This was an awesome breakdown

@zmaster7149

4 жыл бұрын

Yoos

@yalfi7585

4 жыл бұрын

Totally

@user-qw4jy1oy9r

4 жыл бұрын

*Spoiler alert* Do not read if you have not seen it. Interesting question if Arthur is the Thomas son. Just saw it yesterday. Need to watch it again to solve this mystery. I will have to analyze the Penny hand writing in letters to Thomas and compare it with the hand written "TW" note on the back of the black&white photograph. It will give us some more insight to solve this interesting script twist :)

@harryflint3252

4 жыл бұрын

*noticable agreement*

@chrisbrady6320

4 жыл бұрын

This was the best supervillain movie ending I’ve ever seen not even close

*The Waynes walking out of a theater and turning down a dark alley* Me: Awww shit, here we go again

@bonniefazman9065

4 жыл бұрын

Bruce just can't catch a break can he?

@Ryn0_333

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@PamelaTaylor

4 жыл бұрын

HELL NAW HE CANT

@larontezmoore3313

4 жыл бұрын

Honest the God I don't know why I didn't see that scene coming when it happened. But out of all the reimagining of their death this was my favorite because now there's a legitimate reason behind it and one of the biggest superhero and villain rivalries is now reborn.

@awesomesharkhand1876

4 жыл бұрын

@@larontezmoore3313 I'm ok with it in relation to this movie, but Joker having a special connection to Batman due to the Wayne murders isn't my thing/jam.

"Scene cuts to Arthur stomping on a body" I thought that was just him stomping on trash because he was angry.

@mineis3andhalfinches865

4 жыл бұрын

Literally me too, I was so confused when mat said that

@gmoneyissorich7802

4 жыл бұрын

Lol Same

@cecilek2240

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh also

@Regongma

4 жыл бұрын

That's cus he was just kicking trash

@randomness5513

4 жыл бұрын

Same

Honestly, I only hear people talk about the Murray scene. But the scene that got me the most was the reveal with Sophie. He breaks into her apartment, and you think "okay, they are together so maybe its not that creepy." and then she walks in and screams. She only knows him from the hallway earlier in the film. She doesn't even really know his name. IT then flashes to all the scenes we've seen her in, revealing that she wasn't there. Only Arthur.

@npcimknot958

Жыл бұрын

that was great

@braydencoversbeatles4029

10 ай бұрын

Little by little, you were becoming… Tyler Durden

"So how did the Joker get revenge?" "Super easy, barely an inconvenience." "Oh really?" "He just said 'You get what you f*cking deserve', did a back flip, snapped the bad guys neck and saved the day!"

@vyanhegde5736

2 жыл бұрын

I’m dying 😂😂😂

@ProgrammerPenguin

Жыл бұрын

LOOOOLLL i am a fan of his work and that is basically him in a nutshell \

@TheTrueDiablix

Жыл бұрын

Tell us more lie stories

@Quetzal00358

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow wow wow………………wow

"I've never heard him cry, he was always such a happy boy." The haunting revelation that this is because his whole life, Arthur could only express his pain and sadness through laughter.

@heatherwelch6288

4 жыл бұрын

UGH

@Charlie-bd9bq

4 жыл бұрын

Fuck, this is a stolen comment, good one.

@Charlie-bd9bq

4 жыл бұрын

Never mind you just copy pastad:)

@Jelloc

4 жыл бұрын

Actually I just copy pasted my myself among several different videos hahaha

@Charlie-bd9bq

4 жыл бұрын

JelloG haha omg sorry

His delivery of the line "you get what you F*cking deserve!" Still gives me chills. The way he delivers most of his lines is fantastic.

@graciegaston9536

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I wanna watch it again but it freaks me out, lol

@FalonGrey

3 жыл бұрын

The voice crack he does in that scene is amazingly timed.

@RedhoodBeyond

3 жыл бұрын

I love that line

@drewgold1

3 жыл бұрын

The hard fffffff in FFFUCKKNG DESERVE. 😰😱

@dwaynethedripjohnson6180

3 жыл бұрын

@zonald trumpet wrong movie lol

I think the final scene was the biggest joke of all because earlier in the movie, the city had cut funding for the meds & social support he was receiving. He was playing by the rules, working, generally trying to do good but they cut him off. It wasn't until he snapped & started killing people & wreaking havoc on the city that they gave him back the meds and services again.

@NiJill

2 ай бұрын

Sounds about right as in..true to life

What I understood. Arthur apparently didn't have any history, his origin was a null. When his mental illness was spiralling down, he didn't have a family to look up to. He wanted to be a good, civilised person with reputation in the society. But the constant abuse broke his will power, pushed him towards a bipolar situation and ultimately made him choose the darker side. Like most serial killers, who find solace and pleasure by killing and mutilating humans. Arthur was also pushed into such a state. He lost all his empathy and felt good with killing. Awesome movie!

@tinypuffs1467

2 жыл бұрын

If arthur lost all his empathy why didn't he killed the little guy who is the only one that treated him nicely?

@folieadeux0531

2 жыл бұрын

@@tinypuffs1467 Because it’s what you said Gary was the only one who was nicer to author and not everybody to the society author didn’t fully transformed into the joker yet we see his process into the joker.

@EEEEEEEE

2 жыл бұрын

E‎

@rebeccamatyas691

2 жыл бұрын

He just need weed that kept me from turning out like him.

@damienchall8297

Жыл бұрын

@@rebeccamatyas691 does not always work plus you being a women you are less prone to violence

Remember Joker was so sad when he found out he wasn't really dating the girl because his mom did the same thing with Thomas Wayne

@nrejajarian8178

4 жыл бұрын

this whole movie is really just sad

@judgment5090

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if he ever did something to the girl... probably not.

@thatcooldudeisawesome876

4 жыл бұрын

@@judgment5090 ??? What ???

@webdude15

4 жыл бұрын

@@judgment5090 i dont think so, cuz....alright i got nothing, but it would be pointless for him todo so

@EstTerminus

4 жыл бұрын

@@judgment5090 I remember the next scene is him in his apartment having that realization that they never spent time together, and then you can see police car lights shining through the window. Who knows, the police could be there for him or something unrelated. Creepy though

I don’t think the scene with him laughing at the wrong beats of the standup comedians jokes was fake. I just think that scene was to show how different he is from everyone else

@yahya092

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. I felt like that scene was trying to show Arthur's attempt at being the same as everyone but he's clearly not and thus he laughing at the wrong time and even writing in his journal to "make eye contact" when doing standup

@colinobriant6895

4 жыл бұрын

Yahya Al Yeah, I read it as him having some sort of inability to interpret humor so he was taking cues from the people around him and following their lead.

