Why INDIA Rejected TALGO Train's ? || भारत ने टैल्गो ट्रेनों को क्यों अस्वीकार कर दिया?
Ғылым және технология
#indianrailways #trains #bullettrain
In this eye-opening video, we delve into the stunning reasons behind the rejection of Talgo trains by the Indian Railways. The decision was based on a myriad of factors, and we're here to break them down for you.
Indian Railways, known for its extensive network and unique challenges, had some strong reservations about the suitability of Talgo trains for Indian conditions. Among the major issues cited were the trains being too narrow with a low footboard height, making them less accommodating for passengers.
But that's not all! The trains' height was also a concern, as they were deemed too low for the tall platforms commonly found across the Indian railway system. The complex process of separating coaches further raised doubts about their operational feasibility.
Hemant Kumar, a crucial figure in the Railway Board, pointed out that the trains couldn't be put into service in their current form, raising questions about their adaptability.
Furthermore, it was revealed that no foreign company had offered Indian Railways the same technology, leading to concerns about long-term maintenance and parts availability. Railway ministry officials were also hesitant to go for a direct agreement with Talgo.
Additionally, the lightweight nature of the trains was highlighted, with reports of accidents adding to the rejection list.
But there's more to the story! Bharat Forge Infrastructure Limited and Talgo India Private Limited teamed up to establish a joint venture aimed at manufacturing high-speed passenger trains in India, sparking curiosity about the future of train technology in the country.
Join us as we explore these astonishing reasons behind the Indian Railways' decision and what the future might hold for high-speed trains in India. Don't miss out on this intriguing revelation! Like, share, and subscribe to stay updated on all things rail-related.
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Acha hua reject kiya, nahi to koi Vande Bharat ke baare mei sochta bhi nahi. Hum import pe hi dependent rhe jaate. Luckily it was a good decision.
@neo3823
9 ай бұрын
Bro vandebharath is an LHB coach with Memu configurations
@divyanshameta9516
9 ай бұрын
@@neo3823it's EMU so what? Even bullet trains are based on EMU concept
@divyanshameta9516
9 ай бұрын
@@saurabbhstar abe chutiye train 18 shandhu mani ki team ne desgin krke banani thi kyuki issko 18 month me bankr tayr liye aur 2018 me launch ku gyi issliye isse train 18 bola gya, lekin isska launch vande bharat ke nam rakha, patta nhi tum whatsapp vale kha se gyan uthate ho, jakr shadanshu mani ki ted talks hi dekh le
@obitoxic04
9 ай бұрын
@@neo3823bullet train left chat 😂
@carsvelozindia4775
9 ай бұрын
@@saurabbhstarVande Bharat Ka Videshi Name Kuch Nahi Hai Bro Train 18 Uska Name Is Liye Hai Kyonki 18 Month Mein Indian Engineers Ke Dwara Developed Hui Hai And Indian Railway Signed Mou With Russia To Manufacture 120 Vande Bharat Express
Its good that it got rejected, otherwise nobody would have sanctioned Vande bharat
Modi ziii true youtuber
@Dr.Kraig_Ren
9 ай бұрын
Ai generated 😂
@kushagra5549
9 ай бұрын
@@Dr.Kraig_RenAI generated nahi Real hai, unka channel hai khudka wahi se li thi clip
@Abhiw205
9 ай бұрын
Modi ji copyrights strike nhi karenge, ishi liye use kar rhe h
@paninimishra5547
9 ай бұрын
@@kushagra5549 right bro
@RealPlatoishere
9 ай бұрын
KZread fan fest ke liye bola tha modi ji ne 😂.....
That Modiji's clip was unexpected 😂
@singularity3021
9 ай бұрын
😂😂
@abhijitgojara7518
9 ай бұрын
😂
@Dr.Kraig_Ren
9 ай бұрын
Ai generated 😂😂
@nilesh7075
9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nilesh7075
9 ай бұрын
App log bhi daba ke like thokie 🤣🤣 legend Dhasu Sir
Talgo failed so Vande Bharat could run
There was another major reason why Talgo was rejected. There was no other competing railway company that put forward any bids for such high-speed train sets. The rules for contracts in Indian Railways mandate that at least 2 companies or more have to place competing bids to be able to be accepted for a railways contract. The logic is that competition would ensure that the companies would not resort to price gouging under the threat of termination of the contract and moving over to the next bidder. However, no other railway company was willing to invest in the manufacture of train sets at our broad gauge (1676 mm/ 5ft 6in) standard, and with no competing bids, Talgo was shelved.
