Why Rocket League needs to change their RLCS events
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Rocket League just had it's best major ever, and nobody was allowed to see it. Why won't epic games let us watch more RLCS in person?
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"ain't no way, KC is clapping everyone" That aged like fine milk. GG
@trawlrz37
3 ай бұрын
okay..
Imagine being a player that has gone to multiple lans and you still have zero crowd experience because you never get to play in front of them.
i find it amusing that psyonix partnered with epic for a higher budget but epic's decisions are so bad that they now have to cut the budget below what it originally was.
@KrisPBaconnn
3 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure psyonix makes the decisions, just within the scope of Epic’s policies and business practices. Psyonix is the one to blame. Epic merely made an acquisition.
@Jrb1812
3 ай бұрын
@@KrisPBaconnntheres like no one from psyonix left. A majority of them are gone so its pretty much just up to epic to improve the game (which doesnt look like its happening anytime soon)
@HockeyDude115
3 ай бұрын
the game doesnt make enough money. its a free game now and has been for years. maybe makes a million dollars. how do you pay a large staff a livable wage and pay for venues plus travel. maybe even 2 million. just doesnt make enough money. rizzo is right. costs are going up.. blame the economy. especially in canada
@Bounsyknight
3 ай бұрын
this was the first event blast had a go. so it was more of a tryout.
@midnightsunsets
3 ай бұрын
@HockeyDude115 the game makes a lot more than that. What's your source? No disrespect, but your ass?
My first LAN event. Ordered tickets to London right when I got back. IT WAS LIT!!
@GucciMilk
3 ай бұрын
i hope your next lan experience sucks! 😠
Not only did they announce the major 1 location 1 month prior, it also happened to be IN THE MOST EXPENSIVE CITY IN EUROPE
Major was in fact fire
@enyraries
3 ай бұрын
We went from the boring defense-counterrattack meta to the era of Zen. RL has been unbelievably fun to watch lately.
@Hydro-_-
3 ай бұрын
@@enyraries Zen made everyone realise the mechanics are the meta and every single pro is now extremely mechanical making the games crazy fun to watch.
@Siprut93-pk5zr
3 ай бұрын
Say deadass
@ElijiahCater-xg9dq
3 ай бұрын
@@Hydro-_-now every other team is proving that you still need game sense and vitality are getting whooped
@Hydro-_-
3 ай бұрын
@@ElijiahCater-xg9dq you need teamwork and there's a difference when watching vit go for solo plays vs geng passing
"KC is slapping everyone" DOES HE KNOW???
Friday shouldve been in person 100% So sad so few teams got to play with a crowd. Other than that, great event. Hope RLCS sees a revival
I'm still so sad g2 lost the finals 😭
@Catorlyt
3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they made it to the finals
@edgeribble
3 ай бұрын
g2 didn't deserve finals bds didn't show up they take that 6 days of the week
@xerneis743
3 ай бұрын
same, really cheered for NA upset, but at least KC got booted
@NLambo88
3 ай бұрын
Yeah g2 is known to do that
@LTK_Andromeda
3 ай бұрын
@@edgeribblecope more
This was my first time watching a major live like on twitch and such and it was so lit
I was lucky enough to go to LANdon 2 years ago and even thought it was only 2 crowd days we had like 5 series a day to the point where we didn’t even have time to go bathroom in between cos we might miss a match
this is common in CS to a degree only playoffs are in an arena open to crowd (QFs-> GFs)
@m1lkbags
9 күн бұрын
Yeah thats what I was thinking. I've watched cs since 2007 and this format just seems so normal to me. I like that you have to make top8 to get the crowd. Makes the crowd more special. to be fair though in cs playoffs are usually 4 days. QF + QF QF + QF SF + SF showmatch + GF
Other sports aren’t like this, Atleast in the car world. Drift events, drag racing, etc. are typically always open to spectators during practice, qualifying, and the actual event.
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The problem is that the Swiss stage is double, simultaneous matches, so they have to set up two stages with 4 teams and then Friday night they have to change it for the quarterfinals. IT might be that the venue was pretty small too.
just add limited seating for the first 2 days at a reasonable price to big fans and start with family and friends, or VIP tickets where you can do something cool like meet teams or play a 1v1 against a pro. I plan to go to worlds (first event I attend), so I'm not sure how thing currently work but just need to be creative about it.
Hopefully the only match played in front of a crowd at Worlds will be the Grand Finals. Screw it, make it best of 3, that should save Epic some cash
That tweet from papa knaps hits extra hard in hindsight knowing OG would've played 2 series in front of crowd instead of none
@jamespadilla7070
3 ай бұрын
Link?
