Why Lex Fridman doesn't play chess

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  • @WhalesWilly
    @WhalesWilly Жыл бұрын

    It's simple. He hasn't been programmed to play chess yet.

  • @jimd3500
    @jimd35008 ай бұрын

    "The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life." ~Paul Morphy

  • @ivoryas1696

    @ivoryas1696

    4 ай бұрын

    @jimd3500 _There_ it is! _I _*_knew_* it'd be somewhere here...

  • @nO_d3N1AL
    @nO_d3N1AL Жыл бұрын

    "Be happy but never satisfied. You can be positive but still want to improve yourself" - wow, so beautifully put!

  • @bensk8in467
    @bensk8in467 Жыл бұрын

    My grandfather was champion of his local division for five years straight and was nationally ranked in the upper 3k national well into his elder years. He had a few boards throughout the house and office and had up to 50 games going at once he would play by mail. You could tell in conversation with him, there is something different about this guy 😂. It’s a psychological game of foresight and has a great impact on a person’s demeanor I’m sure. My Grandpa was a mellow cool guy.

  • @TheTruth__7

    @TheTruth__7

    Жыл бұрын

    Almost like a warlord controlling many battlefields

  • @heroblok6

    @heroblok6

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow very Cool story. 50 games at once is epic

  • @santoss.8150
    @santoss.8150 Жыл бұрын

    I stop playing chess because it IS addictive and it was taking up way too much time and energy for a hobby

  • @exelmans8855

    @exelmans8855

    Жыл бұрын

    To be good you have to play a lot. If not you lose, and no one want to lose at chess.

  • @bennydaz1214

    @bennydaz1214

    11 күн бұрын

    Just play for fun. It is fun.

  • @invictuz4803
    @invictuz4803 Жыл бұрын

    This was like a reverse interview with Lex answering the questions lol. Was trippy. Amazing quote at the end - be happy but never satisfied. I feel like the moment I'm satisfied, I fail. But at the same time I'm never happy because I feel like it's never productive.

  • @jb-zn7ke

    @jb-zn7ke

    Жыл бұрын

    Because he’s a beta wanting to bed the two hotties. He forgot what was his job

  • @move_i_got_this5659

    @move_i_got_this5659

    Жыл бұрын

    He's not doing a very good job with this interview. Maybe it's because of the sexual tension. Alex and Lex are doing the mating ritual, while Andrea is a third wheel.

  • @northlord8938

    @northlord8938

    Жыл бұрын

    @@move_i_got_this5659 wtf man. stop watching too much animal planet.

  • @curtis6618

    @curtis6618

    Жыл бұрын

    Why is it bad to be satisfied do you think?

  • @invictuz4803

    @invictuz4803

    Жыл бұрын

    @@move_i_got_this5659 I think Lex is just adjusting to the fact that the interviewees aren't really giving in-depth answers and end up asking questions back to him instead. Usually Lex just asks one question and the interviewee will go off for minutes, but that's clearly not what's happening here so Lex has to fill in the content. The last question he asked, he didn't even give them a chance to answer, but I think the interview style has already been decided by that point.

  • @bertiemunn129
    @bertiemunn129 Жыл бұрын

    I played competitive chess as a child to a reasonably high level but I stopped because I didn't like the fact that you had to study various openings and endgames. I feel like it should be more about your creativity and thinking on the spot

  • @edmondilji339

    @edmondilji339

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely this opinion was fischers too

  • @Sam-bn7jk

    @Sam-bn7jk

    Жыл бұрын

    Same reason Fischer quitted and created Fischer Random

  • @noahschuler6388

    @noahschuler6388

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s why you just play unique openings and play bullet or blitz

  • @Sam-bn7jk

    @Sam-bn7jk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@noahschuler6388 playing "unique" openings is impossible when you start playing a bit more seriously, aka slightly above the average club player, and bullet/blitz are pure dopamine nonsense garbage

  • @Sam-bn7jk

    @Sam-bn7jk

    Жыл бұрын

    @Mike Byrne dopamine, and not getting your chess thinking right, and thats it basically.

  • @aresmars2003
    @aresmars2003 Жыл бұрын

    I didn't play chess after elementary school, but did play (and lost) championship (5th) game in my school district in 6th grade. I think chess or games in general help develop feelings of agency, that you're in charge and you can try things without fully being able to predict outcomes, and finding out. But over time I needed more productive activities for my dopamine, and things that were not zero sum. Beating someone else doesn't feel that good, and losing can feel worse. Some games can have more cooperative efforts, like I ran a half marathon race yesterday, had no chance to win, but in the top 20% for my age group. You use anyone around you, direct rival or not, to try to keep going at the end where the clock is the real rival, Kipling's unforgiving minute at the end of the race. And in season long competitions, like the Tortoise and the Hare, I like the phrase "Keeping your rivals honest" so you may not win, but you want to force your rivals to show up! Some best runners focus entirely on the marathon, which requires a certain training strategy of building up, and tapering the weeks before the big race. But long distance running has distances 5k and longer, so to be a true champion you have to show you can win at all distances, which can require sacrificing some of your marathon training optimizations.

  • @agu6053
    @agu6053 Жыл бұрын

    I hope that Lex will get a chance to read the great novella "A chess story" by Stefan Zweig, it really catches the sentiment that Lex was expressing

  • @TheChessNeck
    @TheChessNeck Жыл бұрын

    The depth of chess is basically infinite. You could easily dedicate your whole life to the game we all love so much.

  • @jjjyli686

    @jjjyli686

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a crazy mans hobby. U can’t never be good enough in it while it can drive u to the verge of insanity in a way. Hard to live a normal life being that into it. Then theres these super gms that have some 3D memory ability that is greater than regular people. Most of it is studying lines and engine patterns but these people have the creativity ability in the midgame that can’t really be taught

  • @daeuri

    @daeuri

    Жыл бұрын

    For many people, myself included, chess blurs the line between hobby and obsession. I find myself frequently revisiting the Paul Morphy quote: "To play chess is the sign of a gentleman. To play chess well is the sign of a wasted life."

