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@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

Fkn shame on you for not showing the other side Woman advertising their goods Do humans not advertise their goods.. intelligence? Physicality? What does fkn capitalism do but want these fkn things? I hate fkn triggepod for giving this man hating pile of shit a word

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

I have been a John And maybe trigger point Methinks triggernometry need too tackle white working class family law It isn’t famous Hated white thugs that love their children.. White working class men that are normal ????! Fkn very strange And the thugs are white Working class Men ????!

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

Subscribe for more?? What Will you proscribe too 95 percent of the population? The law in Scotland is hatred I am Scottish my ex was Chinese The hatred isn’t cultural It isn’t hatred It is politics

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

White working class men are the defunct problem !!!!!!!!! I fkn dare you too deny this dkn fact

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

Who do we vote for? Even the Tory’s are swayed onto feminist ideology

I’d like to see all these people that say sex work is a real job promoting it to their own children as a career, especially their daughters.

@jrd33

Ай бұрын

Why on earth would you like to see that, if you are against sex work?

@zaxbitterzen2178

Ай бұрын

@@jrd33 That's the point. It's sarcasm bruh.

@docsavage8640

Ай бұрын

Because they won't because they know it's shameful and dangerous

@brendamuirhead483

Ай бұрын

@@jrd33 because I know it would never happen…they say it is a real job but they would never encourage their own daughters to choose it as a career….their attitude is that it is ok for other peoples children to do it. Apologies for complex language, I thought the meaning was clear.

@vulkanofnocturne

Ай бұрын

I don't like this argument. Politician, real estate agent, front line services, military are all 'real work' but I wouldn't encourage my kids to pursue them for various reasons

Telling 19 year old girls who have just arrived at Uni that prostituting themselves is the same as doing waitressing or office work or something boggles my mind. You don't have to be an academic to immediately understand why that could be profoundly damaging to someone who may not have even had a serious relationship yet.

@andrewworth7574

Ай бұрын

So in your mind all work is the same, therefore prostitution isn't work? You think working as a test pilot is the same as office work?

@T_J_

Ай бұрын

Funny thing is, I can't find any record of any university saying that to their students. Can you cite a source for that claim? Thanks.

@EmperorSigismund

Ай бұрын

@@T_J_ University of Leicester published a "Students Sex Work Toolkit' as one example.

@Jaco059

Ай бұрын

@@T_J_hahaha you got so owned dude my local community college in Colorado had one hahaha made my day

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

This was not about encouraging students to start sex work, it was about helping students who ALREADY do this stay safer.

Reminds me of 1800s slavery propaganda. They made pictures of the "simple, happy" slave. "See, they're happy, it's fine!" It's also why Frederick Douglass looks so stern in his portraits, he was fighting against the "happy slave" image.

@PGHEngineer

Ай бұрын

Yeah, but you can actually go to websites and ask the girls themselves. You don't have to make up nonsense or take the word of a lesbian with a long history of misandry.

@greensorrel6860

Ай бұрын

​@PGHEngineer you sound very unbiased lol, maybe a purchaser

@davidcook680

Ай бұрын

Meh maybe some were happy. I'm sure some was. I been around homeless people who are happy. People living in poverty happy.

@PGHEngineer

Ай бұрын

@@davidcook680 Go and ask them. There are websites where you can do that. Educate yourself.

@Newnodrogbob

Ай бұрын

@@PGHEngineeryou’ve missed the point entirely. They’re lying. We know they’re lying because we have *checks notes* the testimony of every woman who has ever left that life. While they’re in the life, they know that the “correct” answer to keep the Johns and the pimps happy is to say they love their job. Jesus, it’s not brain surgery. Most people don’t like their job, but if they’re asked to make a public statement that might be seen by the boss, they’ll say they like it fine. “You can ask the girls yourself,” 🙄

Andrea Dworkin spoke up against this back in the 70s and 80s. It was from a radical feminist perspective, but she wasn’t wrong. Julie Bindel is continuing the work of anti porn feminism.

@jonathanj.7344

Ай бұрын

Andrea Dworkin was a vile, man hating, piece of work.

@latequilera22

15 күн бұрын

Her work has been maligned and misinterpreted. So now you have dummies claim she was a man hater and "sex is violence". christ its awful .

@badgerattoadhall

14 күн бұрын

and anti-man obese homosexuals; who could not exist in a universe for more than a few seconds without men.

@konyvnyelv.

10 күн бұрын

Radical feminists also said every male orgasm is räpe

If SW is real work then put it on your resume

@nforne

Ай бұрын

I’m self employed.

@andrei1637

Ай бұрын

I mean, they do when they try to get a job in sex industry

@WakandaleezaRazz

Ай бұрын

They call it “social media influencer” 👀

@beanbrewer

Ай бұрын

When it's relevant to the position, they do

@gorequillnachovidal

Ай бұрын

so if you work under the table and can't put it on your resume I guess that isn't work..... I got a job doing IT but I didn't put my tenure at Hardy's on my resume.... was it work?

The dehumanization of our society makes my soul hurt.

@Minotaur-ey2lg

Ай бұрын

Funny how humanism has led to one of the most degrading societies in history.

@chrisjenkins9978

Ай бұрын

It’s the world’s oldest profession.

@evad7933

Ай бұрын

Work, per se, is dehumanising.

@evad7933

Ай бұрын

​@@chrisjenkins9978Employment, per se, is all about hiring out bodies. Why single out sex work?

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

Dehumanisation is done by the likes of Bindel who speaks over us and pretend we don’t have any agency.

There’s nothing safe about sexual encounters with multiple strangers for profit. Anyone with a bit of common sense can understand that.

@Queen.S.2024

5 күн бұрын

There's nothing SAFE About sexual encounters with multiple strangers REGARDLESS if it is with profit or not... I.e sleeping around..... It does more damage than good...

My sex worker friend was knocked unconcious with a blow she never saw . She laid on the grass of a park and felt lucky to wake up at all, three hours later with a concussion she's never recovered from . Nobody insures sex workers against injury , illness, disability , time off work.

@ravanpee1325

Ай бұрын

Yes, because so many people in the US don't have health care or are not covered by insurances..which will also not pay if you have one

@Mortablunt

Ай бұрын

This is why legal codified sex work complete with proper company structure and employee rights is important.

@ravanpee1325

29 күн бұрын

@@Mortablunt Also this would not happen with prober working/labour security e.g. mandatory codoms, security, etc

@hello93617

28 күн бұрын

​@@ravanpee1325 And then the Johns (the people who hire prostitutes) would seek out more desperate prostitutes who would let them not use a condom and be more abusive. That's the thing about people who see sex as a commodity. They generally don't have a great value system that keeps them from hurting people for personal gain.

@elizabeth.601

26 күн бұрын

​@@Mortablunt ffs. This shit again. Sex work is not real work. Its exploitation. Sex work and porn is damaging to men and women both. Wtf would you want to legalise exploitation?! It only benefits the pimps

Glamorizing sex work is definitely a thing, especially for the users.

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

Glamorous work isn’t a thing What work would you glamorize???? I am interested

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

Glamour….. wow a rhing

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

The users of a penis inserting a vagina This means that men are bad Especially white working class bad men

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

This is the outcome of you’re frivolous conspiracy

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

If you cared to hear any sex worker rights groups you’d known nobody is “glamorising” it but only wants workers rights and be free from violence and discrimination. We acknowledge challenges and risks involved which is why we want full decrim.

Now that I know more about sex tourism, I could not be more horrified by these "sex work is real work" people. No woman or child should have to live through that. I was completely shocked when I found out that human sex traficking is worth more than the illegal drugs trade.