@tylerkeen5224
3 ай бұрын
@@jamespadilla7070 6:53
we want atleast 1 RL gameplay vid per month ! :D
they let this guy stream from prison
@jiraiya2000
3 ай бұрын
Literally the first thing I thought😂 he's even got his orange jumpsuit
This was such a wild event. I’m still shook that Lum almost beat Vitality
KC did not slap everyone there... what an amazing weekend
Gentle... *MATES*
Bro lemonkiwi was casting for like 5 hours straight lmao they’re definitely low on staff
Was a fantastic major.
For some reason I have this weird impression that Rocket League set to "fade out". They're still doing some events to not straight up abandon it, but they aren't doing anything to make the game more popular or better as well. There has only been very unfortunate decisions over the last few years and it's a sad thing to witness, because Rocket League really is the best eSport game you could have.
@IonicThree
3 ай бұрын
I agree. I think they bought RL and Psyonix to push Fortnite, which is why Rocket Racing was created. I love RL and watching it die, sucks!
I’m guessing that there was simultaneous matches in swiss could have something to do with it.
Epic probably saved some money by assigning the summer intern responsible for new content for the esports marketing, and of course they will pass the savings onto us, the loyal gamers.
What was the point in laying of so many casters when they could do with more 💀
I can feel the salt coming from the wounds since they didn't re sign Rizzo for the streams
I think it should be season play like NFL but best of 3 every time you play then rlcs would be like top 10, also split reigions up for best of NA or EU then worlds would be top 10 teams in the world
I had my family who had no clue what RL was chanting "USA!" for the Grand Finals, was epic, sad they lost
@faithful2b1
3 ай бұрын
Bro same!! I watched the major with me parents for the first time and my dad was cheating usa to! lol
i miss when rizzos yt wasn’t just pulled streams😔
Hmmm.. isn’t the easiest solution to this just having day 1 and 2 being elimination rounds so only 1 game happens at once I mean longer event but also happier community
rizzo havent all majors only had crowds for top 8 matchups?
Majors always only had crowd for day 3 and 4
Right, it needs to be a better "event" -- you are right on Rizzo!
@rich4444hrsm
3 ай бұрын
I think you are over thinking this... why can't they make money on the event? They can't get enough people to go watch, it isn't important enough to enough people. They could raise ticket prices to be CRAZY... Like, think of big music groups. They would take as many sold out dates as they can get, because they MAKE money on the events. If they are cutting costs, it is because the entire thing is a loss leader. Not sure how to fix it.... but you need to first really define the problem. If this event was a money maker, they wouldn't be doing it so poorly.
"nobody"
That room looks like a prison one
imagine flying across the world from oce and you cant see a single oce game...
I was scratching my head why it was on Easter Sunday. Not because of a religious thing but if you wanted to profit why not do it on a more open weekend? They should do the other majors on July 4th and Thanksgiving.
The part about parents traveling across the world to see their kid play only to have them miss top 8 and not even get to see them play is so damning. Epic are so far removed from reality at this point. Or whoever is making the esports decisions, idc. The only people who would make that decision and not see the issues with it are the suits who have no idea what real life is like. Just imagine this for any sport, like your high school baseball team or something makes the national championship but they play in a secluded field with no viewers for the first few elimination rounds. What sort of idiot thinks this is a valid thing to do.
Ive mentioned it everywhere and Nobody complained lol. Glad to see someone with the same hate about psyonix
You mean… you didn’t watch it😂
They should do it like fort worth. I cry
Radosinho underrated
These elim day complaints have been happening since RLCS X its the same story they don't care what their fans think. It's so dumb because it alienates fans of teams that aren't top 8 consistently. Why would I go to the major to see my underdog team when they'll likely be elimd before I get in the venue. The underdog story's are what makes RL great. It just keeps fans from getting nearly as invested in teams if they're not top 2 or 3 in the region and that's minimizing the potential growth of the ESPORT. Lawler has been talking about this forever
Not that hot take: more people would be willing to spend money to go if they could watch the swiss also. Why pay money to not know for sure that you’ll get to see your team play? I’d LOVE to go to a LAN, but there’s no chance I’d ever pay to fly somewhere with the uncertainty that it currently requires. If it’s about money, you’d make more money by making it a more enticing proposition by having crowds for the whole event. All 16 teams.
Honestly though, I miss Swiss. Because that made sure that the teams that were the best would meet each other in finals.
