The pattern recognition became very clear to me when I learned Morse code. The human brain takes 50 milliseconds to process and understand a sound. People regularly send and receive Morse code at 30 words per minute, which puts the dit character and the gap between all characters at 40 milliseconds. So you literally have to process sounds faster than the brain can recognize them. Over time you start to hear whole words in the code rather than individual letters, but you still have to decode call signs character by character. You basically cache the sounds in your brain without processing them, and once the whole set of characters passes, your brain is able to turn it into an idea and add it to the stack of previous ideas while your ears are already caching the next set of characters.

@NarutoMagicCyclops

Жыл бұрын

It's even more interesting when you start learning the patterns to how people drive. You can pretty much predict what someone is going to do just based on how they position the vehicle. And being a bus driver it's a good skill to have. It's surprising how many people share the exact same methods of cutting into traffic or in front of a 20t vehicle that could squish their pathetic trucks. It's great for avoiding accidents on and off work. Truck drivers though... They can be 50/50.

@chrismcaulay7805

Жыл бұрын

This is the same as reading a word, rather than a letter... Its just using a different system (auditory, rather than visual). Our brains LOVE to group (or "chunk") things given the understanding and oppertunity.

@skinovtheperineum1208

Жыл бұрын

I had a schizo co-worker one time who could pick snippets of dialog out of white radio noise.

@khabuda

Жыл бұрын

@@skinovtheperineum1208 "Go into the light!"

@hysteria8455

Жыл бұрын

@@khabuda where did u learn morse code i wanna give it a try..?

"we should be wary of experts who don't have repeated experience with feedback" perfectly nailed it.

@darklight898

Жыл бұрын

@13:00 how does that formula work

@trspanda2157

Жыл бұрын

Jesus loves us all that's why he died for our sins

@XKnightLightX

Жыл бұрын

there are ways to make up for experience but this is a conversation that you're not prepared for. Also people can speak from experience and also receive second hand experience. There are requirements to being able to make up for lack of real experience.

@sunbleachedangel

Жыл бұрын

@@XKnightLightX that's what a non expert would say

@XKnightLightX

Жыл бұрын

@@sunbleachedangel thats just my elevator pitch. Your comment isnt valid until you examine my entire idea so

As a chess player I want to make a little correction. The feedback is not just winning or losing, but rather its cause and effect. Developing or leaving pieces in certain places leads to different outcomes as a butterfly effect. At first you cannot recognize what action or inaction caused the whole avalanche that leads to you dominating or losing, but with time you start to recognize for example that leaving your bishop over there always allows the opponent to attack. So your feedback is actually recognizing how patterns or moves lead to other patterns.

@TreespeakerOfTheLand

Жыл бұрын

That is actually quite a good point. I am a beginner at chess and I am seeing more and more patterns, as well as the butterfly effect. It's really cool haha

@Shvetsario

10 ай бұрын

I use the same concept to improve my skills in drawing realistically or learning music. I don’t watch tutorials, I pay attention to exactly where I went wrong and how I can improve it, targeting that specific weakness

@SkyLordPanglot

9 ай бұрын

@@userh6699 What is from what book?

@SkyLordPanglot

9 ай бұрын

​@@danielburleson563Check the likes again 🙂

@danielburleson563

9 ай бұрын

@@SkyLordPanglot you have 500 likes when top comments usually have tens of thousands? Wow buddy, you're really bragging huh

Become an expert: 1. Repeated Attempts with Feedback 2. Valid Environment 3. Timely Feedback 4. Don't Get Too Comfortable Build Long term memory: 1. Valid Environment 2. Many Repetitions 3. Timely Feedback 4. Deliberate Practice

@IDMYM8

5 ай бұрын

What do you mean to say?

@SyahmiLaggger

Ай бұрын

Its interesting that 1,2 and 4 are just the same thing. Deliberate challenging practice with timely feedback. And then less probabilistic environment.

@benravenhill484

25 күн бұрын

cool bro

@kirillstp

3 күн бұрын

An expert is someone physically unable to say "I don't know"

I recently had a MASSIVE argument with my university because they repeatedly did not provide any feedback to essays or exams. Just a mark and that's it. I backed my perspective with a ton of academic works on education, that I doubt any of them ever read. I'm going to show them this video. Because university courses that don't provide feedback are virtually useless.

@wouldyoureturntomonke2452

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully you got them feedbacks

@stressedbyamountainofbooks

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention the occasional mistakes which in turn is an undetectable false feedback

@maiyenish8552

Жыл бұрын

They will point to #2 or #4. You point to #3 They will point you to your instructor's office hours.

@PeteQuad

Жыл бұрын

I'll play devil's advocate and say that a normal university course is not trying to make you an expert at a skill. Reading about a topic and then writing your thoughts down will give you a level of knowledge about it that allows you to begin to think critically about it. It is only a starting point to becoming an expert, if you want to take that path. No one expects someone coming out of college to be an expert in anything.

@hunszaszist

Жыл бұрын

​@@PeteQuad quite a steep price for what's equivalent to watching a KZread playlist or taking a Udemy course

Getting comfortable is the part that always kills me. I learn very quickly but once I get something down fairly well, I stop challenging myself and just rest on that success.

@charlesparr1611

Жыл бұрын

I think thats actually a positive, i would think that in almost any situation, having a good command of many skills and subjects, and being able to move on to the next thing fairly often would have much greater utility. First, because in most things experts are not that much more useful than the merely competent. If you spend ten times the resources and time to become twice as good, then that only matters much in fairly specific tasks. secondly, what happens if your area of expertise either beomes irrelevant or you are unable to use that expertise for some other reason? Imagine being the star running back through high school and college, certain to be drafted. Since the age of 8 that guy has devoted unbeleivable time and effort, got a scholarship that was of necessity a basketweaving degree (not all but most football players do not get useful degrees or even finish them) and so lost that opportunity for education, and suffers a career ending injury in the second last game of a college season. All that expert knowledge all that training just became useless, at best they might have some crossover skills, and depending on the expertise there might be few of those. Perhaps your own 'weakness'n is a strength?

@ynemey1243

Жыл бұрын

Comfort level doesn't matter at all. Deliberate practice does.

@daniss8828

Жыл бұрын

@@ynemey1243 l

@abrartanim6740

Жыл бұрын

this is literally me

@schechter01

Жыл бұрын

A lot of us have that problem.

I think there's another way to think about this A. Expertise is about recognizing the pattern B. Recognizing pattern comes from storing highly structured information in the long-term memory via FEEDBACK Four things it takes to store highly structured information in the long-term memory via FEEDBACK 1. Repeated Attemps (WITH FEEDBACK) - you must have some type of feedback first 2. Valid Environment (PROPER FEEDBACK) - the feedback should give you valuable lesson to improve the next time 3. TIMELY FEEDBACK 4. Deliberate practice (PROGRESSIVELY UPGRADE FEEDBACK) because overlapping & repeating feedback won't help you become better, it must be upgraded over time for new lessons, and hence improved expertise accordingly -> As you can see, it all surrounds feedback, which indeed, is the core of learning, recognizing pattern as we see in machine learning. After all, ti's about using feedback in the right way, right?

@duyminh9526

11 ай бұрын

suy nghĩ bạn sâu thật đấy, cảm ơn b vì bài học giá trị

@RaphyJmusic

8 ай бұрын

I like this way you broke it down 👌

@softwareamedida

7 ай бұрын

Great one!!!!

@Radiers

2 ай бұрын

underrated comment

@falsonaga

2 ай бұрын

Commenting so I can always come back to this comment

Man. You just clarified a concept which I was struggling to understand for years. Literally years. You definitely deserve validation for your work. A big thanks to you.

@RaphyJmusic

8 ай бұрын

@@userh6699 ah interesting, does it have all the 4 concepts?

04:56 1. Repeated Attempts with feedback 06:52 2. Valid Environment 11:23 3. Timely Feedback 13:46 4. Don't get too comfortable

@TrainsandRockets

Жыл бұрын

I was looking for it...thanks

@libertyprime7911

Жыл бұрын

It's funny how many times this comment is repeated. I'm becoming an expert.

@darklight898

Жыл бұрын

@13:00 how does that formula work

@menuhin

Жыл бұрын

16:32 To build up memories (as an expert), it requires 4 things: - Valid Environment - Many Repetitions - Timely Feedback - Deliberate Practice

@kgill99

Жыл бұрын

Would it be easier to say -practice a lot -with timely feedback -where the feedback is valid -and also when you practice drill down into what you are doing

5:00 repeated attempts with feedback 6:47 valid environment 11:23 timely feedback 13:50 don't get too comfortable

@CrazyGaming-ig6qq

Жыл бұрын

0:00 beginning 8:59 middle 17:58 end

@andresquijanouc6195

Жыл бұрын

0:28 random number generated 4:30 random number generated 7:24 random number generated 12:56 random number generated

@nadeembajwa8530

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@RaisedBySheeps

Жыл бұрын

you're a baller, king. added 18 minutes to my life from this summary. maybe you are actually a god and not a man. i already have a father but you can be my daddy

@Kaiwizz

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I have seen this video a couple of times, but sometimes I just forget his exact wording. You just spared me the hassle of scrubbing through the video for a refresher.

