I say what makes the Injustice Joker such a evil geniu was not just the fact he killed Lois and the people of Metropolis, but he did by manipulating Superman. Even though it was Joker who tricked him, Superman blames himself for falling in the clown's trap. This is why Injustice Superman is so stubborn, always claiming that he "perfect the world" and refuses to take responsability for his actions, because if he did then he would have to recognize that it was all his fault again, that he still flawed hero who was tricked by a villain.

@magnusm4

3 ай бұрын

He couldn't admit being a flawed hero so he became the perfect villain.

For me the best version of the Joker is one who doesn't care if he lives or dies, he just wants to leave an impression that will last forever and have the best of laughs doing it.

Part of the reason it was so easy for Joker to trick Superman is in part because this version of Clark never had to deal with Lex Luthor.

@Historyfan476AD

3 ай бұрын

That is a good point actually, since he never had to compete with Lex he never had to deal with underhanded and dirty plans like Lex pulls in the normal superman stories.

@Blopusanian

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@Historyfan476ADI could definitely see a more experienced Superman recognizing the Doomsday illusion as Lois.

@Historyfan476AD

3 ай бұрын

@@Blopusanian Possibly, but Doomsday is not someone you sit around and wait to find out with. Got to remember in the scenario, Clark thought Doomsday was right there next to Lois and so he instinctively launched the beast into space. I can understand the actions he took and why.

@Blopusanian

3 ай бұрын

​@@Historyfan476AD I was thinking maybe in some scenario he'd realize there in a sub and if Doomsday showed up water should be getting in and there should be an entrance hole. You're right though he panicked because of how close Lois was he wasn't gonna risk waiting.

@cadeshanley218

2 ай бұрын

What about Darkseid.

"The decision IS mine! It became mine when Joker turned me into a weapon of mass destruction!" "Crime took my family too, Clark." "But YOU weren't the gun!"

I just realize something , joker could not survive the marvel universe 💀

@The_jesters_house

3 ай бұрын

I mean maybe if he stuck to screwing with only spiderman... maybe... .............there's a non zero chance

@Lord-Regent-of-the-Imperium

3 ай бұрын

Bro, we all know what would happen if the Joker fought spidey Looks at Terry

@user-lp8im7ow8s

3 ай бұрын

He does fine.

@R3CKLESSPARADISE

3 ай бұрын

@@The_jesters_housebruh spider man can’t handle joker mentally

@willnelson4192

3 ай бұрын

How about Joker and Daredevil ?

im the Jonkler baby -The Jonkler justice 1.5

@Godilla54

3 ай бұрын

I like Man more

@BIGBRITISHBLOKE

3 ай бұрын

@@Godilla54 didnt man die in the hit new game "squad kill league?"

@veryveryindecisive

3 ай бұрын

Is there a lore reason why Jonkler is mentioned in Tube comment sections? Is he omnipresent?

@Godilla54

3 ай бұрын

@@veryveryindecisive Are you stupid? He is here for man!

@suapanpina

3 ай бұрын

​@@veryveryindecisiveYes.

That joker scream gets me every time. It is so bone chilling...

Injustice year 2 (comic) is where Joker's plan shines. Jebus things go crazy.

I feel in those moment, Joker went from just an evil genius to a full blown terrorist, so he really needed to be put down after this. Not just he killed Lois and her unborn child, but he nuked all of Metropolis, killing millions. That has to count as terrorism, so Superman was completely right in killing him, everything afterwards however is much of a gray area

@joaoalves9330

2 ай бұрын

Idk about gray area. Superman tried to kill several cities worth of civilians so as to make an example to the rest of his absolute power. In terms of overall damage done I’d say Superman became worse than the Joker

@Chaser547

Ай бұрын

That first part is the hilarious irony of it: Joker would have gotten sentenced to death this time. An attack on a city as big as Metropolis with a nuclear weapon is one thing insanity would not have saved him from and he knew it. That's why Joker kept pushing the buttons on his next weapon of mass destruction, a grieving and understandably angry super powered alien who with the right motivation could immortalize him as well as showing that world can truly be just one bad day away from his side of things.

A note about injustice is that, by all metrics, Joker one. He proved his "one bad day" philosophy. One bad enough day can make anyone as evil as he is, and they may not even know it

@0:57 i agree joker 100% got what he had coming for sure. like i've said in prior videos batman's no killing rule needs to be enforced lest injustice happen again, or darkest knight or whatever hellscape. but their ARE expectations to this. one example is joker, he had numerous AND I DO MEAN NUMEROUS attempt's by bruce wayne, batman and the government to rehab him. after about the 10th time of splashing acid on a persons face or blowing up the city it doesn't matter what batman does he should have been hung. like give people 3rd and 4th and even 5th chances, but once you reach the point of repetition that you can predict the DAY joker is gunna do something then he should be hung or something. like plastic man says best "i used to be a villian and sometimes i needed 4th 5th or even 6ths chances to change and batman stuck his neck out for me, now im a hero thanks to him helping me." once joker left the city he should have been put down by the gcpd.