@PsilentMusicUK

Ай бұрын

Alright, but you're effectively describing the same difference as between actual work and slavery. If you're forced into prostitution then you're not a worker, you're enslaved. Whether something is/isn't work isn't defined by how you feel about it. There's a basic economic definition for what work is - do you receive money in exchange for your labour? If yes, then it's work. The only way around this is to argue that female prostitutes aren't engaged in labour, which would be an insult to the women involved.

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

The reason SW groups say “sex work is work” is avoid precisely what you’re describing. Only Giving sex workers agency and legal protection can combat exploitation in the sex trade.

@Jaco059

Ай бұрын

@@joanna9215hahahaha

@WorldPeace21

Ай бұрын

Sex work and sex trafficking are two different things. People who advocate for sex work abhor sex trafficking.

@shrikeofterven6006

Ай бұрын

People who say they abhor trafficking but vigorously defend prostitution are advocating for both. @@WorldPeace21

A true feminist should never support “sex work is work”! We should not berate sex workers, but glorifying it is crazy, it benefits man more than woman!

@astromigui

2 күн бұрын

Why would a men subjugate himself to the judment of a picky woman if he can pay to go see a prostitute ? I totally agree with you, women should realise that bringing the cost of sex down for men brings society down as a whole.

You know the world has gone mad when the woke brigade try to cancel Julie Bindel of all people. She was advocating for gay and women’s rights when most of these people were still in nappies.

@thecollector6746

Ай бұрын

She is, an absolute myopic fool that she is...basing her entire argument around "I can't imagine why you would want to have sex with men for money, let alone for free"

@Mortablunt

Ай бұрын

Listen, I consider my access to pussy HOT to concern important for my sanity and moral stuff. Anything gets in the way of my pussy supply I am going to act to protect it, and I will get violent if I must! For some of us guys who were never attractive, never charismatic, never rich, and now past the dating age and crazy busy with careers, Sometimes all we got to get us through a month is just a couple hours with a sex worker. The only time you get to decompress, let our the stress, and have enjoyment. Those couple hours between the thighs, savoring the touch and conversation of a beautiful woman, is the difference between holding up well, and being visibly not OK, and barely keeping myself functioning by drinking like boozing in between shifts.

Anyone who has any experience of anything in life knows that the actual mechanics of prostitution must be hell.

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

The mechanics of most physical jobs ‘can be hell’ It is whether you proscribe too sex being something ‘different’

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

Julie blatantly ignores the family court Men have been driven too suicide by a feminist system that hates men And sadly interviewing this woman is below you

@aroemaliuged4776

Ай бұрын

Julie bindel is like the fuhrer being interviewed by Stalin And Neville chamberlain

@johnashton3088

Ай бұрын

Well, if you are in a wheelchair, disfigured by burns, or worse, then it's relief from Hell. The most common primary job for prostitutes is nurse. Why is that? Are nurses somehow self hating. No, they are compassionate. Those who have never seen a prostitute or talked to one have a ludricrous image in their heads.

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

I am an actual prostitute and the 9-5 for peanuts with perspectives for nothing more than bills paid (and these days that “normal job” is not even enough), and once being thrown into desperate poverty being fired form a so called “normal” job was my idea of hell.

Just because they may orgasm, doesn't mean they actually enjoy it. The body reacts as it reacts, especially if they dissociate. It's also possible to orgasm during SA - not because the victim actually enjoys it but the body may reacts to stimulation. I don't remember the %, but apparently it happens sometimes. And it doesn't mean enjoyment,if anything, it probably adds even more to feeling vulnerable and abused. So even if sex-workers may at times experience orgasm, that alone doesn't mean anything.

@marietighe6328

Ай бұрын

Very true ❤

@leonidfro8302

Ай бұрын

>> Just because they may orgasm, doesn't mean they actually enjoy it It kinda does. >> It's also possible to orgasm during SA - not because the victim actually enjoys it Also false. Let's say I kidnap and imprison you, but provide great food. You may enjoy the meal, but kidnapping and imprisonment are serious crimes. >> that alone doesn't mean anything Yes it does. It means that person at least isn't suffering.

@joane24

Ай бұрын

@@leonidfro8302 I think you should educate yourself more on the subject. If someone tickles you and you're laughing does it mean you're happy? Because laugh = happy or at least not suffering, doesn't it?

@joane24

Ай бұрын

@@leonidfro8302 Your example with the good food and imprisonment - that doesn't mean you're not suffering. You do, because you're still imprisoned. You're suffering morally and mentally, and physically you may as well because outside the times of food you might be tortured. And just because the food they give you isn't' abysmal to your senses, that doesn't mean you're not suffering and that your dignity isn't violated, your free will and agency taken away etc. (in cases of kidnapping/imprisonment).

@megsley

Ай бұрын

​@@leonidfro8302 so many words just to prove you don't have a clue.

As a man I am utterly astonished that so many women are trying so hard to give away women’s rights. Utterly baffling.

@vladaburlakova1529

12 күн бұрын

Right???

@konyvnyelv.

10 күн бұрын

Both women and men have the right to sell sex

@user-kb1hw2yq2f

3 күн бұрын

Its easy. Once a society begins its path to a collapse, insanity because the norm and shame is completely gone.

@mariannemartin5086

Күн бұрын

We are brainwashed to be the cool girl who is cool with everything. We’re taught from early childhood that pleasing/appeasing others, as well as sex appeal, will be our only value in this life - and even if your parents try to teach you otherwise, the media will keep trying to convert you to that belief. Not all of us make it out of that cult.

I blame Vice Magazine, Teen Vogue, Buzzfeed, HuffPost and Cosmo for pushing this mindset.

Well said Julie Bindel, highlighting the moral corruption at the heart of some universities and the horrible exploration of women.

@janesmith8050

Ай бұрын

*exploitation

@evad7933

Ай бұрын

Ha ha ha. Does that exploration involve drilling?

@waltersobchuk-khesanh

Ай бұрын

@@evad7933fracking

@PGHEngineer

Ай бұрын

I think it's the women that are doing the exploiting, £150 for an hour and often the experience is sh*t. What we need is an NVQ and apprenticeships to improve quality in this industry. It might help to drive out the amateurs.

@hanzo2001

Ай бұрын

Moral corruption enabled by her ilk and their broken ideology. She is reaping what she helped sow. No tears

Honestly after she points this out, “sex work is real work” DOES sound like something we men would whisper into feminism to trick them into legalizing prostitution for our benefit… 🤔

@EB321

Ай бұрын

Totally! The whole “free love” movement was a subversion of feminism and so many women flocked to it because it’s so much easier to support something that men love

@pmoneygf

Ай бұрын

If you ever were in the sad position of having to bang a whore you will realize nobody benefits

@ephraimwinslow

Ай бұрын

It comes in 2 flavours total. Sneaky phoquery from us, and self-serving cap from them.

@T_J_

Ай бұрын

The irony of your view being that if it was fully legalised, sex workers would be a damn sight safer than they are now.

@bleechrcreechrr

Ай бұрын

​@T_J_ what's unsafe about only fans? It's made sex work incredibly safe. So safe that too many women do it

My ex was an actual sex worker and that was eons ago but she still bares the scars and emotional burden. Turns out when you average 1,600 customers across 6 months at 17-18 years old you get serious self worth issues.

@smellthecoffee5314

17 күн бұрын

9 blokes a day, every day for six months ? Don't believe that. Would you like give us the actual figure ?

@N0p3er5

17 күн бұрын

Are YOU okay after dating her?? Those types of women are often abusive to their partners and have severe personality disorders that are incurable.

