Don't need a 6 min conversation, it's simple, so they don't have to deduct points from Man City & Chelsea.

@nathanhenry7692

9 күн бұрын

Chelsea haven’t been charged and were not guilty. City are different

@CareyTV

9 күн бұрын

@@nathanhenry7692chelsea need to make up €100m in sales in the next year or two otherwise they dont meet the criteria (i think)

@dkmaxie

9 күн бұрын

Even if that's true you, can't be charged of a breach/crime and be judged on a new law.. Well in the real world you can't, but i guess this is football they'll make it up as they go...

@notreal1477

9 күн бұрын

Cry about chelsea all you want, fact is without them, the super league would've already started.The americans will jump ship in a heart beat as will city if the 115 charges actually stick. Then any financial regulation goes out the window.

@MWS1960

9 күн бұрын

It’s should go back to the time of the offense, so the penalty should be points deduction

Getting rid of PSR so Man City get away with the 115 charges.

@russellward4624

9 күн бұрын

It would only start in the 2024-25 season but City aren't charged with PSR so it wouldn't matter even if it didn't.

@mazdakmina9493

9 күн бұрын

Yeah, no. Even ignoring the fact that these rules would only apply *beginning next season* (and if a team broke the rules of previous seasons, they still gained an unfair advantage and are subject to punishment)... Even under these new changes, Man City broke *actual laws* (like lying on official financial documents and money laundering) and would still be in violation of the new rules if they committed the same acts under the new rules! Yes, I *am* still worried they'll lawyer their way out of facing consequences for the charges, but *not* because of these new rules.

@Neo_Rain146

9 күн бұрын

If you waiting for PSR to make your club compete with Man City then keep waiting

@russellward4624

9 күн бұрын

@mazdakmina9493 what's you're evidence for this claim because eufa had no evidence at all to support that claim. The PL has no new evidence.

@mazdakmina9493

8 күн бұрын

@@russellward4624 LOL Oh, another gaslighter! It was already proven *in court* that Man City's owners falsified documents, and UEFA *proved* it, fined Man City £50 million, and later put a 2-year European competition ban on Man City - which Man City got off of only due to the "technicality" that the statutes of limitation had passed (which it only passed because they *delayed* the ruling by obstructing the investigation)! Take you pathetic gaslighting somewhere else, cheater lover!

Are they scrapping them so that City can get away with 115?!

@sebluketravis2438

10 күн бұрын

I can't see Richard Masters surviving that - and I don't mean his job.

@calth9305

10 күн бұрын

Ye they will get a massive fine instead of being relegated down the pyramid

@seanolusina6058

10 күн бұрын

Whatever law comes in play, it won't be retrospective.

@ntokozoshaba

10 күн бұрын

No. We’ll still be tried over current rules. Charges came in against current rule set.

@liamjohnson7887

10 күн бұрын

No.

I can imagine club owners in a room with the authorities all arguing for the right to spend more money and Daniel Levy sitting quietly at the back sweating.

@FootyRevolutionHQ

9 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 nah man

@websterk451

9 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@USER06584B

9 күн бұрын

the owners loot these clubs in many ways, including mad consultancy fees. they dont care about the game and we are just forced to take it.

@simonbaker3612

9 күн бұрын

"I'm nipping out to the bog guys" 😂

@saneman7177

8 күн бұрын

Sat at the back texting his team to commence the water park & rollercoaster designs for the stadium

Even if they change the rules, Man City FFP was before the changes so the old rules should apply for them

@pablodrogo

10 күн бұрын

key word being "should". with how the world works, they're gonna scrape the charges when they make the change. there's no justice left

@phigbill

10 күн бұрын

Well they managed to dodge a bullet like that already, when the PL/FA brought in the rules for associated 3rd party sponsorship it only related to future / new deals and didn't apply to historic or retrospective sponsorships, just another dodgy rule that suited City and other Big 6 clubs.

@russellward4624

9 күн бұрын

​@pablodrogo City aren't charged with PSR. This is PSR not FFP.

