That makes so much sense! I don't think any pundit has took the time to break the problems down. Finally someone has ❤

Interesting take. Seems like Rashford stands out as someone we need to move on from. Also reminds me of how much Sir Alex struggled before things came together. Ten Hag has 1 year left on his contract. Let's see how next year goes before pulling the trigger on another manager.

@mikester4896

2 ай бұрын

I think Rashford's weakness is Luke Shaw since he plays far better with Shaw behind him so maybe he needs that LB that has pace, overlaps and can get back and defend. Perhaps if we can get that type of player in, maybe it can improve his form. If not, then he'll have to go.

@timotim8722

2 ай бұрын

@@mikester4896We shouldn’t build our team around him or any other “star” player. This approach was proven wrong so many times. And by the way Garnacho’s had same fullbacks when he played on the left. And did much better.

@michaelhahn2400

2 ай бұрын

definitely agree, time for Rashford to go.

@krisswalker-tv1yw

2 ай бұрын

Y'all problem is not rashford

@JohnComeOnMan

2 ай бұрын

@@krisswalker-tv1yw Actually, yeah, he is one. Only good in the counter attack and we're trying to get away from that as a primary style of play.

1. Poor transer window. We over spent, barely sold and didnt even bring in the right players. 2.The Casemiro drop off. Same issue we had with Matic, we need a younger Dm hopefully 25 years old or younger. 3. Injuries. No lb all season, most of our goals are from the left side, our Cb's are injury prone, midfield is aging and no quality depth in attack, we only have Hojlund at Cf cause Martial is always injured. 4. System vs players. Our players don't fit the system, alot of them have to be sold. How many utd players can pass, press, carry the ball, keep the ball? This season has shown our cracks in a possession system. We know who we have to sale and where we have to improve.

@ahmedk2405

2 ай бұрын

Spot on

@danielmojekwu6621

2 ай бұрын

Facts 💯

60 different injuries in one season, never been seen before

@joni.sirvio8867

2 ай бұрын

one day i counted missed games by players.. it was then 190

@surpriserakins9067

2 ай бұрын

​@@joni.sirvio8867Newcastle, Brentford, Brighton and Chelsea have had worse with smaller squads.

@Jhelil

2 ай бұрын

@@surpriserakins9067it’s almost like they have better quality squad depth, Owners who care about the club and a good recruitment team

@surpriserakins9067

2 ай бұрын

@@Jhelil how can you say that when Conte had a meltdown about Spurs owners a year ago and Enery joined Villa last season when they were in 16th place! Give credit to those manager for what they have done with the squads they largely inherited.

@adamismael1119

Ай бұрын

​@surpriserakins9067 no they haven't! Statistical utd have had more players out.

Been following for a few months enjoy your analysists. This video explained so well what many fans don't understand why just changing the manager will not fix our issues. That being said hope to more of your content, cheers have a good one

When Van Dyck got injured twice and Liverpool were miles off was it because Jurgen was clueless and his tactics were wrong or was it because of injuries ? Curious to know

@lucasvanwijngaarden670

2 ай бұрын

It was a big loss for Liverpool, but at least they had players that could play the same style with their subs. We don't have a sub that can play a moderately high line the moment we lose Martinez. Which is why whenever our high press gets bypassed there's a gaping hole behind. You can call sticking to the high press despite this stubborn or clueless, but it's defenitely by design and the way Ten Hag wants to play going forward. And do we honestly want to see us defend in a low block and only play for the counter?

One can give reasons why ETH must be sacked but the same person won't have an answer on how the next manager can be successful with the same players. Let's do an activity, just search Pep, Klopp or Arteta's first starting XIs and compare it to now. Not a sniff of those players would be close to the club. People expecting ETH to be successful with these players is like telling Arteta did very well with Lacazette, Elneny, Luiz, Sokratis, Maitland Niles etc. Arsenal got rid of every player from Wenger and Emery's reign systematically whilst keeping & building around Saka, Gabriel, Martinelli and Smith Rowe. They recruited smartly and still needed the 4th season to compete for PL. We can draw so many parallels from that. Build around Kobbie, Højlund, Garnacho and technical experienced players. Ppl might think Xabi Alonso, Amorim, Nagelsmann etc are better than ETH, (I disagree as he is on the same level) but, ok agreed but the "profile" of ETH as a manager is exactly what we needed and need. Strict, demands discipline (was much needed), is pragmatic and not stubborn, experienced enough, UCL experience, tactical acumen & most importantly, works best with youth (very much needed with good talent coming through from the academy). It would be so idiotic to sack a manager who we brought in for a process. Idk why but I feel so hard for ETH to stay and succeed.