@noctambule5726

4 жыл бұрын

He didn't understand what the people regarded as funny and only laughed at the "jokes" that he thought was funny. I'm surprised that the comedian didn't call him out for ruining his jokes xD

@Snuzuk

4 жыл бұрын

I was convinced this was the case and seeing that part in this video confused me for a moment. I believe as well that the scene with the comedy stand up is real. He is completely detached from everybody else (he did refer to himself as being a mentally-ill loner) and this scene shows that he is not in sync with the rest (society).

@Mari-Yama

4 жыл бұрын

I thought the same, because from what I remember, other people were looking at him like "wtf mate?" it was very awkward.

I love how this movie kinda gave you the backstory of the joker while still keeping the question of "or is it?" The best answer is always a multiple choice

Mat is the only human being who can turn any video under 5 minutes into a 20 to 30 minute breakdown.

“So he had a pillow fight with his mother to thank her. Penny loses”

@unreallilac5554

4 жыл бұрын

Mikeology sudden death GO

@donthousand3296

4 жыл бұрын

she was so nice that let her son Win the pillow fight

@judgment5090

4 жыл бұрын

Shame she lost. It could’ve harmed her health... badly.

@dragonk5543

4 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile he actually just suffocated her while she was asleep

@ronyorobio7096

4 жыл бұрын

@@dragonk5543 She was not asleep. She was awake and concious when he took the pillow.

Who else thought arthur was just stomping on trash out of anger

@hatti...

4 жыл бұрын

Lol same

@thealjohnsonshow2188

4 жыл бұрын

+Xiryzzz I honestly thought he was curb stomping someone outback.

@russellevans8086

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he very clearly wasn't killing anyone. There really isn't anything to suggest he did. There was no legs or arms or anything coming out from behind the dumpster and it just sounded and looked like him kicking trash.

@MrGamingplan

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he was, I think matpat has actually misunderstood that scene, I interpreted it that he was stomping on the trashbag that he'd thrown his clown outfit into after being fired, as we never saw the outfit again after that.

@valor3116

4 жыл бұрын

Same

I really want to see a batman movie set in this timeline, seeing how everything with the joker effects Bruce Wayne after he grows up would be amazing

@GentlemensClubHolyEdition

Жыл бұрын

This is, if any of that actually happened obviously

@Metaknight145

4 ай бұрын

Could be really tragic if they do a more empathetic batman than the dark gritty Batman we always get in live action movies. Joker finally gets the kind of person he would have needed in his life back when he was Arthur but it's far far too late. So, Arthur tries to destroy Batman's empathy for him, out of denial, because he simply cannot face someone genuinely trying to help him while he's "lying there dying on the street" after everything he's done and the bridges he's burned. It ruins the self justification he constructed for his actions and would force him to honestly face what he's done, so he runs deeper into it. Joker convinces himself that Batman is awful, he's just pretending not to be.

@user-pb7tp7ns1r

Ай бұрын

@@GentlemensClubHolyEdition Yeah, wanted to make this point but nowhere up top to do so. If all of this was fake, then are Bruce Wane's parents really dead? This doesn't reflect batman at all. At least some of the plot points in the movie must have been real or it was just a guy in an asylum making stuff up and the whole "BATMAN" cant actually happen...

@user-pb7tp7ns1r

Ай бұрын

How will this tie into the whole DCU? Don't get me wrong, there were defiantly parts of the film that were hallucinations but surly not all of it...

@GentlemensClubHolyEdition

Ай бұрын

@@user-pb7tp7ns1r What, the question to ask is how would a new batman tie into this lol, and I think it could make for a really interesting story

Dang Ryan George is getting good at making it seem like there are two different people, almost seemed like Matpat was really there

@Leo_Valdez

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it really seemed like it was actually Matpat but then screenwriter guy said he’s not Matpat so obviously it can’t be him

@mstnurjahansumi2301

Жыл бұрын

Matpat and Ryan crossed the youtubeverse.

When Arthur lost both his job and his mom, you could say he was "penniless"

@josephbenfield3763

4 жыл бұрын

@Arxx Fury underrated comment right there

@savagemilky7344

4 жыл бұрын

Wise words

@tristans333

4 жыл бұрын

joey boiii good bit it’s not not clever😂

@littlesadeo

4 жыл бұрын

I-

@always_g1oomy

4 жыл бұрын

AYYYYYYE

I don't think Arthur was stomping on a body. I think he was literally just stomping on a trash bag.

@zrixhi

4 жыл бұрын

AyKay imagining it was his boss I guess

@jeremygross992

4 жыл бұрын

I agree - it was just him angry and venting on trash.

@makadise

4 жыл бұрын

You can see an ancle

@andresnunez8156

4 жыл бұрын

He just wants his theory to be true

@Robzooo7

4 жыл бұрын

I agree it's just the garbage

I kinda love the idea of pasting this concept onto the traditional portrayal of the joker. Like the one going toe to toe with batman. Thinking of him hallucinating a fantasy version of all of their interactions is so cool and disturbing. And Kinda explains his actions a little bit more then just, "he crazy". Like how he always treats batman like a friend hes just playing a game with, even though batman is so cold to him. If HE is hallucinating different reactions and words from batman, it kinda makes more sense.

Hands down, this joker movie is my favorite movie of all time. I have never seen such a masterpiece of a movie. The directing, the sounds, the lighting effects, the soundtracks and songs, the performance, the plot, the character development of arthur, how any person could relate to how arthur feels during the whole movie. It's just perfect movie with 0 flaws.