  • @ghosthunter0950

    @ghosthunter0950

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@jjjyli686 They don't inherently have it, they develop it. There has been research on high level chess player's memory compared to an average person's and it was pretty much the same on average. super GM's may be special cases but you can develop that ability with a lot of time and effort. We also know that they are a lot worse at remembering chess960 positions. so that initial position being consistent really helps.

  • @josephinetracy1485

    @josephinetracy1485

    Жыл бұрын

    I should just quit playing. The knights ruin the game for me. It's just as simple as that. It's not the losing.

  • @astrogaymerxd7290

    @astrogaymerxd7290

    Жыл бұрын

    The depth of chess is finite by definition lmao

  • @baronbayne9899
    @baronbayne9899 Жыл бұрын

    I love chess. I'm not very good at it, but I respect it and deeply admire anyone who has comitted themselves to mastering it.

  • @MagicFromThe0161

    @MagicFromThe0161

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @tammy1001
    @tammy1001 Жыл бұрын

    I joined the chess club at school and played the best player there. He was so cocky he made a stupid mistake and I beat him. He was furious and demanded a rematch but I refused and quit the club. You could say I knew the best time in my life to retire for good.

  • @hayhorca915

    @hayhorca915

    27 күн бұрын

    Was my first otb experience as well. The guy I was going against was not very good, only about 600 or so, but was very confident he would beat me, and would say stuff like "that's a good move, you don't know why that's a good move, but that's a good move" when I played, he also would say stuff like I "missed mate in 4" in random positions were it made no sense. Anyways I beat him 2-0 and he was kinda quiet after that

  • @The_Void_Staring_Back
    @The_Void_Staring_Back Жыл бұрын

    The true depths of chess computations will always run so much deeper than what a human brain will ever be able to fully conceive of. However, it is certainly quite interesting to see which human minds can reach the farthest...

  • @processrauwill7922
    @processrauwill7922 Жыл бұрын

    Man haven’t watched much Lex, but really liked that last part. I feel like a lot of advice nowadays is really tailored towards people who have a proclivity for depression, so it was refreshing hearing a perspective similar to mine

  • @mehdimehdikhani5899
    @mehdimehdikhani5899 Жыл бұрын

    There are GMs who have PhD in other fields. Just enjoy the process of learning without setting a goal.

  • @astrid.00.7

    @astrid.00.7

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that was the point of his comment-he just isn’t able to do that. Chess is like a puzzle you cannot completely solve, and for some people, it becomes an addiction-because there is always more to learn. From a strictly financial point of view, it’s better to pick an addiction that furthers your career, rather than get stuck in one that derails it.

  • @aaabatteries9948

    @aaabatteries9948

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah Just enjoy it lmao

  • @patrickl5290

    @patrickl5290

    Жыл бұрын

    Came to write this. Some people don’t derive the same level of enjoyment from a superficial engagement in chess as they would becoming immersed in it

  • @nGUNNARp

    @nGUNNARp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@astrid.00.7 pick poker, it's a game you can make money from while being probably like the chess equivalent of like 1100 rating lol

  • @chrisiver8506

    @chrisiver8506

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@nGUNNARp lol really that low? why the hell am i playing chess then

  • @TheArtofGuitar
    @TheArtofGuitar Жыл бұрын

    I'm afraid if we get Lex and Rogan addicted to chess we'd end up losing two of the best podcast because that's all they'd do from now on. haha.

  • @andrewgross1835

    @andrewgross1835

    Жыл бұрын

    yoo the art of guitar on a lex vid nice

  • @Ace-dv5ce

    @Ace-dv5ce

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel like Joe Rogan kinda wants to pursue chess, just a feeling

  • @allanshpeley4284

    @allanshpeley4284

    29 күн бұрын

    @@Ace-dv5ce I love Rogan but I can't see him breaking 1k elo. Maybe 1200 tops.

  • @tenningale
    @tenningale9 ай бұрын

    5:54 This is why chess is like learning a language. You can start late and become good, but to have native fluency and command, starting younger is much better.

  • @bobomber
    @bobomber Жыл бұрын

    when do we get a Lex Fridman tennis video?

  • @Red_AIert
    @Red_AIert Жыл бұрын

    That answer was shockingly brilliant. 💯

  • @rumckinley
    @rumckinley Жыл бұрын

    Lex has reached that level in interviewing. You are the grandmaster of loving, curious conversation.

  • @stefanocioni2587

    @stefanocioni2587

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! So true; lex is amazing

  • @johngrey1074

    @johngrey1074

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you kidding? He is a very mediocre interview. He asks shallow questions and says stupid things. And he has an annoying monotone voice.

  • @h0tar

    @h0tar

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johngrey1074 Can you please put a video on your channel where you give a proper interview ? Would love to see it, you seem to have mastered the craft!

  • @johngrey1074

    @johngrey1074

    Жыл бұрын

    @@h0tar Sure. Can I interview you? I'll title the video "Interview with Idiotic Lex Friedman Fan."

  • @h0tar

    @h0tar

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johngrey1074 Fine with me, plan a meeting and a time and I'll be there. Should be fun!

  • @moonposture5542
    @moonposture5542 Жыл бұрын

    normal ppl: i won’t do meth because i don’t want to get addicted and ruin my life Lex: i won’t play chess because i don’t want to get addicted and ruin my life

  • @macstuntsable
    @macstuntsable Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the lessons

  • @brandondetroitfanmichaels4325
    @brandondetroitfanmichaels4325 Жыл бұрын

    My personality and my chess game are polar opposites! I can be brash, impulsive and arrogant but when I play chess... I am mellowed, patient and humbled. I'm a good person lol I just know my faults and weaknesses and just want to learn

  • @ork0_095

    @ork0_095

    Жыл бұрын

    trust me my guy, chess is not like that, a part of it yes but the most fun I had playing chess was online, shitting on the toilet, beating the guy on the other side of the screen and feeling his frustration through the screen when he challenges you for the 4th time or the time when you find a beautiful move that makes you think about it for the rest of the day...... that's the other side of the coin

  • @brandondetroitfanmichaels4325

    @brandondetroitfanmichaels4325

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ork0_095 That's your narrative.