@timotim8722

2 ай бұрын

True. Those players have sacked at least 3 managers, blameshifting is in their DNA. We need to replace them one by one.

@luqman2451

2 ай бұрын

Bro you speak facts

@vans9816

2 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@richardahinful7157

2 ай бұрын

Agreed 💯

ten Hag said that his goal is for us to be the best transitioning team in the world so he's asked the team play a different high energy football which is why I think Ten Hag is largely at fault for the injuries, not to say that he's wrong for that though. I still think he's done the right thing in sticking with that philosophy and exposing who can't. The same thing happened with Klopp in his first season where I think they had a ton of injuries. The difference was that ten Hag has done the ironing out in his second season, not his first. It's why Rashford, McTominay and Bruno all start even though they're aren't in form. They can all match the physical standard ten Hag asks of the team and hence don't gey dropped. Sacking ten Hag would be like Liverpool sacking Klopp in his first season before he gets players that fit the philosphy. I think we need another Summer window where we can get centre backs and midfielders capable of the physical, and then we can truly assess ten Hag from there.

@divout6688

2 ай бұрын

Don't compare us with Klopps Liverpool. He secured CL in his first full season, got to the CL-final in his second and won it in his third. Competing for the PL-title in the third and winning it on his fourth. If we were comparable to Liverpool we should at the very least be secure in a top 4 position. (And be in or winning the CL-final next year...)

@divout6688

2 ай бұрын

Oh, and we have also outspent what Liverpool spent when Klopp rebuilt.

@Michael.Koulibaly

2 ай бұрын

@@divout6688 I only make the comparison to say that what's happened to ten Hag this year happened should have ideally happened last year like it did with Klopp with all these injuries and exposing of players who shouldn't be here. Last season, we had a system that protected everyone because it was pragmatic. Let's not ignore Liverpool's success is largely due to their amazing recruitment, as well as getting rid of players who shouldn't be there. ten Hag hasn't had this.

@divout6688

2 ай бұрын

@@Michael.Koulibaly Anyone with eyes could see that Liverpool was improving by the when Klopp came in. Yes, their recruitment is great but not saying that Klopp had a HUGE part of that would be like saying that SAF or Pep didn't play a big part in their clubs success. Klopps first few years is probably the best example of steady improvement without setbacks that you can find in modern football. So saying that what we are experiencing now is anything like what Liverpool experienced when Klopp came is a huge insult to Klopps work. If anything it would point towards ETH being a worse coach because where Liverpool improved even after the first summer where they didn't do any huge spending ETH has gone backwards after two years of huge spending. If the setbacks is due to ETH not having a team that can play his tactics that actually is something that talks against his case of staying due to several reasons in my opinion. 1. He has been given huge sums of money. 2. The recruitment have clearly been heavily influenced by ETH, only Casemiro and Hojlund not being old ETH-targets/players. 3. He has had time to get to know the players and their abilities. 4. He has had time to coach the players his system. Honestly, his only defenses in my opinion is the injuries and the fact that Ole, Mourinho and LVG didn't do much better either. But right now things are kinda pointing towards it being a mistake that we fired Ole.

Saying ten hag is naive is ignorant and arrogant ... we want to see united evolve and this season is growing pains for sure 🦔🇿🇦

@thirdeyepharaoh607

2 ай бұрын

Facts!every elite manager has a bad season look at pep and klopp at city and Liverpool before they started winning titles

Hope ETH has briefed his CEO on his longterm approach on exposing the players?

In Ten Hag we trust ❤

key word some of new signings.....he had a counter attack team last season he did just that hes tryna switch but he still has some players that only thrive on the counter

THIS IS THE BEST ANALYSIS YOU EVEE DONE, AJ….. Bravo!!!! 100 💯 spot on!

