I remember back in the day, safe spotting tzhaars using a rune halberd, while chatting with people doing their fight cave attempts. I miss those days. I'd never safe spot with a halberd nowadays, but I look back on those days fondly. Great times. I honestly miss not knowing the best/most efficient way to play the game. Everyone was much more social, mini games were popping, and nobody cared that someone was "wasting XP".

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

I miss those days too. :( Lumridge Castle's courtyard was always full of people just sitting around and chatting.

@LouterLikeaBaws

Жыл бұрын

Timetravelling?

@MellowFelloh

Жыл бұрын

Yeah early internet days were amazing. A lot of games lose a lot of fun once metas set in which is just modern gaming in general nowadays.

@rubikquitous8482

Жыл бұрын

I did 70-92 str at tzhaars with d hally and reg attack /str pots from the burthorpe. was lit. slow as hell but anime helps haha

@Wickedreptiles

Жыл бұрын

That’s how I still play 18 years later

Seeing players with the fire cape way back then was always so mesmerizing. “How long did it take?” “About 2 hours..”

@scott4207

Жыл бұрын

Also bare in mind there was no logging in and out of waves, you were in the fight cave for 2 hours straight!

@CMKloser

Жыл бұрын

Also playing something for 2 hours straight was a long time back then too.

@djdentonyo

Жыл бұрын

still took my im about 2 hours with rcb lol But yeah, I took breaks

@tappajaav

Жыл бұрын

@@djdentonyo Very uncool

@Tagerrun

Жыл бұрын

@@scott4207 it only took 2 hours if you sucked. I beat the caves with magic at lev 85cb. Back in 2006 maybe a little earlier.

I remember attempting the fight caves as a noob with 43 prayer and full rune. I was ready for anything. Got my ass ended to me by a 90, didn't even get to the magers

@modehfy1352

Жыл бұрын

Dude same, i went in full rune and a d long. Inv full of sharks and some super restores. At one point, i was like where is this mfer. LOL i was like 12.

@Yomommasbussy

Жыл бұрын

Prayer pots and candies

So, I don't think this means Chrisaki ruined the fight caves. In a way he - like some bug abusers - actually helped bring to light an update riddled with errors, which was brought to Jagex's attention. Some bug abusers....definitely have truly ruined a lot more than that.

Ah yes, i remember when no one knew how to play the game, it was honestly a more fun and relaxed time. You'd find out most things by word of mouth, we'd even do quests the old fashioned way.

@mrboston6555

Жыл бұрын

For real I still do quests the old fashioned way

@JasonMcClatchy

Жыл бұрын

Not true

@UltraProchy

Жыл бұрын

i really miss the days when it was normal to go in games blind, trading was between people and learning a close window shortcut cost you a mithril longsword

@jshtng78

Жыл бұрын

@@UltraProchy There were already people making popular guides back then and disseminating them. Their spread was literally only limited by poorer internet access.

@007Hutchings

Жыл бұрын

Ya but KZread wasn’t popular back then. In fact most KZreadrs were drama queens. No one over 12 years old wanted to watch that shit show of a site let alone look up guides there.

J1mmy's attempt on byrelease was insane enough as it is. Keep in mind he had access to a decade of worth knowledge and settled guiding him and he still barely scraped by. Can't imagine what it'd be like as a kid in 2005.

@parkerwinton5661

Жыл бұрын

as someone who was a kid in 2005 i can tell you i never made it past the rangers

@AdamOwenBrowning

Жыл бұрын

We tried, were awed by its difficulty, and gave up knowing that better players would become legends to their friends, and maybe eventually teach us how :P This was back when every other milestone also felt extremely far off and impossible. I trained 99s in melee combat at no greater than 45-50k exp an hour at optimal best! Because almost any extreme achievement felt a very long away, the fight caves yawning difficulty gap didn't feel unfair, it felt like something to eventually overcome like all the milestones in the game. That said I still don't have a fcape

Bro I'm watching this at work and burst out laughing at the Caramelldansen edit. Love you.

I was in the clan with him back in 2005 when he had the cape. He was actually in a clan called demonic empire. I actually recently reached out to some people that used to be in the clan as well and it turned out he used to date one of them which no one knew about. He was a nice guy back when I spoke to him. No idea what he’s doing now.

Ranger boots? 500K? Take me back to the good days.

