Why Most Americans Living in Portugal End Up Leaving
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Great video, Another factor to add is Do they spend a lot of time planning their financial future? The majority of people do not engage in planing for their future
@ralfbrown-kl1gp
Ай бұрын
I am considering retiring next year but the thought of retirement gets me anxious. I feel for everyone who have retired and filing social security during this time after putting in all those years of work . It’s so difficult for people who are retired and have no savings or loved ones to fall back on.
@CharlesSlowey
Ай бұрын
True, It has never been harder to understand how to build your money after retirement than it is right now with the inflation. The impacts of the U.S. dollar's gain or fall on investments, in my opinion are complex
@marcellasilva4015
Ай бұрын
Opting for an investment advisor is currently the optimal approach for navigating the stock market, particularly for those nearing retirement. I've been consulting with a coach for a while, and my portfolio has surged by 45% since Q1
@oliverdavis-tw2xl
Ай бұрын
wow that’s stirring! Do you mind connecting me to your advisor please.
@marcellasilva4015
Ай бұрын
Amber Angelyn O’ Malley is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
long and gloomy winters in Portugal? mate I've been living in the UK for 14 years, you have no idea what long and gloomy looks like 😂
@maureencopeland5300
Жыл бұрын
Ha Ha try living in New England in America 8 months of winter. However, some people like it its all about your taste.
@catherinegrimes2308
Жыл бұрын
Bruno Nunes, true, the winters are long and gloomy in the UK, especially up north.
@wspek
11 ай бұрын
Moved from The Netherlands to Argentina for this exact reason (among some other exact reasons).
@maidsua4208
11 ай бұрын
I live in Norway and love the winter months. So we are different, because I couldn't bring myself to waste the winter months with a hot and sweaty climate. When spring comes with its plump spring flowers, it is also holiday time, even if the summer is too hot, but luckily you can go up into the mountains to normal temperatures.
@wspek
11 ай бұрын
@@maidsua4208 Lol yes I guess we're all different. For me summer should be shorts, flipflops, hot nights and palm trees.
I’m very confused. As an American in Portugal all the “negatives” are positives (except the graffiti, but the street art is fantastic). The whole point of moving out of the US is for differences. Not replicating the US lifestyle somewhere else. 😊
@aquelpibe
8 ай бұрын
Well said. I think this video is addressed to those who through a sense of entitlement demand a replica of the country they are leaving behind. To them I say, what is the point of moving? There are always tradeoffs and the US is better in some ways, in other ways Portugal is better. Adapt, deal with the cons and enjoy the many pros.
@nikkiwall9293
8 ай бұрын
There's not a city on the planet that isn't completely artificial that doesn't have graffiti LOL... I've been all over Western Europe, parts of the Middle East, and Central America... accept the graffiti. It's just a part of life when people are freer to express themselves than most Americans are ;)
@IpSyCo
7 ай бұрын
That’s not true for everyone. Many many people enjoy many aspects of American life. Many want to move somewhere that’s different but not too similar.
@marysmith4811
7 ай бұрын
@@aquelpibe And if you are leaving your country because you are unhappy, then chances are you won't be happy with the next.
@TheRet78
7 ай бұрын
Right, I do not get it either.
As an Englishman living in Alentejo since 2002, I've seen so many foreigners come and go. Quite a few, like me have stayed and lived happily, but quite a few more just couldnt adapt or embrace Portuguese (or nearby Spanish) life. Better that, than staying if they're unhappy. All I can say is my life only truly began when we arrived here. I will never live anywhere else. I have had nothing but wonderful experiences from the first day to now.
@Gewehr_3
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have been in Spain for 4 years and have seen foreigners come and go like it's a revolving door, not just people from the English world but also French, Germans, ect. The only people that stay are the ones that learn the language and somehow find a good job. The ladder is incredibly difficult in the Mediterranean and if I have to leave it will be for this reason.
@ianworley8169
8 ай бұрын
@@Gewehr_3 So true Xavier. Living here's the easy bit. It's finding a way to pay for it that's hard. But it is possible if you are able to speak Spanish or in my case, Portuguese. Good luck to you. Once you're able to live independently, there's no better life.
@chriswilliams6568
6 ай бұрын
Trouble with Portugal is that the language is useless in the rest of the world, it is not useful except there. I do not count Brazil as I have no desire to go. I did like my visit to Lisbon many years ago, and the people were very friendly. But at my age now, it is too difficult to learn another language.
@jordanhtiffirg1990
5 ай бұрын
@@chriswilliams6568why do you not want to go to Brazil?
@chriswilliams6568
5 ай бұрын
@@jordanhtiffirg1990 sorry, have no desire, too hot for me, and afraid of robberies and it is too upsetting to see the poverty and not being able to afford to help. Plus few have had Covid shots, (because your last president did nothing about Covid and was a denier )so there must be a lot of it about. Good luck
the problem is not americans, canadians or any other nationality moving here. The problem is investment funds wanting to invest in real-estate in Portugal. They buy at already absurd prices, leave the houses empty for a while and then put them on the market for an even more ridiculous price. There are thousands of empty houses in Lisboa and Porto, that could be used for anyone to live in, regardless of their nationality.
@nowayconway3580
Жыл бұрын
“Regardless of their nationality” what a cuck
@joaomatias
Жыл бұрын
@@nowayconway3580 não sei o que é um "cuck", mas se quiseres falar na minha lingua podes explicar-me?
@AnaSilva-sr9qw
Жыл бұрын
Exato. É uma fábrica de dinheiro. Na Madeira então é ridículo. Claro que quem tem dinheiro para investir vai investir, mas está a tornar certas zonas numa aldeia de reformados de outras nacionalidades, nómadas digitais e visitantes sazonais com 3 ou 4 propriedade no seu nome em que ganham dinheiro com alojamento local. As medidas que Portugal tentou implementar não vão resultar se não forem levadas a rigor. E até lá vamos continuar a pagar o dobro pelas nossas casas e triplo pelo aluguer. Oxalá um dia está bolha imobiliária rebente
@mnob1122
Жыл бұрын
Joas, that has been happening in Florida (USA), making it unaffordable to buy a house for the average person. The government needs to step in both countries but I doubt that will ever happen.
@saragomes6242
Жыл бұрын
@@joaomatias mas sempre foi assim quem tem dinheiro compra ,constrói, o problema não são os americanos, canadianos,e ninguém é obrigado a arrendar o que é seu,porque o estado já recebeu e continua a receber através do IMI, mesmo antes dos estrangeiros os portugueses queixavam-se de não terem casa condignas, principalmente em Lisboa e Porto
We don't hate Americans, we don't hate anybody, we just hate being poor but that is not your fault. The impact of you coming to live here is still negligible but like everything, its just a matter of numbers, it will eventually impact our property prices and general prices just because of the huge pay gap, you really earn way more money than we do and that is the reality. I lived in California for a while and its a no brainer to move to Portugal if i was American, its safer, quieter, better value for money and overall a much better life quality. Just don't be a asshole and call your self an expat, you are an emigrant, learn the language, pay your due taxes and quit the americanism of being entitled. Another thing we don't need is racism and coffee to go, just sit down and forget your lattes and enjoy the conversation on the neighborhood café, its cheaper and you will make friends.
@basementstudio7574
Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@joaosito68
Жыл бұрын
É voltar para lá, estás à espera de quê? Parasitas como tu já cá há muitos.
@enewberg2812
Жыл бұрын
Foi muito bem apanhado m’belo amigo :)
@mrquestion8398
Жыл бұрын
Especially the RACISM!!
@ArabianShark
Жыл бұрын
We really don't hate anybody, but we have a friendly sibling rivalry with the Spanish, with whom we often trade good spirited banter barbs. Think nothing of it; we love them, really.
I am 100% Portuguese but born and raised on the Texas-Mexico southern border. I plan on retiring to Portugal being both of my parents were Portuguese citizens. I am going to open an authentic Mexican food & Fruit/Treats joints in Lisbon
@micheledesoer1975
9 ай бұрын
Please do! That’s the one thing I miss: real Mexican food.
@ZombiemanOhhellnaw
9 ай бұрын
Let us know when you do it!
@Ecuacolom
9 ай бұрын
You do very well in Lisboa with the restaurant. Brazilian Rodizio restuarant have been succesful in Lisboa and Porto. Portuguese people will accept you as long as you show respect and friendship. Portugal e muito bonito
@lisbondiaries9212
9 ай бұрын
They’re are tons of Mexican food places in Lisbon now…lots of taquerias.
@hardassteel
9 ай бұрын
You grew up in Mexico or US?
Portuguese don't have lunch for 2-3 hours. It's 1 hour lunch on work days. On weekends and holidays sure it can be longer, assuming you are lunching with friends or family.
@speakeuropeanportuguese
Жыл бұрын
Foi o que eu pensei também. Uma mãe que trabalha e tem de ir buscar os filhos na hora do almoço, mal tem tempo para comer...
@susanamariapereirasoares7188
11 ай бұрын
nos EUA engolem uma sandes sentados nas escadas, 15 minutos se tanto 😁
@paxxop
Ай бұрын
Didn't he mean, that the lunch break, of a length that he didn't spell out, doesn't start until 1pm? As opposed to starting at 12noon, for example?