Interesting video - I have a hypothesis that the personnel is the reason we haven’t seen the defenders go further up the pitch. It’d be interesting to see what the defensive line was like in games with Martinez and varane etc vs others.

@lancerevo9747

2 ай бұрын

Fastest defender: Kambwala Starts given by ten Hag: 2 the problem is staring us in the face

@timotim8722

2 ай бұрын

@@lancerevo9747He’s just 19 and it’s his first senior season. ETH is easing him in. It’s way better than mistreat him like we did with Rashford - we’ve basically run him into the ground both physically and mentally.

@lancerevo9747

2 ай бұрын

@@timotim8722 Rashford carried United for 2 seasons straight, dude was playing through the shoulder pain barrier with injections. You have no such issues with Kambwala or Alvaro Fernandez, a natural ball playing LB. It's a simple matter of choosing between loyalty to his personal favorites or saving the season and his job by repeating the class of 92 until we can buy reinforcements.

@SuperHarl007

2 ай бұрын

​@@lancerevo9747 this is actually laughable because he did the same with mainoo who's now playing he was on the bench much of last season it's a process he's used to so he knows how to introduce kids into the senior squad he's done it a ton your opinion on that is not better than the experience he's gained over years. It's nothing to do with favourites at all. I know your Argument would be amad he'll get his chance injuries really did him in tbh. That rw would have been his by now if not for being injured at the right time.

@98godofwar

2 ай бұрын

@@lancerevo9747 it’s childish to use one players (rashford) pathway to the first team as a standard for others to come in to the first team. Usuallly for most players the best way to come in to a first team position is a slowly managed transition. This is the same for mainoo, green wood, Ronaldo when he came, and in fact the majority of young players that make it in to starting level players at top club make that slow transition. Under other managers like morinho we had more chance of Casemiro starting at cb than kambwala ever starting. Also you have seen 1 full match from kambwala and suddenly think he’s good enough to play every night. That’s the most immature jumping to conclusion I have ever seen.

Totally agree on the players take. INEOS in the next 4 windows the main priority should be to clean up the squad rather than invest a lot of money on bringing new players. Players that need to leave in the next 2 years are: Greenwood, Sancho, Martial, Maguire, Varane, Lindelof, Evans, AWB, Casemiro, Scott McTominay, Eriksen, Mejbri, Amad. (Personally I would add Bruno Fernandes, because he does not suit the style of play I want my football team to play) Let’s say Ineos finds replacements for the majority of those players. I would expect the squad to be in these situations: GK: Onana, Bayindir Defence: Dalot, Geertruida, Todibo, Branthwaite, Kambwala, Lisandro, Shaw, Theo Hernandez(getting ahead of myself here 😁), malacia Midfield: Kobbie Mainoo, Joao Gomes, Oyedele, Onana, Mount, Fernandes Attack: Garnacho, Rashford, Olise, Antony, Hojlund, Zirkze That brings us to 10-15 departures and 8-10 arrivals. I would expect at least 2 players from the academy to have good seasons next season: Kambwala, Oyedele. For people like Ashworth, Ratclife, Berrada, Wilcox I think that is doable with a bit of loses short term but long term you are set to compete.

Most balanced man united channel. I like how you go into to detail without getting all hyped up about things and look at it from a balanced viewpoint

Great video. You raised a lot of interesting points. One thing I don't understand with the discourse around the players though is that people keep saying that the players aren't "good enough" and that "we have seen it for the past 10 or 8 or whatever years". Apart from the fact that the only person who is still here from 10 years ago is Jonny Evans (who obv just came back) its only Rashy and Shaw who are still here from LVGs time. And them and Dalot are the only starting players who predate Ole (McT arguably this year). The claim that there is some sort of historical evidence of our players incompetence just doesn't convince me, especially when you have to contend with the implication that we spent over a Billion pounds to sign players not competent enough to at least play decent possession football. Immediate success isn't necessary but we haven't even seen it consistently attempted over a period of time. The simple fact of the difficulty of transitioning overnight from a counter-attacking specialty team to a possession side is conveniently ignored. Further evidence lies in the players who are allowed to leave the club for pitiful sums, who go and tear it up in other prem teams. And when you consider the fact that this claim is generally being made by people doing all they can to avoid criticising the manager, it loses even more merit. The fact of the matter is that ETH has already signed 10? permanent transfers, and could have significantly changed the make up of the team significantly enough to cover the weaknesses of the less suitable players injuries notwithstanding. God knows we needed a CB and a CDM this summer prior to signing another 10/8 and goalkeeper. So not only are we let down by the hit or miss talent ID, which can be mitigated by a proper structure above, but also by the mistaken priorities in signings which is much harder to rectify (and maybe other areas of management as well. Single-mindedness perhaps?) Anywho, sorry for the ramble. Love the videos, and keep up the good work 👍

