Didn't notice much difference but liked both the old and the new one! Actually in China the coaches emphasize shoulder internal rotation in the jerk a little bit more than the peers from most western countries. The Chinese national team don't train bench press much, but they do train their upper body a lot, especially the back. Regarding pushing strength different coaches have different training philosophy. For instance coach Yu Jie's athletes Lu Xiaojun, Tian Tao, Yang Zhe do a lot of weighted dips and deficit handstand push ups with an emphasis of shoulder internal rotation at the end of the movement, and Coach Shao Guoqiang's group including Shi Zhiyong and Li Dayin do relatively little pushing exercise and limited the ranges of exercise selection to something like BTN push press to avoid significant pec delevopment, that's why Shi and Li Dayin have unimpressive pecs compared to the rest of their body parts and their teammates. With that said, when training young athletes Chinese coaches do prescribe bench presses when they think the pushing strength is seriously lacking behind. It's just not that common in the national team.

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, yeah I had to re upload my last 5 videos because I used a certain pages videos. That’s ok we are back now! Yeah different coaches will have different philosophies. It’s great to loading everything in lots of different ranges and positions. I don’t train national athletes, just everyday people so it’s great to explore our options. Gets a bit of conversation the old bench press in weightlifting!

@chrishenderson9663

2 жыл бұрын

How does Lu have such a big chest if he doesnt train it?

@tonyx8574

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrishenderson9663 Lots of weighted dips I guess. Tian or Shi once said in an interview that Lu just loves doing dips and often finishes his training with it.

@chrishenderson9663

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyx8574 thanks lad

@rodiculous9464

2 жыл бұрын

In my mind prioritizing the posterior chain makes sense from an overall health and injury reduction perspective va just building a giant chest and front delts

Great content man!

@thestoebz

2 жыл бұрын

Look who it is

Lu's squat jerk demands more shoulder mobility than klokov's split jerk. This is why he doesn't focus on building anterior upper body strength as tight pecs and anterior delts will restrict mobility even though they help in stability

@timothymanurung4835

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, and his legs is just so fucking strong, he can squat as much (or almost) as tian tao in 74 kg bodyweight

@timothymanurung4835

2 жыл бұрын

split jerk needs a strong upper body , which is not lu's strong point (or he's not training much of it)

@N0noy1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@timothymanurung4835 he's not training his upper body because he can't have a proper form for a split jerk given his body.

@BaldKiwi117

Жыл бұрын

@@timothymanurung4835 lu trains his upper body a lot with weighted dips

@timothymanurung4835

Жыл бұрын

@@BaldKiwi117 he trains it, but its not the strongest part of his body, i watched somewhere on youtube he said he only able to strict press 90 kg, dips 100 kg which few advanced gym goers are able to do that but he jerks 230 kg and squat almost 300 kg

Once i cut bench press out of my training routine my shoulders have started feeling so much better, and I'm able to over head squat properly and I don't regret cutting bench

@Lexyboogie

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. My posture got better as well.

@omergrn5985

2 жыл бұрын

What did you add on your routine instead of bench press can you tell ?

@jspaceemperor420

2 жыл бұрын

@@omergrn5985 regular push ups and weighted dips get my chest pumped just as much as bench press did

@adrienwatson2179

2 жыл бұрын

@@jspaceemperor420 Are you specifically a weight lifter? Or just an athlete in general?

@jspaceemperor420

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrienwatson2179 weightlifter but mainly olympic lifts and accessories I'll do some machine work from time to time, would eventually like to become a athlete but it'll take awhile

Don't need flat bench unless you're a powerlifter competing at it. Even for aethetics incline/low incline are better imo. You can build a pretty good chest without heavy flat benching

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! Lots of movements can be used to achieve the same goal!

@XXLRebel

2 жыл бұрын

For aesthetic you're better off isolating the ton of that particular muscle. Pretty bland statement that you don't need it unless you're a powerlifter. How about horizontal pushing strength? That's a pretty big reason to be incorporating the flat bench press. Saying you only need to bench if you're a powerlifter is just trying to sound smart and experienced.

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

@@XXLRebel exactly. Unfortunately people have attachments to exercises rather than seeing them as tools.