@notreal1477

9 күн бұрын

And then they leave for the super league and the rest of the domino's begin to fall. Abramovic was the only owner standing in the way of the super league and you all hounded him out under the false pretence of being a war criminal - for nothing more than paying taxes in his home country. Using the same logic, you're responsible for the million murdered civilians in Iraq because you paid taxes to the uk government. Yall actually deserve the Premier league to crumble because of your fickleness and inability to support the clubs who hold your values at heart.

@edwardbellamy5154

9 күн бұрын

It's to let of yhe cheating clubs city and Chelsea if nothings done other teams should refuse to play them

So PSR isn't fit for purpose? Can Everton and Forest have their points back then?

@mazdakmina9493

9 күн бұрын

Let's be clear, the old rules still applied when they did and anyone who broke them is still liable (and that at least *should* include Man City - more on them later)! For a more simple (purely hypothethical) example, the rule currently states you're not allowed to have >11 players on the field. If a team fielded 12 for multiple games, and they changed the rule *now* to allow 12 players - sorry, those teams fielding 12 still were gaining an unfair advantage by fielding 12 over the teams that only fielded 11! And if one team was currently under trial for fielding *115* additional players (and had 126 players on the field while other teams played by the rules and only fielded 11), then yes, that trial still moves forward because they *still* broke the rules for a *major* unfair advantage! Oh, and it should also be noted, even with the rule changes being suggested, Man City *still* would be in breach of them if they did what they did today with the new rules! Again, in the analogy above, they can increase the number of players a team can play to 12, or even 14, or even 20, and Man City *still* would be in *massive* breach of that by fielding 126 (again, it's an example for simplicity sake. The point is, Man City broke the rules *and the law* so severely, no amount of rule changes will keep them out of violation of them! They literally laundered money and doctored their books! These aren't just rule violations, these are *major crimes* that are punishable by *prison* time! And the people being paid through these means, like Roberto Mancini, *knew!* He was being paid under the table, and guaranteed there were many others! No one better dare try to claim, "well the players and coaches didn't know, don't punish them with judgment." That's yet another defense mechanism to refuse to acknowledge the seriousness of the situation)! Hope that makes sense! I'll be happy to answer any further questions!

City charged against old rules. These dont apply to 115 charges.

@OffMetaProfessor

10 күн бұрын

Yes it's very possibly corrupt

@GermanChickenwing

10 күн бұрын

Then you know f all about the charges.. Do you know the rules have to be voted by 20 clubs? City is even against the new rules

@dan9590

9 күн бұрын

Man City are not being charged with any breach of PSR rules, old or new. This is a massive misconception. They are being charged with, basically, accounting fraud, which is far more serious. The Premier League are accusing them of putting money into their accounts that didn't exist.

@AzraKolic-bl6pt

9 күн бұрын

Only 14 need to be for in to pass

@RandySnortin

9 күн бұрын

Definitely some brown envelopes passed out by city owners here.

So they are getting rid of PSR due to it not being fit for purpose but trust the same people who made PSR up to have another go at getting it right.... That makes sense.. Yet the same people are okay with personal payments to Ref's from owners of a competing club, team's breaching T&C's and violating financial agreements is also okay, wonky var lines that don't actually make any sense if you understand basic mathematics and the protection of officials who clearly are controlling the flow and creating drama to maximise 'entertainment' is also okay. But you can't call it out otherwise you face fines and being lambasted in the media. Grim.. I could go on and on too.. This isn't a fair sporting competitive leauge, it's borderline a dictatorship masked as football. I and I'm sure so many others are loosing trust and faith in the Premier league.

Give Everton and Forest their points back, admit you screwed it all up, and start again when you get yourselves together. Embarrassing.

@markrobinson1369

9 күн бұрын

Fine the 100 million instead. Cheats

@MichaelGGarry

8 күн бұрын

No, they cheated.

Instead of basing it off the bottom team, which can change every season. Do an AVERAGE of the non-European slots. Even the average revenue of the entire league should be explored. This allows lower clubs to spend more, and don't forget the big guns are always lifting the averages up. This average revenue is still way higher than other league winners. This still makes EPL competitive, and maintains the no1 league in the world.

