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@zevelgamer.

Ай бұрын

Yes it is, Good job champ!

Ya boys, we're watching drama unfold on the language side of KZread real time. What side are you on? I'm pro linguistics.

@time_will_tell69

Ай бұрын

Vsauce

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

Pro-linguistics

@user-ot7bv1tu7z

Ай бұрын

Same ❤

@pialba

Ай бұрын

Pro-linguistics here

@kakahass8845

Ай бұрын

Despite him making some good points I'm pro-linguistics.

Me who'd just watched Language Simp's video on why Linguistics sucks: 👁👄👁

@matthewheald8964

Ай бұрын

Same 😂

@C9nr9d999

Ай бұрын

same lmao

I was very offended when "Earl" said that linguistics leads to Communism. Excuse me, my linguistics-inspired conlang leads to Globalist oligarchic hegemony. It's a very important distinction.

On a serious note, learning the IPA has been extremely beneficial to my language study. For example, my French pronunciation has moved from atrocious to okay really quickly after reading some IPA transcriptions. It also allowed me to learn that the Spanish y/ll is different from ours without having to figure that out myself later on (in addition to things like the g sometimes being /ɣ/ instead)

@analisamelculo85

Ай бұрын

Same for me. English has so many weird sounds that Spanish doesn't, and learning just the necessary about English phonetics made my pronounciation the best at school. Not speaking about accents here, but pronounciation, make yourself clear and not confusing words, there is where phonetics are really useful

When I was teaching at uni, I used to tell the undergrads that being a linguist is like being the automobile engineer. You study all the parts and (mostly) understand how everything works. In theory, you're a good driver but you don't need to drive the car to be a good engineer (it helps though). However, speaking the language is actually driving the car and getting a feel for it.

@snareprod.2319

Ай бұрын

also, you don't need to be a mechanic to be a good driver. So it really works vice versa

I am blessed to witness a language war on the internet. This is better than a Crips vs Bloods feud

Beefing with a sarcasm god is craaazy

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

Don't read the description...

@avenov

Ай бұрын

​@@PolyglotMouse genuinely how many people are really gonna scroll all the way down in the description to see a single indirect line about "it's all fun and games"? it's just there so you can counter comments like mine with it lol

@d-man4485

Ай бұрын

@@avenovGenuinely though the whole video feels about as sarcastic as a Language Simp video, not sure how you didn’t notice. The only real difference is that Language Simp takes things to their extremes to make it obvious, while this video doesn’t quite do that

@MemetastorTheGreat

Ай бұрын

@@avenovhe literally commented on his video that he would make a response jokingly

@MyNameIsNeutron

Ай бұрын

No it's not.

i think a russian grammar table is more likely to trigger some languagesimp ptsd than convince him of the joy of linguistics lmao

I've seriously hopped on language KZread since I want to learn Polish while I study here 3 days ago. This is what I understand about this argument: Language can be used as it's function like a car, it gets the job done, you can know the brand (language) but you don't need to know the specs. Simp sees it for it's functions and it's cool tricks, you are interested in the specs of the engine and the history behind how and why it does and where it comes from to allow it to do such. Each person is allowed to love what they love at the end of the day, but for the average learner I would say, minimally dabble in linguistics unless it interests you cuz you can easily lose motivation and the big picture when it comes to learning a language.

@snareprod.2319

Ай бұрын

well said bro

Linguistics is like learning to cook and simp just wants to know how to make mac and cheese.

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

Pretty much!

Me with an ongoing Linguistics master's degree who just watched Language Simp's video : okay guys, finally our time to shine, time for some drama from the Language side of KZread. Watching two language youtubers going pro and against linguistics was really not in my 2024 bingo card but YES FOREVER PRO LINGUISTICS ( no matter what pain I endure in the process )

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

This was a funny comment. Thanks for bring pro-limguistics!

I don't think he hates linguistics, he actually hate alien terminologies deployed in linguistics.

@riccardopucci3165

Ай бұрын

Every scientific field has its own technical language. The "ew big words" attitude is so childish.

@chakhovbilly

Ай бұрын

@@riccardopucci3165plus these are not that hard, even schoolchildren have an idea of what the syntax and morphology are

@celine9322

Ай бұрын

But English is full of latin and greek!

