Why is Vladimir Putin so obsessed with Ukraine?
Guardian correspondent Luke Harding chronicles the key historical events that led to the invasion of Ukraine, from the Euromaidan protests to the annexation of Crimea, and explains why Putin's belief that Russians and Ukrainians are 'one people' is rooted in history from a thousand years ago.
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“Put these seeds in your pocket so at least sunflowers will grow where you lie” just gave me chills
@SimDeck
Жыл бұрын
Yep, that was pretty rough. Brilliant and brutal.
@newyorkcity5851
Жыл бұрын
Granny probably turn into sunflower seeds.... Rest in peace old lady
@Zdraviski
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's the same old woman who gave poisoned soup to ruSSians who thought they were welcome in Ukraine.
@aaronbaker2186
Жыл бұрын
It is great how she is saying "you will die here," in such a subtle way. Watching as what were claimed to be the most elite units of Russia are being absolutely destroyed is honestly kinda cool in a macabre way. The Russian military has been shown to be a paper tiger and the state of Russia is a joke.
@SUPERNOVA0360
Жыл бұрын
@@newyorkcity5851 Old lady?
in 1939, Stalin thought the Finns would welcome a Soviet invasion, especially the Red Finns who had lost the civil war a few years earlier. However, being Finnish was more important and so you had the reds and the whites coming together against a foreign foe as Finns. Very few collaborated and the Soviet losses were devastating. Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.
@lindsman682
Жыл бұрын
I don't see any evidence Stalin thought the Finns would welcome a Soviet invasion, he thought he could roll over a smaller nation, and he was wrong. Ukraine is more culturally similar to Russia, but has yearned for true independence for a millenia. It's also a lot harder to defend than the Finland, but the Ukrainians are clearly motivated to win.
@SerenityMae11
Жыл бұрын
@@lindsman682 you're wrong. It's very well documented Stalin told the troops they would be welcomed with open arms by the Finn's
@sesimono555
Жыл бұрын
@@SerenityMae11 very well documented, don’t say things when you don’t have a source clown
@MrSpritzmeister
Жыл бұрын
After the Finnish civil war it was government policy to distribute land ownership to the reds as well, this meant they had something to lose and therefore something to fight for. Similar thing has happened in Ukraine recently, there is something to fight for and something to lose.
@JoeVideoed
Жыл бұрын
@@MrSpritzmeister I only recently (as in the last decade of my 50+ yrs on this earth) learned about the Finnish civil war. It seemed pretty brutal just like the Russian & American 1s, but there were actual attempts at reconciliation by the winners so it seems.
Great bit of work I live the comparisons you draw which make it so much more simple to understand
As long as his last scene does not include a Nuke, If so it will be everyone's last scene.
Hey Vlad, you should make Russia a province of Mongolia if you want to repeat the history again.
@danutahanyga4834
Жыл бұрын
Moomin Papa of Tove Janson? It's best to ask President Putin what he wants rather than relying on the mindless Western media.
@republica843
Жыл бұрын
@@danutahanyga4834 what he wants and what he gets are two different things. He will go down in history as, Sputin the Brainless.
@Truspio
Жыл бұрын
Essentially Russia is now an heir to the Mongol empire, the civilization values (like no respect for human life, rejection of the concept of definite truth- and khan is accepted to be always lying), the military- looting, raping, bloodthirsty, covardly retreating when outnumbered; the system of power. Kremlin is today's Karakorum. Putin himself looks more like a Mongolian than European.
@32shumble
Жыл бұрын
@@danutahanyga4834 Little putin has told us what he wants in his speeches Ivan.
@arthurdewith7608
Жыл бұрын
That’s were it’s going with land lost along the Black Sea Russia will become more isolated in trade Putin has painted himself into a corner
I Left Ukraine as a 7 year old in 2002 - He is right in the sense that Russia and Ukraine are very intertwined, many of my relatives had moved there from Russia. However, Ukraine was always its own entity and constantly fought for its own freedoms throughout history. My mum had always hated Putin 🤣I didn't really ever fully understand why until 2014 and onwards.
@mariusmihai1292
Жыл бұрын
What is not to hate about Russia and Putin?
@RezzpektMVP
Жыл бұрын
@@mariusmihai1292 if they actually kept their word, they wouldnt be a threat to ukraine or its people. But hes always looking for a fight....
@mariusmihai1292
Жыл бұрын
@@RezzpektMVP who?
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
Жыл бұрын
@@mariusmihai1292 Putin
@noelle3551
Жыл бұрын
@@andreme7326 I am in disbelief at your comment!! Tell you what go read a few history books on Ukraine, maybe go visit also and form an opinion before coming out with such drivel!!
here after the absurd interview of Carlson - Putin, basically Putin reiterated the same ideas. Spent half an hour talking history just as this correspondent explained. Putin is a madman
One man can cause hundreds of thousands of deaths and millions to suffer ever lasting pain and sorrow. We are a strange species.
@bigcat100and2
Жыл бұрын
if there is aliens out there i can think of a couple reasons that they have avoided making contact
@pearls1626
Ай бұрын
Yep look at Palestine 🇵🇸
You can't just occupy a country because your ancestors lived there 2000 years ago
@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609
Жыл бұрын
Are you referring to Israel?
@royalwolf7115
Жыл бұрын
@@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609 Blame that one on the Brits. How about we shift the focus a bit away from the oil fields and more towards the east?
@Ramtin-Blue_rose
Жыл бұрын
Israel sweats nervously !
@carlosandleon
Жыл бұрын
Bro, the soviet union broke apart 30 years ago.
@carlosandleon
Жыл бұрын
You can occupy a country with power.
I'm not a fan of the conservatives but I do applaud Stephen Harper for refusing Putin's handshake and telling him to "get out of Crimea" in 2014, long before it was "fashionable"
@DGE123
Жыл бұрын
Possibly the only positive thing that guy ever did. ironically Harper is himself very authoritarian and uber religious,,maybe he was jealous?
@nonnayerbusiness7704
Жыл бұрын
@@DGE123 How was he uber religious? He was even publically in support of abortion rights. I think you don't know what Harper did or thought, but just slotted him into an "arch-conservative" archetype in your mind.
