RuneScape’s Most Hated Weapon Is Now Useless (OSRS)
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Old School RuneScape's most hated weapon was forced into the game by Jagex after it failed MULTIPLE polls. But why is it completely useless in RuneScape today? Lets find out!
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That mod Mat K clip will never not make me laugh lmao
@yosiahw4305
Жыл бұрын
Mod Mat K and the K stands for kids.
@Leymora
Жыл бұрын
"Bit of technique there as well..."
@MusicalRadiation
Жыл бұрын
@@TimmyRayField Linguist here. Sometimes people use double negatives in this way to express a semantical meaning to emphasize the meaning. While you're not wrong, the original poster isn't wrong either.
@medea27
Жыл бұрын
@@MusicalRadiation 👍 One could say, it's _not uncommon_ to find the very people schooling others about grammar in KZread comments to be in need of schooling themselves... so I _wasn't unhappy_ to find a linguist explaining how double negatives are used in the English language. 😉
@Aeronizor
Жыл бұрын
Shift anti-drag GOAT lol if I dont have that turned on I will also accidently drag things and not drop them
VLS spec doesn't hit more often on higher defence, it uses 25% of the defence roll that's usually used.
@ColonelloRS
Жыл бұрын
Shoot! I mis-read the Wiki completely on that portion. I'll add a correction to the pinned comment
@eprimchad2576
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like it would hit more often on someone with high def if it only uses 25% of their roll.
@liger04
Жыл бұрын
@@eprimchad2576 It's a different reading of the same phrase. It hits *more often than other weapons* against enemies with high defense, but it is not more accurate against enemies with high defense than it is against enemies with low defense.
@bootykraken7177
Жыл бұрын
@@ColonelloRS wheres that pinned comment boi
@literatemax
Жыл бұрын
@@ColonelloRS what pinned comment
VLS allows 4 specs, or 1 spec + a gmaul spec, into another spec. Its also a much more viable "whack" weapon switch after you're out of spec, and you're getting a spec chance back quicker. AGS+Gmaul is always the king of combo max damage. But its far less consistent.
@matthewmccoy7437
Жыл бұрын
the king of inconsistent but ridiculous amounts of damage will forever be 1hp dharok bombs into g maul lmao. one time i was going to mage bank and some dude was sitting under the wildy lever and smacked me for a 32 g mail into a 57 bomb to the back of the neck. i couldn’t even be mad that shit was so sudden i burst out laughing.
@negantwd6452
Жыл бұрын
this comment literally makes no sense. have u even seen a pvp world besides from a pk vid?
I'll always remember getting a corrupted vls in 2011, accidentally equipping it and losing 9m
@bretclaar1663
Жыл бұрын
Classic move haha
The special attack doesnt roll higher on higher defence. It ignores 75% of the opponents defence. Nice video though otherwise!
@ColonelloRS
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Correction added in pinned comment :)
@IAmAlteringTheDeal
Жыл бұрын
@@ColonelloRS It isn’t pinned btw
@coomr419
Жыл бұрын
That's crazy
@gnarlynicholasreviews
Жыл бұрын
@@ColonelloRS you didn’t pin it.
@Fucyocouch
Жыл бұрын
@@ColonelloRS still not pinned…. maybe he’s busy heating up factor meals in the microwave.
"We keep polling it until it passes, and if it doesn't we just push it through anyway." -European Runescape Union.
@cryfargamingnanan4772
Жыл бұрын
qq
@Validity_TN
Жыл бұрын
Yeah bc vls needs to be in the game, only salty pvm'ers vote against it
@ownage11445
Жыл бұрын
@@Validity_TNI am a pvmer and I believe it should be in the game. In actuality it was the pkers who were sabotaging their own content polls.
@screamified409
Жыл бұрын
This is so true lol. Europe is fucked
@MagicHjalti
Жыл бұрын
Based
They tried to fill the same niche with the Osmumten’s Fang, and surprise surprise it has to be nerfed too
I have honestly wondered so much about exactly what the VLS was all about
I think what most PvMers wants with RuneScape is to disable PvP in the wilderness so they can PvM.