@N0p3er5

17 күн бұрын

@@smellthecoffee5314 some of them may only be subscribers to her trash.

@akiraraiku

15 күн бұрын

​@@smellthecoffee5314the worst "slaughter house" brothels could have their girls do more than 100 pass a day

@no_one699

14 күн бұрын

That number is only possible of the girl is forced to do it by her tr@ffikers

That girl's PhD thesis proves that they'll give a PhD to anyone these days

@stuartburns8657

Ай бұрын

Always has been the case? Never been about the topic, it's about the work and research that goes into it

@Mr_user_1000

Ай бұрын

In the US Trump proved they'll give the presidency to anyone these days.

@spleefy

Ай бұрын

Clearly you have no idea how PhD's work

@stevensica5918

Ай бұрын

Tell us about the one you earned?

@spleefy

Ай бұрын

@@stevensica5918 I'm still only half way through my professional doctorate in psychology at the moment, it's hard work

The crux of this whole thing is that progressivism as a force has stopped winning worthy concessions and long since moved into transgressing boundaries just for the sake of it. There's a conflation of sexually degrading behaviour and freedom.

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

I don’t feel degraded selling sex and I can decline doing things I don’t want to do. There were times I felt truly degraded yes - I felt much more degraded when I got fired from my “normal job” for protesting about grooming gangs. I was fired with immediate effect and walked out of office like a criminal. On the spot, thrown into poverty and brink of homelessness.

@RossKempOnYourMum01

Ай бұрын

@@joanna9215 good for you, you're either one of the 1% who don't feel degraded exchanging intimacy for cash; or you're lying to yourself/deluded.

@scott8448

Ай бұрын

It’s not progressivism, it’s feminism. Feminism pushes women to be free and what’s the freest thing to do but to do what people have been forcing you not to do all your life. Until you can counteract that point your whiny preaching will do nothing but push more young people into SW. Good luck trying to fix it either look like a pedo saying there’s nothing wrong with sex for young people or keep looking like an angry person trying to tell others what to do with their lives. The actual solution is don’t give a fuck about these lowlifes, they aren’t going to change and when they do because they can’t sell themselves anymore it will be too late for them, meaning it’s already too late they are a lost cause and should be treated as such.

@carolynbrightfield8911

Ай бұрын

interesting. After that horrendous experience of being fired, I wonder was that when she feely chose to move into the sex industry. Did she freely choose when she was on the brink of poverty and homelessness, or did she freely choose to leave the high paying corporate job she got after being fired.

@JiMMY-my1ds

Ай бұрын

Great point. Just screened shot this!

Seriously, it's a joy hearing specifically a woman talk about this shit. How are men meant to point this out or bring that standard up? It's wild.

@RossKempOnYourMum01

Ай бұрын

I'd love to see her set foot in a PureGym and see what the 18-25 year old women are wearing

@DEadJACK4090

Ай бұрын

@@RossKempOnYourMum01 that's another great point. It's difficult to describe the risks and games women when flirting or getting validation from men. Lesbians can't stand the idea of them viewing us like this, make it difficult to explain how much it's the women actively putting themselves out there. Still some how our fault 🤔

@jujutrini8412

Ай бұрын

@@DEadJACK4090What the heck has women being flirtatious at the gym got to do with “sex work is work”?

@Undomaranel

Ай бұрын

​@@jujutrini8412 Because displaying the body is animalistic. Humans, the creature with instincts and territory fights and the four fs, view nudity as an invitation. But disciplined humans, aka people? We clothe ourselves not just against the weather, but to respect each other and help us ignore temptations.

@mrwu2

Ай бұрын

All we ever hear is feminism and it's all we've heard for the past 30 years. Voices like hers are far from censored

I will NEVER understand why anyone would think sex work is WORK!

@angelozachos8777

Ай бұрын

I mean , you get paid for it ? 🤷‍♂️

@warface4881

Ай бұрын

It's one of the oldest forms of work.

@ChEkAlOtIcH3

Ай бұрын

​@@angelozachos8777 i think he doesnt mean work in a literal sense. You get paid, yes, but then again comparing it to office work or any other normal type of job is the problem. Sex work is the work that women with desperate need of money tend to take and the traumas and dehumanization behind it is terrible

@penmaster003

Ай бұрын

@@warface4881Categorically untrue.

@warface4881

Ай бұрын

@@penmaster003 that's not what your mom said.

I'm ashamed to admit that I studied at Durham University...a teaching degree....I would never advocate sex work for anyone. I'm disgusted

An uncomfortable truth for both sexes. As a species we really need to sort out how we have enjoyable healthy sex, understanding the different needs of male and female. Sex, hetro or homo is intimate, important, sensual, connective. All but also nothing in human relationships - everything “queer” theory is not. Sex should not be bought or sold it is far too important.

@WorldPeace21

Ай бұрын

Sex is not free.

@shrikeofterven6006

Ай бұрын

Maybe those who feel they have to pay for it should take a yearlong vow of abstinence and work on being better human beings. @@WorldPeace21

@TheFakeyCakeMaker

Ай бұрын

We already know. We just don't want to accept what "happy normal sex" is. People want to normalise their lusts and perversions.

@Planeet-Long

Ай бұрын

This just sounds like gatekeeping, "how dare women sell sex to men I don't like?! These men should be alone forever!".

@ezekielrayfield1512

25 күн бұрын

It actually very simple and Christians figured it out literally centuries. It called marriage

These women are traumatized.. and end up piling on more trauma. And if they weren't using some substance going in, end up doing so to cope.

@gefiltefist2088

Ай бұрын

Their alternatives must have been awful

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

Now think about what legal and societal attitudes cause this trauma. It’s not punters, just giving you a hint.

@Jaco059

Ай бұрын

@@gefiltefist2088o no a normal college life and decent job the horror

@Jaco059

Ай бұрын

@@joanna9215John Money

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

Stigma and hatred is what drives violent offenders who think we are fair game and rape sponges. “Sex work is work” is exactly to armour is with legal protection to have legal recourse against such people. And against people who think we “should” be hounded out of town for consensual behaviours.

I can’t believe books calling prostitution (glorified sex slavery) harmful to women are being labeled as triggering

@konyvnyelv.

10 күн бұрын

It's not slavery if you can stop

As a women living in a 3rd world country who has worked with women who were former sex workers, sex work is the lowest of the low and only should be an option when you have no other options. If you're a sex worker, no one will ever respect you, and that includes your man/partner, children, family, friends or customers. You are basically a pariah until you you move to a place where they don't know you, and that is is none existent especially if you don't live in a 1st world country. Everyone knows everyone and you're life is prectically over if you think that's an option.

@konyvnyelv.

10 күн бұрын

It's bad only because society makes it bad. If it was accepted it would be like all other jobs

@deepakabraham8831

7 күн бұрын

​​​@@konyvnyelv.But why on earth does society think it's bad!??? 🙄

She is based beyond belief. Everything from hooking to OF is vile.

@gefiltefist2088

Ай бұрын

Yeah, carbon based…

@Jaco059

Ай бұрын

@@gefiltefist2088we’ve had slavery forever just accept it

@gefiltefist2088

Ай бұрын

Almost as long as we’ve been carbon based@@Jaco059

@daftwod

Ай бұрын

Buttery biscuit based

@DeanP111

Ай бұрын

I’m confused how claiming men are the beneficiaries of feminism is based. Absurd? Deluded? Those things, yeah. The very reason for the spate of s*x workers is Feminism. Her and her type drove this to be acceptable in society.