  • @ork0_095

    @ork0_095

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325 true, but i was you to know that there is a another side of the coin that you might find if you give if enough time

  • @thomasgraham5842
    @thomasgraham5842 Жыл бұрын

    That quote be happy but never satisfied , that reminds me of eating pringles , they give you enough flavor to keep you interested but never enough flavor to make you satisfied ..

  • @Sam-dc9bg
    @Sam-dc9bg Жыл бұрын

    It is a fair response. We only have one life and and finite amount of energy and at the end of the day we choose how that energy is spent. To spend time doing anything is to spend time not doing something else.

  • @TessaTickle
    @TessaTickle Жыл бұрын

    Lex doesn't do Tinder, he invites ladies in pairs to a date/interview. It's lovely, he's so animated in this one. I just want to know which of the two ladies he fancies and is going to marry and have 6 kids with.

  • @TRUMP-qh8vh

    @TRUMP-qh8vh

    Жыл бұрын

    They are totally out of his league

  • @henrymhp

    @henrymhp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TRUMP-qh8vh What, what makes you think that?

  • @markkaminsky4943
    @markkaminsky4943 Жыл бұрын

    The most important factor for being happy is family. If you have family sorted-out, I believe fulfillment can always be found nearby with movement in the right direction.

  • @exelmans8855

    @exelmans8855

    Жыл бұрын

    Nope. Your children doesn't really care about you. Only what you can give them period.

  • @jackiwannapaint3042
    @jackiwannapaint3042 Жыл бұрын

    look at it this way Lex: you are the greatest possible Lex Fridman

  • @GregDubela
    @GregDubela Жыл бұрын

    Only play Go. Been playing since I was a kid, more fun IMO

  • @danielgrigore93
    @danielgrigore93 Жыл бұрын

    It's nice to hear your extensive opinion.

  • @christopherprobst-ranly6357
    @christopherprobst-ranly6357 Жыл бұрын

    Good luck building your company, can be addicting as well. Make sure to establish limits when spending time on the company.

  • @Jan-jf4th

    @Jan-jf4th

    Жыл бұрын

    why?

  • @christopherprobst-ranly6357

    @christopherprobst-ranly6357

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jan-jf4th Because the own company can also be addicting in terms of time spent.

  • @prasadpappu23
    @prasadpappu23 Жыл бұрын

    Kudos to Lex that he made Andreas voice bearable.

  • @mcm2366
    @mcm2366 Жыл бұрын

    “He’s now faculty somewhere in the US.” Haha love that story Lex.

  • @emill2119
    @emill2119 Жыл бұрын

    Chess is just so amazing and an entire world of beauty. That's why I never played it. - lex friedman

  • @nate.t1739
    @nate.t17398 ай бұрын

    It's hard to say just don't play because it gives you so much. In order to grow as a player and person you MUST love the game more than you love winning. Let those losses BURN. Embrace it because in them lie lessons you can use to grow. You MUST minimize the time commitment to meet your lifestyle or chess will run your life. It's a tool for personal development. You are the king of your life, not a pawn to the game.

  • @RandyLeftHandy
    @RandyLeftHandy Жыл бұрын

    My friends tried to get me into golf and I told them I don't want to play because, like lex, I don't do things halfway. That's not to say that I'm some prodigy, but I'm not going to start something if I don't have the intention to go all the way with it.

  • @steveaustin6858
    @steveaustin6858 Жыл бұрын

    singles tennis is insane, i wonder if it's the hardest sport especially on a high level, hours of relentless pace and precision and changing conditions from the type of court to the weather, to the racket to the balls .

  • @prasannasurange

    @prasannasurange

    Жыл бұрын

    Have you heard of Squash...please give it a thought

  • @steveaustin6858

    @steveaustin6858

    Жыл бұрын

    @@prasannasurange you sir must be insane . tell me you've never watched high level tennis without telling me you've never watched tennis .

  • @RealNewsMMA
    @RealNewsMMA Жыл бұрын

    1:38 choosing not to play chess is a move in itself. One of the reasons I decided to quit playing videos games about a year ago. Still haven’t been able to get out of my self doubt to begin creating content. Not sure what will get me over the hump on it. Saved and bought the equipment a couple of years ago. Part of me wants to uproot and dedicate myself to something, the other part doesn’t have the direction/money/knowledge to do it. I have no partner, no kids, no bills, but also no money. 29, Canadian, looking to inspire.

  • @RealNewsMMA

    @RealNewsMMA

    Жыл бұрын

    7:16 yeah long story short it’s been about 6.5-7 years since I got out of my only relationship and moved home to a small town Self critical nails it

  • @TheChessNeck

    @TheChessNeck

    Жыл бұрын

    Start making content bro. You can improve as you post more and more. Start out with shorts and keep things simple at first.

  • @ghosthunter0950

    @ghosthunter0950

    Жыл бұрын

    video games really don't have to be like that. Playing The Witcher 3, or BOTW or Nier:automata for example is extremely engaging but once you finish the storyline you can stop and not be obsessed with it. these kind of video games are kind of like watching a series but better.

  • @invictuz4803

    @invictuz4803

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ghosthunter0950 Some people are just hardwired to be competitive or accomplished at something, thus the obsession. Single player games and TV shows aren't going to help with that.

