Why Most Street Photography Today Looks The Same
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Is it just me or does most street photography today look the same? While this isn't a blanket rule across street photography, more and more I see the same photos on my newsfeed - I'm definitely guilty of following trends but I would like to give some insight on how to choose a different direction. Using photo books over watching TikToks is a great way to start 👍
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Totally agree. So much modern street photography feels polished and soulless. It’s like browsing the wall art at ikea.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That is such a good comparison 😅 I always think like hotel wall art! Weirdly though it's what a lot of people want to hang on their wall which hurts my brain
@TheJ_G
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeHolden Ikea/Hotel wall art serves a purpose. Its about serving the room as a whole vs being a piece of art to build a conversation around. It’s suppose to be passively enjoyed without much thought. Sort of visual eye candy that isn’t particularly filling, but also inoffensive to most people while tying the room together. Good street photography, I’d argue, isn’t really a passive art form. It should inspire a longer gaze. It should stand on its own. It should inspire thought, and tell a story in a single frame. Anyhow… I’ve rambled long enough. Ha. I enjoyed this video. I’m subbed. Looking forward to more of your work!
@MrGohunter
11 ай бұрын
@@TheJ_G I always think of hotel/Ikea wall art as being the visual equivalent of elevator music. It's filling a void. Breaking up the monotony of silence in the case of the elevator music and breaking up the monotony of boring, blank walls in the case of wall art.
@shaggyfeng9110
11 ай бұрын
Wall art at IKEA, perfect comparison.
@theipon6396
5 ай бұрын
And this is why I shoot film, it feels more real
When you compared examples of boring instagram photos with classic photo books it became clear that boring photos lack any kind of storytelling. What makes the viewer linger on a great photo is that "something is happening" and the viewer has to figure it out.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
The difference is clear as day really isn't it? Makes you then look at your own photos in a different light too
@max_coast
Жыл бұрын
100% . I've got a few photo books (I'm not a photographer) and I've definitely gravitated towards either a unique theme I'm particularly drawn towards or shots with people that have a unique charm and honesty about life that makes me wonder what's going on, or about to happen, etc.
Many years ago, I had a fantastic music teacher who helped me to understand the difference between ‘playing the spots’ and making music. Something could be technically perfect but have no life in it. It was one of those breakthrough moments and has effected my professional and artistic life in so many ways. Thank you for sharing this video and reminding me of that idea.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
I really like that, it makes you remember your favourite pieces of music and the emotion or memory associated with it; not often that you really focus on the technical ability
To me, street photography really needs people in it. The majority of the examples you showed at the beginning of your video were cityscapes, streetscapes or architectural photos. Street photography in the past was a record of how people looked, acted and interacted. You are right that it is the authenticity of random street subjects that really makes the picture. People starting off in street photography are understandably nervous about the reaction they might get from subjects in the street. I find that using a small discrete camera helps, I use the Fuji X100s for much of my street photography. Get out there, get practiced and shoot......
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
I think you've described the journey a lot of us go on, I have been chasing the smaller cameras to minimise attracting attention but already feel myself wanting to lean into bigger bodies and just own it 😅 mainly from recently engaging with more people on the street while using a film SLR
@Raist3db
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeHolden Oh man. I have been one small camera guy. I wonder sometimes what could happen if they see me with a bigger camera? I still like small for not just the candid advantage but just "wearing it" and not feeling it.
@TheWutangclan1995
Жыл бұрын
I remember watching a video of Joel Meyorwitz saying street photography today has lost its sexiness because of phones. I do agree but I also think todays day and age is the greatest opportunity to document people. We’re all so glued to our phones, distracted, and it makes me think of the video of Bruce Gilden flashing people where they’re surprised they got flash. I think we can offer a greater contrast to the street photographs of the past. As we can show how far society has advanced and how anti social things are now vs before when people were Sociable.
@lsamoa
Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. A lot of great street photography shot throughout history has had no people in it but focused on the traces left behind by people, for example. There aren't really any such rules, just preferences. The only real rule is indeed to go out there and work on your craft.
