They need to change polls so you don't see the results before voting.

@blackpitch9617

5 жыл бұрын

Best idea ever...i agree...influence too much

@sylvesterpedersen171

5 жыл бұрын

So true man

@justsomeguy3028

5 жыл бұрын

Bias is a concept foreign to Jamflex.

@sasuke1212naruto

5 жыл бұрын

good Idea, we should poll it

@JavierPwns

5 жыл бұрын

I agree

Community > This skill is not "oldschool" Also Community > Camp Vorkath and Zulrah for money

@NasTyM

5 жыл бұрын

Are people who didn't want Vorkath and Zulrah in the game supposed to completely ignore them? I don't understand this logic. I'm voting no for warding but I'm going to still train it if it passes.

@shadowbart9

5 жыл бұрын

Think he's implying that vorkath and zulrah aren't really 'oldschool' and that the same people who complain about new updates like warding are the same people camping non oldskool money makers. x

@shadowbart9

5 жыл бұрын

@RUMAD

@CrazyAvidGamer

5 жыл бұрын

more like community: this skill is not old school REEE also community: uses every single runelite plugin

@sintheemptyone8108

5 жыл бұрын

That's what happens when elitists who only care about two things, wealth and testicle measuring contests, get power to vote. As bad as drastic changes have been to the game, sometimes risks are a necessity to improve games. If you don't have the balls to face whatever new content brings, then you're in the way.

"Players that dislike grinding." It's runescape, bro. Those don't exist.

@Fusdew

5 жыл бұрын

Those players don’t exist because they leave after finding out the game takes away days from your life

@roberthicks1612

4 жыл бұрын

Yea, they do. They are called pkers.

@SamHarrington29th

4 жыл бұрын

False

@Mar_13288

4 жыл бұрын

I don't really like grinding, i play only for pvm/pk'ing really.

@LoadedGunsTTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@roberthicks1612 exactly. Stupid kids with max combat stats and then barely any other skills

I can't believe we almost got sailing after all these years. Damn haters.

Artisan is actually a good idea, people do grind skills, but some people will look at it like why would i keep running doing runecrafting its so boring , but artisan kinda make u do for a reason

@Synthetics7

5 жыл бұрын

exactly it makes u do different skills in small chunks so its actually less grindy

@GGTVShorts

5 жыл бұрын

i would love for that skill to be in the game

@Schleimkeim19

5 жыл бұрын

50% of the osrs community nowadays are ironmen and they would hate the artisan skill.

@RatProphetSaber

5 жыл бұрын

and it kinda forces you to use variation with training skills

@binda33

5 жыл бұрын

For those maxed or nearly so, Artisan doesn't seem to offer anything.

sailing would have brought so many new pirate items into the game :'(

@FortHYPEZONE

5 жыл бұрын

Phat = pirate hat

@Beckwourth

5 жыл бұрын

@@FortHYPEZONE haha

@noobsandwich4598

5 жыл бұрын

They already have the hook hand and the pirate hat. What more could you need?

@FortHYPEZONE

5 жыл бұрын

Noob Sandwich a whole new skill would be nice

@noobsandwich4598

5 жыл бұрын

@@FortHYPEZONE I remember in like 2013 there was a meme going around for a "pirating" skill. It quit being funny pretty quickly...

Artisan: dead content. Warding: dead content. Sailing: a ton of content

@starshipsn9948

5 жыл бұрын

what was that skill name that was like slayer for skills like you get task go craft 40 green d hides or stuff like that

@arthurscott7326

5 жыл бұрын

@@starshipsn9948 artisan

@owen9456

3 жыл бұрын

Warding wasn't dead content what?

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

sailing is dead content too. We already have better transportation methods in the game, and you can already sail from Port Sarim anyway

i think the release of the new skill idea followed by the release of mobile was completely intended. A massive influx in the player base that would be less bias to a new skill and more welcoming of it.

@Valorince

5 жыл бұрын

I don’t think warding is a bad idea, but I don’t want it to be an easy skill necessarily.

@maxinac

5 жыл бұрын

But how many people are going to buy memberships just to vote?

@richraah9590

5 жыл бұрын

if jagex was smart they would of polled it the week mobile came out as new players are offered 1 weeks free membership

@maxinac

5 жыл бұрын

@@richraah9590 I got mobile and haven't played in a while but I'm not about to just jump in. You get the free week by selecting a tier. Looks like you commit to it and it's easier to not bother with trial + cancel and to just explore around the f2p world first.

@Andytlp

5 жыл бұрын

Remove voting ability for accounts newer than 1-2 years. So noobs cant influence the perfection that osrs is atm.

Imagine letting your game die off slowly because of no new content because some sweaty virgin maxed players don't want to train a new skill

@IgnoreMeImWrong

5 жыл бұрын

Now go ask those 'virgins' if they'd train sailing.

@slayerr4365

5 жыл бұрын

@@IgnoreMeImWrong And they would say no. All maxed players do is sit in ge and try and cyber e thots lol. They have no interest in new content or playing the game but they have no life so they enjoy sitting there with their fake internet girlfriends . The amount of minigame clanchat filled with these virgins who are maxed so just try and cyber all days because they can't get a real girl is pathetic... Like in the PC clanchat there is the same 10 guys there everyday who are always sucking up to 2 e girls in the clan chat.. Sums up osrs now. No new content and a dead game. Can't even remember the last time there was a capped 2k world in the past year now

@IgnoreMeImWrong

5 жыл бұрын

@@slayerr4365 Apparently you haven't seen all the comments from max players floating around. lol.. I know a number of maxes and they all have alt accounts that they continue to level to 200m.

@lyrianmaximus4561

4 жыл бұрын

a small graphic update would be great

@osrsbeatrs3249

4 жыл бұрын

The game isn’t close to “dying off” and rejecting new skills and new content isn’t a bad thing. 1) New content doesn’t mean good content, and 2) OSRS receives new content every month anyway, so that argument is wrong on two points. OSRS mobile had over 5 million downloads as of January 2019 and OSRS had a record-breaking 550,000 members in 2018 according to the 5:25 mark of the OSRS video uploaded on October 11, 2018 - OSRS Q&A - Runefest Reveals, Extended Zoom, and More!” If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it with needless content like new skills.

