You are not wrong. You are 100% right. Thanks for this video!! I hope as many people as possible can watch it and stop defending this nonesense just because Samsung it's going to give it a 50MP sensor. Keep up the good work!!

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Thanks mate. Samsung might prove me wrong but to be honest I can almost bet that it's a bad move. Thanks for watching the video and stay safe.

Hi guys. Check out this video and hear me out. With this video I just want to give you my humble opinion as to why I think Samsung's move of going back to 5X optical zoom instead of improving the 10X optical zoom is not a good move. ONCE AGAIN, this is my personal opinion and I'm happy to be proven wrong and even change my stance but as of now, I think it's a bad move and I want to show you why from my point of view. I would like to have a RESPECTFUL debate and HEALTHY exchange of ideas. What are your thoughts about it?

Let’s imagine samsung does some magic and prove that the new 5x zoom can create pictures as good as the old 10x lens, what are they going to do with video recording? I don’t think it’s possible to match the video recording capabilities of both lenses, even if the new sensor has a technically higher resolution

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

They are just counting on numbers and the higher MP count will be a selling point with probably little to none real improvement. I've seen this year over year. Thanks for watching the video and stay safe.

I get your point and I highly agree with you.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Thanks mate and thanks for watching the video. Stay safe.

Very good analysis!! 👌👍🏻

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!! Always doing my best. Thanks for watching the video and stay safe.

Good point by you. I think the best solution is having 3x and say 7x or 8x. That would be better. Another point is that the 5x in new samsung is 50MP. So it has more resolution and maybe in 10x it is not worse than previous generation. More pixels can compensate the drawback.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

The Pixel 7 / 8 Pro have the 5X with 48MP and though they are good they are not jaw dropping especially at night. All these higher MP count looks more like a marketing stunt to me for the most part. What Samsung should have done is to improve the 10X optical zoom not get rid of it. Thanks for watching the video and stay safe.

I have seen some first impressions from KZreadrs who have been given their S24 Ultra phones. Some telephoto photo samples seem to show that the 5x telephoto is matching or even bettering the S23 Ultra 10x. The 10x has a 1/3.52 sensor which is smaller than the 5x sensor @1/2.52 in the S24 Ultra. So when cropping in to match the 10x, the S24 Ultra will be using roughly the same area size as the S23 Ultra. The 50mp pixels also gather more detail than the 10mp ,especially in good light. When cropping to 30x with both phones, the S24 Ultra will have similar or more pixels as the S23 Ultra at the same magnification. In low light, pixel binning and AI may play a part. The 5x aperture is F/3.4 in the S24 Ultra, but the S23 Ultra is F/4.9. Another advantage to the S24 Ultra. Video zooming using all cameras is now available without stopping to change cameras. It's not all rosy. AI seems to be active when using long zoom, especially with text. Proof will be direct comparison and resolution tests in all conditions. Overall there are improvements, but I am sticking with my S23 Ultra.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Based on what I've seen I'm still not convinced. 10x digital might match up the 10x optical but it's digital nonetheless. I'm very curious to see the 30x zoom which is very good on the S23 Ultra and the best I've seen so far. 100X zoom too. Tomorrow I'm planning to go to the shop to check out a couple of things and maybe pre order it.

I think a new 5x is a good idea cz if you notice on the note20 ultra the quality change between 5x and 10x is not that dramatic it keeps a good amount of detail whereas the new S24 ultra should have a 50Mp 5x lens so the jump to 10x should be as sharp 😉

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Yes but It will still be 10X digital zoom regardless of the quality improvements. It's better to improve the quality of the 10X optical zoom than of the 10X digital zoom. Thanks for watching the video. Stay safe.

@BLAKEEATS1988

4 ай бұрын

10x doesn't make sense. If you think about it, 06. To 1x to 3x to 10x? It's a huge jump. Now 0.6 to 1x to 3x to 5x makes sense. Besides the crop isn't digital it uses in sensor cropping meaning you still get optical quality coz you're using the sensor for that additional 10x on the 5x lens. And also on capturing videos the more 10x doesn't make any sense imagine taking a video from 0.6x to 1x to 3x then suddenly you'd jump to 10x? So the quality from 3x to 9.9x is going to be crap because the 3x lens only has 10mp so it would suffer a lot. The 5x is a far better choice compared to the 10x it has a bigger sensor, a bigger aperture, and more pixels so when you use it to jump from 5x to 10x it won't suffer a lot. Edit: I have the s23 ultra the 10x optical zoom sucks. It's overexposed during the day and noisy during the night. You can't take 8k videos with it, you can make portrait shots with it and it's so shaky and only made for one thing. Zoom. But again the new 5x is 50 mp so meaning more pixels to work with it will bin down to 12 mp making the light gathering 160% better than last years 10x, it has a bigger sensor, bigger aperture as well. Trust me, it's better and it has more use.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

@BLAKEEATS1988 Well, I went to the shop this week to order the S24 Ultra and I took the time to do an initial test vs my S23 Ultra, Pixel 8 Pro and Note 20 Ultra. Based on that limited test (Just pics no videos) I wasn't happy with the results. Also, based on some of the videos I've seen, I've got the same feeling. I heard that Samsung is going to release an update today. It'd better be good because it's really necessary. I'm happy to eat my words but so far it looks like I might be right with my opinion.

