed. Now we know why they are going bankrupt.
@spennydawg4487
11 ай бұрын
@@bigmac786 She reeks of daddy issues and seems to have a chip on her shoulder about law enforcement. Classic vice "journalist".
@ThurstonWatt
9 ай бұрын
@@spennydawg4487 and yet here you are, spending your valuable time watching "Vice journalism". That chip looks pretty massive on your shoulder, buddy.
@spennydawg4487
9 ай бұрын
Hohoho you got me! Stop projecting like butthurt loser haha@@ThurstonWatt
Asheef wrong for that ending...he literally proved his whole arguement wrong for that last move, felt like a M.Knight Shamalan ending jeez
@leonjacobs3426
Жыл бұрын
Some people u cant empathize with. Let your guard down now you're a victim
@Childmo_Lester
Жыл бұрын
Tee hee hee I was complex too. My fans saw my humanity
@Slunkey
Жыл бұрын
Dude ruined all his credibility
@davokelly7876
Жыл бұрын
@@Childmo_Lester issues much
@Childmo_Lester
Жыл бұрын
@@davokelly7876 my fans know i have the mind of a child which makes man/boy sleepovers ok 🤷♂️👨👦🩲🌭😇
i was almost caught off guard by sarah’s empathy. she is so strong, and i think she sends an important message to survivors.
If your shower is mouldy, clean it!
I always find it strange that the sex convict has commited a crime against children but it cited that they have behaved well in prison, of course they have there is no kids in prison
Alice trying to humanize these offenders is insane even after interviewing the victim and the picture that was sent smh. Vice is wild. Don’t encourage the shame? I’ve seen it all bro
@alyciamarie4163
Жыл бұрын
The registry is one of the only things we have. These monsters commit hundreds of offenses before they are ever caught and/or sentenced. They give plea deals bc victims don’t want to testify so the registry is all we have to know who these people are.
@josephcat6735
Жыл бұрын
Everyone wants "unbiased" news until they actually get both sides of an issue presented
@MrNH718
Жыл бұрын
It's almost as if you didn't even watch the entire video. Smh
@Justin-jh4ym
Жыл бұрын
Rewatch the video smh
@braveheart9097
Жыл бұрын
Lol you totally skipped through the important parts of this video didn't you?
Civil rights for sex offenders?! They violated the Civil Rights of the individual they harmed!!
People who want sex offenders to be rehabilitated should keep them in their homes.
Protect the public from people convicted for public urination. Protect the public from people who had consensual sex with someone four years younger than they. Protect the public from someone convicted of illegal data on their cell phone. Protect the public from a naturist who was convicted of being unclothed. These laws are corrupt and inhumane. Most “sex” offenders never actually hurt anyone but absolutely no one is interested in even having this discussion of reforming this unfair system- for obvious reasons
I'm in my 20s now but was sodomized by my grandpa for two years when I was growing up. It's not only affected my life (hours of therapy, the need for many specialized services, etc) it's affected my family even more. My dad has tried to commit suicide two times due to his depression and guilt, my mom has had a difficult time holding down a job, etc. It's been a huge challenge for my family to deal with everything. Its really shocking to hear that the interviewer seems to feel that sex offenders are being treated poorly.
@ky2226
Жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry 😔
@stefaniebolton5469
Жыл бұрын
So sorry this happed to you. This is a triggering video for all survivors 😢
@Boukhari2020
Жыл бұрын
😢I am sorry to hear about what happened to u.. I pray that you get the help u need
@Punisher1830
Жыл бұрын
I had friend that working somewhere that this co worker was sexually harassing him and trying to keep it low key, and the management didnt do anything about it.
@Dennis-nc3vw
Жыл бұрын
Yikes, that's awful, I'm so sorry. That's kind of thing I could get behind a life sentence for. But not all sex offenses are this severe. Even public urination can get you on the registry.
As a victim of sexual assault myself, many of the people in this comment section are missing the point. People who commit sex offenses have done a TERRIBLE thing, but the idea that people have to pay their time and then move on is impossible when even after they leave jail it is impossible for them to get a job, find housing, or be seen by the community as anything other than disgusting. Human beings deserve life, the chance to live and thrive even after doing terrible things. If you deny someone their humanity, you don’t help their victims, you simply destroy the perpetrator. But what good does that do?
@mcren6781
6 ай бұрын
Exactly! If the SO has no hope of life, then they will just keep offending!
@poob1082
5 ай бұрын
@@mcren6781keep them locked up forever then.
@rosesavocado8557
3 ай бұрын
So you’d be okay with a child rapist moving into your neighbourhood?
May the depths of your compassion measure the compassion you receive.
Obviously she has never been affected by a sexual crime. People need to understand this crime affects victims for life and even causes more offenders. She may be should also talk to the victims and find out why these laws are important.
@Geewhizzy
Жыл бұрын
Yuppp I figure she would change her tune and her job once she understood by being a victim herself
It gives me comfort that people in the video and comments recognize that the victims live with this forever. I’m affected every day. There’s no getting over it. There’s learning to cope with the pain but the pain’s always there
@debbiewilby
Жыл бұрын
Fact!!!!