  • @quidproquo3933
    @quidproquo3933 Жыл бұрын

    chess is like golf for me . one bad shot per hole ruins my game. and don’t have enough extra brainpower to put to wards getting better(a in either)

  • @archie7218
    @archie7218 Жыл бұрын

    All i want is to be better at chess. I started playing in June 2022 and 6 months in im rated 1200 in rapid. My goal is to eventually get to 2000

  • @bayremriahi3876

    @bayremriahi3876

    11 күн бұрын

    Whats your rating now

  • @archie7218

    @archie7218

    9 күн бұрын

    @@bayremriahi3876 Peaked at 1700 rapid and 1600 bullet. Now play more casually at around 1600 rapid. The goal is still there though

  • @bayremriahi3876

    @bayremriahi3876

    9 күн бұрын

    How did you improve your chess

  • @archie7218

    @archie7218

    9 күн бұрын

    @@bayremriahi3876 Just played 10 min rapid games, learnt a few openings.

  • @PhatLvis
    @PhatLvis Жыл бұрын

    Mistake to equate chess prowess with "intelligence," per se. (No doubt chess players are only eager to do so.) It is a highly specialized ability which draws on a narrow range of mental aptitudes - mainly spatial intelligence and contingency-based planning (as Howard Gardner has elucidated); and also now, more than ever, memorization. Very few great thinkers have been chess masters, and vice-versa. Of course there is also the fact we have seen idiot-savant chess masters.

  • @Jagar_Tharn

    @Jagar_Tharn

    Жыл бұрын

    This feels like the same argument that dismisses advancements in AI as not being "true AI". But I'm too tired to think straight. Good comment. Makes me think.

  • @Woodsaras

    @Woodsaras

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. Iq and chess arent that related

  • @sajtan4968

    @sajtan4968

    2 ай бұрын

    In my opinion, to reach an advanced level in chess, the most important skill is perception, to see whether the opponent has placed an undefended pawn or a simple chess trick. Because you don't win the game with your own brilliant move, but with your opponent's very weak move. This bad move does not define him as a weak player, because at his level he perfectly understands that he made a pointless play, but his perception failed him at that moment.

  • @dwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

    @dwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@sajtan4968sorry but this is absolutely incorrect. At mid to high level chess we do not play with the intent to exploit an opponents bad move, which most of the time will not come, especially with strong players. We play with our own strategies, adapt, and develop plans to force a victory. What you describe is 'hope chess', which is a game only low level players play.

  • @dwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

    @dwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

    Ай бұрын

    Chess prowess is unequivocally related to intelligence. That's not to say that a 2300 rated player is vastly more intelligent than a 1500 rated player. The truest explanation would be that a person below a certain IQ can never become a 1500 rated player, etc. I have never seen an unintelligent person play mid to high level chess.

  • @ivanostellato9478
    @ivanostellato9478 Жыл бұрын

    the second championship is taking the opportunity to try .. the 3rd is sharing it

  • @Jealod24
    @Jealod24 Жыл бұрын

    I truly hope the mystique of chess continues to erode. You don’t have to be a genius to be a grandmaster, you must do what all people do who want to excel in their field… study, practice, and repeat for years, sacrificing almost all other aspects of your life. When I was younger and studying chess full time I used to think grandmasters would calculate 25 moves ahead with multiple variations and lines (and many can)… but the truth is chess is primarily pattern recognition (which is partly why men have an inherent advantage because men evolved to be hunters and explorers and those with the best pattern recognition, spatial reasoning, and orienteering lived on and passed those traits onward… which are advantageous to a chess player). That isn’t to say deep calculation isn’t rewarded… the best players routinely calculate 10-15 moves out in multiple lines, and more important than depth they can do it quickly and accurately. But again, seeing the board in its full scope, manipulating the controlled space as well as the gaps and positioning the pieces to work together and leverage the most utility, memorizing and recognizing tactical motifs, and being able to see your opponents position and wants/needs…. These are all things that anyone can learn and will make you a top player, over 2000 elo. If you spent most of your days playing over a chess board, reviewing old games/positions, and practicing tactics, you would be able to play blindfold chess easily. I’m not even a fide master but I can play blindfold chess. Don’t be discouraged if your not a genius and also, you don’t have to give up all of your other passions to become a great player. Like I said, you won’t be a gm, but you could achieve a very high elo and have a very balanced life.

  • @exelmans8855

    @exelmans8855

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrism6446 Yep. The average schmuck prefer dreaming about winning millions in poker...

  • @ryanjoseph9335

    @ryanjoseph9335

    Жыл бұрын

    What i noticed about super gms is they have exceptional memory. Anyone can be great in chess with hard work and practice, but to reach super gm status, you need to possess special traits.

  • @exelmans8855

    @exelmans8855

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrism6446 facts. Nothing come easy, or it’s worthless. They will learn the hard way.

  • @RunOfTheTrill

    @RunOfTheTrill

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ryanjoseph9335 They have exceptional memory IN CHESS due to the years of encoding techniques they have developed. Encoding is domain specific and typically does not transfer. Occasionally you will see people who find ways to apply their domain specific memory encoding techniques elsewhere, but this is not genius. You could learn to do this too if you put in the effort. This is the subject of the book "Moonwalking with Einstein". There is no general recall expertise, despite what the layperson may think. Which is OPs point. All these misconceptions come from a fundamental misunderstanding of how memory works in actuality.

  • @dangallagher6176

    @dangallagher6176

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RunOfTheTrill THANK YOU, it's a massive pet peeve for me when people think grandmasters have some superhuman memory ability

  • @ivanostellato9478
    @ivanostellato9478 Жыл бұрын

    at what point does win actually win or lose .. people gain so much from trying alone they mistakenly finish the journey before the destination they set out for mistake or naught ... i think we win by having the opprtunbity to try .. thats the first championship

  • @roberthieber1
    @roberthieber1 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve never heard Lex talk so much!

  • @donaldbolson2753
    @donaldbolson2753 Жыл бұрын

    You make me want to work with you in any endeavor.

  • @nikolai1714
    @nikolai17142 ай бұрын

    You are damn good at interviewing Lex, the best I have ever seen.