"Sometimes you have to know a guy who knows a guy in order to get things done": this is, unfortunately, quite true, I'm afraid. In our (poor) defence, things aren't so dissimilar elsewhere; when I moved to London, I couldn't open a bank account without an address, and I couldn't rent a flat without a bank account. In the end, I met a guy who knew a guy (see?) who knew a woman with a flat to let, and she was kind enough to dismiss the bureaucracy of bank accounts and such.
@user-sm3xq5ob5d
11 ай бұрын
As the bureaucrat which I was in my job I always found it interesting to play the system. So the same conumdrum or Catch-22) exists in Germany. I wonder if you could rent short-term so you get an address?
@SnowofLight
8 ай бұрын
In Australia I looked for a bank that let me put the address of my hostel :) But for a room/apartment to rent, same story... Had to find a guy that knew a guy...
@colonelfustercluck486
Ай бұрын
that is a common problem when moving to another country
I came to Portugal 3 and a half years ago to experience and to travel throughout Europe. I can only say that the Portuguese people I have met are the kind that we need most in this world. Love Portugal ❤😊!
@skywurst5529
8 ай бұрын
You never were in a situation where you needed help from the police? Lucky you .. because they don't. They would let you die in a ditch if you do not have a PT passport
@nikkiwall9293
8 ай бұрын
I 100% agree!
@Tomasinasworld
7 ай бұрын
Me too! We travelled there in 2018 and stayed in Guincho for 2 years we love Portugal ❤
@zakmal8915
7 ай бұрын
That’s good to say that. Many reports in the media and books saying that the foncal divide is great and therefore drug gang issue are bad (with many shipments coming in from Brazil and easier access to weapons) and getting worse. Whereabouts are you based and have you seen evidence of this?
@jess97724
5 ай бұрын
But the prescription drugs are much higher there than in the U.S. & they don't take Medicare I also looked at the price of condos compared to where I live in the U.S. & they're much more. It's ridiculous!!!
If you want to integrate somewhere, the first thing you do is learn the local language. I only hear the Americans complaining that it is so difficult. I had to learn English you know, and 3 other languages. Don't be silly.
@wplains
10 ай бұрын
Portuguese is a difficult language to learn especially for English speaking people. Why in heavens name would you want Mexican food in Portugal? I myself find Mexican food very unappealing.
@cellevangiel5973
10 ай бұрын
@@wplains English speaking, with the Americans in particular, find every foreign language difficult. How difficult do you think English is with its weird sounds and non phonetic writing.
@jensgronning4436
8 ай бұрын
@@cellevangiel5973yeah that’s because you’re a European you dolt. America is a huge country, and only a small amount of people speak a different language, mainly Spanish. You can drive for 12 hours and never leave Texas. You Europeans think you’re so enlightened, I’m fact youre just exposed to many other cultures simply because of geography. America is more homogeneous than Europe.
@maggieokeeffe9283
8 ай бұрын
I believe it helps to learn a foreign language if you already love that part of education. I studied 3 years French in high school. Had no use for it sadly after school. Years later I worked in Switzerland and studied German in the year before I moved there. After a year I studied Italian just because it's so beautiful. Lo and behold, the French Swiss would speak to me in Italian! But never German. And you know they are multi lingual. My biggest regret was returning to the US. (It was to continue my education, not for any other reason. Would have been impossible to study medicine in German) I wish I could return for the rest of my life. Yes there have been changes over 40 some years, but... I still would be happier there.
@ibberman
8 ай бұрын
Millions of people in the US never learn to speak English.
I'm Irish but brought up in England. I came here in 1975 and stayed. Portuguese bureaucracy has improved enormously. I remember queueing up in Lisbon to pay taxes - surreal! Now everything is interlinked via data bases. I speak Portuguese fluently. In 1975, only a handfull of students could speak basic English; now, I have to tell Portuguese people that they can speak to me in Portuguese because they take every opportunity to practise their English. The wine - cheaper and better than most European countries I know - Spain, Italy, France, Germany. The food: simple, healthy - fish, fish, fish,...
@jeanlundi2141
8 ай бұрын
If you are eating primarly fish dishes in Portugal you are missing out. Yes, we have good seasfood stuff....but we have just as many or more dishes with meat in them. I favour meat and I love our meat dishes. One thing I'll say is, there are so many regional dishes in Portugal, if I were to try and get someone from outside to show them what we've got...while they were staying in any ONE place...it'd be tricky. Anyway, I'm just chiming in, because if there is one thing I feel the world could know more about us is precisely the food.
@lepsilverio9795
7 ай бұрын
so u love meat eh?@@jeanlundi2141
@user-vj4tk6jw8i
6 ай бұрын
As a Portuguese person born and raised in Madeira Island, I super agree with the "they take any chance to practice their English". Well Said
@lioneldemun6033
5 ай бұрын
Fish gets old quickly for me !
@ghassanjneinaty4421
5 ай бұрын
Portuguese bureaucracy is improving? I am glad to hear that. How do you rate the health care system?
I like many things about Portugal, but I'm not sure it would be my first choice for a new home. Although prices are lower than the US, amenities in most homes outside cities are very basic. Services outside cities are also hit or miss. You can't expect a small town to have a licensed plumber, for instance, but you'll often find that Uncle Josef can help you out with that after he brings in his olives. He also fixes cars, can rewire your home, and he occasionally can score some really good seafood from his sister's brother-in-law's second cousin.
@susangallen4548
2 ай бұрын
Once upon a time it was like that in America.
Ok, we don't hate Americans coming here. Obviously the government made a mistake when it didn't protect the real estate market against abuse, and this demand and interest in 🇵🇹 is negatively affecting the life of average Portuguese. The incredible rent hikes is just not because of Americans coming here, but the greed of many landlords (including many Portuguese) that have no conscience. As for "many Americans" leaving Portugal 🇵🇹 I don't think that is that accurate. Many leave, just like many Brazilians, British, etc leave after a while. There are many reasons, and some you mentioned, but I would say the main reason, is that they expect Portugal to be California! It isn't, things here are different. There are no deli's in Portugal, services here are slow (there are reasons outside of slow living) and Americans are used to speedy service, efficiency, not here most of the time. So, it's all about the attitude and expectations, which are not always in line with local culture.
@Rodrigues-xg3ln
Жыл бұрын
Graças a Deus que Portugal não é como a Califórnia...
@Alfablue227
Жыл бұрын
@@Rodrigues-xg3ln não é, mas há similaridades pois conheço bem a Califórnia. Felizmente não temos os problemas sociais e de saúde que se vê em certas cidades da Califórnia; tipo São Francisco, Oakland, etc.
@Rodrigues-xg3ln
Жыл бұрын
@@Alfablue227 descontrolo populacional propositado são políticas perigosas
@Alfablue227
Жыл бұрын
@@Rodrigues-xg3ln Descontrolo? Acho extremo, afinal não são tantos assim a vir pra Portugal. Os retornados foram + de 1 milhão, e precisavam quase todos de emprego ou estudos. Portugal aguentou, e o que há cá agora não chega a isso, mais ainda, os q vêm pra cá, nem emprego precisam pois ou são nómadas digitais ou reformados. De momento, não vejo motivo para alarme, mas sim preocupação com a governação que temos e as já suas incompetências. Independentemento do partido político, são todos uma cambada de tolos! 🙄
@Rodrigues-xg3ln
Жыл бұрын
@@Alfablue227 engraçado termo "tolos", você é simpática. E em Portugal nao foram 1 milhão, foram 2 milhões de refugiados expulsos de africa por terem cor da pele branca.
I am American born Portuguese and retired from San Jose and moved to Portugal. This guy is full of opinion . I can do the same thing- so take his comments about how Portuguese feel about Americans as opinion . I am fully bilingual and I find people here not to really care if you’re American or whatever as long as you’re not an a’hole. Live and let live is the attitude I think .
Greetings from beautiful and sunny Estoril today...originally from Texas...Been a legal resident and supporter of the economy of Portugal since 2016...Traveled all over this beautiful country and met folks from all walks of life...Been blessed to live and work in 42 different countries around the world...All with pro's and cons...One thing I have never done is blame other's for my own countries problems.. No matter where you go on this planet, things will not be perfect...Never expect another place to do thing's like you are used to no matter where you come from...Do you have realistic expectations on the country you are living in or are you running away from something? If one is not secure in themselves, it matters not where you move any where on this planet...Are you moving for the right reasons...Are you an asset to place you are moving and I'm not just talking financially...Have you studied the countries history, customs and language...My Portuguese is mixto...Most folks understand me, however I'm not forcing anyone to speak my native tongue either, which is Cowboy...From Bragança to Tavira, Marvão to Ponta Delgada and everywhere in-between I have taken the roads less traveled and for me the reward has been Blessed and Rich...Portugal for me is bênçãos e energia positiva...🇵🇹😉👌🤠
@ninarosaphotography2039
Жыл бұрын
Legal Texano. I live in Texas- Galveston city. Planing to living in my father country. I’m between Peniche and Algarve. Hard to decide ! See you there alligator !
@dickielarue1451
Жыл бұрын
@@ninarosaphotography2039 I grew up in Baytown...Spent many summer's in good ole Galveston...from East Beach to Jamaica Beach, The Strand...etc. Bom dia from Estoril! 🇵🇹😉👌👏🤠
@ninarosaphotography2039
Жыл бұрын
@@dickielarue1451 A família da esposa do meu filho mora em Baytown. Galveston mudou muito, está cada vez mais lindo. Caminho na praia todos os dias com a minha pastora alemã. A praia é um elixir na nossas vidas. Me fala de Estoril, como é a cidade. Estou procurando por um lugar layback e que eu possa caminhar na praia sem precisar de carro. Claro que seguro. Tenha um ótimo e agradável dia. De Galveston nos despertando a cada dia com o brilhar ensolarado ao cântico dos pássaros .