@kosmidts
Жыл бұрын
Nope! Streetphotography is shooting in the moment and could be anything. Random shooting people isn’t street photography!! That is what i see on YT. Shooting rolls of film with boring people…
Couldn’t agree more! I feel social media is killing creativity. I’ve had to stop myself a few times and ask myself if I am taking my photo or someone else’s photo unconsciously.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
At first you think you're talking worse photos when you stop emulating but it's just because you're doing something different that doesn't line up alongside what you already think of as "good"
@jimmaherphotography6245
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeHolden absolutely! Part of the reason I’m shooting more film again these days, it’s stripped away all the technical wizardry back to barebones, which allows me to concentrate on just taking photos. And due to it being analog, I’m not automatically comparing it to the other millions of digital images on Instagram. In turn allowing me to be more personally creative
My wife always says: don't take photos, everything is already there, concentrate on what you see and experience.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
I like that a lot!
@amanselamat
Жыл бұрын
❤
@kiwipics
Жыл бұрын
Why not take photos, as they are memories for when you have no recollection of that point in time.
@d.cassarino
Жыл бұрын
Your wife in definitely a keeper ❤
@sythanh14
Жыл бұрын
@@kiwipics don't live in the past
I really appreciate your insight. Something I like to say is "Don't force the composition, let the scene reveal itself to you". Great video! Keep shooting and stay inspired!
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Greg! Love that saying as well, you too!
I think the issue is that we are seeing more images than ever before. Photographers from 20 years ago were competing against a small number of other photographers and the way to get your images viewed was to print a book. Where now we are seeing hundreds of images every day.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
This is true!
I’m impressed how much people with cameras today use the back screen instead of the viewfinder, it is like using your camera as a cellphone. Why is that? I miss the time when people used to use a camera as an actual camera.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
I think the benefits are real, especially with autofocus and quick menus they're useful!
I have the same thoughts with you, George. Sometimes I dont force myself to take pictures and just concentrate myself into the environment where I am in. And to "feel" the surroundings. To me the most important thing is to understand the place and the surroundings help to make better shots.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I can relate with that sense of feeling your surroundings too
I feel like most street photography nowadays is more some sort of architecture or urban scene photography. When I started with photography I aswell focused a lot on buildings and interesting streets but the more I shot the more bored I got by these kind of subjects because like you said in the video it's all been done before. That's why I now focus much more on situations and interactions between people or interesting looking individuals on the streets. These situations are unique and can't be replicated by anyone else.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, couldn't agree more!
@KevinNordstrom
Жыл бұрын
It's 2023. Everything and every place has been fully photographed. Other than space and the ocean.
Your commentary really resonates with me, made me think about the enjoyment within street photography, thanks for a great video 👍🏻
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Could not agree more. Interestingly while watching this, I started to to think about a technique I have used in gig photography using long exposure techniques, and how the same techniques and ideas might work for street captures. Good video. Subbed.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and glad it got you thinking! Appreciate the sub, and good luck with the new technique!
You do such a great job of presenting the ideas in this video, even though there aren't really any totally new concepts. Great video! Very inspiring.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! There are no unique messages, only unique messengers 👍
love your channel george. you have some great insights and really puts ideas in my head that I haven't thought about..
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Happy to help 🙏
I hate watch a lotta YT content but every once in a while I'm surprised and this vid's one of those times. You're 100% bang-on.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That's awesome to hear, thank you 🙏
I’ve definitely felt like this before where street photography just feels like copy and paste nowadays so knowing i’m not the only one feels refreshing i guess
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I think it's hard to explain for me but I wanna dive more into this as I learn my way through. Thanks for watching 🙏
Great points. Ive always leaned towards these hacks which i thought were really overused and i tend to overlook what i really wanted to take photos of: the interaction of people with others, himself, or his surroundings.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
George, hope you're having a nice day, love the simple editing, and I couldn't agree with you more on this subject! Every single short video on "aspiring photographer tips & tricks" that I see in my feed is promoting the same technique that consist of reflections, leading lines, low angle, or the rule of thirds. While these are surely time tested and justified techniques, it is absolutely flattening my mind to comprehend that some of the newer generation of photographers' photos consist only of those things and not much creativity is put into their photos. As for the aforementioned photo books, this is where photography shines, in my opinion, so it's strange not a single "photography tips influencer" seems to talk about putting in emotional value in photos, or changing the viewers perspective, so that it's not something that we see in our feed every day.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yes I completely agree and as someone who shares videos online, those ideas have appeared in my own notes, but I pull myself away and try to think a little harder. These days I'm staying away from short form or tutorials, instead taking more photos for myself
such an enlightening speech! Love your thoughts, thanks a LOT
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching!