Brilliant, Julie Bindel , thought provoking, but with the added superpowers of humanity and humour 👍👍

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

She advocates for legal “solutions” that harm sex workers and cost them their lives whatever they’re implemented, she actively speaks over women affected and deliberately misrepresents their arguments, and you call this humanity?

@1234567marks

Ай бұрын

@@joanna9215 simple, I don’t accept your proposition.

@mrwu2

Ай бұрын

She's a disgraceful extremist. The kind who'd be locked up for incitement were she a man talking about misandry

I wouldn't say it benefits men. The ubiquity of porn, including only fans, is actually quite destructive to men and is essentially a drug addiction.

@shrikeofterven6006

Ай бұрын

In the long term, neither men nor women benefit from prostitution, slavery and degradation.

@hallowakers3d2y

Ай бұрын

She is a well known misandrist she thinks anything that is bad benefits men because man=bad

@KristinA-xv4yk

Ай бұрын

As much as ppl claim to love a classically liberal democracy, what ppl actually need is authority. Imagine if the gov required ISPs to force customers to register for access to porn sites. Ppl could still access porn if they wanted to, but they’d have to explicitly request access. How many teen boys & girls would be saved from the addiction? Millennials & Gen Z are already rotted brain addicts, bc of ease of access. Imagine a new generation that never had to deal with such struggles, & the plethora of secondary changes that would come from that.

@samezidrovibes

Ай бұрын

It’s doesn’t benefit them, but for a moment. Simultaneously, in that moment man and woman are both destroyed. Truly heartbreaking.

@Mortablunt

Ай бұрын

@KristinA-xv4yk Conservatism- mask-off.

Many claiming this as the "oldest profession" are just repeating a quote from a 1889 Rudyard Kipling story. Many professions claimed to be "the oldest" well before his time, such as horticulturalists, priests, midwives, etc.

@shrikeofterven6006

Ай бұрын

Prostitution is the oldest oppression, though.

@MesmerBaas

Ай бұрын

In a study where monkeys were being observed for behavior, they even observed that monkeys will sell sex for food. There is plenty of evidence to support the claim that prostitution is (one of) the oldest professions in the world.

@Planeet-Long

Ай бұрын

The actual oldest profession is being a soldier, that was the first profession where people were paid with money.

@decoraqueena6413

Ай бұрын

​@@shrikeofterven6006 this! Pr0stitution is a testament to how long misogyny has existed.

@vegbeg9170

18 күн бұрын

@@Planeet-Long Pls elaborate.

So sad , the world is upside down. May God have mercy on the academics who teach that this type of work is healthy and good. Absolutely disgusting

@Metonymy1979

Ай бұрын

Here's a question, when was it right side up?

@T_J_

Ай бұрын

How come your god doesn't come and fix everything, then? It'd be an absolute doddle compared to creating the whole cosmos and everything in it ...

@sydneywest7082

Ай бұрын

who said its good

@evad7933

Ай бұрын

Self righteous nonsense.

@markshepperson3603

Ай бұрын

This god, can you give me one bible verse in support of women’s equality? Bible states rape of a virgin is a property crime against the father. Numbers 11 also is vile.

If sex work was just work then the job shop would be able to insist one’s sons and daughters should take the vacancy at the brothel before any benefits could be received . That’s a silly , sordid idea .

@WorldPeace21

Ай бұрын

That's not true. New Zealand decriminalized prostitution in 2003. It's governed by the Prostitution Reform Act. A section of the act specifically prevents this from happening.

@shrikeofterven6006

Ай бұрын

​@@WorldPeace21Why? If prostitution is just like other work, why have this exemption?

@carolynbrightfield8911

Ай бұрын

​@@WorldPeace21so, does that mean the unemployed in NZ can refuse any job they don't want to do. If the unemployed lose benefits for not accepting jobs available, why would prostitution be any different to any other unskilled job.

@OrwellsHousecat

Ай бұрын

Just a matter of time

@WorldPeace21

Ай бұрын

@@shrikeofterven6006 Sex work is work, but it is not a job like any other. Analogy: being a soldier is work, but it is not a job like any other. The unemployment office can't force you to join the army.

If 'sex work is work' the 'enthusiastic consent' narrative has no leg to stand on either.

@ba3725

Ай бұрын

How?

@annax9375

Ай бұрын

@@ba3725 Because the point is te money and the vast majority of people cant choose to work only when they feel like it.

Sex work dehumanizes sex.

@user-hf3bp2gy6d

21 күн бұрын

Work dehumanizing humanity we sure ant trying to ban or trancend that are we we should focus on important shit

@N0p3er5

17 күн бұрын

Hard agree.

@N0p3er5

17 күн бұрын

@@user-hf3bp2gy6d normal jobs don't cause personality disorders.

@joshbobst1629

12 күн бұрын

Sure, just like wage labor dehumanizes labor. To live in this system we all have to commodify some part of ourselves that belongs only to us and sell it to whoever will rent it from us, unless we own the means of production.

@konyvnyelv.

10 күн бұрын

Sex work gives dignity to sex

Starting a PHD now. Looking for funding BUT I will not be doing any Sex Work. It is sick...

@scott8448

Ай бұрын

Looking for funding? In my day that was called getting a job, no one else’s job to fund your career but yours.

@GeneralRamm910

Ай бұрын

Come on, big daddy, you know you want to lol

@sid2112

Ай бұрын

My wife is a professor teaching a PhD class. She got some loans and some grants. Check out grant opportunities for your field of study. Lots of private grants out there too so cast a wide net.

@GeneralRamm910

Ай бұрын

@sid2112 Or he can join the cool kids club and do sex work lol One of us... One of us...

@harnessriscallous7466

Ай бұрын

Just handies then?

I always considered JB a mad old bat, and then the Trans incident happened at Edinburgh University. As the father of a daughter, I saw the attempts to erase women and the safety of women-only spaces. Well done, JB and JKR.

@star_fossil

Ай бұрын

The "mad old bats" are the only ones holding back the freaks at the gate. They need reinforcements.

@sarahsue42

Ай бұрын

We do!​@@star_fossil

@jordanandrew2786

Ай бұрын

Given that feminists have repeatedly made efforts to destroy exclusively male spaces, it should come as no surprise that some narcissistic, malevolent men would return the favor. While it's pitiable in a sense, my support for feminists avoiding sleeping in the bed they've made is miniscule.

@wiLLmo12235

Ай бұрын

She is a mad old bat. Even broken clocks are right twice a day, but she's talking nonsense on this issue.

@m.2891

Ай бұрын

God I miss mad old bats

I go by “if you couldn’t stomach doing your job for your parents it might not be honest”.

She is so right. Women lose out now it's tragic and it's all under the guise of a kind of strength....

@shrikeofterven6006

Ай бұрын

Men lose out, too. Most men who use prostitutes and get hooked on pron don't end up better men because of it. So, they will face more rejection from non-degraded women which makes them bitter and lonely.

What a garbage PhD thesis. Who gave that the go ahead? What panel awards a PhD for that crap?

@360decrees2

19 күн бұрын

Horny professors.

@MrShysterme

18 күн бұрын

I saw an interview with a woman that graduated art school by making her big final project a film centered around a gangbang with strangers that her husband filmed. Extreme liberals are pretty much loons at this point.

The sooner you objectify love the quicker it slips away and the sooner you commodify intimacy the quicker you will feel nothing

@sdrawkcabUK

Ай бұрын

yes, but what of those who will never find love? I'm talking the 1-3/10 men, or those with physical/mental diabilities. We all know these men are write-offs and most women wouldn't look twice at them. Should they live sex-less lives, due to an accident of birth? Sure, it's a fake parody of the real thing, but that is all these men will ever get.

