discord.gg/5y5EFKEp feel free to say hello :)

@dextergzslasher4402

7 ай бұрын

There's also the fact that humans could team up with dino players and absolutely troll players, could you imagine fighting a rex only to be shot down by a human with it.

@nobodynobody8646

7 ай бұрын

Humans should pick up simple ranged weapons at facilities, or some of them should be just crafted: for example: spear, slingshot, knife. They should mostly feed on vegetables, fruits and modern life npcs (boars, hen, deers, rabbits). That will make their gameplay more of stranded on the island like.

devs already confirmed u can turn off humans in community servers. So if you dont like humans play on servers where humans are disabeled, PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

Although I kind of agree, community servers have many issues of their own

@hectorluz7477

7 ай бұрын

​@@goldfishmentalityman I sure hate admins and the multiple rules

if humans come it’s going to be an australian man simulator

No matter what anyone says, humans are an inevitability for the isle, the best we can do is say how we think they can be improved

@smansam

7 ай бұрын

An unfortunate inevitability

@SilverSabertooth

7 ай бұрын

or have all the unofficial server owners _not_ add humans to their servers!

@Leon-bc8hm

7 ай бұрын

I know how to make it worse. Humans being able to set traps.

@Bossbruin

17 күн бұрын

Two words Jurassic, Park! Need I say more?

your points are very good, and yes humans are supposed to be very hard, and guns will be rare and ammo will be even rarer, but on the buildings and settlements part, that is something the devs have actually thought about (believe it or not), there will be massive underground settlements and bases that smaller creatures like raptors can get into but not bigger creatures like apexes. But for the people that still dont like them, there will of course be servers with them disabled

@vashbain3136

7 ай бұрын

LMAO can't wait to creep inside an underground base with 10 or 15 troodons or more and just spread chaos

@Rumplestiltskin-iy1hf

7 ай бұрын

@@vashbain3136 Tartarus and GUTS are a bit larger than just one base. :)

@AntiThotPatrol

7 ай бұрын

The whole idea of an underground base just seems skeptical to me, even if it’s in the devs plans, and I doubt that we won’t even get to see it go into development. Plus, the whole “ammo and firearms being rare” still doesn’t make it balanced. Look at almost every large multiplayer survival game, people have found a way to milk a single exploit just so that they can have infinite ammo or firearms. Not to mention that firearms breaks the game. For example, a stego player could lose all of their hours of playtime just because someone has hidden in a bush with an assault rifle.

@vashbain3136

7 ай бұрын

@@AntiThotPatrolI have to admit Im a bit scared about the firearms tbh I think there will be a bunch of dudes just going around shooting everything they see

@F.H.W

7 ай бұрын

​@@AntiThotPatrolMaybe the hypothetical stego should spend less time lingering out in the open, choose a more camouflaged skin and stop screaming it's head off

They said that finding weapons and ammunition would be hard, the same way that growing a deino or a Rex in legacy would be hard. I’m sure when humans drop there’s gonna be heavy firepower everywhere and soon nothing larger than a herra can grow or play reliably. I WANT humans in the game but I realize that it’s not that simple, the interaction will be so easily one sided that neither side will feel fulfilled during/after the fight. Little timmy finds a shotgun 10 minutes into playing the first time and blows the head off a carno that’s spent hours growing vs Galli runs up and kicks a hole in a humans chest without even stopping and the human is dead.

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

Fr. I think people don't take into account the fun of playing humans. Everything about the world's design goes against them entirely or makes them op entirely. I feel like it's just a massive balancing nightmare overall and the devs don't exactly have the best track record with that sort of thing

@Varan2

7 ай бұрын

Or they could do a capture method

@Bleghspread

7 ай бұрын

Or.. Little Timmy finds a shotgun after 6 hours of playing human but he is not even able to use it because right 10 seconds after, a nasty carno trainwrecked him from behind. See? Anyone can make those stories and with multiple different outcomes too.