@noahgodlike7236

2 жыл бұрын

@@XXLRebel actually the bench press is such an isolated movement, If you want to move a lot of weight you have to archer back use your legs too and that defeats the purpose of the exercises self. You’ll be much better off if you did regular calisthenics push-ups with weight plates on your back same thing but it’s a compound movement, Which will train the athletes functional strength.

@XXLRebel

2 жыл бұрын

@@noahgodlike7236 You saying the bench press is an isolated movement made not even wanna read the rest of your comment. Nice try though!

Fantastic analysis! Subbed!💪

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

I quitted dips and bench press because it always hurts my shoulder. I replaced them with dumbbell presses mainly incline and flat. Works fine no shoulder pain anymore

@zephyrr108

9 ай бұрын

Same

Great video!

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

well made video thanks!

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

Of course there is a correlation between pressing overhead and jerk . If you can lift more over your head you can lift more over your head, it is a truism. The point this misses though is that there are multiple ways to get the weight overhead. We know for a fact that one (the highly technical jerk used by lifters like lu and lasha) which focuses on driving from the legs, throwing the bar up, and catching at the the right spot), is superior to the more brute force jerk (dimitry’s) which over emphasizes pushing the bar with the shoulders and triceps. That is the point of what lu says, jerks with an emphasis on driving, throwing, and catching are better than driving, pushing, and dipping.

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting mate!

@javiersanz29

2 жыл бұрын

I almost 100% agree. Klokov is one of those lifters that throw the bar very high. He is extremely strong overhead. For Lu makes sense, for Klokov, it doesn't. And because he needs a ton of shoulder mobility, any decrease in that are is fatal.

Very good 🔥👏🏻

Thanks for the video Brandon! Question for you - is there a reason you perform the press with your wrists facing inwards and your shoulder not fully abducted horizontally? (like in the standard military press?) thanks again!

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Not a problem! Which press are you referring to? The seated DB press in the video? If you have your elbows to the side as most people coach the db press, I find you definitely limit the scapula movement possible and cause those muscles to be compressed. The scapula can move a lot better with the elbows in front of the body or even using an arnold press. This is the main progression I use in my training.

When I was a teen barely getting into fitness, & just exercising period to get stronger -- not really for vanity or competitive bodybuilding reasons -- I didn't have no bench. All I did were pushups, & it wasn't until 2 years later my Dad gave me his old standard bench. Was using it for awhile, but always preferred getting an Olympic weight set bench to really start going up. Then I came up with an idea of doing dumbbell floor presses one summer (since I didn't have a bench to lay on), & it really helped put mass in my chest quicker. So I just abandoned the whole idea of saving money for an Olympic bench set. Even got compliments, & questions back then from people in school on how I got so massive. Some HS football players back then too always wondered how much I benched, funny enough, I would just tell them I don't bench but do other variations of chest. Now I got myself a flat bench to lay on, & doing 100s when I was only doing 35s-50s the first time I started. I don't plan on going any higher to be honest.

@timothymanurung4835

2 жыл бұрын

all you need to build big pecs is be strong in horizontal presses, not bench

@boliusabol822

8 күн бұрын

you were benchpressing really a floor press is a benchpress.. you were basically fibbing saying you didn''t benchpress!

@thetexan2127

8 күн бұрын

@@boliusabol822 Big difference, especially with the body mechanics. There's a whole bunch of people that bench differently than they can do a dumbbell press. Where is the lie?

Yeah I noticed that. Ive always done classic weights.... And while I tryed crossfit.... I could perform O. H. Squats at all....

It seems to me that weighted dips and those plate flies provide more specific stimulus to squat jerks. With Klokov’s split jerk, it’s much more the case that the bar moves up, so perhaps the horizontal pressing stimulus would result in better carry over. Just a guess as a novice at weightlifting (but not in general).

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

Training generally is what you need to improve the capacity for specific outputs

Well Lu Xiaojun is a double Olympic gold medalist and 5 times Weightlifting world champion so I'd take his advice seriously Edit: Triple Olympic Gold medalist now

@theaccordian9377

Жыл бұрын

Ignorant mentality. Just because someone more successful than you trains some way, doesn't mean that it's appropriate for you.