@FrozenMermaid666

Ай бұрын

I can say words in Norse and Gothic and Icelandic and Dutch and Norwegian etc and other pretty languages (the pretty languages being works of art) perfectly, even though I cannot read the ipa, the ipa being very confusing - the ipa doesn’t have the unique Dutch sound that is right between a normal A sound and a normal E sound that most speakers say when saying the ij and ei in words such as fijn and trein and pijn which in most Dutch accents is pronounced with that unique sound and a normal i sound at the end, but instead, the ipa has two or more symbols for the ch sound such as the c and the tsh-type of symbol that is used in English and even a ç-type of symbol that’s used in Italian when spelling the ipa spelling of Italian words that have c followed by e or i in spelling, which is literally the ch sound like the ch in chips and chocolates and like the ch in Spanish etc, and it has multiple a / i / u sounds that sound the same and multiple v sounds that are just the funny version of a normal v sound, so I don’t really care about learning the ipa, and, when there’s a more complicated sound such as the LL in Welsh, even knowing the ipa doesn’t help if one doesn’t know exactly what sound one should make, like, I hear some H-based or S-based or SH-based sound in there, but am not sure which one is the right one to get the right Welsh LL which isn’t an L sound technically, though it sounds like it could be a mix of H and L sometimes!

@FrozenMermaid666

Ай бұрын

English is a 100% Germanic language created by a dude by modifying Norse and Óld English words etc and creating new words in its Middle version, and Modern English was created and perfected and oversimplified by the ágèncy, and the words modified from Latin words or Greek words etc became English words once the new Germanic spelling rules and the Germanic pronunciation rules were applied to them, and Proto Germanic was made by a dude by directly modifying Latin words and by creating lots of new words, but it wasn’t Latin either, because it’s not the vocab that makes a language what it is, and most words in Germanic languages and Latin languages are cognates, anyway, it’s just that most of them are used with different meanings, plus all languages come in very indirect ways from the first language Proto European which is the first language ever created that a dude of germanic origin created from scratch about ten thousand years ago together with the first writing system, which inspired all other languages and writing systems that exist today, either directly or indirectly, but mostly indirectly, as newer languages were made by modifying the spelling rules of previous languages and by creating new words, and modifying the spelling rules of a language automatically creates a new language, though when the language creator decided to modify the words a lot and change the meanings of the words and create mostly new words, a new language family would be created, depending on how different the newer language was, so all languages are kinda related in very indirect and distant ways, and most words in most languages are kinda cognates, even though most of them were modified completely, and that is especially true for European languages and many of the Turkic-languages etc, though I’ve seen plenty of Germanic words with Germanic letter combinations even in Arabic languages, so some European-based / Germanic-based languages were definitely used as an inspiration by the dude the made Arabic and even by the dude that made Ancient Egyptian etc - but yea, it’s the letter combinations and the verb endings and the noun endings etc and the sound patterns and the pronunciation rules and the overall aspect of the language and vibe that the language gives off that make a language what it is, not where most words were taken from!

i hate how he shamed (even if mockinlgy) people learning linguistics to pronounce things better, that's literally a noble thing to do, if anything MORE people should do it, the amount of simple mistakes I hear constantly that could be avoided by reading even a phonemic transcription just once is insane

@analisamelculo85

Ай бұрын

It's the only thing that helped me pronounced the word "Literature" Because no matter how many times I heard audios of people saying it, I couldn't understand any sound of how natives say that word. Then I just read a transcription once and it solved all my problems with that word

@brillitheworldbuilder

Ай бұрын

Exactly! His words basically imply things like "Who learns linguistics is a nerd and doesn't belong", "Who studies linguistics is uncool" and even "Languages should not be analysed and studied scientifically, because no one cares". Also contradictive things like "To know about language structure is unnecessary". Well, Mr. LanguageSimp, how can you become fluent in a language like a "true chad", who we nerdy losers will never be according to your words, without knowing about how things are pronounced, which word forms to use in which context and in which order to put words so that sentences make sense? Correct, you can't! But it's way easier to arrogantly shame and insult every linguist and linguistics enjoyer on the planet than having your statements not contradicting themselves. And why exactly can't languages both be science AND art? I as a conlanger know that this is in fact the case, but since he also occasionally shames conlanging in his videos, although not in that intensity, he'd probably ignore that question. I didn't like this guy before, but now he got me wild! Now I truly can't stand him

@selladore4911

6 күн бұрын

you'd probably want a phonetic transcription for that then

I like both, but I think these two should be separated, at least for begginers

Lol I saw you from the comments, This gonna be good.