@Nikephorus
Жыл бұрын
@@nonnayerbusiness7704 Being that Canada is center left even conservatives have to say they are in support of abortion rights if they want to win an election.
@TheRogueEmpire
Жыл бұрын
and now all the conservatives support putin.
@nair.127
Жыл бұрын
@@nonnayerbusiness7704 Harper never openly supported Abortion. He expressed that it is a legally decided subject . One he would not reopen . No federal government (regardless of party idiology) In Canada, has tried to replace the law , struck down by the supreme Court of Canada . They have just left it in the provincial hands . legal ,but up to provinces health care jurisdiction to regulate it .
He is not obsessed. The real question is why NATO, mostly their master US, wanna get near Russia.
@johngawrylash7732
Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about ? NATO won't even let Ukraine become a member. NATO only strengthened the border of the 3 Baltic States after Putin took over Crimea. In fact, how was it that the Russian troops just walzed across the Ukraine border with no resistance ? They have had boots on the ground in eastern Ukraine for years and that area was secured by Russian troops. Putin wants control of the Black Sea, period.
@angelikaskoroszyn8495
Жыл бұрын
It's a funny thing, really. Ukraine couldn't be able to join NATO for two reasons. 1. Germany was heavily dependant on Russian gas and they would oppose the addition. 2. They had border disputes even before the war. So Russia had nothing to fear about creeping NATO forces Let's look at the map now. Two nordic nations got so spooked they decided to join the alliance inspite of decades of neutrality Germany got cut off Russian gas and was forced to become independent Ukraine is slowly resolving the border disputes The support for NATO is all-time high in Russia neighbouring countries. If anything they demand more troops within their borders If Russia was really scared of NATO then why tf they're constantly making it stronger? I think everyone (Russia included) loves the alliance. To answer your question - it's spreading because everyone wants it to spread
@MathyBoonen
2 ай бұрын
A better question would be. Why all neighbours off russia want to join nato so bad?
@MichaelJ44
10 күн бұрын
@@MathyBoonen China, Belarus and Mongolia want to join NATO?
@MathyBoonen
10 күн бұрын
@@MichaelJ44 nope they won´t. Japan does. South korea also. Like most civilised countrys
Three words to summarize the motive: “Warsaw Pact, NATO”, the rest just read your history book, you would understand why he did it. Just read up
@feels6233
Жыл бұрын
You’re embarrassing
@MathyBoonen
2 ай бұрын
Long befor that russia had a history with invading. Does the bolcovics means anything?
@MathyBoonen
2 ай бұрын
And what treath was nato for russia?
@pleasemisguideme345
29 күн бұрын
Why he did it? Because he still is wrong.
To follow Putin's "logic", Ukraine is the parent country. Putin should resign in favor of Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Russia should be handed over to Ukraine, and the capitol should be moved to Kyiv.
@foreigngrounds9776
Жыл бұрын
Putin is a crazy maniac lol he doesn't have logic
@DarkRoomAmbience
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Sounds like Ukraine has more right to Russia than Russia to Ukraine
@frankswarbrick7562
Жыл бұрын
I don't think Ukraine wants responsibility for 140 million Russians.
@rerror3577
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I think that is the better explanation. They say Ukraine is a country without a history, but Russia is the one struggling with a lack of history. The true capital of Russia is in Ukraine, so Russia is incomplete. Ukrainian culture competes with Russian culture. And they don't see themselves as a province that grew out of Ukraine, they view themselves as one of the greatest empires in history.
@tokyo.peking
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkRoomAmbience EXACTLY ! Now you have learn which truth britons teach. BTW You really think guardian do not lie.
I am Ukrainian , seeing first days of war brought all this memories and made me cry . Thank you for coverage
@imaginemetoo
Жыл бұрын
GLORY TO YOUR COUNTRY 🇺🇦💙💛
@qzorn4440
Жыл бұрын
glory to Ukraine. 🌻
@Facebook-sb3eo
Жыл бұрын
Prayers 🙏usa 🇺🇸 stay safe
@markkane8261
Жыл бұрын
Говоришь по русски? Ты выжил обстрел?
@UAGoWSuplexer
Жыл бұрын
@@markkane8261 speak ukrainian? Ukraine owns russia
Well, that's one version of history. The truth is never buried deep.
That's one way to see it.
I guess by Putin’s logic then Italy has a right to take over all of France, Spain, North Africa and England because the Roman Empire owned all of it…
@MrBell-iq3sm
Жыл бұрын
And Germany has right to take Italy, since it beat the Romans, conquered its lands in the follow centuries and Italy was part of the HRE lead by German Emperors.
@moritamikamikara3879
Жыл бұрын
And Greece has the right to take Afghanistan
@denvertopoland3363
Жыл бұрын
Actually all of that was the polish Lithuanian common wealth. Sounds like it should all go to Poland.
@MrBreakingbad
Жыл бұрын
@@moritamikamikara3879 Ottomans: Hold my beer.
@kittyss2371
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Also, with Pootin's logic, then Rusia is also part of Monglia coz Mongols as Most 99% Russia may be descendents of the Khannate.. 😆😆
"At least put these seeds in your pockets so that sunflowers will grow where you lie." That's raw.
So, this actually wasnt about a perceived obssesion or, logically following, reasons for the invasion. There was however, much projection!
The same reason the United States was obsessed with Cuba getting nuclear weapons from the Soviets. Ukraine offered to be a nuclear arsenal on Russia's border. They find it to be unacceptable just like Kennedy found nuclear weapons in Cuba to be unacceptable.
@Kishanth.J
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but Ukraine gave up it’s nuclear weapons in exchange with assurance that it territory would be respected by the West and Russia. Russia went back on it word and the West ignored it’s promise to defend it.
Vladimir Putin is a lunatic . I admire the Ukrainian citizens fighting for their country🙏 .
@Kodakcompactdisc
Жыл бұрын
He’s also an idiot.
@perfectmazda3538
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine fought 13 wars (independence wars) against Tsars Russia and later on Red Army and now Russia again, even tho they never won for the first 12 times, this time with the support of the whole world they will finally achive their dream of complete freedom.
@crissdiamond1907
Жыл бұрын
…and he’s not alone in the russian nation to be a lunatic
@goldenaye3
Жыл бұрын
If Putin is a lunatic, I wonder what you are, takes one to know one.