@nottopcat5956

10 күн бұрын

It’s based on broadcast revenue, which is distributed by the league

The 85% rule just cements the status quo

How do our top clubs compete in Europe then? Are Real Madrid, Barcelona etc going to play by these rules, of course not.

@RgjDj1878

9 күн бұрын

They are the only 2 clubs that pay silly money outside of the prem and Saudi.

@russellward4624

9 күн бұрын

​@RgjDj1878 but thats because Bayern have a monopoly in Germany. Thier wage bill is double Dortmunds and 28xs the bottom club. So they don't have to pay big transfers or wages because they're the only option in Germany and can't get into bidding wars.

@RgjDj1878

9 күн бұрын

@@russellward4624 monopoly or not they aren’t paying big money. It isn’t mega money to go to a game either. At the end of the day the rate money is going at in the prem it will become a bubble that bursts and everyone will suffer down the pyramid. This is a working class game and fans can’t expect to have to keep footing the bill.

@Neo_Rain146

9 күн бұрын

Oh your mean that bankrupt club

@russellward4624

9 күн бұрын

@RgjDj1878 because they have a monopoly. Theyre the only club in the country that can pay high wages. That's why they sign every good player from their rivals. Their rivals can't pay wages that even Forrest can pay.

If the premier league really want to fix something thats actually broken how about starting with the abysmal standard of refereeing and VAR in the league. It is by far the biggest thing hurting their on-field product. These new rules is all just a bunch of shuffling around the deck chairs on the titanic especially while city and chelsea are allowed to continue cooking their books for a decade.

All these rules do is prevent investment in clubs. Some clubs outside the big 6 have extremely wealthy owners but are unable to continually break into the top four because they are limited to what they can invest. We are already heading towards having a 1 or 2 team league like France, Spain or Germany because competition is being sucked out year by year. The big teams profited before the rules were brought in and it's the rest that have to suffer now.

@creepingbrain

9 күн бұрын

Wealthy owners don't want to have to pump huge sums of money into their club every year to cover losses. But if your competitors are doing it, you feel you need to do it too. All that "no restrictions" would do is result in transfer fees and wages spiraling out of control, and then it becomes a race to see who can go into administration first. Every club voted for the new rules, it was a unanimous decision, that tells you everything.

@redtimez4520

9 күн бұрын

No these rules should prevent some owners like Newcastle buying an entire squad with 1 billion budget every season lol

Bending over backwards for City and UAE. Cancer in our beautiful game.

Uruguay won the very first World Cup -- and as a result, Everton have been docked another 6 points.

The rules have not been used. That is the issue.

Everton & Forest want their points back!!

Just making Man City's case stronger, why don't they just say we have accepted City's bride and would like to forget about them breaking the rules!

@OfficialFA

9 күн бұрын

That would be great for the league

What I can’t understand is if they’re saying PSR didn’t work then what benefit does the new model provide? Essentially you’ve gone from being able to make a loss to needing to remain in profit by only spending up to 85% of your revenue? To me it sounds like even more of a problem than previously. The anchoring makes some sense though but these rules just don’t add up for me.

@RibbonAssets

9 күн бұрын

That’s where I’m kinda at also. The anchoring needs to pass or at least have some form of anchoring such as taking the league average team broadcast revenue as opposed to the lowest teams broadcast revenue. Otherwise I don’t see it working as well as we all hope, but if anchoring doesn’t pass then hopefully I’m wrong!

@stephenparker5421

6 күн бұрын

Next vote.... increase the lowest teams tv rights 😂😂😂 just because Leeds and pompey shat the bed I don't see why we have to strangle the prem with it

The wealthiest club in the world can’t spend, while a club in 500million of debt can spend 200m/season, giving 300k/wk contracts, with no issues… very sustainable 😂 Update to replies: I’m a Newcastle fan - I know it’s the owners that are wealthy, not the club. It’s not rocket science. However, that is pretty much a technicality in regard to transfer spending since it’s so clear they’d invest and spend what they want if they were allowed to. They’ve openly said this and their actions in other sports are a shining example that they don’t mess around given the chance. As for servicing any debt - I.e. United - yeah, but it’s still not sustainable in a loss making business in the real world.