@trl2151

Жыл бұрын

Rangerboots were actually a few mil, between 3-5mil. And the ranger hat was about 25 mil. Fury was closer to 15 mil, and Guthans was way pricier than that, 9 mil was the price after a while. When it first came out it was closer to 30

@Aprici6892

Жыл бұрын

@@trl2151 I've had 3 ranger hats from clues and sold each for under 2m.

If you manage to exploit safe spots like this with a reward like the Fire Cape, which can't be traded and while it makes you a bit more powerful doesn't break the game, you should be allowed to keep it. That an oversight on Jagex' part, not you breaking the game.

@CMKloser

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, maybe they could have made it into an unwearable version unless you used another firecape on it. Then you could just make people get a 2nd to prove they could do it. Also would make a super rare account if they left the fire cape unwearable to this day.

@BigDaddyWes

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It's definitely not cheating at all and it was in no way a player ruining the fight caves. I watched this entire video waiting for the part where someone cheated. Nope. Just a bug in the game.

@mr.messofgeorgia

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, not a cheat at all. even today, OSRS is stuffed with safe spots. I used one to train my ranged on a scorpion in Al kharid. There's a triangle of bushes you can lure it into that it can't get back out of if you stand on the north side. imo for it to be a cheat, they'd have to be literally injecting code to get the item, not using the own game's oversighted mechanic to their advantage. That's just cheesing.

@A_Goat

Жыл бұрын

@@mr.messofgeorgia You make a fair point to an extent and I agree somewhat however to play devil's advocate this isn't the same thing as luring a scorpion behind some bushes or safe spotting being an oversighted game mechanic. This is breaking NPC aggression and nulling the NPC entirely. 10:43 you can see it is not only within range but within path to hit him but is not even aggressive to him because it is in a state of returning. Similar to how when you run away from an NPC and it drops aggro then returning to it's area. Only here it cannot find the pathing to return and returning has prio. That is what was being done by luring it away from Italy Rock. This is exploitation and against the games rules. Broke the fight caves entirely because they were using this lure method to null most of the waves.

@ShaneCreightonYoung

Жыл бұрын

They could have given 2nd different coloured fire cape after they fixed the safe spot.

Man that clip at the beginning of the dude in mystics water blasting the blob sent me back. I was a kid when fight caves came out and I didn’t fathom completing it. I’d go in and use it to train all my combat stats up to wave 30 or so- magic and melee especially. Never knew things were set in stone wave wise, so I always thought a mager would come out of nowhere and 1 shot me at any time.

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

Thats awesome hahah. During this video while I was getting clips, I did the same thing. Just afking in the caves gaining XP.

Raid shadow legends needs a subscription service to stop seeing its ads

I remember doing this back in the day, used two crystal bows where one was meant to be kept at full power and the second bow would fire the last few shots so that it would take the degradation hit. That way you'd have a 10/10 bow for most of your attacks.

Got my first fire cape early 2006 after 13 failed tries on a very slow internet, was super satisfying. Still got that original cape on my rs3 acc.

To clear up some of the bit about the clan mentioned, Imperial Forces - I was in the clan at the time (refer to my youtube name). As far as I'm aware the person who played the account at that time was not the person who got the original fire cape - i.e. gave the account away to someone else. This was 13-14 years ago or more, so my memory is a bit spotty, but this is what I recall. I think he may have turned up to one clan war, but again, not the same person. Nice to feature briefly in your video though! (lol)

i would absolutely love a boss stage where you need to stealth across somewhere and use the ring of stone and other form altering stuff to hide from them. that'd be fucking cool

This video ended really abrubtly, I thought you were gonna be like "and it was Chrisaki who got the d2h, which raised further suspicions that he didn't legitimately get the firecape, nor the d2h" and explore that further, but it was like "and it was chrisaki who got the first d2h, cya"

ill never forget the feeling of my first firecape. glad i was in your clan chat when it happened it was pure euphoria! these caves never cease to be difficult for someone!

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

So true! Its such an amazing feeling. :D

RuneHq was key back then for doing anything

I remember in mid 2006 seeing a pure with a fire cape and thinking, how the heck, he was only about level 50ish as well

@tappajaav

Жыл бұрын

Could've been uaex, he used to have record for lowest level fire cape kzread.infovideos

Subscribed at the part with Mom screaming in the background. That was so relatable!

7:45 - Haha, love the Soup callout 😛

Nice video, very well done. I enjoyed playing osrs for a couple years, then tried the fight caves and after numerous attempts the entire fun of the game was gone. I completely understand no one taking credit for it.

