Petition to put Matt pat in the evil villain pub ⬇️

@BootupProcess

4 жыл бұрын

You, my good lad, are supporting a good cause.

@sussyratplayermuchamong3659

4 жыл бұрын

I second that good sir!

@eldiablo6374

4 жыл бұрын

He should go there

@junefall4189

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao pinned

@TheG_Boy

4 жыл бұрын

Ooooh doubling the cringe ? I like that !

The scene that Joker was clapping after hearing that Gordon is the new commissioner makes more sense now

@burjaman11

4 жыл бұрын

and that scene was improvised by Ledger

@lensnomad2190

4 жыл бұрын

@@burjaman11 oh! Interesting. How do you know that? 👀

@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong

4 жыл бұрын

More likely it was just him mocking him...

@mobilemonkey503

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, and to think that scene was improvised by one of my favorite actors

@roaringthunder115

4 жыл бұрын

Wow

either die a villian, or live long enough for matpat to make you a hero

@andrelintner9150

3 жыл бұрын

He died a villain :(

@mihirbiswas8884

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrelintner9150 but lived long enough in our hearts to become a so called "hero"

@goji-0045

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrelintner9150 wait? Joker died?

@neonsky77

3 жыл бұрын

@@goji-0045 yep

@syn_2529

3 жыл бұрын

@@neonsky77 not permanently

Joker : "Gasolines are cheap" People in 2022 : "Nice joke buddy"

@silvertigerhd7401

Жыл бұрын

No, people say, "And I thought my jokes were bad"

@prayasdash

Жыл бұрын

At least cheaper than guns and bullets

@JohnathanBlades

Жыл бұрын

That is not exactly the line

@hoovyandpoland

Жыл бұрын

After all, he is a "joke"r

@puffygasp3982

Жыл бұрын

"Yeah thats a good one buddy, no wonder why they call you The Joker."

"To defeat evil, I must become a greater evil" -Lelouch vi Britannia the joker took this very seriously

@John2r1

2 жыл бұрын

Considering the jokers scars are likely a result of combat. Not because of a drunk father or self inflicted for his wife. His ability to tactically plan out operations , knowledge with weapons , explosives and ability to drive a large truck which requires experience and normally a CDL to be capable of . All points to a veteran who came home to find his home being controlled by thugs and mobsters with corrupt officials turning a blind eye to the problems. His wife he speaks of likely killed herself or was killed for outstanding debts to the scum of Gotham. That is likely what set an otherwise peaceful veteran off. And created this version of the joker. As he seems to have nothing but hate and disdain for thugs and mobsters . His actions show this throughout the movie.

@Toxic_Dominat810

11 ай бұрын

​@@John2r1I like that theory

@Ad-fu6tj

8 ай бұрын

Why so serious?

@Dabis_adopted_daughter

6 ай бұрын

Haha

@Dabis_adopted_daughter

6 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

This reminds me of a African proverb I read about once: "Until lions have their own historians, the hunter will always be the hero of the story"

@darklord884

4 жыл бұрын

So the Joker is a lion now? Call MatPat, that's going to be his next theory!

@atmo-sphere6799

4 жыл бұрын

@Thomas Emilio *and

@W.S._Ortega

4 жыл бұрын

Oswin Benjamin said this line but slightly different in a freestyle on Sway In the Morning. "Until lions learn to write from their own perspective, every story told will be glorifying the hunter". Preach.

@RapOperaCentral

4 жыл бұрын

@@W.S._Ortega Damn! Mad props to you for referencing Sway in the Morning while on this channel.

@diegocaceres7884

4 жыл бұрын

This is weird, we don't like hunters anymore, so are we lion historians now?

“You’re killing millions...” “... to save billions.” -Ozamandias

@lungaville1219

4 жыл бұрын

Evan James *Laughs in Pharaoh*

@stevekujo8716

4 жыл бұрын

DAJA KU

@fernandocervantes6074

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevekujo8716 with Dio voice insert as well.

@JT044-iz1cv

4 жыл бұрын

Perfectly balenced...As all things should be.

@Psalm_23

4 жыл бұрын

@JusticeGraceful its Rorschach not warshack

The Dark Knight got me thinking about how values alone shouldn’t define people. I noticed that The Joker achieved things that I strive for. He let go of vices, lives in the moment and doesn’t expect a reward. However, he twisted those values into something horrifying. ‬

@meilaoshi9439

6 ай бұрын

“Let go of vices”? He murdered a LOT of people, can’t get any more full of vice than that.

@delanovanraalte3646

6 ай бұрын

if you dont know someone's intent look at the aftermath of his actions

The whole ‘agent of chaos’ thing could be the joker making the metaphors that there has to be a bit of chaos before there can be order, it creates a balance.

@adad87821

2 жыл бұрын

true and in fact joker did save gotham in the end think about it no corruption no orginzied crime for 8 years till bane shows up so yeah i do belive joker is actually the hero in a messed up but good way

@zeryuouros4411

Жыл бұрын

Or maybe, the word "Agent of Chaos" here means Joker was created by the chaos that Batman created and he is here for one mission, to restore balance onto the city.

@thibvp778

Жыл бұрын

order in chaos

@Ordinaloutcast

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

If MatPat was The Joker’s defense lawyers Joker probably wouldn’t have had a life sentence lol

@omgitsalia8919

3 жыл бұрын

But I mean he would probably be charged with 2 first degree murder and attempted murder and probably more that I dont remember

@Aegon1

3 жыл бұрын

omg its alia add arson and technically being a mob boss

@omgitsalia8919

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that to and a bank robbery

@anarchomando7707

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no that man was still be going to the electric chair No wait I truly think it'll be decapitation (from a holy blade such as Wonder Woman's) then burning of the body would And throwing the ashes into space work

@omgitsalia8919

3 жыл бұрын

@Juggled Lotus lol

Alfred: some men just wanna watch the world burn Also Alfred: we burned the forest down

@PoeticSonic

4 жыл бұрын

Duh, obviously he was talking about himself....I bet he did so many bad shit in his service that he makes pain look like a better boy scout than superman.