Ending explained: Arthur has a split personality and throughout the movie we are watching him "die" and Joker come to the forefront. Evidence in brief: Arthur is right handed, Joker is left handed. Arthur's notebook has two different writing styles. Arthur's body language is hunched and defeated, Joker's is flamboyant and makes full use of his body's motion. If you watch closely you can see the moments he shifts from one to the other. Most clearly in the scene after his delusion at the Pogo club. He's writing jokes at the table and shifts from Arthur -right-handed, frustrated, and light writing - to Joker - flamboyant, left-handed, and bold large writing. By the ending Joker is at the forefront and Arthur is gone. Thus the end scene in Arkham which is a delusion. Arkham looks different in this scene and Arthur shifts from laughing painfully to laughing because it's funny. His bloody footprints signify Arthur's death and Joker's "birth."

@chinguunssi1523

4 жыл бұрын

Good one.

@lisko4038

4 жыл бұрын

fuck thats good

@Blackmetalmusicguru

4 жыл бұрын

you might have a good point!

@ShinigamiInuyasha777

4 жыл бұрын

If you were a woman, i'll marry you for this

@fs4459

4 жыл бұрын

I agree however I believe that Arthur was killed before the ending in particularly after he kills his mother. This is because after this he is way more confident and he also kills for a reason and accepts himself as being the starter of the joker riots. This is shown when he went to the murray show and changed his mind from killing himself to killing Murray and this would also explain why he admitted to killing the 3 Rich idiots because as I said he accepted being the starter of a revolution but also because he submitted to joker he felt like he had nothing to lose. Which as we can see from the comics and all the other movies with joker, jokers thing he does what he does because he gets a kick out of it and if he dies during the process he doesn’t care.

The scene where Joker is in the elevator, completely serious and a man next to him is insane and writhing around will always stay with me

@Bard_bardington_esquire_III

4 жыл бұрын

It's like resisting to masturbate on no nut november

6:08 "Shockingly terrible security." Yeah, you will find that was true for pretty much everywhere before 9/11. A crazy man broke into Buckingham palace and entered the Queen's bedroom not just once, but twice - which fans of The Crown are aware of. Similar stories of atrocious security can be heard in interviews with criminals who lived back in the 60's through the 90's. Don't forget that John F Kennedy was killed because he was riding around in a convertible. While not identical to Franz Ferdinand, the lesson had yet to be learned after 50 years. I know that those stories don't have to do with the security of a building, but overall security was often a facade for anyone of ill intent.

@fikrijuanda6321

2 жыл бұрын

Also the fact Wayne doesn't have bodyguard

@matityaloran9157

2 ай бұрын

I’d add D.B. Cooper’s air piracy as an example

Maybe it’s just me but as soon as I saw Arthur let Gary go after killing Randall, a lightbulb went off in my head…”We just met the Penguin!” Arthur’s only friend happens to be a short, bald man with hands that looked oddly like flippers, has a nose like a beak and waddles when he walks (no offense to the actor Leigh Gill) but that is just too spot on to be a coincidence in my world. I’m hoping this plays out in the sequel.

@jasonroberts6080

8 ай бұрын

Right. Need to keep the villain prequels going.

@archiedenisu7727

8 ай бұрын

More like kids, no? Cause he looked like a kid.

He blew Murray’s mind with that joke

@shaunhalstead5439

4 жыл бұрын

Thats absolutely hilarious because you meant that literally

@dhn112

4 жыл бұрын

@@shaunhalstead5439 great job mate you got the joke

@lizzypoo0

4 жыл бұрын

Shaun Halstead Sherlock Holmes I presume?

@squidboss4590

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@jackpadz6079

4 жыл бұрын

@@shaunhalstead5439 (IN DRAX'S VOICE)

I think the final joke when he says "you wouldn't get it" is over thought too deeply. I think it has a more simple meaning. In the early stages of the movie when the news broadcasts the three men dying, Arthur laughs and his mother says "that's not funny." In the bathroom Thomas Wayne says "you think that's funny?" One of the three guys he killed says "what's so funny." The entire movie his humor (or condition) isn't funny to the rest of the world, so at the end he just came into terms that no one else will laugh being "You wouldn't get it" his final conclusion.

@ohchlorine

4 жыл бұрын

Uncle Skint thats just totally deep

@bipstymcbipste5641

4 жыл бұрын

It could just be that.

@seanmullins6890

4 жыл бұрын

Yu just over thought that tho

@uncleskint4861

4 жыл бұрын

Sean Mullins not really. I just gave explanation to my thesis. Kind of how things work

@majortom91gsg

4 жыл бұрын

@@uncleskint4861 ironic...

18:00 We don't know what the meds were. However, there are a number of anti-psychotics which lower your drive, ambition, etc. It's possible that being off the meds has deleted that filter and made him more assertive. It's also possible that 'standing up for himself' as he sees it when he kills the three Wayne Enterprise guys has made him far more confident.

I agree with your overall thesis. However, I tend to think that Thomas Wayne may actually be his father. It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that a rich and powerful man lock up a woman he had a child with in an insane asylum. Penny alludes to it when she says that she was forced to sign papers that it wasn’t true, and also the picture she had signed by a TW, presumable Thomas Wayne. Of course, she may have written it herself, but the possibility still exists that Wayne is actually Arthur’s father. We have no way of knowing, just like we don’t know how much of the film is actually real, which in my opinion makes it a brilliant movie. We don’t know if we’re seeing hallucinations or reality, and we don’t know who is lying and telling the truth. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter if Wayne is actually his father but the mere possibility opens up a potential rivalry with Bruce that may play out in a future film if DC decides to extend Arthur’s universe.

@rollanddev

Жыл бұрын

The Joker's past is not really supposed to be known. I think they did something impressive by keeping his past ambiguous while simultaneously exploring it. Thomas Wayne could have easily doctored the documents. Someone with his level of social/political power (and clearly wrapped in so much corruption it's second-nature to him) could easily do this with the intent of stomping out a potential wrinkle in his political career. But on the other hand, he could be telling the truth when he's confronted - trying to get rid of said wrinkle by giving it what it wants in the hopes that'll put an end to all of this. Regardless, it's clear (at least in this "universe") that the Joker and Batman have an important tie to one-another through Thomas Wayne. Whether it's a genetic tie or not doesn't change all of it being fan-service though. :P

@christianalvarez3471

Жыл бұрын

The adoption story Thomas Wayne presented seems the least likely, given that in order to adopt a child you would most likely have to pass a psych evaluation. In addition, it's quite rare for a young, unmarried woman, working as a live-in maid to want to adopt a child at that stage in her life. Some of the court documents also stated Penny's boyfriend physically abused her and the child, when Arthur meets Thomas in the bathroom he is immediately met with violence, it's very likely he was the un--named abusive boyfriend.