As a teacher, I think this info is so important. As students we are taught to perceive ourselves as one form of learning, instead we actually learn best from multiple approaches.

@lizanna6390

10 ай бұрын

I remember they tested us all as whether we were kinesthetic, audio or visual learners. Luckily a lot of teachers pretty much ignored the results.

I now grasp the concept of leverage. Creating wealth and financial freedom isn't as tough as many people believe. Building wealth and remaining financially stable indefinitely is a lot easier with the appropriate information. Participating in financial programs and products is the only true approach to make a high income and remain affluent indefinitely.

@angelicstennett

6 ай бұрын

Most people simply enter the foreign exchange market without comprehending matters like this. The first stage in building money is determining your goals and risk tolerance, which you may do on your own or with the assistance of a financial counselor who works with a verified Finance agency. And also you can learn the facts about saving and investing and create a clear plan, you should be able to acquire financial security over time and enjoy the benefits of income management.

@luis-gabriel1

6 ай бұрын

That is why I work with John Desmond Heppolette, who introduced me to a better financial community, a valid organization where I learned how investing works and how to invest proficiently, as well as free books, courses, and daily lectures. You also get to meet new people, which was the best decision I ever made..

@-Pamela

6 ай бұрын

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@Hoffmanluiz.

6 ай бұрын

It amazes me greatly how I go from living an average lifestyle to making over £63k monthly, utter shock is the word. I've learned a lot in the past few years to doubt that there are plenty of opportunities abound in the financial markets; the only thing is know where to focus.. Thanks to John Desmond Heppolette.

@williamculligan

6 ай бұрын

John Desmond Heppolette, really seem to know this stuff. I found his web-page when I made a google search of his full names, read through his resume, educational background, qualifications and it was really impressive. I left him a note and booked a call session with him..

The four things are 1. Valid environment (chess is valid, roulette is random) 2. Many repetitions (predicting election results is hard as they are rare events with low repetitions vs. tennis shots) 3. Timely feedback (anesthesiologist gets instant feedback vs. radiologist gets delayed feedback) 4. Deliberate practice (practice at the edge of your comfort zone, identify weakness and work on it)

@KenDM

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Watched this vid a while ago, didn't take notes. Thanks to your comment I recalled everything again without the need to spend 20 mins again.

@legendaperfeitadotrap

Жыл бұрын

THE THUTH

@savageantelope3306

Жыл бұрын

Seem obvious when you break them fown

@user-rj1zw6hh6l

9 ай бұрын

Thanks mate

@kirbt0352

9 ай бұрын

@@userh6699 it's in the description

Wow, this was incredibly insightful!

@prabhat_sharma

Жыл бұрын

XD You're here too?!

@alfiethomson3349

Жыл бұрын

wow chess itself amazing

@romerrosales-hasek1961

Жыл бұрын

do u know how magnus guessed the zapata vs anand game? it was literally 2 moves in and a petrov, which is a pretty common opening. i think im missing something lol

@thyblackpanther

Жыл бұрын

They got a channel

@vladpetre5674

Жыл бұрын

@@romerrosales-hasek1961 ​ There's no other memorable game in a Petroff. Similarly had the position started with a couple of moves in the Philidor, Magnus would have said Morphy's opera game. I know these even if I'm just 1500. But make no mistake, Maggie can recognize some very obscure GM games

" To become an expert, you need to practice for thousands of hours in the uncomfortable zone, attempting the things you can't do quite yet ". This is powerful. It encapsulates the main ideas so beautifully. I am grateful for finding this video and thank you for sharing it with us.

The last part hit so hard for me, my grandpa is a very good musician, and he didn’t study music but his brother offered him a job as a pianist when he only knew the basics but he needed to provide for a family of 5 children so he took the job he played piano and organ every day for many for many hours, he told me that he didn’t like playing the piano but the few times I have heard him he plays extremely good and knows about a ton of stuff that not even my mother knew about, like when he was in my home studio he started patching my synth and started jamming and my mom was like you know how to used that? And he was like: yeah, and I hate it! I’m not sure what made him hate music that much he eventually bought a building and started renting apartments and sold all his instruments, but still getting out of his comfort zone made him a great musician

@biggSHNDO

24 күн бұрын

I reckon if he had to do it to support his family, he felt he was being forced to do it for money and that sucked the joy out. Thanks for telling the story though I enjoyed it

@CSSLN

24 күн бұрын

@@biggSHNDO yeah, I think that art might be fun only when you do it because you liked it in the first place, but well I don't judge him he'll have his reasons, however it would be cool that he liked to play piano, it could be a good hobby for him now that he doesn't have anything to do hehe, still glad you enjoy his story

The Four Things are: 4:55 1. Repeated attempts with feedback 6:48 2. Valid Environment 11:22 3. Timely Feedback 13:52 4. Don’t get too comfortable

@HDTomo

Жыл бұрын

This be it. 2x speed viewer come in clutch 10 mins after uplaod

@susbaca

Жыл бұрын

why

@maruftim

Жыл бұрын

@@HDTomo i suppose they are an expert at this

@HDTomo

Жыл бұрын

@@maruftim go at 2x the speed to learn 2x faster 😎😎😎

@imveryangryitsnotbutter

Жыл бұрын

@@HDTomo Seems legit

4:03 - Definition of the expertise 5:00 - Repeated attemps with feedback 6:46 - Valid environment 11:21 - Timely feedback 13:50 - Don't get too comfortable

@HandGrenadeDivision

Жыл бұрын

at which point is the definition of expert given?

@0000song0000

Жыл бұрын

Nice. That explains why people get easily into the habit of videogaming, which has all of these. Ergo, we need more educational games! 🤗

@halzion

Жыл бұрын

@@0000song0000 honestly never even realised that! no wonder games are so addictive. it's like doing a hobby but since it's been specifially designed to do each of these things (cus of how they work) it gives way more dopamine than a less consistent "regular" hobby!

@idek50

Жыл бұрын

nice

@hakim5939

Жыл бұрын

@@0000song0000 Also it's because of rewards, every time you get a kill/point/score you get dopamine.

Success depends on the actions or steps you take to achieve it. Building wealth involves developing good habits like regularly putting money away in intervals for solid investments. Financial management is a crucial topic that most tend to shy away from, and ends up haunting them in the near future.., I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life!!

@smithlenn

6 ай бұрын

Starting early is simply the best way of getting ahead to build wealth , investing remains a priority . I learnt from my last year's experience , I am able to build a suitable life beause I invested early ahead this time .

@dawsondanny990

6 ай бұрын

The rich Invest in alternative income streams that are independent of the government should be the top priority for everyone right now. especially given the global economic crisis we are currently experiencing. Stocks, gold, silver, and virtual currencies are still attractive investments at the moment...

@ivankagel9949

6 ай бұрын

I thought about investing in the real estate market, I heard that people make millions , but I lack good knowledge and a strategy to outperform the market and generate good yields. I have $460,000 but it's hard to bite the bullet and do it. Money is hard to come by

@belljoe

6 ай бұрын

Having an investment advisor is the best way to go. Based on a direct encounter with a CFP named Kate Elizabeth Amdall, I can say with certainty that their skills are excellent. She helped raise over $580,000 in 18 months from an initially stagnant portfolio of $150,000

@ivankagel9949

6 ай бұрын

INTERESTING!! can u share more details?

One of the BEST videos I've ever watched on your channel. Extremely eye opening. Stuff that you feel and you know but you don't know how to prove or explain them

This is a very timely video for the start of a new college term in September - I'll definitely be showing this to my new students!

@vaisakhkm783

Жыл бұрын

and as a student... i learned a big lesson, as why i am not improving in the areas i already know somewhat ok, but improving in topics i don't know

@RT-ol4hh

Жыл бұрын

College. Hah. You mean indoctrination centers. They used to be institutions of enlightenment. No longer. They’ve been usurped by left wing intolerant extremists.

@giveussomevodka

Жыл бұрын

Equally timely for a midlife crisis programmer, stuck doing the same stuff for nearly a decade.

@Toothless_dance

Жыл бұрын

Go for it

@OfficiallySnek

Жыл бұрын

Please don't remind me that summer break is almost over

I like how people are saying how well the video was made or how great the video is when this was dropped LITERAL SECONDS AGO.

@axbs4863

Жыл бұрын

LMAO IKR

@MrUssy101

Жыл бұрын

Why does this guy thinks we need to be expert in everything you ain’t no better than me, I am happy being averrage !!!!

@ooooof9517

Жыл бұрын

@@MrUssy101 maybe he just want to share things that he’s learned and thinks is valuable or important or maybe just interesting..

@paulking5199

Жыл бұрын

Clearly people can watch stuff faster than me lol

@IvanTube0

Жыл бұрын

its bots

Becoming a good trader takes time and patience. When i first got into trading i was liquidated twice, and lost my entire mortgage deposit. I could have given up, but decided to learn how to trade and put it into practice. 4 years later and i am glad i made that decision.