@shrikeofterven6006

Ай бұрын

Most of the johns are not in those classes. Sex is not a guarantee in life for anybody. @@sdrawkcabUK

I enjoy doing whatever you may call it, if you can't call it "work." I work at a brothel and offer services that include a massage and safe sex. This job allows me to live a life without financial stress. Working at the brothel is safe, and overall pretty fun too. Some places offer free food, including my workplace. The majority of the time consists out of hanging out with the girls (who are in their 20s and 30s and normal), drinking tea, gossiping and watching Netflix. Yup, that is what we do behind the scenes. And that sometimes gets interrupted by a "john". I never thought I would do this, ever, but life got me here anyway. There is a 99% chance you have (known) a woman in your life who does this work, but won't tell you. Sexwork will never be a normal job, and it shouldn't be (promoted). But it has to stay legal, so we can stay protected under the law. I am in my mid 20s, and I hope to achieve more in life. But for now, I am 100% content. I used to think to myself: at least I'm not a slaughterhouse worker, taking innocent lives. I'm using my body for financial gains without endangering or harming anyone. And I am very grateful to be alive, healthy, and have this freedom. Thank you.

If "sex work" ever gets seen as any other type of labor. Children and family will be next in the slippery slope. Its not wrong to pay a teenage boy in my neighborhood to help me move my couch, and if sex work is work, what's the harm? This "logic" needs to be stopped at all costs.

@harnessriscallous7466

Ай бұрын

That's why bartenders exist, because they all serve children.

@jusallah3639

26 күн бұрын

It's wrong because pedophilia is wrong, its just as wrong as paying a teenager to perform brain surgery on someone.

@N0p3er5

25 күн бұрын

💯

@candideggplant1575

23 күн бұрын

A distinction can be made. Consenting adults can work. Child labor laws exist and obviously hurting a child is illegal.

@N0p3er5

23 күн бұрын

@@candideggplant1575 wtf. Lots of adults also do not have a choice and are being trafficked. Get your head out of the sand.

The west has turned into a sh!t hole with smart phones...

@KallusGarnet

14 күн бұрын

And its your fault

“You go do it then mate”…lol, brilliant response.

Strange how the kooks consider it a legitimate vocation… while demonizing/criminalizing the male clientele… it cant be both…

I cannot believe what I just heard Julie say about Durham University. The veneer of civilisation society had achieved over the last two-three hundred years is fast disappearing.

She is on POINT

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

As missing the point as she possibly can. And I am saying this as a real life prostitute..

@minbari73

Ай бұрын

The world's oldest profession should go away and let those who cannot maintain or even have relationships suffer in their wank silence.

@brainysmurf74

Ай бұрын

You mean it

Two issues- Feminism is a philosophy, sex work is a business. The question is "How far can "feminism" go? What are its moral limits?" Gloria Steinem talked about Playboy's "phony glamour and exploitative employment policies." How has feminism forgotten this?

@kelleygreengrass

Ай бұрын

Actual feminists haven't

@Embarrassed4U

Ай бұрын

Feminism is gender communism.

@Jaco059

Ай бұрын

Actual feminists are a left wing tool

@harnessriscallous7466

Ай бұрын

Cuz women dum

@susuileamura

16 күн бұрын

I was born and raised as a feminist we do not believe subjugating women, it's not part of our belief system

Sex work is definitely work. Anyone doing physical labor and getting paid for it is "working". Construction workers, police officers, firemen, sanitation workers, janitors. All occupations that sell their body. Those are jobs people do, but may not love, just the same as a sex worker. If you tax it, legalize it, legitimize it. You'd take it out of the darkness and improve conditions for people who choose sex work. So long as sex exists, sex work will exist.

@KallusGarnet

14 күн бұрын

I rather it be regulated and added to the health industry.

Sex work is work weather we like it or not You perform a service and you get paid for it, it is work Is it good, is it bad, that's a different subject

@MrShysterme

18 күн бұрын

You should know very well that the phrase "sex work is work" is meant to say it is equivalent to other jobs in the good/bad area. You are pretending not to get what they are actually trying to do with that phrase. It is somewhat what Dennett calls a deepity, which is something superficially true but false in the way it is intended. The superficial truth of it smuggles in the bullshit. Like "love is just a word". Yes, it is superficially true, but it is meant to say that love is not real, which false because human emotions actually occur in the mind and are perceived and so are real in some way (just not the way a rock in your hand is real).

@fireandsugar2625

3 күн бұрын

It isn't work and it is bad. Getting paid to then get r worded isn't a job. That's slavery. Paying to have access to someones body is not consensual.

@UV0023

3 күн бұрын

@@fireandsugar2625 you are talking specifically about when it's not consensual, well that goes for all jobs if it's not consensual it's slavery But just like other jobs, when it's consensual it's a job

I worked in the nightlife when i was younger, mainly on doors... the amount of pimping/forced pimping is massive, the legalization made the state the biggest pimp and reduced the revenue even further for the girls, most of them had mental issues and drug habits to cope with it... That said i also had friends running escort agencies (girls) and they were quite fine with it, but they could be more selective then the ones in the walkin/drive by...

@apebass2215

Ай бұрын

Would you trust the opinion of a woman who had obvious mental health issues and problems with drug addiction?

@GreatSageSunWukong

Ай бұрын

Sex trafficking is the biggest form of slavery in the world

@MesmerBaas

Ай бұрын

How is pimping/forced pimping massive under legalization? The state reduces revenue for everyone, it is called taxation. The state is the 'pimp' for all professions if you choose to characterize it that negatively.

@michaelfinger6303

Ай бұрын

@@MesmerBaas The legalization works for the brothels in many countries meaning pimps now no longer control the girls but the rooms where they are allowed to provide the service... Their money is now legal and the girls have to do as they say or no room

@GreatSageSunWukong

Ай бұрын

@@MesmerBaas the state doesn't force bodily violation on everyone

Ash Sarkar, 'literally a communist ' and a little rich girl who wouldn't last 5 minutes under the communist state. What's being spoken about here reminds me of the Tory in the 80s who lived on the dole for two weeks, then went back to his comfortable life saying he managed it, so should people who were stuck on benefits for months and months.

@gooderspitman8052

Ай бұрын

The Tory in question was Matthew Paris, and I remember watching the documentary at the time and thinking what utter bs.

@urhunn7778

Ай бұрын

I literally pray those Western Marxist idiots do get their Communism for the rest of their lives without the chance to escape. They always imagine their life will improve, and it's the wealth of others that will be taken away and - as they secretly hope - will be given to them. It does not occur to them that they themselves can be described as "haves" as opposed to the "have nots". They have things they would rather own than share, and those things will be taken away, too. In Communism everybody is fucked. I grew up in a Communist country, and it doesn't work the way they imagine.

@Eric-kn4yn

12 күн бұрын

​​@@gooderspitman8052 stuck on benefits years and years.

John Oliver should see this because he advocates for someone’s daughter, granddaughter, niece, sister…selling their bodies for a quick dollar.

@fluffdumpling8515

Ай бұрын

What? Please explain this statement.

@harshoperator416

Ай бұрын

@@fluffdumpling8515 one of his episodes, he tried to validate the sex work trade. Google it.

@ErnestPiffel

Ай бұрын

Perhaps he was being ironic?

@harshoperator416

Ай бұрын

@@ErnestPiffel no, he did an entire segment and was serious.

@TheMilhouseExperience

25 күн бұрын

You really think a Colbert and Stewart trained underling isn’t as leftist as they are? He’s just as bad and has contributed his share of leftist drivel into society.