I think the point you make on having a a beta test for a new skill is a really good one and Jagex should take a look at it. Great vid, keep up the good work!

@MastaMixes

5 жыл бұрын

Not really, since jagex would have to actually develop the new skill which would take an enormous amount of time/ressources for something that may not pass. Not ever gonna happen.

@vinhoverde3843

5 жыл бұрын

@@MastaMixes im assuming the skill is already being developed idk, cause its a slow thing as it may not pass, and they should want to release it fairly after the poll if it gets a 75% acceptance, which i highly doubt tbh Edit: not using full resources on it ofc

@Brettcroese

5 жыл бұрын

you cant just implement a skill into the game and then take it out, it has a massive effect on the economy and no one would want that

@GhostlyGhille

5 жыл бұрын

@@Brettcroese he said a beta.. how long have you played runescape?. They literally do then like dmm worlds you character has no affect on your real character..

I love OSRS but as a community, people need to be able to accept change. Lets be honest, only reason RS3 isn't good is because of EoC, not because of the graphics or new skills or bosses. If OSRS never changes it will eventually die out and it will be our own fault. Keeping the mechanics simple and adding new skills / bosses / activities keeps the game alive.

@GoblinWar

2 жыл бұрын

Eoc is fine it's just not nostalgic

@painnmisery2582

2 жыл бұрын

its funny that you mention not being able to accept change, but bring up eoc. have you even tried it longer then 10 minutes? lets be real. the biggest reason people dont like rs3 is the combat is to "complex" for them. which is bs because its still basically left click and wait. also they dont have runelite/public bots to carry them through the game.

@ohokok

2 жыл бұрын

dont need a new skill actually

@Alan-ou8tf

2 жыл бұрын

Lol eoc on release was unbelievably garbage. Not only did it ruin combat, but also destroyed people's account builds and the entire game economy overnight.

@evanrozsa

2 жыл бұрын

In some ways yes, but others no. I far prefer the graphics of OSRS versus RS3 and it is a big reason that I play OSRS.

We NEED a new skill.... we NEED that hype, that world first 99, those events, everything. It's good for the game. Also, repoll sailing!!

@mikkel1894

4 жыл бұрын

@Battulga Munkhbayar lets remove everything from the grand exhange and later then, it's clearly not oldschool.

@mikkel1894

4 жыл бұрын

@Battulga Munkhbayar it's either all okay, or none of it is okay.

@temfps

4 жыл бұрын

Battulga Munkhbayar dope to see another mongolian in the comments

@charlesdortch4213

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikkel1894 the grand exchange is not old school bro if they did not update OSRS with new stuff it would have way less players than even rs3 and be dead

@mikkel1894

3 жыл бұрын

@@charlesdortch4213 i think you missed the point...

I didn't know about the "Sailing", dude... I mean... Why not? :( it could worked very well. And I loved the example at the end with Agility. You have all de reason.

They should make a Sailing skill. It would tie in with Construction and Fishing giving much needed vitalisation to both skills. Having a combined high Sailing and fishing level should give you access to new fish that are worth a lot of money. You would have to build you ship up like a player owned house. You could pay to have your ship located at one of the many already existing ports in the game. Having the ability to travel from port to port depending on your level. Then starting port could be Port Sarim for example. Warding sucks balls. I'm definitively voting no on it as it does not seem like it takes much effort to make compared to sailing which is far more creative and is something runescape should have had many years ago.

Dungeoneering or sailing would be way more fun than warding imo

@bretert

5 жыл бұрын

Yea I want Dungeoneering with gp or xp rewards or usefull tools like bonecrusher/runepouch not bis PvP or Bossing weaponry but maybe older items like dragon claws and prayer scrolls too

@justinpeterson1075

5 жыл бұрын

"Way more fun" probably way more unbalanced too. Warding has the Old School feel, the others do not.

@desolateearth1991

5 жыл бұрын

@@justinpeterson1075 Dungeoneering had it's own (epic) self contained ecosystem. The only part of it that affected balance were the rewards which were more balanced than what we have today. The chaotic crossbow doesn't even come close to rivaling the dps of the twisted bow/ blowpipe (these items out damage even the rapier w/ turmoil)(rigour is now stronger than pre-eoc too). The osrs rapier has the same attack bonus as the choatic rapier, but it's non-degradable and we now have power creep from the torture, avernic, and now gloves with kebos that did no exist pre-eoc. Warding does not "feel oldschool". It looks completely out of place and has a shit design.

@justinpeterson1075

5 жыл бұрын

@@desolateearth1991 Pre EoC still had Turmoil, Soul Split, Summoning. Warding is great, even Andrew and Paul Gower said it made perfect sense and there was no reason we couldn't create magic armors. I'd vote Yes to Warding just because it doesn't introduce anything broken, helps the economy potentially, and means we could probably avoid a truly idiotic skill getting implemented in its place.

@desolateearth1991

5 жыл бұрын

@@justinpeterson1075 poh pools, dwh, dhcb, dragon hunter lance, scythe/tbow/blowpipe makes turmoil look balanced, summoning > altscape. The only one that shouldn't have gone through was soul split. Curse prayers and summoning could've been slightly nerfed and it would've been way better than the current state of powercreep in osrs. The problem is the poor design. A couple of magic amours to fill some niches would be great, but we don't need glorified splashing as a skill. Dungeoneering was almost an entire game within itself with amazing boss fights, fun team gameplay, and a very balanced tier system within the dungeon etc, warding just doesn't even hold a candle to it. I won't vote yes to mediocre content. Either introduce some good quality gameplay or don't bother.

>jagex refuses to hide poll results during voting >jagex spends time and money making new content >herd mentality foils any genuine votes for their ideas

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

they hid the poll results before Warding and it still failed at 66%, well short of the 75% needed

I really like your idea of a demo before a poll. A lot of players blindly vote no because they don't want another skill to grind (in one of the most grind intensive games there is) and because they have little idea of what the skill will entail or how much it will change the game. I believe a new skill is needed and agree sailing would have been super fun but stand with Jagex on the idea of this being a skill that could have fit in at launch. *Fingers crossed*

After watching this now I really want sailing to be a skill lol.