@user-bz6gh5ng2m
Жыл бұрын
nah, that removes most of the challenge from the wildy bosses
@gatorbait9385
Жыл бұрын
I'd rather it stay the way it is than do what RS3 did. I'm rs3 you can go into wildly without worrying about getting pk'd. But monsters spawn on you... So skillers have trouble
@AsianRailgun
Жыл бұрын
@@gatorbait9385 That monster spawning system got removed already.
@Erowens98
9 күн бұрын
That doesn't sound very oldschool. I think completely separating PVM from PVP goes against the spirit of the game. Also, usually when MMOs do that the PVP community usually dies.
Lot of ppl and myself use to use it less as a KO weapon and more something to drain hp because of it's accuracy or as a first/after spec weapon as far as the OG vls. It was pretty OP back in the day, lot of people hated it then also.
@gabriel-5369
Жыл бұрын
I feel its the same way ostmumen fang and the ancient godsword is used. Accurate hits meant to just drain supplies with guaranteed damage. We know claws and ags can hit you 80, but on tribrid fights its a lot of outlasting
I'm _still_ laughing at that "power-mining" clip & I don't even play RS! 👌🤣
Vesta's longsword has a special attack, Feint, that consumes 25% of the player's special attack energy and deals between 20% and 120% of the user's max hit, with the accuracy of this attack rolled against 25% of the opponent's defence. This is the special attack from the wiki. To me that sounds like opponents def being higher doesnt make it hit more. That just sounds counter intuitive.
@devinracelis8392
Жыл бұрын
“The accuracy of this attack rolled against 25% of the opponent’s defense” If your opponent has +100 Defense bonus, the special attack will roll against a +25 bonus instead. It sounds like you’d hit more because you’re more accurate
@shinobuoshino5066
6 ай бұрын
@@devinracelis8392 average runescape player skill issue in reading as always.
@fallendeus5641
6 ай бұрын
@@devinracelis8392 that doesnt make it hit more BECAUSE they have more defense... that is what they are saying. It's accuracy doesnt scale UP against opponents with higher defense, it scales DOWN the defense for the roll.
Man I would love to see them bring back bounty hunter craters,that was be so sweet,that shit was soo much fun
@kevinnorville2097
Жыл бұрын
I’d come back after a 2 year layoff for this
@jomamma349jo4
Жыл бұрын
First of guthix please
@jomamma349jo4
Жыл бұрын
@Aires bring back both?
@l0lan00b3
Жыл бұрын
Still agree 100%
@shinji1264
Жыл бұрын
If fog and craters came back with good rewards I might actually play again
Wasn't the original Bounty Hunter that one like crater in the wildy that resembled the tzhaar pit? Edit: Oh shit yeah, I did not think it was all the way back in 2007 that that version came into play... makes sense tho because it was their response to the free trade and wilderness madness.
8:00 This had already been happening for years long before the wildy remake. Dihn's Bulwark is the first thing I remember failing poles that they just added in anyways. That was in 2017. Which I didn't mind at the time because I wanted the big two hand shield for the luls, was sad when it failed but then surprised to see it added anyways. I voted for it to pass and it failed, I remember being sad when I saw it didn't pass. But then I seen them do it more and more, I expected them to just change the Abyssal Dagger even though it polled and failed 3 times as they've done it multiple times with tonnes of stuff. I'm sure there are plenty of other instances even before that, it's just the first I noticed.
You misunderstood the 2 variants. The corrupt vls was basically a slightly weaker vls (4 less str) that only req 25 attack to equip but only lasted 15 minutes, a weapon obviously intended for pure accounts, the corrupt armors were the same deal. The non corrupt lasted an hour but had a special attack and required 78 attack to equip. The corrupt swh and vls we're used as ko weapons as they had insane stats but only req 25 attack to equip
do you think theyll save BH worlds (target world) or is it dead for good?