@jokabox93
3 ай бұрын
what do you mean? there was swiss this major as well as all the regionals. And also the best 8 teams made it through just as everyone expected
I feel like if gen g won against gentlemates, we would’ve had the KC vs G2 finals everyone anticipated
bro the title just changed ..
Why is bro in a jailcell??
Dying Game sadly (That I have thousands of hours in lol) and other better Esports events were / are happening at the same time.
This dudes room looks like a prison cell and I actually dig it
Nah playoffs all on one day isn't it. Takes all the tension out of it for both crowd and players. Just becomes a long exausting day. All they needed to do was let the crowd in on friday (swiss round 4-5).
While I agree with Rizzo on most points, he does seem a bit bitter 😂
Personally this was the best major I ever watched I think there should be more positives about it
7 minutes ago, weirdly early for me to see a youtube video.
Gen g my favourite team
I've spent more time watching you rant about it than I've spent watching RLCS the past year. The game sucks right now.
Has limitless ever played in front of a crowd?
@mohyou9551
3 ай бұрын
There was a crowd for worlds 21-22 wildcard where SSA played
@KxnqUltra
3 ай бұрын
@@mohyou9551 ahh ok thanks
@KxnqUltra
3 ай бұрын
So wildcard was pretty much the only chance for teams to play in front of a crowd and now that’s gone
@mohyou9551
3 ай бұрын
@@KxnqUltra yeah, it sucks. I really liked wildcard cause it allowed for competitive matches for people who arent fans of strong teams
I don’t know why teams like Jeff getting upset about taking one team from NA and EU, like I’m sorry but dude’s team is competing in the hardest region, Williams Resolve wasn’t going to make top 5 or even top 8 in EU. Williams Resolve made top 12 in Regional 1 and didn’t even make it to Regional 2 or 3.
gentlemates best team?
Wouldn’t they just make more money letting people in on Friday?
@liquidmoo619
3 ай бұрын
I think people buy tickets for the whole event so they would still make the same money from fans and have to take care of them extra days
People who say “NA defence” and “Eu defence” don’t know ball
Unless something changes fast, we're in the end times boys
rocket league in the sphere is end goal is it not?
G2 were lucky to dodge KC the entire event.
Yeah, didn't watch it, Easter weekend was busy for me.
@liquidmoo619
3 ай бұрын
Personally I think you missed out a lot of negative stuff about it but I watched every day and it was the best major I ever watched and many people agree
Bro is hitting the age were he now realizes everything sucks because of stupid reason or just "money issues" from a billion dollar corporation that all the CEOs live in multi million dollar homes with 50k bonuses every year and we lose have to lose and give up things. THANKS EPIC
This Major wasn't much different from previous ones. When was the last time they let the crowd in for the early stages of the event? And are we forgetting championship Sunday at 2022 Worlds when they did the full top 8, and how everyone bitched that it was too long? Do we want crowds for every day when the days are going to be 9 hours long? The crowd isn't going to make it, they'll be dead by day 2. If they really want a crowd for Swiss, then they need to run an entertainment complex with 2 or 3 rooms, kind of like a music festival or a convention. You go to the room that's hosting the teams you want to watch, but you'll be missing what's going on in the other rooms because it's all happening at the same time. It would get the 9-16 teams in front of a crowd, but you know there are going to be games where no one is in the room because it's 2 low seeded teams. I don't know if Epic, Psyonix, and Blast see the value in having 18 computers, on 3 different stages that all need admins and tech support and security and all of that. I understand the frustration of not being able to see half of the teams, but what choice do they really have that satisfies the hosts financially, as well as the spectators?
@kasukidw4036
3 ай бұрын
Agree. Back in the day I got dead tired by watching rlcs. There is no reason to have an insane amount of games in front of people. Crazy to see that people don't see the wider picture instead of: "If u open doors on friday (on a different location than the weekend) then u will make more money!!! :DD and if u dont then dying game and epic bad"
@kolanut
3 ай бұрын
Worlds 2022 was hype tho. The marathon makes it more exciting, 3 series in a day is lame
@MichaelSheaAudio
3 ай бұрын
@@kolanut 7 best of 7's is not hype, I do not wish to relive that day. Aside from G2 losing in another grand final, I liked the top 8 of this event because it didn't consume my entire day. The games were great and it didn't burn me out.
@svensson12345678
3 ай бұрын
I agree. Round 3,4 and 5 of the swiss would be 17 matches, how would that even be possible to show to the crowd? Rizzo's take is pretty bad IMO and I think it's fine how it is now. They have made decisions way worse than this. Worlds 2022 was a marathon of a watch which ended with a very lame grand finals. I'll take this format over what they did back then any day.