@Gavirael

4 жыл бұрын

Music Sucks You got a point there.

@100Mmore

4 жыл бұрын

never thought of that

@chonkyboi7542

4 жыл бұрын

Trying to tell him what he was going to have to do to catch joker.

@musicsucks5843

4 жыл бұрын

@@chonkyboi7542 burning down a forest to catch a jewel thief. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

14:20 The BEST Line“We can’t SEE ourselves as the VILLAIN if we think we are the hero”

“How about I cut you up into little pieces and feed you to your pooches. Then we’ll see how loyal a hungry dog really is” This one quote can perfectly describe the message Joker was trying to convey upon Gotham through the whole movie.

@WynneL

3 ай бұрын

Funny thing is, I've read that dogs will wait longer to eat their dead owners if starving than cats will.

@lordlofty9689

Күн бұрын

@@WynneL not tf if they're cut up 💀💀💀💀

“You can’t see yourself as a villain when you think you’re the hero”👏🏽

@stateofopportunity1286

3 жыл бұрын

This explains both Republicans and Democrats perfectly.

@newportreds6710

3 жыл бұрын

State of Opportunity facts

@TheMariusDarkwolf

3 жыл бұрын

Almost nobody sees themselves as the villain of the story

@beasbiswas90

3 жыл бұрын

Simple, Be an anti-hero

@lucanovellino1010

3 жыл бұрын

That's why I don't like shows or movies where they think they are evil. Nobody thinks they are evil. Others may think it ab them, but they see themselves and what they're doing as heroic

Also keep in mind the Joker could have blown up that hospital when everyone was still inside it but instead gave everyone a chance to get out first.

@guythat779

4 жыл бұрын

Tbf he likes the chaos, not the attacks And it was incentive for the ppl to try and kill a guy

@2raw328

4 жыл бұрын

Gabriel Jordan he wanted Harvey dent alone

@jasonleslie203

4 жыл бұрын

He wanted/needed to get harvey dent alone so he could manipulate him,like he was trying to do to batman

@velocityx2364

4 жыл бұрын

Gabriel Jordan sadly

@nickolasbrown3342

4 жыл бұрын

@Wily Wyvern // Metal Dragon Productions how do you know he was gonna blow up the ships? Because he said so? HAS THIS THEORY TAUGHT YOU NOTHING?!

Well this just makes so much sense and gives me even more reason to love the joker as a “villain”. These kind of superhero stories have always irritated me in that the “hero” spends their time fighting crime and putting the bad guys in jail when there’s generally a much larger underlying reason for such crime in the first place. They have all of the resources and means to be able to eradicate crime from the bottom up but get fixated on the more surface level petty crimes that they don’t see the big picture. This take on the story where the joker is actually the “hero” perfectly reflects a lot of the pretences and issues in our society. Also, it totally makes sense to call the joker a consequentialist in his beliefs rather than just a crazy man who’s sole goal is chaos (though there’s no denying that he isn’t entirely sane). We even studied scenes of this film when doing a lesson about utilitarianism is religious studies.

Love the way you described Batman... "A lunatic in a ninja costume that jumps off roof tops..."

Joker's cruelest joke... "I'm gonna make this pencil disappear...."

@robertbaur3145

4 жыл бұрын

hes a pencil pusher quite the brain teaser

@wisdommapping9406

4 жыл бұрын

Tada!

@acdexter3219

4 жыл бұрын

@@wisdommapping9406 Its, ah, its gone.

@youngefaucet2713

4 жыл бұрын

I remember that part

@limeangelo6019

4 жыл бұрын

Im gonna make this minority disappear

“Very sophisticated plans” *plays clip of joker in a dress*

@colbyberggren3577

3 жыл бұрын

I read this just as he said it

@ladymercy5275

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine a sophisticated A.I. forecasting system that's connected to swaths of personal data and financial records. You ask it to solve a problem that nobody's been able to so far, like 'saving Gotham' or whatever. What do you think the probability is that it would suggest a plan of action that wasn't so completely bonkers that nobody's tried it, before? If anything, what we've learned here is that nurse cosplay is an undeniable force to be reckoned with. Alternating between that and evil clown make-up just kicks it up to 11.

@vasanthaarun8602

3 жыл бұрын

Colby Berggren same

@Vivigreeny25

3 жыл бұрын

*He's s o p h i s t i c a t e d*

@KiffKan

3 жыл бұрын

@@ladymercy5275 you have WAY too much time on your hand

This makes the sentence " *sometimes u have to be the villain to be a hero* " to a whole new lvl

exactly, Joker is not an agent of chaos or even "not afraid of death" he just wants others to think that he is. This is how he is able to get out of the mob meeting because everyone there thinks that Joker is crazy and will not mind killing himself with them. He created a reputation for himself so everyone thinks of him a certain way to distract from his actual plan (First impression is the last impression). People to label things a certain way so as to not spend mental energy thinking about it, and everyone thinks of Joker as the crazy person who is just doing it for the lols (what Alfred and Bruce think of Joker) and because of this categorization he never acts the way people expects him to, he seems chaotic.

"In my years of fighting crime l learned one thing. Every villain is a hero in their own story..." - Bruce Wayne in Injustice 2

@fearless4him595

4 жыл бұрын

VampRune Dude, I love the Injustice Storyline.

@FutureDeep

4 жыл бұрын

They're also a cowardly and superstitious lot.

@bryantamon8633

4 жыл бұрын

@@FutureDeep or are they? Its all about perspective after all. You may see one thing but others may see something else.

@dillongaddis1436

4 жыл бұрын

@@bryantamon8633 🤯

@Cosmalano

4 жыл бұрын

So he’s saying he knows he’s the villain. Maybe in a broader sense the Joker really is just an extremely ill man and Batman can’t kill him because he’s morally opposed to killing an ill person, but no effort to lock him up works, and this quote is his acknowledgment that he’s the villain because he’d rather save his own conscious by not killing the Joker, which thereby allows many people to get hurt as a result.