I laughed so hard at Mod Matt K trying to power mine. Just slightly dragging all of them like wtfs going on here
@MmeHyraelle
Жыл бұрын
Lmao i often fail the same way. *noob*
VLS and Torva armour combo, thats why the ts youtuber Torvesta got his name from
I feel like everyone forgot about osmumten’s fang
@ColonelloRS
Жыл бұрын
Maybe I'll do a video on that in the future. Its had so many changes in such a short amount of time
@bombsgamer
Жыл бұрын
@@ColonelloRS would probably be a worthwhile subject
I would like to see fist of guthix return.
The poll restriction wasn’t only for people who had gotten a pk in the last three months, it also included anyone that had even 1 game of lms played in that time… so many 1200 total ironmen were able to vote on that poll lmao.
@TheKingreiko
Жыл бұрын
ironmen are the reason osrs is shit. >:(((((
@lukienman
Жыл бұрын
@@TheKingreiko mains are the reason bots exist and osrs economy is a dumpster fire
@TheKingreiko
Жыл бұрын
@@lukienman yeah I'm just taking the piss out of the guy classically blaming Ironmen for everything.
@viltautasYT
Жыл бұрын
lms isnt a pvp update change my fking mind
@liltroglodyte5830
Жыл бұрын
@@TheKingreiko you can cry all you want but what I said is objectively true
Lol that meme at 10:45 is so true. As a tank ranger I straight up quit pvp. Every time range gets anything good it gets nerfed in a week. RIP void, blowpipe, and handcannon
@williamsussman7343
Жыл бұрын
@@brandonnazelrodt2819 actually I risk 0k because I don’t play 😀
@TheVanillaGorilla913
Жыл бұрын
No shit, rangers can't get anything decently powerful and if it's worth a damn, it costs an outrageous amount of Gold
I wonder how op the vls would actually be if it was allowed in the main game. I would be interested to see how useful it would actually be at bosses and stuff.
@timmyopally
Жыл бұрын
Like if it rolled to hit twice??
@ritzylumms3427
Жыл бұрын
Like u have double the chance to not hit a 0?
@chrismarzocchi8723
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much what fang is
@timmyopally
Жыл бұрын
@@chrismarzocchi8723 haha that's the joke
On RS3 this weapon was massive for pvm and was used until less than a year ago. People still use it but it's not your bis switch for melee anymore. Just shows how relevant it stayed for years. It was used, and can still be used, for some records.
@ChronoSquare
Жыл бұрын
I play rs3 and while I haven't been pvming much in the last few years, you are the first time I've ever heard this weapon mentioned
@FirestormDDash
Жыл бұрын
@@ChronoSquare not for me. But since I played since 2008 I did catch its name a few times. Goes to show. So much items can go missed in such a large item library like runescape.
You can't blame Jed for Jagex not rebalancing loot drops 🤣
The Korasi sword was more OP than the VLS
@samlung2724
Жыл бұрын
Then we should combine them. The Vesta Korasi sword
@fredohonius
Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. Fuck the Korasi sword for real.
It's just Vesta's Longsword Saying 'The' beforehand is like saying The Colonello's KZread channel, or The Kyle's car.
@skeven0
Жыл бұрын
The Torvesta youtube channel, oh wait
You guys didn't play when og bh world's where around? Vls always was a dps replacement for a whips. SWH and maismic where the good items. Swh hits much higher than vls amd lowers defence so you can dominate the rest of the fight, maismic was straight up higher lol spell than ice barrage so make it good
Great vid!
That courage reference absolutely killed me 😭🤣
This video has an insane amount of midroll ads dude I'm 8 minutes in and have seen 3 so far
Loving the HDOS clips 😊
Nice video bro Been watching you for a while
@ColonelloRS
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D
Do I see the HDOS client in here? Love it!