@donkeynuts75
Жыл бұрын
@@goldenaye3 they're guardian readers. Try not to take those with single digit iq's too seriously.
Seeing toddlers being carried in active war zones is some of the most terrible imagery I could ever imagine
@linobiavaschi9157
Жыл бұрын
As per what meaning?
@williamyoung9401
Жыл бұрын
Seeing rifles inside a religious citadel is also quite terrible imagery... (2:38)
@adetaiootuyemi8169
Жыл бұрын
In a place like 21st century Europe. It's chilling and scary
@arthurdewith7608
Жыл бұрын
@@linobiavaschi9157 meaning the heartlessness of the Stalin Putin way of treating people like robots with no mind
@cheesypuffs1342
Жыл бұрын
you never seen Palestine?
Thank you for this great information
Thank you for this great resumé of the situation.
Another key detail not covered is that Ukraine was acknowledged as a "separate" and "voluntary" country within the USSR - as on paper its constitution allowed for independence any time it wished. The problem was any Ukraine actually working for independence was either arrested or assassinated.
@tokyo.peking
Жыл бұрын
Olease DO NOT LIE HERE. You do not know!
@Vlad65WFPReviews
Жыл бұрын
@@tokyo.peking The only ones lying are those supporting the Kremlin.
@my-curiosity
Жыл бұрын
as Ukrainian, I confirm it. After occupation (after WW1) USSR had to refer to Ukraine as a separate country, otherwise they would have faced a huge resistance from Ukrainians. So they act carefully, making a trap for Ukraine. Around 10 years later, they started repressions, prisoning and killing Ukrainian elite, again forbidding Ukrainian language, organized terror-famine Holodomor in 1932-1933 ...horrible and evil times you can't even imagine...over 5 millions people starved to death (nobody counted, if there are real numbers exist they are hidden by Moskowi KGB in secret archives).
@tokyo.peking
Жыл бұрын
@@my-curiosity Oh...cmmon...do not LIE. THEY PRACTICALLY MAKD UKRAINA FROM OTHER STATES PARTS. Where was that ukrain before comunists ?
@tokyo.peking
Жыл бұрын
@@my-curiosity Ah yes, holodomor.... DID ANYWHERE IN CCCP ALSO PPL DIE BECAUSE OF HUNGER OR OOOONLY IN UKRAINA ?
Another interesting historical fact to consider to add to this all: The Cyrillic alphabet used by both Russia and Ukraine, originated in what is now Southern Bulgaria/Northern Greece, commissioned during the First Bulgarian Empire. Our histories are intertwined, sure, but we also have a right to shape our histories going forward. I guess by Putin’s logic, Bulgaria should be annexing all Slavic countries still using Cyrillic today as part of a New Bulgarian Empire, because hey, we gave y’all the gift of writing, which led to your literature, and hence helped shape your cultures. Seems logical to me! (Sarcasm, if it wasn’t evident)
@habarakadageperera1298
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Now I understand Putin's flawed logic.
@MarcGrafZahl
Жыл бұрын
Oh, and all countries using the Latín alphabet are actually Italian property? 😱
@maatwarrior340
Жыл бұрын
In fact, Cyrillic alphabet was invented for Russia by Greek monks, Kirill and Mithody. Russia culture, language, history, mentality and religion was always connected to Greece, in particular ithose Greek who lived in Black Sea region and Constantinople.
@BrutishLearner4
Жыл бұрын
@@MarcGrafZahl Biggest plot twist ever. The fall of the Roman Empire was just a prelude to later take over large swaths of the world because of Latin roots of various languages 😂 Ancient Rome’s Revenge
@mikesamovarov4054
Жыл бұрын
You're clearly mixing the language and the alphabet. Polish is similar to Russian, yet they chose latin letters to represent sound. Alphabet doesn't metter that much.
I loved that Shakespeare comparison! but to think that there's still three more scenes to come is frightening
Why the States are so obsessed is the other question!
Putin isn't just obsessed about Ukraine. It just happened to be the first country on his shopping list, that he thought would be a pushover. Of course, now that it isn't he knows that losing there also means losing power, and possibly his life too. Hence the reason he will never stop of his own free will.
@Dethfeast
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. He thought it would be like Hitler and Austria.
@patriark
Жыл бұрын
Not the first. That was Chechnya, a country whose he ordered a domestic terrorist attack within Moscow to legitimatize the invasion. Grozny was then leveled to rubble during the second invasion. After that, it was Georgia. So there have been a long history of Putinist aggression. Ukraine is the first to properly stand up to this bully. And the West must learn that our weak stance for the last few decades have been a failed policy towards a terrorist state
@Simpaulme
Жыл бұрын
Why should he think it would be a pushover after the Maidan uprisings!
@EiziEizz
Жыл бұрын
@@patriark Exactly, western politicians have immersed themselves in shameful cowardice and appeasement. Slava Ukraine, freedom or death.
@maatwarrior340
Жыл бұрын
The UK is becoming the most racist country on the planet, supporting russophobia and economic unjust. Leading to global crisis and apocalypse. Colonial past......
As a former 2 year old, I feel the man's pain.
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@roseblue3368
Жыл бұрын
Great one😂👍
@veramae4098
Жыл бұрын
Snarky. 😅
@NomenFugazi
Жыл бұрын
underrated comment!
@GreoGreo
Жыл бұрын
Cry more.
perfectly well described!
Thank you so much I have learnt so much from this ..
Seriously...? "We are one people"... And if you don't like it, I will destroy you all?
Ukraine has just about everything. Major sea port terminals, flat & rich soil, grain & other stuff. Several nuclear powerplants. Untapped natural gas & oil.
@elitecoder955
Жыл бұрын
The total worth of natural gas , coal and other non renewable resources in Russia is valued at 75 trillion dollars
@tonyjay508
Жыл бұрын
@@elitecoder955now I can understand why the Europeans wanted control of Ukraine that's a lotta dough a lotta EU Politicians can get their hands into that $75 Trillion
@leonardgmiller8924
Жыл бұрын
@@tonyjay508 it belongs to the Ukrainian people and no one else
@hellothere1656
Жыл бұрын
@@tonyjay508 The EU is not Russia. They allow their member states to make their own choice and control their resources whilst Russia just straights up invades and steals it for itself.