@dickielarue1451
Жыл бұрын
@@ninarosaphotography2039 Portugal tem tudo num pacote pequeno...Praias, lagos, ilhas e montanhas...Claro que a comida é fantástica...Aqui não preciso de carro...Os transportes públicos levam-me onde quero vá...As minhas praias favoritas aqui são no Alentejo...mais natureza e menos comercial...sinto-me abençoada por viver aqui...🤠
@dickielarue1451
Жыл бұрын
@@UncleHoax A lot folks here in Portugal are being creative on the making money front...Don't have to be a millionaire to live here...I'm sure as heck not...From Digital Nomads, You-tubers, Skills-Trade, Pensions and Retirements and etc...Before living in Portugal...I lived in Mexico...Same there...Much easier to hop back and forth across the border to the States...It's certaintly doable, just got to be creative with it and have the right kind of expectations...Best move I've ever made...Boa Noite! 😉🇵🇹✌️🤘
im Portuguese, i like America and americans, just like other europeans, just keep in mind we never advertised the "Portuguese dream" because it doesn't exist.
We don't hate Americans. There's no hate here towards any nationality and many people actually love to interact with folks from other countries. As Americans, just don't expect us to smile as readily as you do, at first sight - that's a very New World thing (Brazilians are like that too) that's, in general, absent in Europe. We'll be (in broad terms) polite but, out of consideration and respect, we will not disturb you by initiating conversation. We'll respect your personal bubble. But if you do initiate conversation, well, we'll open up and start to speak loudly (either in Portuguese, English or both! )
@maureencopeland5300
Жыл бұрын
Ahh to bad I live in south ga. we find a reason to smile every morning and if I see someone sad, I'm gonna try and brighten their day.
@pedrob3953
11 ай бұрын
Even within Europe, we're quite approachable and smile a lot compared with Swedes, for example.
@eugeniebreida1583
10 ай бұрын
@@pedrob3953 Compared to Swedes? This is not saying much, eh? ; ) How about comparing with a central/southern Spanish environment? Perhaps this is not an easy comparison to make?
@jeanlundi2141
8 ай бұрын
@@eugeniebreida1583 We are the most hospitable in my experience. But we are also "grumpy" in our own way. So you can be both warm and open.....but still not come across as overly friendly. Portuguese are very direct. We are less extroverted on average than the Spanish or Italian .We are melancholic.
@jb894
6 ай бұрын
Funny how as a Brit I was subject to xenophobic abuse as a kid
Seems like an accurate portrayal- and also true for other southern European countries. But you never really explained why most Americans leave…
@vkham9944
10 ай бұрын
American are not happy in EU😠
@MichaelPineda-fx3kj
10 ай бұрын
@@vkham9944 I like being poor in EU. I hate the US
@ibberman
8 ай бұрын
@@vkham9944 Americans' are not happy in the US, very different from what it used to be.
I am Portuguese (dual nationality through my parents) but American born and raised. Americans are coming in droves…check more current statistics…wish it would actually slow down. I know Americans who have lived here for years. Portugal is the number one country in Europe where Americans are moving. Perhaps the ones who are leaving are the ones who won’t adjust, learn the language, respect the culture or expect us to be like the U.S. (thank God we are different in many ways). Portuguese don’t care if you are famous, a celebrity, etc. We see many on the streets of Lisbon and no one reacts. So, no one is going to cater to Americans coming here…it is a different world and adjustment is needed.
Thank you for another amazing video. As a Portuguese citizen who recently came back after 7 years abroad, I can relate to some of the struggles and culture shocks that you mentioned here, particularly the bureaucracy and tax part of it (also the graffiti), which were not as much an issue where I was living. But just like you, I'd much rather be here than wasting my life working like a dog in a country with a horrible and toxic hustle culture, where I was before.
@shanon72327
Жыл бұрын
And where were you living before, if I may ask? Just for contrast purposes 😉
@klimtkahlo
Жыл бұрын
@@shanon72327 I gather USA.
@hoodatdondar2664
11 ай бұрын
@@klimtkahlo prob New York.
@lotusgrl444
11 ай бұрын
Im Mexican American who grew up in the United States. I recently traveled to your country and fell in love with the energy, the warmth and the culture..even with the graffiti, it is nowhere near as bad as my city plus we have soo much crime, bad race relations, expensive healthcare, I can go on...I would take Portugal's cons anyday and my goal now is to be able to retire in Portugal!
@MichaelPineda-fx3kj
10 ай бұрын
Im mexican american too but I didnt live in america all my life. I like spain and I lived there for many years
As a portuguese i need to say this relating to the climate. Summers in Portugal are NOT tame at all. Yeah, they can be a bit chiller if you live by the coast, but central Portugal gets hot.. Like real HOT. 45Cs in not uncommon at all during the summer months. Yeah, Algarve (The southern region) is super sunny and more tame (perfect weather to be honest, Winters there dont feel like Winters). However you mentioned Madeira and the Madeira main Island on itself has 6 micro climates. Its crazy. It rains and it has no clouds sun in a day.
@ArabianShark
Жыл бұрын
Summers can be absolute scorchers here! Tourists from colder countries passing out from heat stroke/dehydration isn't too uncommon a sight in Summer, especially in particularly dry years.
@CusterPlays
Жыл бұрын
@@ArabianShark Oh yeah. Seen it way to many times.
@marieb5251
9 ай бұрын
It only gets 45C for a couple of days in Portugal. In the US, you get those temperatures in Texas, Arizona, California for months! And lately it's getting to 50C.
@krystynaliebowitz6554
8 ай бұрын
I doubt it gets to 113F in Portugal in the summer. That's ridiculous.
@CusterPlays
8 ай бұрын
@@krystynaliebowitz6554 Lmao. We just got 46.6c the other day. (115.88F)
A lot of these issues are the same in many places in Europe. You need to learn a language if you are really going to try and integrate with the culture; you won't have your favourite brands/ foods/ TV to hand; bureaucracy can be intimidating, especially dealing with "Foreigners Police" for visa issues, and registering for healthcare and taxes; taxes are often much higher; the climate may be different to at home, and the building regulations may allow for poorer insulation than you are used to ( a problem in both summer and winter ); landlords may have a different approach than you are used to; the education system may not meet your expectations, and expat schools can be expensive; you may be prohibited from doing a "side hussle" due to your visa conditions ( eg where I live you get a visa for your profession. If you do something that is not your profession, that is illegal ); and if you move on your own, it can be lonely. People don't mention this enough. Yes, it is easier to join some expat community group for socialising. From my experience, most people end up socialising with people from their own country. For guys, sports is the focus. So if you're not into sports, you'll have to fake it. It can be quite superficial, but then guys just need 4-5 other guys to do things with. The guys are interchangeable. So it can be difficult to really bond for friendship. For girls, as we know, they bond much easier with one another. But that still leaves you either in a general expat bubble, or hanging around with compatriots from your home country. Either way, you're not integrating so much with the country and people. If you date a local, be prepared for language barrier potentially with their parents/ siblings, and culture clashes.
@nichellepeters5195
2 ай бұрын
My experience in Costa Rica. VERY lonely... My U.S. friends had obligations and couldn't join me. I lived there for 8 months. The food had cheap prices and was INCREDIBLY delicious and healthy. The rent was low, and my apartment was absolutely beautiful. ($650 a month US dollars!!😮)The people were politely cold. You gotta go with a significant other, or you will feel the chill. 🥶 They're a VERY close-knit family oriented country. I was too stupid to realize that. Plus being a very outgoing person I really suffered socially. 😢I'd seriously like to return with a hot boyfriend and go ziplining through the jungle! 😂
@Czechbound
2 ай бұрын
@@nichellepeters5195 'with a hot boyfriend" ... ... I can be there in 12 hours Michelle :) ha ha
At my job i deal with lots of imigrants and English speakers tend to be the ones not to learn the language. If you move here to stay or to stay for a long time, learn the language. I've interacted with people living here 5 to 10 years already and they dont know the language beyond "bom dia" and "obrigado".
@LabRat6619
11 ай бұрын
It's a tough language to learn. More so if you know some Spanish already.
@JPF222
11 ай бұрын
@@LabRat6619 Maybe, but it's really disrespectful to live in another country for years and not even bothering to learn the language, not even basic communication!
@MJ31579
11 ай бұрын
@15 Minute Prisons English speakers expect people to know their language and be fluent at it. English is as difficult as any other language to learn.
@deejay6016
11 ай бұрын
I don't think it has to do with English speakers not wanting to learn or willing to learn the language. It has to do with age. It is generally much harder for adults to learn another language, compared to children or young adults, specially if they emigrate to a new country where the language is different than their mother tongue. I see it a lot in the US. Latinos who moved to the US as an adult, unable to speak English beyond Hello. The same goes with a lot of Asians, especially the ones from China. If an adult Portuguese (way beyond college years) who doesn't speak English, were to move to an English-speaking country, this person will have a very difficult time learning English, guaranteed.
@zainulabdin1720
11 ай бұрын
Agree
I don't think we're as far north as Maine. I think Lisbon is at the same latitude as Philadelphia and Porto at the same latitude as NYC. Still, it doesn't get nearly as cold as those places in the Winter, because we "benefit" from the gulf stream. As for lunch, we do have one hour for lunch on week days, and we are a lot more frugal for dinner, because it's not convenient to have a heavy meal at night.