@realemolga6306

Ай бұрын

same

@matthewheald8964

Ай бұрын

Same

While it might not help me “speak” a language faster. I love studying the linguistics of my target language because it answers a lot of questions that I have that most people can’t answer. When I see people struggling to learn my native language. I want to know why and see if there is a way to help them. I want everyone to succeed in their language learning goals, so doing everything I can to help seems to require me to study linguistics. I think linguistics has also helped me notice sounds that exist in my native language that I never would have even considered to be a part of it. Overall, even the smallest amount of knowledge in linguistics has helped me better understand the world around me in general. So I don’t fall into the trap that a lot of people do of assuming that someone is unintelligent just because they’re struggling to speak my language. I instead can wonder what I can do to help them if they ask me for help. Which wouldn’t be possible if I just completely ignored linguistics and only memorized scripts.

Sometimes linguistics really does help teach how to learn the language. If you are learning Irish you will come across consonant mutations. Consonants may turn into fricatives or become voiced depending on case or words that come before it seemingly for no reason, it doesn't make any sense. "His house" triggers lenition "a theach", "Her house" keeps it the same as "a teach" and "Their house" triggers eclipses "a dteach". But when you dig deeper you realise what's going on, in Proto-Celtic "his" was "*esyo", so when a consonant is between vowels it'll naturally become lenited like how in Bri'ish English "water" became "wa'er". "Her" was "*esyās" triggering nothing and because "their" was "*ēsom" ending in a nasal consonant it made the next consonant become voiced/nasal due to how poeple would naturally slur word together like that

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

Wow this is really interesting! I'm going to have to look into it

@fonkedonke

Ай бұрын

correcting a statement, "*esyās" causes h-prothesis

I don't have time to watch this video right now, but I need to say that the thumbnail is perfect.

I agree, linguistics not that bad as Language says :( I mean yeah it can be bitchy sometimes when you must study its details, but all in all its pretty fun to explore imo. May the Kaufmann be with you!

I love LanguageSimp videos, they're hilarious. Like you don't know if he's a total douchebag doofus or if he's just completely ironic and as a (soon) linguist his video about linguistics made me laugh. That said if he's serious or meta-ironic like what he said in this video is not his opinion per se but somewhat what he thinks he's dead or meta-ironically wrong.

6:40 That's my university! The Poznań university. As an Esperanto speaker, I've visited the course twice as a guest. I couldn't enrol because I don't have a diploma. Sadly, it seems that this year is the last year of Interlinguistics at the Adam Mickiewicz University. Well, nowadays, the studies are more about what have been done in the field of artificial international languages than actually trying to create one. Also, it's funny that the Vatican Radio has a version in such a communist language xD

Learning how to learn a language is improtant most linguistic stuff won't help you speak a language, but its funny how you don't even argue with langauge simp

Bloody Balls! Biggest linguistic drama since linguistic relativity and altaic dropped!

For me its also the grammar parts that are the most interesting. I think thats what makes languages so interesting and unique. Sure.. vocab is unavoidable and its necessary but GRAMMAR is the fun part. As you said. Its like a giant puzzle and it is grammar what sets the rules! Also I am fortunate enough to never having had any issues with understanding grammatical concepts which imo makes learning multiple languages much easier. I get that it might be boring for a lot of people though.

This is why he's a hyperpolyglot gigachad loved by both women and men, and you're not 😎

First linguistic discovery "Here's why I don't like conlangs" then language symp "why I hate linguistics" can't people live us alone XD. If you don't like something you shouldn't discourage other people from doing it

@ahmedharajli189

Ай бұрын

Nah langsimp actually has some valid reasons for going against conlangs

@sicilanguageist

Ай бұрын

@@ahmedharajli189 I'm talking about another guy... Langfocus too? Sorry but what are the reasons?

@ahmedharajli189

Ай бұрын

@@sicilanguageist misspoke I meant langsimp but basically the problem with conlangs that are meant to serve as global auxiliary languages is that they take away from the joy of learning a language to connect with peoples or cultures, as well as the fact that many conlangs like Esperanto have the intention of being global auxiliary languages but are in fact very Eurocentric and are only easy for people from that background. Something I can get behind is smth like inter Slavic which serves as a way of uniting Slavic people without having the false premise of it being easy or useful for the world to learn

@sicilanguageist

Ай бұрын

@@ahmedharajli189 Well, they're not the only conlang type there is. That being said, yes, Esperanto is very Eurocentric and pretentious by Zamenhof's declared intentions. But why is Esperanto always mentioned when the conlanging community is so varied and motivation and end product are so so diverse? Esperanto is one (auxiliary) conlang among many many others. I always find that people who feel the need to say why they don't like conlangs know nothing about conlangs. I'm not talking about you, but it's just a general patterns I've seen emerging from this conlanging and linguistics-hating videos that for some reason popped up the last two years

@onofre4390

Ай бұрын

If you don't like something you shouldn't discourage other people from doing it, except when that thing (in one's opinion) is harmful to others, then you should be able to warn other people if you want, because in your eyes you are protecting them. I'm not defending him, just pointing out that it's completely fine and logical to warn people about something if you think that thing is bad for them.