@rajveernaha9858
8 ай бұрын
This was as important as any other reason
Talgo coaches with Indian engine is like making pizza on tava 😅
@ankurmishra3841
9 ай бұрын
Nahi bro pizza with allo lage ga😂
@rishabhsingh6023
9 ай бұрын
Bhai tawa mea pizza acha bnta hai
@ArghyadeepPal
9 ай бұрын
Not Pizza, but Tortilla made on Tava (since Talgo is Spanish)
@sarthakganbote
6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
Subscribe intro was unexpected 😂😂😂😂 Waah Modiji waah Kya template diya h 😂
modiji clip was god level 😂😂
Talgo might be modern but they look so ugly thank god India rejected talgo. India made vande bharat is far better than talgo
Modiji part was unexpected 😂😂😂
Tilting wheel technology of Talgo is the only solution to increase the average speed of Indian Railways. Average speed of Vande bharat train is perfect example. If We have the tilting wheel technology in vande bharat train, the avarage speed will get more than 110Kmph instead of 70-85Kmph
@sagarvadoliya6252
8 ай бұрын
Yah but when it's come to maintenance it's will be pain and high cost because when it's come to maintenance in tilling wheel system the hall train need to tack there for it not only one coach if something happened in one coach and if you know then our train are capable to to go 180 not 110 or 80 it's track that making train slower not wheel sir
@alok_singh
8 ай бұрын
@@sagarvadoliya6252 There is no option other than tilting technology to enhance the average speed. Indian railways will change the Rails but due to the sharp curve average speed will never go up. Even before Vande Bharat India Railways was capable of running the trains up to 160KMPH. But average speed is between 80-90 KMPH.
wo log sare changes karneko taiyar the .cost jyada thi lekin safety bhi jyada thi.bullet train ke kharche me 7000 talgo train aati .
ModiJi promoting every YT channel nowadays. 😂😂
@aniruddhaghewade6236
9 ай бұрын
Modiji ne bola subscribe krne ka to krne ka.😂😂
@limitless-hindi3722
9 ай бұрын
Yes. I see lot of channels doing that😂
@limitless-hindi3722
9 ай бұрын
Modiji ko unpe copyright marna chahiye💀
Heard ashiwni vaishnav's sir speech where he had mentioned some of the points of developing high class trains
Thank you for the information. I used to wonder why this train was not introduced after trial.
Main reason was talgo rejected "make in India" and IP transfer of coaches. Size etc can be redesigned but Spain got greedy looking at Indian railways upgradation plan of coaches which is World's 2nd largest route. - It was this loss experience and the covid hit tourism that made Spain quietly accept C-295 aircraft "make in India" plan
Talgo's sharing wheeled technology is extremely good. This can be used for trainsets
@prasannask8320
9 ай бұрын
it is not good, it means the coaches cannot be separated if any coach has any issue, the entire trainset goes offline if any coach has any serious issue.
@sagnikchakraborty5812
9 ай бұрын
exactly... and also the suspension in such Talgo layouts is pretty awful indeed... a more traditional layout with one bogie in each end is much more suitable @@prasannask8320
@wantaferrari
9 ай бұрын
@@prasannask8320It has its advantages like safety in derailing, smoother ride and lower weight.
@Rakeshpandey-zz1pe
9 ай бұрын
Vanda Bharat is best 😊
@prasannask8320
9 ай бұрын
@@wantaferrari yes but main issue is, european trains carry way less passengers , often 40% to 80% of seating capacity. Indian trains often carry 120% to 220% of rated capacity. that leads to more tear and wear on some coaches so often such coaches need to be replaced which is not easy on a talgo set.
Talgos bogy and coach design is a safety feature, in the event of a derailment indian caoches climb on other coaches of the train leading to more casualties. Talgos design prevents this hazard.
@prasannask8320
9 ай бұрын
you are partly correct. old ICF coaches were linked with hook and slot which did not keep the coaches together in any accident. but current LHB coaches are linked with knuckle lock system which is strong enough to keep the coaches inline for most accidents . talgo linked wheelset provide stronger benefit but that also means the coaches cannot be separated easily, it will need specialised equipment to separate the coaches so incase any coach has an issue, the entire train set is out of commission.
