Torque Tuning
Here is an explanation of how to torque tune. This will benefit any bow hunter or target archer and will work on all different kinds of arrow rests. Give it a try, this will definitely improve the forgiveness of your set up!
Here is an explanation of how to torque tune. This will benefit any bow hunter or target archer and will work on all different kinds of arrow rests. Give it a try, this will definitely improve the forgiveness of your set up!
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Finally some useful info on KZread thank you.
This is new to me, and I am glad you posted it....thank you....I have never heard of, or tuned my bow in this way, and I think I will give it a shot.
Happy Birthday, Paige!! Thank you for another great video... fantastic!!
The best torque tuning video I've seen! Thanks for sharing.
Astounding video. Thank you explaining so clearly.
Thanks for the simple and straightforward video! Good stuff.
i was a fan before, now im crushing. sharing your passion, and educating others. thanks for being a straight shooter.
Nice to see you tightening your groups Paige. Thanks for the tip.
nice tips Paige, love to learn from you and try out things. Greatings from Germany Bernd
i just got done watching your 2020 competition ! good shooting!
Paige this demonstration is phantastic and very convincing, thank you a ton for taking the effort teaching us !
Definitely going to try this out, hoping to get a few more points! Points are tougher to come by in field after 500... Thanks for the pointers Paige, keep em' coming
Thank you so much for the video, it’s very nice to watch you and learn from you!!!
Great video Paige, keep them coming !!
Hi Paige! We just tried this out and it really works! Thank you so much for all the great info you put out. Keep putting out videos for us! 👍😀
Very well explained Paige, wish I would have had this information a few years ago, when I was still competing, would have probably kicked your butt out there! 🤣🤣🤣🎯👍
Thanks Paige - you made it easy to understand the principle - greetings from Australia - Stay Safe
Thanks Paige, I've never heard of this and this video was very informative. Definitely something to add to the tuning arsenal.
@PaigePearceinsight
4 жыл бұрын
Debi Tuttle thank you! It’s not the typical way of tuning to improve arrow flight or anything like that. But it is a very effective way to tighten your groups up if you ever have any inconsistencies. I still paper tune as I said in the video and I sometimes bare shaft tune as well, but this is something extra I always do on a new set up :)
Great demonstration!
First time I've heard of "torque tuning" very interesting ... 👍🏻😎
I had no idea this was even a thing. Thanks for sharing your experience
@johnjohnb8024
Ай бұрын
It is not a thing. Torque is bad form. You don't want to compensate for bad habits. Sorry.
@KF1
Ай бұрын
@@johnjohnb8024 I've never seen you shoot, sir, but Paige has hundreds of top level performances. I'm willing to shut and listen to her.
@johnjohnb8024
Ай бұрын
@@KF1 You don't need to see me shooting, look at her, she's using a fix rest. Explain the physics around torque tunning a bow with a fix rest.
@KF1
Ай бұрын
@@johnjohnb8024 this is yt. Go ahead and make a video to explain yourself
@johnjohnb8024
Ай бұрын
@@KF1 There is no need to create a video because what is being explained in her video is unnecessary. You should not torque your bow if your grip is right. If you ever want to do what she explains in the video, you should use an overdraw rest to exaggerate the bad grip. Don't believe me yet? Look at her own reply to @debituttle5608. Archery is all about good form, and the repetition of it. Not trying to be confrontational, too old for that 😀
Never heard of this before thanks.
Dobře TY Paige Pearce.👏👏👏 Velice působivé a kvalitně vysvětlené video.👍👍👍 Děkuji, děkuji, děkuji.👀👀👀
Thank you Paige, have a great day
Outstanding! I'll try it
I learned alot from this. Thank You Paige😀
Thank you for this i didnt even know this was a thing, this will help me a lot for hunting from a tree
Thanks for the tips.... It was helpfull today setting up a bow..
This video has helped me so much thank you!
I had no idea this was a thing. Thank you!!
Awesome going to try it now🎉
Great video! Thanks!
Thanks for sharing this Paige, it was realy good shown and explanend.