I NEEDED THIS VIDEO THANK YOU

This channel is so underrated, I've seen some of your videos and they deserve way more support than what they get. Anyway, I'll contribute myself and subscribe :)

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

I was expecting this exactly video to be posted, thank you linguistics-lover pal

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

Np :)

Man, academics is mostly just labeling and categorizing things. Yes learning a language is applying the things that linguists study, but I could also study football and say football players are just applying the thing I’m studying. Don’t get me wrong, I have a masters degree (in CS), so I don’t hate academia. But the grammar heavy way, with lots of complex academic terms, that you normally learn a language in school with really killed my joy. I only recovered after learning about Comprehensible Input. After you get a feeling for a language you’re ready for grammar and all the other stuff.

Respect to a man who holds his word. I don't hate linguistic in general, in fact, it's so fun to learn about language history, connections within and beyond language branches, history behind those strange grammar rules (write "Manchester", read "Liverpool") and so much more! But in actual language learning overfloading with theory might be a really bad thing. i had big problems with my own native language at school until that time when they finally stopped to ask about rules and let me just write the way I felt. My grades instantly raised from somewhere in between of "very bad"-"extremly bad" (3-2 points) to "actually good" (solid 4, even 4+, we have oficially 5 points system, but 1 - worsest - wasn't in use when I was at school). The same thing was with learning English, they're overload with theory (at least, twenty years ago it was so) you don't understand yet and don't even have enough exsamples. This is gross, kids aren't scientists, have some mercy!

I was just going to sub for drama but after seeing your other videos you will get a sub that is interested in drama

You actually did it! 😆

Hey, your channel is amazing. I hope you get more subscribers. I have seen most ppl thinking India has only 1 language but that is wrong.Can you make a video on the different languages of India? Thank you.

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

I'll put it on my list!

3:18 it's not only that knowing a specific rule helps you conjugate a verb, it's rather getting used to the pattern. E.g. children know nothing about grammar conjugations, yet they conjugate correctly due to the natural feeling of how to use the language through patterns. Languages are about patterns, not grammar tho. Anyway, I appreciate if people enjoy learning about stuff so keep going.

this is great, we need more linguistics youtubers

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

I agree! I love adding to this small field of videos

Really Language Simp was mfostly disliking the IPA and not linguistics, which I understand his point. It's useful, but it's not a priority and some people get lost and think it is, and so never achieve their goals.

IPA is easy. I learnt it in second grade while studying English by making transcriptions.

He's going by "Earl" now. Apparently, he changed his legal name.

please watch the rest of the video

the linguistic football has opened.

as a philosophy student specialised in epistemology, the idea of hating linguistics is absurd. I use semantic analysis, etymology, grammar analysis very often. (example of semantic analysis in philosophy is explaining how the semantics compliment concepts, for example ''Choice'' as a concept IMPLIES discrimination and delimitation, and thus you can't have ''infinite choice(s)'' by using linguistics, one can iterate on this and make the argument against the paradox of ''freedom to choose infinitely'' that some thinkers have advanced) Some philosophers are philosophers of language, and specialise in this stuff (I remember reading about how the language of fiction is distinct from the language of lying in Searle's work for example), usually they are also linguists since it's obviously complementary. While I'm far from great at this stuff, i know some things, like the temporal function of every verb tense in french for example, since that's my native language and I did tutoring for it.

I think he just trolled everyone. Moreover, the beginner language learner doesn't have to be proficient in linguistics but they absorb it automatically as they learn the language.

Great video mr cheese

Semantics isn't about context, that's pragmatics. Good video nonetheless.

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

Yup, I went solely off memory there lol

I saw that video but I just laughed because he just made an "exteremely controversial" video but I never imagined there would be a video which opposes the controversial. It's like Newton's Third Law but om KZread 😅😅😅

We need a lingual boxing match between you two (steve kaufmann will be the ref)

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

Didn't expect to see you here! Love your vids, however for it to happen you have to be the commentator....

@sjsjsjsj357

Ай бұрын

Steven wouldn't be a biased ref. He also doesn't like linguistics

his video wasnt even about that, it was about linguistics in language learning. i.e. people who want to learn to automatically speak a language and not how to reason about a language. anyway there were some very low hanging fruits in the language simp video like having to learn all IPA symbols in order to learn a language. well most languages dont use all IPA symbols

I wanted to write a comment but I forgot it :( anyways, this comment is just for the algorithm

6:45 As soon after he said "You know what that means" I instantly said "FISH!"