@kandgray

Жыл бұрын

That means joker and batman are related??

@nymphey

9 ай бұрын

I don't know if it was ever done in the comics, but I find the idea that Batman and Joker might be brothers absolutely brilliant. The scene when Arthur met Bruce was in a way very tense and touching.

@geslinam9703

8 ай бұрын

@@christianalvarez3471I agree with you that in the 80s especially, she would not have been able to adopt, and that with his money and power, Wayne had her committed and faked adoption papers. I don’t think Wayne was the abusive boyfriend, though. A woman in her position, and mental state after what happened with Wayne, would be a magnet for horrible men.

So the entirety of Joker is just Arthur Fleck having an argument in the shower with his shampoo bottles?

@omarholder9036

3 жыл бұрын

Ive suspected that it's more likely that the only true sequence could be those breif flashes of a mental institution. The scene at the end and another flash scene with him banging his head on a window. And everything is his fabrication and might just be the reality his head is in at the moment.,

@phantom31017

3 жыл бұрын

I’m sure there was a Wilson volleyball there at some point too.

@infinityhand6569

3 жыл бұрын

I still like to think he blasted Murray on live TV

@arcanonn

3 жыл бұрын

No, no. It was much wider scaled. The two-in-one bottles also got involved. Soap bars chimes in. Hair brushes eavesdropping. Pretty soon, the whole bathroom was screaming.

@myellatorres2110

3 жыл бұрын

@MuffinBean :D lmao 😂

Murray: "You think that killing those guys is funny?" Joker: "I do. And I'm tired of pretending it's not."

@lucas-xf7rc

4 жыл бұрын

Thats me ( and everyone ) everyday

@jakemolina7505

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucas-xf7rc incel found

@timvanrijn8239

4 жыл бұрын

@@jakemolina7505 realy your going with that? maybe we realy are all just a bunch of clowns

@jakemolina7505

4 жыл бұрын

@@timvanrijn8239 yes incels are clowns just like this manifesto called Joker

@timvanrijn8239

4 жыл бұрын

@@jakemolina7505 hello thomas wayne. dude its not a manifesto. if it where a ''incel manifesto'' whouldnt they focus on the romantic realtionship. instead of the theme that this man need help.

I have never seen any YT crossovers as friggin awesome as the two versions of Joker film theory/pitch meeting. You guys are the best. More please!

@kwalpe

2 ай бұрын

69 likes haha funny number

I don't think this is a Joker origin story. I think it's the fantasy a troubled man uses to cope with his life by being this important figurehead and taking control of his life. The real Joker believes that everyone is just like him underneath their masks and I think this movie is playing with that idea. Could also be a commentary on the fans of the joker character that almost idolize him.

"I used to think my life was a Cringe Compilation. But then I realized, it's a Try Not To Laugh"

@nathanielsmith5976

4 жыл бұрын

I thought my life was a Let's Play. Then I realized it was an Any% Speedrun.😀

@alhdino

4 жыл бұрын

More like "I used to think my life was an adventure. But then I realized, it's a survival"

@jeremybarnes3698

4 жыл бұрын

That was good 😂

@shrekthesecond6373

4 жыл бұрын

You mean a try not to commit die

@muhamedhani4419

4 жыл бұрын

Its_frosty a “try not to commit no oxygen” I would call it

This whole movie can be summed up by Heath Ledger's Joker "Do I really look like a guy with a plan".

@stepkickking9868

4 жыл бұрын

Kind of ironic considering Ledger’s Joker actually did have a plan, like he planned everything in The Dark Knight.

@prue5588

4 жыл бұрын

@@stepkickking9868 other then the bank robbery, he really doesn't have a plan.... only chaos

@mzc102908

4 жыл бұрын

@@prue5588 he planned everything and was every step of the way. He's a walking paradox, that's the point

@prue5588

4 жыл бұрын

@@mzc102908 "Some men just want to watch the world burn." But you're right....

@aviationdude9546

4 жыл бұрын

Fair enough

Joker movie wasn't the Joker's imagination. Well let me explain to ya'll. In the last scene of the movie, we saw the Joker laughing over a joke and then when the therapist asked him if he's gonna talk to her, the Joker replied "You wouldn't get it". The Joker was simply thinking about his past. Yep ladies and gentlemen, the Joker movie was real but it already happened and the Joker was simply thinking about his past all the time while sitting in the asylum in front of the therapist. This also explains why all the clocks were set at the same time. The clocks were set as if they were smiling. Actually Joker was laughing through those clocks while remembering his past. So the Joker movie was real and all the events of that movie actually happened. But we were watching the movie through the Joker's head as the Joker was simply remembering his past. This explains why "that's life" was playing in the background in that scene. Because everything that happened before that scene was simply the Joker's life. Also notice that Joker looked slightly more grizzled and older in that scene than in all the previous scenes. Indicating that all the previous scenes of the movie happened a long time ago. This theory also explains why there was a scene showing Thomas Wayne and his Wife dead. The Joker was simply laughing at Thomas because of how stupid Thomas was. Now this theory of mine has to be true, otherwise the whole plot of the movie doesn't make any sense. C'mon now, it's a movie about the Joker's life and not about the Joker's imagination. So I hope that I've finally given a perfect explanation to the ending of the movie.

@gezzcombakking2454

2 жыл бұрын

I actually believe you 99%

@caldwellfisher5288

2 жыл бұрын

to say, "oh it was all a crazy mans dream", leaves us unsatisfied, and then we might fade in to a theory similar to yours...and back again. I think this was a clever intentional ending...as it does actually work either way, and it gives us a part to play in the story i,e,.. May each person enjoy his own ending.

@folieadeux0531

2 жыл бұрын

Well thank you for clearing it up I can now finally rest now. Happy new year everyone

@DarthVader99447

2 жыл бұрын

@@folieadeux0531 Did you burst any fireworks on new year's day mate?

@DarthVader99447

2 жыл бұрын

@@folieadeux0531 I hope you didn't cause it's pretty bad and painful for animals.

The fact that he was no longer "medicated", is what allowed his behavior of the ending, the extreme manic episodes were the result of not being hampered by meds.