@psource2305
Жыл бұрын
@@DaveinPortugal I think its a bit further south. Portugal latitude wise ranges from southern NJ to Rhode Island.
@matildesantos4215
Жыл бұрын
I have one hour lunch here in the States.I eat light by choice.Dinner is family time you sit and eat a home cooked meal
@psource2305
11 ай бұрын
@@tonynunes4965 I stand corrected. NYC is roughly at the same latitude as the Aveiro area. When was the last time the city shoveled snow from the streets of Aveiro after a snowstorm? I agree the climate is similar to the central part of California. Tending towards semi-arid/Mediterranean in the Algarve similar to, say, Santa Barbara and with the north of Portugal having a climate similar to the wine producing region located north of San Francisco.
@gerardmackay8909
11 ай бұрын
@@psource2305 Faro is 37 degrees North which is equivalent of Virginia/NC border but as it has a maritime climate with Mediterranean influences rather than continental climate it’s much warmer in winter and summers are slightly cooler but very sunny and very dry. All in all a healthy delightful climate.
A Portuguese dude from Lisbon here. A few relevant things that are missing: 1 - SAFETY - Portugal is well within the top 10 most safe countries in the world. 2 - HEALTH CARE SYSTEM - You will not be placed in a hotel room, but you will treated in accordance with best practices. HIGHWAYS - you can go to almost anywhere in the country using highways. WEATHER - in the South (Lisbon and beyond) it rains much less and it makes much less cold In the Winter than what you are saying. Finally, I don’t see people Leaving Portugal; quite the opposite: I see many people wanting to come to Portugal.
@susiex6669
Жыл бұрын
Yes but Portugal cant accept the world because then you get the problem we currently have in Canada, taking in too many people without develloping the infrastructure to support it. We have a housing crisis in most major cities, hospital overcrowdings, school classrooms that are overwhelming for teachers, etc... Be wise Portugal.
@RafaelaFilipaLD
11 ай бұрын
dude, o vídeo é sobre os MOTIVOS porque as pessoas SAEM de Portugal, não as razões porque FICAM
@P.oliver380
11 ай бұрын
We have much larger highways in the USA. Why don’t you talk about how racist Portuguese people are towards black people how racial discriminating with immigrants from third world countries you all really are!
@zainulabdin1720
11 ай бұрын
1. Safety 2.healthcare 3.higways 4.food 😋 5.weather 6.polite people 7.history n culture 8.Growing economy 9.beaches 10. English and better immigration policy ❤❤😊who don't want to come Portugal 🆗
Hi Dave, a real pleasure to meet you in person, albeit briefly. I live in Portugal and can attest that your observations are spot on.
Dave you tell it like it is, nothing but the truth is what people need, love your site. keep going my friend.
Hey Dave, It was great to meet you in person! How was the healthy cafe? 😉 I did find a great place that has happy hour tocos for 1 Euro! (Gringo) recommend the flutas. Anyways love your videos and understanding of of Portuguese culture. I have been here for almost 2 years and love it! #mexicanamerican #forÇa!
@DaveinPortugal
Жыл бұрын
Was a pleasure to meet you and your beautiful family while passing through Jon!
I loved living in Portugal. I am learning Portuguese and I am hoping that I can at least snow bird there. I was there over the winter, it was nice and it's true that homes don't even have heating. But the winter wasn't so bad compared to New England. I loved the cultural sensibilities.
@alterrial
Жыл бұрын
Make shore is Portugal portuguese not brasilian portuguese.
@saragomes6242
Жыл бұрын
Eu cresci numa casa sem aquecimento e o único aquecimento era um fogão a lenha e os invernos no passado eram mais frios e acho que eu e os meus irmãos nunca nos queixamos, agora nunca estão contentes com nada
@ArabianShark
Жыл бұрын
@@saragomes6242 Cresci a aquecer-me com aquecederes a óleo e lareira, mas, de há pouco mais de um ano para cá, finalmente tenho aquecimento central. É mais confortável, mas, tirando isso, não é coisa que me importe particularmente.
@ArabianShark
Жыл бұрын
Snowboarding in Portugal? Surely you're thinking of coming to Serra da Estrela, not far from where I live!
@speakeuropeanportuguese
Жыл бұрын
It is great that you are learning. Há quanto tempo está a aprender?
I don't know if this was mentioned before, but it is also considered pollite and wise to learn European Portuguese instead of Brazilian Portuguese. This will show that you know the difference and people will appreciate it. Thank you so much for your sensible opinion.
@tinglestingles
11 ай бұрын
and never Spanish!!
@miguelteixeira9173
11 ай бұрын
this is foolish. As long as you are able to communicate effectively people do not care about the accent. This is like discriminating american english vs british english. If you are a foreigner and you learn the local language that is fair enough and well received.
@elisabethshaefer8849
11 ай бұрын
The Portuguese people are using Braziluan expressions like vo achar i am an American speak 7 languages and have been going to Portugal very often that is why i know but as longvas people understand one another andcrespect each other that is the most important
@cilajoao1
11 ай бұрын
@@manzo6335 did you read my comment to the end or are you just in a foul mood today? I said GIVEN THE CHOICE, maybe learn European Portuguese if you want to live in Portugal. I am a language teacher, I have studied in Brazil, I do know what I'm talking about. Do you?
@elisabethshaefer8849
11 ай бұрын
How stupid is that
There are plenty of small towns in the US where the pace of life is a lot slower, so it's not all the fast-paced city life.
Regarding taxes - DON'T say that the rate is 48% for those who earn more than 80,000 euros a year! This amount is paid ABOVE 80,000, that is, if you earn 85,000 you pay 48% on 5,000 (the difference between 85,000 and 80,000). Tax rates are applied by intervals. Ask your accountant to explain this to you, so you don't continue to give wrong information! Other than that, I like your channel
@dasrite
Жыл бұрын
@@ingbor4768 Eu já pago 38% (IRS + SS) e não ganho nem perto de metade disso, e é sobre o total dos rendimentos brutos Não entendo ao certo o que Maria quer dizer, ninguém é taxado em IRS sobre um valor arbitrário que ultrapassa 80,000 euros, somos taxados de acordo com o bolo total bruto que recebemos mensalmente, alguém que ganhe 85,000 euros anuais (6071 mensais em 14 meses) por exemplo ultrapassaria o escalão de 6052 euros e seria taxado a 35,8% em IRS de acordo com a tabela em vigor. Esses 35,8% seriam acrescidos ao valor da Segurança Social (11% para trabalhadores por conta de outrem no privado) e a taxa combinada de ambos (46,8%) seria retirada do valor bruto que a pessoa recebeu, não haveria uma taxa dupla onde 6052 euros são taxados com uma taxa e os restantes 19 euros com outra, isso nem faria sentido, verifiquei até no meu recibo de vencimento e tá calculado assim, a soma de SS + IRS é retirada ao vencimento bruto A não ser que ela se esteja a referir a algum estratagema de divisão de lucros para esconder parte do vencimento real e assim ser taxado com o escalão inferior, se for o caso gostava de saber como isso funciona lol
@k-dogg9086
7 ай бұрын
@@dasrite America HAD a wonderful thing: "taxation without representation is theft." Thus their Founders said.
I’m Portuguese living in Long Island,New York.Just want to say love your videos.They are very accurate
One of the main reasons I love Portugal and my birth country Turkey, is the sense of community. You feel a post of something bigger. Here in Australia it is very different .
This video as 10% usefull info and 90% vision off rich english speaking foreigner of what portugal really is.
youre talking about mex food isnt as good as it is in NY...but who wants to eat mex when the portuguese cuisine is so great and vast? humidity...stone walls?were have youlived?in a cavern? portuguese people are used to cosmopolity..and dont have any issue with someone for beeing american or chinese...its a very different Country from the States...thats all😉
Appreciate you candour...and your channel
I'm a Brit who recently moved back to England after 9 years in Lisbon. Life there on a 800-900 euro Portuguese wage is impossible. There are a few things I really miss, but not the stress of running out of money two weeks before the next pacheck which is the most important. Lisbon is starting to not feel like a real city, for example where normal people can make a living, portuguese disneyland, 'the new barcelona' and personaly i do find the nomads/anyone not paying taxes there annoying.
@MarinaLaroche
11 ай бұрын
Why did you decide against living elsewhere outside of Lisbon ? Isn't the UK much more expensive ?
@rir75
11 ай бұрын
Funny thing is, now that as a Brit you know how the Portuguese feel you probably will understand why it’s rude to ask Portuguese people “Why are you not living in your country? It’s so sunny there!”. We get asked this on a daily basis when working abroad and it feels stupid to tell people that I prefer the no stress of being able to pay bills and those cannot be paid with sunny weather only… best of luck back in England.
@chrisnamaste3572
11 ай бұрын
The locals complain about foreigners not paying taxes everywhere. Frankly this is usually BS; traveller's pay VAT which in Europe runs around 20% on every good and service. Foreigners also pay short term accommodation taxes which can be quite high. In terms of Americans, they pay taxes on worldwide income as a USA person; there is no expat taxation status. Hence, Americans usually pay double taxation by working outside the USA as accommodation and VAT taxes are not offset usually.
@Buttercup697
11 ай бұрын
@@chrisnamaste3572 Americans living and working overseas only pay US taxes when their wages exceed 125,000 USD. I know this from experience.