I see Batman like that guy who wants to keep his job and just fix certain things slowly, while Joker is that guy who doesn't care about keeping his job he just wants to see the whole system revamped

@insupportofjunhado

3 жыл бұрын

So Alex Shelley is Batman, Joker is Joey Matthews and Gotham is RoH.

@lelouchvibritannia4028

3 жыл бұрын

In Code Geass, Suzaku is Batman while Lelouch is Joker.

@marquisondeck1341

3 жыл бұрын

Literally me at my job

@gv1685

3 жыл бұрын

Slow and steady wins the race(?)

@senkkella7664

3 жыл бұрын

@@gv1685 nah

“You ever die a hero, or live to see yourself turn into a villain.” -Harvey Dent He warned us at the beginning of the movie of this.

We definitely need a deeper dive into the dialogue used in this movie as well. I know a good portion was already explained, but I do feel like there's more to be discussed. I love watching this movie even more now because I finally have 4k resolution and I did see The Dark Knight in theatres in the IMAX Experience which was incredible to say the least

That Alfred in Burma bribing leaders had always went over my mind, so clear now... WoW

@reconx86

3 жыл бұрын

I always thought it was cruel, but I never gave it deep thought as these guys did.

@royanque8374

3 жыл бұрын

How DID they catch the Joker? By using that Bat echolocator. I thought that was the "burn the forest" thing. But the Joker "stealing" the Mafia money so they can no longer bribe/control the Gotham justice system... Quite spot on. But HEY...

@edp-gb6yz

3 жыл бұрын

wait what????

@edp-gb6yz

3 жыл бұрын

@@reconx86 pls explain

@reconx86

3 жыл бұрын

@@edp-gb6yz Alfred is the real villian in his own story @12:11

I think you missed the most important part. The Ferries, i think that was the ultimate test for Joker to see if the city was worth saving. If either ferry blew up, it meant the people of Gotham had been corrupted and Joker would've probably given up and let Batman take him into custody with Harvey killing Gordon's family and effectively plunging the city into chaos. Joker let Batman know because the ferries reaffirmed the idea the city could be fixed. Like in Joker's "Everybody loses there minds" speech the idea is that Gotham should fundamentally realize the weight of every single life, from the gang bangers to soldiers. The message in the ferry scene is that the lives aboard are equal regardless if your a petty criminal or a scared civilian. The Joker's line about liking knifes because it allows the Joker to be more intimate with his victim then a gun, he understands the purpose and weight of every single murder he commits.

@polishdumpling7209

3 жыл бұрын

😶😶😶👏👏👏

@himynameiskobey.7994

3 жыл бұрын

I have no words...

@Bradley_Dragon

3 жыл бұрын

@Acid gameplay eh he wanted to rile up the batman. thats why he said it and made sure bat heard it. if he wanted to actually blow both up he had PLENTY of time.

@prabhnoorhans9765

3 жыл бұрын

That's just smart.

@TheKarmak

3 жыл бұрын

The Joker's joke was on society. What he wanted was proof that everyone can be a murderer and psychopath like he is. And when that didn't work, he told batman about harvey dent, because he knew if he could have gotham, he'd have at least batman. The Joker is not a hero, not even an anti-hero. He accidentally saved a city when he tried to destroy it, all because he thought it would be a funny joke. THAT is the Joker.

The money burning scene, the thing that made me realize how crazy Joker was was when he said "gas is cheap" at a time when gas was at it's most expensive ever and everyone was talking about how expensive gas was.

Nolan did infact give us the most realistic batman ever. It showed us that dressing as a bat and running over rooftops is not the solution.

Think of Joker as Gotham’s fever. When you’re sick your body “torments” you with symptoms to expel sickness. Joker tormented Gotham to expel crime

@vergilonachair4487

3 жыл бұрын

Wow. That's. Impressive! Good job

@cedriclee7110

3 жыл бұрын

simpler solution is more cow bells.

@Dinosaurianationazation

3 жыл бұрын

At least the villian of the Dark Knight wasn't Light Yagami, or any of the other Kiras from Death Note. Things would have gone WAAAYYY worse!

@soulkarver956

3 жыл бұрын

@@cedriclee7110 Yeah. Raw cowbell gets the job done.

@anonco1907

3 жыл бұрын

@Smirking Loli True but I think the point is that the end result is better than before.

“Fine I’ll do it myself” -Joker

@alexisgarcia-pl5on

4 жыл бұрын

justin kongolo speaking of wich you know how i got these scars? - joker

@captainahab2518

4 жыл бұрын

"but this, does put smile on my face" -Joker

@varunsvinu

4 жыл бұрын

Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru - Joker

@HeliosimWorld

4 жыл бұрын

"Persona!" -Joker

@mayabartholomew3402

4 жыл бұрын

Seems like somebody’s sharing Thanos’ family tree

This just makes me like heath ledgers Joker even more. Truly this trilogy was something else.

@adad87821

2 жыл бұрын

right?even the batman cant match up to the dark knight trilogy

He's not a monster. He's just ahead of the curve.

"i'm just ahead of the curve" - Joker

@golazo1266

4 жыл бұрын

He really wasn't kidding lols

@trollof229antthevariable9

4 жыл бұрын

Oh shiiit. 😂😂😂😅

@jiahajime5815

4 жыл бұрын

The fact that Batman hates a lot

@johntaylor8463

4 жыл бұрын

Aw for fuck sake, you lot will be pro Bateman soon enough

@NoCharName

3 жыл бұрын

I bet it was a bell curve.

"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." This really brings a new twist to that quote.

@TheAzraf123

4 жыл бұрын

oh boyyyy

@KingOfCatfish707

4 жыл бұрын

@Octopus Of the nine realms Batman "became a villain" at the end of the movie in order to preserve Harvey Dent/Two-Face's public image. But this video is basically implying that Batman had already become a villain - or at the very least, complicit in Gotham's corruption - without realizing it.