This movie was so sad . There was literally no happy parts and the only part that was happy was fake

@BryceStillStanding

3 жыл бұрын

Good

@cordy208

3 жыл бұрын

that’s why it’s so perfect

@kittikattt

3 жыл бұрын

Thats the reality a lot of people live thru 🥺

@nou9225

3 жыл бұрын

I mean... It is drama/tragedy so...

@spongebobsquarepants2981

3 жыл бұрын

Him killing Murray was pretty great.

I think the ending joke meaning was, Who’s the orphan now? Bruce loses his family, while the Joker finds his. Bruce loses everything, while Arthur gains everything he wants, admiration, mental clarity (well in his mind), and purpose.

@zureke1848

3 жыл бұрын

We don’t know if it’s 100% in his mind or not.

@Michael-ev2xu

3 жыл бұрын

Actually I don’t believe he associates anything with Bruce directly. I believe that the joke was Thomas that interaction he had with Thomas affected him on a deep level and the fact that his actions inadvertently caused the death of Thomas way pretty much wrote him off as a nobody.

@lexusant64

3 жыл бұрын

Makes perfect sense as the ending saw a sequence with the Wayne's dead and Bruce standing there, the pearls are broken loose and hit the floor and then we see joker wake up on car bonnet surrounded in glass (representing the pearls) Arthur was a boy who was tortured and abused and and his meeting with Bruce earlier had depth. You wouldn't get it!!!

@The155thbird

3 жыл бұрын

This makes me 🙂

@danielej5856

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I don't think joker had anything to do with Thomas' death directly.He was assuming that it could be because of the riot.we never knew.Who cares he isn't even the actual joker

Fun fact: since the death of Bruce Waynes parents is cemented on one specific date (I believe it's June 8th) no matter what version of the story it is means that we know what night the late night show is on canonically!

My personal theory about this movie is that when we saw Arthur create the Joker persona, he created something bigger than himself. With the whole clown movement, it inspired mentally insane people in the future to take on the Joker identity later on when Bruce Wayne (shown as a kid in the movie) grows up and becomes Batman. Maybe he's the reason behind the 3 jokers

“Joker was an amazing film that I never want to see again” - My father

@niceguysfinishlast

4 жыл бұрын

rewatching it takes away the awestruck-ness

@koshiwheeler4789

4 жыл бұрын

Me

@YunGUna420

4 жыл бұрын

Me too though

@Moonbae510

4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Arcessitor

4 жыл бұрын

@@niceguysfinishlast Watched it a dozen times, didn't change for me.

This movie felt like an entire season of a tv show

@PotentialKay

4 жыл бұрын

Factss

@koolwraith9801

4 жыл бұрын

THAT’S WHAT WAS SO WEIRD!!!

@hollowhoagie6441

4 жыл бұрын

It all makes sense now...

@corremorre

4 жыл бұрын

That's what makes it so good

@redparadise5466

4 жыл бұрын

Joker Kills Murray HD Here kzread.info/dash/bejne/hpdqzLtshLCYgpc.html

I like how they handled the fantasy elements instead of them going "And it was all a dream" as words coming up on screen.

That entire intro is by far my favourite you've ever done. Love it. The humour is fantastic

"very aggressive pillow fight, penny loses" got me laughing like the joker

@mashable8759

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahhahhahhahahh

@thewatchdog9581

4 жыл бұрын

Nunya Business HELLO EVERYONE! I JUST GOT THE WHOLE SCENE UPLOADED ON MY CHANNEL! TAKE A WATCH

@bellablondon6172

4 жыл бұрын

The Watchdog no self promo here

Also I loved how even in a Joker orgin story Bruce's parents had to die again.

@jasonjo1993

4 жыл бұрын

They kind of deserves it in this movie

@caosisaac

4 жыл бұрын

Next batman movie gonna cover it again. At this point bruce gonna just yeet them himself.

@Asset80

4 жыл бұрын

They always die no matter what. That alley draws them in then WHAM! Batman is born.

@aria5614

4 жыл бұрын

@@Asset80 Yeah but like, they're Uncle Ben at this point. Why don't the movies ever pull a homecoming and just brush right past that fact? (Aside from Lego Batman and even then that kinda doesn't count.)

@bakashinji

4 жыл бұрын

I was kinda surprised when this happened but it was pretty cool and made sense too

It has been a while since this video came out so this will probably be a mute point, but it’s fully possible that Arthur realizes he doesn’t know if any of it was real. The joke could be between the real him and the imagined him. If he really is Joker, it’s a funny idea that it was all in his head. If he is actually Arthur, it’s funny that he put himself, a relative nobody, as this famous person. The cut to Bruce with his killed parents is likely to say “How would he know this happened?”

OMG YES RYAN GEORGE!! Getting him on the channel was probably super easy, barely an inconvenience.

The most shocking information I learned while this movie: Joaquin Phoenix is younger than Jared Leto

@iGl3n8483

4 жыл бұрын

Tf really

@prime_1577

4 жыл бұрын

Aitz yup 3 yrs older

@patax144

4 жыл бұрын

Which is why Leto is better suited as a vampire

@stealthboy316

4 жыл бұрын

For reals

@kasper_rix8865

4 жыл бұрын

What

At least Murray was more open minded after the interview

@yammymy

2 жыл бұрын

lmao underrated comment

@tory4777

2 жыл бұрын

🥁 🐍

@latteaddict1524

2 жыл бұрын

you did not lololol

@YellowAlex16

2 жыл бұрын

Ohhh, I get it

@aztn19

2 жыл бұрын

If only Arthur had said this line in the movie lol 😅🤷🏾‍♂️☠️

Much like everytime we have seen the origins of the Joker, it is all subjective to his narrative, which is ever changing due to his psychosis. Fantastic breakdown Matpat!

You’re awesome Mat and so is everyone on your team! I’m very grateful to have the opportunity to watch your content!!

He didn't imagine being on the talk show as Joker and killing the host. That really happened for a couple of reasons: 1. When he took a seat, he said that it was exactly like he had imagined it. 2. During the dialogue itself the host was making fun of him and telling him that what he did was wrong. Up until that point all the other delusions / daydreams had him be at the top of the world. Everyone loved him. If that was just a delusion, the host would have praised him for killing all the people he killed. But that hadn't happen. Also, when he kissed the lady, she didn't look like she was all too much into it and was kinda flabbergasted, where where he kissed his imaginary love interest, she was totally into him.