You are correct. Even with editing, I try to mimic popular styles. Mainly cuz people seem to like them and the persons with “those” compositions and editing techniques are already making a living off their photos. So it’s why it’s easy to fall into the trap of mimicking them. Overall, good eye opening advice.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes I think digital editing might be our worst enemy 😂
@cherylandsimon
Жыл бұрын
only a couple of people are "making a living" from street photography... seriously - you are aspiring to something that doesn't exist.
@KevinNordstrom
Жыл бұрын
@@cherylandsimon for real. Want to make a living with your camera? Do event and wedding photography.
Love it! I recently travelled to Spain; took a lot of the required (same ol’, same ol’) landmark pics to capture and remember their beauty. But what I really enjoyed was capturing the people, their faces and bodies, but also what they were doing: workers, servers in tapas bars, cooks at restaurants or cleaning crews; people buzzing along the streets of Madrid, Sevilla, Granada… wondering if they were Spanish, or immigrants or other tourists like me. Things that caught my eye, that sparked my curiosity, that tugged at my heart. Street photography, I am discovering, is a great art form, and also a means of ongoing self discovery … and of self affirmation. Keep up your insightful takes on photography.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, I have a trip coming up next month and hope to try focus myself more away from my previous same ol', same ol' shots. Take care 👍
This is such great advice and a great take on trendy photos
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Well this is fantastic, couldn't agree more. Nicely done mate.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thank you mate, appreciate it 🙏
You are very good, sensitive and throughful and very often funny. Keep the good work.
Wonderful perspective!
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video George. I completely agree, when the techniques used to take a photo (e.g. reflections/ perfect symmetry / the colour grade) is what makes it interesting, they very quickly get stale and boring. I do feel like there is a trend towards people wanting to take photos of interesting subjects and compositions instead of TikTok style bangers.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, James! It feels like it's a natural evolution for everyone at their own pace, there are only so many times you can edit and export the same images. Hopefully, we see that trend toward interesting subjects more and more soon.
I don’t go out with my camera to get good shots. I go out to enjoy looking at the world through the lens. If I get a good shot, that’s an added bonus. Not unlike fishing :)
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic to hear, thanks for watching!
George, this. Was. Awesome. I thank you for your clear, honest und so correct view on things. I found myself here listening with mouth open because I was on that exact same wrong track.. I wanted to "create" what everyone does out there. And: do you notice how bored all these "photographers" show what they are doing?! THANK YOU SO MUCH. AGAIN.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And yes agreed, the photography content trap I think is what burns out many of us
Excelent video. I can relate. Big time...
Well done George 👏 Spot on.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve!
Absolutely agree … Instagram is killing photography … how hypsters are just copying the same scene and trick is pure misery and sick ~
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Sadly it's the same formula issue we saw with filmmaking and KZread, slow-mo 85mm b-roll everywhere 😂
Thank you. I was beginning to think that it was just me. Street photography online just seems to be a regurgitation of old ideas. When I see something original I tend to want to tell people as if I've found a rare stamp or something similar. I'm also tending to fall into the view that age makes even average images better. Who knows. Thanks again for that.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic to hear, thanks for watching!
Brilliant! Well said!!!!
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Very, very interesting that you talk about trusting your gut feeling when choosing a motif. The development of this very own individuality in the photographic work is immensely essential. I totally agree with you. There is too much of the same stuff from different people and often not enough individuality from the many individuals who engage in photography. But it's really not easy to first find out what constitutes your own photographic personality. Studying relevant illustrative literature and being inspired by it is good advice. In my opinion, you do a very good educational job. Thanks and greetings - Mo.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, yeah I think taking away the technical limitations and learnings from photography can mean you gravitate towards your personal interest and style, then use the technical side to further improve your images as you continue. Thanks for watching!