  • @mikem668
    @mikem668 Жыл бұрын

    Chess is art, science, and competition. I agree with Lex, and have known very strong players that fell into their own minds. For me, competition is the least important. Another way to phrase it is how good do you have to be to appreciate it, but leave room for other things equally beautiful? Partly this is the hedgehog and fox problem. Would you rather know one thing or many things? My chess rating places me somewhere around the 80th percentile. Yet I know enough to discuss chess with masters and IMs. (I once talked with Kasparov for 15 minutes, but we talked politics.) Three of my friends were also Go players, and one played Shogi. When I stopped playing serious chess, I got hooked on Go. The immense differences in the two games are fascinating, but they also shed light on each other. Because I'd been interested in computer chess since Hitech, I also followed AlphaGo. As a beginner. Of course AlphaZero taught even the best players in both Go and chess that they too were beginners. I've returned to playing the guitar seriously late in life. A great guitar teacher says Don't Worry and Don't Compare. Art isn't a competition. It's a way of self- cultivation. It's also real in a way that chess isn't, which Lex sees. Mixing paint, a brush stroke, the visual concentration and freedom it takes to draw... The vibration and variation in tone from picking a guitar string... These place you in the real world in a way that chess does not. Chess is not infinite, and it's not a game in the strict sense. It's a calculation. It has a one of three possible outcomes. And you don't even need a board. Throughout chess history, many of the greatest players recognized this difference. Those who didn't often went crazy. Morphy became a lawyer. Lasker a philosopher and mathematician. Casablanca a diplomat. Fine a psychoanalyst. The Soviet players were opera singers, pianists, and electrical engineers. Lex was right in my opinion. Curiosity requires more food than chess.

  • @Ace-dv5ce

    @Ace-dv5ce

    Жыл бұрын

    I liked the part when you said how good do you have to be to appreciate it but leave room for other things equally as beautiful, I think this is a dilemma than every person who decides to fully commit to a craft experiences. Sacrifice is a necessity but it’s hard to actualize how much or how little to best benefit yourself. There’s simply not enough time to truly master multiple endeavors on an unrelated basis because all which is valuable to pursue can take decades to master and onward, and you realize this an an individuals and firstly well if you want to you have to pick something, and that thing better sustain you all the so it probably helps to have an innate passion towards it outside of just the general interest mastering a craft. Art is a competition but it’s an indirect competition, and one which favors the listener the most. Reason being the one who gets listened to more for example is to more likely to be adept at music and this bring a more aesthetic experience towards the audience, but that only came from competition and countless hours of study and practice and other doing the exact same thing competing for the same thing, but at the top it’s a beautiful thing and I honestly don’t know any better way to do it. I would say it’s self cultivation, but it might also be the crowning achievement of mankind itself. When all things are fixed and invented what are we left with?

  • @mikem668

    @mikem668

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ace-dv5ce I agree with much, probably most, of what you say. But there's a few differences. I'm not sure artists are doing the same thing (I actually doubt it) and I'm not sure the geniuses are competing with their contemporaries. Or at least not most of them. (At this point neither is Magnus.) And while great artists are likely driven, as you point out, they are probably inner directed. They're mostly competing with themselves. Not that they aren't often bitter when they're unrecognized. Picasso competed with Matisse in a sense, but felt he was the only artist capable of understanding him. And they weren't really doing the same thing. Bach was forgotten for years. Same with Melville, and Moby-Dick was years ahead of its time. I think it's possible to compare artists of different eras on influence and the size and inventiveness of their works. However, is Michelangelo a greater artist than Vermeer? Maybe overall. Painter? Hmmm.

  • @Ace-dv5ce

    @Ace-dv5ce

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikem668 No, they are not doing the same thing. Artists don’t compete perse, but for them to make a living they are competing for peoples attention and that in turn makes them compete with other artists who also wants their attention. It’s happening behind the scenes or indirectly but it’s not something that happened outside of that. They are not competing with anyone else besides themselves when they are creating their art this is a generalization but it’s the monetization of how to profit off of it and make a living of it that becomes competitive cause thousands of others want the spot you’re having. And to make that spot you have to be “better” than everyone or a better term is more qualified off certain artistic values and to try to get that you are likely to practice more piano than your competition for example. But it’s more of a side effect than a component of art itself because outside of that it’s basically non existent, the best artists don’t become the best because they were the most competitive, they became the best cause they had natural gifts better than most people yes, we’re they obsessed yes but they put ability, individuality and that indescribable quality you can’t name but you know when you witness it as their main attributes. I think it might be possible to compare art but it’s never the way I see it gonna become an objective truth, and that’s what’s so beautiful about it is we make the value