@BLAKEEATS1988

4 ай бұрын

@@Soto-Tech2020 I stated all the advantages and disadvantages of the old sensor vs the new sensor. Feel free to read again.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

@@BLAKEEATS1988 I've read everything word by word. Read mine carefully too. One thing is specs on paper like all those mid rangers with 108MP or 200MP and they are crap. Real life test and results is what really counts.

Makes sense i actually didn't know about this

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Yep, thanks for watching the video and stay safe.

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@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Maybe. Thanks for watching the video. Stay safe.

Since it is very difficult to put 2 periscope lenses in a phone ,what samsung should have done was Put a non periscope 3.2x (xiomi 13 ultra ) telephoto coupled with highly optimised 200 mp sensor and a 10x periscope telphoto with a 50 mp sensor The 200mp 3.2 x sensor would handle everything up to 10x with grace and also handle low light much better and the 50 mo 10x sensor would do a sensor crop till 20x even in low light and that would destroy the competition.... I would surely skip the s24 ultra ...i bet it wont be able to match the vivo 4.3 X with all the ziess coating and night mode improvements . I feel ditching the 10x and going back 4 years to a 5x is a mistake for sure . The competition at 5x is too much for samsung to match . Plus the new 8gen 3 might heat up more and consume more battery....they did not increase the battery capacity..... Overall this time Samsung is going to learn from the s24 fiasco and s25 ultra will have 10x back and a larger battery I loved my s20 ultra s22 ultra and s23 ultra ...

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, not feeling very excited about the S24 Ultra anymore. I'm planning to get it but mainly for the channel and to certain extent to see the likely mistake by myself. Thanks for watching the video and your insight. Stay safe.

The logic is : It was 10 MP ( well actually 12 mp with 10 mp crop for stabilization) at 10x at 5 x we have 4 times the scene area in viewfinder then to match optical 10x quality with in sensor crop we will need 4 times larger sensor than @ 10x keeping the same pixel size. That ain't happening thus samsung has to resort to AI to upscale the image back to 10x quality. Till till 10x it will work fine , anything post that is diecy!

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Yes, probably. 30X zoom on the Pixel 7 / 8 Pro is OK (better on the 7 Pro to my eyes) but it can't beat Samsung's 30X zoom even on the S21 Ultra. Thanks for watching the video and stay safe.

Off topic, happy belated birthday. I won't mention your age young man, but you are exactly 11 years younger than me. If and when you see me, you would be surprised that I am my age. As I said in my previous reply, let's see the tests when the S24 Ultra is released. The 3x zoom needs to be increased to 5x, slightly physically larger sensor and 20mp. The 10x 10mp camera stays. The 200mp sensor used in 50mp mode practically matches the 3x zoom when cropped to match!

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Thanks mate!! Trying to stay fit or get fitter in this 2024, my new year resolution!! Anything except dropping the 10X optical zoom in favour of the 5X optical zoom. Thanks for watching the video and your insight once again. Stay safe!!

@konradc12

4 ай бұрын

I cycle a lot and have ridden 11400 miles for 2023. I do drive, but find it quicker to get around. Most of my cycling is for fitness and exploring. This is why my S23 Ultra is important. I used to carry an old Lumix camera until I lost it. It is safer and easier with my phone in my waste bag.

They need ro improve the already good 10x zoom not downgrade it to 5x. Just increase the megapixels.. the 10mp zoom cameras on the S23 Ultra imo, is not enough in 2023-2024. Make it 50mp like vivo x100 pro has.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Good point. Thanks for watching the video and your opinion. Stay safe.

There are some advantages to be gained with the Samsung S24 Ultra 5x telephoto will be better lower light detail, more pixels for cropping in, pixels binning so those pixels combine to for a large pixel, so less noise in low light. The bigger sensor size and brighter aperture should give a better performance. If you get do get the S24 Ultra, a detailed comparison like other reviewers will be eagerly viewed.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

I'm not sure about that. The Pixel 7 and 8 Pro have 5X optical zoom with a 48MP and it's ok not something super impressive and especially at night. There are phones with 108MP sensor on the main camera and they are not that great and especially at night. Thanks for watching the video and your opinion. Stay safe.