@zmandyce

5 жыл бұрын

Swim swim

@beurtvanbaningen7786

5 жыл бұрын

sailing>warding

@svennieehX050

5 жыл бұрын

I was fucking hyped for sailing, making your own ship, and exploring all kinds of islands with random stuff on it... damn.

@KendrickMan

5 жыл бұрын

If I saw these in game shots i would have voted yes on sailing. I honestly didnt think they had it so well planned

@avengefulgamer3188

5 жыл бұрын

@@KendrickMan Same man, same.

They need to realize they're some things that just cant be polled... not with a salty community like this.

@hunter5502000

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah well when we got osrs after Jagex fucked up, the agreement was that all new content would be polled. You don't like it, don't play.

@chrisd3969

4 жыл бұрын

Dont worry a lot of people are leaving. The worlds are usually empty now.

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

we saw what happened to the original game when they ignored the players' wishes

As long as the next skill isn't a buyable, I'll be happy.

@Ultizer

5 жыл бұрын

Warding is just going to be a money sink like smithing & crafting, the stupid community should have voted in sailing.

@connorday9516

4 жыл бұрын

Who cares?

@kukifitte7357

3 жыл бұрын

Still salty about sailing not getting added.

@Luukaar

3 жыл бұрын

I wish sailing got added, It seemed fun as fuck to build your ship and go adventure and encounter a big ass Kraken and shit, sometimes, I say fuck this community

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

we already have sailing, just go to Port Sarim or do Dragon Slayer

Sailing honestly looks fun

@xXL1VE4IDE4LSXx

5 жыл бұрын

It didnt pass because it was linked to life steal amulets that wouldve crashed sgs and guthans, if the amulets had been polled separately and not in the same question as if you want the skill to pass, then it wouldve been given a thumbs up. They fked up the poll and they didnt re-do it, it wasnt the community's fault, it was Jagex.

@Knightfire66

5 жыл бұрын

saliing and invention. those skills are great... invention or scientist... its a skill. its an upgrade system for rs... its good. but maybe without the machines. and without devination... alternative to devination could be a energy generator that works with coal or organic fuel and creates energy... just like devination does...

I feel like this skill would defiantly fit into OSRS the best of any new skill, as it does not create any new end-porducts and thus does not contribute to power creep. it also feels like a skill that IS missing! crafting can create ranged armor and smithing can create melee armor so why not have a skill that can create magic? As for people comparing it to invention...that is purely ignorance or fearmongering as they are nothing alike at all. Invention is about destroying thousands of low level items to give a slight boost to high level items. Warding is about producing magic armor...

@steffie224vdv

5 жыл бұрын

"Slight boost" venomblood alone makes it possible to make bank at Gregorovic (a boss that poisons you for those who don't play rs3). With that perk you won't get poisoned

@steffie224vdv

5 жыл бұрын

You can camp more bosses also i am jot gonna talk about more perks because this is os

@threeep4023

5 жыл бұрын

One of the major reasons invention was introduced was to provide a dump for excess equipment and items. It revitalized the economy, many areas of the game (God Wars items became important again, among many others), and also provided very useful boosts to skilling and combat. The old school team clearly wants something like that in osrs, which is why they made a big point of warding requiring you to break down equipment. Regardless of whether warding would be fun, if it it's anywhere near as effective as invention, it would be a good addition to osrs.

@jordanlittle9809

5 жыл бұрын

So a skill to make dead gear? Maybe when osrs launched, but definitely not now. Crafting has magic staves, at least, so its not like warding is totally missing. Warding also looks incredibly dull to train with no rewards and I don't think implementing rewards would help either. I cant wait to see the overwhelmingly no'd poll.

@kinshraslave3450

5 жыл бұрын

Some players don't have that much of a meta-game mine set. In fact I had thought that line of thinking was more in line with RS3 players. So should smithing be removed as a skill since it can only make low level armor? @@jordanlittle9809

75% votes to pass meanwhile 80% of the community has autism. this wasn't thought through at all

@TheChocolajeable

5 жыл бұрын

I think the people who complaining about some changes are the autistic people because they can't handle changes lol. I still like old school its still way different than rs3

@ciderhat2760

5 жыл бұрын

@Jacob G I can understand that people dont want it to be like RS3 but they are so protective of it that nothing will change or be introduced

@Ultizer

5 жыл бұрын

autistic people will vote no because they don't like change, but then will vote yes for Priff into the game because they want afk exp. god damn the osrs community.

@thelegacyofgaming2928

5 жыл бұрын

@Jacob G It's impossible to go RS3 unless they do evolution of combat and graphics change which is never happening.

Feelsbad to be jagex and work so hard on creating new content just to have the community say no and have you not implement it in the game making all the work for practically nothing

Personally, Warding as a "meh" at best response for me and I have absolutely no love for agility. But seriously, Artisan sounds like a HUGE quality of life improvement that incentivizes players to try out different parts of their skills. And sailing, while a bit of an odd ball, could of been great if done right. I dont want Old School Runescape I want better Runescape.

Sailing i need. Sailing i must.

Theres a special place in hell for people who no voted the artisan, sailing or warding skill. Literally no reason not to have extra skills in the game. It just scares people who are maxed as they would no longer be maxed. It's sad.

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

Max players don't vote no to new skills because they don't want to re-max. They already invested 2000+ hours in the game, what difference would a few dozen more hours for a new skill make? They vote no because newly proposed skills are unnecessary and detrimental to the game. There is a reason to vote against new skills in the game. They are poorly designed and unnecessary. The game peaks at 100K+ players every day over a year after Warding failed, clearly proving that new skills aren't needed for the game's survival.

@CalumOH

3 жыл бұрын

@@osrsbeatrs3249 Warding alone is a necessary skill. Compare magic items to any other attack styles items. Magic items is barebones and scarce. Warding would beef it out and add a new layer to magic which is desperately needed. Just because it isn't necessary for the games survival doesn't mean it shouldn't be added. It would maybe make the game more fun, similarly to the new mini games that have been added.

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

If the community voted no to Warding and new skills, none of which even reached 70% approval let alone 75%, that alone is enough reason for them not be added in the game. If the combat triangle is unbalanced, then so be it. That doesn't warrant a new skill. They tried changing combat too much in RS2/RS3, and that's what led to its decline and the revival of OSRS in the first place.

Sailing sounds so cool, tf guys. It only lost by a few percent points too, there definitely should be a repoll on it.