@elitecoder955
Жыл бұрын
@@leonardgmiller8924 we are talking about Russia
Can't wait for scene 5...
Just saying when they do eventually make a movie/tv series about this, it's going to be absolute fire
I recall a failed painter using the same phrase "historycal land" "restore our nations territory" . Things didnt go well for him.
@Cris_the_coder
Жыл бұрын
I can't wait till Putin gets the 9 mm treatment. At that point Russia will have failed two times in my lifetime.
@jimbocho660
Жыл бұрын
*groan*
@goldenG978
Жыл бұрын
Painter didn't had nukes , in today's world 7-8 countries are nuclear power , what do u what destruction of earth ?
Now he is thinking: "If I can't get Ukraine no one else will"
@twilightprince4833
Жыл бұрын
I'm scared that he'll nuke the country...
@AlexEffractor
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine belongs only to Ukrainians. russia can bomb our country, but we'll rebuild everything. We are rebuilding broken streets, buildings, and power plants right now. Greetings from Kharkiv, Ukraine!
@rositasultana3958
Жыл бұрын
Ex boyfriend syndrome...
@albinpaul3429
Жыл бұрын
@@twilightprince4833 Russia is losing so there is high chance for nukes to fly.
@deecee796
Жыл бұрын
If those he orders will push the button that is...
The title should be "Why is the USA so obsessed with Ukraine?"
@rickywright1264
11 ай бұрын
And why doesn't Russia care about human rights or any other state in the world?
@jhaduvala
10 ай бұрын
@@rickywright1264 Oh Ricky must be American.
@rickywright1264
10 ай бұрын
@jhaduvala you must be on the troll farm. 12 hour shifts working for a FaZZcist. Your grandparents would have been proud.
great analysis...the begining of the end, it is.
As a Ukrainian I’m very glad that west now see all those crazy history speculations and other reality that russia build inside it’s own country and society. There is much more things to know about why we are absolutely different people with Russians and why we newer been their allie or part of territory. We always was a forced victim and couldn’t resist without help but now we are not alone. As all other Ukrainians, I’m sure that with our will to fight and you help we will finally break that endless circle of forced « friendships » with them. And look like we are already wining.
@kickmcmelon18
Жыл бұрын
Ukrainians have been fuqed over and stepped on throughout history and that's where I think this spartan level thinking and fighting moral is coming from. Enough is enough isn't just a saying... #Slavaukraine!!! Love from the usa!!
@arselenebitara1356
Жыл бұрын
May victory yours very very soon. 💞💙💛💙💛🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦fr PH🇵🇭
@veramae4098
Жыл бұрын
Just watched a vid about the elimination of smallpox. The whole idea was begun by a Russian doctor. Except later, they mention he was Ukrainian. Keep seeing that in Russian history, now that I'm sensitive to it. Ukraine has contributed so many great people to history ... no wonder Putin is dead set on claiming it's Russian.
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
Жыл бұрын
Slava Ukraini🇺🇸❤️🇺🇦
@user-pt5vn5zk7m
Жыл бұрын
Thanks everyone for your support! Hope after victory you will visit our beautiful cities to enjoy architecture and our cuisine😉
Freedom to Ukraine from Bosnia 💛💙
@nomadlifehacks
Жыл бұрын
I hope also peace and harmony for Bosnia too. I was in Medugorje and Mostar, beautiful cities
@RJCMaxification
Жыл бұрын
Bosnia invaded Ukraine? haha just kidding
@sodiumvalproate3936
Жыл бұрын
I hope you folks can acheive peace and get the justice you truly deserve. I truly care for Bosnia 💛💙🇧🇦
Quite precise it is...
But where is the Donbass' part of this story? Why not even a word about it?
Based on the fighting, Ukrainians and Russians are NOT the same.
Is not important what he wants, Important is what people wants!! It’s just a sick ambition if one man
@wellardme
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and i wonder if anyone has asked those 1 million dead Iraqis about the peaceful intent of Western countries. Of course not: it's ok when we do it.
@lockwoodpeckinpaugh9252
Жыл бұрын
Ego maniacs roll that way.
@Cris_the_coder
Жыл бұрын
Putin thinks he was born special when he's just a regular human, just like any of us 😐
@schutsheer_des_vaderlands
Жыл бұрын
So what do you think the people of the Donbass want? Oh wait, that doesn't matter. Hypocrite.
@Cris_the_coder
Жыл бұрын
@@schutsheer_des_vaderlands just say it with me. the people of Ukraine do not want to be ruled by Putin. Not even young Russians want to be ruled by Putin. Nobody wants to be ruled by Putin.
Why is everyone so obessed? is the real question
The logic of "we share the same ethnicity and language therefore we are one country" is not only an overly simplistic one but one that contradicts history in many ways... the Singaporean PM was the one who spoke out against that and you can't help but think that many Asian countries are worried
@NorthPoleSun
3 ай бұрын
Ukraine was artificially invented. It's not a real country.
@firehazzard8497
3 ай бұрын
@@NorthPoleSun The United States was artificially created, it seems pretty real to me.
@UAkovalchuk
2 ай бұрын
@@NorthPoleSunukraine is the kievan rus!!
That elderly Ukrainian woman at 8:55 is a legend. The Russian soldiers should have listened to her.
This claim to Ukraine and its heritage on the basis of a history-inspired fan fiction is pretty much like either Portugal or Romania proclaiming itself the sole successor to the Roman Empire and claiming Rome (and all of modern Italy, of course) based on that
@thestarseeker8196
Жыл бұрын
Israel did it based on a book of myths and the world decided that was all that was needed. Never underestimate the toxicity of this kind of nationalism.
@greatsarmatae
Жыл бұрын
That is what exactly Muscovy did with "Rus" identity. Because there is only one ethnic and cultural Rus - Ukraine.
@thestarseeker8196
Жыл бұрын
@@stefanfreestylez oh yeah, trust me I know how it is to dare to question one of the Big Three™ in any way 😂
@roysmith3767
Жыл бұрын
Search . ' Why is Ukraine the West's Fault . ''
@3strll
Жыл бұрын
Same goes to China.
nice summary!
Excellent summary, thank you. Slava Ukraini!
@DamianMoody
4 ай бұрын
It's complete lies btw go find out for yourself.