@idkbro9703

Жыл бұрын

It is really a matter of training philosophy, cuz while most of the Chinese weightlifters rarely press, Lots of the Russians like klokov love their presses

@vadimlychak1110

Жыл бұрын

@@idkbro9703 Клоков скорее является исключением. Большое количество жимов в его тренировках вероятно связано с травмой плеча, посмотрите на его Подъёмы в конце карьеры. Его разворачивает со штангой над головой. В момент фиксации после выталкивания. Он сам неоднократно говорил в своих видео что много делает жимов чтобы укрепить плечевой пояс после травмы.

@aduantas

Жыл бұрын

just because someone is really good at something with their particular body doesn't mean they know absolutely everything about what is best for everyone else, and there is often considerable disagreement between experts in any field

In fact in that video Klokov does not recommend bench as well. Old school weight lifters were doing 45 inclined bench, which is different thing, or shoulder width grip normal bench.

Bench press breaks the scapuloheumeral rhythm as part of its technique and scapulae can't move in intended natural way. it is the root cause of all the evils resulting from benching. Even the elite powerlifters (not all but many) have issues relating to shoulders and rotator cuff due to this. Standing pressing and dips are way superior to bench as the scapulae can move in unrestricted and natural way.

Best physiques ever where built before benches were invented, way before man boobs were a thing to achieve.

Thank you

Don't bench if you want to compete in these types lifts. Do bench if you want to loo aesthetic. Just stretch daily, pre and post work out to keep your mobility.

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

@AR-ey1ur

2 жыл бұрын

Actually... I heard (probably from athleanx) that stretching before lifting is bad. My personal experience also confirms this. Muscles lose some of their elasticity during stretching. Better warm up before lifting and stretch some other time.

@jon8696

2 жыл бұрын

@@AR-ey1ur You can do dynamic stretching pre workout and static stretching post workout

@adrienwatson2179

2 жыл бұрын

@@jon8696 This

@azerty1933

2 жыл бұрын

@@jon8696 another way of doing it is stretching muscle you're not training on this day. For exemple if you're doing a chest day you can stretch your quads and biceps

I’ve been experiencing pain while throwing (an American football). I’m going to try the waiters carry to help that out

For olympic weight lifters is a waste of time and energy, for the rest of mortals works because you just need to build strength and muscles in the chest

Bp makes it so I automatically don't lock out elbows in the jerk. My joints are more than flexible enough. But there's a habit in my mind not to hyper lock the elbows. It's hindering my oly progress...

@sillymesilly

2 жыл бұрын

Then slow down on BP and lockout

I must listen to him

Great content! More of analysing elite athlelts pls

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Just a “hobby” lifter, I lift in my garage, I’d appreciate suggestions on an ohp specific pressing routine.

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate I'll see what I can do!

@perfectshedinja

2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see this as well

@riv6580

2 жыл бұрын

Look it up. 3-4 sets of 8-12. When they working weight gets light in some weeks, go up.

I mean, training rear delts could also even out posture and flexibility decreased by overdeveloped front delts

What about dumbel chest press

He is right!!!!

nice video

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

Best training for upper body is L-sit to Handstand for the push, and Front Lever/skin the cat for the pull

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

amazing drills

@mickey5764

Жыл бұрын

Yes if you're an idiot and don't want to build maximum muscle

Heavy flat benching destroyed my shoulders I can never train normally again due to tearing my rotator cuff twice and injuring my ac joint ..I wish I took mobility work more serious when I started

@holetohell4140

2 жыл бұрын

Your form was probably bad

@nicefly1556

2 жыл бұрын

@@holetohell4140 bench is just ass

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Olympic lifting can help bench not vice versa I'd say aside from close grip

100% true

I'm personally gonna stop bench press because I don't have enough mobility for the bar to reach my chest, it's not even a mobility thing but the way my skeleton is, I am Chinese and got the weightlifter body type so my arms are shorter than average, I noticed shoulder pain every time I bench and even had to stop lifting for a month before because of that, i found the reason it's because of bench press, I can technically let the bar touch my chest if I just let it but that puts stress on my shoulders. I am just going to do dumbbell bench press from now on

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

that is good

0:39 subtitle is not what he said, He doesn't mean NOT to do, just do it less.

Ehen you do these, your head goes forward. Is it ok?