@F.H.W

7 ай бұрын

Maybe dinosaur players should learn to adapt to their new environment. And the only human player getting kicked by a Galli is one standing out in the open like a wolly, with their headphones off and AFK

@carrott36

7 ай бұрын

@@BleghspreadDid you read that Galli bit?

I would still love having humans (ven if they aren't very strong or die easily), because i think it would add a new comunity of players and just image at night in a vocal with your friends playing as humans in swamps and hearing them yelling in fear or just simply compare the size of thing to you... Yeah it would add a spooky kind of play.

I made the suggestion in the official Isle discord before I got perma muted for saying it. My idea was that they could make the Isle stay a dinosaur survival game and they could master the Dino AI in it, then they could make another game with the humans in it with the AI made in the Isle. Maybe this new game could be called Isle Extraction? It could still all be in the same universe, and I think it’ll be a better business strategy. I think an extraction shooter dinosaur game would be awesome in a similar style to Hunt Showdown. However its that there’s also dinosaur survival that’s thrown in, doesn’t make it sound good. It wants to be two things at the same time. I swear this game is going to be a soy sauce birthday cake. And that’s not a good thing.

@carrott36

7 ай бұрын

You got perma-muted for stating concerns and constructive criticism? The isle devs are more messed up than I thought.

@Verdinhox2

Ай бұрын

@@carrott36 likely not the only reason he got muted

If Humans aren’t overpowered or able to kill everything they see, then I wouldn’t mind humans at all. A game where you can survive as a dinosaur against other people playing as dinosaurs will then have a whole new aspect that will change everything. As a human, You will have to complete missions (or do something idk) while surviving on an island full of dinosaurs. Easy right? Nope, all of the dinosaurs are players. On a horror aspect The Isle would have unlimited potential, but everything else might be a doozy

No matter the gun, its going to be hilarious how easily humans will get wiped out by dinosaurs. If they spawn in specific places, you can bet Herreras will be griefing them hard.

I bought this game because since the beginning I was told it would be essentially DayZ x Jurassic Park and while the playable animals are cool it isn’t the main draw for me. I want to experience the horror of playing a human and have a playstyle that offers more than just role playing an animal.

I like the ide of humans and dinosaurs co existing, but feels more fit for a full on tribal vibe then modern things. Something like gaining trust with other players and using them as mounts in exchange of being kept save from smaller predators or something like that, not just shooting up the forest and dumping your total of two bullets into your friend who spooked you.

@F.H.W

7 ай бұрын

You are sort of right, tribals are a playable faction that will be coming to the game but as this is a horror game "taming" and riding a dinosaur won't work in such a friendly way. The concept was shown quite a few years ago now but cannibals/tribals will craft ropes with meat hooks on the end which they will then slam into the skin and mouths of the Dinos they want to ride, and force them to go in the direction they pull on. If the mount resists (which it can do at any time) it will suffer damage.

@dead_clownx4697

2 ай бұрын

​@@F.H.W not going to lie that actually sounds cool

Honestly, I think that Dondi’s ideas work way better in show/movie form, but everything falls apart once you put it in game form.

You know how some Free Roam servers on Primal Carnage are *a l w a y s* 20+ dinosaurs and one human? It's gonna be like that.

those are some strong points, tho the devs could give the humans a car or a helicopter, there is actualy a helipad in one of the structures, so a helicopter could possibly be added.

What I can perdoct right away is when humans drop, there will be a wealth of servers popping up with them banned or modded out. Some people just dont want to play Primal Carnage.