@sh0ut4r0

4 жыл бұрын

If you think that she looked as if she's into him, boi I have bad news for you.

@brandonhuerta3198

4 жыл бұрын

@@sh0ut4r0 well she did close the door and proceeded to grab onto him so id say she was more or less into it

@thavrisco1632

4 жыл бұрын

When he killed the host, it seemed like there was no security in the building. Taking up at least a minute, he shot the host again and strolled up to the camera. And when he was in the cop car, the police man didn't mention the killing he admitted to or the killing of the host, only the riot he caused.

@ericc3711

4 жыл бұрын

But hes still in the FRIDGE

@vincentmonroe1717

4 жыл бұрын

Also Murray mocks him for using his book to "remember" a "knock knock" joke. Would agree that it is real.

This movie was art, the little guy trying to escape Arthur’s apartment legitimately had me scared for him. In every other movie I would have laughed but this movie I was legitimately afraid

@doctorcorgi3134

3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry you're not the only one.

@s0uls4nd

3 жыл бұрын

@@doctorcorgi3134 ikr

@vetumude

3 жыл бұрын

i couldn’t help but laugh at the scene, the guy sounded somewhat sarcastic when he asked arthur why he did that. my dad who i was watching the movie with looked at me as if i was insane lmao

@remyhavoc4463

3 жыл бұрын

@@vetumude I mean, I don't blame him for looking at you like you're insane, but I also laughed at that scene lol

@HayDayEveryday

3 жыл бұрын

@@vetumude you are dumb, maybe?

7:06 So, this explains why Joker's backstory is so complex. It's *literally* multiple choice.

@TewityPlays

Жыл бұрын

what1???

@squiddart

Жыл бұрын

@@TewityPlays joker doesn't have an identity like batman (bruce), superman (clark)... He has multiple backstories and nobody, not even him, knows which is true

20:40 the perfect duo

“Joker is way too violent for younger viewers. May seem disturbing to watch if you are a child” Me: ....yeah... that what rated R means...

@gregorgailan2849

4 жыл бұрын

Its more disturbing then violent when you consentrate on the story and ewery thing

@casey997

4 жыл бұрын

@@m0li you're gonna have to rephrase that last part it made no sense

@fullence7906

4 жыл бұрын

Ryguy K ok boomer

@aleksisstikans1205

4 жыл бұрын

Im 13 and i saw it and loved it

@connerandbrandonroblox6932

4 жыл бұрын

I watched it with my 4 year old cousin.

“It takes a village to raise a child, a child that is not embraced by the village will burn it to the ground to feel its warmth”

@wowie2411

3 жыл бұрын

God I love this quote

@shadowling77777

2 жыл бұрын

Yup this perfectly describes what happened

@mrhutchblackdog4636

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of gengish khan. Everyone turn on him and his family. So he burned everything. Then made laws to make sure that never happened to anyone else.

@mrhutchblackdog4636

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe Im wrong but also Mansa Musa

@plexi9043

2 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know from where this qoute is from? I'd like to watch the movie / read the book/ inform myself about the person who said it/ etc.

The Byronic hero element of Joker that I loved most was that he ultimately got what he had always wanted: love, acceptance and even adoration. When he’s just Arthur Fleck, the world is happening to him. But ultimately he becomes Joker, the character that is adored by the other clown mask wearing masses. He becomes the hero.

Ryan George and MatPat do stuff so well together

The stairs in the Joker are symbolic of Arthurs mental state. Before Arthur becomes the Joker he is struggling to go up the steps to show his mental sanity, but when he gets fired his sanity goes down like how he goes down the stairs. But when he becomes the joker he goes down the city steps, it is a symbolism of his sanity and mental state going down.

@moonwatcher2877

4 жыл бұрын

so THATS what the stairs represent! I remember watching the movie and I just knew there was some form of symbolism there

@Idioticproductions07

4 жыл бұрын

I just thought it was his personally dance floor

@shawnmclaughlin5886

3 жыл бұрын

And at the top of the stairs when he is dancing down them are two cops aka the real world with real problems and consequences from which he runs from.

@irwinanthony1825

3 жыл бұрын

That is something English teachers would say if they taught their students this movie 😂

@texasbeaver8188

3 жыл бұрын

@@irwinanthony1825 Man, I hate English...

Having an imaginary girlfriend is such a relatable gamer thing

@jemimahkendall6579

4 жыл бұрын

That's really sad, maybe embracing technology wasn't such a good idea

@cosmicdoodles2992

4 жыл бұрын

@a bean r/airplanemotorwhooosh

@ssjjaydengames37

4 жыл бұрын

You not lying mines a waifu furry

@wikwayer

4 жыл бұрын

MY WAIFU IS REAL !

@mehlow7583

4 жыл бұрын

Such an epic gamer move

Omg i love the collaboration!!! Honestly couldn't stop giggling at the beginning 😍perfect - barely an inconvenience, really👍

I love this movie, and I've been putting this video off because I thought you'd ruin my own theories, but they're actually really similar. Thanks for the content.

“What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a system that treats him like trash? You get what you deserve! “ Favorite line

@ColaCartel

4 жыл бұрын

its society

@monsters691

4 жыл бұрын

Mine too

@yew2oob954

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget to make sure that there are little to no laws stopping the violent and mentally ill from owning guns.

@seb9422

4 жыл бұрын

Graka G nigga what

@c.ccarlhead5744

4 жыл бұрын

@@yew2oob954 *cough* in America. *cough*

I think the ending is real. Something like: After he unleashes the joker, he makes his fantasies a reality and he doesn't suppress himself anymore. Hope this was understandable..

@markbergin8821

4 жыл бұрын

I think the only part of the ending that's a hallucination, if any, is the police car crashing and everyone praising him like a hero. I think the car most likely drove him straight to prison/the asylum, explaining how he ended up captured. Although, personally, I dont think you need to explain how he ended up in the asylum, it should be assumed that he was eventually found after the riots.

@Waterbug1591

4 жыл бұрын

@@markbergin8821 Fake or real, it's up to the audience to decide is what the movie is trying to achieve. Basically it's pointless to debate either fantasy or reality, Joker happened, Bruce's family died. I don't see what's the big deal with debating what is real and what is not. The movie doesn't even give you enough evidences to determine which is real or fake.