@stevenhaas9622

10 күн бұрын

LEt me take a wild guess. You think Newcastle is "the wealthiest club in the world"?

@gustaaf1892

10 күн бұрын

So you're telling everyone that you don't understand economic principles. Debt is irrelevant providing it can be serviced through revenue and profits. Most companies have debts.

@jimhuf8102

10 күн бұрын

@@gustaaf1892 problem is, no other club is now allowed to take on that level of debt otherwise newcastle would take out a massive loan

@gustaaf1892

10 күн бұрын

@@jimhuf8102 Newcastle can take out whatever loan it wants to, but it won't increase their revenue or profit. In fact it would reduce their profit because the debt servicing costs would be deducted from those. Newcastle is limited by how much money the club generates.

@cannyscott

10 күн бұрын

​@stevenhaas9622 newcastle have the wealthiest owners in the world but we are very very far from being a wealthy club 😂

This has been waaaay too much Kaveh the last few days, I've reached my quota

I love how Kaveh explains it so clearly and precisely

Just let clubs spend wot they want in my opinion but have a rule in place that if that owner of the wants too sell club that they have to clear deubts strait away or face instant points deduction or administration or relegation ,because you have mega rich owners at ncastle ,villa , bmouth that are not aloud to spend cos off ffp ,psr so they have to sell 1 of there stars hows that fair and its not fair compettion

It’s being scrapped as part of negotiations with super Rich owners of clubs

I don't think you will ever get a "One size fits all" scenario

@mattheendpod2659

6 күн бұрын

Finally some common sense.

The top 6 clubs with these deep pockets should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of embracing ideas for rules that try to give more of a level playing field that in turn should create a better competition for every team and every supporter they continue to think about themselves and splashing their money around. The law/rule makers should think of a system for the good of the game's supporters. Not the owners, not the players. Think along the lines of finding something with principles along the lines of a Golf Handicap system. The best players always grumble about how many shots their higher handicap opponents get before the game starts. The best players nearly always win regardless but the game is more of a competition. If they don't want to do this then just bob off and form your elite club league and see how that goes...

@keithfreeman7725

9 күн бұрын

I don't watch European or international games and I can certainly not watch another competition.

@Hungdiddly

9 күн бұрын

You do know arsenal and spurs are 2/3 clubs that voted keep the PSR.

It’s a new season FFP rules have been scrapped and Man City will start the league with a 15 point head start due to how well they have complied with newly implemented regulations 😂

Surely "Anchoring" by this description, will only hinder the European clubs the poorest championship promoted club is setting the budget for clubs in champions league, and europa league cup competitions. Why not just adopt the UEFA rules to give the clubs playing European football the best chance of European success which ultimately strengthens the national team as well.

@nottopcat5956

10 күн бұрын

It doesn’t matter how poor they are because it’s based on their broadcast revenue. Gives an incentive to split that more equally (or maybe even give the lower clubs more)

@g-nativesoulofficial603

10 күн бұрын

Wages don't strengthen teams

@comedianchrisdoering4097

10 күн бұрын

Simple solution for the big 6: give up a bigger percentage of broadcasting revenue to the smaller clubs. ;)

This spending limit (of 5 times what the least wealthy club spends) is a decent idea and much fairer than what currently exists.

@mazdakmina9493

9 күн бұрын

And that's why many of the big clubs are lobbying against it! But yes, I absolutely agree it needs to be in place!

Teams like Newcastle and Aston Villa need to be able to spend the wealth they have available, which will only make the league better. They need to find a way to not hold back teams that are more than able to spend, and which would then be able to challenge the top of the table if allowed to do so. I dont know Villas or Newcastles Revenue though so not sure if these new rules will even help.

@Hungdiddly

9 күн бұрын

Villa 😂😂 Okay.

@davidbennett5354

8 күн бұрын

@@Hungdiddly Newcastle supporter here. You do realise where Villa are? you do realise the type of players Villa can attract? Villa are a massive club who can quite easily challenge the so called top 6 if they were allowed to, just like Newcastle can

@jjfreer

7 күн бұрын

@@Hungdiddly yes villa. Do your research...