I feel like humans should be a game mode like just you and 3 friends play as humans surviving from ai dinosaurs and completing objectives

In my opinion the only problem with the humans is that they are pretty easy to abuse if not done right but on the other hand, outside of maybe being able to snipe dinosaurs from far away they are gonna be incredibly vulnerable since they are in first person and sometimes can't even see a fully grown T.Rex 2 meters away from them because it's behind a bush while T.Rex can see them perfectly fine. I personally really like the idea of playing as a human since the human perspective helps me better understand just how big most of the dinosaurs are, like yea you see your size when you press tab as a dinosaur but you don't really truly understand it until you see them as a human, like I consider Omni as a relatively small dinosaur like many others yet when you see one as a human it's god damn huge. 1:52 This is a good point, but I also remember them saying that those fences are gonna have electricity, so maybe they can only be destroyed if they are not powered. 2:41 Also a good point but I also think (and hope) that ammunition will be rare enough that people can't just gun down large apexes with no consequences let alone sauropods. Like yea you have a sniper rifle but it only has 2 bullets that only respawn every 6 hours or so and even then you need to find them before anyone else does.

I think we should just have tribals and gen 1s and make like humans a ancient species idk

Apparently, not only will the ammo be rare, but magazines will be too. Without a mag, you'll have to reload a single round into your gun every time you shoot it. Ammo is rare to deter players from wasting it nilly willy. They will want to use it when their life is in danger. If anything, humans will have a huge disadvantage. In a recent stream, Dondi showed off how well an enormous rex can hide and be virtually invisible to a human despite it being a few feet away from it, even during daytime and clear weather. The human is stuck in first person and can't look over large foliage. The dinos can. People are worried about humans gunning down their dinos, I'm worried about dinos making human life a living hell lol.

I heard a while back that they intended on giving humans the ability to tame dinosaurs. Hopefully with the addition of more ai dinos this mean tamable ai and not tamable players. I'm not sure if they still intend to do this or not, but just curious what you think about it.

@dylancrosby2451

7 ай бұрын

I doubt taming would work for player dinos, since players can just do whatever they want and don't have to follow orders, unless they figure out a way to punish the player for not helping the human, which doesn't sound like a very good mechanic. You'll likely see dinos that just help humans and act friendly, so you don't even need a taming system for player dinos.

@Gnarwolf

5 ай бұрын

i believe Dondi said in a live stream that there would be no cooperation between human and dinos in any kind of mechanics.

Me and the boys playing omni on human release day bullying any ape with clothes we see in to extinction 😂

PS:you’re still my favorite dinosaur KZreadr and that will never change

They should use arks take for humans...but thats if they make humans good

I've been waiting for humans to be added to the isle for over 6 years....... I don't know if im excited anymore.

Humans are among the biggest reason I think server populations should be increased. Cause simply put, for every human on the server, there’s one less dino. Dino’s need other Dino’s to improve their experience and humans need other humans as well as Dino’s for theirs. If we can get 200 limit servers, where 50 of the slots are human, than I think we’re good

imo, i'd say humans will spown in the *mostly* safe megadome. and be all in one spot to be all in one hand for what? to take their jeep out n go looking for destroyed structures, recover it, loot and this is the important part. u will spown in the megadome and the closest human base is kind of far. and there is a big chance what ur gonna find is attachables for some random weapon. maybe a little gun that needs ammo and cant only kill a troodon. and have to look for somethings to unlock some others. maybe find a dinosaur body or meat or whatever to unlock a weapon from the megadome, and the helicopter would pretty much spown once in a day or even more rare, and would need fuel to run, means landing, and its flies means anything could see it while it couldnt see anything... while getting fuel it gets attacked by a rex or smth... imo THEY ARE NOT AN EASY BALANCE. AND CANT BE FULLY BALANCED but still u can make them suffer, like someone failing to grow an apex everytime they hit sub-adult stage but after few times... they are now invincible. thats humans... hard to loot and survive but when they find a heli, a shotgun, a sniper... oh boy. (put in mind there is a lot of possiblities of them dying. the spino going into megadome in that old conecept art. the rex breaking into their found base while they loot it a pack of utahs chasing their car and tracking them down... maybe even a carno would be ramming their car and yes they can destroy it with a shotgun but its not always in hand. maybe a pack of allos or a pair of apexes camping their way out of the dome and they gotta use another way out to avoid them and they would struggle, u know a gun wouldnt be faster than 6 allosaurus's that weights almost 3 tons running 2x ur speed towords your little face.)