I just stopped doing bench and started doing dumbbell press….much better on my joints

okk, so we have medium not little guys right now just outlifting bigger guys'. ok so the standard vector moment arm linear -ism Model was wrong. Who's responsible for lazy sheet like that. Tell us...

Klokov has shoulders issue. In interviews he say - "i train bench press for support my shoulder by strong muscles"

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

lol

How does Klokov press so much more despite being heavier by only about 20 kg? Does Lu just not train that movement much (not sure if he was only referring to bench pressing)?

I just want to squat jerk 1 plate but my ankle and shoulder mobility isn’t there

@thechosenone93

6 ай бұрын

Use a wider stance,turn your feet outwards

Good things come to those who sweat.

Why comparison Lu with Klokov in the thumbnail? Klokov dream is to be equal to Lu when he grows up.

15kg Lu raises! I do 25 x 5kg for 4 sets as a shoulder finisher but my grip struggles to hold 10kg plates, he makes 15kg raises and grip look so easy!

@michael-qt3er

Жыл бұрын

isn't lu just using 10lbs plate for lu raises? that's less than 5kg, it's to train your stability muscle don't over do it. it's not meant to build bigger delt.

4:09 the way he is holding it scares me

I want to do dips. But I can't. Even home dips aren't working because my chairs aren't strong and sturdy enough. I need to start investing on one.

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

A set of rings can be used for push ups and rows, same goes for a good set of parallette bars

@ichiroutakashima4503

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrandonAccardi I've only been compensating dips via close grip bench press. I actually have a pull up bar and TRX and rings but eh, my core isn't strong enough to make myself stable if I wanted to do dips on such equipment. Seems like I need to invest on a good and affordable pair of paralette bars. Thanks for the advice!

@rampagesmackssons508

2 жыл бұрын

@@ichiroutakashima4503 practice holding yourself on the rings and it'll increase your core strength to the the point you can start doing dips

he said professionals... how many people from the local gym are "professionals" there???

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Not a lot

@alessandrocostacoutinho7745

2 жыл бұрын

he SPECIALLY the professionals, so he wasnt talking ONLY about professionals.

He looks like a Monster from Wind Breaker

I’m bout a stop doing bench. My shoulder mobility is so bad

@tanhuulusoy

2 жыл бұрын

Just do some shoulder mobility work along with rear delt work, you'll be fine, no need to eliminate the bench (unless you're a weightlifter obviously)

@holetohell4140

2 жыл бұрын

Why don’t you work on your shoulder mobility?

Is a power cage better than a squat rack?

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

power cage for pull ups and pins

Man but I love benching :(

So...what should women do to increase upper body strength?

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

I look at people on a case by case basis, male or female. Depending on mobility, and what exercises people enjoy will determine my programming. If you’re wanting to improve your pressing strength as in the context of this video, dumbbell bench press, seated dumbbell press are going to be a great way to do this. For weightlifters specifically (all genders) there is definitely a lack of hypertrophy/upper body training in their programs, at least what I see! I am also a big fan of training arms for shoulder health, Curls and tricep extensions are great movements that you can add into your training. How does that help?

@noname-bt9ky

2 жыл бұрын

Steroids

@berserk3380

2 жыл бұрын

@@noname-bt9ky Good point.

But mark rippetoe knows absolutely everything and would disagree

@BaldKiwi117

Жыл бұрын

Lol

Are high-rep bodyweight pushups OK?

@BrandonAccardi

11 ай бұрын

Yes

Once he saved it restricts movement I knew he knows what he be saying, cause who want a permanent 45 angle stance on your arms just to lose all the muscles and still have the same problems are you did with those “cobras”

What about dumbell flat press?

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Dumbbells are more applicable for the people I work with

@chrishaz1122

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrandonAccardi thank you my friend

This reinforces what J. Cavaliere said once. The most Athletic exercises are the one when you feet touch the ground. Even better, when you're standing

@atlasbailly5439

2 жыл бұрын

Yes of course, jeff cavaliere. a relevant opinion in the discussion of olympic team preferences.

