The OG was actually Mark Crossfield

@scoober1989

13 күн бұрын

facts

What goes around, comes around. Rick is great and I've enjoyed his content for many years, but when he started he just copied Mark Crossfield (who is the real OG of KZread golf ). Grant is now just doing the same....

@OvieKovy

Ай бұрын

Yeah that history is interesting Crossfield doesn't get the recognition he probably deserves

@jacobdubois710

Ай бұрын

Bring back the Muppets!

@niallstark7726

Ай бұрын

​@jacobdubois710 Yeah - he used to be enjoyable back in the day when he also had Buzzman, Pickard and Gorilla on the channel. Now just takes himself a bit too serious for my liking.

@jettjones9889

Ай бұрын

He bullied and mocked those guys and they stopped playing with him, just ask Dan.

@MrErnestCC

Ай бұрын

Crossfield was my first KZread watch. I don't think he developed the content well enough and got out done my others. Some of those old matches were alot of fun.

Jesus christ. Anything you can blab about to get to 10 min to collect $

@rodox168

Ай бұрын

Lol. Joke video.

@travismcgrath5430

Ай бұрын

Legit 10 minutes about absolutely nothing...did Rick even say anything about it?

@frankdelung1300

Ай бұрын

Yep, youtube gossip channel with no substance.

@805weatherman

29 күн бұрын

yeah, also unfollowed.. turned into unorganized blabber

@thecorrean2411

25 күн бұрын

Yeah I don’t even watch the videos I pause them and look at the comments, to figure it out.

It’s hard to take advice from Rick when he refuses to take any of the same advice.

Bryson has the best golf channel these days

@DXI86

18 күн бұрын

Plus Peter Finch.

@sandersson2813

15 күн бұрын

​@@DXI86Finch is insufferable. If he was made of chocolate he'd eat himself.

While yes you could argue Grant is “copying” Rick it’s honestly just a natural progression based off his views and I’m all for it. Definitely interested in seeing how he fares against Sergio.

I think Rick stumbled in to KZread promoting his lessons…. Grant is a student of KZread.

Plenty of room on KZread for high quality golf content. It isn’t like television. With TV, they’re basically competing for time slots, for a single view. When I open KZread, I LOVE having tons of good content to watch. I actually watch wayyyy more KZread golf, than I do golf tournaments on TV. Keep it up boys. Rick will be just fine. Haha

I think when you look at it as a whole, if you take the content of the videos away (challenges, vs. pro's, etc.), you're essentially watching for the content creators themselves. It's the same concept as watching streamers for gaming, where you're more invested in the streamer themself (MOST of the time) than the games they play. But ironically, just a few hours ago Nate Rick released a playing golf left handed video... which of course Brad Dalke did just a few weeks ago. I don't ever see golf creators copying each other necessarily, but more or less seeing how their audiences respond to that particular content and just running with it.

@Swannie81y

Ай бұрын

I completely agree. Every golf creators plays 3, 6, 9, or 18 holes per vid - sometimes with a little twist (guest or interesting handicap of some sort). Sometimes shortgame vids, etc. But it really is the Personality that brings it home sometimes. And on your other point, @GolfSidekick did a break 100 Left Handed 3 years ago and still does vids with him competing against himself playing leftie. And even he probably isn't original I assume. The real thing is you do actually enjoy some CREATORS more than others - even if they are repeating the same twists. Interesting!

Grant is at least 7 shots better than Rick.

@OvieKovy

Ай бұрын

Except Rick beat him straight up 😮

@billyhill1778

Ай бұрын

Rick is a 10 posing as scratch

@thebeardedgardener5527

Ай бұрын

Point is Grant can't play under pressure. It's shown already he is a weekend golfer and that's it. If you can't use the things you teach under pressure don't teach and quit pretending to be good at golf. I'd rather relate to you being a weekend golfer than watch you pretend on youtube.

@aboynamedsandoz

Ай бұрын

@@OvieKovyWasn’t Grant playing with a rental set because the airline lost his clubs?

