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Oh thank you for sharing this great information. In October I ran my fifth Marine Corps Marathon. I had made a goal to run the marathon at least five times (you know to be a real runner) and I made it. However, this last one (Oct 2023) was absolutely horrible and I was in tears just a couple miles in and wanted to quit. I didn’t quit, but I spent all of those miles focusing on how I would never do it again. It was one of the worst experiences for me and I have not run one step since. That’s three months of no running and even worse I’ve gained 20 pounds sitting on my couch. So as you can imagine my self esteem has plummeted. I’m embarrassed to see people. I haven’t told anyone that I’ve gone to crap and given up, until now telling you. Now I watched your video and I’m actually thinking of turning this around and starting over. Maybe I still have something left and I don’t have to be fast or miserable with such a huge goal in front of me. Well, I’ll let you know if I get off my couch in the near future. I hope I can do it. Thanks Coach.

@maurorenard82

5 ай бұрын

I am sorry to hear about how you felt after October. Therefore, I wanted to point out that being a runner is much more than running a marathon. First of all, is running for the sake of it, for the joy it brings you just to go out and run. Moreover, there are other distances to try, I think people focus too much on running marathons and think it is the only distance that matters, but it isn’t. Half marathons are very enjoyable, it is shorter, so you can up the pace; or 10k races, where you have to up the pace way more, but keep some gas in the tank to finish the race in proper form; and 5k races, where you can go almost all in from the beginning, because it is short and allows you to speed up way more than the other distances. Last but not least, just go out and run without a goal, just for fun, and get those endorphins out of your system 🎉

@runningshoes8595

5 ай бұрын

@Maurorenard82 thank you very much for the great points. They are spot on and I need to change my thinking. There was a time that I loved running more than anything. It felt good and I could work through life’s challenges with every step. Reading your message brings me back to those days, those moments. I appreciate it very much.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for being vulnerable and sharing your story. I am so sorry to hear that you had a hard experience at MCM this year - I know it was an extra warm day, too. To be just a couple of miles in and wanting to quit just shows how much heart you had to see it all the way through. Know you are brave and know that you belong. It's also OK you took a break from the sport - it sounds like you needed it. But I'm glad to hear you're getting glimmers again of getting back out to do something you previously enjoyed. Being a runner gets to be whatever you want it to be!! But number one it should bring you joy. You don't have to do any certain thing or look a certain way to be a "real" runner. You are amazing just the way you are. Hopefully you can get out for a walk this week and maybe, just maybe, you'll feel like getting two feet in the air at the same time. Sending all the hugs!

@runningshoes8595

5 ай бұрын

Oh thank you so much for listening to me and for taking even more time to offer me this extra encouragement. I am so appreciative of you! I’m going to turn this around this week. Maybe just start with a walk like you said. Thank you thank you thank you!

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

You'll be so happy you did! @@runningshoes8595

I think it’s so important to be ok doing things even if we are not the best or even good at it. I was just talking to this small teenage girl yesterday and she was saying how much she loved fighting (karate/kickboxing) because she is not made for it but she still wants to surprise people with what she is capable of. But consistency truly has paid off for her!

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Truth!! I was just thinking how many people have a talent they don't even realize because they don't try it or they don't give it a fair shot. Love this girl's attitude - that matters far more than being born with the "right" qualities.

A heartfelt thank you Jane. Thanks for what you do. Just what I needed to hear.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

So happy it resonated with you, Jose. You are so welcome!

I needed to hear this today. Thank you, Jane.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

I am so happy to hear it resonated with you and thanks for watching!

Great story and fantastic advice. Thanks for sharing.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, Kevin!

Great advice! I'm going into my 5th marathon this coming fall and I think I've gone through most of thos same realizattions and I wish I learned them earlier! I've loved following your journey here on KZread. Thanks for sharing all your advice.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

It definitely takes time to learn it all! The patience is so important. And I appreciate you so much for following along and being here! Congrats on 4 marathons under your belt and hope your training is incredible for the next one!

Well Coach Jane, I'm actually pretty grateful that you came along and started KZread vids, and I think your timing is rather perfect. Sure, "my body" has a few issues which (my doctor thinks will "exclude" any marathons in the future), but your vids are a wealth of great information for any exercises that I'm currently doing, and you are inspiring as well. I have NO regrets watching and learning from you. Thank You and have an awesomeness day Coach.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

It would certainly be a different channel if I had had it all figured out all along LOL. Love being able to take what I've learned and share it with all of you - a true joy! Thanks for always being here and supporting the channel!

What an amazing video, such great information. Thank you so much for sharing.

@runningwithjane

4 ай бұрын

So glad you found it helpful, Eddie!