The year is 2023 Sailing enters the chat & slaps the absolute dog sh*t out of Colonello

This didn’t age well

Always so excited to see a new upload from you! You make a lot of good points about the polling system and also the reality of introducing a new skill in OSRS. I think if a new skill were to capture the attention of the community it would probably have to be a wild card.. not something like artisan, but like you said; something closer to agility (but not as out there as any of the newer RS3 stuff, or even construction.)

People only use ranged or melee for pvm because magic equipment is a lot harder to obtain than range/melee equipment. If this skill make it into the game then there will be balance between the 3 styles of combat instead of just seing 2 types of combat styles and then a teleportation skill.

@MadsVild

5 жыл бұрын

@@g.h7657 No it does not only have teleports i know that but that is basicly the only Thing you use magic to

@EldenSoulsVids

5 жыл бұрын

I think the real reason magic isnt used often in pvm is because it costs so much from the runes

@murderer1105

5 жыл бұрын

lol.... no the real reason is because melee/range out-dps mage pretty much everywhere apart from specific bosses where you are forced to use magic

@thelegacyofgaming2928

5 жыл бұрын

@@O_Canada I think the pk'ing scene would be better if it was balanced, that way you don't automatically know your opponent is pulling out a dds maul spec combo or ags.

repoll artisan pretty sure it would go trough nowdays.

@especiallyabsent

5 жыл бұрын

That skill sounds terrible. That whole skill that incorporates other skills thing is silly. Just like dungeoneering, it’s not a skill, it’s a mini game. Just add a mini game. That way the people who want to play it for a month before never doing it again can, and everyone else doesn’t have to waste their time. It’d be like making nightmare zone a skill called quest master that “incorporates different combat skills” to fight epic quest bosses!

@zamutax

5 жыл бұрын

@@especiallyabsent u actually dont know what artisan would of been it seems. Its like slayer for Skilling to make diff training methods viable instead of this meta of do this till 99 and would be rewarded with equips tools ect which would of planned the future to Skilling bosses eventually, it's not even close to dungeoneering or nmz, u have access to the whole world map it's more like slayer, you dont seem like a dedicated player as it seems. I've been playing osrs since launch lol anyways gl and hf kk your adventures in gielnor

@CoffeeSuccubus

5 жыл бұрын

@@especiallyabsent It's basically Slayer but not slaying, but making objects as a task.

@Barrie96

5 жыл бұрын

Artisan is basically slayer except non-combat. I would enjoy it would make me level up my skills more consistently

@loyalmcfs1337

5 жыл бұрын

@@especiallyabsent then just remove slayer its not a skill its a task to fight unique monsters XD

The damn community is why we won't have good things in OSRS.

@user-em5tu3br8o

5 жыл бұрын

Let me sleep in peace no, not hiding poll results is

Yeah hopefully they try again with Sailing that opens up a whole realm of possibilities. You can make late game fishing leveling where you’re harpooning whales, and for PKers they could have a whole new wilderness by going into the “High Seas”. Treasure hunting, smithing mithril armor for your boat, magical cannon crafting. Sometimes I wonder what goes through peoples head saying no to that content gold mine.

@crightnawler6552

Жыл бұрын

Yes.. And maybe after they will add dog grooming and ice skating skills also. Osrs is gonna be ruined as long as dumbshits like you continue to plsy it.

i like how in touch with the community the osrs team is but this also shows the flaws of design by council. i think the ideas with the beta worlds and a community vote of 60% is the best middle ground.

@007kingifrit

3 жыл бұрын

yea, all new innovative ideas would never survive democracy. that's why innovators don't ask. they show

>"we'll never get a new skill cuz it takes too much dev time for a small possibility of being added" >"devs should make full on demo worlds before players even vote"

Sailing needs to come back.... :D

@takeoischi4156

5 жыл бұрын

come back? It was never part of the game anyway. also no, it doesn't

@kukifitte7357

4 жыл бұрын

@@takeoischi4156 ay fuck you man

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

we already have sailing in the game - take a trip from Port Sarim

Man sailing would have been awesome, and I'm pretty sad that it didn't pass. I think a big reason things like this don't pass is because of the resentment between the pvp and pvm community.

@MibuInMalibu

Жыл бұрын

How do you feel about it now?

My idea for a new skill that the OSRS community would love. Slayer 2. It's just slayer again. Exactly the same. When you get slayer xp, you now choose whether it levels up slayer, or slayer 2. I mean, the OSRS community is so in love with the slayer skill, that I'm almost sure it would pass easier than other polled skills.

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

OS voted no to new skills all 3 times, Mod Mat K said it's doubtful OS ever gets a new skill after Warding failed

No... the reason why a new skill will never be released is because more than 25% of oldschools community are nostalgic crybabies. If anything gets changed that makes the game "less like it used to be", they'll be screaming and rioting. They don't realise how a game NEEDS new content though, and a new skill brings in a huge chunk of new content. The community needs to stop wanting everything to be like they want it themselves and think about the bigger picture. It's not like a new skill would hurt them, it would only bring new content to those that do want it. I would like to see warding in the game, and I don't think everyone should vote yes just because I want it, but I just mean to say that you're going to have to vote yes to some big change some day, otherwise the game just dies.

@udo

5 жыл бұрын

im voting a fat yes on warding

@lukepaule6004

5 жыл бұрын

Without the "crybaby's" you would still be playing RS3 you dolt.

@justinpeterson1075

5 жыл бұрын

Voting yes to Warding, hated Sailing.

@lukepaule6004

5 жыл бұрын

@Stevean2 People like you are why the game was ruined all those years ago. How old were you 8? You have no idea what your even talking about.

@nado1908

5 жыл бұрын

But muh eoc boogyman

This aged well

In short, the reason is that there will always be a number of people >25% that will vote down a new skill no matter what it is because it somehow fulfills their fantasy of knowing anything at all about game development

Sailing SHOULD be the next skill. Enabling players to traverse the unused ocean and allow small islands and other content to be placed out. I think it’d be best if WHILE traveling, random sea events would happen (finding islands, castaways, creatures, treasure, etc).