Impaler99 here, writer of original guide and second fire cape acquired - Funny to realize how many people I got killed with that little bit of poor wording, but I assumed people would not be in melee range of Jad. XD Appreciate the shout outs! Great video my man!

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video! :)

I'm doing my first ever fight caves attempt this Friday with some buddies in Discord...this noob is super pumped.

I remember doing this with karils bow and black d hide back in the day I was bumping Linkin Park while doing it and I got my first cape that way it was so EPIC! it felt like when I beat inferno just recently pure dopamine adrenaline at the end ahah miss those days :( Evolution Of Combat was the end for me....until OSRS came out again :)

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

I felt the same way when I got my first cape. Such an amazing feeling :)

I remember getting that back in late 08/early 09 after coming back. The brews and diamond bolt tips really made a difference by then (as well as I guess pray switching guides, but 1 ticking was still kinda hard with the internet/etc.)

Your videos are great! Always look forward to watching them 🙂

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! :D

Hearing tales of long past mmo glitches/exploits is always a fun time even if I never played the game

Lmfao I was not ready for that sponsor transition 🤣

"Much like a Soup quest guide, ton of information, but not all of it correct" Thats an understatement. 😂

"GO TO THE BATHROOM YOURE SHITTING YOURSELF" Hahahah wtf?

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

The grind is real 😎

@Eyes0penNoFear

Жыл бұрын

At first I thought that was the WoW episode of South Park.

Imagine you playing minecraft and 20 years later someone makes a video about you and it gets almost 100k views crazy

@basicx7789

Жыл бұрын

Ay thanks for the heart man made my night

I remember using the caves to train my melee. I would go in with full guthan and just last as long as I could until the enemies out dps me. Then just go right back in since it restored your stats when you died lol

anyone remember the "release notes" on the fight caves with the picture of that dude in full guthans fighting jad getting smacked like a 70? Ive been looking for that pic forever for nostalgia reasons.

Wow, I had no idea the Chaos Elemental was that old!

@Ironbattlemace

Жыл бұрын

That fkr killed me in wildy when I accidentally stumbled upon it. There were revenants too walking around.

toughest thing i remember grinding was doing this back in 2007 on my 1 def pure basically trying to conserve prayer the whole time

Random question, but where is that sound from at 3:00? It’s driving me crazy Nice vid!

That fire cape was such a flex back in the day lmao

I know when the knowledge base still existed on the RuneScape website there was a page for minigames, which included articles for both the fight pits as well as fight caves (they were probably classified as minigames due to safe deaths). Is there any way to track down these pages from over a decade ago? No idea if these existed when Jad was still new though.

Nice to see my account name appear somehow in a youtube video. His account was only "way" above my combat level through summoning. I never bothered to complete wolf whistle

Damn, I had no idea the caves were so difficult on release. We are spoiled today lol

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

True! They're a breeze today compared to launch.

@scott4207

Жыл бұрын

@@ColonelloRS login in and out of waves never existed back then!

@montgomeryfortenberry

Жыл бұрын

Everything was more difficult then

I like how impaler99 says "jagex fixed the safespot, thankfully" and then 5 seconds later is like HOLY SHIT THERES A NEW SAFESPOT I JUST DID IT!!!

@jfesta6

Жыл бұрын

Lol, Yeah I was wrong - and it wasn't a new safespot, it was the same one. I was nice enough to share it with everybody too!

At 9:15 warlord might have been a higher rank than it seems, closer to leader or high council. In my clan at the time we did a lot of clan wars and we had the same rank structure. We had a warlord. The warlord was responsible for setting up clan wars with other clans warlords. The warlord's posts on the forums were treated similar to a leader. The warlord also called the shots in the wars, they would be in charge of choosing who to focus and would be the only one really talking in the teamspeak. If the warlord died in the wars then the leader would take over until the warlord got back to the fighting area.

Bro u hit the nail on the head. Ive been playing since classic and this is exactly how it was. Karis xbow with a cbow, and guthans. Had to borrow my clan mates guthans for the runs because i couldnt afford 9m+. Wearing that cape back then was like wearing the zuk cape. Not sure about the safe spotting tho, i had no idea about that but italy rock was known

Where did you get that deskmat?

7:08 that one caught me offguard xD

Ioved the tzhaar area as a kid so many memories in fight pits and killing tzhaars made my first couple mill from obby shields, capes and a few mauls.

Such nostalgia!! I've been playing since 2005. Remember getting my first cape in 07 With crystal bows and Sara brews.. omg... Those were the days when osrs was at its best!! And I've still got that same cape! I remember not being able to stop from start to finish! Good Times!!!