Great advice Coach Jane. Your knowledge and plans have helped me tremendously. I’m looking forward to another half and my first full marathon this year. Also, just signed up for a February 5k to gain some more race experience.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the kind words and it makes me so happy to hear the advice and training has helped you!! February 5k will be a fun fitness test and always great to toe the line and practice with those nerves and pushing through discomfort. Best of luck!

Great points!

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Thank you for making this video. It literally brings me to tears, because it's like I'm listening to a big sister who has gone through all of the exact same things I'm going through now. I just ran my worst half marathon.. and this is after I ran my worst marathon (my 2nd marathon). I feel so defeated, but almost like a wake up call defeated. A slap in the face. I've become too cocky running thinking that because I've ran 7 other halfs, I don't need to train as much or as hard or eat well or sleep well or anything. I'm literally acting like a crazy person. I need to fix myself, fix my base miles and reset. I want to feel joy and love for running again. These past 3 months have felt like a chore. And I've hated almost every run I've done. But I honestly have felt so alone in the way that I feel in regards to training. So this video and your others are really helping me reevaluate my running priorities. I'm going to work on being better before I look at signing up for another race. I can do it!

@runningwithjane

Ай бұрын

You CAN do it, Gorgie!! Truly believe you have to fall in love with the routine and process first. The rest will often naturally come. And often it's just a few small holes in your training that can change everything!

Wow. This was great to see. I really appreciate hearing your story and can relate. I was a very good cross country/ road running athlete in high school. There was some college interest but I decided like an idiot that the party lifestyle was more fun during my Junior year. I jumped into that lifestyle until my mid 20’s. When I got to my 30’s and was married and having a family, I started really having strong regrets over this decision I had made while I was so young. When I turned 40 I found myself in the worst shape of my life. Along with my wife we lost a lot of weight and began running to get our cardio in. I rediscovered my love of running and quickly started getting better. For fun I decided to try a race. 3 years and 19 races later here I am with 2 weeks until my 3rd half marathon. I feel guilty about missing my “peak” time and what I could have accomplished. That fuels me now and I feel blessed that I can at least use my time now to accomplish as much as I physically can with good training. We plan to run our 1st marathon next March. Sorry this was so long, but this video really helped. It’s awesome that we can relate with others by hearing their story. If someone reads this comment just know, it’s never too late to accomplish thing you didn’t think you could. I love videos, like this. Thanks, Coach Jane!

@runningwithjane

3 ай бұрын

Hi Jason!! Thank you for taking the time to share your story!! I'm so proud of you and your wife! I just shared in my email newsletter about an athlete I coach who is mid-50s, lost a 100 pounds a couple years ago (so did his wife!), and just qualified for Boston on his second marathon. You're right, it's never too late and no regrets!! We only get one life...we can't change the past but we can change the here and now to be the best versions of ourselves. Keep going and can't wait to hear your progress!

Thanks Jane! Running on the treadmill as I watch this 🎉

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Glad it can help you pass the time! I definitely like watching KZread when on the treadmill, too!

This resonated so much! Thank you!

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Oh I'm so glad to hear that, Janice! Happy running!

@staceyebert1431

5 ай бұрын

I feel like you were speaking directly to me Jane lol. I’ve made all these mistakes over the years. I’m heading into a new marathon season after a 4 year hiatus… I appreciate all your advice and will be checking out your coaching page. Good luck this year and thanks again for this amazing channel♥️

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Hi Stacey - I'm happy to hear you found the info helpful and that's so exciting you're about to embark on another marathon training cycle. You're clearly doing the right research to prep well and have a great experience! If I can answer anymore questions about our coaching options, please let me know! @@staceyebert1431

I'm running Austin next month, first since 1998. This time a lot of slow running, avoiding injury, and I have a heart monitor to guide pace. Hope it sticks and can build on next time. Final long run tomorrow. Great channel.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Wow, that's awesome!! I love that for you...just shows it's never too late and we can always come back to something when the time is right. Sounds like you are training right and that you're setting yourself up for a great experience!

All great advice Jane. Every now and then I think about building up for a marathon and I can certainly cover some respectable distance, my heart just doesn't seem to be in it. It is definitely a commitment and I've "half done" the training before for a full and it never works out well. They also get a LOT harder as you get older. I never want to say never again on it, and it is a question I wrestle with every year -- do I want to run one this year? I am definitely more educated about them but I also enjoy doing what I am doing now. Lots of thoughts. I have run 27 of them though and I loved hearing your marathon journey and how you came back to the distance.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Hi Eddie - I really appreciate this perspective and you sharing your grappling with the decision. I think it's very different for someone like you who has put your time in with 27 marathons...you've worked hard it and you know what it means to push yourself. You're coming from a place of wisdom for sure. For me it was the realization that I never even really gave myself a real chance to be good at it or figure out how to train right. I certainly understand not wanting to put the time into it year after year; I'm having those thoughts myself right now about figuring out what that right balance is because training in 2023 for me was a lot. There is more to life than just fast times and marathons that's for sure 😉

I had never run in my life, and hired a running coach 11 years ago. It was one of my best decisions, ever! We are still working together and I wouldn't be running, today, if not for her!