What prison are you in?
They need to fire tbates and bring back jorby
Yeah o stopped watching rocket league - I barely even play now
What's great is when Epic finally chokes out the life of RLCS and then go "game is dead :(" and use it as an excuse to rip it all apart. Also, I still can't believe they're only going to have 16 teams at worlds. So, wouldn't be surprised if they use the same format for worlds...
If talking heads would actually consider the lens rhat Epic takes. What to do to make money? Paying a staff for security is expensive and they know the crowd will show anyways. The money leads to their shitty tournament shenanigans your whole community was pissed about.
It really does seem like we're towards the end of rocket league. Unless they really start changing things, im afraid its just going to die off :/ they dont seem to be putting any effort into the game at the moment and just letting it sit idley by while it milks as much money as possible from whats left of the community. As someone who played all the way back in 2015, it's extremely sad to see.
@gispee
3 ай бұрын
but then they randomly put up a new us central server... like dude you might wanna make sure people are actually interested in your game before investing in new equipment. I'm a business student and it baffles me how this huge company can make so many terrible business decisions and fumble easy opportunities.
@bkmcdougal
3 ай бұрын
@gispee That's true. Maybe that means they have plans for the future, but I've basically given up hope at this point, lol
@KrisPBaconnn
3 ай бұрын
Yall been saying this for years
@bkmcdougal
3 ай бұрын
@KrisPBaconnn and are we not right? The game is slowly dying, it may not fully die, I'm sure there will always be a dedicated player base until they shut the servers off. But you can't say the game is doing well or in a upward trajectory right now. I want nothing more than RL to do good, it just sucks to see it get treated this way.
Bring back lower bracket
The only game Epic Cares about is Fortnite they listen to that community. But they couldn’t give 2 F’s about Rocket League until they do something to show that they care about Rl I’ll believe there intentionally killing it.
Epic Games is doing a great job at cutting costs in order to give us viewers (and the pros) a lesser experience. ???
People saw it, the official stream just sucks ass so everyone watched watch parties or wtv the streams are called
@laurii0512
3 ай бұрын
People are so negative sometimes... I watched the whole Major with my dad on the official stream and we both had a lot of fun watching it. I feel people are just not having fun because they don't want to and instead they want something to complain about. Sure some very questionable decisions have been made both for the game and RLCS, but they haven't really made my experience with them any less fun. I still got to watch an amazing Major and the game is still about making my silly little car push a ball into the goal. I thought we all liked this game because cars playing football is fun, but maybe it's just me, idk...
@jonathanbrooks9768
3 ай бұрын
@@laurii0512 everyone likes games for different reasons, personally I agree, I like the stupidity of it and how funny the wild shit that happens in games especially when micd up, some ppl are toxic but there's a whole lot of funny mfers in the community, I just don't like a lot of the commentators so it's pointless to watch them and id rather watch people who I enjoy watching, along with thousands upon thousands of others? you talk about unnecessarily hating yet leave a wildly condescending comment, in a sense, hating lmao
I'm just a guy. But you... you are an RLCS finalist. Why don't you apply to Psyonix to run RLCS and actually make these changes? Of course, that would likely cut into time doing this but... like I said, I am JAG.
Why have 4 days of lan play and only have 2 days 😂 shittest business practice considering they are paying for security and renting the place anyway might aswell make more money and have fans there all the time
It's all their (Epic) inferior ass marketing team that doesn't even know marketing
How are people so accepting of this poor format when you get much more gameplay out of a Counterstrike or Valorant tournament? Also it was like 2k people in there. Arena looked pretty dead to me compared to the world championship or literally any counter strike event. Rocket League is dieing. People are losing interest. The arena and crowd looked like the size of a college football match.
Main reason was not enough staff to cast 14 series. I'm a Rocket League Caster myself and you don't want only like 6 ppl to share 14 series. Yes.,, it is fun to cast, but still very exhausting and at the end of the day you will be glad if you can just enjoy some matches leaned back. Also you have to keep in mind that production are humans to who needs to eat and sleep ;).
@jaydenijtsma1134
3 ай бұрын
All the matches are already getting casted
Nobody cares about this game anymore
If you’re an OCE fan you may as well not even show up to a LAN tbh 😂
spoilers i won
That is one of the small amount of things Riot does the best with leauge. Even when it comes to play-ins with minor region team. Those matches still have around 150-200 seating capacity.
Major was in fact fire