Thanks Paige, Great video
Great information, thanks!
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It was useful. Thanks for the video.
Thank you so much! This is also new for me.
This is awesome. Thanks !
Thanks Paige!
Wow! I've never heard of this way of tuning and it looks really easy! I'll be sure to give it a try! Thank You these videos are really useful!
@loboel264mag7
4 жыл бұрын
Ben Gervasi it will help if your form is good enough to see the results
Thank you for the info
Thank you for the information
Great video. Looking forward to trying this. How tight are your groups before you call it good or torque tuned?
Gorgeous
Great video thank you"
So cool .. success for u friend
Hi Paige, great video. I am defiantly going to try this with my hunting set up. I have a not related question but thought id mention it because i think you would know. I built some high FOC hunting arrows and wanted to lose even more weight of the back end so went with a fita vane but was worried about arrow flight with a big fixed blade on it. So far, out to 50 yds it's flying great! Do you see any concerns with an arrow like that using those small vanes? I haven't seen anyone else really do this. I will also say this bow/arrow has been bare shaft tuned to death, really good arrow flight. I'm sure this will change after torque tuning but worth it i think. Thanks again!!
Great video Thanks !!
Thanks great video 👍👍👍
Ive tried this @20 meters and completely failed to achieve what you did. Ill wait for spring to have an opportunity to make this second time on longer distance like 30 or 40 meters. But trying to conciously torque the bow helped me realise that I was always torqueing having my hand tensed up. So I guess it is a good test for that too and thank you for that suprise conclusion.
Really good video, hope to see more of you. Are you shooting the Reckoning 35 or 38?
Thanks loved it.
thanks for a good tip. only thing I seen different it looks like you torque it more on the first round which was way off and looking at your second group doesn't look like you torque as much as you did on the first round
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Great information ☺️☺️☺️☺️
OMG I didn't know you have a channel!! Holy cow soo cool
@PaigePearceinsight
4 жыл бұрын
John Zarn haha thank you!! I just recently started it... I figured it would be nice to have somewhere to put some videos because I wanted to start doing more of that :)
Hi, Paige! Thanks for teaching us about torque tuning. I understand that you move the arrow rest forward and backward to torque tune, but I was curious which direction you moved it in this video and how you knew which way to go?
@PaigePearceinsight
4 жыл бұрын
Eli Hopper My rest was already way close to the bow so I knew I would need to move it back. But for everyone that spot will be different so you just have to move it and check. It’s basically just test it till you find the spot that works. :)
@Bluehill29
4 жыл бұрын
@@PaigePearceinsight Got it. Thanks!
You're my gal for tuning kid... thx
Nice video
Yep!!!! She's a winner!
This is very interesting and I have never seen this type of tuning before, I normal paper tune and just leave it at that. But since watching a couple of your videos I have also done paper tuning then moving the rest to tighten groups. Now I have seen this torque tuning technique and will try it when I get my new rest. My question is… if I torque tune at say 20metres will that work at all distances from 10m to 60m with one setting? I shoot field so lots of different distances in one shoot. Cheers Richard
What you did is great! I am a traditional bow shooter. If I make the rest of my traditional bow adjustable, Could I get the same result as yours? Thank you.
Paige Pearce has a KZread channel. Awesome! Subbed
It's fantastic! Would you kindly tell me what is your draw weight? Thank you.
Thank you!!!
Awesome
Thanks!!!
Well done young lady. I learned something new tonight. Does this work with wisker biscuits
if the torqued arrow lands in the direction the stabilizer on the torque points to then adjust the rest backwards. if opposite, frontwards. That's why Paige had to move the rest backwards if you look closely.
Do you go back after you paper tune and Tork test again? Ok when you paper tune how do you move and what? Thanks Dan
I guess the direction forward or backwards will be determined at testing an do you risk level issues moving the rest thanks
What do you think about FOC arrows in target shooting? Thanks Dan
Nice video, useful info. Where did you get the circular large target you pin the paper targets to? Looking for something like that.