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

That is so amazing you guys have been working together 11 years!! I can only imagine the progress that you've been able to make in that time. Super cool and thank you for sharing!

I’m glad that I signed up for training for nearly all of last year: stepped up to a 10K race, then a half, training required a 20 Miler race, then our marathon (CIM). During that time I was coached in form and fueling and we had speed work midweek and long runs Saturdays. I saw my biggest improvement nearly at the end (more like the last two months) and I was still tuning my fueling until the last month. Having people around you who pay attention and have some good experience makes all the difference.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

It really does! Definitely have to be ready to take the feedback though and adjust, right? I'm not so sure I would've been opening to listening back then...who knows. I'm just so happy I opened up to seeing my weaknesses, improving on them and trying again. And kudos to you for trusting the process and doing the same. 🫶

I’m 41. Ran my first half marathon last April in 1:54:00. Spent the summer really working on my base to start marathon training. I was hit with a metatarsal stress fx in august. I have recovered but I still feel floored because I’ve lost all Vo2 efficiency. Need a boost to get to work again.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry that happened to you - running injuries are the worst! Start with easy running and build your base first, then add in that weekly speed session again after you've built up good volume. Be smart with it and you'll get back to that place soon enough and getting even stronger than before!

What's the old saying? "We don't regret the things we do. We regret the things we don't do."

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Certainly fits in this situation! And yeah, I think we miss out on so much because we are too afraid to take a chance on ourselves. Thanks for this!

@Wings_nut

5 ай бұрын

@@runningwithjane Of course. My regret is stubbornly not listening to my body. Thx, Jane :-)

How could you not know about gels and fueling.. you said you were in a run club I find it crazy no one ever told you😅 fortunately a seadoned vet told me all about that before my 1st half and it helped lots!

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

So this was 2005, and I can't say I literally never heard anyone talk about fueling. But we all know when starting something new there is so much to learn and sometimes you gotta hear it a lot more than once. I also am pretty introverted and don't go out of my way to talk to new people so that prob didn't help 😆 Also just pulled out my one book I had back then about running and it has one tiny paragraph about how to fuel a long run and it doesn't even come close to recommending enough. A lot more experts on this topic now thankfully!

Jane, I am happy to say I signed up for my first half marathon!!! I was wondering if you think it is necessary to have both a tempo run and interval run in my week of training? I am really trying to keep strength training and yoga / mobility a good part of my training but it’s hard to fit it all in.. esp with easy runs. I was thinking - tempo/speed run (alternating every week), easy run, full body lift, rest (yoga/mobility), long run, easy run, full body lift, rest (yoga/mobility) Would love your thoughts.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Hi Mya! That is so exciting! Just one speed session per week is best for most runners. Totally agree with alternating speed weeks - one week tempo, next week intervals, and then 2 easy runs per week and a long run. The yoga and lift days are great as well! You have a solid plan that allows you to put all the pieces together that way and put aerobic endurance training at the forefront. Wishing you best of luck!

I would add 'Running alone is not enough' - especially for older runners (like me) it is important to warm-up, cool-down and do some form of strength training. Rehab takes a lot of time, is frustrating and can be costly - so a little bit of prehab goes a long way.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

So true, so true. I think these were the basics that got me really moving in the right direction, but yep, I battled PF and tendonitis in 2018 and luckily I was able to make it through on my own, but after that I became a huge proponent of consistent strength training and going to the PT when something comes up! Yes, to the prehab!!

I said the same thing after finishing Boston and darn it I've stuck to my word.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Ha! Which year of Boston?!

I like your videos, you give good advice and enjoy your race planning and recaps. I am running my 2nd marathon, Boston, my 1st was CIM in 22'. I only got to 40 miles a week but still ran a 2:40, so hoping to put in more volume for Boston to break 2:40.. keep up the great videos!

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Holy moly that is an amazing first marathon performance. I'm curious, because of your channel name, were you also doing swimming and biking in addition to your 40 mpw of running? I think you will LOVE Boston! And thank you for the kind words about the channel!

@swimbikerunwithmike

5 ай бұрын

@runningwithjane I actually came off of offroad triathlon season, so my fitness was good but only running at most 25 miles a week. After worlds I had 7 weeks, but I was yasso 800's for speed work.

So when and where is your next marathon? And no going to out to restaurants the night before.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

LOL! The pizza was actually two nights before haha. Next marathon will likely be fall. Prepping to train for a half PR later this spring.