@Robertgriffinne

10 ай бұрын

When did you start finding consistency? ..and more honest question is how long would a rough expectation be to find consistency for a new day trader?

@Dannykay331

10 ай бұрын

@@Robertgriffinne I started becoming more consistent in 3 phases, first was when i killed greed, then i became more patient, but he must important part was when i started working with a coach who made me understand the importance of avoiding FUD, FOMO AND HERDS mentality. with her entry and exit strategies i was able to grow $10k to $70k in 5 months in a well diversified portfolio

@Recemadison

10 ай бұрын

@@Dannykay331 who is your coach if this is not too much i'm asking? I've been looking into advisors lately myself, my retirement plans are going down the drain, my 401k has particularly lost everything gained since 2019

@Dannykay331

10 ай бұрын

@@Recemadison Maria Elizabeth Filindras, She has been of great help and her tutelage has brought me to a higher understanding of profit generation. You can look her on your browser for her page in order to reach.

@partyhardcake

10 ай бұрын

The bots are becoming more advanced

I love videos like this one, it makes us think about trivial things with more insight than we usually do.

4:54 - many repeated attempts with feedback 6:46 - a valid (predictable) environment 11:20 - timely feedback 13:50 - don't get too comfortable

@bossgd100

Жыл бұрын

thank you

@LucasDimoveo

Жыл бұрын

thank you

@MrSalamandave

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I was taking notes, but somehow overlooked point 3. @ironmanmason do you have other ideas, or a video recommendation with better advice?

@joelgeorge8192

Жыл бұрын

Isn't point 4 deliberate practice?

@AVATARW0

Жыл бұрын

bless your soul

FOUR THINGS YOU NEED TO BECOME AN EXPERT 1. valid environment (structured, patterned) 2. many repetitions (not once-in-a-lifetime thing) 3. timely feedback (feedback as soon as you perform an action) 4. deliberate practice (practice outside of your comfort zone, at the edge of our ability, the zone of proximal learning)

@har1b

Жыл бұрын

Valid environment Many repitation Timely feedback Deliberate practice

@randomuser5237

Жыл бұрын

Writing out in bullet points and memorizing it will not make you an expert any more than watching the video. Unless you do these yourself there's no point.

@marcolerena456

Жыл бұрын

Valid environment Many repetition Timely feedback Deliberate practice

@Mephistofred

Жыл бұрын

Valid Feedback Many Environment Timely Practice Deliberate Repetition

@uhhwhateverdude9463

Жыл бұрын

@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Your comment is irrelevant to the video. Move along bot spammer!

After a horrendous 2022, shell-stunned financial backers have misfortunes to recover and a lot to consider, as an expansion report and a pile of different information did close to nothing to change assumptions that the Central bank would probably keep climbing interest rates regardless of whether the economy dials back, And that implies more red ink for portfolios for the principal quarter of year 2023. How might I benefit from the ongoing unstable market, I'm currently at a junction choosing if to exchange my $250k security/stock portfolio

@leonarodwell

10 ай бұрын

Centre around two key targets. In the first place, remain safeguarded by realising when to offer stocks to cut misfortunes and catch benefits. Second, get ready to benefit when the market turns around. I suggest you look for the direction a representative or monetary consultant.

@jirinamuzikova

10 ай бұрын

@@leonarodwell In-fact, ever since coronavirus I've been in regular conversation with financial examiners. Nowadays, buying moving stocks is quite easy; the trick is knowing when to buy and when to sell. The section and leave orders for my portfolio are made by my counsel. accumulated more than $550,000 from a $150,000 savings that was initially stale.

@jetkastrokdova

10 ай бұрын

@@jirinamuzikova Thats true, I've been getting assisted by a FA for almost a year now, I started out with less than $200K and I'm just $19,000 short of half a million in profit.

@Gracej34

10 ай бұрын

@@jetkastrokdova _Mind sharing info on the adviser who assisted you? been saving for pension since age 18 - company scheme. along the way I hit higher tax, so I added to my company pension with a SIPP (tax benefits) I'm 46 now and would love to grow my finance more aggressively, there are a few cars I still wish to drive, a few mega holidays, etc.

@jetkastrokdova

10 ай бұрын

@@Gracej34 >The advisor that guides me is CHARLOTTE ANNE MCCONELL most likely the internet is where to find her basic info, just search her name. She's established

What I learned through this video : 1. Valid Environment 2. Repetitive Action(with feedback) 3. Timely Feedback 4. Deliberate Practice But it also requires things most important of them all "Patience" and "Perseverance".

"Don't get comfortable" is a lesson I'd like to drive home by this statistic: some 70-90% of accidental finger amputations happen at 2 ages, 16 and 60. All the time in between those ages is marked by remarkably safe individuals who go their entire career without a single incident. Before and after those ages is when nearly every finger is removed via _any_ means. Below 16, the reasons are typically doors, mowers, and knives. After 60, the reasons are power tools, typically the sort of hand tool an individual would've used for his entire career, probably without incident. Personally, my finger was removed at 16, following an exceptionally poor night of sleep, followed by a very late arrival at work, where I needed to do about 2 days' worth of catch up work, with a poorly maintained chopsaw (miter saw), in an environment with a poor (but improving) attitude towards safety. That chopsaw removed my finger about 2 hours after starting work, and I became part of that aforementioned statistic.

@DROGOC0P

Жыл бұрын

very interesting statistic. thanks for sharing your story

@cynthiabauer5763

Жыл бұрын

thanks for sharing your story. Sorry you lost your finger, I hope one day Jesus resurrects you with a brand new finger again!

@Michael-mn4ef

Жыл бұрын

I'll sure as hell bet the attitude towards safety was improving after that lmao

@mage3690

Жыл бұрын

@@Michael-mn4ef yeah, even if it did take a while. I was actually fired from a later job for my laissez-faire attitude towards safety, but I'm much better about it now, thank goodness.

@ShalomSimplified

Жыл бұрын

Fascinating statistic. My uncle was an outlier. He is a carpenter by trade, but was careless with one of his saws. (A table saw, I think?) It was so fast, he didn't even feel his finger come off at first. I'm not sure how old he was, but he was well under 60, probably in his 20s or 30s.

Mathematician here. I did a lot of teaching when I was in grad school, and this video really hits all the nails on all the heads. Only in my last year did I figure out a concrete mantra to tell my students, encouraging them to not get discouraged by challenging problems because you only improve a skill by pushing yourself beyond what's comfortable. (The words I used were "engaging with uncertainty" rather than "deliberate practice", but they amounted to the same thing.)

@johnno4127

Жыл бұрын

I taught a little math myself and had started to realize "there is no learning without failure" but I didn't get to implement that as a positive strategy before I left the profession.

@trumanhw

Жыл бұрын

@@johnno4127 Nor adequate short term memory adequate for the task ... and, the desire for them to actually understand (if it was to be useful / deep knowledge).

@kongolandwalker

Жыл бұрын

Also "We learn from mistakes" is a helpful phrase. If we never make mistakes - we learned the theme, and to become better we have to solve problems which are "on the edge" of our knowledge, where we can still make mistakes.

@jeannewillemse6433

Жыл бұрын

I have so much respect for teachers who legitimately care about the success of their students as that's rare nowadays I find. I had a lady math teacher who was always running around with sweat on her brow preparing practice papers for us before exams and stuff. My grades went from 60% range to 80% range under her and even got 93 for one of the big exams which was higher than the "nerd" of the class who was going for a scholarship.

@jackhartmann1084

Жыл бұрын

Studied physics in college. Those professors that emphasize difficulty (or simply make it hard) Iearn the most from. In classical mechanics I got 35% on my second quiz and 100% on my third. Getting spanked (metaphorically) sure helped me learn.

I rarely comment on KZread videos, but this might just be one of the best I've ever seen. I would say that it affirms your status as an expert communicator. So well done, thank you for sharing your insight

Typing and sales are two places I relate to with the pattern recognition. When I first learned to type a certain way, I just kept my fingers on the same letters and would think my way through typing the next letter. I’ve noticed over the years that I’ve been typing this way that there’s many words that I type nearly instantaneously. 6 letter words that I type instantly, or 10 letter words that I type in two groups, the first 5, then the next 5 letters. Similar to sales, at first it was chaos for me interacting with many people of many ages and many cultures and many backgrounds, but all in the same industry. Over a number of cold calls I noticed categories of people, some people answer the phone really fast, some people answer the phone very monotone, some are very positive, some are very casual, some very professional. And I started to notice that if I respond to those categories in certain ways, it helps me get closer to converting the person into a client. I noticed categories of objections and categories of roles that influence the client. I don’t think of it so much as becoming an expert as sales, I think of it more as I’m playing a puzzle game book when I’m making sales calls. Every person is like a sudoku puzzle that I’m trying to fill up, the more puzzles I do (people I talk to), the more patterns I notice and the better I become at noticing those patterns and closing those patterns when I encounter them

1.Repeated attempts with feedback - "4:47" 2.Valid Environment - "6:57" 3.Timely feedback - "11:21" 4.Don't get too comfortable - "13:53" Along with the 10,000 hours 😄

@mannnygz

Жыл бұрын

the 10000 isn't necessary, i think thats just the amount of time it seems to take most people to gain a solid understanding of those 4 principles within their field, whether they realize it or not.