@sillymesilly

2 жыл бұрын

Then military press is king

@rampagesmackssons508

2 жыл бұрын

There was me thinking the levitating bench press was the most athletic exercise 🤦🏾‍♂️

@bushidofreakz

2 жыл бұрын

@@atlasbailly5439 he's not wrong on this one though

@cesartomas7639

Жыл бұрын

​@@atlasbailly5439Weightlifiting is more than just a sport is part of life, people carry stuff right? its natural and also unnatural to move a certain way, thats what physiotheraphy is about. Caring for your posture and doing right exercises to have longevity. It not only about fancy muscles. To be honest bodybuilding with all these machines and substances is greatly unnatural.

That dude has the squarist jaw

As an orthopod, I see no reason why bench pressing should affect shoulder "mobility" one way or another.

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

Yes

2:50

Dear Lu! I'm just indicating...the primarily responsible for shoulder immobility is the Latissimus Dorsi...

Yea, but we don't know how much Lu can bench press. Going past 2 plates is stupid if you're not competing.

Klokov did it purely for aesthetic. Weightlifters do not bench in Russia. At least the most of them.

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

You do not understand how to train an athlete - it's ok if you do not get it. Many don't.

@nikolaisalikov1257

Жыл бұрын

@@BrandonAccardi son, it looks you do not know any weightlifter or weightlifting coach from Russia, but that's okay, many don't. Just accept the facts that weightlifters do not bench and Klokov was benching and curling purely for aesthetic after he finished his sport career.

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

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@nikolaisalikov1257

Жыл бұрын

@@BrandonAccardi Here is one of the many Klokov's interview (watch?v=JZQyWgDfxd0): 27:05 "Я пришёл к тому, что жим лёжа штангисту не нужен" / "I came to conclusion that weightlifter should not bench". 27:13 "Он забивает грудную, делает её короче" / "Your chest became more stiff and short" 27:25 "Если для себя, для внешнего вида я делаю один подход 70 кг каждую тренировку" / "For myself, for my look I do one set of bench press 70 kg after each training session"

@nikolaisalikov1257

Жыл бұрын

@@BrandonAccardi "Почему штангисты не качают грудь и бицепс. Дмитрий Берестов" / "Why weightlifters do not train chest and biceps. Dmitry Berestov" (watch?v=IKrSr1i9rZg) 1:18 "Если спросить любого тяжёлоатлета, все абсолютно скажут (и я этого же мнения), что жим лёжа лучше не делать" / "If you ask any weightlifter, everyone will tell you (myself included) that it's better not to bench"

Champ

He would also tell you that drinking ice-cold water in the morning is bad and that eating watermelon during the winter would make you unwell. Also, I don’t think they diet at all because their cooks don’t understand how macronutrients work. Do whatever that floats your boat. 😂😂😂

@aristolochene

Жыл бұрын

Who are you?

What an odd name Have never heard a waiter serve my food from one arm overhead before, but maybe that's just me

Benching will improve overall testosterone which improves both health & strength overall.

Bench press is the least practical lift in regards to functionality. Squating, deadlifting, and push pressing is much more effective for practical use in daily life. So unless your a sumo wrestler, or an nfl offensive lineman, or a competive power lifter, your not going to need it in your life. It's almost a useless lift with a high risk of injury. Dumbell bench presses are better than barbell, but still not as effective in actual practical functional lifts. A person who never bench presses and does all the other lifts at high weights is going to be stronger than someone who benches only. Regardless of how high your 1rm is.

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

1. If function = transfer to daily life, can that not be expressed in all movements? What is it exactly that makes b.b bench less functional? The fact that you use a barbell? Or the fact that you press in a horizontal plane? All movement is rotational anyway, you're just biasing different tissues and joint angles lol. 2. Someone who benches only vs someone who trains multiple contexts will be far more well rounded - water is wet - that's like saying "someone who doesn't exercise wont be as strong as someone who does". Bench press is not bad for your shoulder mobility, not training in other positions is bad for your shoulder health lol.

Someone needs to post the how to pronounce his name video. It's Loo Shyow ( like "ow" not "show") Jwing ( Like swing but with a j at the front).

@thechosenone93

2 жыл бұрын

That was an highly incorrect statement you made. It's Lu = loo Xiao = She - ow Jun = Joon

One is a double Olympic champion.

@leaverus

2 жыл бұрын

AND one Olympic silver AND 5 World Championship gold. No comparison; not even close.