@chrisnamaste3572
10 ай бұрын
@valerieroche No, you are wrong. Are Americans overseas exempt from unearned income tax? Are Americans overseas exempt from USA property taxes? What is the marginal rate the first dollar starts at over the 125k EARNED income tax exclusion IF you qualify?
Great overview. I lived outside Estoril in the early '80s. The weather, especially in winter, is exactly as you mentioned. If I could move back to Portugal, the coastal north areas, Nazare' and north to the Spanish border, far surpass the Algarve in my opinion. Completely agree about learning Portuguese....even if not spoken well, Portuguese appreciate your attempts to speak their language.
@aysinduarte
8 ай бұрын
My husband who is Portuguese and i just came back from holidaying there last week. I fell in love with the country and I agree the North surpasses the south.
i retired to Madeira and love it here. I am buying an apartment and don't plan on moving back to the US anytime soon.
First video actual reality, thanks for sharing. 👍🙏🇬🇧
More and more seem to be moving to the Algarve. These are people that want to integrate with community spirit and live in rural areas. I gave a class where 50% of my students were American. They also understand the processes here are different so they grin and bear it. If you have a good attitude and stay positive it helps - a lot - in state government offices. Learning Portuguese is a must! In São Brás alone we have so many restaurants you will not believe. Chinese, indian, kebabs, sushi, traditional restaurants too. If ever you come here, I will show you around.
@InGrindWeCrust2010
11 ай бұрын
That sounds amazing...I don't know why people would live somewhere and not contribute and engage with where they live....
@stephenboyd4934
11 ай бұрын
Foreigner's can no longer buy by the coast anymore, Central Portugal is only possible now
The abandoned building problem is frequently caused by the inheritance laws. Upon the death of a person the estate is divided up equally among living relatives or their offspring. This can lead to a property being owned by dozens of individuals, many of whom are difficult to trace.
@SailingCartagena
5 ай бұрын
@@lindaj71 Mostly not, but no matter the law defines to whom the property goes. Generation by generation divided down into smaller portions
This is probably one of the most brutally honest and real videos an American on KZread has made about Portugal. Thank you Dave
@specialroast5411
Жыл бұрын
It also looked like he was reading off a teleprompter at times
@jackbaldwin3649
Жыл бұрын
@@specialroast5411 And? It's not a movie.
@carlosfigueira5076
11 ай бұрын
Well you know very litle about Portugal...
@Diogohenriquescaralho
11 ай бұрын
@@carlosfigueira5076 I know how to spell little
@InGrindWeCrust2010
11 ай бұрын
@@specialroast5411 It's typical for anyone who makes a video to script it. 🤦🏽♂️
Americans and everyone are welcome here and you are not driving up prices of housing. This problem is way more complicated (by policy) than having americans and foreigners as scape goats
PORTUGAL ❤LOVE ❤ AMERICANS 🇺🇲& 🇨🇦! YOU ARE WELCOME 🌞🇵🇹 !
Porto is at the same latitude as NY, not Maine. This winter in Porto had about 6 weeks of solid rain followed by playing beachfront streetball in a t shirt at Castelo do Queijo in January while people in NY were shovelling snow. Winter was never cold enough to interfere with bilingual tennis lessons in an unheated bubble.
I've lived in Portugal for almost 4 years. I think a lot of things that people notice when moving here are just because you are new and aware. The mold issue is the same near any coastal or mountainous region, the housing market is the same in the states. Minimum wage in Portugal is right there with US minimum wage. The biggest difference is that in Portugal you still have healthcare on minimum wage. If you are coming to Portugal, remember you are an immigrant, purchase private healthcare so you do not take advantage of the system, remember the revolution wasnt that long ago and changes are still happening, don't bitch about waiting for anything, and above all remember you are here by the grace of the Portuguese government and its people.
@krystynaliebowitz6554
8 ай бұрын
Americans do have a sense of entitlement. But it all depends on what your particular station in life is. If retired, do not have family back in your original country that you will miss, are not looking for a job and have a reliable source of income, things will be quite different for you. If you are not adverse to learnng the language, open to meeting people and having a whole new life experience, you're ahead of the game.
@aquelpibe
8 ай бұрын
Well said.
@roberthaworth8991
4 ай бұрын
Portugal could do very well for itself if it offered extra visas to financially self-sufficient who flee the U.S. should Trump win. In fact, this should be an EU-wide, one-time program. The arrivals would be wealthy, relatively well-educated, and progressive, - a boon to any European society.
@roberthaworth8991
4 ай бұрын
*Americans*
I lived in Marbella, Spain for a year. I LOVE the slower pace! In Reno, I get 30 minutes for lunch, which is quite the departure from the 2-3 hour lunches I enjoyed in Marbella!
As a Portuguese-American, I suggest anyone watching this that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It’s common knowledge that Portugal is the sunniest country in Europe. He couldn’t even get that right
As a Portuguese-American I can attest that this video is incredibly accurate. I noticed the drone shot of my beloved Lagoa de Obidos & Foz do Arelho beach that is just minutes from my father's village. Your thoughts on the climate are accurate and I did spend some time in my grandmother's house as a kid during a Portuguese winter and yes the humidity inside the house and the moisture on the tiles is something I remember well. But comparing it to winters here in New England its a piece of cake lol. Overall great videos!! Keep them coming they are quenching my "saudades"
@marinarios9758
Жыл бұрын
As a Portuguese-Brazilian-American I 100% agree with you! Hello from San Diego, California :)
@jackbaldwin3649
Жыл бұрын
@@marinarios9758 I've been to San Diego many times. Is the weather similar to SD along the Portuguese coast? Thank you!
@marinarios9758
Жыл бұрын
@@jackbaldwin3649 I would say it is almost the same weather. I alway hear people saying that up north, in the Porto area is colder than Lisbon. I was in Porto last September and the weather was as same as the weather in Lisbon. You should visit the country, you will enjoy I'm sure:)
@jackbaldwin3649
Жыл бұрын
@@marinarios9758 Thank you! I can't wait to visit!
@susiex6669
Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Montreal Canada. Winter in Portugal is not winter. I went to the Azores for Christmas one year and horrified my family by expressing my wish to go walking on the beach. They told me I shouldnt, its "winter". Theres no snow. You can get by wearing a sweater, no jacket. At its worst, the weather is like a cool autumn day.
Although the numbers of Americans immigrating are not significant on a national scale in Portugal, they are now very noticeable in some specific towns, e.g some places on the Algarve. You haven't spent much time in the Algarve if you see it as cloudy in the winter. Like Califórnia it has periods of rain in winter and spring, and it is cold in the winter, but not below freezing on the Algarve coast. And daytimes are usually sunny. The other downside of being in Portugal is a relative lack of access to activities and serious culture, especially if you come from a big city.
Do NOT SLAM any door anywhere, car, house, etc. Or even close a door in a hurry. They hate that.
My sister (lives in the USA) worked with several Portuguese women many years ago. She loved them and they loved her. She always talked so fondly of them and they were always bringing her Portuguese bread! Wish I had gotten to know them as well.
6:40 American passport renewal: 10 weeks. Portugal: same day, 1 week at most. California drivers license expiration: 10 years. Portugal: when you die. American citizenship process: insulting and minimum a decade if you're lucky enough to be from Europe. Portugal: demonstrate a genuine interest in becoming Portuguese and then welcome brother
When comparing costs of living between Portugal and another country, you really have to bear in mind that the salaries here are very low; around 50% of Portuguese take home 1,000 Euros a month or less. If you don't have some form of income from outside the country, you will have real problems with the cost of rents, etc. Also remember that when you live in Portugal for more than 183 days a year, you become tax resident, and you are taxable on your global income (you have to declare and pay tax on all foreign income - salaries, dividends, pensions etc.) Also bear in mind the Social Taxes, which are in addition to the Income Taxes that NHR gives a temporary reduction in. Then there is Capital Gains tax - again, not reduced by NHR. That's how the Portuguese Government gets it's money from enticing people to move here...
@MarinaLaroche
11 ай бұрын
Good points.
@adelesr4965
5 ай бұрын
António Silva Não podemos comparar o ordenado minimo em Portugal com países Alemanha Luxemburgo ou Dinamarca etc.etc. Mas visto bem as coisas os portuguêses fazem melhor vida do que os pôvos dos países que mencionei. Português sai de casa para ir trabalhar vai ao bar beber café o português sai do trabalho vai ao bar beber cerveja vinho e comer petiscos etc. Outros pôvos de outros países é casa trabalho - trabalho casa,afinalmente o português faz melhor vida do que um alemão por exemplo,vá para Alemanha viver e fazer a mesma vida que voçê faz em Portugal vá ao bar todos dias beber café e beber vinho cerveja e comprar um maço de tabaco por dia e veja se o ordenado minim alemão chega. Por exemplo 1 copo de vinho voçê bebe em Portugal por 60 centimos na França paga 2 euros por um copo de vinho aqui bebe um café por 80 centimos quanto paga na França ou na Alemanha. O Luxemburgo tem um pordenado minimo muito alto mas metado do ordenado é para o aluguer da casa e o resto água Luz comida etc.etc. Desculpem o meu português praticamente a merda é a mesma no estrangeiro ganham muito em Portugal se ganha pouco,mas os portuguêses fazem vida de rico.Se em Portugal querem poupar dinheiro façam igual o que os portuguêses imigrantes por esta Europa fora que façam igual casa trabalho -trabalho casa. Eu sei do falo eu passei por alguns países europeus trabalhei.Alemanha França Holanda Suécia etc. O melhor imigrante é o marinheiro na marinha mercante anda em cima do mar e conheçe países de passagem,tem cama e comida e não paga nada esse sim tem a vantagem de ajuntar dinheiro.