@electrofx657

Жыл бұрын

@@mannnygz exactly if these people who succeeds in these 4 things with less time than 10,000 they are called a prodigy or genius

@kshitizsrivastava9429

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man 4th point is very important because whenever I do maths Problem I only do same or simple problems which makes it harder to solve difficult questions. Let's see how much can I improve by doing these steps 😁😁😁

@hassanh7926

Жыл бұрын

@@electrofx657 It might be better to acknowledge that genius is not simply "one who succeeds in attaining these 4 rules early or in less time". There is much more to being a prodigy or genius (whatever we people mean by these terms). For example, apart from these, a person considered among the best in his field has great attitude, passion, creativity, wonder and, arguably the most important of all, persistence.

@electrofx657

Жыл бұрын

@@hassanh7926 hmm

1. Valid Environment 2. Many Repetitions 3. Timely Feedback 4. Deliberate Practice

@majermike

Жыл бұрын

so true! loved this video

@robysings

Жыл бұрын

Thanks saved me watching the vid

@gnarly3000

Жыл бұрын

@@robysings Thank you.

@gtbaba123

Жыл бұрын

Ty

@deepseadarew6012

Жыл бұрын

Timestamps would help here =]

Super insightful, thanks! As a low-time pilot working toward the airlines, I can see all of these concepts in my training so far. We repeat the same exercises often with immediate feedback, in a valid environment, and we keep pushing ourselves out of our comfort zone (without actually risking an accident).

@sooyster4033

10 ай бұрын

I hope to join you soon

this was pretty nice :))) its like we have certain perceptions about certain things and in my case I feel like I know how this will work but watching these videos always opens up a new way of thinking

It would be interesting to have a deep dive video on deliberate practice - what constitutes it, how to engage in it proactively, etc.

@lucapontiggia3123

Жыл бұрын

There is a ted talk on this - search the first 20 hours ted talk. Enjoy :)

@JohnSmith-dr5zn

Жыл бұрын

commenting on this so it's higher in the comments and derek sees it

@3DPrinterAcademy

Жыл бұрын

I second this!

@vectoralphaAI

Жыл бұрын

would love a video about that too.

@SuperBrassBender

Жыл бұрын

great idea

"Don't get too comfortable." That was actually incredibly eye-opening for me. Thank you!

@sebastianjost

Жыл бұрын

There are few things in life that are certain. Many things can change over time. So it is important to keep challenging what you think you know and check that it is still valid.

@fuckdefucker

Жыл бұрын

You should check the "Yes Theory" channel where everything is about seeking discomfort :)

This is one of the most useful videos I've watched so far. Thank you so much. Let's keep becoming experts at something. 💪🧠

This explains alot in an elegant way. I've always noticed there can often be huge differences between 'experts' and some of that feels like its explained by this. Some correctly get all 4 factors and become true experts, some get the qualification without getting through all four elements and becomes an 'expert'.

This was incredibly timely and it expounded on a principle I learned only recently. When you practise something and get frustrated, as we all do, that is **not** the time to pause. That chord you can't quite play, the card trick you can't quite nail - keep at it for five more minutes and tell yourself this deliberately. I think this is also what the fourth point in the video is about, because in those 'five more minutes', you are at the bleeding edge of your skill and that is precisely when you grow.

@tinchozz4750

Жыл бұрын

this would make sense if you wanted to stop because you were tired or your hands hurt, but doing something frustrated leads us to be stubborn and use patterns we already know, so you don't really learn. it has happened a lot to me, you try to do something and get frustrated bc you can't do it, just to do it super easily the next day while having fresh mind

@SkullCollectorD5

Жыл бұрын

@@tinchozz4750 I believe the key word is 'deliberate'. When you get frustrated, recognise it. To recognise a feeling is to disrupt its dysfunctional effects on cognition enough to deal with it deliberately. This is an aspect from the ABC model of cognitive behavioural therapy. There is no feeling without a preceding thought. If I'm transferring what I've learned from this video, the above and the principle I mentioned correctly, it may be that the feeling of frustration is the result of resistance before new neural connections form. I've personally had great success with the method, as long as I don't overdo those five minutes into more and more attempts. ETA: "I'm getting frustrated. I realise this is because I'm at the edge of my skill. I will take a breath and continue for five minutes to hone that edge." - could be a chain of thoughts I may have in the process. The exact words are different for everybody, the key is to think and not just feel.

@pugdad2555

Жыл бұрын

​@@SkullCollectorD5 It is all relative tho. Just like you stated "You stop and take a breath" but how long is that breath and how much do you breath? You can say that you stopping to take a breath for 1 min and then going back is relative to someone taking a breath for the rest of the day and then getting back at it the next day. It is all relative and once we box ourselves in by saying "this is the only way" then we have a problem.

@3nertia

Жыл бұрын

@@SkullCollectorD5 It's also a good time to reassess technique as you're not *abandoning* the practice but you get a chance to slow down and think more clearly - I've had good experiences using the technique you mentioned in conjunction with my own!

@battles151

Жыл бұрын

As with everything in life, mind, body, and soul. Flashcards, weights, and prayer

As a graduate student, this hits home pretty hard. We spend countless hours on a project, only to get feedback once when a final paper is submitted for peer review. The feedback is neither timely nor frequent. And yet, you get to claim to be an expert in your field by the time your graduate.

@user-yy3ki9rl6i

Жыл бұрын

this is why most companies steers away from degree based hiring. they know that a degree won't prove that you smart. project and experience based hiring is getting more and more common because you can assess the skill level and the ability to learn based on the project complexity, error/mistake rates and time spent working. Don't be discouraged my friend, its simply how the system works - its not perfect, so you shouldn't base your entire value on it. Good luck on your journey!

@randomuser5237

Жыл бұрын

@@user-yy3ki9rl6i I think the video made it pretty clear that most hiring "experts" in companies are anything but "experts", so that makes your point moot. And many companies still very much rely on degrees at least to screen out the number of possible candidates.

@fraktaalimuoto

Жыл бұрын

But you can get active feedback from your collaborators and supervisor? As a PhD student and beyond I have always tried to ask feedback from my collaborators and peers who I can trust. No need to wait for a referee to respond.

@cecesoclean4591

Жыл бұрын

lmao what are you talking about “companies steering away from degree based hiring”?? nah man they really aren’t

@EarthWingedDragon

Жыл бұрын

@@randomuser5237 Well, considering The United States of America is full of fake university offering fake degree, I don't think it applies there.

A lot of thanks for making and sharing your video!!

How excellent is that content, precise, concise and fun to watch. Great job and thank you !

13:25 "I was rejected twice, so it's conforting to know they aren't great predictors of future success" *low-key flexing chad*

I've seen this in competitive games too. If player 1 plays for 100 hours and player 2 plays for 50 hours then watches replays of all his games to find mistakes, player 2 will be stronger. Deliberate practice is often the missing piece. It's the difference between playing for fun and playing to win.

@generalharness8266

Жыл бұрын

I personally find if I am not winning its not fun but at the same if its to easy and there is no challenge its also not fun.

@clairruckman7674

Жыл бұрын

First, person uses brute forced trial and error as the later uses a more intelligent learning approach, but imo they'll end up in the same place. I'm top 1% Mass Effect 3, Dead by Daylight Iridescent 2, and back when I was young people would stop when I was at the arcade to watch me play, which I hated! Marvel Vs Capcom one quarter finish the entire game type good. Mortal Kombat not as good with as Marvel vs Capcom, but still could easily beat the game and nearly every person I'd ever played against. Only person who occasionally gave me a run for my money my cousin. All other family members and friends refused to play me:/ Now I'm old and wrists prevent me from being any good:/ My son in his prime gaming and even I've knock him and his friends socks off still to this day. Hard carry them even in games I don't even play. For Honor when it came out my son watched my very first time. He gave me a very quick how to. Perfect round, because frankly most video games all play pretty much the same. I.E. Go from COD to Battlefield to Overwatch and you should at least be mid leader board first few rounds.

@josephguzman4737

Жыл бұрын

Just like being a musician or a weekend warrior

@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal

Жыл бұрын

I feel like taking a step back and really taking a look at what you're doing is a very understated yet extremely important part of improving Its so easy to get into the mindset of "Oh if i just do it more ill get better" but it doesnt always work like that, sometimes taking a step back and seeing exactly where it is that you're making mistakes can speed up the improvement process by leaps and bounds

@BigBootyBatman

Жыл бұрын

@@clairruckman7674 ah yes, another specimen of the "God Gamer" breed. We get rarer and rarer these days...

I am not lying when I say this might be my favorite video on KZread. Please keep this channel alive.

100% motivating, inspirationnal and most of all these are ways to think that we don''t usually hear about. Don't know if I was clear but thx !

When I was a teenager I trained myself to pronounce words in reverse. Absolutely useless skill but it was fun. I could reverse any word of any length just instantaneously. I didn't have to process it letter by letter, I just knew the result instantly, it was just popping out in my mind. But if you asked me to reverse a random set of letters instead of valid word I would fail. It worked only for real words.