@BetterCallPapyrus

3 ай бұрын

like i said the heroes shouldn't HAVE to get to the point they break thats where the justice system comes in. and gotham is riddled with holes in it.

@BetterCallPapyrus

3 ай бұрын

the heroes are meant for global crisis, or things to dangerous for normal cops to handle without specialize equipment. heroes are NOT a replacement for law enforcement they are there to help the law not enforce it. [well expect batman but his city is so bad they have a fund FOR the rich to get richer off of batman]

@user-lp8im7ow8s

3 ай бұрын

Batman has tried to kill Joker MULTIPLE TIMES and Joker lived Joker is simply not easy to kill. Also just so you know, he WANTED to die in Superman's hands

@IceCold_Carter

3 ай бұрын

I think certain heroes should just kill bc they are use it like WW…she’s literally a warrior

The Joker in Injustice is straight-up the only winner in the whole story. He proved the point he's been on about since The Killing Joke: that all it takes to turn a good person into a monster is one bad bay. All he had to do was do it to Superman rather than Batman.

Joker had already tricked Superman into killing Lois, their child, and Metropolis. So that line was already broken way before he snapped the Clown's neck, hence Superman already believed that he had crossed a line of no return. Let's be honest, who would live with such a burden? Killing your loved ones and your home simultaneously? Barely anyone. If it was Lex Luthor who did this to Batman, tricking him into killing Alfred and blowing up Gotham, it would be far-fetched to say that Batman would just let that slide. He'd either bury Lex ten feet under, or put him somewhere where he will never get out, and suffer immensely, maybe Batman becomes a villain but his no-kill rule is still there, but it's been twisted into something perverted: Punishment and imprisonment without rehabilitation. His reason for sparing villains would change, and it'd no longer be about hope or mercy. After all, Injustice Batman has already proven that a villain can be a villain without killing people. Imagine Injustice Batman but he's the one that goes off the rails, but in the complete opposite direction to Genocidal, Regime Superman. I think if Bruce were to ever kill, he'd double down on his beliefs, in a manically, obsessive, and unhealthy way.

@DisKorruptd

3 ай бұрын

for the death of Alfred scenario, see: Murder Machine, AKA Bruce Wayne from Earth -44

@avationmusic

3 ай бұрын

@@DisKorruptdoof that one is chilling

@MrKingJson

2 ай бұрын

FYI, he didn't break Joker's neck. He disemboweled him.

@ziephel-6780

2 ай бұрын

@@MrKingJson Ah right. I was thinking of Lex Luthor then

The Joker is indeed a Sadistic Genius... 😈

From Batman the Brave and the Bold Joker: Im Crazy not Stupid

Do a video on Injustice Wonder Woman.

@ComicCasualVideos

3 ай бұрын

Already in the works!!! Thanks for the support!

Joker: I have this nuke. Superman: Don't you dare blow up my city. Joker:I won't. But you will.

Interesting Video Bro!

This was a Fascinating Case Study of the Joker who Proved himself to be a Sadistic Genius who Broke Superman into Tyrannical Insanity! What a Fantastic Video!

Let's goooo

If you remember the Justice League and the animated series called Superman, everything was always easy for the man of steel that he rarely or never fails. That Superman's job is set to Easy Mode. Now when you look at Batman's, you understand that everything is a challenge. Everything is always on hard mode. So like a professional expert gamer, Batman knows how to handle the joker on hard mode but also batman has has failed before he's failed multiple times But despite his failures he has an understand that if he falls due to his failures twelve years he will become something worse then a fallen superman

I guess in way you can say after the joker died so did Clark, and so Kal el was reborn

@IceCold_Carter

3 ай бұрын

*when Lois died, he died

He was a SUICIDAL sadistic genius. He deliberately goaded Superman into putting his fist through Joker's chest.

The Clown Prince of Crime broke The Man of Steel in one day

@MrLim-wq2gn

Ай бұрын

All it takes is one bad day.

cool

I know I seem like an asshole for mentioning this, but it's scarecrow's fear gas instead of Joker's fear gas. I'm pretty sure in Dark Knights Metal though, he DID get infected with the Joker gas, which made him pretty crazy

@ComicCasualVideos

3 ай бұрын

Yeah my bad, I fluffed up a lil there

@thatoneguy4201

3 ай бұрын

@@ComicCasualVideos Nah its fine, sick video tho

@DisKorruptd

3 ай бұрын

Tbh, The Bat who Laughs is weaker than Arkhamverse Batman, AVB resisted being titaned, and held off the Joker blood, which was injected directly into him. even when the Joker took the wheel, Bats still managed to regain control (admittedly, after the Joker got a healthy does of fear toxin) TBWL got one little dose of Joker gas and turned into the joker real quick, from a gas form.