@SuperHarl007

2 ай бұрын

You make good points tbh but like he said in the video a lot has to change in this team and they must "adapt or die" and this time ino emphasis should be on the players we've tried the manager sacking route a lot of times and that has failed and meant we have no consistent spells at the top the only time we have dominated this league has been when we pick a good manager and let him work his magic even when it seemed it would fail same goes for everyone other top team dominating except "farmers leagues" and Chelsea back in the day. It doesn't work. Every team below the top 6 proves this point. It'll be interesting to see what the club owners do though. But I say break the cycle and see what happens.

The problem with this season apart from injuries has been Bruno , Rashford and Casemiro underperforming beyond belief. Great video by the way.

GOD bless you AJ you've nailed it on the head! ive been saying this for too long this squad cant play high line or possession football .

My main concern with ETH is that he doesn't experiment more, in germs of formation and players especially with Bruno, Mount and Eriksen are good alternatives and offer something different. Amad also needed more minutes so we can gauge if he's good enough same with A.Fernandez after a successful loan spell.

@soullessliving9075

2 ай бұрын

Mount has beeen injured all season and Erikson is not the same anymore after that Andy Carroll tackle.

A good assessment that hits to the deeper issues. United have had some real dichotomies over the last few years - Maguire, good defender around the 18 yard box, but no pace or turning circle with a keeper who is always glued to his line. Ole trying to push the team up the pitch and play a pressing game but bring in a very old Ronaldo. I think you're right that the change needs to happen and whenever it did it would be tricky. Injuries (particularly Shaw and Martinez) have not helped.

Why is shaw in there? If shaw is in there you might as well put martinez back in.

Interesting pov. I hadn't thought of it that way before. But it makes a lot of sense.

Love that you bring up another angle of analysis that makes lots of senses

Thank you for ur analysis i think ur the best in this KZread game

A very good video again, but this time highlights the actual problem of our squad. Rather than just surface level analysis...keep up the good work mate

I love this analysis No bias no sentiments just a true analysis and idea of what is going on.

great take, I'm warming to your content keep it coming 👊

Great video AJ, thanks for giving me new perspective on what’s happening, I am agree with you.

Love the take. Couldn't agree more. The Academy is looking strong, focus there and bring in young talent for their potential. Not just buying players for their names.

Yes bro, spot on analysis on the tactical issue. I understand the De Zerbi hype, he might be even better than ETH but what we've seen at ajax makes me believe we can one day become a top team under ETH. The tactics and player profiles atm are a total mismatch but that is what's needed for us to progress quicker. I believe he learned from mou's and OGS mistakes of trying to build further instead of rebuilding. He completed the first season on players terms playing to their adventages and now he's taking a risk trying to adress the obvious issues. I know injuries are just an excuse but the idea of having a high line with Martinez and Shaw becomes quite impossible with maguire and lindelöf taking their place. Now I've always rated Lindelöf as a squad player but he's an awful LB (still baffles me why he didn't get a chance as CDM). What we need right now is ETH persistence on the rebuild, finding the right players for the positions and not the other way around even if it takes a couple of seasons. I'd rather have us playing EL for a few years under ETH with the possibility of seeing us play like ajax did eventually than watching us struggle in CL under new manager and then soon enough see us facing the same problem again.

I would love it, if you make a video on who you think stepped up and which players didn't and needs to go! Apart from that Thanks for your hard work your content let me understand more how football works!

Spot on ❤ We are among the teams that failed to adopt a modern way of playing football. LVG try to adopt this new system of play but the club didn't give him enough time.