@KingOfCatfish707

4 жыл бұрын

@@DB-sd3cw I'm more of a soyboy tbh, but cuck works too.

@herpderpitypurple73

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah Game/Film Theory's like that

@fluffball6142

4 жыл бұрын

Joker is the reverse card of " you either die a hero. Or live long enough to see yourself become a villain". Joke is " you either die a villain . or live long enough to see yourself become a hero "

In my mind I assume joker died shortly after we last see him by cutting the string Batman had him hanging with and fell to his death because we don't see him in TDKR. He probably figured he had accomplished everything he tried too.

If a person is willing to sacrifice you, he’s the villain. If he’s willing to sacrifice himself, he’s the hero.

@Gacha_gays

11 ай бұрын

What if they're willing to sacrifice both?

@garymanz3403

11 ай бұрын

@@Gacha_gays then he’s Jim Jones

"Out of chaos comes order"- Nietzsche "I'm an agent of chaos"- Joker Well played sir

@darklord884

4 жыл бұрын

Are you implying that the Joker creates order by threatening civilian lives with bombs? Or by turning an actually righteous prosecutor insane?

@nuguns3766

4 жыл бұрын

@@darklord884 common enemy unites

@darklord884

4 жыл бұрын

@@nuguns3766 Did Hitler create order then? The danger he posed united the allies after all, no?

@jefftag3099

4 жыл бұрын

Does this mean you fight fire with fire?????🤔

@sorenkarlesson5736

4 жыл бұрын

Jung: the fool is the precursor to the savior

“You’re crazy” “nO iM nOt”

@Cajek2

4 жыл бұрын

Batman is responsible for crime? Uh... I don't think he is. Those criminals are responsible.

@vampuricknight1

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cajek2 he's not responsible for the crime, only the escalation of it. Even in the comics whenever Batman's villains have a meet up they OFTEN talk about how the only reason they have gone as far with their evil plans is because batman pushed them to that degree of desperation. An example, at one point Mr. Freeze tried to freeze the world as part of a larger scheme... he stated he only attempted that because he knew batman would stop him (because deep down he knows the implication would be dire for humanity and he is not really a "bad guy morally") and that his "real goal" was just to secure stolen funding/materials along the way to keep his wife alive... which he also accomplished. In that same comic poison ivy remarks that while she's tried multiple times to wipe out humanity to make room for her plants she'd ideally be willing to settle if humanity would just stop destroying the rain forests/polluting and allowed her to grow plants capable of defending themselves there. Since she knows batman will stop her anyway she feels pressured to step up her threats so that people take her message seriously should she ever HAPPEN to win.

@RunItsTheCat

4 жыл бұрын

OMO

@brody2090

4 жыл бұрын

Im just ahead of the curve

@angelmendez-rivera351

4 жыл бұрын

Cajek Batman is not responsible for crime, he is the incentive that drove crime, which is why his retirement was indeed the solution to crime in Gotham. I thought this was so obvious Film Theory would not ever find themselves covering this. I guess I was wrong. Regardless, that was kind of the entire point of not only Dark Knight, but Dark Knight Rises.

He isn't a monster, He's just ahead of the curve....

It makes so much sense what joker was trying to do. He was actually doing everyone a favor. He got rid of the mob and their money, got rid of the corrupted hierarchy, and broke Batman’s ideology. Batman was the cancer joker was trying to exterminate as prove that everyone can change no matter what you believe in or who you are. In the end they were all helping each other without knowing it.

Joker: *Kills thousands of people” Mat pat: Carefully he’s a hero

@Aryan_kakar_

4 жыл бұрын

Joker:*kills thousands of people to save millions of people* if want to have something you have to lose something and most of the people that were killed were bad people

@imperialguardsman135

4 жыл бұрын

@SILVI NUR FAJRIAH 2014 shut up bot

@expensive-brother

4 жыл бұрын

He killed dozens at most

@radioactivesupersavage3703

4 жыл бұрын

He is joker saved a lot of parents for paying child support thanks joker.👍

@lazyboi2373

4 жыл бұрын

Aryan Kakar joker was a manipulator. He lied about his past, his motives, not to mention trying to kill dents girlfriend without remorse. He clearly was a psychopath, but whether or not he was trying to save Gotham was debatable

One thing you should mention: The Joker also never revealed his intentions because he didn’t want people to follow his example.

@BBBHuey

4 жыл бұрын

And also to just f*** with them.

@am_connor4914

4 жыл бұрын

The commentator, i dont think anyone has mentioned the fact that joker even kills his own allies in the first scene of the movie. He kills criminals

@MrTheVadimpje

4 жыл бұрын

There is a second joker in that film ^^ his brother

The Joker in this is like a Nihilist with too much fire power. If you notice he has a pretty stable moral code that he sticks to, basically he thinks everyone is capable of the same evils and everyone is only one situation from doing unspeakable things i.e. the boat scene where they'd try to blow one up.

Slight problem, he explicitly says he only burned his half of the money. He didn't bankrupt the mafia, not even close. Also batman doesn't retire at the end of this film he retires at some other point within the eight years in between films, he's still clearly active at the end of the film.

@donjon9853

8 ай бұрын

Can you back up this idea of Batman continuing his activity after TDK?

@happytrails151

7 ай бұрын

He burned all of the money. That's the joke. The fire will just spread over the whole thing

To sum this up: "Just because you are bad guy, does not mean you are Bad Guy."

@pyro9251

4 жыл бұрын

Oof

@Plymouth_Belvedere

4 жыл бұрын

@unknowning unknown Just cause it's old doesnt mean it's not accurate to the character.

@AMcGrath82

4 жыл бұрын

Zangief literally wasn't a bad guy, though.

@tomhill3248

4 жыл бұрын

"I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's nobody I would rather be, then me...."

@thex3635

4 жыл бұрын

Who's BaD ?