There is a big difference between forced sex trade due to trafficking and whatever other reason a person can get caught up in it and a person actually choosing to do sex work. You can't compare the two to each other. I don't think anyone thinks forced sex work is acceptable.

@Mortablunt

Ай бұрын

Yes, but commercial rape is the strawman argument man haters make to push their nonsense bigotry.

@Ericwolf520

25 күн бұрын

Agreed

@imagomagus

17 күн бұрын

Nobody actually chooses sex work. If you talk to sex workers, you will learn most of them, if not all, come from very difficult family backgrounds and ended up as sex workers for very desperate reasons, and/or very young. If you can't dream as a child about doing this job when you grow up, it's not a job.

@gemcrim5904

17 күн бұрын

@@imagomagusI doubt anyone dreams of working at Walmart or McDonald's or a gas station or the back of a garbage truck or a grocery store or a drywaller or a dish washer or a mine sweeper or someone that does drug trials or grave digger... Could really go on forever here. They made a choice. The best anyone can hope for is to be able to choose. Is it a job I would choose? No. Would I tell my kids to choose it? No, but I wouldn't tell them to choose any of those others either. If the job didn't exist then they simply wouldn't have a job. They are choosing it over the other options out there. If they made a mistake, they can quit and go do something else. Every job has a pay vs ick factor and the amount of ick someone is willing to put up with for 'x' amount of pay is up to them. I don't see how it is any different than any other job in this way.

@imagomagus

17 күн бұрын

@@gemcrim5904 You need to listen to the whole interview. It's not a job, period. It's abuse as a result of previous abuse.

I recognize movements are complex and have virtues and vices attached to them, but I thought the virtuous aspect of the #MeToo movement was the cultural acknowledgement that *some* aspects of human life should never be bartered for economic survival. A woman (or man) should never feel compelled, pressured, bullied, etc. to exchange or submit to sexual advances in order to advance or sustain their career. That sexual interactions aren’t the same as filling out expense forms or flipping burgers. Yet some of the same women who agree wholeheartedly to the #MeToo movement’s (appropriate) piety regarding the inappropriateness of sexual transactionism in the workplace seem fundamentally oblivious to how “sex work is real work” outright contradicts that very virtue! If “sex work is real work,” why can’t executives demand sexual favors be on the job description? “You must have 5 years experience as an Administrative Assistant, a bachelor’s degree, type 70 wpm, and perform X number of sexual favors per week.” If it’s perfectly equal legitimate work, a perfectly acceptable means of trade, then why can’t landlords require sexual favors in exchange or as substitute for rent? *If* you’re going to elevate “sex work” as a perfectly acceptable means of commodity exchange, you can’t remain consistent while recoiling at the idea that the executive should have every right to insist upon sexual favors for job advancement-or excuse me, not favors, but “sexual task performance” since it’s “real work.” Why can’t it worm its way in to the rest of corporate society and open capitalism? Why can’t it be on job postings, and rent agreements, and be factored into legitimate career advancement for work of all kind? If it’s not obvious, I am ardently against this ofcourse, but I am trying to point out you can’t in good faith make the argument that sex work is a meaningless commodity that’s no more or less significant than any other exchange of goods and services WHILE ALSO maintaining that pressure or incentivizing sexual favors in exchange for job security is morally condemnable, predatory, and worthy of criminal action (which, let it be known, it is indeed all of those things). You can’t support #sexworkisrealwork and support #metoo with any genuine consistency. In other words, if the sex work apologists are really right, then maybe we were too hard on Harvey Weinstein. You may say to yourself “it’s perfectly fine so long as sex work stays in its lane and isn’t allowed to be required for ‘normal’ jobs that are unrelated.” But why? It’s “real work” isn’t it? Do you really think you can open the floodgates and maintain total control over what the flood washes over? You might say, actually it’s fine that sexual favors be included in job descriptions-you can always not take the job! What then it the market becomes saturated with sexual expectations, leaving desperate women (and men) once again feeling pressured beyond their consent and comfort to “submit” to sexual exploitation in order to survive? Is that really what liberation looks like? Sex is not a transaction. Sex work is not real work. It should never be considered the equivalent of any other “job.” Sex should never be commodified; people should never be bought or sold. Sex should always, always, always be perceived as a privilege to be earned through mutual trust, respect, care, and attachment-never as a product to be bought. The #metoo movement was right in this-some things should never have to be bought or sold in order to survive. Some things should always remain sacred.

@ramudon2428

Ай бұрын

Agreed.

@radicalcartoons2766

Ай бұрын

You missed out: if sex work is real work, it must be perfectly ok to take your little girl in with you, on "take your daughter to work day".

@megsley

Ай бұрын

well said!!

@urhunn7778

Ай бұрын

@@radicalcartoons2766 Your comment immediately reminded me to The Onion's "Army Holds Annual Bring Your Daughter To War Day" comedy skit.

@vegbeg9170

18 күн бұрын

Unfortunately I think the chants of "BELIEVE ALL WOMEN" etc. kind of drowned out/negated any good messaging.

And dont forget sexualisation in children is that normalising children for this ?

@phattjohnson

Ай бұрын

What? Fuck no. Prozzies always been for the blokes, and maybe the apprentice who looks 18.

@elaine8955

Ай бұрын

Look it up in schools children of 6 and above are being taught sexualisation at school . One girl went home and asked her dad if he masturbated . Now tell me why the hell are they teaching our children that and much more???

@urhunn7778

Ай бұрын

Of course. Even in case of the previous generation where hook up culture was introduced, they were groomed for a lifestyle that only prostitutes and gays lived in the generations before them.

@MesmerBaas

Ай бұрын

There is no link between legalized prostitution and sexualisation in children. In countries where prostitution is legal there is always a minimum age requirement of 18, and sometimes even 21. Child prostitution only happens in illegal prostitution.

@jackMeought-fr8vl

Ай бұрын

We currently have girls waiting until they turn 18 to create an only fans. It will go younger, eventually the culture will change and then the law will change. Don't believe the people who say it'll be 18+ forever, they're all about breaking down boundaries.

You know what makes prostitution possible? Existence of any currency.

Thank you for saying this there's no way sex work does not take it's toll. I was never a prostitute but worked in strip clubs on and off for years and that was bad enough. Not that every man who came in was a bastard by any means, but the general dynamic was a power struggle between the economic power of the men and the erotic power of the women. Most of the time the odds were stacked against the women, having too many girls on the floor for every one to make enough money, charging girls an exorbitant "house fee" every time they come in to work, management always taking the customer's side etc. The sex industry is not set up to empower women it's set up up to empower men over women in a sexual context. It's not sex positive, it perpetuates the same negative attitudes around woman's sexuality and sex in general that have been rife since the bible and economic coersion IS a form of duress. I have several friends who worked as sex workers back in the day and most of them are damaged with a couple of exceptions. I feel I sustained a certain amount of damage myself, at the end of the day sex work is a sad lonely place to be for everyone involved at best, and at worst it's abusive.

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@foxlake6750

Ай бұрын

They get messed up as well.

@phattjohnson

Ай бұрын

@@foxlake6750 Stats? Paper? Research? Article? I'd argue anyone who CREATES an OnlyFans account is already rather unhinged.

If sex work is work, what was #metoo about? If sex work is work, what’s wrong with Harvey Weinstein?

@joni5115

Ай бұрын

He was actually forcing women to have sex. Sex workers do it to earn a living.

@ChimeraArchive

Ай бұрын

"Well you see, blah blah justification blah blah abuse blah blah position of authority blah blah patriarchal norms blah blah sexual freedom blah blah male gaze blah blah cultural history blah blah radical liberation blah blah free love blah blah puritanical control blah blah your a bigot. So there." What's kinda sad is the actresses might have gotten a better outcome than the prostitutes. Both Weinstein's victims and the prostitutes are probably not the best off after what happened to them, but the Weinstein victims could sue at least.