Wasn't the original bounty hinter before the wildy one? It was deep in windy and you would enter a bounty hunter pit where you would have a skull colour based on your carried wealth. Once you killed someone you were on a timer and couldn't leave. You'd still be given a target but it got crazy. People would sit inside grouped. You'd go looking for your target and find a war instead.
@AdamOwenBrowning
Жыл бұрын
Yep! It was sort of functionally similar to what was described in the video though. Jagex took BH offline and back online again 3-4 times so it's hard to remember. I was also like 13 years old - but I do remember that volcano getting repurposed for BH before it was setup closer to Edgeville
@thundergunknivesout4329
6 ай бұрын
I think it was called fist of guthix
these sets are so cool, i wish they only would do it less op so we could use it as fashionscape
Did you get them clips on HDOS? it’s looking dope 🤤🤤 08 HD was the pinnacle of RS graphics, if only they made old school with that style but with the improvements of todays tech 🤯😅😂 Edit: VLS should be useable in normal worlds just like a whip or dds or ags. Always thought limiting it to bounty/pvp worlds was stupid, especially with the cost of it. In fact they should remove PVP worlds altogether so you have to go into the wild to pk. All the edge ditch huggers just went to G.E PVP worlds and it killed pking a bit tbh. Wildy rework + removal of PVP worlds + make VLS useable everywhere on every world + improved 08 HD style gfx, even the website layout from back then cos the one now is bleak and that’s perfect 👌🏼
@Krispybuttz
Жыл бұрын
The 08 character models and animations were fucking terrible keep that shit out of osrs
the power mine comment broke me for 10 mins straight.. because thats how i play osrs in general.
From a non-player (I mean I played a bit during the days when old school was just school), why would this thing being usable on NPCs be bad? As in, what would specifically be the problem?
@biggiesmalls7939
Жыл бұрын
Pvm'ers in osrs right now are whiny as hell. They don't want their current gear to not be the meta set
I wanna see handcannons make a come back
I’m sorry that clip of Mod Mat K fucking killed me
I burned through about 10 vls's back in 2009, it was absolutely beast back then, even people sporting elysian/divine got deleted by it.
I csnt believe they brought the freaking korasi sword back.
I like how I got an ad in the middle of an ad
just bring back bounty hunter 1, there were at most 100bots at a time... bh2was a disaster, 1/10targets was a pker... now having an account build with lower than 60cb has no meaning at all(except in f2p) if you want to pk you need a max pure/zerk/main or youll always be at a disadvantage, cquse everyone else is maxed, noone makes new pking builds, becuz theres literally noone to fight, bh2 brought in new people to pvp, becuz it takes les than 20hours to make a strong pvp build ane have fun, but now you have to max str/magic/range just to try to learn pvp... lms has always had bots but it didnt get removed? jagex is determined to kill pvp, i think bh removal proves it... there were atleast ~80 people below 60cmbt on at all times, now if youre lucky there might be 1 or 2, so atleast for me, jagex completly killed the resson i play this gans
@Tharendel
Жыл бұрын
And to add to that I feel like there’s more bots at lms than bh worlds ever had, at least the bots in bh worlds only messed with each other, instead of ruining your experience with insta 1 tick switches and insane movement
@lowbottomkowezus
Жыл бұрын
I came back to runescape after like 6 years because mobile/bh.. Made 5 accounts all members... For nothing.. Thank you jagex
@viltautasYT
Жыл бұрын
@@Tharendel ikr...
@jaredh2341
Жыл бұрын
@@Tharendel That turned me off to pvp bc i tried lms and the bots were like terminator. Those bots arent there anymore most the bots now are dumb and beatable as pvmer I've actually been having a lot of fun playing lms recently. Base lms rank is 500 i went down to like 150 bc those terminator bots now im at 1500 because its actually normal players playing the game.