Something important to know, for all who are interested in history and/or support Ukraine: Rus’ ought not to be confused with “Russia”, which derives its name from the Rus’ but historically is a completely different state, which almost all its existence was at war with the Rus’. Just like the Holy Roman Empire was actually Germany, Russia is actually Muscovy, despite their best attempts to convince everybody otherwise. Its name “Russia" received only in 1721, when Peter I passed a decree to change Tsardom of Muscovy’s name into the “Russian” Empire (“Russia” originates from Rosia, name used by the Greek Orthodox Clergy in regards to Kyivan Rus') Under the reign of Cathrine II Muscovites where even punished for continuing to identify as Muscovites, and were forced to call themselves “Russian”. Lands that “Russia” claims were part of the original Rus’, but actually weren't, are Novgorod, Suzdal, and Ryazan, since in historical texts of XI-XII centuries they are mentioned as separate entities from Rus’. They can be considered parts of extended Rus’, although their culture was distinct from main Rus’. In 1493 Moscow prince Ivan III appointed himself to be the Great Ruler of All Rus’. No other kings acknowledged that. From that point on Muscovy started to make false claims on Rus’ ownership. “Russia” is an offshoot of Ukraine and not the other way round, despite what Soviet and “Russian” historians have been trying to say for years. Kiev was a developed cultured capital when Moscow was just another swamp village. Germany used to call itself the Holy Roman Empire, that didn’t mean they became the Romans, and all of a sudden had a right to claim whole of Italy and its history, but yet, that’s exactly what “Russia” did in regards to Rus’-Ukraine, which is a horrible injustice!
@BenjaminVestergaard
Жыл бұрын
That's a very detailed and extensive explanation. Thank you, I learnt something today. Then I have one question, but it's about the name of the Rus, you say the name originates from Greek, but I've heard that it originates from scandinavia, while vikings were the ones sailing the seas and settling in inlets (vig in modern danish is a corner of an inlet), the rus were the rowers that went up the rivers to make settlements (roer in modern danish means rower). Which one is more correct?
@orbitfold
Жыл бұрын
Yes, by Putins own theory Russia should be part of Ukraine and not the other way round.
@DennisBLee
Жыл бұрын
Nice run down. Anyone familiar with medieval history knows that Kyiv was the center of the Slavic world for a long time while most of the region east of the Dnipro was overrun with steppe hordes and warring fiefdoms.
@Disorder2312
Жыл бұрын
How the name "Ukraine" originates then, if you're saying that it was Rus'?
@ChRW123
Жыл бұрын
@@orbitfold From now on I'll call Russia Eastern Ukraine
Putin is like an abusieve ex husband that cant take it that his partner left him because it wanted a better life.
@Blanka1100
Жыл бұрын
And he blames his ex wife for calling the police.
@goldbullet50
Жыл бұрын
No, Putin is a head of state of a great power that is concerned when the sphere of influence of their enemy expands closer and close to their borders.
@Max_Jacoby
Жыл бұрын
@@goldbullet50 he don't give a shit about Finland joining NATO though...
@Blanka1100
Жыл бұрын
@@goldbullet50 Russia it's a poor state where milions of people have no toilet at home and anything but a super power. Cheap gas station, russian science sucks, russian medicine sucks, gdp sucks, cold war erea is over and Eastern Europe it's not Russia's backyard anymore. Russians seems to be the only one not to get this fact yet, patrzetic state and pathetic paranoid leader who can not stand his tme of glory is over.
@capohd28
Жыл бұрын
@@goldbullet50 Sorry, but Russia is no longer a great power. Great powers are based on financial resources, not colonialism or “sphere of influence”. The US is a great power, not because of it’s military or colonial ambitions or even nukes. It’s because of it’s financial power. That’s what it is wielding against Russia and will bring it’s demise. NATO and the US have no ambitions to take over Russia, which seems to be their biggest fears. US only wants peace, more now than ever. I can’t say the same for Russia who think that imperial ambitions are what makes it great. It does not. The sooner Russia realizes that, the sooner they can turn their focus to build their economic power which has never been realized after the Cold War, as Russia could not stop attacking neighbours.
WoW, as a Ukrainian I’m very grateful for enlightening the real! history, the real reasons and problems in this awful war that russia has started. Thank you so much for such quality content
@thegeekviking5427
Жыл бұрын
Ukranians are the bravest people on earth! Look at how Russians are so scared of defying their own authorities and barely protest.... While Ukranians are fighting for their lives and freedom against Russian army!! Russia will lose this war! Slava Ukraini!!
@keepitsharp7231
Жыл бұрын
Glory to Ukraine =) 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🌻 🇺🇦 🇺🇦
@coolguy1648
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine is 👑
@bangbangstabby2017
Жыл бұрын
@@thegeekviking5427 brave lol
@FullGardenStudent
Жыл бұрын
if you are curious about real history, they you might want to look up Scott Ritter's "russia is on the right side of the history" video
6:06 Belgium: hold my croissant
I still have hope that the Western world will put liberty over comfort and that Putler won't divide us. We need to constantly speak up against the Kremlin regime and support Ukraine. Slava Ukraini !
@Neo-Reloaded
Жыл бұрын
I hope Ukrainians solve their own problems instead of begging for help around the world. Sometimes you just need to leg go of pride. Give Putin some land and end this senseless war.
@sanderdeboer6034
Жыл бұрын
I have reduced my gas usage by 90 percent. Now only taking cold showers and not heating my house. Also did away with my car and only use public transport, bikes and walking to get around. No more airplane trips for me as well. Only taking the train to go on holiday. And many others follow this example here in the EU. Overall gas consumption has been reduced the past 6 months by 25 percent. I meet Ukrainian refugees on a daily basis, who stay on a river cruise ship only 100 meters away from my house. Others stay near my step fathers house in a large hotel. I have been collecting toys for Ukrainian kids for months now, and do as much as I can do give aid. So we are doing as much as we can, plus giving up a lot of comfort to defeat this murderous fascist dictator Putin.
@sanderdeboer6034
Жыл бұрын
@@Neo-Reloaded Insane argument! Just give fascist murderous dictator Putin some land and end the senseless war? First of all this has already been done with Crimea, which was taken by Russia in 2014. Ukraine obviously didn’t agree with that, but didn’t start a war over it. But now evil Putin wants the rest of the country. So what if Ukraine will give ‘some land’, will that stop insane thief dictator Putin? HOW?