@PaigePearceinsight
3 жыл бұрын
That is a whitetail target. I just ordered from their website :)
Could you show us how you tape your bow grip and with what tape you use. Thanks
Beauty archer
That's a great tip. Can you show paper tuning and what you look for as far as the paper and where the arrow is in relation to your bow?
@PaigePearceinsight
4 жыл бұрын
marcos huerta haha yeah I just realized right at the beginning I said paper tuning instead of torque tuning 🤦🏼♀️ we had just been talking about that. I can do a video on how to paper tune, but every bow I have my arrow will be in a different spot based off how I set it up there is no similar spot I run my rest.
@marcoshuerta8661
4 жыл бұрын
@@PaigePearceinsight yeeaahhhh, I noticed that the first time I watched it I like this isn't paper tuning. Lol it's fine you pretty much answered my question last night. I shot a bullet hole now I'm going to French tune and leave it at that. Just work on my consistency with my anchor and release.
Thank ya!!
I didn't even know this was a thing. Thanks, now I got even more shit I gotta do to my bow. 😪
I have a question that nobody seems to have an answer for, and that is, Is it possible to shoot arrows with a helical +/- 2Deg. using a blade rest? I don't want to use a drop away rest on my competition bow and I don't want to use strait fletching either. So help from a Pro would be much appreciated. Thanx Paige.
Would you do this with a drop away too ? Or just blade rest ?
Paige, outstanding explanation. Does paper tuning afterwards affect the torque tuning????? My bow when I was at Bowtech paper tuned my bow. Now if I torque tune, does that affect my paper tuning???? Sorry I missed you when you were at Bowtech!!!!! I definitely can see you creating a Paige Pearce school!!!! God bless and be safe in your travels? Thankyou
Paige, love the video first of all. Did you say that you paper-tuned first? Did you walk-back tune at all? What distance are you doing your testing at? Thanks so much, great info!
@PaigePearceinsight
4 жыл бұрын
Bill Jones I paper tune first just to get it close, not perfect. I just wanna make sure the arrows aren’t coming out totally crazy before I torque tune. And I don’t walk back tune. I paper tune rough, then torque tune, then paper tune for real, then I basically just go shoot it. If it groups how I want I leave it if not I’ll try bareshaft tuning. For me I know what I expect it to shoot and how forgiving I want it to be. Some set ups they are good to go just after torque and paper tuning. Other set ups I might try 10 different things before I get it as forgiving as I want it.
@billjones9708
4 жыл бұрын
@@PaigePearceinsight thanks for the reply. What distance are you torque tuning from.
Awesome video and great explanation. I have the Bowtech Reckoning Gen2 36 with 32.5" draw length. My arrows torque in the opposite direction. But my rest is already as much towards the target as it can go and the sight as close to the riser as it gets. Is there anything I can do?
@PaigePearceinsight
10 ай бұрын
It very well may be that it’s too close together. Try running it back quite a bit and see if that changes it. Most people have to run the sight and rest further apart than what they normally have it. So try it drastically the other way because usually both things close together isn’t the answer. Once you have tested all of that, the other thing you can easily change is the tightness of your flex guard on that bow. That changes the rotational deflection of the bow which changes the torque tune! My best guess is run your rest back and sight out and I bet that’s what you need. It’ll be bad if you’re too close together and bad if you’re too far apart so it’s just finding that middle sweet spot. If you test all that then try changing the flex guard (no way to know if it needs to be tighter or looser) but whenever you adjust it then you have to go back to testing your rest forward and back again! Hope that helps!
@thorwaldjohanson2526
10 ай бұрын
@@PaigePearceinsight thanks for the answer paige. I misunderstood the tuning direction of where to move your sight when a left torque cause a right deflection. Moving my axcel xp 6" out to like 3" solved it. That was the point where it flipped. Further out a left torque cause a left deflection and further in a right deflection. Groups are tighter now and the bow is better tuned. My pro shop sold me underspined arrows though, (400 on a 32.5" 60lbs reckoning gen 2). So I'm getting into building my own arrows now too :D. Further down the rabbit hole..