Hearing that ranger boots used to be 500k made me laugh

I didn't realize that disco jad was a thing I needed

That Fire Cape flip was just a preview of the Enchanted/Unenchanted Jewellery flip.

Lmao I remember not doing Zulrah or Olm with F-Keys years back and my friends were so shocked, I was so hesitant to learn them for some reason

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

There's definitely a bit of a learning curve, so I could see why haha

@speedyjeff4774

Жыл бұрын

I still don't use them and i have 350 corrupted gauntlet, 100 toa, 75 tob, 1.5k hydra and vork lmfao

I remember several Easters ago. When I was looking for my basket. There he was. Chrisaki. Just standing there with my basket. Then he ran off into the woods nearby and I never saw him again.

God I love the editing in this one. x) Made me giggle more than once lmao :3

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

So glad to hear that!! :D

I waited until a monthish after fight caves and Guthans was going for a little over 20mil at that point. Did fight caves in full guthans, glory, obby cape black dhide body and karils xbow. It took anywhere from 2.25-3hours depending on how often you had to stop and melee to heal but you were able to bring 4 range potions to be potted the entire time at least. It really was a challenge back then.

What do you mean you could only move camera with arrow keys? runelite has some additional feature for this?

I got my cape in mid 2009 and switching between inventory and prayer tab made me so anxious each time. It felt sooooo rewarding. I drooled watching The Murder21 videos killing Jad many ways (the most favorite is "Jad within 20 seconds"). Getting Zuk cape in RS3 felt almost as rewarding for me :)

@TWEAKLET

Жыл бұрын

you just got me rickrolled thanks

I love your videos! Keep up the good work :)

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will do! :D

You finally caught me. I've been bragging about getting a fire cape on dial up for like 17 years. I didn't actually beat jad until like 2018.

No dude seriously you're on to something when you said we need a boss with a mechanic where you have to wear a ring of stone to dodge some sort of attack or mechanic, bro.. GENUIS!! WE NEED THIS JAGEX MAKE IT HAPPEN.

@Donorito

Жыл бұрын

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@aarons6935

Жыл бұрын

@@Donorito boohoo.

@Donorito

Жыл бұрын

@@aarons6935 you probably rwt

These young whippersnappers don't even have to start jad in the morning to maybe get a cape by the evening.

Surprised you didn’t mention that you had to right click attack back then as anything higher level than you. We are spoiled with left click attack all levels now.

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

Good catch! I actually completely forgot about that

I remember when it got released lol, the whole point was it was supposed to be mysterious, hence the weird names for the obsidian stuff

The oslo smithing clip hahahahaha HOLY

Chrisaki was a pretty known guy from the leadership of one of the top clans up until EOC hit runescape, it’s weird you mention that you never found anything about him; google is full of results from forum posts where he’s mentioned Funny to know that he’s made history since 2004 lmao what a guy

Goated content honestly, keep it up

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I have a screenshot of my first ever fire cape from 2006. full guthans, karils xbow, proselyte skirt, god cloak. was legendary

Does someone know what's the song that plays at 10:27 ?

love the little edits

i remember when it first came out, i was 3 waves from jad and my friend accidentally kicked my router and unplugged the internet

does the safespot for jad still work? asking for a friend

I remember back in the day when Santa hats were about 25m, I just reached a 20m cash stack and had a debate, money make and save for santa, or spend it on prayer... I went with prayer

Great video one thing you should have done was do a comparison of the prices you used for fury/guthans etc. 1mill back in 2005 is about the equivalent to about 25mill on osrs right now (you have to remember the amount of gold currently in osrs is like 1000x more than there was back in 2005

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

Great point! :D

I can remember in roughly 2006 I bought 10m gp on my main, tried the fight caves in full gilded with a dragon longsword and was swiftly banned for rwt 😂 lesson learned very fast!

My RS3 account was made in 2005 and it's long since maxed but I still don't have a fire cape. An individual whose name is still in the credits for tip.it's Fight Caves guide was my friend at the time and I was a child basking in their infinite wisdom and skill, it seriously felt that way. Now we can feel that Jad is relatively simple - but how great it was when everything was a mystery, and your friend at school that day would eagerly talk during recess as he'd just discovered something you've never seen before! It all felt so new and fresh and I'd waste my single hour of RuneScape time a day (thanks mum but i still didnt get homework done lol) running blindly around areas or asking people solely about stuff they did in the game and the money they made. Everyone above a certain status felt like a celebrity and when you stumbled across a group of players who talked to each other regularly, it really felt like a community.