@Jhack

Ай бұрын

I mean he fails to break 75 but 90% of the time breaks 80. I'm a 8 handicap and I break 80 maybe once every 15 rounds or so. So rick is 100% better than me. He ain't scratch but he also never says he is ​@@billyhill1778

You should be careful how you word that title, it makes it seem like Rick accused him of something. That was my initial thought when I read it honestly. Good video though!

You bring up a great point about the relevancy of the title and the substance for long term views. Just last week I was struggling with my driver and remembered a great video I had watched a few years before to help fix the issue from Peter Finch so I went back and found it to re-watch.

Grant is becoming the american version of Rick, the content is very similar so yes he is kind of emulating him.

Never understood the appeal of Grant. He's a nice enough guy, and a decent golfer. But he has the personality of an A.I.. If you've seen 1 of Grant's videos, you've seen them all...

@user-kp3zs2to8k

Ай бұрын

I agree about his personality, I can never watch him do a round by himself. Only when he has guest on is when I’ll tune in. His swing is pure though, but it can’t keep me engaged enough just by that alone.

@billykerridge8719

Ай бұрын

I like grant. But it does make me laugh when fan boys of his bang on Micah for his personality...at least he has one!

@ConnorCarpenterGolfs

Ай бұрын

Nate is more A.I

@billyhill1778

Ай бұрын

He is significantly more likeable and talented than Rick

@ryanschultz4119

Ай бұрын

@billyhill1778 Well, that's subjective! Regardless, I've always been more partial to Peter Finch. Who actually can perform under tournament pressure. Unlike Grant, Rick, Micah, Luke Kwon, etc...

Spyglass hill only had 440k also and its a favored course. It's the algorithm.

Nate is a Mazda B Series fan, learn something new everyday. Nothing compares to a Hilux though 😄

Rick has tons of subs because he’s been around literally forever. The problem with Rick is he’s just not a good enough golfer and doesn’t seem to be improving. Lack of skill is fine if you’re full of personality like Bob, Bubbie, Steve, etc… It’s hard to watch someone take their game so seriously when they don’t have a serious game. Forget taking tips from Rick when he’s consistently shooting mid 80’s. No hate on Rick, it’s just everybody else has stepped their KZread game way up and Rick has stayed stagnant.

@mattbrad5000

20 күн бұрын

It's the beginning of the end. Rick did accelerate head of Pete, and Pete went rather stale. When Rick hit 1m Pete was struggling for 250k. Now that Pete is one of the best youtube golfers on ability, plus superb editing and content, he's accelerating too. There's only too many times you can watch Rick mess up a break 75 before it becomes boring, I don't watch them anymore for that reason!

There is a finite amount of ideas for golf videos. Once you have seen all of them, boredom sets in. In my opinion, once the youtube golfers get sponsors, it goes downhill from there. What would really be nice is to go back to a bunch of buddies playing golf and having fun. We can watch pro golfers on tv.

Whatever one’s opinions, imitation is the biggest form of flattery.

I think all the beef is stupid as hell. Good Good to me started a great thing on KZread with all the original guys, collaborations and then out of nowhere Garret and that other guy left, people hated on one side or the other and fkn opinions when they all should just randomly play each other do collaborations different games,courses, challenges etc. it’s becoming a soap opera and honestly who gives a shit. Play golf, make content, keep people interested. Bryson talking shit to Brooks is the only beef I cared about and enjoyed. This is stupid. Everybody was cool and now they’re not. Fk em

@JesseBeahm

Ай бұрын

As you're here on a channel that is made for the "beef"

Rick is no perfect golfer - THERE IS NO perfect golfer. He's human, that's what I like - and he doesn't spill sarcastic words against others (some think they are funny, but it s only annoying). Rick's videos are a pleasure to watch ...

This title sounds like Rick is accusing Grant of something…

@junzsi

Ай бұрын

That’s what it sounds like. Drama?