Great video. Dan Ashworth should listen to this

I love this video, you calmly and clearly explain everything and you're very correct... We need to sell so many player

We needed to give minutes to Dan gore and oyedele in the midfield and experiment instead of using mctominay so much

He picked up a team that didn't get 60 points and put them on 76 points first season.

Great analysis and I think it is exactly why ETH is the man to take things forward. I suspect we will see more emphasis on younger players and ones from the academy. People are moaning about the last summer transfers, but I think both Onana and Hojlund will repay hugely. Mount we need to see have a run of games free of major injury issues. I think he has been shrewd with academy players, too. Garnacho, Mainoo in particular have been brought through really well. People will always have others they want to see more of - Dialo, or Pelestri etc. but that is the nature of selection and he is picking winners. It hasn't been a pleasant season, but I agree it could be the making of much better times. I really worry that interrupting it with another change of coaches will waste the opportunity.

True, some of players have go, the coach have to be given time he has so much with less players more of them on injury😢

Another factor is the young players that have come through. They are the future and you want them learning to press and run rather than sitting back. The players that he's brought in and youth he's brought through are hard workers. We knew under ragnick that we needed open heart surgery, but we've only been able to swap a few players each window.

@ALEX-ut4pp

2 ай бұрын

Non of the players are learn to press not the youth player coming through not the established first team players. No one has improved under this manager their stats might be better on paper but their on field performance has been the same poor level.

You nailed it

This was an interesting watch

Eric is on right trajectory

Ironically it seems like the squad have actually improved: Garnacho replaced Antony, Hojlund for Weighorst, Mainoo emerged, Dalot is better than AWB, Onana arguably better than DDG…

@Doctor_Kroom

2 ай бұрын

Rashford?

@kingflockthewarrior202

2 ай бұрын

Martinez is the biggest void in this team.

It’s not complicated. The players who made the biggest contribution last season played a ridiculous number of games for United because ETH almost always played his strongest team. On top of that most of those players played in the World Cup and then had a shortened rest last Summer. So Shaw and Martinez who were exceptional last season have barely featured and many of those on the pitch are a jaded version of themselves. On top of that Casemiros legs have gone. Varane’s knees have continued to degrade, Sancho has committed career suicide, Anthony has been badly affected by off the field issues, Rashford has reverted back to his previous worst and we sold our most effective opposition disrupter for £7m and then paid a loan fee of £12m for an ineffective replacement. There are other things you can reasonably hold ETH responsible for but like Eddie Howe at Newcastle he hasn’t gone from very good to bad in a single season. Pep would have struggled with this squad this season.

This is a misleading title.

I have a feeling EtH is just biting the bullet and going ahead to implement his high pressing tactical style with his forwards and midfield. But because he doesn't have CBs who are comfortable holding a high line, he gets them playing a bit deeper to not get caught out badly, believing that conceding shots are better than actually conceding goals. Hence a mishmash of his preferred tactical setup. He could've continued with his pragmatic approach of last season but he also needs to start implementing his ideas. He keeps saying it's a process because he's getting them to play his way albeit one half of it. Once he gets to summer, he'll be able to buy the CBs to play a high line. Then we'll see the real style he wants us to play. At least that's the benefit of the doubt I'm giving him.

This is pure facts and thank you for being critical yet reasonable with your thinking. Ten Hag isn’t without blame for some tactical decisions and in game management but largely this season he’s had to problem solve on the go on how to compensate for the likes of Rashford, Casemiro and injuries to his main ball progressors Lisandro and Shaw. The lack of recovery pace from our CBs has exposed our midfield, Ten Hag has tried to compensate by instructing the back line to block the center but the players can’t defend the cut backs. You can sack him tomorrow and guaranteed we’ll end up in the same position with any other manager in 18 months.. You can’t rebuild without breaking and United fans struggle to understand that.

on point

Spot on. I believe there are alot of players who aren't compatible with a high press or possesion based play. Starting with the back I'd say players that lack abit of positional awareness, technical abilites or pace in some cases is AWB, Maguire, Lindeløf, Evans and Varane. As for midfield we have McTominay, Eriksen, Casemiro(pace and passing has degraded too much for PL's tempo), Amrabat. Note for Casemiro and Eriksen because I believe they are the only ones to read the game well enough to play as a 6. Want to see more of Amrabat to make up my mind tbh. He should be in a team that controls the ball more for his qualities to shine. Only problem I have with forwards are lack of options centrally. Rashford is also very weak defensively and can't be used as a target man. Offers alot of threat on the left tho. Doesn't feel like he's worth over 300k per week being so one sided tho.