Sure hoping you have some Solid data to present covering the last 3-5 years. My experience is that many people say things on KZread. Thanks Dave
@tinglestingles
11 ай бұрын
I cannot any data on returning US citizens. SEF do not publish this data and there is no information from SEF on 2022 at all - probably due to the re-organisation in progress. Starting to look like clickbait.
I'm planning to move to Portugal sometime next year and what I'm hearing from there saddens me. The country and it's culture will always belong to the Portuguese and it's grim that a lot of wealthy foreigners can't comprehend that. As a foreign national myself, I would never try to impose my way of life on the locals and treat them like shit, like they're beneath me, just because I earn more than them. The least that you can do is to make an effort to learn Portuguese, understand and respect the local traditions/ culture and lastly, treat people well and be a decent human being.
@francisfree2010
Жыл бұрын
💙🎉🎉
@rainertuominen4242
Жыл бұрын
I believe this problem with rapidly rising property values is similar to that of the New Zealand. Small population within the country but huge foreign property demand.
@bharatjeevan
Жыл бұрын
@@rainertuominen4242 Unfortunately I think this is a problem that's not going to go away soon. Remote work is here to stay and you'll see an influx of digital nomads, immigrants etc. A lot of folk from places like The UK- where a cost of living crisis is underway- will relocate to other regions in Europe, Asia etc. Americans have already relocated- and will continue to do so- to places like Mexico, Portugal, Spain etc. I reckon Mexico, especially Mexico City will have a huge problem to address in the coming years.
@Imsolaris
Жыл бұрын
Well from what I heard it is now difficult to get normal pt café and pastries in some better parts of Lisbon and Porto. So thanks for coming here and say this. If I'm back to my country and I'm to seat at a café I will want a bica and a bolo de arroz. I don't want the server to look at me weird and apologise for not knowning what coffee I do want and not having bolo de arroz only muffins or pasteis de nada. I will go Karin, not on the server but on the manager for being fucking stupid to strip traditional option of the menu. Context: traditionally when one asks for coffee in Portugal is an espresso. That is de default. Be aware portugueses might be difficult to learn, that being said you can start speaking it poorly that people usually don't care all that much, as long as you make some effort we are happy.
@bharatjeevan
Жыл бұрын
@@Imsolaris Hey man. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Like I said, I'm real sorry if the tourists and nomads are making it worse for you guys. My reason for wanting to move to Portugal, is to genuinely experience what the country offers authentically- the rich culture, the cuisine, the architecture, the incredible geography etc. I wouldn't want it to be turned into another California. And as for the language barrier, I don't mind learning it all. Actually I would love it. I don't want to live an isolated life there. I want to be able to walk the streets and interact with the locals so I'll give my best to learning it.
Interesting points you raise here! Portugal will still be forever my favourite place
Hello Dave! I stumbled upon your video and watched it until the end. I'm Portuguese, I was born in Lisbon, and I live in the center. It looks like we can't can't trust newspapers ! Very few Americans come across me. The country has a lot of Brits, a lot, but not American citizens. Yes, it is true that there is not much sympathy for Americans, or rather for American culture, but this is the case throughout Europe, not just here. Nevertheless, each person will probably be welcomed as an individual. I don't know what your experience is, but the North is more welcoming. If this is an example of your videos, I can only recommend it because everything you said is true. People should always be aware that each country has its own culture and its own problems and that a lot will depend on the adaptability skills and profile of those who arrive. Also, the experience of living here can be completely different in the north or in the south, in Lisbon or Castelo Branco, despite Portugal being a small country.
@InBrz
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY 100% correct, entitled yuppies from the US are mostly NOT WANTED anywhere, including IN their country The only thing worse is an arrogant ENTITLED drunk BRIT
@Ilebuda
Жыл бұрын
In a way, Americans are only for themselves to blame for having a bad reputation in Europe (and parts of Asia), although of course each individual will be accepted as long as they want to adapt. There are plenty of Brits, Germans and Scandinavians (like myself) in Portugal - especially in Algarve and Greater Lisboa (Estoril 🥰).
@maureencopeland5300
Жыл бұрын
America has many cultures what you mean by the American culture? I'm from the deep south our culture and food are different from the rest of the country. You need to travel more.
@kimkeller3724
Жыл бұрын
I traveled for the first time there and was mostly in Lisboa last November. Everyone who we met was polite and didn't treat me any different once they found out I was from the USA. I was traveling with a friend who originally was from Africa and has done a lot of traveling. The one thing we are asked in the three countries I traveled with him is " What's going on over there?" (meaning.... USA). The USA is very multicultural just like Europe. USA definitely has its problems. There is entitlement everywhere in the world. Most people who do travel to Europe from the USA come with open minds and heart. We travel to learn history and experience culture, with the bonus of making friends. I will return again someday to experience the summer months.
@jesselivermore2291
11 ай бұрын
@@maureencopeland5300 most Europeans see Americans as fast paced and somewhat egocentric and self absorbed.
Your channel is the best. I am Brazilian, living in USA about 23 years. Can’t wait to get out of here and moving to a Portugal. No $$ there but life quality I will have for sure. Thank you for all tips
@sandraalmeida5358
Жыл бұрын
Os seus compatriotas são ao contrário de si, só vêm para Portugal, porque não conseguem o visto para os EUA
@izabellavianna5464
Жыл бұрын
I am in the same boat, my friend...Portugal is looking better by the minute!
@marinarios9758
Жыл бұрын
Me too! I am brazilian, living in California for the last 30 years! I am getting ready to retire hopefully very soon. I am purchasing my little farm in Portugal, can't wait to move to portugal, I lived there for 3 years when as was a child and only have great memories every time I go back . :)
@dennynisevic7848
Жыл бұрын
Why not back to Brazil
@araci515
11 ай бұрын
Yaaaa Brazil é bem melhor.
It would be nice if you made a video about the impact all these expats have on the local community. All these reviews are utterly one sided: from the expat point of view. I think its important to create self awareness that expats are not all good. They change local culture for the worse. Maybe they could have some respect for the nation they are a guest in. Portugal is not a holiday resort.
@InBrz
Жыл бұрын
People from the US usually ruin ANY PLACE they go to in droves, nothing new. Ask people in Oregon, Arizona, Texas and Wash state
@hoodatdondar2664
11 ай бұрын
Saying they change for the worse is saying no expats are any good, objectively. Not much better.
@InGrindWeCrust2010
11 ай бұрын
@@hoodatdondar2664 I think they meant the overall effect isn't positive, which I'd have to agree with.
@MarinaLaroche
11 ай бұрын
So therefore what you're saying in reverse is that Portuguese immigrating exemple to Canada are detrimental there.
@qixxor2075
11 ай бұрын
@@MarinaLaroche interesting point, ask yourself why suddenly “Quebec ramps up French language requirements for immigrants”? Why is it so wrong that expats make for once a video about the negative effects expats have on local culture? Since we realized over tourism is bad (ask Venice, Amsterdam), so is over abundance of expats. They come for the local culture and lifestyle, but end up destroying it and replacing it with the expat bubble. I’m not Portuguese, but I’ve seen many regions change for the worse by expats into some permanent English speaking holiday resort. Why should we want this?
I have visited Portugal many times. My first visit was in 1968. I think one should not underestimate the difficulty of learning the Portuguese language. While technically it is a romance language like Spanish or French, it is pronounced in a completely different way from, say, Italian. It is as if there are no vowels in the language at all. To the untrained ear it sounds almost like a Slavic language. Now, I am not being critical, just reporting. So anyone who thinks they can "pick up" peninsular Portuguese (as opposed to the Brazilian variant) are fooling themselves. It takes lots of work and time, and above all a serious commitment.
@JorgeSantos-cy4xo
7 ай бұрын
I'm portuguese living in UK for years and I can confirm - we definitely sound a mix of russian/arabic
Interesting what you say about being 32 and not meeting any Americans your age. I'm British, now aged 65, but through my entire life, I barely ever met an American my age. Not when I was 25, 35, 45, ever. Yet I have met plenty of South Africans, Ozzies, Kiwis, and loads of others from non-English speaking countries. I think it is because the American barely gets any vacation - just two weeks and you're unlikely to go long haul for travel. That's a big shame for your country - travel broadens the mind.
@matildesantos4215
Жыл бұрын
Nick Oakley, when I was younger I traveled extensively to Europe , including Southern Europe. One Summer , I visited Mykonos and on the van that picked us up from the airport to the hotel was a young woman who lived 5 minutes from me in the US..Strange coincidence but it was not unusual for me to meet Americans from all walks of life vacationing in Europe .
I wonder what percentage of Americans who move to other countries (like Japan or France) also end up leaving? Just for comparison. My cousin moved to Japan thinking it was fantastic but soon realized his upward mobility there at work was very very limited because he is not native Japanese, although he speaks it extremely well.
@kkjjqrysdgadff7782
Жыл бұрын
In fairness Japan is probably the most difficult developed country to move to as a foreigner. People are quite friendly on the surface but you will ALWAYS be treated as a temporary resident. ALWAYS.