@cloverful18
Жыл бұрын
It gets better. hang on and stay strong. ❤
@tyreseforren6721
Жыл бұрын
@@debbiewilby it happened to me my cousin was the one who did it
@Taco_Raider
10 ай бұрын
There's more people on your side than it might feel like, sometimes, I'm sure. I can't pretend to understand what you go through.
@carlataylor5573
10 ай бұрын
It’s an every day struggle. The pain of knowing that someone hurt me so much as a child and is now all coming back to me in flashbacks. The fact that I didn’t know I was living with OCPD in response to childhood trauma and I never know what can trigger a flashback memory and send me back into panic mode. I don’t trust anyone. I’m overprotective with my kids. I have such a huge effect on everyone around me. It’s just consuming and exhausting. I live in a mental jail because of what someone like one of these monsters did to me.
“So-called sex offenders”??? What??
I went into this piece with an open mind, but trying to soften our hearts for actual sex offenders is very ODD
17:10 this part made me laugh “So you don’t think there’s a problem” No” “So basically your saying people who are looking for housing need to try harder” “Yes”
The fact that they think they have a right to complain after what they did to someone is disgusting. And this reporter sounds like she actually feels bad for these monsters? The way she said “even just sexting with your partner who is underage” like it’s not a problem?? I’m confused 🤦♀️
@ashh1371
Жыл бұрын
There was a news story about an 18 year old dating a 17 year old which is legal but sending nude photos of each other back and forth was illegal. The 18 year old was convicted of a sex crime against a minor and had to be on the registry. I’m assuming cases like that is what she was referencing.
@alexiscannon8297
Жыл бұрын
She did a really good job asking provocative questions to both sides of the conflict in a devil's advocate type of way
@capricornlove4816
Жыл бұрын
Is this show for real, so we are sympathetic to these people, what about the victims!
@lanxy2398
Жыл бұрын
I think there should be varying levels of punishment for different sexual offenses. Anything regarding children should be life in prison but there are men who are 20 or 21 on the list who messed up with their 17 year old girlfriend and now have their entire life ruined. I 100% understand what you mean but the registry has a lot of different offenses which definitely all don’t have equal severity
@jamiegreenberg8476
Жыл бұрын
for me there is a bit of nuance- when i was 17 i had an 18 year old boyfriend and we sexted one time (i was the one who initatied the conversation) everything was totally consensual. i dont think he should go to jail since there was no pressure from either person. technically i would also get arrested for the production and sharing of underage photos
That female lawyer should let some of these SAs to live with her for a bit and see in time if she is still so sympathetic to their cause.
@SD_Chosen
2 ай бұрын
She's around them all the time, She knows them better than you, You act like you're the expert...Some actually do change, And thevones who do, shouldn't get punishment for the ones who don't It's an individual thing 🙏🏽💯
@chihuahuasrule1175
2 ай бұрын
@@SD_Chosen Ok then, you can welcome them into your life all you want. All I'm saying is that I won't, since there is no real cure for it, (castration etc won't stop the real monsters, since they'll find other methods) and the ones professionals claim they've "cured" relapse. There was a local case where a "healed" predator relapsed twice after professionals claimed he was "cured." It does depend on the individual and how sick they are. The real sickos never get fixed. However, they are good at manipulating their psychologists.
@chihuahuasrule1175
2 ай бұрын
@@SD_ChosenWorking with someone outside of your private residence is different than living with an SO: No matter how long they've known each other. She'd NEVER live with them because even though she's sympathetic, she is not stupid. Some SO s are beyond rehabilitation since they are sociopaths who martyr themselves. (And I do think the consentual minor relationships don't count.) You can take them in all you want, but I won't since there is no known cure and relapse occurs far often than it should when an attempt is made via therapy... Maybe a small percentage are redeemable; meaning they don't act out on their sick thoughts. But at the end of the day, even the most redeemed SO has a victim left behind still traumatized by that SO s actions.
The sheriff made more sense in one group of sentences than this reporter made the entire video.
I only feel sorry for those who are truly falsely accused. As a victim, I can't feel bad for them.
@aimee9878
Жыл бұрын
Survive and thrive!
@isaac-vb1ng
Жыл бұрын
Hope you’re doing better now and find ways to get overcome all those horrible feelings, stay strong
@JonathanBrandonBissoo
9 ай бұрын
Not only am I a victim of sexual abuse, I am also falsely accused by my ex girlfriend. The court system is corrupt.
@offbeatblackgerl8360
9 ай бұрын
@JonathanBrandonBissoo That makes me sick to my stomach. OMG I can't stand false accusers. They disgusted me. I am so very sorry you are going through that.
Ashiff takes absolutely no accountability of his actions. He was blatant enough to send a explicit pic to a producer on a documentary about SEX OFFENDERS. That bold behavior will and should affect his freedom to protect the public.
@cuttlefishagain
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, wtf. Such audacity and even blindness (willful or not) toward his own actions.
@complacentcow
Жыл бұрын
They spend the whole doc talking about how unfair their treatment is and how they’re the least likely to reoffend and then he proves them totally wrong lol 🤦🏻♀️
Is she okay? Like seriously are there other people that have the horrible takes she does?
@lexelex1399
Жыл бұрын
What nuance do we need for soliciting a minor? The language is plain and clear