Mark Crossfield is the KZread golf pioneer. It would have happened anyway but crossfield was the original big channel. Funnily enough Crossfield had young Bryson dechambeau on his channel in Austria or Switzerland a couple of times.

i think the bigger question is that The Liv promotions team is probably dictating a mini social media campaign on how they want their man Sergio to look like....rather than copy Rick, Grant is just using what was supplied by Liv marketing..the black background questionaire style thing...pretty sure tha was dreamt up by Liv marketing (part of package created to assist youtube and other influencers)... Sergio and Rahm aern't just playing youtubers for the fun or out of the kindness of thier hearts...its all business boys...well duh haha ..we all know that....exactly the same as the PGA players...there promoting on you tube to win hearts and minds!!!

Grant has "copied" Rick on a number of series. No sirprise really, the guy has been a walking blueprint for a while. But hes not copying per se, its all just similar stuff. The best take in this video is acknowledgement of short hit versus long stay popularuty growth in video views. Thats a massive difference between the content creators approach and their go to markwt strategy, but also a representation of their audiences.

@billyhill1778

Ай бұрын

Grant is way more talented and likeable than miserable Rick who fucking sucks honestly

This couldve been titled "heres what my caffeinated brain thinks about golf guys i watch on youtube." (Insert proverbial Good Good merch.) Dont make it your identity kids.

Yes I agree with you, Rick has been around on KZread for 15-20 years so he has grown his followers over the years, Grant is still young to KZread on his own. Loads of people subscribed to Rick in the early years as there was nothing about KZread golf, he’s done well to carry the career along the way with him. I see Grant as a younger guy who is attracting the younger generation in golf, which is great to see.

It’s ironic the talk about copying. Rick’s video today is about golfing left handed. golf sidekick has been doing that bit for a couple months, and check out the title of golfsidekick’s video today 😂

@michaellawrence399

Ай бұрын

Waddaplaya

@RangerErnsy

Ай бұрын

I have more confidentiality in Golf Sidekick. Like a baus.

@thomastrain7311

Ай бұрын

Waddaplaya

It's all a bit petty. It's not like you can only watch one or the other. I'm just glad there's more decent content around these days.

What's good you beautiful man! That 15 year old kid is insane! Grant is looking to differentiate himself and he's doing a great job. Good Catches Nate.

He didnt copy rick, rick starts at -10😂

@nateedwardsongolf

Ай бұрын

Haha exactly!😂

@billykerridge8719

Ай бұрын

He did copy...but let's be honest they all do cos ricks the best at YT. Everyone seems to do 'break' videos now and Rick coined that phrase. However I see it more as a compliment to Rick. Every creator sees him as the tiger of the space

@ConnorCarpenterGolfs

Ай бұрын

@@billykerridge8719he’s the OG but he’s not a good golfer, he can screw off

@billykerridge8719

Ай бұрын

@@ConnorCarpenterGolfs what's not being as good at golf got to do with it?

@kbbtt

Ай бұрын

@@ConnorCarpenterGolfs He's no pro for sure but that is asinine. Rick is an exceptional golfer and usually has great advice for new players

People like to create drama. Grant is doing his thing Rick is doing his thing. I love watching them both and watching them play whomever. Lol.

@nateedwardsongolf

Ай бұрын

Agreed - personalities will always be a different factor too. Love em both 💯

If Rick doesn’t improve soon, he will lose the audience. Grateful for the guy, but he really only blew up because of Covid. Time to move aside or grind it out and get better.

@billyhill1778

Ай бұрын

He is nowhere close to the talent of most of golf youtube now

@kristoffer5191

Ай бұрын

No one is watching Rick for his skills. His personality and content is why we watch him. He's loveable and Grant's not

@ajakeasmanfan7880

Ай бұрын

Covid had nothing to do with him blowing up he was already b4 plus he puts his bad shots in and doesn't cut like some people

For me, it matters not what their celebrity status is, or isn't. I view golf content to better my game and to applaud those who support the game & the processes on every level. In other words, those who want to be a star thru the means of golf content are perhaps too dysfunctional to be on KZread, i.e., in my play list....