The Joker: you know what I notice? Nobody panics when everything goes to plan! Even if the plan is horrifying

@gordonb1367

2 жыл бұрын

The whole point of that speech was always to let the audience know he does have a plan. He isn’t “an agent of chaos” in the usual sense of the word, he’s unbelievably methodical and meticulous in his scheme, he just needs to play into an extremely common fear of the unknown.

@davidwood481

Жыл бұрын

So true it's scary

@mightystellwan1974

9 ай бұрын

"Introducing a little anarchy, Upside the established order and everything became chaos. Do you know anything above chaos? IT'S FAIR!"

@SOC675

4 ай бұрын

because chaos means everything fights for themselves including the schemers of the established order.@@mightystellwan1974

That’s why it scares me how smart the joker actually is

4:10 - "We start carrying semi automatics" - well sounds like they were carrying musket loaders or revolvers before so theres the problem

Film Theory: The Joker is actually Megamind.

@nixian_zwaylus

4 жыл бұрын

noted.

@thekrazyhatter5063

4 жыл бұрын

Oh no you dinit

@1Weirdo

4 жыл бұрын

The joker is actually John Wick one of the mob there once saw him kill a guy with a pencil.

@thekrazyhatter5063

4 жыл бұрын

@@1Weirdo oh hell no disrespecting the joker like that No you dinit

@1Weirdo

4 жыл бұрын

@@thekrazyhatter5063 All it takes is 3 bad movies.

Plot twist: The Joker was wearing hockey pads the whole time.

@jaidahweaver3439

4 жыл бұрын

*what gives you the right?!*

@flo-vs6kq

4 жыл бұрын

i dont get what that should mean

@LauWo

4 жыл бұрын

Vastly underrated comment @ErikfromEarth xD

@formedmilitia1880

4 жыл бұрын

flo then obviously you haven’t seen the movie

@abic9048

4 жыл бұрын

I’M NOT WEARING HOKEY PADS

I really like this theory. It makes Joker seem like a more insane and sadistic version of V from V for Vendetta.

Mat could have stated that this interpretation of Joker is more in line with the philosophy of Anarchy, which is akin to chaos because it seeks to abolish/undermine/disrupt hierarchies in favor of returning power/control to communities. (Ideally in an egalitarian manner...and not harming said communities)

@dafilmqueen556

10 ай бұрын

You mean Lonnie Machin aka Anarky is exactly how MatPat is describing Heath Ledger's Joker?

In the original “Batman” Joker announces “This town needs an enema”

@Newt2799

4 жыл бұрын

Dang I didn't know the town was constipated

@fordelianas5469

4 жыл бұрын

means cleansing Gotham of its chaos & scourge Also for us viewers it's cleaning out the shit lol

@kevinkoger5749

4 жыл бұрын

Psywriter 😔😔😖😖😩😢😫😭😭😭

@noonenowhere877

4 жыл бұрын

@@Newt2799 I mean metaphorically it is definitely clogged up with shit.

@aLwE17

4 жыл бұрын

​@Psywriter 1989 Joker said "This town needs an enema", you're probably too young to know about it. Here's the scene. kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2WI0sdmlMW2gaw.html It's another way of saying "this town needs to flush out the shit out of its system so it feels better".

You know, it's amazing what you can get done when you don't concern yourself with right and wrong. -Joker

@vegitoson4218

4 жыл бұрын

Then we can do what we want. Without the restrictions of other people and their rules.

@montaholic3120

4 жыл бұрын

nice edgelord quote, it's not like as if he never said that or anything

@Sylinnilys

4 жыл бұрын

I think he did, from another source.

@KoolMonkE

4 жыл бұрын

OKAYYY, but if I say Thanos was right, I'm the bad guy.

@montaholic3120

4 жыл бұрын

@@KoolMonkE No offence God but you are the bad guy for believing that half the universe should die for a problem that doesn't exist

Considering how intellectual Nolan's dark knight trilogy is, this actually makes perfect sense. The joker is - just like in a card game - the perfect hero card you can play in order to win. Very well researched.

This video was right on everything except for one aspect. Batman wasn't just stopping a,few petty crimes here and there, he was trying his best to track down the leaders and mafia bosses but it was taking to long.

And i quote: "A villain is just a hero off the other side..."

@user-qd8cs7nv7p

4 жыл бұрын

No, that'a an anti hero.

@user-qd8cs7nv7p

4 жыл бұрын

Also, your'e supposed to say who your'e quoring it from.

@thatcooldudeisawesome876

4 жыл бұрын

What are you a teacher?

@user-qd8cs7nv7p

4 жыл бұрын

@@thatcooldudeisawesome876 no, Im just smarter. Jk

@mrj7297

4 жыл бұрын

if that was true, you would have figured out how google works by now, try it! :)

"Most of the evil in this world is done by people with good intentions."

3 жыл бұрын

İt seems good intentions isn't enough

@fellowpassenger_54-67

2 жыл бұрын

@ true, but what is enough are good intentions and the will to uphold and go about those good intentions in the right way

@rebelcybran5850

2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Grant : With the best intentions? Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions.

@Ray-ly9lj

2 жыл бұрын

Even with good intentions or not, ppl can still cause catastrophes and lead to more

@michaelmiller6050

2 жыл бұрын

@Ryan Alex just about to elude to that myself

RIP Heath Ledger. Absolute legend bro. With him at the helm Joker could do no wrong. He definitely holds a special place in all of our hearts. This theory is nice cause it adds a level of dignity to his already awesome legacy. Besides Joker he had such a diverse and dynamic acting career, I don’t mean to digress but I loved him as Casanova. But personally he was the Joker I was exposed to, grew up with and I’m grateful. That talented man gave this character his all and it shows, absolutely amazing performance and wonderful theory. Also I’m glad you hired the man who made that popular theory. I love seeing my boys cop the bag, hope y’all are doing well. Anyways, sorry for the rant if you read this far have a blessed day you wonderful child of light. I love you.

@dream_walker9726

4 ай бұрын

I know this comment is old but I’m currently recovering from issues my anemia and medical troubles and this has literally made my day.

This is one of your best, if not your best movie theory episode. Bravo!