@stephen3164

Жыл бұрын

I trained myself as a kid to read text upside down (simply turning the page around). I was able to read with the same speed, aloud or not, no matter which way the text was facing. I wish I could say I’ve found a use for this skill, but perhaps I use it all the time without realizing. (I haven’t actively done this in a while.) Closer in relation to your reverse reading skill, learned word by word, I type on a keyboard primarily with 3 fingers on each hand. Each word is a different pattern, and I can type quite fast, especially with words I type frequently, even if they are long words. On the flip* side, if I have to type a word that I easily know how to spell but rarely type, or a word that I’ve never typed, my typing speed drops a lot. I once typed a science paper that my wife had hand written. I didn’t know many of the words, and though I didn’t really need to look at the keyboard, my typing speed on these words was downright lethargic.

@Yiran

Жыл бұрын

how about the word "instantaneously"?

@eugeniabarsukova

Жыл бұрын

I did the same thing, but I realised I reversed the pronunciation and not the spelling, so, say, "Pete" would be "teep" rather than "etep".

@trollar8810

Жыл бұрын

@@Yiran Instant takes me no time at all, but then the aneously takes quite a bit "Instantaneously" takes me about 2 seconds and a half to type, while i usually do so at ~90wpm

@DanielXavierDosReis

Жыл бұрын

You still do it ? Can you record a video about it ?

In my freshman year of highschool, my math teacher gave us a challenge where the student who could remember the most digits of PI on PI-day (March 14th) would get a few points added to their lowest test score. This gave us like 4 days or something to try to remember. I won with 100 digits. Nobody else really cared that much so the most anyone else got was like 10 digits. Yes I am as much of a loser now as I was back then.

@SergioCruz7811

Жыл бұрын

not a loser

@dewiz9596

Жыл бұрын

Pi day only occurs in the US

@gslidevideotester8592

Жыл бұрын

>I won with 100 digits. Nobody else really cared that much so the most anyone else got was like 10 digits. >Yes I am as much of a loser now as I was back then. so you are an overwhelming winner now then?

@alansteyrbach6926

Жыл бұрын

@@gslidevideotester8592 saying that he is loser, he points out his desperation in a typically occuring pathetic situation. He was so desperate to get at least some points that he put overwhelming amount of effort to get insignificant improvement. It is like selling a car for $20, bc he missed a chance to sell it for $20k, and now he tries to get at least something but zero.

@baruk9706

Жыл бұрын

As long as you’re having fun and happy

The ammount of depth he goes into hits the sweet spot to get everyone an insightful idea about "how to become an expert"

For people interested in this phenomenon, there is a book titled "Thinking Fast and Slow" which elaborates on the 2 mentioned systems in your brain. It is a very informative and deep diving book on the mechanics of these 2 systems and their cooperation with eachother.

100% this is how I was trained to be a ballet dancer and I didn't even recognize it. We do the same movements in slightly varying patterns every single day in a structured class, and for actual repertoire we repeat the EXACT same movements over and over, with a teacher or coach telling you what to improve after each attempt. As you get stronger, you do more and more challenging combinations of movement with increased complexity and strength requirements, and you spend more time reviewing and conditioning on your own time. Eventually you get really good at learning and doing choreography in certain styles/from certain choreographers because you start to recognize the patterns of movement they tend to employ.

@entelektuel.yolculuk

Жыл бұрын

@xio kousa are ye a ballet teacher? If so, can I ask ye sth: are the moves and choreographies of men and women the same in ballet? We do have playlists of dance lessons in the channel of Maria Khreva and North Pacific Ballet channel, but I dunno if I should learn and apply those as a male? Because what I see is there are women learning there.... Thanx .... Best.. .

@thenamelessdragonfish

Жыл бұрын

Same for learning piano.

@sketchAsketch

Жыл бұрын

@@entelektuel.yolculuk I would say if you’re trying to learn ballet, get lessons at a studio.

@sketchAsketch

Жыл бұрын

@@entelektuel.yolculuk take that with a grain of salt though, because I’m far from a teacher, it’s only my second year on pointe.

@whatabouttheearth

Жыл бұрын

Same with guitar, you start with basic chords and scales and than over time overlap them with slightly more complicated things. Think about how all the universe began with Hydrogen, and that formed Helium and on and on to more extreme complexity (sort of). Or how we learned a language when we were infants, one of the most complex things alot of people ever learn and they learned it as an infant. The entire complexity of the universe is small basic things stack upon other small basic things to gain what in evolutionary biology is called 'emergent properties', new functions that can only be gained through the development of a system of multiple individual components that were not capable of those functions with the individual components alone.

As a mathematician, these four factors definitely resonated with me and I think math is field that really encourages that deliberate practice. Great video!

@12345swordmaster

Жыл бұрын

I'm a University undergrad in STEM, math is definitely a deliberate practice to learn it well, I found out the hard way that just memorizing patterns and formulas wasn't good enough. I always wondered how TA and professors got so good at math they were able to teach others, some of the TA tutors (Grad students that tutor undergrads) actually forgot some of the formulas for calculus (there are so many lol) but as soon as we would refresh them on the formula they were able to instantly crack on, and finished the examples effortlessly. Memorization of formulas is only a very small percentage of high performance in mathematics, its all about repetition, and putting yourself against hard problems that take an uncomfortable amount of thinking and time to solve.

@minemasterSAM

Жыл бұрын

Math is my favorite subject (along with physics). If you one day revisit this comment, would you share with us what it’s like to work in your field and some tips on getting there?

@itzakehrenberg3449

Жыл бұрын

Dr. B, As a fellow mathematician I have to say that I love your channel!

@ananthd4797

Жыл бұрын

@@12345swordmaster It's actually kind of like chess. Imagine old math problems to be previous chess games. Everyone knows the rules, but experienced players can see a lot more patterns and tendencies when they encounter a problem.

@12345swordmaster

Жыл бұрын

@@ananthd4797 yes but you have to practice

Seen it a while back: still great! Thanks.

Very helpful. I find outside feedback is very important. Playing a game and winning or losing is feedback, sure, but it can be a very slow process to actually learn what you're doing wrong. For instance, I was playing an online FPS with some friends over the pandemic and I definitely improved but even when I was playing every day I never got great at the game... only passable. It's frustrating to not know what you need to do to improve

"excellence is not an art, it's pure habit. We are what we repeatedly do" 20 points to whoever recognises the quote

@NotOrg7

10 ай бұрын

Who's quote is it?

@Fabian-fd7go

10 ай бұрын

Aristotle

@shaggyfeng9110

10 ай бұрын

Art is some elite group of people's habit. Don't you get it now?

@lizanna6390

10 ай бұрын

​@@Fabian-fd7go thanks. I know the quote but trying to remember who said it was gonna drive me mad

@viraloutbreaks99

9 ай бұрын

I don't know but I use this one all the time..... "You are what you do. Not what you say you'll do." -Carl Yung

"People we think of as experts, but actually aren't." This is such a big piece of the puzzle that is the modern world. Thank you!

@AkamiChannel

Жыл бұрын

Amen!

@ooc6921

Жыл бұрын

Like who

@Deuk

Жыл бұрын

@@ooc6921 journalist, columnists, dietary guru's etc.

@bobbyd9319

Жыл бұрын

Look at the so called experts during covid, either lied to us, or didn’t know their head from a hole in the ground.

@philippe-lebel

Жыл бұрын

@@Deuk If their aim is to earn money and have social status without kwoning so much they are expert ;)

My fav youtube channel everrr as an engineering student!! keep up the great work.

This is such a great and inspiring video! THank you so much for posting it

Something else that goes along with the route to becoming an expert are the 4 stages of learning. 1. Unconscious Incompetence, you're bad but aren't aware of exactly how bad you are because you know very little of the skill or subject you're practicing. 2. Conscious Incompetence, you have a better grasp on the subject knowledge and its depths after putting in a good amount of time and practice but you're not quite good at it yet. 3. Conscious Competence, you've put in enough time and effort with enough feedback that you're now good at what you're doing but it's a conscious effort and you'll screw up if you aren't concentrating enough. 4. Unconscious Competence, you've practiced long enough and put in so much time and effort that you can perform the skill or talk about the subject as easy as walking, you may dip into Conscious Competence if you encounter an infrequent occurrence in your skill or subject but you've got what it takes to get through it 👍

@d1ab

Жыл бұрын

never thought a combination of two words could convey such an important concept, thanks!

@NishantSharma-tr6xl

Жыл бұрын

No.3 is what currently i am experiencing in day trading

@kb.e3762

Жыл бұрын

Unconscious Competence can be a weakness too unless you are working in a factory line

@Shankar-Bhaskar

Жыл бұрын

@@NishantSharma-tr6xl Yeah right!!