If EVERYONE doesn’t just delete all their YT golf follows and just follow Luke Kwon & TacoGolf you’re absolutely blowing it.

Rick was doing this when all these KZreadrs were babies 👍🏻

I do love the 18 hole stroke play (one video) format for KZread golfers that Grant and other YT like GG Golf are currently doing. The standard six or nine hole format seems too short.

Let’s be honest-all of KZread content creators are just copying each other! It just depends on which personalities you like watching play golf!

I think the disconnect and the misunderstanding between these guys is similar to everyone comparing Tiger and Scottie and it's not a fair comparison. Rick has put in the time and has been grinding at the KZread thing for a while. Grant has blown up because of when he started his KZread channel. When Rick first started, KZread itself did not have that many followers, much less golfers. Grant has benefited from the fact that golf is way more popular now than it was 7-8 years ago. So it's not a fair comparison in my opinion. Which brings me to my point about Tiger and Scottie. Tiger turned golf upside down because of his talent. He sent shock waves through the golf world . I will never take away any credit from him for how he changed the sport. But tiger was in a league of his own. It was like watching a rabbit in a turtle race. That is not the same for Scottie. Because of Tiger and technology, the amount of talent is on Tour/ LIV is nothing close to what Tiger was competing with back in the day. Scottie is a rabbit in a turtle race but there are also other rabbits in the race. That's the analogy I can apply to the golf world now. Professional or KZread.

grant has a video coming with the worlds best 9 year-old

Is this a golf KZreadr who’s content is talking about the content of other golf KZreadrs?

Lol. So play him 1 on 1 Rick. Straight stroke play. Winner can post the first 9 holes video to their cannel. Loser gets the second one. We'd love to watch Grant smoke you.

@condorman26

Ай бұрын

They have. And grant lost

Rick shiels struggles to break 80, doesn't make him legit as a someone i take advice from. Grant's game is a complete different level.

The reason why grants videos with Rick don’t do well is because people want to see good golf, and if good golf isn’t available from said individual, that individual needs to be entertaining which Rick just isn’t. Bob does sports isnt great golf but they are entertaining that why they’re videos with grant and performing better.h

In general Grant's swing is much better and if he played Rick 100 times Grant would beat Rick 65 times. Rick has played and beaten Grant on You Tube. Grant wanted to let Rick play a tee up, Rick had none of that and it motivated Rick to "smoke" Grant. Look it up...

There are similarities across most KZread golf content, I really like it when like in on of the last GM videos Grant give kudos to BDS for the food challenge idea.

Good Good

Yea but Rick Shiels can’t break 80 and he’s doing instruction videos, OMG

Rick the goat 😂😂😂

I dont watch any of those guys. Golf sidekick for me - wadda life

Bro is more invested into made up drama than his own shit tf going on here

Garrett made Grant Horvat

Why is this a competition? Who cares? These guys are just playing golf and we watch it. It gets boring after awhile.

Rick has been making himself look bad for months now. Extremely mid compared to the rest of youtube golf. He just can't accept that it's passed him by

I've un-subbed from Rick last week. He started just getting too petty. Grant's content is great! No one owns their series, everyone can do the same kind of content. People will watch the people they like!

Who cares

Who cares! They play golf on KZread!

I'd much rather watch Grant's content than Rick's. Rick's has gotten boring

Rick Shields is not very confidential with his shots.

@kaboomblueskies

26 күн бұрын

It is very hard to be confidential with something you are doing in the open. Confidentiality is usually related to secrecy. Why would you want to keep a golf shot secret.

Your life is sitting around analyzing what other yt golfers are doing, that is very sad and I hope you find a better purpose in life

Grant has managed to sever ties with a lot of people he has played with, and its all about the money

Rather watch cross field James Robinson or Peter Finch over Rick in that order

Grant is overrated, and is definitely desperate for views! That’s just my opinion which doesn’t matter to anyone but me