@kitsuneclockwork8938

4 жыл бұрын

I agree

@keithriley6597

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought. I think...

@coldcut4751

4 жыл бұрын

JiNzX115 facts

I wasn't sure about seeing this movie when it came out. When I saw that it had the attention of the Academy Awards people, I was curious since they don't seem to like anything that normal people heard of. I freaking love this movie and think that Arthur was right when he wrote in his notebook: "The worst part of having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't."

16:24 when he says "you don't listen" he's wearing a different colored shirt. Green as opposed to brown. Green is fake brown is real

"Mind telling me your theory?" " *You wouldn't get it* "

@bigchungus2346

4 жыл бұрын

Haha I see what you did there

@ayopayo856

4 жыл бұрын

oooooh joker reference (great job)

@Hugabolunga

4 жыл бұрын

*Walks away with bloody footprints*

@lordfenix17

4 жыл бұрын

*that's life*

After watching the movie a second time, I noticed that when Sophie knocked on Arthur's door to ask him if he was stalking her, she says she thought he was gonna rob her apartment. Arthur responds by jokingly saying that he has a gun so he can drop by later. Sophie tells him "You're so funny Arthur". Notice that it was their second interaction, and on their first one Arthur didn't mention his name... That gives us a very subtle clue that it's all in Arthur's head...

@user-cn3ip6ok8p

4 жыл бұрын

i noticed this

@JBuns02

4 жыл бұрын

But in the scene where he goes into her apartment for the first real time she knows his name. She says “you’re Arthur fleck from down the hall right”

@joana8615

4 жыл бұрын

I mean it was pretty obvious all along

@tallanciano4094

4 жыл бұрын

@@JBuns02 I think you're confusing with their last time that they meet, I believe she said that when she saw him sitting on her couch: "you're Arthur Fleck from down the hall right?" Trying to sound more friendly to calm him down as she was sure he was there to hurt her and her daughter... Edit: also when they meet for the first time in the elevator she says nothing but smiling at him and then when the elevator stops she just says "This building sucks"

@JBuns02

4 жыл бұрын

Tal Lanciano yes but I’m just making the point that she did know his name seeing as that was their first interaction after the elevator scene

I think that he does do it. Maybe it’s not exactly as he makes it out to be, but it still sets up Bruce as Batman and Arthur as Joker, which kicks off the rest of the stories.

This was the crossover I didn’t know I needed. Bravo!! Both great channels crossing over.

Speaking of Sophie, you forgot that the most sus part of their interactions was when she "confronted" him after he followed her. She says, "You're funny, Arthur," but from what we have seen, he has never given her his name and vice versa. Also really weird that it took no time at all for her to answer the door after he knocked, no commentary on his makeup or anything.

@323azteca

4 жыл бұрын

She was not real. All those scenes were things he wanted.

@yarp1246

4 жыл бұрын

@@323azteca Yes, I know.

@spol

4 жыл бұрын

@@yarp1246 well you were acting like you didnt know. It all makes sense in that context.

@lachlancrimmings2235

4 жыл бұрын

Aaron L what are you talking about his entire comment was about how their interactions are suspicious and don’t make sense he’s literally giving all the evidence she’s not real. Did you even read it

@SpairM

4 жыл бұрын

Sumora Sophie was real but Sophie at those was not real

He wasn’t fantasizing about killing his boss. He was just taking his anger out on the trash. You can hear the sound of it when he stomps.

@davimelo9181

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@yo9835

4 жыл бұрын

Piper Macartney-FIlgate of course, it was heavenly

@eujean6683

4 жыл бұрын

He can't really hear properly how Arthur stomp the trash(something like cans), does he also hypnosis by this movie?

@inthehxll

4 жыл бұрын

Yess agreed

@awesomo3606

4 жыл бұрын

- boobooman4 - you can see the legs and feet of the body

The visual storytelling in this film is fantastic. Arthur’s maladaptive day dreams can be picked out by the way the camera and lighting change. It’s warmer and clearer than reality. Limitless (the TV show) used similar cinematography to show when Brian was on NZT vs off NZT

This was such a great breakdown, almost seems super easy, and made with barely an inconvenience.

"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"

@chriskadiya3297

4 жыл бұрын

Where's this quote from?

@jackchojnacki3818

4 жыл бұрын

@@chriskadiya3297 It's an African Proverb, it's actually "The child who is not embraced by the village..."

@jettemoraga4556

4 жыл бұрын

is that a naruto reference?

@chriskadiya3297

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackchojnacki3818 oh ok thanks man.

@mentalerror69

4 жыл бұрын

@@jackchojnacki3818 I knew I got something wrong in it, cheers mate!

I love the breakdown, but honestly I feel like the ending was 100% real. His confidence can easily be explained by the fact that he isn't on his medication and by this point in the film he's burned every bridge and killed his mother and that guy he worked with along with the 3 wall street guys. He knows that there's no happy ending for him and that there's nothing that can stop him at this point so he can actually be himself and say and do what he wants to say

@MyUsersDark

3 жыл бұрын

It's just as he says; "I got nothing left to lose. Nothing can hurt me anymore."

@oreo74nc

3 жыл бұрын

I will respectfully disagree. He was off his medication so obviously he felt so confident. Also, if the ending was real, why wasn’t his hair green??

@jcf5400

3 жыл бұрын

@@oreo74nc cause he took out the dye🤨

@stephsivley

3 жыл бұрын

@@oreo74nc ur dumb 🤣

@RisingShadowslost

3 жыл бұрын

@@oreo74nc because that was a really shitty dye lmao its clown make up its not meant to last

I like both these channels and I’m glad they did a video together

Great collaboration!! I love both of you! ♥️

I honestly lost my shit when he walked against that glass door at the hospital 😂😂😂

@gokugaming5647

4 жыл бұрын

Nobody "thats exit only"

@bloodlinewasabi119

4 жыл бұрын

Well well well hello David

@bloodlinewasabi119

4 жыл бұрын

Hi daviddd

@jasonmueller5541

4 жыл бұрын

but he played so cool withe cops, then fucks up, and continues to play it cool lol

@DustyJones1997BGCL

4 жыл бұрын

Same lol

I loved the symbolism of him going up the stairs after losing everything, like it only got harder. Then later on when he is free of everything, he starts to dance down the stairs. Showing that it’s a lot easier when you are freed

@coen4953

4 жыл бұрын

I think the act is also a parallel that the descent into madness is easy - when you tip over the edge, there's little to keep you from falling deeper

@talt5725

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's about the social ladder

@bigtimepimpin666

4 жыл бұрын

Ah "saved by zero" like the Buddhists...