"You'd be paying at least 9-10m" I sold a Guth helm for 9m around that time

When I was doing my first fire cape last week I asked opera's ai for some advice and got stuff i already knew, however it also lied to me and told me jad had a special attack, didn't know it was an old rumor

wait, you can move the camera without the arrow keys?

So... He wasn't actually a cheater? It was just a safe spot :/

Idk why I remember this buy Guthans was exactly 13m at this time. I remember not even knowing about how Jad swapped attack styles and tried to brute force it with guthans LOL

Back in 2005/2006 there was a a pure that managed to get his fire cape at lvl46. Happens all the time now, but back then people were flabbergasted that this guy managed to do it without full guthans. Things were much more simple back then, good times.

This is exactly how I got my fire cape back then. I tried every rumored method, including the ring of stone and of course nothing worked, until I found Chris's post. I had my cape just a few hours later.

@jfesta6

Жыл бұрын

*my* post, not chris. XD

@sdksniper

Жыл бұрын

@@jfesta6 no shit? Damn, so long ago I can’t remember. We are old now 😆

@jfesta6

Жыл бұрын

@@sdksniper Yes sir! We sure are ahaha! Colonelo found me on reddit and interviewed me for this. So cool! I had no idea at the time he was such a big youtuber!

@jfesta6

Жыл бұрын

@@sdksniper Glad my info was able to help you get it! I thought it was the right thing to do to let everybody else know the the safe spot tactic, since testing it got me mine as well. Getting the second fire cape in the game is still a great memory for me ahaha.

@sdksniper

Жыл бұрын

@@jfesta6 brother that is awesome. And yes it did help tremendously. Such an awesome trip down memory lane. Thank you man 🙏

Love the editing

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!! :D

Brings back so much memory

What is the song 7.16 ? :D Nostalgic af!

Actually one thing with 'what Jad uses at the start' when he spawns, if you are at a distance, he will always use a Ranged attack first and then at random, what the post claims. In the same post you showed he also mentions he also uses all 3 styles of combat, but what he's implying there is the very first attack he does when he spawns, before going all random. Am not sure, if this is a weird case of Deja Vu, but I remember that being the case mentioning it even on older guides.

@ColonelloRS

Жыл бұрын

Interesting! I appreciate the insight. :)

@xlxalm

Жыл бұрын

almost positive Jad attacked randomly, it was not a guaranteed range attack. But it's also been so many years so could be misremembering.

So i have some information to add to this story! Chrisaki was actually a Women - lived with my mates mum for a short while when i was younger, Had a few very high level accounts and the Clan was actually Demonic Empire! Now, She definitely had access to the account, but as with alot of clans back then alot of accounts were shared - so she might not have been the actual player to do the cave or original owner but did frequently use the account She gifted me an Obby set (Cape + Shield) and full rune on my very noobish account and showed me how to get Klank's gauntlets which were BiS at the time.

Remember way back I saved everything for 2 years cause I wanted a Santa at 8m. I went on vacation with my fam at 5m and came back and the Santa was 60m lol. The rest was history

@Keith-qm4nt

Жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to me. I had like 9m and wanted to buy a rare and Green H'weens were the cheapest, going for 13m. So, I just needed a little bit more money and was working on it, and within a week, Green H'weens rocketed up to 117M each. Needless to say, I didn't get my ween lol.

Dude. When you said that bit about gear prices vs phat...I literally sold a purple phat for 25m to get guthans/dharoks back then🤦‍♂️ 😅

7:15 does anyone know the song? I'm asking for a friend.

shout out to tip it. this website helped so much in everything back in the day

Man it's been about a year since I last logged in, guess this weekend I should reboot my account and give my fire cape a few more go's

I got my first cape with MSB and rune arrows lol. Then after I could afford the 900k first recharge of a crystal bow when I got it, was when I started using that.

holy shit lmao I can't believe we used to play this game and could only turn the camera with arrowkeys wtf ahaha

I was about to say connection issue but you mentioned it. I was playing 07 rs and was ready for Jad but parents internet was terrible and would randomly disconnect every hour. Fight cave was 3 hours long. Never did it.

Remember not too long later trying to work things out through Rune HQ and Zybez. Good times

I miss the days when a set of barrows and a whip was peak aesthetic

chrisaki was a underated legend.

Hold up. You can log off mid jad now?! That's wild lol