@Carolynnhardwicke

Жыл бұрын

@@kb.e3762 it makes for a lousy teacher. I try to identify areas in which I am unconsciously competent so I can break down my understanding

#4: Don't be comfortable. This instantly reminded me of H Day in Sweden, the day when everyone switched driving from the left to the right side of the roadways. Many people were certain that it would cause untold deaths and many more accidents. In fact, for many years afterward, accident rates plummeted. The assumption is that people were suddenly paying much closer attention to how they drive. Having driven on the opposite side of the road in another country, I'm sure that it also made driving fairly stressful, but that seems like a fair price to pay for fewer injuries and deaths caused by lazy, comfortable driving habits. #4 is a great, general lesson. The whole event is rather fascinating. If you're curious to learn more about it, there's a great, short episode by the podcast "99% Invisible" that's worth checking out. It's episode 215, titled "H-Day."

@theicethief4804

Жыл бұрын

Don't be too comfortable. It is important that you sacrifice some of your comfortably to advance in New subjects or the tasks you are doing, if you are always uncomfortable with what you are doing you are either going to leave the hobby or find it too hard to continue. It is wise if you make yourself comfortable after working hard but never get too lazy

@howiestillgamez5326

Жыл бұрын

they should switch sides of the road once a year!

@JoaoPedroPT696

Жыл бұрын

One Englishman once said when he was the driving in my country (which is right-hand traffic) that the more complicated stuff were the roundabouts, but that you "just go with the flow". I remember that story in Sweden.

@0topon

Жыл бұрын

Only for the next 2 years was the accident rate below the levels before the change

@hydra5758

Жыл бұрын

@@howiestillgamez5326 No no no, it has to be once every 10 years so everyone stays on their toes and keep having to relearn both.

This is phenomenal. What you've said in this article, could be enough and quality material for a nature reviews paper. Excellent!

I find it fascinating how everything in this video is very closely connected to how reinforcement learning and machine learning algorithms work. A model of the environment within which an agent can perform actions, learning the optimal policy with value/policy iteration, an immediate reward after taking an action, and exploration vs exploitation. Amazing!

@ampac

Жыл бұрын

The strategies used in RL and other ML approaches are mostly derived from mathematical frameworks, such as stochastic control methods, which are designed to tackle optimisation problems. These frameworks have been around at least since the 1950s. The studies from cognitive psychology we have today on how our brain tackles similar problems are not as revolutionary as they sound despite all the fancy new terminology.

@masonp5

Жыл бұрын

@@ampac Check out neuromorphic computing, it uses ideas verrrry similar to the ones in this video

@YSFmemories

Жыл бұрын

AI neural networks are literally modelled after human ones, no? Shouldn't be surprising

@kyleharwell5299

Жыл бұрын

That is a great observation, and not an accident! One of Ericsson's mentors was Herbert Simon, one of the earliest scientists to seriously study artificial intelligence. It was their work on decision making, and later expert memory, that inspired the deliberate practice and expert performance research.

@cagedgandalf3472

Жыл бұрын

I mean that *is* the goal of RL, mimicking human learning.

Great content and thought provoking. I'm a radiologist with almost 20 years of experience in breast imaging. I'd like to indicate that our task in breast cancer diagnosis is not to actually determine if a finding is malignant or not. Rather, to look for features that are concerning for cancer, In which case we would do a biopsy. As we try to err on the side of caution, the usaual statistic quoted is that 70% of the biopsies are actually cancers. Therefore, this apparent "low" rate of accuracy is not a reflection of poor performance, nor is it related to a lack of feedback. In actuality each case we biopsy is followed by an accurate pathology report within days. Radiologists are involved in multidisciplenary rounds with our clinical colleagues and we also have internal quality assurance measures to ensure a high level of competence.

@NicolaiCzempin

Жыл бұрын

My guess is that the original findings about performance of recent graduates vs long-time practitioners were over-simplified, much like the "10,000 hours rule" was.

@chinemeremohaeri9100

Жыл бұрын

Tom Nicholas actually got on Veritasium back for misinformation used only to further his narrative. I was expecting something like this, so I'm not really shocked.

@JK7H

Жыл бұрын

He wasn't referring to poor performance or lack of feedback, but how fast the feedback is received.

@BluefanNL

Жыл бұрын

So you're saying that where a computer would generate accurate result but have false positives and false negatives you err on the side of caution which results in more false positives but less false negatives as false positives are much less impactful? (superfluous biopsy vs missed cancer). Would interesting to have radiologist give their best estimate without being on the cautios side, but I don't know if the study tried this or even if that would work.

@coin5207

Жыл бұрын

@@NicolaiCzempin but it makes sense in the context he provided which was diagnosing rare illnesses. For young graduates the many edge cases they learned in university are still relatively fresh in their minds

I love this channel!!! Always super insightful and interesting, thank you!

As a trained physicist this was really interesting. I have not the best memory recall, some guys know the answer to a problem they did years ago, but I always have a „gut feeling“ how the equations will emerge and I can see a strong pattern in equations, even looking at it for a small amount of time is often enough to restructure the stuff in my head - even when not perfect, it’s a good cope for a usually bad memory recall

@kareandersson

Жыл бұрын

He forgot the most important factor - genetics.

@UncleKennysPlace

Жыл бұрын

@@kareandersson Not the most important, in my view.

@rigira

Жыл бұрын

@@kareandersson in terms of improving, u shouldn't even focus on that because u can't change it lol

@nihinkcmxhfwnhi

Жыл бұрын

I'm just going to hit a like for that username lmao

@riskyraccoon

Жыл бұрын

at first I read, "As a tamed physicist this was really interesting" and now I'm worried that no physicist will ever be tamed

That was one of the best intros I've ever seen in a video. It took 5 minutes to get to the point of the video, but the 5 minutes were so interesting that I didn't even realize they'd passed at all. And they set the rest of the video up so well. Excellent job.

@Robert-iu2ou

Жыл бұрын

This comment resonated when i realized i was already 12 minutes into the video

@llamagaming8998

Жыл бұрын

This is one of the best techniques to make an infotainmwnt video, I call it the johnny harris technique. Where u start with examples, examples examples n the the explanation...Instead of doing the opposite which is the norm

@BB-zq6hy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah veratasium is an expert at creating entertaining information... by using the very things discussed in this video most likely! Haha! His short part about youtube's feedback has probably helped him realize the patterns of a video people stay engaged with

@GamesForNoobs

Жыл бұрын

Most of his vids are like that

This is such an informative and acknowledgeable channel.

The most important video of this channel so far and one of the most important videos on YT for sure! Thank you!

After having read Moonwalking with Einstein, Fooled by Randomness, Sapiens and Thinking fast and slow. This really felt like a condensed version of parts of each book combined. Very good video, cheers !

@LukePuplett

Жыл бұрын

Allow me to add Grit by Angela Duckworth. The book focuses on the Deliberate Practice aspect. My criticism of books and videos on success or productivity, as well as schools in general, is that they fail to discuss the relationship between acquiring expertise and making money. The system we live under was designed to reward the people who control the means of production. You can become an expert, but if someone else employs you, it's unlikely you'll ever earn a great deal and you may feel after 10,000 hours of toil that you've been sold a lie. The are exceptions of course, but in general, experts are paid their average market rate which is usually a fraction of what shareholders make. This explains why wealthy business owners are so often non-experts. I don't mean Elon Musk, but the many millionaires that run small businesses around the world. Often they understood the game when young, perhaps because a family member was a capitalist, and they realised that they can skip school and just buy-in and coordinate hard working experts. In my personal life, the smartest and deepest thinking people I know are far from the wealthiest. Sometimes it feels like an inverse correlation. My wealthiest friends aren't particularly bright and don't read, but they do all run businesses where they hire smart people to do the actual work, or use leverage to buy property and rent seek. If they have become experts, then their skills are working the system to their advantage and convincing people they have the expertise that actually their employees have. This may seem cynical, but it is my lived experience and my observation, and these friends are open and proud about their money making skills. To be financially successful, being an expert is not enough. You must also have something to trade, own the means of production, and decide your own wages, which may include owning the means of producing KZread content. In other words, you must become an expert in making and keeping money.

@XPPrivate

Жыл бұрын

@@LukePuplett To become an expert in anything you have to focus on a skill. As you become better at something the niche that can appreciate your skill becomes smaller and smaller. Therefore your reach will become smaller and smaller the better you get and that is normal. I don't see that as a problem at all, because money should be directly correlated to RISK. An expert making an mistake will only affect an small number of people. A business owner making a mistake will impact maybe millions of people. Its because the difference in risk that there is a difference in compensation.