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

we already voted no to sailing, and it didn't even reach 70% approval, let alone 75%

@007kingifrit

3 жыл бұрын

@@osrsbeatrs3249 then fake the poll, jagex could manipulate it if needed. i want a new skill to train poll it again

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

@@007kingifrit it doesn't matter if you want a new skill, we need 75% approval and never even reached 70% for any of the 3 proposed skills. “To some this may not be the ideal skill, but I don't see another skill coming if it fails.“ - Mod Mat K, July 2019 on Twitter, referring to Warding Q: Do you honestly believe we won’t see a new skill in five years? A: No. Absolutely not. I think we’re done with that. - 3:13:40 mark of Mod Mat K’s January 2020 interview with Mod Shauny

@hovsep56

Жыл бұрын

​@@osrsbeatrs3249seems like we getting sailing after all

According to what I've read these are the most common excuses against new skills/ especially warding... 1. People don't want to train a new skill. New skills take time and effort and add more requirements to the game (quests/diaries). - Valid opinion for personal reasons, but holds back the game. 2. The skill could be a mini-game instead. - (An excuse that goes back to #1) Also creates a larger possibility for dead content after minigame is "completed" 3. The skill could be incorporated into another skill. - (Another excuse that goes back to #1) Honestly though each skill should do one thing. The only skills that don't do just one thing are....Magic and Crafting. So yes, it appears ADDING MORE to these two skills would be very beneficial.... *insert sarcasm* 4. The skill is too complicated. - People see too many steps and run away due to complexity. Well sorry to break it to you... but Jagex has to worry about #5 people. 5. The skill is too simple. You buy things and you get exp doing a repetitive task. - Well sorry to break it to you... but Jagex has to worry about #4 people. Also, 18 other skills are designed this way. 6. The skill will just become dead content. - There have already been examples of imbuing high level items... possibly items 7. Power creep. - The skill just needs enough checks to prevent it from happening while still being beneficial to train so it won't fall into #6.

Even tho i’d prefer OSRS staying as it is, it cannot live as it is forever. Sure RS3 is here for new content, but OSRS needs something new. The playerbase is just stuck in the past and hate anything new, yet they don’t realize new can be good and staying like it is for a long period of time cause more harm than good. Players back then loved new skills, I bet that if you were to go back in the past and ask someone if they’d like a new skill like Warding or Sailing they would love it. But hey, nostalgia am I right.

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

the playerbase votes yes to new content the majority of the time, just not for 3 proposed new skills

Are you fucking kidding me yagex. My sailing cape. Muh sailing cape!!!

Cabbage picking was a pretty good skill. I especially liked the cabbage runes.

my thoughts, People are stupid and dont know what they want, Never let a community decide what you put and dont put into a game. especially a game like OSRS where one of its biggest selling points is "Nostalgia".

@ollybreheny9511

4 жыл бұрын

I think you’re an absolute idiot, what happened when we didn’t get to decide? Oh yeah they introduced a new combat system and made half the players quit and the game die lol

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

@@ollybreheny9511 lol exactly. People are too quick to forget why we brought back OSRS in the first place.

Will we ever get a new skill? No. Why? "But ma max cape!!!!"

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

Max players don't vote no to new skills because they don't want to re-max. They already invested 2000+ hours in the game, what difference would a few dozen more hours for a new skill make? They vote no because newly proposed skills are unnecessary and detrimental to the game.

@007kingifrit

3 жыл бұрын

@@osrsbeatrs3249 skilling is the entire point of the game. its 100% the entire reason runescape exists

I love the idea of having to have accessed and progressed the beta to a certain level if the skill before a yes or no vote.. of course with boosted xp to experience what the skill offers at the high end.

I liked your idea of giving players a chance to test the skill, that might warm people up to the idea of it much better

Then you have rs3 where they introduced POF and Invention without any community involvement. Same with EoC which is what prompted the creation of osrs in the first place and implemented the polling system. It's insane how different these 2 games are now.

@aklek2406

5 жыл бұрын

Invention is the best

@slapslicks7531

5 жыл бұрын

I played rs3 and the community seemed dead. That ruined it for me.

@ReelShortYT

5 жыл бұрын

neither of those things needed to be polled in rs3. invention was a very much needed item/gold sink, and made loads of new items to help train combat and skills, PoF is just another way to train farming and a reason to pvm for animals. no one complains about it. it's really cool tbh

@AnbuSamma

5 жыл бұрын

While im not a huge fan of EoC the game needed it, they needed to do something to drastically overhaul the game and funny enough there was a 70 - 80% of the player base who actually took part in the EoC Beta enjoyed it and actually wanted it. The thing is that when it came time to implement it jagex fucked it up and released EoC with almost no changes and in a broken state which made the players who tested it and gave good feedback upset and pissed off (which i can't blame them) however the other part of the community was pissed off and outraged that EoC became a thing to begin with and they fucked off when it released regardless of the state it was in. Personally i think that if it released in a much better state with a lot of the feedback taken and put into EoC it would of been received much better than it was, there will always be people that you can't please no matter what you do and thats a shame.

The first skill sounded amazing, would actually make skilling fun and I could finally get my skills for higher level quests up without dreading doing them I must not have been playing when that poll happened :(

Test worlds for skills would be a good idea because sometimes an idea sounds bad on paper but is actually pretty good in practice

I love that artisan idea, opens such a big new world to the game man. love it

I've noticed that everything from RS3 is always requested on osrs, EXCEPT EoC and micro transactions. People just want the same game before jagex screwed it up.

@user-em5tu3br8o

5 жыл бұрын

Arborpress you just noticed ?

@Ultizer

5 жыл бұрын

I hate how hypocritical the OSRS community, they get so angry about the idea of summoning or sailing, but then vote for Priff into the game, how is Priff "old school"

@thelegacyofgaming2928

5 жыл бұрын

summoning was awesome, the only problem with RS3 is literally evolution of combat and the graphical change.

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ultizer because people want new content, just not new skills.

I wouldn't mind if they bring back summoning but make it so it wouldnt be a combat skill I hated seeing those combat level + summoning level.

@redjohn44

5 жыл бұрын

Then its cheating.... som1 with 99 summoning vs som1 with 1 summoning. Noob stop promoting shit ideas.

2:59 The history of sailing dates wayyy back, there was a really popular forum post explaining how the sailing skill would be designed. I think this was around 2010.