Interesting idea, changing the sight radius to minimize the effect of lateral torque. You mentioned the key to all this is keeping a proper sight picture within your peep, that seems critical. I would assume changing the radius also changes your sight calibration.
@simonhooper2458
4 жыл бұрын
Yep & that is why she uses the rest, also the rest reacts far more with much smaller movements than the sight
Can you torque tune your bow along with French tuning to get the same results
Hi Paige, As a new shooter I need to be able to set everything myself! How do I know I am buying the right arrow for my bowtech SS34 with 60 LBS drawweight and 27.5" draw length? Now I have an easton carbon Powerflight 500 7.3gpi, but I already had this one.
Maybe I missed it but does this work with drop away rests?
What scope do you use?
Hi Paige...thanks for the info...curious how far do you recommend being from the target when you are torque tuning?
@PaigePearceinsight
4 жыл бұрын
Joe Diffie I do it at whatever distance I’ll be shooting most. So for indoor I do it at 20 yards for outdoor I do it at 50 meters since that’s where I shoot fita.
This was fantastic, Paige. Thank you. May I ask why you like your rear stabilizer on the right side of your bow? That’s something I’ve never tried.
@PaigePearceinsight
4 жыл бұрын
ArcheryTalk of course! It’s not something anyone should try, they will just either need it that way or they won’t. It’s how you hold the bow. Based off your hand grip you will need back weight on one one side of the bow to keep your bubble in the middle, and for me that just happens to be the right. If I had my weight on the left side my bow would wanna can’t wayyy to the left. So it’s just where I needed my weights to keep my bubble center :)
@RockwellArchery
4 жыл бұрын
Scott Starnes and few other pros do it, Im sure its just a feel thing.
@ArcheryTalkVideo
4 жыл бұрын
Paige Pearce Thank you. Great info.
My Epsilon doesn't move in/out (direct riser mount). Is there a way to accomplish this with the sight, or should I go back to the universal mount?
Great vid .. what's the difference between tork tuning and French tuning.
@simonhooper2458
4 жыл бұрын
French tuning is adjusting the rest left & right to tighten up arrow groups at different distances when using correct form. Torque tuning is tuning the rest backward & forward to tighten arrow groups when torque is applied. This means small imperfections in form from shot to shot should still hit the middle.
I notice that your grip placement when shooting your bow is place high on the bows shelf, whereas on your video using the spit fire shot release trainer, your grip is not as high, its place on the handle. is there a reason for difference in grip placement?
Did you move the rest BACK? What does this actually do, change the dynamic spine of the arrow? Very, very interesting!
@PaigePearceinsight
10 ай бұрын
In this video I moved it back. But I didn’t say purposely initially because I really wanted people to try both for themselves to see what’s best! It doesn’t have to do with the arrow as much as it has to do with the rotational deflection of the bow. Every bow will have a different amount of natural torque from static to full draw, then you add whatever person is shooting the bow and that’s another factor, arrow length actually is too but that’s way too complicated for most people, and then the tightness or placement of your cable guard/ flex guard changes it drastically as well. So you are basically using this to find the point that all of that is canceled out and you can torque it all over and not miss. Totally an awesome way to tune, everyone should do it on every bow. This is the one type of tuning no one can argue with because there’s nothing it hurts to include this step on every set up, and it is undeniable :)
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What is recommended when torque tuning? moving the arrow rest forwards or backwards? Does moving the rest forward make the spread further apart or does moving the arrow rest backwards make the arrow spread further apart?
@PaigePearceinsight
9 ай бұрын
It’s different on every bow. Depending on your bows natural rotation deflection plus the natural torque every person puts on the bow, where you start your rest and sight length, arrow length, flex guard position, etc all of that is a factor. So I can’t tell you which way to move it, you just have to try it both ways and see which one makes it better for you personally :)
I want to know how to find the node of my arrow and where the arrow should hit the rest in relation to the node. My setup right now is extremely unforgiving.
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it's still not going to exactly hit the middle because you're still torqueing the bow, but I agree that torque tuning will help get the maximum forgiveness that you can get.