Joker: *takes rich people hostage* Batman: *shows up* Joker: and he waddled away waddle waddle

@stevenmorales7814

4 жыл бұрын

And he came back the very next day, bam bam bam batty bam

@cathiaaskew1106

4 жыл бұрын

steven morales Hehehe I completely forgot why I made this joke

@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780

3 жыл бұрын

@@cathiaaskew1106 it was funny tho

@rachelguderjahn2231

3 жыл бұрын

Till the very next day! *bomp* *bomp* *bomp* *bamp bada bamp*

@WhyForWhatNow

3 жыл бұрын

Got Any Graaapes?

Dang this was a good look at this movie. I like the Joker more and more as time goes on.

@lakers4life71

3 жыл бұрын

Front page comment

@herbnfizz4113

3 жыл бұрын

idk why, i hated Batman ever since the first movie came and now i have my reasons

@jayjaygaming8625

3 жыл бұрын

You’re the guy that always comments on SSSniperwolf’s videos!

@brodybingham6808

3 жыл бұрын

all my joker videos I watched today you were there.

@luthfeesenpai4933

3 жыл бұрын

@@brodybingham6808 cmon man good thing he wasn't key epic

"Gasoline is cheap" Oh the irony

These and many other points are what Gordon talks about several times with the Batman. Best investigator ever

So jokers story is like a twisted version of handsome jacks

@cb-bz1wy

4 жыл бұрын

I just said the same thing 😂🤘

@Holsp

4 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean Joe?

@primusprinplup1352

4 жыл бұрын

Holsp Joseph Mother

@jpowel

4 жыл бұрын

@@Holsp Yeah, he probably meant Joe. By the way, did you hear Joe has ligma?

@roboknightt04

4 жыл бұрын

Whats that story about?

"Hey MatPat, could you sponsor us?" "Sure Honey, I'll mention how you can buy explosive materials for cheap!"

@calebsatterfield1935

4 жыл бұрын

Ima just buy some gunpowder and dynamite for that orphanage. Thanks Honey!

@bs2202

4 жыл бұрын

@MARK PEARSON why so serious

@lurker6918

4 жыл бұрын

@MARK PEARSON just from reading your comments I can tell what type of person you are, and the Joaquin Phoenix joker is at the same level as heath ledger's joker in my opinion, but it's still hard to compare them when they are in 2 very different styled movies.

@lurker6918

4 жыл бұрын

@MARK PEARSON Omg I'm so tired of hearing the words "I didnt like it because it was sad", thats literally the point, thats was what the director was going for. What did you think you were going to watch? And wdym he sounds gay? That's his voice in the movie, just because someone has a higher pitched voice doesn't suddenly make them gay, and the way that he acts and dances is just how he is, I mean he is crazy after all, why would you expect him to act like a normal person would.

@broly425

4 жыл бұрын

That's a great way to get placed on the FBI watch list

this is probably the most accurate analysis on this channel.

At first I thought he only took half, but after rewatching the scene he doesn't just take the money he takes their man power as well.

@josephpena6181

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

“Every villain is the hero of his own story”

@panickbutton7010

4 жыл бұрын

I mean i can think of at least 10 villains that are far from heroes of their story

@rookieluffy1758

4 жыл бұрын

Handsome Jack's words echoing every where If you think about it jack was the same too he wanted to cleanse pandora

@cigame249

4 жыл бұрын

Trust me my friend, when you said that you will got -70% ppl said "oh the hero who burn city" -30% joking on you

@lordwar4585

4 жыл бұрын

@@panickbutton7010 list them here

@Oscar-vi4uf

4 жыл бұрын

YOU'RE THE BANDIT, AND I'M THE GODDAMN HERO!

The Joker: people are happy when everything goes to plan. No matter how horrifying the plan is

@MySerpentine

4 жыл бұрын

He's not wrong

@leejohnstone3051

4 жыл бұрын

@@MySerpentine The Joker: if I was to kill a gang banger or blow up a truck full of soldiers nobody says anything but one ole mayor gets killed. Everybody loses there minds. Me: that's a clever for the scenes where you have one boat full of prisoners and the other boat full of innocent people. If the innocent people blows up to boat full of prisoners nobody will say anything but if the prisoners blows up the boat full of innocents then everyone loses there minds. There is method in the Joker's madness

@angelmendez-rivera351

4 жыл бұрын

Lee Johnstone That is exactly what it is. The Joker is a genius, even if he is extremely sickening.

@leejohnstone3051

4 жыл бұрын

@@angelmendez-rivera351 his plan to clean up Gotham was sickening but it worked. The Joker also show Batman in order to make Gotham crime free you must kill otherwise what's the point. You can't clean up the city without breaking a few eggs

@angelmendez-rivera351

4 жыл бұрын

Lee Johnstone Exactly. I think the thesis of the movie is that sometimes, there is no good, ethical choice to be made to fix the problems, and not fixing them is not any more ethical either.

the joker movie also plays into this. joker kept parts of his past personality that wanted to make people happy all along. which is why he insists on masking his man as clowns and why his actions sometimes look more like magic Tricks than evil scemes.

@josephpena6181

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

“See I’m not a monster…I’m just ahead of the curb”

Ra’s al Ghul: Gotham is incurable. Joker: Hold my beer.

@beasbiswas90

3 жыл бұрын

The one who turned the like count to 101!

@OK11_

3 жыл бұрын

* hold my smile

@joshuapooner4142

3 жыл бұрын

More like hold my gasoline.

@ThreesiXtydegreeS

3 жыл бұрын

More like hold my pencil, the Joker doesn't drink

@arcguardian

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThreesiXtydegreeS he drank at the rich ppl event.

Great, now I love Heath Ledger's joker even more.

@jamesmartinez9377

4 жыл бұрын

Was this a complaint or a compliment?