Hey Jane I am 6 weeks out from the myrtle beach marathon and half marathon........and i cant make up my mind if i want shoot for a PR in the half, or full.......My best marathon time is 4 hours and 1 min done back in 2019, in 70 degrees and high humidity......i tried to beat that time in 2022 and failed miserably in second half in 2022 bec of high humidity ended up doing 4 16.....but now i feel like im faster and stronger...My half in training is around 1 44 and 1 45 fastest ive ever done 13 miles training. And now i can do easy 20 miler runs at 855-9 05 min paces at easier heart rate......do u think i have potential to get 3 40- 3 45 full marathon time? all i have to do is beat 4 hours but i want go under 3 50.......Or i can shoot for a sub 1 44 half but id have shoot for stars with speed.......not sure what i should do with a month half to go.....work on speed 7 30 paces for half? or shoot for long runs 8 30 paces. I feel like i have chance hit a PR at both but i feel like id have go all out at half........IF i do the full do u think i need do negative split? like start out 9 min paces work down throughtout marathon......i feel like i started out to fast at full in 2022 and thats why i hit wall boinked around mile 17........what should i do? half or full u think? should i up my long run training to 22 miles at easier pace and see how it feels? cant make up my mind i feel like if i stay conservative full i can beat 4 or 3 50 for full. I feel like i have more room for error to hold 830-850 pace 26 miles vs trying hold 740-750 pace for half right now.....all i have to do for full PR is get around 3 50 and i can run 20-22 miles for easy 9 min paces long run......which should i go for u think?

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Hi there - so you're still trying to decide whether you're going to run the half or the full? Is that the question essentially?

@SuperTreybo

5 ай бұрын

hi Jane yea, i really feel like i have alot potential hit easier PR in full even though its longer race bec my PR is 4 hours 1 min in 2019 a 9 13 average pace......and now i can constently hit 9 min and 850 paces for easy 18-20 mile long runs at easy heart rates. I feel like my big problem was running my long runs to hard and to fast in past, as long as i stay in zone 3 during marathon i feel like i can hit 850-8 40 pace.......but to hit a PR in the half i would have hold a 750 to 740 pace at a HIGH heart rate and shoot for the stars......most ive run for 740 pace is 6-7 miles tempo. i did 8 03 pace for 13 in training but it was high heart rate

@SuperTreybo

5 ай бұрын

But yea what would be your advice Jane it’s been long time since I have pr and been frustrating , feel like I just need strengthen my zone 3 speed which has got way better than a year ago. Which race would u advise ? To have best shot at pr

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

If your true easy pace is around 9-min. miles than you shouldn't have an issue running a sub 3:50 marathon. True easy pace should be at least 1-min. slower than your marathon pace. To me it sounds like you've been training for the marathon since you're already doing 20-milers, so I'd say do the marathon. But yes, pacing it right will be very important. Ultimately, I know very little about you and your goals so I think you should do what feels right. Happy to do a deep dive or discuss racing strategy if you want to go to my coaching page and schedule a 1-hour call. Thanks!@@SuperTreybo

@SuperTreybo

5 ай бұрын

Thank you Jane! do u think i need negative split? like start first half at around 9 min paces or even slower then faster 845 8 50 paces after first half? myrtle beach weather is so unpredictable that worries me to, i pray for colder weather...like last week it was in 30s and 40s........and this week its 70-75 degrees with 90 percent humidity.....so u never know myrtle beach. I havent run PR in 5 years and i feel like i have better shot holding 845-9 pace for easier 26 miles vs 7 50 pace for half marathon. I hope i can pull it off its been frustrating

Surprised your long run friends didn’t point out the fueling protocol for you

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Well, I was very intimated back then and only talked to the couple of people I knew in the group. And this was also not a group that was great about being really inclusive of all paces - there were times I would run alone if my friend wasn't there in that first year. (The second time around I always ran with my dad.) But also, fueling is pretty tough to wrap your head around if you're not seeking out exactly how to do it correctly...even now I work with athletes who are overwhelmed and don't know where to begin. Lots of parts to figure out.

I did another common mistake: after running my first marathon (I trained for it for a year) and thought to myself: now I run a marathon even with minimal training…. Right? Nope, ran 2 very bad ones until I got the memo. (Almost 5h walk and DnFd the other one).

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

The marathon is so tough - lots of parts to figure out! Have you run more since then or are you on your way to training for another?

@Morfeusm

5 ай бұрын

@@runningwithjane I haven’t. I tried ultramarathon but got permanently injured so now I can’t run trails without a prior surgery. These days I’m training and running 10Ks and half marathons hoping for marathon comeback in couple of years when I confidently build up my mileage.

@runningwithjane

5 ай бұрын

Love to hear that you're still racing and enjoying running - that's what it's all about!@@Morfeusm

you're so smart. I have so much to learn. 🥲