@konradc12

4 ай бұрын

@@Soto-Tech2020 I am enjoying my S23 Ultra and the 10x telephoto is great. My issues is zooming from 3x to just before the 10x kicks in. I used carry my Lumix compact cameras while out cycling, until I lost one last year (a 11 year old TZ30). This is why I got the S23 Ultra, less things to carry and still have a flexible camera. I have a couple of Lumix cameras - TZ90 and TZ100, and both are great. The S23 Ultra is close until after 40x when the Lumix cameras real optical zoom takes over. Can't wait to see how the S24 Ultra performs.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

@konradc12 Me too though the more I hear about it the less excited I am to be honest.

It's 5X at 50 Mpx versus 10x at 10Mpx..., The 5X can be better in certains cases.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Don't fall for that hype of the higher MP. The 5X optical zoom on the Pixel 7 and 8 Pro has 48MP and though it's not bad (I personally think it's slightly better on the 7 Pro) it's nothing really to throw a party about especially at night. Thanks for watching the video and stay safe.

10x outdoors is a game changer.. samsung are being ridiculous

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Yes, 10X is the sweet spot for me. Like I said in the video you don't really get any closer shot with the 5X zoom. Just basically the actual distance between you and the subject.

Samsung knows what they're doing ,just wait for optimizations

@Soto-Tech2020

9 күн бұрын

Sadly, not always. Thanks for watching the video. Stay safe.

In my opinion with 200mp main they should have ditched 3x, as software optimized 2x, 3x focal length digitally can be enough... And should come up with either variable 5x to 10x better resolution periscope lense or two fixed 5x & 10x lenses, but for sure more than 10mp resolution... May be S25U will be the one...

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Kind of my thoughts. I would have preferred they had ditched the 3X optical zoom for the same reasons you mention but I might be wrong on that one thanks for watching the video and stay safe.

Samsung talks about AI enhanced 10x zoom. They've always programmed their phones to produce overly processed pics even from telephoto lenses without cropping, now they can do it in white gloves haha

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

All I know is that this massive hype on AI looks more like another marketing stunt because there is nothing else to really do to get people excited and buy products. The sad thing is that people will really fall for it without even thinking critically. Thanks for watching the video. Stay safe.

@-JACCOB-

4 ай бұрын

Samsung full of hypes nowadays!@@Soto-Tech2020

They like copying Apple.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

As much as I love Samsung and hate to admit it that's the reality sometimes unfortunately. Thanks for watching the video and stay safe.

@konradc12

4 ай бұрын

No, more like copying Pixel and a few of the chinese phones which use a large sensor with around 50mp. The iPhone 15 Pro is 12mp which means less detail when cropping in. The iPhone is not good after 15x crop.

@1sonjohn44

4 ай бұрын

@@konradc12 cool

The 5x zoom camera in the Samsung S24 series will provide good results with artificial intelligence. It will even be better than the old 10x telephoto for night shots. But 10x telephoto was quite useful for many conditions. I wish there were two telephotos, 5x and 10x, instead of removing the 10x telephoto.

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

Yes, Samsung should have probably kept the 10X zoom and improve it. Thanks for watching the video. Stay safe.

Samsung has lost it. Nobody like the overprocessed stuff

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

It's not so much about overprocessing. It's mainly about instead of focusing on improving a good idea it goes back to sth that Samsung doesn't have to and might not even be that great compared to what we have now. Thanks for watching the video and stay safe.

@nolinordwora5574

4 ай бұрын

Speak for yourself and by the way the majority of the time Samsung process makes the pictures more appealing , I'm sure many people would have chosen the note 20 ultra if there were no labels to differentiate them

@SocialPerspective101

4 ай бұрын

@@nolinordwora5574 LoL...not much of a photographer r u?

Also will need to see how big of an aperture difference is for new 5x lens conpared to older 10x . If the physical aperture stays relatively the same we would be basically gettibg the same amount of light at 10x in night on a relativeky smaller sensor area. Aperture & sensor size are going yo be rhe key factors driving image quality & not the increase MP no. I suppose these two parameters won't get upped sufficiently to imorove night time zoom post 10x. I supsect it would rather get worse

@Soto-Tech2020

4 ай бұрын

For me the whole questioning is, why going back to 5X optical zoom even if it's the best in detriment of the 10X optical zoom instead of improving it not swapping it for the 5X optical zoom? Thanks for watching the video and your opinion. Thanks for watching the video and stay safe.