@macaiahyhwh3330

4 жыл бұрын

Didnt him went down stairs?

@coen4953

4 жыл бұрын

WILLIAM FRESKOS one of my favourite quotes from the joker 👌🏼

That whole intro is literally this channel. As long as yoy add in that one quote I will hold on to for the rest of my life 'How much time do you go?' Gold. Pure Gold

This is the video that made me turn on the bell for notifications!! Loveee this breakdown completely.

“Your not the usual guy” “Sure i am” “Well ok then” Seeing you two interact is hilarious!

@xF3arl

4 жыл бұрын

What about his not?

@Nabooshlove7

4 жыл бұрын

I think this is a reference to the film lol

@averageskeletonremover2415

4 жыл бұрын

i tHiNK yOu mEaN yOu'Re

@zo6679

4 жыл бұрын

America January wot,mate?

@sjninja

4 жыл бұрын

"Thats nice." "Thats horrible."

The reason he seems so confident later on the murray show is because hes no longer arthur fleck hes JOKER hes the person hes always wanted to be. Its not too hard to see.

@KanaidBlack

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he doesn't have anything to lose, after all

@emperyan_

4 жыл бұрын

Mat's drawing conclusions on evidence that just isn't there.

@delzarfarman8399

4 жыл бұрын

I think life made him Jocker he never wanted

@alyssa7867

4 жыл бұрын

@@KanaidBlack The most dangerous man is the one with nothing to lose

@aprillynx_

4 жыл бұрын

KanaidBlack yeah he LITERALLY says that

Awesome collab, it was very tight and the theory - super easy, barely an inconvenience

REALLY nice blend. Very good.

"I've never heard him cry, he was always such a happy boy." And the sad truth is, he wanted to cry, he needed to cry, but in the end, all he could do was unwillingly laugh. Just try to imagine that for a second..

@e6486

4 жыл бұрын

Goddamit my dude you made me smack my phone

@nuller87

4 жыл бұрын

@@e6486 It's just a joke

@e6486

4 жыл бұрын

I'm talking about the fly

@nuller87

4 жыл бұрын

@@e6486 So am i.

"He becomes the leader of this public rebellion" "Good for him"

@clementthangtinkhum7690

4 жыл бұрын

That's Hitler

@krel7160

4 жыл бұрын

@@clementthangtinkhum7690 Could also be Lenin.

@SpaceElvisInc

4 жыл бұрын

@@krel7160 it can be a lot of people

@baalgodofrain

4 жыл бұрын

It worked well in Persona 5

@Snapeserverussnape

4 жыл бұрын

Could be Jesus.

That had me with the screen rant ending Card

The best KZread crossover of its time. Currently rewatching

“Look who’s laughing now” Joker:Who’s always laughing

@Viktomic

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was in the chess club - the joker

@cottonflamingo6585

4 жыл бұрын

I think Bendy

@azhar4716

4 жыл бұрын

@@Viktomic todd joker howard

@davidethridge5748

4 жыл бұрын

*no ones laughing now

Let’s face it, Joker is not a movie...it’s a piece of art. Genuinely loved every minute of it.

@TerryTotter

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Glynn It’s the best movie I’ve seen in years

@WD-0820

4 жыл бұрын

Ah a man of culture

@bwebb90

4 жыл бұрын

This theory was focusing too much on the FALSE hallucinations, and not the actual message. I get it, it is plausible to assume the 3rd act was all in Arthur's head. But that is a cheap cop out to why Arthur Fleck did what he did on the Murray Franklin show. The film creators are smart, very smart- they knew when to play the "oh that was just a hallucination card" and when not to. By assuming that the 3rd was a complete hallucination, COMPLETELY demeans the whole story of the POWER of disrespected mental health and the destruction it can cost.

@Loneyranger

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you it really made you think

@shamekanall4198

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Glynn it was pleasantly horrific...and I enjoyed every bit of that ride.

Im a bit late, maybe I watched and forgot. But I gotta say the first two minutes of this is the best thing I’ve ever seen on KZread. Thank you Matt and Ryan!! You guys are the best. Please do more collabs 🙏

I wasn’t expecting Ryan George but am DEEPLY Happy to see him here

Can we just agree that the little person scene was one of the greatest scenes of dark comedy in the last few years? My GOD I was howling.

@zerozeeros

4 жыл бұрын

It was a cute moment hardly a howling moment

@OutdatedLeon

4 жыл бұрын

You mean the only kind co-worker who he didn't kill in his apartment? I think he isn't real though. The little guy is actually Arthur himself - the good conscience of Arthur. This would mean, Arthur kissing the guy's forehead as he hush him out of his house is a metaphor of Arthur kissing his good conscience goodbey.

@nekochan3231

4 жыл бұрын

@@OutdatedLeon no, stop making this darker than what it already is.

@adolfogarzachaires394

4 жыл бұрын

OF COURSE

@mintchip228

4 жыл бұрын

same,, but noo my dad called me out for it

“If I’m going to have a past, I’d prefer it to be multiple choice.” That’s what I’m thinking this movie is. One of his 500 explanations of his backstory. You see in various cartoons and comics where the Joker tells various people different things, even convincing Harley Quinn of one specific one and Batman saying he’s heard more. This one may or may not be true, but eh, that’s the fun part about hearing Joker backstories.

@davidozuna907

4 жыл бұрын

I literally started reading this when it played in the video

@jesseling6672

4 жыл бұрын

He's also not mentally there and you have to remember this is from the bias of the narrator

@starielife2680

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!! This coulda all been a fake origin story and his past is completely different 😂😂😂

@cowwithrandomthoughts2503

4 жыл бұрын

@@unknownlycan all DC Movies have their own canon

@MrE215_

4 жыл бұрын

Alex I like thst

Ah the good ole, “it was all a dream” story. Classic