@Krankenwagen571
9 ай бұрын
@@prasannask8320yes 💯
@Krankenwagen571
9 ай бұрын
@RedSupergiant Bhai safety wafety se koi pharak nahi padta end mein toh pathar khana hai ya kisi ke so called nationalistic peaceful community ke plan se derail hona hai 😊
@ImdoneIRL
9 ай бұрын
LHB coaches do not climb on each other during derailment. That used to happen with ICF coaches.
@p.k.k5013
9 ай бұрын
We already have that technology in the form of lhb coaches. The coaches you see climb on other coaches are icf ones
Thanks to that we got Vande Bharat
Your commentary/narration matches with the Sachin of 'Railgyankosh' channel. Your voice and accent matches with that boy.
Thanks for sharing the details. I used to ask myself what reason was to drop this train technology, because I didn't read the article later on these trains. Because I read somewhere these trains are made with Aluminum frames, which is equivalent to aircraft aluminum, doesn't rust BLA BLA.... now I got the reasons. Anyway, ICF Chennai is good for Indian tracks, Tata cars are good for Indian roads and TVS bikes are for INDIAN roads. Usually, people comment like this.
Aacha hua! Hamare Indian engineers ka Kamal dekho! Vande Bharat ke samne ye talgo valgo kuch nhi hai! Apne Desh ki hi train aachi hai! ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Vande Bharat does have the bogies between the coaches. It's not a problem if you are the one manufacturing and maintaining it.
@neerajwa
9 ай бұрын
Kuchh bhi. Dude you have no idea what a bogie is?
@AdityaSingh-vi6me
9 ай бұрын
pura jahil ho kya ?
@tesla9917
9 ай бұрын
😂😂 what😂😂😂
@ramkrishnamaheta2400
9 ай бұрын
Oh Pata Nahi Ji Kaun Sa Nasha Karta Hai
@AdityaHarkare
9 ай бұрын
@@neerajwabogie aur coach alag hote hai
Fact of the matter is we rejected talgo and now we have vande bharat . Better than talgo in all segments. Right decision taken by indian railways . 😊❤❤
@archandutta348
9 ай бұрын
Not better par Kam chalane ke lie thik h
@sairamdash
8 ай бұрын
Bande Bharat train is way better than talgo as per Indian infrastructure and Indian route...
Why Indian railway not starts metro coaches in meter gauge line it's look is good and also we can start as sleeper and ac coaches.
It is true, initially I was brainwashed that we need to purchase everything from outside and I felt sad that high speed talgo was rejected. But I did not know the power of Modi
Then comes swadeshi Vande Bharat Trains (Train 18)❤
How were they able to run on Broad Guage as they use Iberain Guage ?
#askpt difference between talgo and vande Bharat train
All the specifications would have been shared beforehand to Indian railways regarding the width, platform height, bogies etc. So the question arises why the train was even brought to India for testing? Didn't the competent engineer from India gave URS (user requirements specifications) to renefe (talgo)? More than the failure of talgo in India I'd say it was failure to review and understand the specifications of the train set.
All these reasons are very obvious and would have been known before, why did we take trials then?
Bro maine Durgiana express, Himgiri , Archna , lokmanya tilak , Malda town ye sab sare train humare yaha aaram se 120 pe chalte hain . Hume bas apni track ko upgrade karna chahiye
IN 1966 SIMILAR DESIGN OF TALGO TRAIN WAS OUT DECCAN QUEEN WHICH WAS RUNNING BETWEEN MUMBAI AND PUNE. IT HAD WOODEN BOGIES AND ONE WHEEL SET WAS SUPPORTING TWO COACHES. IT WAS THE QUEEN OF RAILWAY. THERE WERE TWO SUCH QUEENS WERE RUNNING. THE OTHER WAS BETWEEN MUMBAI CENTRAL AND SURAT. IT WAS NAMED FLYING QUEEN AND HAD ICF COACHES. DUE TO WOODEN COACHES AND MAINTENANCE WAS DIFFICULT WHICH WAS EFFECTING THE SAFETY IT WAS REPLACED WITH ICF COACHES IN 1070 OR SO.