@markshepperson3603

Ай бұрын

Sex work is X amount of cash for X sex acts agreed. Rape includes Force, threat and fraud.

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

So if you’re doing sex work then you should get weinsteined? Ever heard of consent….?

@scott8448

Ай бұрын

Being physically raped is different from getting paid to have consensual sex. How fucking stupid are you cunt?

The buyer is prosecuted like a criminal and the seller can't be a criminal under any circumstances. I fail to see how any of this system is lenient toward the men buying.

@Mortablunt

Ай бұрын

Feminist can’t stand the idea of anything that could make a man happy.

@jamesnope8666

23 күн бұрын

It's not. While sex work is not anything I'd like my daughter or sister to do, that doesn't mean that none anywhere have willingly engaged in this. These people simply refuse to admit that and contort themselves to find anyway they can to blame a man somewhere

@vegbeg9170

18 күн бұрын

She's still a feminist, you can't expect her to be entirely reasonable.

@IrisDel-qo8xi

16 күн бұрын

Without demand there is no supply

@vegbeg9170

16 күн бұрын

@@IrisDel-qo8xi What does that have to do with anything?

Consent is not a commodity

If sex work is real work, then why can't I put it in the requirements for a corporate position? Why can't I write it into the work contract that my would be secretary, on top handling files, also has to handle "MY file"? You know why.

@wiLLmo12235

Ай бұрын

Unreasonable stigma?

@MesmerBaas

Ай бұрын

This is not a good argument gr33d. If you apply to a Hollywood job with a background of being a gun KZreadr or aid of Dick Cheney you wouldn't get in either. That being a sex worker impacts your further career is consequence of stigma.

@Jaco059

Ай бұрын

@@wiLLmo12235reasonable stigmas invented to not destroy your society

@kingnull2697

Ай бұрын

@@MesmerBaas Not if it's legal & a requirement to be Weinstein's assistant.

Moral corruption at many levels is par for the course in learning institutions now as the deviants have control.

Do individual women have a right to choose what to do with their bodies or not?

So many tell feminists to go for marriage rather than hookup culture. Bindul has played a massive part in trashing marriage.

@hallowakers3d2y

Ай бұрын

To be fair she only hates heterosexual marriage.

Not a feminist. I spent 8 years as an exotic dancer. Survived off the money I made. Definitely not a tourist. I loved the work I did. I absolutely loved it. But I also was very much aware of the fact that I was an exception to the rule. Dancing gave me unprecedented freedom. Dancing improved my health in ways I never would have dreamed possible. Dancing kept me young and beautiful for many years. Dancing enabled me to find a good husband and start a family. Dancing made my life so much more beautiful than it would have been otherwise. But my female peers? For most of them, dancing degraded their sense of self esteem. Dancing fueled their drug habits. Dancing exposed them to toxic men and abusive relationships. Some of them were preyed upon by pimps. Where dancing rejuvenated me, it aged them. I will forever value the doors that were opened for me in my life because of exotic dancing. But I understand that it wasn’t a positive experience for most of the women who tried it. I had to fight so hard to become a dancer because multiple people tried to limit my freedom “for my own good”. I want a world where people like me can have the freedom to make those controversial life-changing decisions. It saved my life. But I also want there to be a clear awareness that working in a “sex” industry is heavily stigmatizing and usually a negative experience for all but a very few unique personalities. And that’s just dancing. That’s not even prostitution, which is many layers more of risks and harm.

@VigilanteWilliamson

14 күн бұрын

The people who tried to "limit your freedom 'for your own good'" were ultimately well meaning and by your admission of rarity of experience ultimately correct were they not? Your perspective is interesting because for you, dancing was a positive experience, but you recognize it wasn't for most girls. That at least means its 'good' or at least 'fair' to discourage women from that said lifestyle even if a few women will enjoy it because the average dancer will be traumatized.

@oakleavesandonions771

14 күн бұрын

@@VigilanteWilliamson My boyfriend at the time arranged for his friend to r*** me in order to show me that I “didn’t have self-control around men” and therefore shouldn’t become a stripper. For him “for your own good” meant “I’m afraid I’ll lose control over you if you get any kind of freedom for yourself.” And for all the other well-meaning idiots “for your own good” meant “I am thoroughly oblivious to your circumstances. I have no idea the kind of hell you’re trying to escape. But I’m going to impose my ideas about what’s best for you onto your life and do my best to make your choices for you because I think I know better than you- even if I really don’t know anything about you.” Forgive me if I’m still annoyed at them even after nearly 2 decades. They made an already difficult journey that much harder.

@fireandsugar2625

3 күн бұрын

You sound like you're desperately trying to convince yourself that you enjoyed degrading yourself for the benefit of disgusting men.

People who have never been working in the field will never know ... that is true for any field of work !. Results of academics - PHD s do enormous harm to any field of work ... they are armchair thinkers who have no idea what the real world is like !!! . The repercussions of their false findings are catastrophic !.

It makes me laugh when people talk about "safety". As in safety from an undesired pregnancy or safe from an STD (which you will never ever be if you are a sex worker) , when I think about my own safety, I think of safety from rape, safety from unwanted sexual intercourse. In what way are prostitutes EVER safe? What they are doing is the most degrading and dehumanising thing anyone can be asked to do, their only hope is to come out alive and unscratched. In what way can we define that as a job? Go Julie, thanks for exposing women exploitation for what it is.

These type of people don't care one bit about the horrible human trafficking for maid and manual labor work. It's just the "sex" part, not the trafficking or working conditions, that bothers them.

@07samevie

Ай бұрын

Many of the women who are against trafficking are against only sex trafficking. These same women have no problem with domestic help or nannies that are obtained by human trafficking or the multitude of underage girls who are trafficked from the countryside to the cities to make handbags for women in the first world. It's ok as long as it is done for women!

@KallusGarnet

14 күн бұрын

Bingo 😂😂😂 all females are obsessed with the sex market, constantly trying to monopolize it and control it, this is why I can't take them too seriously on these topics

"My body, my choice"!

Exploitation is exploitation. It doesn't matter what words you use to describe it.

@Galvvy

Ай бұрын

Exactly, word games are for those who can't speak the truth.

@benskinner1713

Ай бұрын

Have you considered its the female sex worker "exploiting" the male customer in a lot of cases?

@doomdecepticon933

Ай бұрын

​@@benskinner1713 have you considered the ramifications of how priviliged you are to spout such bullshit?

Excellent segment. You are great interviewers because you allow the guests to speak and never interrupt them.

And rent a womb. Yeh, sure, risk your life carrying a pregnancy, delivering a baby. Then there's the long term health risks of (multiple) pregnancies/ hormone treatments supplying the gay couple market, and having your own. Then there's the long term psychological risks. Sure thing, put two piles of $100,000 on the table in front of me One involves a surrogate pregnancy, the other, no strings attached. Now, that'd be a free choice. Wonder which one would get chosen ... hmm

Julie's brand of toxic feminism has led us to where we are in today's feminism. She was one of the instigators of the man hating brigade of activists that labelled anyone with an opposing view misogyny. Much like Germain Greer, they have notably softened their language through life experience, but they now get to look in horror as the Frankensteins monster they created run amok on their own brand of feminism. Ironically, this has now seen them turn to men as allies rather than the enemy, which is how it should be. So maybe it's not all bad after all.