  • @mikem668

    @mikem668

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ace-dv5ce I think we agree that artists ultimately want an audience. (Who and when is debatable.) We may agree that the function, or maybe the place in the culture, of art has changed. We do agree that attention is limited and that many/most people want and will do almost anything to get it. Warhol said that in the future everyone will be famous for 15 minutes. So the future is now. Several questions arise out of these changes. Who is an artist and what is art? We see more images in a day, than the people in Renaissance Florence saw in a lifetime. Most of it is advertising. Is advertising art? Is someone who takes a selfie and posts it on social media seeking likes an artist? Another question is whether the quality of the art itself wins attention or whether it can be manipulated? And what arts are valued? In other words, do they have an audience and is it niche or mass? Competition is fiercest in the "arts" that require large investments by others to even be able to be practiced at all. I'm thinking of a continuum from architecture to poetry. Not everyone gets to design and build a skyscraper. Poetry doesn't even require a pencil and paper. Movies used to be like architecture. Now? Poetry used to be a major art form. Today, few read it and it seems poets write for themselves and often self-publish. Robert Frost recited a poem and JFK's inauguration. Other than Maya Angelou, I can't remember any others. Arguably Dylan, the Beatles et al have replaced or resurrected the older form of poetry. Yet Emily Dickinson wrote for herself and published nothing during her lifetime IIRC. I left out Hip Hop, because I only know the older stuff. Movies are interesting. Martin Scorcese just deplored the state of cinema today. Extremely expensive and often remakes or franchises made for money. Screenwriting is relevant. Since lots of people want to do it, most writers start out as readers who get paid virtually nothing. Most scripts, even when sold are never made. And even Oscar winning writers end up teaching, selling the dream to other dreamers. The irony is that in the Golden Age of Hollywood, not only were the blockbusters art, but often the B-movies like film noir came to be seen as art. Of course they were often made by great directors who'd escaped Europe in the 30s. But they are an example of commerce creating art, and then inspiring other artists after the war. My own view is that they state of culture. Partly it's my age, partly it's the technological and social changes. The latter include the size of the audience (the baby boom generation was huge) and the fragmentation of the audience, both by taste, but also by how they consume as well as what. Competition produces great athletes on the whole. Maybe better products and ideas. But art? I'm doubtful. Mostly because not every time and place produces art that's valued by posterity. While there is change, there isn't necessarily progress. And what's successful at the time, even in "science" (see Thomas Kuhn), is often ignored. Perhaps mostly ignored. Musicians today are "competing" with over 100 years of recorded music, easily accessible compared to the old days. And most of it is consumed piecemeal, outside of the cultural context. But even then, there are so many genres, for an explorer the choices are infinite. Almost all of them will lose, because the quality of the past is so high. And it's already been filtered. I see extremely good musicians doing mainly covers to attract attention. Wonderful. But so is playing for yourself. Much of the music we prize today started out as ways of entertaining yourself, your family, your neighbors. Blues and country music was curated and amplified. This also happened in the studio. But occasionally someone was so good it was electrifying. Louis Armstrong, Elvis, and the Beatles are the great examples. My guess is that these phenomena emerged due to the particular conditions at a given point in time. But that would be true of Athens, Florence, and Shakespeare's London. It's worth remembering that even Shakespeare was semi-forgotten for a time. Winning a competition might get you heard, but it's no guarantee of success or quality.

  • @Ace-dv5ce

    @Ace-dv5ce

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mikem668 My definition of art would be an endeavor in which acts as a portal and creative outlet for aesthetics , expression of creative ideas and expression of emotions and thoughts transferred onto a screen or a piece of literature or you name it and those aspects are at the forefront of importance at least idealistically, there is going to be some other hardships along the way because most arts are also crafts and let me tell you they’re extremely hard. There are countless art forms, too many to name. But what they have in common is they serve a purpose, not a practical one always but an almost spiritual one. Even abstract art serves a purpose it’s breaking free from boundaries from a structure of what is considered art, I am intrigued by it although I’m not particularly vowed by it. Same goes for very avant-garde music like that of stockhausen take a listen to any of his work it will wow you and you will most likely feel it sounds the worst thing you’ve ever heard but that’s the purposes it’s breaking the structure of music theory and pattern itself and is kind of left in space and it sounds like it. You could think of it like that or think of a three year old making that music cause it was bored, but I’d you decide to listen I urge you to mot question the music internally, every time you think that your enforcing musical beliefs that are limited and short minded, it’s a fun expertise Even the argument that if the majority of people likes it it must be good, then why do we have critics and are critics opinion more important than the majority of the viewers? That’s a topic to discuss aswell. I myself am a musician. and I can tell you that every moment you thought was cool or you had an intense emotional reaction towards wether it was watching a movie or listening to a song that moment captures the essence of what art is and why it exists and why people dedicate their lives to it. If felt it multiple times and There’s very few experiences on earth that compare. That’s why I became a musician cause it can put you in that exact space which is the essence of life. I’m going off on a bit of a tangent here. On a final note I think this time we’re living in is just before robots as indominate the arts, and there’s a little of humanity left to express before that happens, most things are already done but some things are still heh to be uncovered in music.

  • @philipmcbride1275
    @philipmcbride1275 Жыл бұрын

    Take the mistake on the cameras to force you to automate the control of the cameras!

  • @snap-off5383
    @snap-off5383 Жыл бұрын

    We're kinda getting to the point where if you don't dedicate your early life focusing on a singular pursuit you won't get very advanced in any field trying to branch out and be "well rounded".

  • @nonamenoname1942
    @nonamenoname1942 Жыл бұрын

    Lex, you said you want to build a company (AI related, I guess), maybe you should do a podcast with Demis Hassabis? I think it will be a great conversation and great experience for both of you.

  • @jsblack02

    @jsblack02

    Жыл бұрын

    Ummm

  • @whitefang9758

    @whitefang9758

    Жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZqml5KfZr2optI.html

  • @WilliamJonesChess
    @WilliamJonesChess Жыл бұрын

    Key Moments for me Oh dear 05:35 In chess you are fruit-looped life is more forgiving. You can be world-class even by making so many mistakes. 8:18 Feeling shitty has always been productive It makes me long-term happier and more grateful to be alive. another oh dear at 08:52 secret to my success is I hate everything

  • @ahmadbajwa5542
    @ahmadbajwa554215 күн бұрын

    Lex is such a gentleman. A non toxic positive global treasure.

  • @TheLionheartArts
    @TheLionheartArts Жыл бұрын

    Lex you could have a date with either one of these ladies.

  • @ramanmono
    @ramanmono Жыл бұрын

    So what Lex is saying chess is great and takes a lot to get good, but even if you get great it will have taken so much of your life so it's not worth it.

  • @jason.arthur.taylor
    @jason.arthur.taylor Жыл бұрын

    But you could have built up your memory and used it in other fields. A strong memory is extremely versatile. That's why chess helps people become better scientists, mathematicians, engineers, lawyers, etc.

  • @ovieiffie7800
    @ovieiffie7800 Жыл бұрын

    This is the same reason I stopped playing Chess, the first time I encountered real brilliance in Chess and was made aware of the work and time required to get to that level, I knew I didn't have the time to sacrifice for the game so I just stopped, I don't like doing things half assed, I still watch chess videos almost everyday #Agadmator

  • @coleyoutubechannel

    @coleyoutubechannel

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s ridiculous lol just play to have fun

  • @justinava1675

    @justinava1675

    Жыл бұрын

    Theres video games more entertaining to play :-) with just as much complexity more profitable too. Why would you focus on chess? What is it 1990?