Thanks for your content!

Sincerely, I just don't understand why RS HD was a problem, 70% of private servers have literally a "turn on/turn off" option, no idea why jagex didn't add it to the game yet. I obviously don't know shit about code, but it can't be such a huge deal right?

Would be great to make it only 60% yes vote to get a new skill in osrs. As I like the idea of sailing boats in game.

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

60% is such an unbelievably low threshold that the polls themselves would be obsolete. Most content that is polled already passes at 75%, the fact that none of the 3 proposed skills even reached 70% approval is enough to see that new skills are not warranted.

@mattietottle6061

3 жыл бұрын

Anything over 50% would show the majority of people would want it so setting it at 60% would be much better! It's not an unbelievably low threshold it's a more acceptable level. Just because some people wouldn't want something in game it doesn't mean that if something new got added they would need to use it.

Warding would have been legit cool since there's no skill related to mage armor crafting, but there are ones related to melee and ranged armor crafting

@Blittsplitt5

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

How about change the polling system so it’s not a box in the corner and actually something that pops up when you open the game

I'm hopeful, but you covered a lot of my sentiment in this video. The community is simply too divided to achieve the astronomical 75% approval new content needs to pass. Imo content should only require a 66% or 2/3 majority to at least survive its initial polling. It can then be fine-tuned later on in subsequent polls until it's at a place we can all more or less agree upon.

@TheVesylum

5 жыл бұрын

RyanDoesPokemon the last Kebos poll is for an update arguably larger than Warding and all ~40 polls passed around 85-90%

@thatnibba248

5 жыл бұрын

2\3 is basically the same thing as 75% lol

This is why i quit osrs because idiots like this that keep the game from progressing or getting new content. I bet most of the people that voted against it were gold farmers who didnt want the market to change.

honestly I would love it if they released an altered version of dungeoneering in to osrs. without the insane weapons that came with it in rs3. or atleast make them incredibly hard to get if that was the case. I feel like it wouldn't be against the spirit of osrs if it was done properly, rewarding players who invest a lot in to both combat and skilling.

lol everyone coming back to videos like this in late 2022

Warding is the best suggestion out of all the new skill ideas. It’s a skill that could’ve been in the game from the very beginning due to the way it’s trained and what it’s used for.

@FaykieRS

5 жыл бұрын

TheYellowPixel - OSRS holy hell don’t buy into their propaganda.

@LordZoth6292

5 жыл бұрын

As a player from 05-08, I think Warding is long over due. New magic robes, ability to craft staffs, and break down items? I'm in. They could even move things from skills like crafting and runecrafting over to Warding, things that don't actually "fit" under those catagories but would with Warding.

@chrisford8500

5 жыл бұрын

@@FaykieRS don't buy into reddits propaganda that it isn't something that could have been here from the beginning. The skill does make sense, it's an item sink, it adds longevity to the game... It's a good thing overall. What bad can happen from adding it? Can you give a single, solid reason why not to without using a slippery slope fallacy?

@FaykieRS

5 жыл бұрын

@@chrisford8500 immediately after the reveal they had mod wolf ramble for 5 minutes about how "natural" it was. It isn't Reddit propaganda, its an actual observation that myself and many others had. That idiot was clearly pushing a disingenuous philosophy on people because that is how Jagex wants us to see it. The "item sink" isn't even that great. Destroy an addy plate for 1 addy bar was their example. At that point it is more effective to simply sell or alch the platebody for a better return. People compare it to invention which sinks items by the tens of thousands, this is not the same thing. Nothing bad can happen as its just a game, but that doesnt mean it should be added. We can't vote yes simply for mediocrity. And what longevity does it add to the game? How does this do anything positive? The only real outcome is strife in the community and pushing players away. All that being said why add it in the first place? They said it themselves, the entire skill was based off some Mod's question about the origins of splitbark. That honestly isn't enough to base an entirely new skill off of. Also why would we want to train the skill? We already have an establish infrastructure for obtaining robes. Not to mention it isnt even remotely interesting. It's just another runecrafting. Walk craft bank repeat. What exactly does that add to the game other than demystifying splitbark. People should vote no because it is a weak skill with boring content and it really adds nothing of interest to the game. Do we really want to waste dev time and divide the community over robe crafting? Just tack it on as an alternative to runecrafting because that is all it is. Say what you want about rs3 but there is a reason all the new skills in the past 10 years have been complex game changers. Atleast we would get that with artisan or sailing and not this half assed garbage.

@bray5664

5 жыл бұрын

Oh no you've been brainwashed from them saying this over and over... Trust me this skill is just a lazy way of copying invention from RS3

Need a new skill. Maxed out all skills and now bored doing boss. I prefer grinding new skills than to grind for items/pet

@007kingifrit

3 жыл бұрын

yea the entire point of runescape is to level up, we can't have the game forever without a new skill

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

@@007kingifrit oh yes we can. Thankfully with all 3 proposed skills failing at 57%, 66%, and 68%, well short of the required 75%, it is doubtful Jagex will once more invest a lot of time and promotion in a fourth proposed skill that is bound to fail anyway. Mod Mat K himself stated he didn't think any new skill will pass after Warding failed.

So 2 years later and still no new OS skill, safe to say they gave up trying to make a new one? Its pretty dumb that they show the polling percentages when voting, makes people wanna vote for the higher one

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

they didn't show the percentages for Warding until after it failed. It made no difference. All 3 times a new skill failed the poll, the playerbase increased within the year, so it's safe to say new skills aren't needed.

When is the poll for warding coming ?

Really valid arguments and points made here. I still don't know how I'll vote on Warding. A skill based on crafting magic gear sounds really interesting. I also feel another skill could be implemented that is much more enjoyable to train with loads of new content, benefits and rewards. Who knows, maybe Warding will be really cool. Only time will tell :)

@sygos

5 жыл бұрын

it doesn't sound interesting to me, it sounds like fletching/crafting but with new items as resources It'll also be full of dead content. What is the point of "warding" wizard robes except for cheap xp? They're dirt cheap and will be driven cheaper when they're crafted, and it will probably not even be the best exp/hour. Jagex has no clue how to make things balanced for levels. It's like WHY does the Warrior's Guild have bronze-adamant defenders when they're literally dead content and almost pointless? They just make bronze-iron-steel-black-mith-addy-rune tiers of everything when 6/7 of the weapon grades are pointless. The same will happen for warding, there will be a lot of "use" for the skill but no point to doing it except to raise your max level and get the 90+ level rewards. until then it'll be useless.