As soon as I saw Narendra Modiji talking about Like comment and subscribe on his channel a few days ago, I knew someone was going to use this in their video and I was right 😂
@0:39 modiji ne kaha karne ka toh krne ka na bhau 😂😂😂😂
btw jo wheels doh bogey pe laga hua ta telgo ka woh accident hone k time kam impact krta rather than ICF earlier coach jo upar niche ho jata he
#AskPT any update about Shaktipeeth highway
Aapney ye nahi bataya ki Talgo ki articulated Bogie system way too advanced technology hai modern time me...
Bro u need to upgrade your format..your content has power but I think you should change your format by bringing facecam ..your format looks of 2016 in 2023...
🎉
why indian railways asking private companies(like Alstom,siemens) who won the tender to manufacture trains in IR facilties like ICF Chennai instead of in their own factory.
@braveindian2628
9 ай бұрын
Bhai alstom technology transfer sign kar product lati hai.
@prabhatsourya3883
9 ай бұрын
Alstom is constructing factories of its own, such as the Electric Locomotive Factory in Madhepura for the manufacture of electric locos. The thing is, until now, there was complete technology transfer which meant that the company would hand over the patents, and let Indian manufacturers build the tech. Only now are we allowing foreign manufacturers to directly establish railway factories.
As my opinion Talgo is a spainsh train company that also manufacture also train set Like talgo aliva 250 and 250 hybrid Talgo ave 350 And Talgo avril Yes absuloutly vande bharat is good train But we need to more studies On train sets Vande bharat nose is so ugly we need to update ki And also cockpit also But whole train is nice Europen train sets having More aerodyanamics Cafeteria coach etc
@jaguarunleashed4935
9 ай бұрын
Dedicated Cafeteria coach shud be a must on the premium trains. Not sure why no one talks about it here.
@jaguarunleashed4935
9 ай бұрын
Also private cabins with attached toilet/bathroom in first ACs. Might jack up the fares a bit but can be tried on a few train routes. Also more food options atleast on the premium trains.
@Krankenwagen571
9 ай бұрын
Is it really ugly ? 😅 I think it's okay
@hypermaster8232
9 ай бұрын
Hmm overall why I say ugly the nose of vande bharat becoz in vande bharat no have rrts , European and China japan like Mouth like technology That control by piolet from cockpit In the mouth you see a coupler But now what the nose cover by fiber Damage in catale accident
@hypermaster8232
9 ай бұрын
@@jaguarunleashed4935 Yes absolutely We want more major minor Changes in vande bharat
Talgo has tilting technology can move faster than vandebhraath in our tracks
@Krankenwagen571
9 ай бұрын
Wande bharat me bhi aa jayegi abhi testing pe he
I'm from Bareilly bro 😎
Mene ye train deka tha Thoda sa ajeeb tha 😅essa laga ki ham or koi country me hai 😂🥲
Hight, width, bogey and coach structure, capacity, maintenance cost ye sab trial se pehle hi pta nhi kiya
Indian trains with LHB coaches run at 130 kph on main line routes while the Gatimaan express runs at 160 kph. Talgo coaches were tested at a top speed of 180kph with a WDP4 diesel locomotive on the Delhi Agra route and at 150 kph on the Delhi Mumbai route behind a WAP5 locomotive and so please correct your data. Otherwise excellent ...
So basically ICF/LHB trains are like body on frame Boleros while TALGO train was like the the Ford Endeavour.
Indian Summer Temp is 50 Degree
Jaha 3-4 month m major train accident hota hai, waha kya bullet train chalega?
Do Joint Venture Indian Railway = 51% Talgo = 49% Cylindrical Train based on Talgo 230 Diameter of Train = 3 m Cabin Height = 2 m Track Width = 2 m Wheel Size = 15" Floor Height = 200 mm (Or Low R) Low Center of Gravity = More Stability
@palashchoudhury5565
5 ай бұрын
Power Supply AC = 110v & 90 Hz BLDC Motor = 90Hz 2 Phase Half Wave DC Front Engine = 2 Wheel BLDC Motor = 1 × 2 1 Motor for each Wheel Rear Engine = 2 Wheel BLDC Motor = 1 × 2 1 Motor for each Wheel Train Set = 4 Coach EMU based on Talgo 230 Power Car = 1st & 4th * Bidirectional Train
@palashchoudhury5565
5 ай бұрын
Siting Arrangement Facing each othr 3 Sit & 2 Row And 2 cm Short Table in between And 4 Toilet 2 in both End of Train And no Curtain
if talgo has low pass. capacity, they could have used them on trains with low occupancy.