  • @exelmans8855

    @exelmans8855

    Жыл бұрын

    @@coleyoutubechannel yeah, but then you lose.

  • @exelmans8855

    @exelmans8855

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justinava1675 we don't care about entertainment. We chess players.

  • @MasterJoeKerr
    @MasterJoeKerr Жыл бұрын

    Let me guess it’s not as simple as he just didn’t feel like it?

  • @mstryodann
    @mstryodann Жыл бұрын

    Wow. Just wow. Thank you all. 😘

  • @vasdgod
    @vasdgod Жыл бұрын

    Dice chess is the new trend now.

  • @cyronixed
    @cyronixed Жыл бұрын

    I think it's healthy to play a chess until a certain level and get good at it, I myself had 2046 DWZ and 2089 ELO (but more proud of my DWZ than ELO, because there are players with 1800 DWZ and have 2000 ELO and proudly tell they are 2000 players which is ridicuclous, ELO is not a real rating, a newb with one or two good tournaments can achieve that and still be a noob)... I think this is the sweet spot, investing more time to the next level, i.e. 2200, is just too much time and effort ... I think it's important to have something in your youth to compete in and strive to be good at, to develop your mind ... the mistake lex is doing here he thinks these are isolated activities, but there are often side effects, endurance athletes in cross country skiing can get good at other endurance sports like cycling for example ... a lot of unknown side effects, and there is still nothing like face to face competition, you cant emulate that in a field like mathematics, I would say someone multitalented with strong focus on mathematics will be a better mathematician than some onesided cripple who just does just mathematics

  • @alexp-ru
    @alexp-ru Жыл бұрын

    Lex: I decided not to play chess when I asked Magnus: is Evan's Gambit a real thing? :)

  • @TessaTickle
    @TessaTickle Жыл бұрын

    Two girls, one Lex.

  • @onetruekeeper
    @onetruekeeper Жыл бұрын

    Chess is like Rubik's Cube. Some people can play it and others will never really catch on.

  • @nonamenoname1942

    @nonamenoname1942

    Жыл бұрын

    @Taylor Strand I think the question is - does playing and mastering these gives you something (some abilities) beyond just being good at these?

  • @dooflydetailguuy4349
    @dooflydetailguuy4349 Жыл бұрын

    Life is a game too, it's peaceful to simplify life into a simple board, 64 squares and wooden pieces. Enjoy yourself. Work harder than others. Do whatever you want. Every topic in life is just as dead end as Chess if you talk yourself into it.

  • @exelmans8855

    @exelmans8855

    Жыл бұрын

    You are the man.

  • @ChickFilA_Sauce
    @ChickFilA_Sauce Жыл бұрын

    why bother mastering chess when you could master ai and build an algo thatll master chess for you

  • @CommentSectionsSuck
    @CommentSectionsSuck Жыл бұрын

    My cousin once played 15 games of chess against his chess team teammates in university, blindfolded, simultaneously. Won all of them. He worked at Los Alamos. Lol He taught me to play chess. I had a computer chess game programmed with a Russian Grand Master. I could maybe play up to level 4 and do alright, but lose mostly. He would smoke that thing on its highest level. Quirky guy, very intelligent, but nice, kind and a good teacher.

  • @kurtsydavis7517

    @kurtsydavis7517

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol blind folded yea ok

  • @kurtsydavis7517

    @kurtsydavis7517

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CommentSectionsSuck Yes he is

  • @ibn-aaam4170
    @ibn-aaam4170 Жыл бұрын

    His demeanor giving HitMan Agent 47 vibe.

  • @duelz3885
    @duelz3885 Жыл бұрын

    Lex got smoked by a drunk blind chess player one day, n said naw ima head out of the chess game.

  • @mjdagoat7916
    @mjdagoat7916 Жыл бұрын

    So Lex has recent videos of learning about sex, dating and now has two ladies on. Well played Sir! 🍻

  • @ppmalmsteen
    @ppmalmsteen Жыл бұрын

    Chess addiction :D something funny about that phrase, like having to go to rehab because of it :D

  • @abolstad7104
    @abolstad7104 Жыл бұрын

    Judgement and assumption filter life . Paradox is Beautiful, perfectly imperfect. Thanks Lex for another great conversation

  • @draigan
    @draigan Жыл бұрын

    Lol Lexi laying on the charm

  • @jesusizabeaner.
    @jesusizabeaner. Жыл бұрын

    Hi Lex

  • @hosnaaa6555
    @hosnaaa6555 Жыл бұрын

    I love this man!

  • @di380
    @di380 Жыл бұрын

    Hahaha I can’t even remember the last piece I moved when I play chess😂

  • @Adam-tp8py
    @Adam-tp8py Жыл бұрын

    Lex usually talks so calmly. It's almost like his interviewees are making him nervous...wonder why.

  • @gabrielbotsford791
    @gabrielbotsford791 Жыл бұрын

    Think chess is a dangerous addiction? Try music....

  • @calebhurlbert6817

    @calebhurlbert6817

    Жыл бұрын

    I do both, and nothing else.

  • @Ace-dv5ce

    @Ace-dv5ce

    Жыл бұрын

    @@calebhurlbert6817 Why chess may I ask? I’m in music school and I know several who do music and chess. I play a little cause it’s fun but I can’t understand why people take it so seriously and find it so rewarding. 50 years ago definetly im sure people had playing styles they had originality and all of that now all that’s basically gone along with most of it just being memorization and theory knowledge rather than thoughtful and creative decision making.