@LukePuplett

Жыл бұрын

​@@XPPrivate There are a faults in this analysis. - As you become better at something, your reach may become very broad. For example, you may become a leader in coronavirus research. - A coronavirus expert making a mistake could cause a pandemic. - How much do firefighters, miners, or Bangladeshi's dismantling ships, make? - How much does Derek make from KZread and what's the impact when he messes up? - What if author JK Rowling's next book is bad? - If you rank the world's wealthiest people by net worth and then by risk/impact of their actions, does the order change much? - If you have an idea and start a business and get investors, you can pay yourself a salary and hire experts. This is common with non-technical tech company start-ups. If it fails, you have two options a) try again, in which case you're more investable because you have experience of what not to do b) get a well paid job. There's no risk here. But consider that the average business is small and in your local town. The owner's mistake might temporarily impact a dozen employees and several hundred customers, and yet they will drive the Bentley, own a couple of Patek Phillip watches and live in a big house, because they realised what I described above and went about making it happen. The risk argument simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Neither being an expert nor risk accounts for wealth. Owning the means of production, whether you have a team of people making desks, or fixing people's teeth, or own your own written words (even if you got an expert ghost writer to write them), is the key. Here's a final one: look up how much song writers get paid, vs. the people that sing them, and the shareholders of the record company. What's the pattern? The shareholders get most of the money, the expert songwriter gets $52,000 a year, on average, across all the songs they write. Teaching kids how to become an expert without teaching them who actually earns the lion's share of the money their expertise generates under our capitalist system, is a disservice. Some people discover this at work. They look around, they see how the business operates, they think, why am I earning x when I could run a business like this and pay myself y. And they start their own thing. They realise the game, and they realise it has nothing to do with expertise.

@cautarepvp2079

Жыл бұрын

@@LukePuplett damn such a good comment. But its not that simple, it takes soo much time to be great at something

@LukePuplett

Жыл бұрын

@@cautarepvp2079 It does take time, but it's time that must be lived anyway. My point isn't that one should not become great at something, but that one should enter into the journey understanding the system and whether other people will be the main beneficiaries of your sacrifice.

The “25 years playing guitar” comment rings true for me. I’ve been playing for 35 years, but I really only actively learned and practiced for the first 5-6 years. Joining a band and learning 30 new songs would give me a boost every so often, but mainly my guitar skills are at a certain level bc I stopped actively learning how to play new stuff, and instead play songs I’ve been playing for years. I have no desire to get any better and find enjoyment out of how I currently play.

@schneider1896

Жыл бұрын

Guitar can easily be seen as the most competitive object in the world. It's very popular, hard to see more popular. It's sooooo hard to "master"

@trybunt

Жыл бұрын

@@schneider1896 guitar the most competitive object? I find that hard to believe, I can think of so many equally or more competitive- the sword has been around for thousands of years, people mastering it in life and death situations. The spear or bow/arrow have been around even more, people eating or starving based on accuracy. Cars, pens, balls.. I don't think the guitar is the most competitive object

@andretsang7337

Жыл бұрын

I think this is underrated. Becoming a professional is overrated, and just having a good time is also very valid. Not everyone has to be world-class. Just jamming out is a success in and of itself

@EmpressMermaid

Жыл бұрын

@@andretsang7337 You're right, sometimes becoming an expert on something can very quickly sap the joy out of it. I play guitar, too. Have been at it 3 years and I'm absolutely horrible. But that's ok because I love playing.

@drdelewded

Жыл бұрын

Been playing guitar since 1987.. I still suck and have been in 5 performing bands hahaha Once I learned barre chords 30+ years ago I could make songs and stopped "learning" anything else And honestly I dont care to.

The way you used the chessboards and turned them into pixelated faces was such a brilliant analogy and imagery. I had to pause the video and pull out my phone just to leave this comment. Bravo. I liked that so damn much.

@Angus-MacGyver

9 ай бұрын

Did you recognize them? I think they are (from left to right): Charles Darwin, Martin Luther-King, Mahatma Ghandi, Abraham Lincoln.

This is a great video! Thank you for making it. It's interesting to see what it takes to become an expert.

I think without love and obsession for what you do, those steps can feel unbearable. If you love what you do deeply and are obsessed with it... being uncomfortable is not even that bad. It's like Kobe Bryant tearing his achilles, shooting free throws and walking off the court.. He said that when the game is the most important, you don't even feel the pain. I'm sure he's been in pain and uncomfortable a whole lot in his career but he LOVED the game of basketball too much to even care about the discomfort. He was obsessed.

@user-sc8ph2ds2m

Жыл бұрын

@lim sowq Just common knowledge bruh

@cherianafreen7528

Жыл бұрын

क्या आप अधिक विस्तार से उत्तर दे सकते हैं?

@jonjeskie5234

Жыл бұрын

Yea "passion" is the immeasurable quality that can actually override *everything* else.

@mikeshinwa3398

Жыл бұрын

It’s incredible how something which sounds idealistic (such as parents telling their kids to pursue a career ‘they are passionate about’) can ultimately be the one thing that enables us to willingly go through these steps.

@en2336

Жыл бұрын

What do you do when depression makes it so that you're passionate about anything? :(

Interesting how almost everything he describes as needed to build an expert is what is required to train a neural network via a reinforcement learning method.

@joel9002

Жыл бұрын

becous both are learning my friend ))

@panoshanos1

Жыл бұрын

as if neural networks are modeled after the brain almost...

@vikramc7977

Жыл бұрын

@@panoshanos1 neural networks are modelled after the brain only semantically. Mathematically, they have no correlation with the actual workings of the brain. Moreover, OPs main focus was on Reinforcement Learning techniques, and not on Neural Networks, and it is true that Reinforcement Learning techniques were created to be similar to real learning, with the models receiving the appropriate rewards/penalties, and these rewards also having greater values with the immediacy of finding them.

@MarcillaSmith

Жыл бұрын

And the award in the category of "Um, Well, Actually" goes to...

@danielribastandeitnik9550

Жыл бұрын

@@vikramc7977 thanks, that was my point.

Very good video. I can relate alot to what was said and use it in my rehearsal work. Thanks

Famous quote: "To the beginner there are many possibilities. To the master there are few." Mastery cuts out the ways of doing things that aren't as good. This sharpens their ability but also ossifies their mind against new ideas. Re: the chess board replication. Practical or random the beginner was doing the same task, but the master's ability to use familiar patterns to compress information suffered in the random layout. The new guy on the shop thinks there are many ways to improve the business, even though those ideas are mostly wrong. The boss thinks there are no other ways and is almost certainly wrong. As for practice, it helps to "push yourself" but not burn yourself out. If the math problem or guitar lick is too hard you don't take anything from it. Your abilities are a rubber envelope. You want to stretch it with tension but not tear it with force. Drummers for example play a rhythm slowly for 100% accuracy and then ramp up the tempo until they start to come unglued and then relax the tempo again before too many errors happen. The most amazing and intimidating thing about expertise is not that people do things you could never do but realizing that they are things you might be able to given the input and that they themselves were like you are now when they started.

@lepsycho3691

Жыл бұрын

Who said that?

@himan12345678

Жыл бұрын

@@lepsycho3691 they should say proverb/saying, and not quote. That's like calling the proverb, "Jack of all trades; master of none...better than a master of one" a famous quote.

@JohnnyArtPavlou

Жыл бұрын

Very nice.

@Jinryuushi

Жыл бұрын

Amen!

@lerafa

Жыл бұрын

as a drummer, I agree

'And we see patterns everywhere, including in randomness'. This topic was covered in Cosmos : A space time Odyssey. I loved it when he says and I loved it when you said it too. Its is just so true. We strive to find patterns in everything and fail to do so many times.

@MichaelSteeves

Жыл бұрын

I have hearing loss and in common with many others in that situation, my brain tries to find patterns in random noise. It is common to think there is a radio playing in the distance because your brain is desperately trying to find patterns where they don't exist.

@TheXuism

Жыл бұрын

The definition of real randomness is there is no pattern at all.

@garethbaus5471

Жыл бұрын

@@TheXuism not exactly, truly random things can have plenty of apparent patterns within them there just anything consistently creating the pattern.

@guysumpthin2974

Жыл бұрын

But wisdom trumps knowledge & experience, yet together you get REAL experts . Without wisdom the results are usually poor to average, no matter how much experience/ training/ diploma/ certs

@kotavenkatabharghav7222

Жыл бұрын

astrology summed up. people try to see patterns in things and are swayed by confirmational bias

That's a amazing content you have shared. I m glad that I came across your video.

Great video topic/explanation. I'm especially curious to see insider metrics from KZread creators. _Big youtubers like yourself know the business that us long time viewers would spend an incredible number of watch hours to discover..._

"We see patterns if everywhere, including where there is no pattern" - sounds a lot like the overfitting problem of a neural network! Great video as always Derek!

@Nevir202

Жыл бұрын

Ya, exactly. Human brains are made to recognize patters and difference, so we'll see both, even where they don't exist.

@charlietian4023

Жыл бұрын

Good connection

@ania5038

Жыл бұрын

"There are no regularities to be learned" is such a nice phrase lol

@reverse_engineered

Жыл бұрын

It's not overfitting if you consider the loss function. If we see something moving in the shadows and we aren't sure if it's a threat or not, should we give each equal weight? No, because the risks are different. If we think it's dangerous and react as such when it isn't, our risk is little more than embarrassment, having to take an alternate path, or possibly missing out on an opportunity. But if it is dangerous and we react as if it's not, then we could face incredible losses including death. This may not be as relevant in our modern world, but evolving in the wild where predators and competitors are numerous, it is favorable to err on the side of caution because the cost of a false negative is much worse than the cost of a false positive. The same is true in policing, medical testing, inspecting bridges, and many other areas. When the cost of a false negative is very large, and when the cost of a false positive is relatively small, you lean towards more false positives and fewer false negatives.