@Aakash.Singh1

2 жыл бұрын

Now he's a three time Olympic Gold medalist

Restricts the shoulders, stick to pushups

If you’re an athlete that throws or does something similar to OH movements, avoid bench. It’s really that simple.

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

Throwers don't bench? lol

It should be, don't bench press if you're strong enough to be a top 20 oly lifter in your class nation wise. That is where it makes sense, if you are not at least that level you should definitely do bench press.

is that steriod in his glass?

he light 😂

Omg that waiters lift ot whatever really loosens up my right shoulder!

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Feels great!

The Chinese seem to be doing alright ...................................................

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Haha best of the best

Yea lets stop benching. Great idea.

I never liked bench press it limits ROM too much and it's easy to mess up and cause tightness/imbalances, chest dips or dumbbell bench press is superior and I feel similar about barbell squats; I think Bulgarian split squats are better as well as trap bar deadlifts/ sumo deadlifts being better than conventional deadlifts

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

Arbitrary comment. No context - lol cringe

People like Lu, very good at lifts where they can use a lot of momentum and body English. Makes sense, that’s why they’re in weightlifting. To bench with a relatively flat back, three points of contact and a pause on the chest with any type of appreciable weight, is something he probably just can’t do. Many impressive weightlifters have weak weak benches. Big reason is because when it comes to training the bench press it doesn’t always come easy. So they latch onto the idea that the bench press isn’t necessary, and they start doing overhead presses, where there’s a smaller talent pool, and less opportunity to embarrass yourself by looking weak in front of others. But weak benches don’t even like to bench in front of strong lifters. The bench press is highly nuanced and technical, and that will come as a surprise to some people. It takes work, but it certainly does not in anyway make you a worse weightlifter. Weightlifting cannot make you a better bench presser. , but bench Pressin can make you a better weightlifter. How many guys do you see with impressive lower body lifts, but can’t bench at all.? Lu He’s good at what he does, apparently even his supplement game, but he’s not a good Poweer Lifter. It’s whatever you like. But very few people are good at both

@imlikethat0074

5 ай бұрын

Delusional. Lu is literally built to become a 405 bench press sub 190 pounds. Short arms and fast twitch dominant would have him breaking records. The post reads like you are projecting

@solutionsatob8092

5 ай бұрын

ok. @@imlikethat0074

Max was here

Bench press is overrated. If you think you really need it then dumbell press is better.

@BrandonAccardi

2 жыл бұрын

Dumbbell bench press is more applicable for most people I train

@berserkemblem2091

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say overrated it’s pretty fairly rated

@BaldKiwi117

Жыл бұрын

I agree, although I still find bench press is a fun exercise. I feel that too many people believe bench press is the best exercise for pec development when you can grow them just fine without it.

Worst 1 arm rows ever

@tjcogger1974

2 жыл бұрын

It's so funny when a DYEL tries to criticize the form of literally the greatest weightlifter of all time😂. Gotta love the internet.

@BaldKiwi117

Жыл бұрын

Helped him win just a couple gold medals but go on

The difference is Lu isn’t Klokov and he rules don’t apply to Klokov that man is quite literally a robot pretending to be a human

@casadogaspar

2 жыл бұрын

Between the two, who have more titles?

@Aakash.Singh1

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you're right. Lu isn't klokov. Lu isn't a silver medalist in the olympics but a THREE TIME GOLD MEDALIST. Lu isn't a 1 time world champion like Klokov but a 5 TIME WORLD CHAMPION Lu isn't klokov because Klokov is retired and Lu is still winning gold at the olympics So you're correct. Lu Xiaojun isn't Klokov He's magnitude of orders above him

@10oz10

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aakash.Singh1 damn dog get off his meat, i meant in physicality regardless of weight and height. Klokov is just a bear, he's mad strong and would succeed at any strength focused sport he attempted whereas Lu is a weightlifter.

I don't do Olympic Weightlifting, why would I care?. It's about as relevant as someone saying "Don't play golf if you want to get better at tennis".

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

you're on the wrong channel

@RelentlesslyMyself

Жыл бұрын

Horrible analogy lol. It’s not just about Olympic weightlifting. He’s talking about in general keep doing your bench press consistently and see your shoulder mobility become trash.