@sanderdeboer6034
Жыл бұрын
@@Neo-Reloaded You use MAFFIA LOGIC! If you give me your profits I will stop harassing you! If you give me your land I will stop the war I started!
@JoaoVictor-hg4tr
Жыл бұрын
@@Neo-Reloaded i think i saw something like this happen before, would you like to ask the czechs about it?
Glory and freedom to Ukraine. 🇬🇧🛡️🇺🇦
@211inprogress
Жыл бұрын
@@Georgios1821 lol. 🚜🇷🇺💨💨💨
@leftenanalim
Жыл бұрын
No. Glory to Russia 💪🏻
@Simpaulme
Жыл бұрын
@@Georgios1821 How does that reflect a sense of kinship between Russia and Ukraine!
@chaoscorsair
Жыл бұрын
@@Georgios1821 If a nuke hits Kiev, a nuke will hit Moscow in return. Nobody wins.
@211inprogress
Жыл бұрын
@@Simpaulme 💯👍
brotherly.....yes how brutal insane you treat your brother...
4:26 that was a perfect throw!
The poor guy hasn’t picked up a new time zone in such a long time…
@TheDavidlloydjones
Жыл бұрын
There are about four time zones he's in danger of losing out there -- although China operates 62 degrees of longitude on a single time zone. This may be why he recently took time out of his hectic schedule to visit Kazakhstani and China. If he manages to stay in office, he may live to see Moscow's loss of any influence in Mongolia...
@matimus100
Жыл бұрын
Prince Andrew and Tony Blair loves this comment
7:50 This minister actually messes up a moment before this and says he supports the annexation of Luhansk and Donetsk. It's pretty incredible
I think this all changes now. Great piece of video making here.
Well put.
That winter was on fire.. Glory to the Heros.. Rest in peace Serhiy 🇺🇦🇺🇦
The real question is, why Russia is so obsessed to Putin?
@aiapihud4344
Жыл бұрын
you've clearly not been paying attention to the state collapsing for the last week..
@KaloyanKasabov
Жыл бұрын
Chechen war and economic development up until 2014
@igrok878
Жыл бұрын
Russia respects order.
@oleksandrfomin326
Жыл бұрын
Russian people has never lived under democratic regime. They don't know what taking responsibility means, they're afraid of it
@Boorad88
Жыл бұрын
They prefer living in a run down jail with little economic opportunity. Ask the Tsarina: Russians love the whip!
Excellent put together video 👏🏼👏🏼
And why USA is so obsessed with Ukraine ?
My take from this video: Ukraine has a claim on Russia...
@RuslanKvitnevyi
Жыл бұрын
good observation :-p
@MALITH666
Жыл бұрын
*Putin wants to know your location*
@Sean-ll5cm
Жыл бұрын
@@MALITH666 *flees to Kyiv so he'll never be able to capture me*
He's not obsessed with ukraine, he's obsessed with himself
@adamblack267
Жыл бұрын
He’s obsessed with natural resources
@ylvajonsson8707
Жыл бұрын
The world leaders are obsessed with Putin.
@ylvajonsson8707
Жыл бұрын
@@adamblack267 as US then? And Germany? And..
@adamblack267
Жыл бұрын
Exactly right. Hegemony is in our nature unfortunately.
@sodiumvalproate3936
Жыл бұрын
@@ylvajonsson8707 Whataboutism
Thank you for clear concise and un-emotional reporting on a complex subject matter from a seasoned experienced reporter.
@kawagonzo6951
Жыл бұрын
Lol fool
@sulesomow6461
Жыл бұрын
Why dont they make such reporting on US and Nato atrocités? The world is tired of sélective empathy that suits certain agendas! Lets arm Palestinians then since they have endured war crimes for decades?
@rossevans1774
Жыл бұрын
Yes, you are correct in all you have stated.
Thanks!
Guess Italy should invade most of Europe, North Africa, and east bank since its all Roman
@jonathangeorge787
Жыл бұрын
Time for pax romana! Lets go!!!
@ehombane
Жыл бұрын
You are wrong, it is not their turn. As you said they already invaded it, next was the turks turn, next germans turn. True, it was kind of short. Or maybe not, if we consider that they exported their ambition over the pond and continued there. And now comes chinese turn, so russians hurried to grab a piece till it is not too late.
@teresamccartney1309
Жыл бұрын
No, Italy and all of the world should belong to africa
@ad_astra468
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was like the whole point of fascism and Mussolini's dictatorship, didn't turn out too great so no thanks we are fine as it is
@jooseppib1082
Жыл бұрын
But all of humanity originates from Africa so perhaps Tanzania owns us all?
The Russians expected to be greeted with bread and salt. Well the salt they got. Rubbed in their wounds.
@amalgama2000
Жыл бұрын
Nice figure of speech!
He's more obsessed with not finishing what he started, this is not going to end well for everyone
Excellent, informative and convincing video!
I’m so proud of Ukrainians!!! Long live peace !!!
@GrigVan
Жыл бұрын
Ukrainians and Russians are one people and one country. Now there is a civil war.
@anonymousmoon7863
Жыл бұрын
@@GrigVan that they are not.
@BobuxGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@GrigVan 40 million Ukrainians disagree with that statement
@adamblack267
Жыл бұрын
It’s a Proxy war not a civil war.
@paulfri1569
Жыл бұрын
@@GrigVan Like Italians and Spanish people's?
As a Ukrainian, let me re-emphasize: we have never been one country, we have never been allies or friends or brotherly nations. It has always been an empire-colony relationship. And it must be stopped. We never wanted and will never want to be w/ ruzzia in any kind of "friendship"or union, in any shape or form. And I am still shocked how the civilised world simply ignored our 44-million people country (like the biggest country in Europe), looked at us only through the moscovia's imperialistic lense, and never looked at us as an independent sovereign state which we fought to be, and let the history be the witness, we fought so hard. Ps. ruzzia loving trolls in the comments, you're какашки.
@DrLoverLover
Жыл бұрын
As one ukrainan you dont speak for everyone
@bakimc4722
Жыл бұрын
@@DrLoverLover :Excellent answer.