Hey, George ! You are really a fantastic professor, man !
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😅
I learned a lot from YT videos about photography, I experimented a lot and trying to mimicking this photographers, but at the end, I always follow what I'm attracted to no what is the last trend on IG
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic to hear, thanks for watching!
It seems to me that the best of both worlds is the combination of interesting content and good composition; however, for me personally, interesting content trumps good composition most of the time. So, yes, I can't agree with you any more when you said "good composition with uninteresting content is still a bad photo". Very well said, thank you, George. I really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Agreed getting the best of both is the ideal way, but if it comes to a choice between the two its content everyday for me. Thanks for watching and I appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment 🙏
Great video thank you
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Curtis!
Wow nice meditation George, please do more of these.
@GeorgeHolden
11 ай бұрын
More on the way!
Great video! I recently read a book on composition, went out on a rainy day looking for puddles and reflections. I found one. It was perfect. Took a great shot, IMHO! But then looking at it I thought, this is not me. It's not what I do. I look for interesting people and take pics of them. Most of them don't fit in any of the 'rules' I read about in the book on composition. But they are the pics I love the most. So lesson learned. Yeah, as you say, pay heed to the 'rules' but go do your own stuff and be true to yourself! No more puddles for me!! 🙂
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
The problems about compositions you learn through TikTok is that they are straight up boring. Try looking at the old school masters like Henri Cartier Bresson, Alex Webb etc. Those are the real compositions you should strive for.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Agreed as I said with the Erwitt example
I shoot a lot of my street photography these days at 24mm just cause I find it fun and I like the photos I get. But I often get teased in my discord because it's not "normal" because it's not 35mm or 85mm. On top of that I see everyone shooting vertical instead of landscape because of Instagram. I agree, I feel like social media has taken control of how people shoot their photos.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
I'm with you, I'm leaning towards 28mm as my go-to. Finishing up testing with a 35mm at the moment but I like 28mm and I like landscape the same as portrait. 24mm is a great option and pushes you to get closer too!
@MOTOJendays
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeHolden 28 would be the sweet spot for me. But Sony doesn't have the best options for 28mm. So I just use 24. I've been finding it challenging lately. But it's fun nonetheless. I've yet to try a 35 but I'm sure I would love that too.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
@@MOTOJendays ah I see, I had the 28mm f/2 for a while but didn't love it - recently been using an adapted 28mm Minolta on my Sony
@david-markthomlinson7928
Жыл бұрын
How do you get around the portrait/landscape algorithm on Instagram. I like landscape but I've not yet found a way around, so end up using portrait.
@MOTOJendays
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeHolden Honestly I might just roll with a 18mm Fuji for my 28mm equiv. The 1.4 for it seems pretty good.
I deleted my Instagram, because ultimately I felt as if I have been trying to take photos through someone else's eyes other than my own. It just felt a little odd to me, going out to the city to walk around to try and take the same kinds of photos I have been unwillingly subjected to online. I watched your other video of how we should "detox" ourselves from other peoples work, and that definitely feels like what is happening to me. Honestly, I have felt so much less pressure when taking photos, and I feel like I have been more experimental in trying random things, instead of trying to find those very specific tricks to use.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic to hear, thanks for watching!
This. What sucked me in to the world of photography, and actually correlates with me enjoying cycling. People in their everyday lives, they're all living their own unique lives, and when you encounter them, that human experience, maybe their expressions seeing your camera and smiling, maybe them just still doing their job, all captured in one snapshot. I enjoy cycling because i get pretty close to sidewalks, and seeing people, occasionally interacting with another cyclist, it's amazing.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Love that, thanks for sharing!
great video, enjoyed watching it. just let me add my three cents: 1) i think this does not only apply to street photography (in fact, even in the comments others claim your examples werent street photography ones) but for all kinds of photography, 2) these "rules" or recipes are really easy to teach/learn and probably are in the near future incorporated in photo-taking apps (think rule of thirds, guiding lines, symmetry, reflections etc) and 3) the really good examples apply some of these "tricks" but the actually ADDS to the photo, not in the sense that its there but that it deepens the meaning of the photo and there is a reason for being in the frame. what you guys think?