@Hungdiddly

7 күн бұрын

villa are far from a “massive club”… They rely on Watkins, martinez and VAR to pull victories, which was evident during the Chelsea match. Villa have a long way to go.

@jjfreer

6 күн бұрын

@@Hungdiddly haha what a load of rubbish. sore chelsea fan it was a foul anywhere on the pitch get over it. if its the other way round they woiuld be crying penalty.

How about banning state owned clubs? How about having an actual owner test that works?

Luxury tax > Salary cap The MLB is the best example of how well the luxury tax works. Smaller clubs win the World Series fairly often.

@RibbonAssets

9 күн бұрын

I agree! However I think with how wealthy some owners are they also need to implement a hard cap at some point to make it so the owners with hundreds of billions can’t just still overpay to win the league every year. Personally I’d do a soft cap at 85% of the leagues average team broadcast revenue. Anything past that gets fined 100% so 100M over would have to pay 200M, etc. Then I’d have a hard cap at 100% the broadcast revenue of the highest paid club (that didn’t qualify for Europe). This way any clubs can go over the soft cap if they’d like but there’s still a hard cap that no team can cross. I think this would be a fair approach most teams could get behind that wouldn’t clearly favor or punish bigger and richer clubs significantly more than the smaller clubs. Plus the fines paid for going over the soft cap could be distributed further down the pyramid

There’s always something new with this league

@keithfreeman7725

9 күн бұрын

Corruption is as old as the hills, the only thing 'new' is that it's so blatant.

Because Mr Masters has realised he will never send Everton down via points deductions ...plus nobody signed any players in Jan which makes the league look bad

Their nothing to discuss, the people responsible are failing to uphold the law

‘We don’t think it’s fair’ 😂. No the issue is it’s actually FAIRER, which is exactly what the ‘media 6’ don’t want.

@FootyRevolutionHQ

9 күн бұрын

Exactly

Potentially a good idea just need agree on who’s revenue to use

People are so deluded they dont understand City are still getting charged due to "allegedly" breaking the rules within the time frame they existed. While the top 6 want the rules changed before they are also in breach, as they only wanted the rules to stop teams like City displacing them in the first place. England needs an independent regulator because the original top 6 are out of control.

@donjesson7160

9 күн бұрын

I will put money on all they get is a fine , so they put a load of money into the fa pockets.

@creepingbrain

9 күн бұрын

The top clubs have to comply with the stricter UEFA regs, with a squad cost control ratio of 70% and allowed losses of just €5m per year. If the big clubs pass the UEFA regs, which they have to, they absolutely fly through the PL regs.

@Bdbtg28691

9 күн бұрын

To be fair, England's dubious ownership rules have damaged European football as a whole. Oligarchs and petro-states aren't good for football.

@russellward4624

9 күн бұрын

​@@donjesson7160because the PL has no evidence.

@russellward4624

9 күн бұрын

​@@Bdbtg28691and Barca and Real are?

Love the panel..keep up the good work…kaveh is 🔥..

But this is gonna disadvantage smaller clubs, they can't compete with the bigger teams If anything bigger teams can bypass this easily, this will keep bigger teams at the top This is football, you can pay via back doors

All these rules would mean nothing until it is enforced, NOT just for clubs at the bottom of the table but also to those who managed to win the league by breaking the rules.

So city can avoid being relegated

@russellward4624

9 күн бұрын

City aren't charged with PSR

“Just” 14 out of 20 clubs voted for PSR… so 70% then kaveh 🙄.. so majority voted it in. Not just the big clubs and now they’re wanting to limit the spending of big clubs… look at madrids team. They’re going to get mbappe, Endrick, alphonso Davies almost nailed on too! Apparently really keen on yoro from Lille. By limiting the spending of the big clubs, it’ll have a big impact on how they do in Europe and also the league! It doesn’t enable the smaller clubs to spend more, it’s just restricting the bigger clubs from spending!…. Being a lfc fan we’re 8/9th for net spend in the last 9 years.. spent hundreds of millions less than the other top 5. So I’m not biased with my comments. As I said 8th/9th in the table for net spend

@killiemucken

10 күн бұрын

I think that’s what they want more of spend smarter not more

@creepingbrain

9 күн бұрын

The big clubs have to comply with the stricter UEFA regs. Those regs are the same for Madrid as they are for Liverpool. The new PL regs will make no difference to the spending power of the big clubs.