The Muppetiers channel was talking about the physical floor of the squad recently saying there's acknowledgement within the club that a lot of the squad has too low a physical floor eg too many just aren't top athletes. I think this really lines up with the point of this video - you discover that through playing across a season, but you also have to bring as many as you can with you so they can reach higher levels fo athleticism. It may be that this season is all about increasing athleticism. It's also potentially a reason why certain players get picked a lot - they've got the athleticism whereas their supposed replacements don't. Still not sure this measn Ten Hag is here next season though.

Very interesting take... one that I hope is correct as it would show ETH to be far more astute than people give him credit for. I wonder if it would be interesting to look at Arteta's second season compared with his third, to see if the same process was apparent?

Interesting analysis and if this really the case, then Hag is looking to invest a lot more because to make such system to work, sustainability is a MAJOR issue knowing the current style of game of EPL team. I think this season is like baptism of fire where only those players with most press resistance capacity would come off as worthy ManUtd players in Ten Hag system

Been watching your videos for some time now about nearly a year. I completely agree with you on this one. One of the best videos you have made and you have earned that like. I too have my doubts about ETH. However what you are saying about ETH putting his players through a 'trial by fire' for an entire season, rotating when injuries force him to, in order to see which players step up shows him who he should be building a team around. At this moment he knows he can only trust about 5 or 6 players (Onana, Maguire, Dalot, Mainoo, Ganacho and Bruno) to be consistent in their performance regardless if he plays a mid or high box. So the big question is will he change his tactics next season if he stays in this job or will he stick to this chaos. He should know taht this style of play can only be temporary. There are others who might do well, De zerbi, Naglesman etc, however, will it be a similar cycle again where season 1 they do well and then performances drop? Obviously I feel that this should be something Ineos addresses and set a style of player for the club and then recruit/ sell players who fit or don't fit that style. Keep a manager who can play in that style of play or replace him with someone who can. Good video.

Mate, are an assistant coach? this is a very good analysis, where do you learn this form, an another person wouldn't think like you do

Agreed. Reason is that he don’t have the budget to clear out everyone and rebuild so he has to see who is worthy

That said, we must keep him unless we can be sure of a better replacement. We don't want to end up with Potter.

Most of these players always fail the managers Jose, Ole etc

Almost none of the players that more or less carried us to good results last year have been available this season. Whether it's been due to injuries, lack of legs or lack of shape, loads of players have been missing.

Its difficult to change the system and the style of play which hav bn used for many years by fegi..many managers find it so difficult

If ten Haag stays we need two cb’s that are athletic ball playing cb’s, a new lb to really challenge shaw as shaw can’t be trusted to stay fit and a quality, athletic, technically sound cdm. Then you can push the back line higher up the pitch even if we have a couple of injuries in defence and play that front foot football whilst still remaining compact. If after giving ten Haag those players the team still plays like this next season and there’s no significant improvement then he needs to go. By that time The board will have had a chance to bed in and can take their time to make the right appointment as his replacement and hopefully with less competition. Too many big teams who are currently better than us looking for a new manager this summer.

The problem is that the players he's exposed include some big money signings that Ten Hag made. I think this is all why we cant have a manager in the modern game. Leave squad planning to the DOF. The coach's job will be to get the best out of these players.

Ok gd to hear diff pov but how many games do you need to figure out which players don’t cut it? the manager needs to be able to use the squad he has and if need be make changes in the summer- clearly there is a massive need for change.

I also think Bruno should get competition for his place in the starters

Pep’s team plays high and compact. His defence scrambles back to cut off the counter. He can do that with the pace of Walker and Stones. It’s risky but Pep thinks it’s worth it for possession and control in the opponents half. Ole wanted to move away from counter attacking football but didn’t have the players. No midfield and a slow back line. That’s why we saw Maguire become a laughing stock, chasing back and tripping over himself. Then he tried to stretch the field pressing high but leaving the back line low. This left huge gaps in midfield. This is what Ten Hag is now doing. I disagree that Ten Hag is testing the players for next season because at this rate he won’t get a next season. I hope he plays a low block with a flat midfield 3 vs city. Get the ball to Bruno quick for the up and over and get our forwards running behind city’s back line.