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Good points!
The most useful teachings are studying the successful works by the masters whose work you love the most!
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Very well said!
This video is the Best photography advice i had
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear 🙏
I started using tiktok as an inspiration things for a while already, bring a few things from tiktok that I learned there and trying to apply in my photography. I think that I'm doing a good job to improve my techniques not copying a technique from someone else
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!!
Thank god someone had the guts to say it out loud.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
I feel like we all knew it 😅
@daemon1143
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeHolden But so many of us still did it anyway.
Hi George, great video! What is the name of the book with the red cover, which has photos taken in China (?). Thanks!
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks, it's Magnum Streetwise
Estoy completamente de acuerdo contigo no hay nada de imagenes Contundentes, imágenes sin mensaje o un lenguaje, solo formas de composición y creo que le tienen terror a afrontar las miradas o momentos con expresiones del alma del sujeto. Gracias oor esta explicación tan buena
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias, sentí que no hice un gran trabajo al explicarlo, así que me alegro de que haya tenido sentido para ti. Además, ¡espero que mis subtítulos en español hayan sido precisos!
@raulquinones-rosado3332
Жыл бұрын
De acuerdo con ambos.
I've been noticing this too, on certain street photography videos where the photographer is filming themselves as they walk, street photography Facebook groups and some of the photographers I check out on Instagram and Vero. Most of the photos these photographers share don't stand out enough to me. My main issue is that many street photographers are photographing places or things that don't look that interesting. Such as a plain looking building that doesn't have anything on it that really stands out on it's walls, architecture or lacks character. Also often times a lot of street photographers I see today are photographing people who look very ordinary or aren't doing anything that interesting. I am guilty of this sometimes, but still trying to remember as I shoot. But if they walk in front of a background that I really like, I shoot since it would make the photo more interesting, such as an interesting looking store, street art, or some other background that stands out and isn't plain. I try to photograph people doing something that stands out or is unusual. For example, I once photographed a man talking on his cell phone while he was sitting on an open trash barrel in Hollywood, CA. Which I thought was kind of funny since it wasn't something I see everyday and maybe there was a chance he could fall inside.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! The more photographers you're in touch with especially I think will make you see these trends too
I agree. Sometimes I find myself thinking: "Oh I've seen this composition somewhere on the internet, so I must take the same photo." Or thinking something like: "I think X photographer takes photos like this and that, so let me do the same." It's a weird subconscious thing that comes from watching and seeing loads of street photography content online instead of going with our own flow and thought process. It's good to be inspired by those contents because they can help unlock more of our potencial and creativity, but at the same time we shouldn't mimic everything we see.
That's why I'm not subscribed to any Insta/TikTok channels, I don't my style to be influenced by anyone. I'd rather make mistakes and learn through trial and error, getting feedback from the community and friends.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Great approach, thanks for watching!
Thanks!
@GeorgeHolden
8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
I’m quite new to street photography I use a rangefinder camera with a 28mm and I dress back and almost always shoot from the hip where my camera is not that visible I usually just zone focus at 1.5m and walk around on narrow streets in the hipster areas and look for interesting things and people and try to photograph them
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great combination! I use 28mm on an SLR, just picked up a rangefinder too.