@carefulconsumer8682
Жыл бұрын
@@kkjjqrysdgadff7782 Sounds abut right. He wasted several years of his career there. While his friends were being promoted and moving up the ladder back home in the USA, he pretty much didn't go anywhere. He did have a great cultural time, but he paid a heavy price by being stuck in a low position back home. A big trade off.
@JaceLightwood0623
11 ай бұрын
Japanese people are very racist.
@paulheydarian1281
11 ай бұрын
@@carefulconsumer8682 It all depends what you want out of life. Being a corporate lackey or slave isn't for everyone either. Some people cannot function in a corporate environment and prefer to travel and live overseas. They should be able to do that and not see it as a waste of time.
@pedrob3953
11 ай бұрын
Japan is famously nativist and xenophobic. Nobody should be expected to integrate into their society, not even other East Asians.
Informative video on Portugal.. enjoyed the way you presented it!
Muito interessante a sua visão de Portugal! Continue postando mais vídeos, parabéns!
The most well done analysis of my country…..congratulations. When trying to learn Portuguese please find a Portuguese from Portugal learning process, not Portuguese from Brazil, they say it’s easier and we understand but, the accent is different. Spoiler alert……independent your level of Portuguese you will never lose your American accent 😂
I am not American but South African and will be apply to move to Portugal within the next year. Thank you for this video.
@alexs1002
7 ай бұрын
Portugal is much safer than South Africa, Jews.😂
Thank you for the video, Dave. I love seeing both sides of the coin.
I'm in Spain. Haven't watched TV since I left the UK a decade+ ago. I have no idea who any celebrity is, except from good films and comedians. It's one of the best aspects of my new life. No more talking drool about things that don't matter and people who have no brains and can't handle being famous.
Good honest portrait. If I may contribute, there is a huge gap depending on which "part" of the US you are coming from. Not states/regions, but mostly metropolitan areas or small town/suburbs. If you come from metro-USA then the culture shock is huge! Even if you live in Lisbon. The speed/energy level/activity level is very different. Not necessarily a bad thing... but almost all the status or motivation/reward system is different. The array and quality of goods and services available is much much less. Tex-mex is just a small token of it. Not that there is no high quality on offer, but it is different and a bit limited. Now, if you come from small-town-America, you will feel less of a shock. You are probably used to a less diversified market offer and you are likely to appreciate the better quality of basic things such as infrastructure, food quality, etc.
I know you can't be completely objective in a video of such a short duration but there are a few of your statements that are a bit, let's say, unfounded generalizations. First, Portugal is not as far north as Maine, it is closer to the latitude of Washington D.C. With California as a reference, we see that Chaves is roughly on the same latitude as Crescent City, and Faro is on the same latitude as San José. San José has a Mediterranean climate as does Faro. Second, you mentioned long and gloomy winters. Where would that be? I live in the far north, as far north as you can get, and winters are now, with global warming, only about two months. We have chilly but sunny days throughout most of the winter. Rarely do we have cloudy days. As for the bureaucracy, once you get your first documents (residence card, tax identification number, driver's license substituted, and social security number, you rarely have any contact with the government. If you get Portuguese citizenship, as I did as soon as I could, you have zero contact with bureaucracy. I don't see how a slower pace of life, the food, or learning a different language would make anyone leave Portugal. As for Mexican restaurants, I tend to agree with you although it definitely would not be a reason for leaving. When we want authentic Mexican food we drive for an hour to Ourense, Galicia where there are several Mexican restaurants, with cooks who actually learned to cook in Mexico. I can get my tortillas and a lot of other Mexican products at major supermarkets in Portugal or at Carrefour in Ourense, including my favorite Valentina hot sauce.
@psource2305
Жыл бұрын
Portugal is at the same latitude as New Jersey/New York but has a climate similar to central, central-north California.
@nyunixguru
Жыл бұрын
Obrigad
I've enjoyed your perspectives on life in portugal greatly. My wife and I are spending a month in portugal this summer, doing some touristy things, of course, but also scouting out the country a bit. We live in coastal Washington State on the a Olympic Peninsula, so cold and rainy winters are already the norm for us. This will be our first time in Europe, so very exciting. KZread has been an extraordinary resource to learn a bit of Portuguese language, (which I don't seem to be able to absorb as quickly as when I was much younger, but better a little than none). Thanks for your insights & shared experiences.
@DRamos-jr8xg
11 ай бұрын
Don´t come.
Long gloomy winters in Portugal? Try England. We travelled from England to spend Christmas in Portugal some years ago and revelled in the warm sunny weather. Okay, it wouldn't have seemed warm to Californians, but it was fine for us. The temperature was around 16-17 C during the best part of the day, the sun shone, and flowers were coming up through the grass. It was windy on a couple of days.
Regarding those 30k Italians living in Portugal, I suspect most of them are Brazilians with italian nationality (Italy grants nationality to Brazilians with Italian parents/grandparents/whatever). As they enter Portugal with their Italian passport they are counted as Italians.
@joaovitorribeirosouza3916
Жыл бұрын
I second this. I'm brazilian myself, with portuguese citizenship, but I could also have italian citizenship and lots of brazilian friends living here in Portugal hold italian citizenship
@Alfablue227
Жыл бұрын
Yes there are some Brazilians with Italian citizenship, but they are few. Italians have been coming to Portugal, getting born here and living in Portugal 🇵🇹 since more than 2000 years ago, when they were called the "Romans".
@Maria-js9ou
Жыл бұрын
@@Alfablue227 WTF ?
@Alfablue227
Жыл бұрын
@@Maria-js9ou WTF, what? That's the truth!
@Maria-js9ou
Жыл бұрын
@@Alfablue227 Do they have italian passport ?
I was there and even got my residency card. I gave it a real shot. It just didn’t feel like home. I moved to Spain instead. It’s home now.
@GuilhermeS123
Жыл бұрын
Americans are the MINORITY among ALL expats in Portugal. Less than 6 thousand people 😆 Even tough you guys find a way to lie to yourselves to think you somehow matter. Pathetic
@MichaelPineda-fx3kj
10 ай бұрын
residency card , howd u get that? yes spain is nice, I over stayed for 5 years and then left, then went back and they let me in even tho I had a 5 year ban LOL They dont care in Spain, Love it. and Im gonna re-enter again later. its very relaxed there in spain. theyre not a police state like the USA . Americans think the whole world agrees with " law and order"
Nice work ...I am Portuguese born and raised for over 53 years
Sorry to say, Portugal has such a wonderful and diverse Mediterranean healthy cousine and gastronomy, such an amazing pastry and wines, who cares about some Mexican tacos or Thay food. There are Mexican and Thay restaurants, but people, normally, prefer local and tradicional healthy food. This is like going to US and want to eat some "cozido à portuguesa" or "pasteis de Belem", if to be found it probably wouldn't taste the same. So, if Americans want to came to Portugal (and you are very welcome) this is not "little America", this is a sovereign country with 1000 years history. PS. Do never, ever put ice cubes in the wine......that´s a blasphemy for the Portuguese Culture.
@Gewehr_3
10 ай бұрын
No, I do not agree. When you live abroad you definitely will get home sick, and for some people eating the foods they grew up with helps. Also, Portuguese food is amazing, yes, however it lacks some elements found in the cuisines you mentioned, the spiceness of Mexican food and the sweet and savory type taste in Thai food.
Inadequately heated houses were a common occurrence all over Mediterranean, only changing in the last two or three decades. Heck, even our hotels often lacked heating.
@genzod7940
10 ай бұрын
And AC....even hotels in all the Mediterranean.
@bazoo513
10 ай бұрын
@@genzod7940 Only old, small ones, in my experience.
@ubuntufan2139
9 ай бұрын
"all over the Mediterranean" yes, but contrary to most Mediterranean countries, Portugal's coast is all Atlantic. No one in southern and eastern Spain, Italy or Greece knows how cold a summer night can be in Portugal. Not to mention the winter..
@bazoo513
9 ай бұрын
@@ubuntufan2139 Fair enough, but when _bora_ starts blowing in Croatia, you s**t icecubes.
@k-dogg9086
7 ай бұрын
Who needs heating in the Mediterranean?? Do to have winters that drop below freezing 32F/0C and even lower than that?? Hell, I think that 45F/7.2C is cold but survivable. Especially warmer. The body gets used to it. I spent the fall and winter in a tent then a trailor and in the winter it fell below 0F/-17C for days on end with only a space heater. It never got above 45 when it got that cold, and only to the 60sF/18C on average cold days. If I didn't have that space heater, I would not be here writing this. Yet you think you got it bad???
Portugal is like south America without the crime. All you need to know. A good place to live
@DRamos-jr8xg
11 ай бұрын
You bring crime with the poverty your damned money brings.
@zainulabdin1720
11 ай бұрын
❤ great 😊
"Also, the 'America is the best country in the world thing' just makes us look like a bunch of assholes everywhere we go" 🤣This made me laugh out loud, and it's so true. American exceptionalism is, in my mind, the one thing above all that makes Americans the target of both ridicule and disdain in the rest of the world.
Why is pretty much every American who moves to Europe expecting authentic Mexican food over here? You have it in the U.S. because they're your neighbors, obviously, and make up a large immigrant group. The 10 Mexicans that made to this continent are most likely in Spain. 😊 I just don't understand the recurring expectation...
Watched the whole video and still don't understand why 50% of Americans who move there leave. None of the problems listed sound like deal breakers to me. I don't retire for five years or so, and I do wonder if the place will change by then. Will it still be affordable? How about the water temperature at these beautiful beaches? Do I need a wet suit?
