O josh knows his stuff, great family!!!

Very good and informational video! Keep up the good work!

@AngusMoss_Archery

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

best explanation of torque tuning to date. I may dislike your choice in using 365 targets but you sir always give out solid tips/advice on tuning and setups! thank you

@AngusMoss_Archery

2 жыл бұрын

I *really* appreciate that! Thank you! 🙂 and thank you for watching!

Great video Angus.

@AngusMoss_Archery

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dad!

Just did this the other day. Thanks

@AngusMoss_Archery

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Grip, grip grip! I’ve done this before when I struggle with lefts and rights - and YES it works! Man, It is time consuming and as you said, you should - do it over a longer period of time! However, for me grip consistency has been somewhat of an issue; so, I’ve been working more on perfecting my grip. So, my testing may be inconsistent- So, I haven’t done it lately but it is in my future. And yes I do realize it is a process used to eliminate bad grip or torque but I’ll work on my weakness first. Thanks Gus for sharing your process, I’ll be using it later!

@AngusMoss_Archery

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome man! That sound good! Keep up the good work man.

I like this way better than moving my rest.

Great video

@AngusMoss_Archery

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother!

The purpose of torque tuning is that when you hold your bow your wrist acts as a pivot point. At some point in that pivot point there is a spot that is centered where between the rest gets centered or so close to centered that torquing the bow does NOT affect where the arrow will land down at the target while shooting. That's why when you torque a bow, primarily under stressful conditions, your arrow does NOT hit the mark. So you torque tune your rest (primarily) to get as close to get to that center point in your wrist. If you feel you have your rest close enough, you can then move to your sight for a little fine tuning. That's why this works.. You find that center point to the pivot point of your wrist, this then helps when shooting angles, when under stress and overall generally makes for a way way more forgiving bow setup.

@AngusMoss_Archery

2 жыл бұрын

That makes a ton of sense! However, if the rest is connected to the Burger button of the bow then the torque is still induced from the Burger button position. So even if the rest sits directly over the center of the pivot point of your wrist it still torques from the center of the riser pulling it out of a straight alignment with the sight pin when torque is induced. The more the torque, the more out of alignment they become with each other.. Theoretically, with the rest all the way forward (touching the riser) and the sight bar fully retracted (touching the riser) would be the best position to eliminate torque.. At least that's what my simple mind can handle. 😂

I have seen Page do the same thing but a little more emphasis on the rest with a big more results in terms of cutting back the L & R... Have you experimented with the rest portions or just decided you didn't want to go that route due to the brace height deal? You putting out great information! Maybe make a video on your hinge set up your seam to have it really cold and that hand is flat and fully stretched out. Bit different than most traditional. Keep them coming!

@AngusMoss_Archery

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris, I have very briefly experimented with torque tuning with the rest. I've seen the way that Paige does hers. Like I said, I don't know why torturing works but it does seem to add benefit.. So, with that said, I can't say whether or not the rest or the sight is better for adjustments for specifically eliminating left and rights.. However, I can say that, yes, moving your rest decreases the forgiveness of the bow by decreasing your brace height *and* (this is why I only messed with it briefly) its very difficult to adjust the rest in "fine" enough movements/adjust the rest from position to position. When you torque tune with your rest; every time you want to adjust your rest forward and backward you have to loosen your rest bolt. When you do that it's kind of difficult to keep track of where that rest was before you loosened it and move it accordingly. IMO. Thanks for watching the video! God Bless!

I like the idea of keeping the effective brace height. Is a 9” bar preferred over 6” bar for this kind of tuning?

Could you please elaborate on active brace height? I've watched a lot of tuning videos before and haven't come across that term.

You hold your release like me, pretty much horizontal. I find its easier and the same each time, right by the back jaw line.

@AngusMoss_Archery

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's just how my wrist ends up naturally with tension 🙂

My name is Danny and I washed your video on torque tuning. You were back at 55 yards. Would you be able to tell me what kind of slide bar you are using? It looks like Excel but I really interested in your site scope and your set up there. I’m just getting into archery and it looks really fascinating, thank you

@AngusMoss_Archery

6 ай бұрын

Hey Danny! Sorry for the late reply! I'm using an Axcel Achieve XP UHM 9 inch bar with an Axcel AV25 scope and feather vision 8X IR perfectium lens in that video. My bar length and scope size changes slightly depending on what discipline it is that I'm shooting.

@raiderdanny1951

6 ай бұрын

@@AngusMoss_Archery Thanks

What are those 2 clicks during your draw cycle?

@AngusMoss_Archery

Жыл бұрын

Cam bearing I beleave. It happens about every 15,000 shots or so.

What’s the deal with the different sight positions though?

@AngusMoss_Archery

2 жыл бұрын

Theoretically, it changes the relationship between the point of the arrow and the position of the sight pin. What thats supposed to fix is imperfections based upon how much torque you put into the grip of the bow by moving or aligning the sight into the correct position to make the arrow hit where the pin is regardless of the torque you add to the bow (to a certain degree).

@mikethadeeter

2 жыл бұрын

@@AngusMoss_Archery Interesting.

I'll never understand it. Mental block. I can't get the reasons why. You make it somewhat simple but to no avail

@AngusMoss_Archery

11 ай бұрын

I understand why it works now I just haven't had time to put a video up yet. One of these days I'll get it put up.

Come on, the first and second groups are almost EXACTLY THE SAME, because changing the distance that the sight is from the bow changes NOTHING about how the arrow leaves the bow. Torque, yes. Arrow rest, nocking point, cam alignment, etc., all yes. Put a properly shooting on a bow machine and NO MATTER WHERE THE PINS OF THE SIGHT ARE MOVED TO, THE ARROWS WILL ALWAYS, WITHIN REASON, LEAVE THE BOW AT THE SAME TRAJECTORY AND HIT THE SAME SPOT ON THE TARGET.

@AngusMoss_Archery

7 ай бұрын

I think you should consider revisiting this. The sight position has a big impact on torque tune. My research has led me to rely on rest positioning slightly more than I did before but only because I've created a way to keep related aspects of moving the rest forward and backward constant.

@hacgyver1738

7 ай бұрын

Yes, another guy responded to my statement and explained it to me. Even though the sight is a relatively light part, moving it in or out can change the torque imposed on the riser as the bow is shot. Thanks guy.@@AngusMoss_Archery