The players are the ones who have let the manager and club down and this is the case since Jose

I would like to see rashford move on because I fair that will be stuck with him after next summer and no one will want him after that especially ifs he has a next bad season.

We've changed managers and that didn't fix things.

Interesting thesis. Problem is that if by exposing the players in this way you drop off of the UCL or of Europe altogether, it then affects your ability to bring in players of the level that you want. Also, by exposing these players their performances drop, which makes it harder to find clubs interested in buying them and drops the prices they're willing to pay. A better approach would be to play to the squad's strengths to get results in the short term, but to actually recruit for what you want the team to be like in the long term. That's something I don't think United have ever done. Also surely if you see the players perform in training every day there are ways to test their technical ability, tactical awareness and athletic prowess without throwing them into the deep end. A lot of these players have been there for a long time, so why don't you know the extent of their abilities already? All in all, I understand the theory of what you are saying but if that's the reason United play this way then it's on EtH and if he was doing that at my club I would show him the door, personally.

@venuummuziq

2 ай бұрын

😂what a joke which club u support? Because if u look at manU and don’t think these players need exposing your a joke but the tactics is there the players r just too poor technically (which makes poor decisions) and tactical 🥲💀 most games we dominate for the first 25 30 minutes then fall off these players can’t do it for a whole game but he can’t do nth about it that’s y ten hag don’t want to piss them off by cussing them or go in on them he afto think about team moral so he afto play a hypocrite in the media

I completely disagree. Postecoglu has come into Spurs and totally changed the playing style while still performing better than under Conte and losing Harry Kane. It's down to the manager not the players.

How many games did we have this season where Shaw, Martinez, Casemiro, Varane, AWB play together? Oh ya, we miss Weghorst!

We should keep ETH We need more pace and power in the midfield

Agree

Problem is too many players need to be replaced and club can't do or afford it. Same brief to new managers work with existing players.

How in 2024 are people still saying "Hosay" Mourinho?!

Well Bruno also stepped up,not only Dalot

Pressing higher!! How can this be! Rashford does not press end of. This forces Bruno higher up the pitch and that then exposes the other two midfielders. I certainly don’t think this is a plan from ten Hag because I don’t think he’s capable of one. We need a fast paced defence so we can play higher up the pitch. Also midfielders with legs and a hard working front three. So Rashand Casemiro should play no part. Great analysis though again ✊🏻🚩

I'll continue the list of players who are getting exposed: Varane, Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw, AWB, Casemiro, Eriksen, McT, Bruno (?), Rashford

AJ! ETH took over manu U18 team. Changed their tactic and structure as 1st team. He allegedly even chooses players for every game. NOT A SINGLE LOSS! They just won liverpool 9-1! could it just be that our players just cannot execute hes orders?

Also it isn't the same players. Only Rashford, Martial, Lindelof and Mctominay played under Mourinho

AJ what do you mean perhaps Luke Shaw? He's been injured all season. And what do you mean perhaps Rashford? Definitely Rashford; he's a counterattacking winger. Re Casemiro, I feel he's got his ahead in Saudi already

This is the issue though. You can’t have it both ways. If he’s taken away tactical protection he can’t then blame injuries when he’s done so knowing he hasn’t got some [not all but SOME] of his better players. Whilst your analysis is good it avoids the key thing EtH is failing at. Managers have to coach the squad they have not the one they dream of having. This squad is nowhere near good enough to win the league but there’s an awful gap between 1st & where we currently lie. If he can’t influence wins from a team then he might aswell be sacked anyway. Regardless of whether he stays or not, 14 losses by Christmas again & Ineos will sack him.

Rashford really sticks out as great couner attacking player but isnt the one in a possession game. He doesnt control the ball consistently enough. Even Antony whos not as good as Rashford has a v consistent first touch. Hes great at keeping the ball under pressure he just doesn't do anything with it.