The Joker nine times out of ten, will do something just to get Batman's attention. His motivation on various levels is to bring down the "immovable object" that is Batman; it's why Batman is so strongly against killing, (the whole "we're not judged, jury, executioner" thing aside); he knows that snuffing Joker out is exactly what he wants, to bring him down to his level. And that's why he won't; the fun the Joker has is thinking of ways to push Batman over the edge. The only other time I've seen Joker go up against Superman was in the DCAU "World's Finest" where he offered to do it just so Lex Luthor would pay him, and to his credit, it didn't take much to outsmart Superman. I love Supe as much as Bats or any other DC character, but he does tend to let his powers go to his head and underestimate his opponents a lot, in a variety of incarnations. He's so used to having to deal with (mostly) brawny or "sane" intelligent threats that when he has to deal with someone a bit more unpredictable, he crumbles, and it's why the Joker doesn't see him as a threat and why it was so easy in Injustice to rile him up and tear down the "symbol of Justice" to his level. He died laughting because, despite not being around to see it, he knows won.

@Historyfan476AD

3 ай бұрын

Darksied, Brainiac, lex Luthor all very smart people, easily above Joker. Superman ain't dumb at all.

@Jota_Aniki

2 ай бұрын

@@Historyfan476AD Don't think i said Superman was dumb, i said hes used to dealing with "sane" intelligent threats

@Jota_Aniki

2 ай бұрын

@IceGodzilla619 Why is it a red flag? Yea in the DCAU he mocked and underestimated the Joker and each time it ended badly for him, it showed Superman to have a flaw and that someone like the Joker can take adventage of that and knock him down for it. How is it a better story that a hero laughs in the villains face and that makes him never want to comes back. If anything, that would make the Joker get upset and want to make Superman's life a living hell.

@Historyfan476AD

2 ай бұрын

@@Jota_Aniki Calling Lex or Darksied 'Sane' is very hard.

I only just realized this but, if Jokers nuke succeeded in the normal timeline, then Batman, Barry, etc pretty much everyone but Wonder Woman (I assume she can tank a nuke), Superman and, maybe Hal would be dead. Which would lead to a completely different outcome than the Injustice timeline

The joker is the poster child for the old phrase genuis and madness are opposite sides of the same coin

The punisher said it best your just one bad day from becoming like him

Pretty sure Satan would even bow to The Joker for this whole plot.

Superman has killed before, that wasn't a loss, you're correct about Superman's other actions allowing Joker to win by being remembered forever though. If Injustice Superman had stopped at killing the Joker, most people wouldn't have cared, and the Joker would have been forgotten eventually. To gain complete victory Injustice Superman should have sent Joker to the phantom zone, Joker couldn't hurt anyone there or die, everyone would eventually forget Joker, while Superman would be remembered forever. Just for the icing on the cake Superman, who will live an extremely long time, could pull Joker out of the phantom zone and show him that the world has moved on from him, before shoving him back into the zone.

All it takes is just 1 bad day & joker was right

I slightly disagree on the joker's intellect Because there have been others who have made Similar plans against the man of steel lex luther, Parasite, Zod, And savage. Some of them have succeeded in their plans. They have gotten the same results Luther kills the flash justice lords. Parasite kills Jimmy, you get Dictator superman. General zod kills Superman's parents. You get another dictator superman. Even when Superman fails. He falls so easily to crossing that line. So no, the joke is not a genius.It's just too easy to get the man of steel to fall

Why no body puts joker in the phantom zone 😂

I feel like Joker wouldn't survive for more than a few weeks in marvel, marvel characters are a lot more human emotionally most would crack like superman and kill him

The more you see the story itself the more you realize the story is basically two tyrants with different extreme values. Batman believes in sparing lives to the point of harming more than he helps. Superman kills indiscriminately and over the slightest transgressions. It's honestly Injustice's biggest flaws as a story, they're both at such rediculous extremes after what the Joker just did you end up not siding with either of them.

Why Batman vs. Joker was Hard mode... OK. Why Batman vs. Darkside is not even a competition? This can easily be turned around if one tries. Yes you could say Batman shot Darkside once with a Radion bullet and so on, find the exceptions, the same goes the other direction. When Superman humiliated the Joker, then went to Batman, told him that he knew this was "his" test, Batman said that Superman failed the test, but Superman said that human lives are not a "test", and if this happens again and Batman does not take care of "his" monsters, he will. So in the main continuity, or some branch of it, both of them can beat each other's villians (and good writing). But without prep time or research, which is the only way Batman can beat anyone and how the Joker beat Injustice Superman, well, what would Bats do against Darkside. Harsh language? Without Superman in most stories, Darkside destroys Earth's defences, Batman included.

@DisKorruptd

3 ай бұрын

Bats has previously dodged an omega beam (by throwing a parademon in the way)

@jasontodd8296

3 ай бұрын

@@DisKorruptd The animated JU, I know. Plot armour. You found "the exception." GJ.

It is extremely disturbing that this version of the Joker effectively destroyed the world.