Subscribing because of Modi's request
Maine dekhi thi ye talgo train
How thoughtful of the govt, they already took in consideration the accidents to occur and lives to be lost in the future and reject the above metro . So they can easily reuse the wheels or bogeys or whatever. 🎉😂
2nd
Sirf coaches ko rakha jata hai to vo bahar nikal janeka risk nai hota kya??? Just curious.
0:39 creative 😂😂😂😂
Matlab high end Android chaiye tha flexibility ke liye. iPhone le aye the yeh log. 😅
We need maglev trains in India.
Wah Modiji Wah.. 😂
Savi reason faltu hai except AtmaNirvar Varat & expensive. 1. Vande Bharat mai v coaches ka mixing nahi hota , satabdi , duranta ka coach nahi lagaya jata. to Telgo ko v bina coach mixing k run kia ja sakta tha . 2. Door stairs ko redesign kia ja sakta hai according to IR platform.
@bhushankadam276
9 ай бұрын
Pr talgo apni technology share nahi krna chata tha.... uske wajah se hume saare coaches import krne padte... Part kharab ho jate to bhi import krne padte.... Sab kuch bahot expensive ho jata...vande bharat se bhi jyada ticket hota😅 Iske pehle bhi Technology transfer na krne ki wajah se bahot saare project cancel kiye gaye the....
More importantly, there was only one axle placed between two coaches. System of bogie did not exist.
If you wish to reject anything you will have plenty of reasons for😊.
These things could have been understood by just looking at the train specs sheet or technical presentation, worst case rail employees could have visited Spain. Why did they get a whole freaking train to India first! So wasteful!
You just tried to explain multiplier effect 😅😅😅
does indian railways doesnt know this small things before testing it or are waiting for a youtube channel
@Krankenwagen571
9 ай бұрын
Which things are u saying about ?
Modi Ji's cemo was most unexpected 😂
0:37 ye sahi nehi hai aap PM ke video ka ek part apne channel ke liye use kar rahe ho😂
Indian main problem track china built new tracks we need to make new tracks as well
hates off to Indian Railways n PM modi ji govt done greatest ever historic work.... Indian Railway must do project of installation of iron protective Bar fencing on both side of Railway track on all over states for safety n security of train from crossing of illegally animals n humans on track n also maintain train speed well''''''
Because public wanted actual Bullet trains 😈
Yarr ye to muje ghotala lag raha h lagta h company k sath milke gholtaa hua h ye sab cheez to koe Europe m khade khade bata sakta tha to ye india kyun ayee
wah modi ji wah😂😂🫶🏻
@punitchoudhary4767
9 ай бұрын
😂😂
Bhai ye bevekoofi thi humare railway officers ki. Jb unko pta tha ki single tender ve nikal nhi skte to eske trail ki permission di he q. Ye reason tha Jo telgo k employee apni train wapus leke chala gya.
Rejected because of old technology offered with hefty financial offer...
To kya IR Telgo alawa aur koi bhi train lata like Eurostar Renfe aur sabse best TGV....
Percentage ka hisaab kithaab set nahin hua.
Vande Bharat trains are not that good compared to Talgo. We should have bought few and manufactured rest under licence. Development is not reinventing the wheel. The reasons to reject Talgo were known before importing. Then why they were imported in first place?
Talgo train ke regection ke baad uske coach kaha gaye wo India me hi hai ya unhe return bhej diya gaya
@manthanpatel6295
9 ай бұрын
To return hi Jaye ge na
@moderail6459
9 ай бұрын
@@manthanpatel6295 to kya Bharat ko us train ko purchase karne par jo expenses hue the wo return milenge ya nahi
@mukundramtirthkar936
9 ай бұрын
@@moderail6459😒You could have searched!! That train set was offered for testing by Talgo corporation from Spain. We didn't purchase them. One train set came via a ship, tested here by Indian Railways and sent back to the Spain. Spain was looking forward for good business deal which didn't happen.