Very good upload. Compositional tricks, Lightroom presets, and the lust for Social media Likes!… We start off trying to bite Cartier Bresson, Garry Winogrand, Saul Leiter, Fan Ho, or some other great street artists style, but the reality is, in Street photography it can take up to a decade to find your own unique fingerprint… and when you find it, there's no guarantee that anyone else will actually like it. It's a sobering thought, so be patient with your progress. The quicker we put down the Compositional tricks, the presets and stop worrying about Likes, the quicker we will find what we claim to be searching for, if it's really that what we are searching for.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Very well put! I'm guilty of using my own presets on digital but to remove some of the tinkering of digital editing. I think accepting that the road is long and maybe never ending is what frees you to experiment and be willing to get it wrong, rather than trying to perfect a specific style. Thanks for watching and appreciate you taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment 🙏
I enjoy shooting people on the street, sometimes with a classic 35-50mm focal length and sometimes with a 400-600mm focal length or whatever lens I have on at the time. I usually look for interesting characters so I'd say I'm more of a candid people photographer than just street. Occasionally Ill see some interesting reflections or some great light but it's always more about characters than anything else, for me at least.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Can imagine the 400-600 gets a bit heavy on a long photo session 😅
@mudgie069
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeHolden not if your using something like a Panasonic 100-300 on a m43 camera 👍
The challenge with our modern and well-developed society is the definition of success has changed. Success today is measured in followers and likes. Based on that, some get the illusion that they have overnight become "experts" and are qualified to teach. After all, there is a lot you can learn from social media, but you have to learn to "filter" noise. Not easy, but it can be done..
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
This is true, I'm planning an entire video on the "expert" persona - something I have a lot of opinions on 😂
i always find myself watching technique and composition videos and trying to ask myself, how could i use this and what would i change within it.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That's fantastic to hear, thanks for watching!
I highly recommend Alan Schaller as an example of how street photographers can set themselves apart. He is a master of his craft.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll do some digging!
@valdiskrebs566
Жыл бұрын
Yes ... and Alan's favorite focal length is 24mm!
Destroy the phones, they are the “let’s do blue and yellow!” equivalent to photography 😂😢
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Blue and yellow to the moooon
There’s a easy fix to this: shoot film (it’ll challenge your creativity in more ways than you can imagine), and focus more on people in your photos. People tell unique stories and are the most interesting thing on the street 🤷♂️
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Yeah agreed, I am shooting film more and more but limited to needing to spend money on food too 😅
Fantastic video. I live in eclectic London, so have no excuse not to get out there and find more interesting subject matter. I'm quite a lively chap who's happy chatting to strangers, so I think that's almost as important a part of my 'photography toolkit' as my equipment - if I could use it more. I feel like a large proportion of 'street photographers' are just the same as self-obsessed Tik-Tokers. Roving around pointing cameras at "a man waiting for a train" etc. I think the worst thing is that taking boring photos is more intrusive than taking good ones, because no one in the shot, or seeing it being taken, will appreciate the purpose. If you take great photos, at least you can show it to the subject and they'll be like "Ah, I wondered what you were up to - but now I get it! Lovely." (I think that's a good reason to often have your camera producing film simulation JPEGS etc too, not just RAWs, so you can show your subject when you need to and have it look nice). As an aside, I think people are so hypocritical for obsessing over 'government surveillance' etc, when it's obvious to me that 99% of surveillance is done obsessively by public.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
One the things I noticed with my content on social media is that posts with complex content, lots of detail do not get traction/engagement while posts with content that is simplistic and depends on abstract graphical shapes, colors, contrast does very well, even though it's essentially meaningless from a humanist, documentation point of view. It's hollow. And boring to look at. It reminds me of the early 2000s on Flickr, when more people started to afford larger sensor format digital cameras and everyone was posting images with just a fraction of the frame in focus, the bokeh being the subject of the photograph, e.g. the endless series of fence post tips in focus, the rest obliterated into meaningless mush, portraits with eyes in focus, but mush (=bokeh) obliterating faces.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
I feel that, I find yes with wider shots and smaller subjects platforms like Instagram aren't very forgiving but it's definitely a balancing act. I like sharing my wider shots in YT videos as for some part they're bigger on laptop screens for some viewers 😅