@azoniarnl3362
Жыл бұрын
I stopped a few years ago but I mostly did low lvl pking when I got online sometime just because it was low risk, low intensity fighting. Nowadays I just cant keep up anymore :/
Vls looks like the sword on rs's login page
That video of Mod Mat K powermining 😂
"I think we all know why it was turned into a money printer" Me who has never played runescape and has only started watching this dude videos today for some reason: "ah yes I know why. 🤣
9:24 so actually Matt K invented anti drag protection... lol
I remember in OG old school that Vesta, Statius, and Morrigan were absolutely broken
@Silamon2
Жыл бұрын
I bought the full Vesta set back in the day just because it looked cool. I used it a little in clan wars but mostly just used it as cosmetic. It was really overpowered... better defense than barrows on statius, and better str bonus than bandos while still having comparable defense to barrows on vesta...
They wanted to add something that prevent tanking. But yeah, weapon that is better when opponent is better is strange.
@shinobuoshino5066
6 ай бұрын
it's still better to wear high defense armor than low one for the times that it does fail. BIS strength gear has very high defense bonuses anyway.
The VLS will be released again once they release the zombie minigame.
We not gonna talk about that bluerite defender?
Fast forward and yup they are trying to slowly but surely introduce VLS into the main game. We are frogs being boiled alive
@Colonello I was there and playing back when VLS was 'new' in rs2. I got to use it plenty then and it was a staple in my setup for a long time. What people seem to not realize, is the VLS was the next evolution in top tier at the time, much like how WoW or SWTOR and even Destiny 2 all bump up the level limits and item creep. Thing is, since OSRS came out we have had the game go in a different direction without the VLS, with things like torva/inquisitors/justi/dhins and so on that never existed before. I think trying to force the VLS into the game now just doesnt fit with how things are today. Weapon added to a different game, for a different meta. Since it already exists, the only real solution is to absolutely gut the thing by making its spec 55% energy use. The most overwhelming thing about it was the 4 super hard hitting attacks back to back or 2 into a gmaul/claws sort of thing. Taking that away lets it exist as a niche item while still probably upsetting pretty much everyone. Nobody wins!
@TheVanillaGorilla913
Жыл бұрын
Leon for President
9:24 killed me LOL
I know this didn't go well, but I do think the polling is now counter productive to the growth and wellbeing of the game.
@victorbressler7156
Жыл бұрын
it is
@ikillstupidcomments
22 күн бұрын
Go back to RS3.
Imagine a twisted bow just getting deleted out of your inventory
I remember it being super overpowered when somebody would just spec a 45 four times in a row back to back and there is literally nothing you could do that I will eat it at the time.
Wish they'd put dungeoneering in without asking anybody and apologizing to absolutely nobody.
@TheVanillaGorilla913
Жыл бұрын
I'll never forgive them for that Cancer
@JohnFromAccounting
Жыл бұрын
CoX is dungeoneering but less fun.
@AdamOwenBrowning
Жыл бұрын
As someone who mindlessly solo'd dungeoneering at release where you got severely punished for running solo... I'm game. I got 70smth before they patched solo xp rates to not be ballcrushingly low.
@shinobuoshino5066
6 ай бұрын
just do corrupted gauntlet bro
@ikillstupidcomments
22 күн бұрын
Go back to RS3.
Osmumten's fang is more accurate and easier to get for pking. Did you check it out before praising Vls bro?
whats that movie at 1:10
@ColonelloRS
Жыл бұрын
The Hangover
I miss using my vls!
WHEN do we get the BH BACK! xD. It takes ages. Geezus
When are they going to release the sword that’s actually on the game title itself
@TheVanillaGorilla913
Жыл бұрын
That makes too much sense, which is not in Jagex's usual bag of tricks. They'd rather do shit that makes no sense, pisses off the entire community or crashes the game and say oops
i remember selling vesta LS's for like 80-100m during their peak
The best era of RuneScape was right before the EOC came out. I'd love to see it get back to that stage
@Jatt1017
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@SamLoki
Жыл бұрын
Turmoil and Soulsplit flashing was why I loved doing anything PVM
@mertz313
Жыл бұрын
Same. I want summoning and soul split back 😭
@Thor-cx4pk
Жыл бұрын
@@SamLoki soul split made the game way to easy lol.