Lu competes professionally in split jerks, so for him that advice probably makes sense. Personally, I never do that exercise, because to me "jerking" heavy weights like that doesn't make sense (it's not a motion that you'd normally use irl) and can cause serious injury easily. On top of that, it's bad for floors and training equipment. IMHO, deadlift + overhead press train similar muscles to split jerks, but are much safer and better controlled exercises.

@G3Number

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to planet fitness hope you enjoy your stay

@hiimronstuart1

2 жыл бұрын

None of the exercises done in the gym are used in real life. I'm sure doing split jerks builds as much "functional strength" and serves any "in real life" purpose just as well.

@a-a-rondavis9438

2 жыл бұрын

@@hiimronstuart1 In terms of real world practicality, Strongman says otherwise.

@hiimronstuart1

2 жыл бұрын

@@a-a-rondavis9438 Anyone that has been lifting for a decent amount of time, as long as they have been doing a variety of compound exercises and haven't been neglecting body parts have enough "functional" strength anyone would ever really need.

@thechosenone93

2 жыл бұрын

@@hiimronstuart1 This is true.

and i'm still nonthewiser.. if you honestly wanted to explain what he meant then you should've demonstrated it instead of all the pointless editing and blabbering

Hes an athlete he hasn't studied anything he just practiced what his coach said

@jamesfeng7355

2 жыл бұрын

Even top level athletes all have their own different programs to reach the same goals, take Lu as a pinch of salt

@berserkemblem2091

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesfeng7355 facts

Yet everyone who has ever lifted weights for any goal has used the bench press and no problems have ever come up from it so I'm gonna have to disagree. Lol

@ericliu8434

2 жыл бұрын

Most Olympic weightlifting don't bench yet it seems they're pretty good at what they do huh?

@nicefly1556

2 жыл бұрын

An Olympic lifter can bench and a powerlifter can't clean and jerk

@Aakash.Singh1

2 жыл бұрын

Have you asked every single person who has lifted weights whether they have problems with their shoulders ? If not, how could you generalize ?

@charlesstidham2788

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aakash.Singh1 have family members who live in the gym and they have zero problems. Lol

@BaldKiwi117

Жыл бұрын

Bench if you want but you're not an Olympic gold medalist in weightlifting so you don't need to worry about it affecting your lifts. Lol

I tend to agree with Lu, but I just him do 1 arm dumbbell rows with the most incorrect form possible

@urdadshusband781

2 жыл бұрын

What ? Are you saying he does db rows with worst form possible ?

@socaljusticewarrior558

2 жыл бұрын

@@urdadshusband781 Let me start by saying that he's the olympic athlete. He obviously does things that others cannot. His judgement is the best when it comes to his own body. However, I would not copy his form for the one arm dumbbell row. First of all, he has his knee on a bench, which is pretty controversial in itself. Secondly, he's jerking the weight up. Again, he's the superhero so he can probably get away with it. I wouldn't advise average people to do the same though.

@socaljusticewarrior558

2 жыл бұрын

@Nehra You've got a good point. He would need an explosive latissimus, wouldn't he? The snatch is a complex movement, and part of it is controlled by the lat.

@ettcnt3822

Жыл бұрын

It's an explosive style not bodybuilding

@socaljusticewarrior558

Жыл бұрын

@@ettcnt3822 I was thinking about getting a hernia from that.

Bench press is useless

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

lol cringe

@danielrosa7122

Жыл бұрын

@@BrandonAccardi got you

A 1/1000000 genetic specimen telling you how to train. YOU ARE NOT LU lol

When the majority of pro bodybuilders don't bench....You should get the hint...unless you are a complete dummy... Which many are unfortunately.

@jamesfeng7355

2 жыл бұрын

It's like bodybuilders don't do cleans for legs lol it's all about hypertrophy

@berserkemblem2091

2 жыл бұрын

There bodybuilders majority of power lifters bench majority of ppl bench ur gonna build muscle regardless and if u actually stretch and work on ur shoulders ur not gonna have complete utter garbage mobility

Even for people Who train martial arts it’s very bad for your shoulder flexibility

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

Pressing is bad for shoulder flexibility?

the last exercises are not hypertrophy exercises 🤣

@BrandonAccardi

Жыл бұрын

Hypertrophy occurs from mechanical tension - it's not exclusive to exercises lol.