This is bad, your affecting premier clubs in european competitions by doing this, like how MLS is limiting there potential they can have by a dumb salary cap rule

@gustaaf1892

10 күн бұрын

Salary caps are used to ensure a reasonably even competition and provides every club with an opportunity to potentially win the competition. You don't get a few clubs to dominate from here to eternity.

@luckymark571

10 күн бұрын

@@gustaaf1892 And that's why MLS is limiting it's potential ask any American and they will say to get rid of the rule, thats why they suck in international competitions they same will happen to premier league clubs if that happens

@marcseigar6873

10 күн бұрын

If the squad control rule limits costs to 85% of revenue, it still benefits the “big 6”. The anchor rule will never pass.

They will give Everton and Forest points back so they can wave away Man City violations.

Can we really recognise any of United, Liverpool or Arsenal's historical success if they just rig rules in their favour? Luckily for us our owners were able to run rings around them

Look, just let the clubs spend what they want on their own team, but deduct a team 10 points for every £100 million in debt. All these stupid rules are just stopping the best players coming to the premier league. Our league is getting worse every year and all because the top 6 cartel does not want any competition.

@creepingbrain

9 күн бұрын

Punishing clubs for debt would mean that clubs couldn't build new training grounds, redevelop their stadiums, or build new stadiums. As for investing into the squad punishing debt would make it more difficult. Why? Because wealthy owners pump money into clubs via loans. Debt. Think about a team that gets promoted to the PL. They have a wealthy owner. He pumps £200m in via loans to buy players so they can be competitive in the PL. Under your rules that club would be docked 20 points. But if the rules are based on allowed losses, or a squad cost ratio, that club owner can make that investment because of the way transfer fees are expensed and losses calculated.

@jakelister5152

9 күн бұрын

Premier league is already hoarding all the talent with their ridiculous wages

It will kill the market if you squad cap likes wages and stuff

@bleb87

9 күн бұрын

That's okay. Who cares about the market.

It's being scrapped because the big clubs don't like it, pure and simple. They want to be able to spend as much money as they like in order to keep feasting at the top table, and if there's any kind of tax to pay for that, so be it, they can easily afford it. And of course all the smaller clubs in the Prem will vote it in, because they don't want to risk losing their slice of the money pie.

Not sure why it should be based on television revenue. Thats basically saying Sky and TNT control clubs spending or have i picked that up wrong?

So the Man City case will commence after abolishment of PSR? Are they trying to render the Man City Case irrelevant?

Very easily circumvented as city have already been doing with inflated sponsorship deal eg: Etihad Airline sponsorship.

They won't retrospectively apply PSR to 115 and Chelsea Hotel Sales Ltd, but they also won't give Forest or Everton their points back, of course.

@russellward4624

9 күн бұрын

Because that's not how rules work.

@captainhowdy9845

9 күн бұрын

@@russellward4624 That's right. That's why I said they won't do it. You can read, right? But it's very convenient for 115 and the Hotel Sellers.

@mrgzola25

9 күн бұрын

Explain your issue selling the hotels? Assets they own?

@captainhowdy9845

8 күн бұрын

@@mrgzola25 They sold them to themselves 🤣🤣🤣 I didn't think that needed explaining

@henrychibuzor2380

7 күн бұрын

​@captainhowdy9845 it's still theirs so they have the right to sell it to whoever they want .

A club should be able to spend what they want, if it goes wrong for the club that the owners faullt

@creepingbrain

9 күн бұрын

Then it just becomes a race to the bottom and lots of clubs would go into administration.