@user-iz7fu2dp6q
Жыл бұрын
@@DrLoverLover Imagine how many Ukrainians don't watch foreign channels like this one and can't answer to you. And if you say that his comment is not right, then ask yourself why 99% of all Ukrainians hate russia now?
@yahyaelmi8435
Жыл бұрын
The Soviet Union was a country . Ukraine has made a mistake , they shouldn’t betray your old ally , by deciding to want to join NATO .
@titogarcia1830
Жыл бұрын
La historia dice bien claro...Ucrania,Kiev existio primero que Rusia.......nunca los ucranianos han sido de Rusia.......al contrario.......los rusos eran moscovitas.......ni rusos se llamaban....Slava Ucrania Slava Ucrania...el pais mas valiente que se ha conocido,,,,,,Venga tu reino Dios........
nice video! thanks
Insightful
Interestingly, the term Ukraine appears for the first time in the Hypatian Chronicle in 1187. Russia did not exist. The term Russia appears 400 years later during the reign of Ivan the Terrible. Ukraine is my ancestral homeland 💙💛 Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦💙💛
@daniels1263
Жыл бұрын
No glory there anymore
@svarog8253
Жыл бұрын
so ? im ukranian as well, but ukraine russia and belarus share the same medieval history, moscovy was part of kievan rus, Kievan rus started in Novogord. rurikids dynsty was went on In moscovy and russia till Tsarsdom age.....you are permited to not like russians but dont you even try to change history.
@marinazw1775
Жыл бұрын
@@svarog8253 👍👍 очень достойно. И верно.
@NameUserOf
Жыл бұрын
If you are Ukrainian and repeat Muskovia's version of history that was proven wrong long ago then you're vatnik. Novgorod was dated much younger than Kyiv and in letters it was stated that when Novgorod existed Kyivan Prince was writing how he is going back to Rus' to his home town, Kyiv. Muskovia was a colony of Kyivan Rus' for a brief time but later Holden Horde captured it and since then it operating separately as Holden Horde's Usul. And it was ruled by Eastern rulers up until Peter 1 saw the moment they became weakened and strike his masters.
@roysmith3767
Жыл бұрын
Search . ' Why is Ukraine the West's Fault . '
A dictator, war criminal and corrupt politician walk into a bar. The bartender asks : What would you like to drink, Mr Putin.
@teresamccartney1309
Жыл бұрын
Nice bartender to give him respect with the mr
@nicholasfrost5946
Жыл бұрын
I would serve him our favorite drink called "Molotov cocktail".
@admiralbenbow5083
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasfrost5946 Id go for the `polonium daiquiri`.
@brandyluck6171
Жыл бұрын
And
@zoeydeu2261
Жыл бұрын
@@admiralbenbow5083 polonium tea anyone?
I think this is a reminder for us all to be more concise and clear when speaking in public 😂
maybe cause Ukraine was possibly going to join NATO and ultimately put missile systems on the Russian border . How do you think the US would respond if russia put missile systems on the US/Mexico border? the question should be why are we involved with this in the first place?
@MathyBoonen
2 ай бұрын
Ask yourself why do all neighbours off russia want to join the safety off nato so badly. Ukraine. Moldova. Georgia azerbedzjan armenia. All filed for nato. They all have a history with russian occupation? And what he was the most afraid off is now happening in finland. Us bases and nukes right at your border. Just ask yourself what the real cause is off al this
My ancestors are not Russians, they are Ukrainians. the ukrainian language only became our identity when putin started to take back the crimea that nikita khrushchev gave back to us in 1954. So it was also clear for the Russian speakers that they were Ukrainians. The situation is different in the Luhansk or Donetsk basin. The language there was 70% Russian and 30% Ukrainian. The so-called rebels who wanted to join Russia are an invention of the Russian secret service and Putin himself. We will not rest until the last place is liberated from Russian conquerors, including Crimea!
@gisar.6539
Жыл бұрын
I've always found it strange how the Russian speaking population had always lived in peace in Eastern Ukraine up until rebels (LPR and DPR) made a sudden appearance. Definitely sounds like a Kremlin-created group.
@AlexLog
Жыл бұрын
there a 2 resins for that: 1) mass deportation of ethnic Ukrainians from Donbas to Siberia and relocation of ethnic Russian to donnas (that is why there crime rates and drinking are higher there compared to the rest of Ukraine) 2) 80-year-long russification during soviet times
“Our Armed forces are brothers in Arms” 😂 Except Ukraine is the brother who knows how to fight 😂
@jimbocho660
Жыл бұрын
Ukraine has already lost the war. It's NATO that's fighting Russia now.
@RovingRoninEDC
Жыл бұрын
@@jimbocho660 hmm…I’m sure that’s it, what other source do we need then you 😂 I feel for you, the walls must be closing in and the world feels like it going away….. I’m just kidding, I don’t feel for you 😂
@adamblack267
Жыл бұрын
This is oligarchy vs oligarchy ie Russia vs USA.
@RovingRoninEDC
Жыл бұрын
@@adamblack267 That’s actually a very reasonable, very intelligent perspective. Well done 👊🏻
@adamblack267
Жыл бұрын
That is a statement that you’ll never hear from the mainstream media. This is definitely a proxy war.
Thank you for this video from Ukraine!
Why is NATO so obsessed to extend next to Russia's border? #🤔
@urielalbertodiazreynoso6309
Жыл бұрын
to steal russian resources?
@MathyBoonen
2 ай бұрын
Its the country own choice. Nobody says someona has to join. But a better question would be why all neighbours want to join?
I'm very happy to see that Ukrainians are fighting back and regaining lost territories and what a joy to see Ukrainians with relieve and excitement to greet their liberators. Slava Ukraine and may God bless the army ! 😊🙏
@mikesamovarov4054
Жыл бұрын
Happy as well, I almost gave up hope for my ancestral land! Go, Ukraine, go! 💙💛💙💛💙
@WoKBlog
Жыл бұрын
@@aidasmatulaitis5175 exactly. Russia will win.