Talgo design is too bad. Also talgo trains are not safe. Too much accidents in Spain cause it cannot turn properly on curves.
Talgo indian train se advance lekin uska technology indian conditions ke hisab sahi nhin ta
Modi ji vote system is converted to subscribe system 😅
Yeh sab trail pta kiya inta toh koi first time mei dekhkr bta de
Kam sa kam Indian Railway talgo train ke technology sa kuch to apna coach main implement karti
bhai muze hassi ati thi wap5+talgo
first of all indian trains are more spacious then european how wrong you can be
Ai sound of his is very weird 💀
I think we should cooperate with European train manufacturers for future trains
@rajumadduri6254
9 ай бұрын
As long as they manufacture and maintain the train sets locally, there should be no problem.
Aacha hua hum ne reject kiya Talgo ko. Luckily we have Vande Bharat Sleeper. Also at least you use Deepfakes for fun but I would still avoid
Acha hua nahi aaya warna kuch peaceful community kahi jani wale log ispe pathar marte or pata nahi kya kya peaceful kaam karte or india ka naam spain ke liye bhi kharab karte 😊
Semi high speed bhi nahi hai
Waah modiji waah 👏🏻
We Indians with 3.8$ trillion GDP are happy with 6% gdp growth rate, where as China with 19$ trillion Gdp are still growing with 4.4% gdp growth rate. India has crossed china in terms of population, but skilled workforce will not cross in next 50 years. Youth in India are still busy in Hindu-Muslim, Elvish vs Abhishek. No one wants to hear the truth 😢
@succmymeme572
9 ай бұрын
Bhai thoda calculate kar to pata chalega ki India haar saal 6 se 7% ke growth rate ke saath aapne GDP pe haar saal approximately 300 billion usd add karta hai Jabki Chika 900 billion se 2 trillion USD tak add kar lega. Unka chota percentage Jo tu bol raha hai 4% ka who 19 trillion dollar ka 4% hai. Hamara 9% bhi jo hai wo sirf 3.8 trillion USD ka hai. Overall mai bhi optimistic hu. Growth rate fast hai aur jaise he 3rd largest economy banenge tab growth rate me aur bhi jada tezi aayega. Aur young population ke karan aage bhi growth rahega jabki China ka Ganda waala katega kyuki population aged hoo chuka hai. Young log hai nahi waha pe. Aur abb cheap labour bhi nahi hai waha pe jaisa pahle tha. Xi ke jate hai waha Ganda waala corruption aayega. Aur agar war hua to USA aur nato mil ke pura barbad kar denge China ko.
@tejasviaanand
9 ай бұрын
@@succmymeme572Bhai aap Sapna bahut aacha dekhte ho! Mere liye ek script likhoge? Movie ke liye.
@tejasviaanand
9 ай бұрын
@@succmymeme572India me 1700 cr. Ke bridge dekhte hi gir jaate hai 😅. Hasne wala Infrastructure hai. Hamare, ham kya China se compete karenge. Aur baat rahi population ki jo aap bol rhe ho to mai aapko bta dun. India ka skilled worforce, 2100 tak bhi China ko nhi cross payega. India R&D and education dono me bahut Kam kharch karta hai. India me aaj bhi aachi education lena ek luxury hai. Ek-ek project ko complete karne ke liye 10-20 saal lag jaate hai. China ka GDP per capita 13000 usd hain Aur wahi India ka 2600$? Hame Indonesia ne bhi Puche kar diya hai. Lekin log sach nhi sunna chahete aur *"SUPERPOWER"* banna chahte hai 😢😅
@caparthpatil1905
9 ай бұрын
@@tejasviaanandPaisa kitna doge Wese bhi unemployment jyada hai😅
@hiteshadhikari
9 ай бұрын
Trust chinese numbers as much as you trust a hooker
0:33 wtf😂
Aacha hua reject kiya tabhi thoo vande bharat moli
first we need Europe like railway station
@Krankenwagen571
9 ай бұрын
No
@Juststayhopeful
9 ай бұрын
Not possible
Only reason is , afford nehi kar shakta indian railways
Agar congress government hota toh isko paisa kha ke adopt kar leta. Vande bharat k bare mein Chidambaram sochta bhi nehi aur bol deta nehi ho sakta aur bolta “ we dont have expertise “