  • @calebhurlbert6817

    @calebhurlbert6817

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ace-dv5ce I understand why you would think that. Its somewhat true and bobby fisher notoriously preached it. However, that problem is almost exclusive to grandmasters. If you memorize a 30 move line in the ruy lopez and your opponent doesn't know it, then it's useless. If you memorize an 8 move opening in the kings indian defense and get an advantage it's almost meaningless because you can always make a mistake or subtle inaccuracy that will let your opponent equalize. Unless you are playing perfectly then memorization isn't so decisive. Because there isn't one best way to play (and if there was everyone would know it so they would play something else anyway) it gives room for different style.

  • @Ace-dv5ce

    @Ace-dv5ce

    Жыл бұрын

    @@calebhurlbert6817 Yeah exactly, if you’re playing chess as a past time and hobby that’s probably the best way to do it, but if you decide to make it your life and become a grandmaster I can see that’s when the problems arrive. To a beginner there’s seems to be lot of options, to an expert there is very few

  • @stefanocioni2587
    @stefanocioni2587 Жыл бұрын

    Young sister in awe of lex I think

  • @darktower74
    @darktower74 Жыл бұрын

    Here's an argument against chess.... mastering many things requires some obsession and a tremendous investment, but many things benefit more than just you. Like becoming a doctor requires a powerful mind and thousands upon thousands of hours studying and such.. but then you get to help people AND yourself. What does chess get you? Unless you are the top 1% of the 1%, you get diddly fuck all apart from the joy of the game. It's a hobby, not a career.

  • @exelmans8855

    @exelmans8855

    Жыл бұрын

    Today modern doctors are mostly killing people and i speaking FACTS. Playing chess is far more innoffensive.

  • @Ace-dv5ce

    @Ace-dv5ce

    Жыл бұрын

    Doctor is a profession, I don’t think cutting peoples brains and bodies quailing as a hobby unless you’re a psychopath or prescribing pills to people you can be passionate about your work but Games like chess or music or any other art are so magnificent that it’s worth it to spend your whole life doing it and that to me is a great human achievement. But the thing about is when we have all the doctors and all the needs I. Society that’s when we start doing this stuff

  • @talhadawood7969
    @talhadawood7969 Жыл бұрын

    because he's been programed to play physical chess. Called human interaction

  • @toby9999
    @toby9999 Жыл бұрын

    I like playing chess as an intellectual challenge but I don't like playing against other players. I'm non competitive by nature. My main passion is computer chess. Playing against computers and developing chess engines. Computer programming and AI techniques in particular have always held a fascination.

  • @Alex-sk2lb
    @Alex-sk2lb Жыл бұрын

    from magnus to the botez sisters...

  • @exelmans8855

    @exelmans8855

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep. The world is pathetic.

  • @crazyprayingmantis5596
    @crazyprayingmantis5596 Жыл бұрын

    I don't play chess because I'd rather spend that time listening to Captain Beefheart

  • @yew2oob954
    @yew2oob954 Жыл бұрын

    Good God these women are smart, beautiful, and charming. Please...Lex...tell me you asked one of them out.

  • @Beanths
    @Beanths Жыл бұрын

    He doesn't play chess, he makes algorithm that play chess ^.^

  • @towhee7472
    @towhee7472 Жыл бұрын

    I feel way better since I stopped playing.

  • @etofok
    @etofok Жыл бұрын

    6 cameras wtf you need them for? fool proof redundancy?

  • @kikoredog
    @kikoredog Жыл бұрын

    you know lex got that double-double after the show :D

  • @WhalesWilly

    @WhalesWilly

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol some wishful thinking right there

  • @iluvatarchem
    @iluvatarchem Жыл бұрын

    Many GMs are extremely uneducated with bad manners, ethics and behavior in general (Hikaru been the most clear example). Exactly the point of this vid.

  • @UnBeraBull
    @UnBeraBull Жыл бұрын

    Commenting without watching this - "Because Lex completed the game already"

  • @isaaclaflam1321
    @isaaclaflam1321 Жыл бұрын

    Who are these girls?

  • @knotNyourHead
    @knotNyourHead Жыл бұрын

    3 some after the show?

  • @ricomajestic

    @ricomajestic

    Жыл бұрын

    And then Rogan knocks on the door!

  • @patrickkirby5079
    @patrickkirby5079 Жыл бұрын

    a monotonous and incomplete music drifted on the wind over the barren land along the ravine

  • @LovacDotCH
    @LovacDotCH Жыл бұрын

    i agree ^^

  • @donelmore2540
    @donelmore2540 Жыл бұрын

    In The Queen’s Gambit, they said that the Russians play like a team and support one another.

  • @jbone3777
    @jbone3777 Жыл бұрын

    Women having opinions is always funny

  • @jonjojr
    @jonjojr Жыл бұрын

    I used to play chess, I used to love it. I stopped playing the game because it became a memory game. People can now memorize 100s of strategies in their mind and the internet has made that even worst. So it became an arms race of memory, and I just did not want to spend the energy memorizing strategies. I can no longer count on a clever tactical game of chess. I play the game on occasion, with younger folks who want to play with an old gamer like me. Upon the first move, I can already see their heads churning to see which pattern I have used so they can dig deep in their memorized strategy book to make the next move. No game evolves organically out of tactics, just memory.

  • @1ch1r10

    @1ch1r10

    Жыл бұрын

    Every game gets analyzed. I would recommend blitz or some other chess variation.

  • @Ben-xj6su

    @Ben-xj6su

    Жыл бұрын

    Just make a new move and get out of book

  • @BobbySee2

    @BobbySee2

    Жыл бұрын

    Try poker, the variance is like no other.

  • @vexcel6958

    @vexcel6958

    Жыл бұрын

    Just play sidelines

  • @mason4354

    @mason4354

    Жыл бұрын

    I would pick up a trading card game like MTG or legends of runeterra. Very strategic and some cool fantasy lore if you are so inclined

  • @mystery0793
    @mystery0793 Жыл бұрын

    Lex, if you need to be able to hold eye contact for longer with girls bro

  • @kman7680
    @kman7680 Жыл бұрын

    Respect

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