@broken_abi6973
Жыл бұрын
I think the main two reasons are sometimes adapting to a different culture is difficult and second, the taxes. I agree that if you take everything into consideration, you probably still save more if you live in Portugal, but many people have this slightly irrational negative reaction when they see a considerable part of their salary being eaten away by taxes.
@bartstewart8644
Жыл бұрын
@@broken_abi6973 lndeed. What about Social Security? Do you know if they're taxing that?
I've been to portugal many times. I'm from the UK. I like the slower pace but I'm not sure I'd like it if I lived there. It's certainly nice to get a change of pace for a couple of weeks for sure.
@MarinaLaroche
11 ай бұрын
What is it personnally that doesn't fully appeal to you ? Thanks.
Great video and good analysis of the differnces.
Nice video! Thanks for doing it! 😊
Also about the Winter, like i said i live in Central Portugal, we barely get clouds here. It does get cold but it barely rains, its mostly sunshine year round. Portugal is a small country but has a very diverse climate so it all depends on where you live
@MarinaLaroche
11 ай бұрын
What area in Central P are you ? I read recently that 75 % of Spain is now desertic (fires) and I'm concerned about Central Portugal since it's near. The fact you say it rarely rains is not that reassuring. Am I missing something ? Thanks.
@CusterPlays
11 ай бұрын
@@MarinaLaroche You are not missing anything. Portugal schorching hot Summers make it extremely dangerous during Summer time. Wild fires are a massive danger here
@CusterPlays
11 ай бұрын
@@MarinaLaroche Santarem District
@MarinaLaroche
11 ай бұрын
@@CusterPlays Would you say the western part of Santarem is also or likely will be dangerous with fires ? I'm thinking long-term.
@CusterPlays
11 ай бұрын
@@MarinaLaroche It all depends where you live. If you live in a city, its fine. If you live in the middle of nowhere and the forests arent cleaned it might become a problem.
If you were Portuguese you would say that the food isn't so good as in Portugal (specially in videos about England or America 😅), COMPARE SOME DISHES and that it's difficult to find certain ingredients in some countries. But an American in these kind of video talk about Thai, Chinese, Indian and mexican restaurants. Where is the comparison between dishes and ingredients availability? What did Americans eat before globalization?
@lxportugal9343
Жыл бұрын
Steaks... I guess
@susansisson366
Жыл бұрын
Catia Alves -- Americans ate rather plain and uninteresting food that tended toward quantity, rather than quality. For example, my grandmother, born in 1897 in Duluth, Minnesota, cooked a small amount of meat, mostly potatoes and a veg of some kind at the noon or evening meal. They had a large garden, and she canned a great deal of their food. Very little in the way of sauces or spices, but she put out homemade apple sauce frequently and there were always pickled cucumbers on the table at lunch or dinner. They hardly ever ate at a restaurant, and only when on the road. My grandfather would stop and order a short stack of pancakes if he needed an energy boost when far from home.The food revolution came in with Julia Child in the sixties, and has continued evolving ever since.
Dinner at 9 pm is mostly a "city thing" :) - in rural areas is at 6 pm but mostly at 7pm. Or at least in northern Portugal/center Portugal. I come from a rural family in the north, and notice quite some differences (although born and raised in Lisbon, of course I have lots of cultural habits from rural north, still). And one of the contrasts is in dinner time (and lunch time), as my Lisbon friends do tend to have lunch later, and dinner (them: 13h/14h lunch + 20h/21h dinner; me and my family at 12h lunch + 19h dinner).
Tá fixe pa! I lived in Portugal 2009-11 when I was roughly 20 years old. This is mostly confirmed by my experience. Most Americans should understand your material standard of living SHALL go down unless you bring a lot of money or have a sweet opportunity lined up. They just arent big into convenience and comfort like we are and you must learn to live with less at a higher cost. Unless you're from San Francisco or NYC or you're homeless in which case it might be better? But the slower pace, more culture and history, greater appreciation for enjoyment and art may balance this out. Portuguese are not as friendly and warm as say, Latin Americans, so if you're looking for that, look elsewhere. They tend to be closed off and mistrusting of outsiders until you get close to them. Many pros and cons, more pros than cons overall. But dont go thinking you're out of some US hellscape and into a European paradise. You will be disabused of this.
Great video. Very correct about the small number of americans. My wife and i retired , from nyc, to a portuguese village 4.5 years ago. We have been very welcomed and call it home. We are though, because of the novelty, refered to as the americans, in an endearing way. I think many of those who return wanted a nicer, gentler, and warmer usa rather than remembering that we are not expats but rather immigrants.
@wheaton24
6 ай бұрын
I am contemplating a move to Portugal. I am retired and live in Florida now but spent most of my life in suburban NYC. What resources did you use to decide where to live? I’d like to visit soon and look at upscale apartments/condos in an area with easy access to Lisbon (and the airport). My husband will stay in Florida most of the time but will visit. I prefer a more temperate climate and modern construction in an area where I can walk to shops and restaurants. Please let me know your suggestions for setting up a visit to view different areas where we might look. Thanks!
I am a Portuguese, living in Coimbra. I admire and respect your great Nation 🇵🇹 🇺🇸. Your video was very well done and touches many valid points, with intelligence and humor.
I'm Portuguese and I moved to London from Lisbon 18 years ago. This is a very thorough and accurate video. Bureaucracy is definitely one of the top 3 reasons that made me leave, as you say it's a nightmare for us too, but I think 1 aspect is missing only for those planning to work for Portuguese companies with Portuguese managers and colleagues: the working culture is terrible. There is a culture of 'desenrascanço', where people take pride in doing the least possible work, delivering the bare shoddy minimum and getting away with it. This of course comes from the fact that if they do more than that, they don't feel that's recognised and rewarded by their managers, so most Portuguese give up on this and derive fulfillment from what they do on the weekend with food, nature, beach and so on. If you take pride in doing a good job, you'll be up against this and Portugal is not for you.
@SlimForever007
5 ай бұрын
This is a problem. I think I would fit in better in Switzerland where good enough is not good enough.
@soundleague
5 ай бұрын
The way you just described Portugal sounds amazing 😂
@pest_4109
5 ай бұрын
@@soundleague 😂 depends how you look at it I guess... Personally I like to feel fulfilled with what I do Monday to Friday, not just on weekends
@anibalfernando3027
4 ай бұрын
Good and bad are everywhere...i live in the UK for about fortuna years and i can tell you all...Life in here is not a Pic Nic..when we stil have Laws in function from the 18th century ..but this is home.
@soundleague
4 ай бұрын
I feel you. Nothing more frustrating than old outdated laws.@@anibalfernando3027
About the houses abandoned, I have 2 by the shore but between 3 brothers and sisters living in US and not agreeing on anything they will stay there until the government takes over, we have thousands of Portuguese who don’t even know they own property in Portugal left by the grandparents.
@susiex6669
Жыл бұрын
This is true. Took years to sell my grandmothers house and I encouraged my mother and aunt (who grew up in Portugal) to do it because if they hadnt done it and it had fallen in to the hands of grandchildren, we are too removed from Portugal to have known how to proceed with selling it.
I spent two weeks with my expat friends who live in the Saldanha area of Lisboa. They’ve been there for a few years and they love it! I loved it too and can’t wait to head back in a few months. I’m 3.5 years away from retirement and Portugal is tugging at my heart. Thanks for the great videos!
@AdvancedSoul
Жыл бұрын
Immigrant friends you mean? :-)
@joaomatias
Жыл бұрын
@@AdvancedSoul He means "privileged people with money"
@joeblow812
Жыл бұрын
I mean friends in their 70s with money from years of hard work and saving. They lived in Chennai for five years before heading to Lisbon. I don’t know how long they’ll stay. They are still citizens of the USA. Why are you so judgmental?
@matildesantos4215
Жыл бұрын
Immigrant is someone who moves to another country looking for better economic opportunities. These folks are retired , wealthy or work remote. They don't depend on Portugal 's wages, the lowest in Europe .They can live anywhere in the world with their own money and stock portfolio. Portugal wants them , why not ?
@caliberto5087
Жыл бұрын
Expat friends? They are immigrants. English speaking people do not consider themself like emigrants...
As a Portuguese/American I say, When living in Portugal, either like it or leave it, there are two International Airports, Airports with Airplanes..... :) so, if you don't like it, just leave and don't come back...... Regarding the bureaucracy, IT IS NOT TRUE.... YES, OF COURSE there is bureaucracy, but the way you and most people ARROGANTLY claim, it is way off and stereotyped.... I have lots of experience doing business in the USA and it too, including many other countries, are all full of bureaucracy.... in the USA is not the same/simple as it used to be in the past years when it comes to bureaucracy........ and NO, Portugal is not like 3rd World South, Central and African countries where you know someone that can pull the strings in your favor..... unfortunately, people from the US/Canada and other ignorant ARROGANT Anglo countries confuse Portugal with many 3rd world corrupt countries.
@psource2305
Жыл бұрын
Mainland Portugal has four international airports (Lisboa, Porto, Faro and Beja). Ponta Delgada, Lajes, and Funchal are also international airports located in insular Portugal.
Thank you so much ! I almost had this weird idea of going there !
Hey buddy I’m seriously exploring relocating to Algarve. This was a great video, delighted to follow and found your channel. If I relocate, you’ve got an all expenses paid week to show me the ropes!