@FirestormDDash
Жыл бұрын
@@mertz313 At least to get your fix, you can just play rs3 in legacy combat mode. Get the new with the feel of the old. Turn on legacy interface and buy some replica plate armor, peak rs2.
bruhhhhh, I forgot about this
KZread getting brave with these two ads.
@resto4life
18 күн бұрын
Sad how many people don't have youtube premium
Literally never heard of nor seen this weapon before.
@TheVanillaGorilla913
Жыл бұрын
Be grateful. One of the most hated and unbalanced weapons ever created on RS
Out of all the things to force, they didn’t pick the new skill warding?!
Bro isn’t the VLS in LMS?
I miss varrock wild days before the ditch 2005
Honestly if they want something to pass they can just say "Should we *not* add this thing?" 65% yes, we should not-add it? Didn't pass, we gotta add it!
I don't even play or care to play and yet I still watch this lol
Maybe one day osrs Mobile will get a update to make it work again " a man sobs in the corner"
Instead of that, give us sailing!
Sorry for the random question, but…how do you manage your Reddit channel and this one? It’s 2 very different channels and honestly your heart is more in this one than the other one. 😂 Do you hire people to find you daily stories while you focus on the research for this one, or what?
@ColonelloRS
Жыл бұрын
I have an editor for the Reddit channel, and sometimes someone edits my voiceover recordings on this channel, but other than that I do everything myself for all of my channels :)
@guitarbass22
Жыл бұрын
@@ColonelloRS That is some serious talent! I highly commend you and am glad to follow both channels! Keep it up!
I wish they'd repoll things like sailing instead
Launch VLS was disgusting. Only those who were there for it will remember getting 40’d through prayer, while eating, repeatedly till dead.
Vls sounds a ton like osmumten's fang.
That’s how the pvp vote was suppose to work, a lot of people who just did lms were able to vote on that pole as well. Sae bae talked about that as well. I always thought it would be cool to see the meta change and wr kill speeds change on monsters and pvmers needing a pvp wep to do it
This video aged well
Bounty hunter was some of the most fun i've had on RS and I consider myself a pvmer
My rs3 account: so we finally got rid of pvp and now a massive slayer hunting ground.
Whether it was wrong or not to do i fkin loved vls pking so much
The most recent vls polls only lost by under 5%
>implying the most hated weapon isn't the dwarf cannon ICANT
I think they should add the vls, but not unchecked. They need a solid counter to it that's equally as hard to unlock so players who aren't pkers can counter the meta
@IQuickscopeCA
Жыл бұрын
It's called dihns. Needs to be removed or autodropped to killer on death. You should have to fight or run in the wilderness not equip shield and do nothing
@blanketfux
Жыл бұрын
@@IQuickscopeCA the vls rolls of defense. So if you have a dhins on, you are making the vls stronger against yourself...
@IQuickscopeCA
Жыл бұрын
@@blanketfux no that's not how it works, the sword rolls against 25% of your defence. +100 slash defence = +25 for clarity. So if you put on a shield that has more slash defence, it would still make you more defensive.
and then came in the Osmumten's fang
I already don't touch PKing. This would, or does, just give me more reason not to!
7:07-7:23 "I took the wokkkkkk to poland"
Truck-un Isekai-ed Runescape! 2:45
I still don't play this game yet these videos are just interesting to listen to lol
What was the point of polls again? wasn't 07 built on the promise of player's choice?
Well this was one of the showings Jagex literally goes against the polling system and they started doing that for a while after and still do :P we need a poll to say they cant just add whatever the fuck they want :P unless its the most integrity change needed possible :P
"Long before oldschool" what? Wtf!?!!
@FirestormDDash
Жыл бұрын
Rs2 and rs3 was out before osrs youngin.
"Oh he's gonna talk about fang nerf" "Weapon is too accurate" "Yep, Fang." "VLS" You what?
Me who hasn't played Runescape in 15 years: Yes, interesting