@DrLoverLover
Жыл бұрын
Warmongers
@raaid85
Жыл бұрын
how did ukrainians figbt back? lol the soldiers were speaking southern american accent. this is a war of aggression by nato
@efghggdxlmfn33
Жыл бұрын
@@raaid85 yes, the counter-offensive of Ukraine - is a tactical victory, I don’t deny it, but a lot of resources, manpower, energy, money and weapons were invested in it, this offensive was planned for several months, but it was planned to capture Kherson and ended with the capture of an insignificant part of the territory, less than 5% of what Russia controls in the east and south of Ukraine. you can call it a flight, you can call it the re-grouping, whatever but I didn’t see any serious evidence of Russia’s huge losses during the retreat.
The real question in historical justification is determining when history should start. Usually it is when your people are on top. If one really looks at the History of the Ukraine, one learns that that the Ukraine was part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which also included large chunks of Belorussia, while Russia was under the thumb of the Golden Horde. Ukraine later became part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which at one time occupied Moscow. During this period the borders moved bak and forth depending upon the fortunes of the various neighbors - Russians, swedes, Cossacks, Ottoman Turks, Magyars, etc. Over the course of the late 18th Century Poland/Lithuania and the Ukraine were partitioned between Austria-Hungary, Germany and Russia. In the case of the Ukraine, it was split with Austria Hungary getting the western portion formerly known as Galacia/Ruthenia and Russia taking the Eastern portion. The Crimea was original a titular part of the Ottoman Empire and home to the Tartar remnants of the Golden Horde and routinely pillage by Cossacks from the Zaprorhizia region of the Ukraine. So, who truly owns the Ukraine? Poland? Lithuania? Turkey? The Tartars, The Cossacks? Or, in accordance with the Right to Self-Determination enshrined in the UN Charter, the Ukrainian people?
@MarioSanchez-ze2wq
Жыл бұрын
It makes me happy to know that there are people that read and remember history. Nice condensed version of Ukrainian history. Thank You Mr. Gellatly for sharing.
@vladimirthegreen6097
Жыл бұрын
Cossack didn't look at themselves as somethings different from the Russians in this time
@geofflepper3207
Жыл бұрын
If Neanderthals were living in Ukraine 100 thousand years ago then I'm willing to go with the slogan "Ukraine (and all of Europe) for the Neanderthals, past, present and in the future forever".
@ionaskualexander1255
Жыл бұрын
So Russia should become a province of Mongolia, right?
@buddyrojek9417
Жыл бұрын
Nice summary, the reality is the Ukrainian constitution is legal under the current UN Charter and international law, so Putin is totaly wrong under International law. Even Kosovo is still illegal under international law, yet he then uses it as justification. Ukrainians don't want a Russian "dream" so are fighting, and 75% want a EU NATO future. 25% prefer independence, but hey, that's democracy
Great piece!
Thank you for this video and support for my country.
Historically Russia is Viking land ....I don't really know if we want it back thou :)
@AmaliaGranath
Жыл бұрын
Sweden doesnt object! 🤣🤣 Oleg was a swedish viking.
@sharwama992
Жыл бұрын
@Risto Kempas please tell me your joking
It wasn’t called Kyivan Rus’. I was just Rus’. The former term is a Soviet invention, a misnomer, to separate the history of Rus’ from its origins in Kyiv and make russia the “true” descendants of that state. It’s important to note that the word ‘russian’ was in fact stolen from Ukrainian history, just like russians are looting stuff now from the occupied territories.
@mariusmihai1292
Жыл бұрын
Very true but it was called Kyiv Rus
@dmytrodelen
Жыл бұрын
@@mariusmihai1292 no my friend. This is an academic term just like “Byzantine Empire”, the people of Rus (or the foreigners) never called their state “Kyivan” Rus, simply Rus
@thephoenix756
Жыл бұрын
Novgorod (in Russia) was already a Rus settlement before Kiev was founded, so what are you on about? Are the Belarusians also lying?
@mariusmihai1292
Жыл бұрын
@@thephoenix756 The name Rus have nothing to do with Russia. At that time Rus had a meaning of traveler. Moscowits was name Russians in 1700. So again Rus has nothing o do with Russia. Just because they are alike that does not mean that Rus is Russia. Russia is coming from Rus. But is not Rus. Is like I name myself Mercedes and after that I say I own the company Mercedes. Russia and Ukraine, both are descendants of Kiev Rus. Novgorod after became Russia. But at time of Kiev Rus was Kiev Rus. And Russia did not exist. You mean Belarusians or Lukasenko? Because it’s not the same thing. Belarusians do not sustained that lie. And Russia is not at first try to lie about history. They fooled all Moldavian that they are not Romanians. They fooled all Romanians that Romania did not have a king before they’re invasion. And so on. My country is also a victim of Russia sick genocidal deceiving ways of killing a nation
@mariusmihai1292
Жыл бұрын
@@thephoenix756 in Fact Russia is lacking identity historically.
Not a single word about geopolitics, economics etc. NATO expansion, the strategic and economic importance of the Black Sea for Russia.
@robertwilson214
Жыл бұрын
Whom the gods wish to destroy,they first make mad'.
What art is shown at 0:46?
Great storytelling! Very well put together and narrated.
@davidburke2697
Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed.
@steelgear3876
Жыл бұрын
I'm not usually a fan of the Guardian's content but I agree with this comment
@andrealuisecandido1154
Жыл бұрын
i donT like silly narrows
@goranstojanov1160
Жыл бұрын
WELL IT IS FOR PROPAAGNDA PURPOSES SO OFCORSE IT MUST BE BASED IN STORYTELLING AND OMIT ANY KIND OF CONTEXT THAT SHOWS TEH REAL MEANING BEHIND SOME OF THE STATEMENST MADE THAT WEST LOVE SO MUCH TO DISECT,CHERRY PICK AND THEN PRESENT IT IN TEHIR WAY.....
@danutahanyga4834
Жыл бұрын
As far as story telling goes, The facts ae not quite right. It's not meant to be a story
well, don't forget about Belarus (a russian puppet now), Georgia (annexation of Osetia and Abkhazia), Ichkeria(occupation), Kazakhstan (pollitical pressure and Russification).
@tasbykekerey1203
Жыл бұрын
Kazakhstan has no choice , Kazakh suffered so much during Soviet time, lost entire 2/3 of its population
8:53 I don't know why that's funny, but the way he says it, is.
I learned something new thank you