Here is a pro-linguistics who has recently discovered its magic. I've been learning English for a while and would like to switch to another language. What can I do to get started, from a linguistic point of view?

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

First, tell me what language you'd like to learn, then I'll get back to you :)

@Ziggylingue-ue5ft

Ай бұрын

Well, that's the problem xD. I like learning languages for fun, although English was my unique experience. I think I'm more interested in learning about the languages themselves before choosing one to focus on. Does that make sense?

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

Yes that completely makes sense. In my opinion, I think you should find the things that you like and dislike about English. For example, how is it's grammar, it's phonology, pragmatics, syntax, etc. Once you find that out, find languages that align with your interests. If you are fascinated by the vocabulary of English, take a look at the Germanic languages (and French/Latin), if you are interested in it's grammar, take a look at the Romance languages. In my opinion, I think it'd be good to research the Indo-European-Language family as a whole and start looking through each family to see which one interests you. If you don't like any of these, take a look at African, East-Asian, Middle-Eastern, and Indigenous languages in the Americas and Oceania. Good luck!

@Ziggylingue-ue5ft

Ай бұрын

@@PolyglotMouse You've just given me a solid starting point. Thank you!

blessed and based video.

What languages do you speak?

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

English, Spanish, Portuguese, and a bit of Norwegian

Based linguistics lover of the romantic kind.

let's goo

Perfect

i have a feeling a lot of people in the comments dont understand language simp makes satire videos

i find linguistics really interesting but i don't think it helps that much when we're talking about learning languages, as it's a subconscious process, like how we learn our native language completely implicitly for years and only in middle school we learn the names of the verb tenses and that kind of stuff. like it can help but i agree with language simp in the sense that if you study linguistics just to learn a language it'd be better just to spend that time actually learning the language.

that was fast!

you're a nerd... *subscribed*

Esperanto -> Esperanto symbols -> Red star -> Communism

cough cough SUBSCRIBED

As an Anti-Esperantist, I’m not surprised in the slightest that Esperanto and Communism are joined at the hip; they both have very similar goals. Also, who’s in this KZread war on Team Linguistics? Comment “ɰ” below if you’re with me 👇🏼

@selladore4911

6 күн бұрын

i prefer the fricative but im with you ɣ

Wait this isn't a serious attempt at refutation right? We all understand Language Simp uses hyperbole as humor.... right????

I'll just like your video for speedrun from esperanto to communism, haha.

oh no esperanto no 💀

What’s up with polyglots and mousees

very well made video and very fast btw I still kinda anti linguistics cuzzzz idk i just don't like it :(

🤓☝️

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

⚒️

I still hate linguistics for pretty much the same reasons as Language Simp (that you should have talked about more instead of just cutting off what he has to say)

@Mullkaw

Ай бұрын

i love linguistics, but i dont think mr simp was particularly wrong about anything. he's just not interested in the science behind language and there's no problem with that.

@amadeosendiulo2137

Ай бұрын

And maybe you also agree that we are communists for speaking Esperanto as he says?

@PolyglotMouse

Ай бұрын

I mean, there wasn't much else to say. The rest of his video was a skit

我讨厌蚊子叮咬

Common dude, I've seen videos of this guy for a while and obviously that nothing that he says is for real

u skipped like 90% of the point

ད་རེས་པའི་ཉིན་མེད་བསྐྱར་བ།

you r an akademic.u cant gtasp higher concepts....

Real

@IDKWhat0

Ай бұрын

And thank you

I feel like you watch language simp for the insightful commentary instead of the funny jokes he makes because you don't realize he makes jokes.

Ы

@pguser

Ай бұрын

УЙ!

2:36 your point that conjugation tables are puzzles you enjoy solving is weakened by the fact that you couldn't be bothered to find out about a key part of the puzzle, the verbal suffix. it's pronounced [stʲi] [stʲ] by the way

@PolyglotMouse

6 күн бұрын

Because I wasn't trying to solve it in this specific instance. I don't have any experience with Russian grammar, but I chose this specific example because I know that Language Simp has PTSD with Russian grammar in the past, so I wanted to shine it in a different light. Thanks for the help with the pronunciation, if I ever make a video on Russian I'll make sure to remember this

@selladore4911

6 күн бұрын

@@PolyglotMouse I get it, you wanted to retraumatize him /lh

as a big linguistics nerd and language simp fan, I think this video has given lesser arguments than Language Simp's and that it is officially dʒoʊvɚ

@selladore4911

6 күн бұрын

imagine being me and being introduced to a new slang term through an IPA transcription

I can't tell if you're being serious or not