@jakelister5152

9 күн бұрын

What about the fans, these are 100 Yr old clubs, no one wants to see them going into administration

@stephenparker5421

6 күн бұрын

​@creepingbrain then a sugar daddy comes along and invests billions into turning it around and next thing you know you're in the champions league. Why shouldn't that be allowed??? Just so long as there are some kinds of rules around the new owners from stitching up the club like that pompey bloke it shouldn't be an issue

If this doesn't scream Government intervention required, I don't know what does

Moving the goal posts for the big clubs so they don't have to go through a lengthy ffp breach case nice 🤦🏻

So get rid of it in time so it won't possibly affect bigger teams ?

There is a very simple solution. Each club can spend whatever they want on transfers, players' wages, etc. The catch is the weekly wages of each team's starting XI cannot exceed a certain agreed upon number. This will also prevent rich clubs from hoarding top players earning top salaries since you cannot field them together on matchday.

It's being scrapped because it's now affecting Utd, that's it. They and liverpool invented the rules through Parry and Gill but because utd are so bad it's constricting them. So their lap dogs at the Pl change the rules. It's a cartel and 15 PL clubs just accept it and blame City. It's mad how some fans just blame City while 2 or 3 clubs just change rules to suit themselves. Don't worry though, Carragher and Neville will be along to tell you it's the right thing to do.

@jonodunn2592

10 күн бұрын

How is it restricting Man Utd they still have one of the biggest turnovers in world football

@creepingbrain

9 күн бұрын

The PL regs don't affect MUFC at all. MUFC, and all teams that play in Europe, have to comply with the stricter UEFA regs with a squad cost control ratio of 70% and allowed losses of €5m per year. No, it's not the big clubs voting through these PL rules. It was a unanimous vote. Every PL club voted in favour of them.

Kaveh is so good at explaining football rules

Whatever rules they’ll introduce the clubs with the mega budgets will get around it. There’s too much money in the PL. The PL itself is not going to limit itself on how much revenue they get from the clubs. It’s all conjecture .

Whatever they replace PSR with I bet the top 6 are still given an advantage over the rest of the teams.

what is happening with manchester city and leicester city?

a fixed salary cap is either never going to happen. Or if it does, it will be at Chelsea/Man City wage bill levels and it will be completely irrelevant for 75% of the league. The enforcement/penalties for the PROFITABILITY and SUSTAINABILITY ruleset need to be limited to PROFITABILITY and SUSTAINABILITY. For example, the penalty should be something like restricted transfer budget, transfer window ban, wage increase restriction, wage reduction mandate, etc The penalties should absolutely NOT take points away from a club. These types of penalties do nothing to promote PROFITABILITY and SUSTAINABILITY. In fact, they could end up directly causing the exact opposite effect if the result is relegation to a club that would have otherwise avoided relegation. I can't think of anything more detrimental to a Premier League club's PROFITABILITY and SUSTAINABILITY than relegation.

@mrgzola25

9 күн бұрын

You mean man u and Arsenal yeah?

@TheDonDCAC

8 күн бұрын

@@mrgzola25 that's what you took out of my comment? Yea sure, them too. Feel better?

Then why have PSR next season? It's an exercise in futility.

Surely the big problem facing any EPL rules is that clubs play in England and Europe. Any of these suggested rules will make English clubs uncompetitive in Europe. Salary caps only work with comps like the NFL, NBA, NRL (in Australia) because all games played by the teams are in that competition. If you set rules for all of Europe, you'll create greater spending differences within some countries. And any effort to substantially reduce all player costs will just see players begging poor and going on strike. I just think it is so difficult to structure a system that works.

PSR in theory is fine, not perfect but the concept is sound. Problem is the rules themselves havent been updated to reflect transfer fee inflation, wage growth etc so the £35m per season would have been more sensible in 2018 or whenever it was conceived but in 2024 £35m hardly buys a squad player.

Why is the premier league so focused on money and not their wanky VAR?

@ThePerks2010

10 күн бұрын

Var lines the league administrators pockets, clubs losing money means they miss out too, nothing but corporate greed essentially.

@leo20865

9 күн бұрын

Var is not the premier league dick head

What's Bournemouths revenue What's Manchester city's revenue I wonder who it's going to benefit out of the 2 clubs that seems fair and equal

@alone2break

10 күн бұрын

The mid clubs will benefit from it as they might be on the same financial power as the top clubs..