@khajiitkorner918

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmartinez9377 I believe it was sarcastic complaint, more as a joke than as an actual bad thing

@jamesmartinez9377

4 жыл бұрын

@@khajiitkorner918 i was expecting an r/wooosh

@khajiitkorner918

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmartinez9377 nope I'm not like that unless the person in being overly ignorant or a jerk. Which you are not being, have a nice day.

@jamesmartinez9377

4 жыл бұрын

@@khajiitkorner918 thank you

Honestly I'm gonna say this theory might actually be better than the movie itself Like having a twist that the Batman is the evil one it's a type of story I like I've grown up watching Batman And I've very few times been surprised by scary movies regular movies I could predict movies that I know nothing about see a little bit of a movie and predict the ending so this theory is actually amazing and I love it it actually brought a smile to my face thank you

I have always loved the character of the Joker, and I love this video and theory! An awesome breakdown of those 2 Batman movies. Love the channel Mat Pat

In alfred’s story he makes Colonisers sound like the good guys while ignoring what they were really doing. Damn

@johnfrancisdoe1563

4 жыл бұрын

Alexy AND Friends Not even ignoring it. Being totally matter-of-fact about it.

@liquidphilosopher1816

4 жыл бұрын

@Manuel Camelo Satan would agree with you

@SkarletteD

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about it, and through that, it really wouldn't be hard to pull comparisons to what's happening in Gotham to real life gentrification you know, making things look good and doing very superficial fixes but leaving the impoverished behind and comparing gentrification to colonization and idk how well it actually stands within the movie, but an interesting thought none-the-less.

@someweirdo1486

4 жыл бұрын

"You can't see yourself as the villain, when you think you're the hero"

@music79075

4 жыл бұрын

Alfred's story?

Everyone in Gotham: Gotham cannot be saved. Joker: Fine i'll do it myself

@noneofyourbuisness6244

4 жыл бұрын

He actually said: "hold my beer"

@connieshoes9564

4 жыл бұрын

Dead meme my friend

@pacerknight6866

4 жыл бұрын

@@connieshoes9564 "Dead meme because I said so"

@mikkitoro8933

3 жыл бұрын

You could also say, "You can't rely on anyone these days, you gotta do everything yourself."

@josephpena6181

2 ай бұрын

​@@mikkitoro8933 Joker always say this in cartoons

A major problem is that Batman never suggested retiring in Dark Knight. He became more vigilante (and violent against even the cops) than ever. Joker forced Batman to come down to his level.

@me-myself-i787

4 ай бұрын

He did suggest retiring. He said to Rachael something along the lines of, "Harvey Dent is going to stop Gotham's criminals, and then they will no longer need me."

Matt: Game theory? I love that show! Me: I know you do.

Alfred's story kinda sounds like a discount robin hood

@Valencetheshireman927

4 жыл бұрын

I think the story was more to do with Burmese poverty rather than colonialism.

@hiss7024

4 жыл бұрын

He doesn't hand them out to kids tho. He dumps them in the river. Alfred saw some kid holding one of the stones, that the kid found in the river.

@ninjaturtles4348

4 жыл бұрын

HISS even better remove the stones entirely from the economy

@yevenlu3243

4 жыл бұрын

Funny thing. I'm Burmese. Hah.

When governments are so evil villains become heroes.

@robertkevinsieras321

4 жыл бұрын

Most underrated comment

@MartinLeong25

4 жыл бұрын

The heroes are the villans in the eyes of the government

@givethatrabbitabanana4321

4 жыл бұрын

@Abhinav Menon no He is sparta

@MusicFangTeaLover

4 жыл бұрын

No he is patrick

@bigyodawash

4 жыл бұрын

This makes me want to rewatch dark knight again its compatible to the comic when joker expose batman and not even joker in general was created to get payback on criminals honestly if u actually read up or pay attention to the killing joke 🤔...... something similar to the punisher but disguise as a clown and batman was the reason he fell into the acid it makes alot of sense to expose batman mojarity of criminals are being brutally beaten and most of their accidents are created by the batman he's the reason their the way they are mainly he cripples them it's no different than damaging or committing a crime🤔......

My opinion he was the hero and Batman is fighting anarchy, escalation, and the important villain his ego so when that is dealt with he rises to be the hero Gotham needs again 🤟🤘🤟🤘😎❤

13 years, 50 rewatches, and dozens of analysis videos later im still finding new ways to think about this movie

I like the fact that dogs are the opening example of escalation by the bad guys and later on the joker describes himself as a dog

@InitialPC

2 жыл бұрын

oooo good catch

@lskdjfaksjdf6923

Жыл бұрын

I too like dogs :)

@nikkinewbie6014

10 ай бұрын

Yeah - that Dude at the beginning is like “My dogs are hungry!” Part of Joker’s world view is that people have a dog eat dog mentality. Joker set out to prove that people will destroy others to protect their own best interests and there is no social responsibility to community. Batman’s / Bruce’s contention is that there are still good people in Gotham - like the vast MINORITY 😕 of the Gothamites on the boat that voted against blowing up the criminals. And there are some good police as Gordon remains unfailingly selfless throughout the Trilogy. There’s also the scene where Joker threatens to cut that same mobster up into little pieces and feed him to his hungry pooches which again signifies the point that the dogs will not be loyal to their master when push comes to shove. It’s a pretty descriptive graphic 😳. One wonders if he did exactly that. Either way, Joker has those dogs working for him at the end in the skyscraper when he sics them on Batman. Even the police have their dogs that chase Batman after he tells Gordon to “call it in”. At that point I’m reminded of exactly what you said about Joker comparing himself to a dog chasing cars - so it’s almost like the Joker is personified by those police dogs which have switched loyalties like their masters as they chased Batman to his Batpod - and into that eight year long retirement. Joker won. Yeah Nolan has a whole “dog eat dog / there’s no such thing as real, lasting loyalty” motif going on in this movie. It’s brilliant because humanity already accepts that a dog can be and most often is the MOST unquestionably loyal form of life on the planet - but you have the Joker subverting that idea and putting humanity on trial by saying we’re no better than a pack of hungry dogs. So why should Batman be putting himself out for Gotham? That’s what Joker is basically saying to him in the interrogation room at MCU.