Replace "street photography" with other genre, like landscape or portrait for example, and basically the question is still valid: landscape photography: foggy mountain during sunset portrait: good looking women with blurred blackground and sun flare in the front etc I wonder if we can (partly) blame social medias. Twenty or thirty years ago, there's no internet yet. Our visual references were limited to magazines and prints. Now we are contantly bombarbed 24/7 with visual feedbacks. Thus it's very easy to see "hey, I think this image is already taken before..." or "oh this particular scene has been shot 500 times". As a hobbyist, my PoV on this issue is straightforward: I make images for my own pleasure, and I don't really care if looks similar to the other. Which in most cases are true: imitating is one of the simplest ways of learning. Yes, I'm aware not all people are interested to stay on this phase forever and want to set bar higher: creating your own recognizable style/identity. When people look at your photos, they will immediately know it's taken by you. Not HCB, not Joel Meyerowitz, not Daido Moriyama etc. Gotta be honest I still don't know what my style is. Imitating the other is much easier :D
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
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Cool take. Good critique on the Tik tok stuff…much like the critique on the insta stuff from years ago. One critical point you don’t seem to make: there’s a difference between calling everything shot in an urban environment Street Photography, and recognizing that a photo of a building or passing bus often has nothing or little to do with Street Photography. This is why folks get upset with the blanket term. The urban shots have their place and require a lot of skill and practice, but without the humanity in the shot, it’s simply another genre. Some people like bright lights, some people look for bright souls.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That is true, thanks for pointing that out - I agree the definition needs to be made
Also everything looks the same because of the "trending" algorithms they have on KZread and Instagram, lol. Great video and funny butt crack, waited for the right moment there.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
This is true and thank you for appreciating the crack
@lsamoa
Жыл бұрын
So true. There's a lot of great photographers out there making unique content, but they're never pushed by the algorithms. I try to find them using hashtags rather than Explore.
I’m actually surprised by how many photographers seem to value sites like TikTok. It just seems like another soul crushing place like Instagram. Creativity should be organic not drawn from hacks learned on TikTok lol. Anyway, your images are sensational. I stumbled upon a street photographer named Jonas Rask, impressive work. I also enjoy the film shooters like Joe Greer. Cheers.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Your videos on the Olympus camera have been very inspiring. I really missed out on an awesome setup because of the sensor. I was wrong. Thanks for your videos. Please limit the butt crack photos.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, yes cracks will be omitted in future 😅 and thank you, I'm glad my videos have been useful for you!
yep. It looks the same, and it is kind of frustrating to see that those are the only ones going viral, but I wouldn't dare to shoot heartless photos just for the sake of virality. On the other hand, I started my photography journey as an extension of my own way of experiencing life. Walking around with no place in mind, breathing the scents of flowers, looking at the reflections in the wet streets. I appreciate an interesting subject but that is not necessary for me. I guess everyone has their own way.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Very well put!
Definitely went through (am still stuck in?) the social media photography trap, but trying to work my way out That China photography book looked really interesting, mind sharing what it's called?
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! The China examples were actually just from one section, it's Magnum Streetwise, a great compilation across photographers and decades!
I think the best way to describe street photography is to document people and events around as pretty as possible.
I emulate so I can see if I can be as good as the pros. But I know what you mean. Best way to get out of the comfort zone is to not look for a specific shot rather shoot what you think will be a unique phots.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Very good point! Definitely emulating can teach you a lot and then taking those skills to pursuing your own take on photography
@goos4711
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeHolden but you are right. Personal style/intuition is extremely important. If you don’t innovate you will only live in someone’s shadow.
This is a great video. I am not a good photographer but want to do better. And this one made me think. Can you please share the names of the books you were showing?
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes of course: Magnum Streetwise, Magnum Ireland, "Dogs" Elliott Erwitt
@DebiSenGupta
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeHolden thanks. I have started collecting photo books this year. Unfortunately not a great choice available here in India but I am still building a good library and will add these to my list
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
@@DebiSenGupta I understand, it may be worth looking for online PDF versions too if you want to find some more soon
Great video. What's the book at 2:31..?
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That is Magnum Streetwise - definitely worth picking up!
I would love this video but talking about people that do not watch instagram or internet tubes too much, and just want to break from what they are doing as habits. I was able to get some of that a tiny bit in this video, but would love to hear a perspective without thinking about using/watchign social media (I don't use instagram at all). Still, good video, good thoughts.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, the social media perspective is the video so another perspective could be another video
Great video and I agree. The problem is photographers giving advice and the ones prevalent on social media are from the “copy and paste” generation, more concerned about creating video content vs creating great street photography. There’s an old-school photographer named John Free who has some great videos about street photography. Check him out.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Cheers! And thanks for sharing John too, less copy and paste in the future!