@anindyasundarmanna6683

Жыл бұрын

​@@reverse_engineered While what you are saying makes perfect sense, there is a fundamental flaw to your assumption. The whole premise here is, (read again) - finding pattern where there is NO pattern. Not that there can be a pattern. Which is exactly what overfitting is. And that was merely the point of the comment. Your argument, while perfectly logical otherwise, misses the point.

"At its core, expertise is about recognition." That is simply beautiful.

i love this because its a broad skill it is adaptive i love videos like these we often make videos where we overlook concepts too much we forget main components just learning a new broad concept its very fun thinking of how much we have to learn sometimes we are just lost too deep in what we do its like looking down a sky scraper knowing how much we have

Can I just say that I'm such a huge fan of your videos, have learned so much from them :) Keep them up 🔥🔥🔥

I use to be a hockey goaltender, the pattern recognition part of the game never crossed my mind until now. I remember when the play was developing in the corner of the ice on my end and being able to keep track of everyone else on the ice seemed impossible when I was younger, but after time it got easier and easier and it seems like this pattern recognition of being able to quickly glance over and notice the patterns on the ice allowing me to gather info much quicker than looking over 3 or 4 times. It was a hugely important skill as a goaltender and watching this video just kind of made me chuckle about it.

@umi66

Жыл бұрын

I really like this comment, thanks for the anecdote

@Mattz554

Жыл бұрын

High quality content, your comment! And I'm the second saying this, woah!

@NONO-hz4vo

Жыл бұрын

This is why sometimes it is more difficult to play against a bad player. They just aren't in the right spots they are supposed to be in. Of course once you learn they are trash it is easier but initially they can get some lucky points.

@mrbrazina3128

Жыл бұрын

@@NONO-hz4vo do you think this could be why they call it "beginner's luck"

@tylerstaresinic2354

Жыл бұрын

As an other goalie the big one that I can think of is reacting to shots. I used to be able to tell where the shot was going before the puck was actually released. And the time for me to react to a shot included the wind up time. And I hated it when it was a knucklepuck or they fanned on it because it totally threw me off. That’s why my advice to forwards is always to get a quick release because it removes my time to process/predict the shot.

I LOVE how Derek just absolutely destroyed film school experts in the smoothest way possible.

@zaeemAtif

Жыл бұрын

That was a burn 😆

@littlefrank90

Жыл бұрын

I feel like this whole video and research was an excuse to smite the people who decided not to accept him into film school.

@powerplayer75

Жыл бұрын

@@littlefrank90 "ive been wanting to make a video on experts for a long time"

@venky193

Жыл бұрын

AND... I always appreciate such 'well placed' comments, where ever the're needed.

@FrostDirt

Жыл бұрын

@@littlefrank90 sounds familiar, except I am talking about a certain painter...

Came to this late, but I have just retired as a management consultant in Information Risk Management and Security. I considered myself an expert after 35-50 years (I started in IT, moved to IT audit and then consultancy - all related environments), and I'm gratified to see that I meet all the criteria mentioned here. I worked with hundreds of companies (who gave pretty direct feedback!) in all different industries, but they all have information governance requirements in common. I was always looking for new challenges and learning new skills.

and I want to thank you for creating and posting!

Derek, this video and narration gave me a lot of courage and motivation to continue my learning of computer science. I’ve been practicing some of the same problems, just to master them. But anytime I try something new, even if it involves some of the same steps, I’m lost. This helped me break down some of the necessary steps I need to take to understand more about computer science and programming. As always, thanks for the amazing video! Wonderful production recently.

@andrewlalis

Жыл бұрын

Go get it man. There's a lot to learn, but you've got the right attitude.

@amdreallyfast

Жыл бұрын

In my experience in software engineering, half the learning is often just figuring out the shorthand, lingo, and abstractions of whomever I'm trying to learn from. It's difficult, but doable :)

@iWatchYoutube2601

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words and inspiration Andrew and John. I’ve just been practicing Python the last few weeks. I go back to school in a few weeks though taking comp. Sci classes for the first time. I just switched over from a history major. It’s been super interesting and very rewarding getting into Python and comp. Sci as a whole

@Djellowman

Жыл бұрын

So brave

@krishp1104

Жыл бұрын

Like John said, coding is 90% figuring out how to apply what you already know in your current scenario

To steal from my high school teacher, "practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect." This also seems to be an apt checklist for composing a well performing machine learning agent (or at least are 4 very relevant circumstances to consider). Interesting as always, thank you!

@haroldmesina5623

Жыл бұрын

"Vince Lombardi"

@mcmerry2846

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, imagine making 1000 repetitions and make them all bad.

@zyoface

Жыл бұрын

@esrever gnireenigne Have you never slowed an activity down, or broken it up into smaller pieces to ensure you're getting it right? I think there are many ways to practice perfectly without being able to perform perfectly. I also think that performing perfectly once is no reason to expect the same will be achieved the next time. For me the quote succinctly captures a lot of the insight Derrick shared in this video, suggesting you can't simply participate for a set time and expect excellence.

@diesertyp7822

Жыл бұрын

What you are describing is much more akin to deliberate practice than perfect practice.

Thank you for your effort to share wisdom for all with this platform ,in an interesting and easy to understand way

Similar to this is the fact that in my tech class, which was basically a more broad shop class, we were told it's the experts who most often fail to follow the safety rules because they gain confidence and lose diligence, whereas if you've just been told you could lose fingers and resonate with that because of your own lack of experience, you'll usually be very careful

@ericfieldman

2 ай бұрын

@punkinhoot maybe he wanted to sacrifice his temporary use of the finger in exchange for a lifelong adherence to safety regulations by the students. Doubt they ever thought, "I don't need to follow this to the letter, I know what I'm doing"

This is why learning a new language is easier when you have someone to converse with. You get that feedback, unlike trying to learn via a book, audio/video programs or even with a language learning software (which gives some level of feedback, but it's pretty limiting.)

@athenalong

Жыл бұрын

THISSSSSSS!!

@gutoguto0873

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

This video is thousand times more helpful than a thousand self-help motivational videos here on KZread,,, thanks 🙏

@AleksandarIvanov69

Жыл бұрын

depends on what you need

@PepsiFuture

Жыл бұрын

Where was the value in this video?

Thank you for that masterful exposition

What makes an expert. Repeatation with feedbacks*. * conditions :valid and reliable environment.

Interesting to think about this in the context of my own field: Computer Science. Especially when writing code, it does illuminate some things for me. I work with a lot of scientist from other fields who mostly write software as a tool for expressing ideas from their respective fields. Most of them have had little to no formal training in writing code before starting to work. What I notice is that these people fairly easy learn how to avoid bugs and write code that executes, but are terrible at preventing structural issues (e.g. does this software scale easily or how easy is it to add new functionality in the future). The timely feedback issue seems crititcal here. When trying to write code that executes, the feedback is almost immediate: The software returns an error on running or it doesn't. The structural problems however aren't evaluated by any immediate system or even at all (especially for people who's main area of expertise is actually not software).

@JustAnotherJarhead

Жыл бұрын

"Most of them have had little to no formal training in writing code before starting to work" = As a non-coder , this is totally impressive to me. I would love to be able to code without formal training. How are they even able to pull this off?

@jaysmythe154

Жыл бұрын

Wait, ...what? X

@webdevelopmentwithjavascri8020

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you.

@MmmhMarky

Жыл бұрын

@@JustAnotherJarhead I am not a professional coder but have coded a few impressive stuffs. I program to how I think like solving a puzzle. It has no structure. For example, I once wanted to search for a product fast. I didn't like the idea of searching a file, one line at a time which is a huge waste of time. Then, I came up with a search that narrows down half at a time, which means that searching through 500,000 and 1,000,000 is just one search apart. (In addition to that, I was programming in assembly language Masm for speed.) Later on, I found it that it was called binary search.

@fd4511

Жыл бұрын

A computer program is a tool. Some tools are only going to be used by scientists to solve a repetitive problem, while other programs will be sold to customers. The structural requirements will be different, of course. While not being a scientist, I can suspect that a scientist wouldn't want to spend an expensive time to build a beautiful code that will not be facing outwards, nor scale up later. If there's a need for such a level of quality, they'd be outsourcing coding anyway, after a prototyping stage. I'd imagine that scientists are concerned with higher level solutions to problems, and proofs of concept, while the engineers actually go more in-depth and anticipate quality control, code security, etc.

I just made an acronym for me to always remember these four criteria. It's PERF (from "performance"), P - (Deliberate) Practice E - (Valid) Environment R - Repetition F - Feedback Great video, as always!

@loturzelrestaurant

Жыл бұрын

May i suggest a Part 2 to this or would that be too random? ?

@starlight_garden

Жыл бұрын

Great! I wish I could give you more than my thumbs up.

@yashjawanjal9733

Жыл бұрын

Perf-romance

@jagatdave

Жыл бұрын

Order matters.....deliberate practice comes after repetitions

@mz00956

Жыл бұрын

Or perf ection

malcom gladwells book the OUTLIER was truly mind opening and he talked about the 10,000 hour rule and what makes someone an expert. every few years ill listen to the audible or read the book again