@Anions

5 жыл бұрын

@@sygos You have a good point. I didn't look at it in that sense. Makes me think more about it.

@virulenthunter3017

5 жыл бұрын

@@sygos The bronze-adamant daggers are there to make you grind and work for your rune/dragon, and you literally have no idea what the skill is gonna be about besides the small amount of info that they released on it, you don't know the different armors/tiers etc. That's like saying "all low level stuff is dead content because I said it is" and besides, if we really push for it if it comes out and it's not that good, they CAN make changes to it

@DIVAD291

5 жыл бұрын

​@@sygos "It's like WHY does the Warrior's Guild have bronze-adamant defenders when they're literally dead content and almost pointless? " how are they dead content? whenever you make a new account you basically have to go trough all the defenders to get the dragon defenders. its not repeatable content but that doesn't really make it dead content. dead conten refers more to something that could technically be done but people choose not to do it. as for them being pointless...games are fundamentally pointless so pointing out that one bit of them is pointless really doesn't mean anything because all of it is pointless. their "purpose" is basically to make getting the dragon defender harder. thats a very important thing to understand when making anything thats meant to entertain people...you can't just give stuff to people and expect them to value it like it was the most important thing ever. how much value we give to something is tied to how hard we worked for it and stuff like that exploits this aspect of how humans think. most skills are full of dead content and honestly while their contribution to your overall experience of runescape seems like its strictly negative thats only because you don't understand how humans work very well.

Well this didn’t age well hahah

LMAO did someone at Jagex watch this video? Now they're polling content before developing it AND they've lowered the polling threshold, then soon after announcing a new skill????!! I think you're owed a payout Colonello...

Yeah that's nice the demo worlds and 65% yes votes sailing sounds complicated tbh but i wouldnt mind doing it with a friend of mine

@Beckwourth

5 жыл бұрын

Someone even made indept chart of how sailing should work and be.

poll soul wars

@Sedgehun

3 жыл бұрын

It’s coming :)

Still rooting for sialing

Rs3: doesn't get new content because the devs don't care Osrs: doesn't get new content because the players don't want it

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

lol how does OSRS not get new content? New content passes the polls all the time, just not new skills, because they are poorly designed and unnecessary.

There is a place for a new skill. I don't think it would be artesian or sailing. Adding something like warding where you can create magical equipment. At the end of the day. The devs aren't going to make everybody happy and hunter was created by an intern. They had to rework the shit out of it. But it works now.

Oh come on, we all know that oldschool runescape isn't oldschool anymore. It's original plans were supposed to not introduce new content. Now look where we are. "Oldschool" should be more like "Newschool Revision 2" where it has a better impact on the game. Let's not vote on things based on whether or not they're oldschool, lets vote based on how it works, and whether or not it would be a good or negative impact on runescape.

@c0duty

5 жыл бұрын

Dude admit it this game would be so fucking boring without unique additions

@-Jansen155

5 жыл бұрын

It's still oldschool because of the slow exp rates that make you work much harder to earn things than other MMOs, and because all the updates are something that would have worked well if they were released in 2007.

@ShaunDreclin

5 жыл бұрын

The plan was never to not have updates. Right from the very beginning one of the options on the poll for opening osrs was getting a dev team for content updates.

@russellreal

5 жыл бұрын

@@g.h7657 I feel like hunter is garbage too, never train it, but it also doesn't mean there aren't hunter LOVERS out there, and because I have lvl 1 hunter, doesn't mean that there aren't people with 200m hunter experience... Who cares if a new skill comes out? Aslong as its not MTX based, let them release it, someone will love it even if you don't. Its content, and put a quest behind it and you're now forced to level it, thats fair... Right now there are tons and tons of max level accounts and nobody wants to vote yes on a new skill because then these neckbeards are going to have to spend another hundred hours on a new skill.. Tough luck the game needs changes

@NaughtyKlaus

5 жыл бұрын

@@c0duty Yep I agree.

I may be the first to say, but I think I’ll vote yes on Warding. I am very curious to see what’ll happen.

@A1O0

5 жыл бұрын

Osrs will slowly die for sure lmfao. I am personally never logging back in, if 2277 is no longer max. This is history repeating itself and you noobs still are clueless of the likeliest outcome.

@TheVesylum

5 жыл бұрын

There is huge support for Warding. Sailing was half assed and got 68% 3 years ago. All of these people are gonna eat their words once it passes.

@Valorince

5 жыл бұрын

666 One skill is gonna be that hard to max for someone who’s had a max account for years? I’m not saying I don’t understand your side, but I think a new skill would be cool.

@A1O0

5 жыл бұрын

What I am saying is that theres still a clear 50/50 vote, so why jagex is suggesting this is beyond me, I wouldnt mind the content being added but making it an entire skill in a way forces a large amount of players to train it whether they want to or not. And not just to 99. Its adding an entire 200M worth of xp in a completely new activity mind you. Also saying that there is a triangle for the making of combat equipment much like there is with the way that combat works is just wrong. We use smithing for ranged and crafting for magic and again, ranged. This skill idea seems rushed and is not welcomed by a lot of players.

@A1O0

5 жыл бұрын

Keep ignoring the dangers of it at your own risk, just dont complain in 4 years about mtx, easy grinds and the game being dead.

Ah but youve forgotten about the mobile release and the influx of new players. They will probably not be as sentimental to the nostalgia of old school and it might actually pass...

I didn't even know all that stuff about artisan an sailing those sound freaking awesome

BRING BACK DUNGEONEERING

My bank doesn’t have room for a new skill

@billyherrington8878

5 жыл бұрын

Then dont train the new skill.

@ThatClassyWhiteD

5 жыл бұрын

Or clean your bank

So the Sailing skill has been announced on the 31st of August, 2023 on the Oldschool RuneScape official homepage of its future release titled 'Sailing Poll Results Summary'. I'll be most likely released in 2024 or definitely 2025. 'We're aiming to release in late 2024' - According to Jagex.