@mrwu2

Ай бұрын

At long last a comment which is actually the truth 🎉. It's amazing how quickly people seem to have forgotten the hatred of modern feminism. All because the trans nonsense has temporarily overshadowed it However I disagree that they see men as allies. They're just using us as the useful idiots we are to get them back on the top spot of the victimhood hunger games league table. As they will need us again when the religious and open border policies they've (women) been appeasing in the name of 'tolerance' start to intrude on their utopian feminist view

@TheSpoovy

Ай бұрын

Absolutely this. The only reason people like Bindel can get away with it is by being interviewed by people too young and/or ignorant to recall her part in creating this monster.

@JezaLoki

Ай бұрын

Can hear her misandry shine through via her words choice. Example, she could have said “take a pe**s in the mouth” but because she hates men she said “take an unwashed d**k ..” It seems she thinks men are too hopeless to even clean themselves.

@ratgrl81

Ай бұрын

Exactly. They're just upset that it bit them in the butt. The TERF brigade still spews anti male rhetoric. The whining about how it's the "Patriarchy's" fault the trans movement stomps on women, in a good example of that.

@robertboyle2573

21 күн бұрын

Bindel was promoting sex work a few years ago.

While I think it’s appalling that prostitution is being normalized as just another kind of job, I don’t agree with Bindel that the women involved are completely absolved of any responsibility, and that a lot of them have no choice other than prostitution. In America or Western Europe, of course most young women have a choice. Just get a waitress job or whatever; the restaurant industry for example is crying out for floor staff. I don’t think that if someone goes into prostitution they should be absolved of any responsibility for their decisions. Of course they had a choice but the money is way better in sex work than bar work etc. That’s the real reason I suspect for a lot of modern sex work, the money is really tempting and thanks to malevolent academics and onlyfans the stigma around it has been sanitized. But young women are adults, and in the western world unless you’re a drug addict or have a pimp (ie zero female students) then there is no excuse for going into sec work, you had a choice, and you’ve exploited yourself.

@harnessriscallous7466

Ай бұрын

Y'all stigmatize yourselves.

@Mortablunt

Ай бұрын

Working at most minimum wage for Tips versus working for maybe two hours a night and making a weeks waitress pay every single day.

@doctorlolchicken7478

26 күн бұрын

I think you’re not getting it. These women are in serious financial situations where they have families to feed or debts to pay. A waitress job won’t cover it. Now, it’s true that the reason they are in that situation may be largely their fault - teenage pregnancy, drugs, poor life choices - but it’s rarely that they “just want more money for less work”. That might explain the OnlyFans types and maybe some higher class escorts, but it’s not these girls being pimped out to brothels. Did you miss the part where she said they are not allowed out without a pimp escort? Ask yourself why that is.

@OLDPEDOJOE

17 күн бұрын

@@Mortablunt It's definitely not two hours a night, it's more like all night, I was casually seeing a girl who was escorting and she was "on call" all night, sometimes during the day she would get hit up. She wouldn't sleep until about 5 or 6 am and even then she was still getting calls while she was sleeping, it's a full time "job".

@Mortablunt

17 күн бұрын

@@OLDPEDOJOE Yeah, but she isn't taking 48 dicks a day conveyor belt style as top claimed.

What she says is true but history teaches us that the sex trade will never go away.

I have never and would never use a prostitute because it feels like exploiting another human being, but that's just my opinion. I don't feel I have the right to tell others what they must do. Equally, I don't like the idea of abortions, but it's not for me to tell others what they should do with their bodies.

That PhD thesis just serves to prove that public colleges and universities mustn't offer degrees in humanities.

To quote the German comedian and actor Hape Kerkeling (in character as a Dutch marriage counsellor): „You‘ve got to love and support your partner. Love is work, work, work! After all, it’s called b***job and not b***holiday.“

Prostitution is a contemporary form of slavery. 9orn is a cheaper DIY version of decaf prostitution. OF is the Uber of 9orn.

@gorequillnachovidal

Ай бұрын

you don't know what words mean do you?

@nicolasandresmartinez-cond126

Ай бұрын

@@gorequillnachovidal I do know. Why do you ask?

@gorequillnachovidal

Ай бұрын

@@nicolasandresmartinez-cond126 because prostitution and slavery have been around forever and they are not the same thing or even close. stop trivializing chattel slavery with your shit.

@wiLLmo12235

Ай бұрын

If they willingly choose to be prostitutes, it's not slavery. Only if they're forced against their will.

@MesmerBaas

Ай бұрын

Prostitution is not slavery, as individuals can choose to work as a prostitute or not. When it becomes forced, it becomes sex trafficking. Just as democrats like to conflate legal and illegal immigration for their arguments, conservatives like to conflate sex work and sex trafficking for their argument.

PHD students who do a short stint in the sex trade don't know anything about it. You know who does? A 63yr old lesbian who has zero experience in it. The irony of her saying other women aren't qualified to speak on it is completely lost on her.

Teaching women that obscene acts are better for their mental health - than genuine accomplishment is absurd. Women could have an actual supportive & loving relationship, or a job with a union. Selling your body & dignity for money and fleeting male approval - is an utter sadness and failure of society. Feminism is empowering women. Encouraging them to debase themselves is not empowering them. This is why you must encourage the intellect of young girls. Youth & male approval & beauty are fleeting: skillsets and dignity last forever.

Western women have choices.

Julie Bindel is a Force of Nature ❤

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

Force of malicious and wilful ignorance.

@manusha1349

Ай бұрын

@joanna9215 why, you think blow jobs are real jobs? 🤣

@daftwod

Ай бұрын

Wind

@Mortablunt

Ай бұрын

A break of wind, and a blob of gravity

While I'm not convinced sex work should be promoted as a good job opportunity, I do believe that in order to own anything, a person must first own themselves. And that includes selling yourself. The only role of government in such a scenario is to make sure the job is fully consensual and safely conducted.

"Sex work" is the only field I can think of where the more experience you have, the less valuable you are.

Can we pls have this kind of logic back with young women?

Either women who say they love it are lying about their lived experiences, or else they need to find out from Julie Bindel how they really feel.

Western Civilization is sick.

I do support decriminalizing sex work, but only so women can report abusers and pimps.

The problem is morals are now decided by politicians.

i grew up in Nevada and always thought that was crazy

Not to mention the effect it has on the client's family - he can no longer communicate honestly with their wife. And if the wife finds out, it's even worse; how many have fallen into depression & started drinking because of it!

@joanna9215

Ай бұрын

Are you now blaming hookers for your husbands inability to communicate? Him visiting her is a symptom and not a cause.

@shrikeofterven6006

Ай бұрын

Nah, a john chooses to be a john. Being unhappy in a marriage does not excuse affairs or using prostituted women. @@joanna9215

@ravanpee1325

Ай бұрын

How many women cheat or have children from other dudes...so we also need to introduce mandatory paternity test in every hospital by law

@Mortablunt

Ай бұрын

Well, if they were doing their duties, then wouldn’t need whores!

@GnomiousBo

24 күн бұрын

I mean that is his fault though. If his life falls apart because of his choices that is no one’s fault but his own

I met a "man" years ago that held the stance that sex work was legitimate and was not harmful. I asked him to imagine if his mother, wife, or daughter were prostitutes, if he would hold the same stance. He doubled down. I was blown away.

The simple fact is that prostitution may be the best option as woman has to earn her bread and take care of her needs. If she chooses such work, she should be entitled to perform it. If she is assaulted, she is entitled to file a complaint with the police. By contrast, the privileged woman wants a man to care for her, but he must earn $100K/month, have a fancy car and home, and give her a credit card to use. Should tat be considered prostitution as well?

thank you for a fantastic program!