@gustaaf1892

10 күн бұрын

Are you asking about City's real or reported revenue? Big difference between the two.

anything but cities charges

People need to remember we are not Americans

So will the new rules be punished with points deductions for breaching these new rules or will it all be just financial penalties and a fine just become part of the transfer cost?

Squad Cost Control Rules. What a joke

To reinforce the glass ceiling futher

La Liga and Ligue 1 will love this. Just make Real and Barca and PSG stronger even Bayern. As they can offer better contracts and the prem will lose its mojo and make all the other leagues stronger.

There should be a world wide cap of 350k and a minimum of 50k it would take away the money issues most teams have when it comes to buying players and more than likely players would go where they want not where had more money

@mothedon202

9 күн бұрын

Every league has a right to decide we live in a free market world!

Whys it taking so long to charge Citee 😮

If the top 6 dont think its fair, why dont they just level the tv money across the league then it makes it fair for everyone..? No chance of that though 😂

The high you are in the league you have less percentage to spend on your income. The lower leagues have more percentage than the top leagues to spend on their income on players

Get rid of VAR until you get fully automated offsides

Kaveh has not read UEFA's rules. Squad Cost includes: Amortisation. Agents Fees. Manager's Salary. Any fees for a manager. Team's salary. Minus transfer fees in.

@albertbrammer9263

9 күн бұрын

Plus, if you want to play in UEFA competition you have to meet 70% and not 85%, with maximum loss per year of €20m (ie being above 70%).

Kaveh, the king of "talk a lot," but says little 😂

They should limit the amount of foreign players in each squad . Look after ur own

sounds like they’re stopping english clubs competing with euro clubs. why not just let clubs who can afford it invest and for every 10mil they spend over a certain amount they have to put 1mil in a pot and it gets sent down to lower leagues and spread between those clubs. that way it allows clubs who have money to burn to build thier club but they help the lower down clubs also.

What happened to 85% of Rev for clubs in Europe and 100% for all other clubs?

Why not the bigger your debt the less you can spend. I don’t think spurs or Man U are likely to vote for that

If they don’t punish City or Chelsea after they change the rules then shouldn’t Everton and Forest get their points back

Hope Everton and Notts Forest sue them for millions. Rules for the 14 but not the 6.

115 CHARGE ?

Manchester city 115

And what about City who inflate their revenue figures. No way a team with next to no fanbase domestic or foreign (except arab world) generates what they do in revenue.

EPL wholly corrupt to the core. All these rules should be made by an independent body with no connections to the EPL or FA. The top clubs should not be making the rules that benefit them. Football is in the gutter with fans being hoodwinked and ripped off

They can't have it both ways. Otherwise award more points to teams with lower squad costs for every win and draw against bigger squad cost teams.

Curious about a tax related to over-spending rich clubs to subsidize poorer clubs. The share portion would be distributed based on league position. Divide the table into 4ths. Bottom half brackets split 60% of the tax. Top half brackets split 40% of the tax.

@stephenparker5421

6 күн бұрын

So then teams with nothing to play for tank games to get in the bottom half of the table toward the end of the season? Think it through a bit

@eggsII

6 күн бұрын

@@stephenparker5421thanks for the suggestion. This concept is used in other sports leagues. Not suggesting that mine is the ultimate solution. Important to note that having the bottom three relegated to a league that produces less revenue is a strong disincentive to “tank”.

Just come up with a figure say 250 million per year no club could spend more than that per year on transfers would be fair

How would you know the bottom side?

This is the dumbest thing I've heard. Make it a hard cap like in North American sports, with a min amount and a max amount. Also should abolish transfer fees, feels a lot like slavery, at this point seems like its being used to launder money.

salary caps are a stupid idea and a gift to those joke leagues in the US and Saudi. the PSR rules were fine they just needed to index the loss amount to inflation instead of having it set, which was plainly idiotic from the start.

Complete rubbish, how can a club lose money and be sustainable? Agents fees, shocking!!! The whole system is broken. Modern football