Mods: Here is a new fun idea which makes the game refreshing but still keeps its original style Players: FUCK YOU JAGEX! WE DID NOT HAVE IT IN 2007 SO NO! Also Players: I am glad they've added Zulrah The thing is, OSRS is no longer this nostalgia trip. And people turned into ''What is the most efficient way of playing''. So everything which supports their efficiency, a.k.a nothing fun, only serious stuff, will get accepted. Sailing was such a wasted opportunity. Imagine all the possibilities like pirates, skeleton versions of pirates, ghost ships and so many unique islands to discover, heck maybe even an underwater cave or real treasure hunts like in those cartoons.

A new skill would be great... If it weren't pointless, like warding.

@ihatecrad25

5 жыл бұрын

What skills arent pointless? Fletching? Crafting? Firemaking?

@Dolei

5 жыл бұрын

@@ihatecrad25"new" skills - yes stuff like fm would be considered trash now but considering theyve been a part of rs for almost 20 years, they've got nostalgia going for them, which is basically the founding principle of OSRS

@nathanieljones8381

5 жыл бұрын

Ari Kerssens ya but your argument can’t work if you like fire making, fishing, fletching, smithing, slayer, crafting, etc. all these skill are the same and are basically nothing skills. You can’t bash warding for it if you also like those skills.

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

Old skills have nostalgic appeal. Warding and new skills don't. That's the difference regardless of utility. Artisan, Sailing, and Warding were useless skills AND don't have nostalgic appeal on top of that, nor are a part of the game's history and lore.

i always vote yes for new skills

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

still failed all 3 times

While it sounds cool as its own skill, it really does sound like something like Warding could easily be an extension (perhaps an upgrade) to Runecrafting in OSRS (and maybe in RS3 too, heck!) But Like the video said, same could be said of Agility back in the day.

@schlickrick4526

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you dude! Runecrafting sucks so hard that doing an overhaul like adding some of the warding shit could work, but I don't wanna be forced to level a skill if I want a ring imbued or my slayer helmet imbued

Diving skill would be cool get to explore the bottom of the Gila nor oceans?

Artisan and sailing made more sense than warding tbh, warding was just flat out bad. It had some very negative consequences like taking imbue out of NMZ, and the rest of the skill should just be put into runecrafting, crafting, and magic. Runecrafting really needs more than just making runes, it could even have its name changed to warding and be all encompassing.

@ShaunDreclin

5 жыл бұрын

They're planning on taking imbues out of nmz regardless of how the warding poll goes.

@garrettwidner6915

5 жыл бұрын

@@ShaunDreclin That's still a hilariously horrible move. They can't just leave something in the game for 5 years then decide it's not fair and needs to be changed. At that point it's doing more harm than good. Imbues don't even have a big impact on the game. Imbues have always been NMZ only (in OSRS), and it's not like they're ruining drop tables like pre-nerf Wintertodt or Zulrah.

Sailing got 68% 3 years ago. I think you're gonna eat your words. Almost every single poll passes nowadays, including every single Kebos poll and at an average of 85-90%.

@TheRadPlayer

5 жыл бұрын

I've kinda been getting the feeling most people just hit YES for every poll that comes up.

@mrmcjeff385

5 жыл бұрын

Lots of people who I know used to vote "no" to keep the game as-is now vote "yes" because they want new content so they don't get bored, any new content. As long as it's not mtx or eoc me and plenty of others want it just for something new to do

@osrsbeatrs3249

3 жыл бұрын

Warding failed, 0 for 3 on new skills haha

75 percent is a high bar to set for new skills to pass. Skillers pkers and pve players will rarely all agree on something since they don’t want to take away time from what they like doing to lvl something not in their wheel house. I think Dungeoneering and sailing should be in old school and it sucks knowing they will likely never be.

Is the new skill going to be afkable? As mobile phone users I'm sure play on it at a leisure. Like being at work on lunch

Poll Dungeoneering

@TheVesylum

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck yes. Honestly gotta be the most fun skill ever, including Slayer. Just tweak the rewards because fuck degradable equipment.

@Eskinor

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah it could be rewardless / just reward current ingame items for all I care, I just like the gameplay

@juzgar357

5 жыл бұрын

TheVesylum go play rs3 instead fantasising about osrs turning into it.

@shiredai7233

5 жыл бұрын

Ebe771 all you butthurt people who tell people to go to rs3 instead lol.

@sintheemptyone8108

5 жыл бұрын

It's quite absurd to see the RS3 and OSRS communities in each others' throats. We get it, you OSRS players are entitled veterans. #justRSveteranproblems Perhaps you've become too accustomed to that maxed cape and a position in some leaderboards, and you see other players as nothing more but pitiful peasants. It is said that fame corrupts people without brains into pretentious husks.

Problem with these proposed skills is they aren't independent. They all branch out and require some other skills to be able to train the "new" skill. Not to mention the rewards for training such skill are negligible. Imo for a new skill to pass there has to be a tangible benefit that changes the way the game is played. Warding for example, just allows you to craft magic Armour, which isn't a big deal because you can always buy the magic armour. So there is no need to make an entire skill focused on being able to craft it. Basically this new warding skill is redundant and not necessary to the game.

@Saplingbat

5 жыл бұрын

Your argument makes no sense. Smithing is only used to make armor and weapons, and mining only exists to do smithing. The only difference is they've been there since the start.

@DIVAD291

5 жыл бұрын

"Imo for a new skill to pass there has to be a tangible benefit that changes the way the game is played." i will always vote agaisn't something that "benefits" me huge amounts in that fashion. stuff like that is how you end up with rs3.

@GhostlyGhille

5 жыл бұрын

That's the case let's remove smithing and crafting your logic is regressive.

Artisan sounds like an elite skill in RS3, requiring multiple skills to train. Could be an issue training it, if you're not high level in non-combat skills.

What if there was a skill or "perk path" that involved players picking tasks that they want other players to complete and both players trade a list of say three tasks. When all tasks are complete both players receive xp or the equivalent. You can be good and give the other player easy tasks or troll tasks but both players will decide their counterparts tasks list (kill x amount of monster using only a bronze dagger, mine 100 coal, get 10,000 xp in runecrafting etc...) You can choose up to 20 players to trade tasks with (since not everyone may be as active as another player). Possible rewards for leveling up include...