A massive problem on the internet is bad teachers who might be good but instead of giving good advice they just describe EXACTLY what they do down to the tiniest minutia. Because it gets views and shows a immediate good result. This is like those memes about a back to school outfit. Same exact problem. Just a specific description and no explanations
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
Really enjoying your channel. You should consider move into college lecturing. Very clear, precise, refreshing. You are wise beyond your years! (I am ex lecturer and now pro headshot photographer)
@GeorgeHolden
8 ай бұрын
You flatter me sir, glad you enjoy the channel and style - I do put a lot of time in each video. Doubt I'll be lecturing any time, wasn't much of a student!
I opened an instagram account specifically to post my photos, to have something that would force me to go out and take photos and try to be constant. But I have realized that going out to take photos just to post them on social media is too ephemeral and meaningless. I keep posting but only when I feel like it, now I'm trying to find physical projects that call me out to take photos.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I love that idea. I have a small local project I am starting just on 35mm - good luck with whichever project you decide to start!
Now being serious I started with street photography in the earlier days of digicams, my weapon of choose was a Fuji A330 that I bought just because it was the cheapest 3MP camera that I could afford at the time. The XD card was so expensive that I only had one with 16MB so I need to choose very carefully what I would shoot with it. Now I mostly use my Galaxy S23U, a old Cybershot W510 or my Lumia 1020 even though I have a mirrorless and a few primes.
Two things. I agree with you. Secondly, something I have always believed, for what - without giving my age away - 40 years, is technical correct anything is dull, soulless. And copying styles and compositions are in the same ballpark for me. Really? Yes. Totally. When I see a good photo my first thought is how can I make the composition different. How can I irritate the technically proficient photographer? The rule follower, the - to borrow the term from Sean Tucker - the gatekeeper of mediocracy. And when I've got that, that's when I press the shutter release.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, I couldn't agree more and the point on technical correct factor is something I think is very true in music too
Do it "as you see it", nice video
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
I like that and thank you
i think it has to do more with people wanting quick results so they follow the trends and the algorithum in social media affects how poeple shoot instead of straying from the norm people now and days will look for whatever gets them views
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That is true, I do also think it's the more popular examples we see are so prominent compared to digging a bit deeper elsewhere
Get a polaroid and film. Go on your usual walk. Make it a goal to take pictures but not use it all. Or put a really small sd card might work. Then you really have to think about each one and only go with the ones you really "feel"
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Good idea 👍
Great debate that will roll on. The main thing is we enjoy the challenge of using our cameras
@GeorgeHolden
9 ай бұрын
Yes!
Agree 100%
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Yes 🙏
A lot of street photography probably takes a few decades to mature imo. I do agree that modern street photography is a bit samey, but even some of that in 40 years times may hit someone, somewhere in the nostalgia's. A lot of those older photo's probably looked pretty average back in their day, but now they are like an historical artefact.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
I agree, the maturing process is sometimes overlooked, I have a video I'm working on but it's difficult to shine a light on more recent photography that may or may not age better than others. The history factor too, I sometimes think is the amount of photography today going to cancel out some historical importance
I'm watching this and viewing Instagram at the same time -- interestingly the Photographer's Gallery has just posted one of these clichéd street shots to advertise an event they're holding! It seems like nobody is immune!
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow! I think hopefully this will begin to shift in the next few years
Instant follow.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Had the same thoughts
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
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I have mastered the street photography I see on YT and instagram. On film and digital Leicas. And I am bored. Been shooting with digicam cameras recently. Maybe I'lll take up golf.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
😂
Can't even label these as street photos, honestly speaking.
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
That may be the problem
Bravo
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
I cannot agree more
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
le probleme comme dans toutes formations ils sont formatés a faire si faire ca mais jamais sortir de ce cadre et quand on le fait on ramasse les coups
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Je suis d'accord, c'est quelque chose qui peut arriver dans n'importe quel genre et la photographie de rue n'est pas différente
You make a lot of sense...
@GeorgeHolden
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!