@dashspeed9523

9 ай бұрын

Theorists 2 seconds after this post: Dogs are people are the same?

@brianmcdonald7017

9 ай бұрын

Also how he puts his head out of the car window like a dog.

That literally proves that " *Not every hero wears cape* ". "I wear a smile, big smile"

@Alonzi.

4 жыл бұрын

Well the incredible summed that up real well. Cape = airplane death

@babygenjo5714

4 жыл бұрын

UrbanRose cape = 0 sight

@lovrohabus3548

4 жыл бұрын

ah yes allmight

@jacksonstein809

4 жыл бұрын

Not every cape wears a hero.

@JeskaDax

4 жыл бұрын

What if a kitchen apron is just a cape worn backwards - and the heroic feat is feeding people that are hungry?

My favorite Joker moment in Dark Knight was when he's talking to Batman saying "When the chips are down, these "civilized " people? They'll eat each other." Which is actually more true than most think; we act civilized but when everything goes to sh*t, as we see in almost every apocalypse-type movie, people turn on one another. It's self preservation at its core.

I love listening to this content keep up the good work, ya definitely been doing ya homework

If Heath Ledger survived, not only he would've been in "The Dark Knight Rises" but the theory of him being a the real hero of Gotham probably would've been explored.

@alext399

2 жыл бұрын

it probably would’ve been like in Joker 2019, where he has a bunch of followers

@volbound1700

Жыл бұрын

He was supposed to be in the Dark Knight Rises in some form. I think he was connected to League of Shadows. Surprised there isn't movie theories about that.

@jeux2322

9 ай бұрын

@@alext399true I reckon we would of got a scene of people in joker masks rioting at the end of the movie

@Oddgamer0917

9 ай бұрын

@@volbound1700tdk rises was amazing but it still had some issues and sadly most of them were because of the unexpected death of heath ledger. They had work with what they could.

@Ty-vj4wg

6 ай бұрын

@@volbound1700I heard the plot would stay the same but when Bane frees all the criminals from jail, Joker would become the second main villain.

I’m only now realizing how accurate the hishe Batman’s voice is😂

@jaimeebrooks7167

4 жыл бұрын

Shoopy Doopy that channel is amazing.

@Kerbydragon

4 жыл бұрын

@@jaimeebrooks7167 100% agreed.

“You see, I’m not a monster. I’m just ahead of the curve”

Sad to think he no longer does videos but I'm glad he's doing his own thing I used to love watching his videos before he left but idk how long he's been gone for nd I now miss hearing his voice talking about all sorts of theories

The best thing I like about the Joker is that he doesn't have supernatural powers and yet he is a supervillain.

@eschelar

3 жыл бұрын

That's actually the key to why he is the best villain and why batman is the best hero. Neither has powers. Instead of making them more powerful, they made them more interesting. Moriarty is also somewhat timeless for the same reason and it was vital for Doyle to make Moriarty to provide a good villain for Holmes. We don't actually like good superheroes. We like relatable superheroes that overcome through provoking and genuinely unsettling villains.

@Nobody-bh9ew

3 жыл бұрын

Same with Bruce Wayne

@stevetheweebgamer6939

3 жыл бұрын

As Megamind said to Tighten: Oh you're a villain alright, just not a *super* one! O yeah what's the difference!? (epic entrance) *PRESENTATION!*

@fatimazz

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevetheweebgamer6939 wow...

@matthewealy7420

3 жыл бұрын

@@eschelar although I'll agree that the joker is one of the best villains, I don't agree that batman is the best super hero. Maybe for Gotham level villains but once you get to justice league level baddies, the only reason batman is so successful is plot armor by the writers.

Christian Bale as Batman talks like he’s constantly out of breath

@Ryan-pg1tw

4 жыл бұрын

I think it was after a fight that batman was out of breath

@christiancarnalla9418

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan No it’s almost always

@chutneychachi702

3 жыл бұрын

He said it in blueray cut that he had headaches in the suit and couldn't even pee and had to be nannied by th crew..

@simcard027

3 жыл бұрын

his voice is the worst thing about these movies. is so distractingly bad

@kevinw712

3 жыл бұрын

You think it's easy putting on that suit? That thing doesn't forgive an INCH. okay I started this comment totally as a joke, but I just realized after I finished the above sentence. Batman only really seems to do any free, open movement when he's actually doing all his karate moves. The large majority of moving from one given spot to another in any non-super closed in crime environment, he has some gadget to propel or pull him. He uses his vehicles like crazy. He lifts weights and bangs out push ups, but apparently dude never does ANY cardio. He's legitimately constantly out of breath.

My favourite interaction in this movie might be the interrogation scene right after BM slams his head into the table

The thing about petrol being cheap hasn't aged well 😅

MatPat: “Joker is the hero of Gotham” FBI: 👀

@israelherrera4037

4 жыл бұрын

69 : so did you hear about joker

@zelno9579

4 жыл бұрын

@AMIR HAKIM MUDA HASIBUAN 2014 i speak london

@toxint

4 жыл бұрын

Zelno that's absolutely beautiful xD

@scarletthread4921

4 жыл бұрын

“Wait, that’s illegal”

@Nichodo

4 жыл бұрын

@AMIR HAKIM MUDA HASIBUAN 2014 FBI OPEN UP!

Joker: *blows up hospital * Mat pat: such a nice guy

@neilsosa842

4 жыл бұрын

the hospital was evacuated and Matpat said he is not a good person

@damiengermosen5367

4 жыл бұрын

11:27

@kyronminnock7282

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

@zarrar736

4 жыл бұрын

Neil Sosa not really, 50 people went missing during that explosion

@zarrar736

4 жыл бұрын

Neil Sosa how do you explain deaths of hundreds of other casualties during his stunts , plus when he bombed an entire police station along with prisoners to get out , oh and what about when he bombed the judge or poisoned the commissioner ... ill wait

"To defeat evil,you must became greater evil" :lelouch