ETH has problems but we as fans don’t know if he makes the decisions regarding subs and tactics intentionally to show how bad these players are or if he just isn’t up for the Prem. I mean he clearly is a very tactically savvy manager as seen with how his Ajax team performed and nearly went to a UCL final. I believe he has too much work to do and is getting burned out by the United job. At Ajax he had excellent coaching staff, medical staff and recruitment staff, whereas at United he does not have the same robust support system. The players also have gigantic ego’s and we know they fold and start blaming the manager as soon as things don’t go their way. Hence why we had the Sancho fiasco, why Rashford has gone on numerous benders and why our younger players like Garnacho are liking tweets and post that bash ETH. There are players in the dressing room that are a sickness to Manchester United. No manager can fix them. We need to remove the likes of Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Bruno, etc. from our club. Any player that has been under 3 different managers needs to go. Because they are the problem children that infect our new stars or youth players with their toxic mentality. You are 100% correct when you say we need a complete rebuild. Hopefully we will start seeing what INEOS has cooking next season but people need to exercise patience. We can’t overspend like City has in order to become successful again. We need to back a manager and allow them to grow the team. Klopp had nearly a decade, Pep has had a lot of time to build his team and so has Arteta. Give our manager time and resources.

1 step backwards 10 steps forward

Have to disagree here. It only shows us who would and wouldn't work under ETH. A good manager would have seen early that the squad on the whole couldn't perform under his tatics, and changed tatics back then replacrf players that failed, instead he stuck to failing tatics so has yo pay the price.

I'm not sure I agree with backwards, how many academy players has Erik brought through, and all have been very good of not brilliant, is nobody seeing this

The problem is ten hang as a coach you don't need a player who can not fit in to pattern of play. Casemiro, rashford, mount And Anthony can't fit in All you need is drop them and play the gays that can deliver

He is trying to show the board were he need signings

Didn’t arsenal go backwards before going forward. They had character problems. Playing to their way and losing till after 4 years got it right. United fans like my self have to fucking wait let this man work

There’s zero team chemistry with garnacho playing selfish a lot of times. He’s great in transition but he’s too selfish for me

The players. Especially Rashford out

Honestly, if you think the manager is YET AGAIN not good enough and should be sacked...you have the football understanding of a 9 year old.

@ALEX-ut4pp

2 ай бұрын

The manager brought in enough players to play a starting 11 of his own and have a bench that he can make 5 subs for his own players. He tactic are poor for the player HE signed and he had been have high intensity training 2 days before match leading to massive injuries. He had brought in players to bench them then claimed that the player cant play the way we brought him in the club to do. He is a massive problem at this club

@FUTBOLICO_

2 ай бұрын

@@ALEX-ut4pp so who should United sign now ?

The players are not good enough on ETH system. Sell them.

Rashford should be the first drop

Whats's changed ? It's a bit obvious.. There's been too many off field issues, rumours and rusbbish. There's been 60+ injuries and he's never had his first team available since the wolves game (part of) and the players he wanted were not given to him. Loanees instead. Add to this he may have tried to progress to his way of play and players are all thick or not technical enough. So much to be said that it's really unfair question. Same for any analysis. OF course ETH is not free from errors and in game management and who knows what else going on in the background as to why he keeps playing Rashford, Bruno headless chicken mode and unable to pass 80% of the time.. Casemiro is cooked, Eriksen legs have gone, Onana nightmare start ya di ya di ya.. Lucky ETH has focussed on Youth and brought them through.

Why Ten Hag don't shift to 3-4-3 diamond as it address almost every problem that we are dealing with?

@user-ig1ps2mr2r

2 ай бұрын

We barely have 2 CBs to play so sadly, we can't even think of this. We actually shift to a 3-4-3 when Dalot inverts in possession. But I get what you are saying. Why not start a extra midfielder rather than a ST and that would make us more compact (with 2 pivots and 2 no.8s or any other combination) and also let us have control. The problem is ETH isn't obsessed by control, he is obsessed by results because u can't survive at Man Utd if u play good but don't win. I just expect us to do much better from next season with injured players back and some new exciting players.

Dnt bullshit p abt Goining backwards under ten hang cz these players dd it with baby face assesin also, he even said tht these players jst wanna have fun and not actually working hard in training

Useless free 8s system that is not working.

I disagree... Check out the difference in circumstances between the seasons..