Isle devs: I'ma pretend I didn't see that

I think it could add a very interesting, cool dynamic if done well. I'd like to think lore wise, they're the ones manipulating the dinos in the first place, meaning maybe the possibility for some tools we don't know of yet to help them out physically in small numbers. Could even be tools or ammo that are not all lethal, the dinosaurs in the isle seem likely to be more of an experiment to the humans rather then something they would want to kill if they didn't have too. With this and all the pictures involving caging, maybe it would benefit a human player more to capture a dino player rather then killing one, leading to some interesting gameplay for both parties. But who knows, can't say I have an idea on what the true end goal for them would be or how they'll try to manage a players actions.

The answer should be obvious but apparently it isn’t for the isle dev team.

@user-cg2ul5yr2h

7 ай бұрын

They are just a bunch of idiots. With patch 7.0 they ruined a ready to play game. They destroy years of work just with that shit of stam regen, not mentioning a humongous map with 100 shitty players. The game is going deep in a pit of shit thanks to those disfunctional

@TheJuicer97

7 ай бұрын

Don't blame the whole Dev team, you want to talk to the owner Dundee he makes all the decisions on what gets added to the game and basically tells everybody else to fuck off and they will ban you from the discord if you sit there and talk shit on the game. 😂

@StyginDawn

7 ай бұрын

​@@TheJuicer97screw dondi

@Nrex117

7 ай бұрын

To be fair, humans have been planned since the beginning. If you don’t like it there are plenty of alternatives that lack humans like BoB and PoT to scratch that itch.

man I don’t care if they do or don’t add humans, at this rate I just want them to fix their game

Humans as some sort of hardcore play style seems the best way to put it in imo

@jasongraves150

3 ай бұрын

Traps and stuff with limited actual damage

Playing as a human sounds like a fun experience testing myself against dinosaurs where I’m outmatched but I got my broomstick? Yea definitely terrifying but not impossible. Especially if you can supply enough resources but that’s a challenge in its self. Just cuz you can shoot a dinosaur doesn’t mean you should as every carnivore in ear shot will be on you. If shotguns only piss off a grizzly bear imagine what your guns will only do to Ceratosaurus. Definitely an experience I’d like to see even if I don’t do it every time.

@dylancrosby2451

7 ай бұрын

Completely agree with you, I dont understand why people think guns will be op. Youre not going to just go around destroying everything with your 6 bullets without alerting the entire map of your location. Good luck shooting a t rex with a pistol as well 😂😂😂😂

@Texasmule

7 ай бұрын

AK-47 hunts bears without issue. Maybe we get ak and become slav

@darkturtle9996

7 ай бұрын

with birdshot maybe, you stick a slug in that shotgun and that bear is not gonna have a fun time.

@bighatastrea

6 ай бұрын

It would be pretty cool if some dinosaurs that can hear better actually hear the gunshots from literal miles away, which would encourage raptors stalking the humans and vaguely finding out where they are. tbh I can't imagine humans outsmarting dinosaurs, they're way too fast and the forest is way too thick. In the dev stream it looked pretty terrifying how, from a human pov, the giant T-rex was not visible at all behind just a little bit of shrubbery, while the rex player could see everything

I think the addition of bows or crossbows or maybe even throwable spears may be a good idea because guns are just too fast. Now maybe a single shot weapon could be a possibility but i feel like guns are just too long range.

i just want humans to really get a feel for the size of the dinos. also making friends with a dino as a human would be fun asf

i dont mind the concept of humans i just know that ANYONE who picks humans is gonna be ythe worst, imagine you can play as a T REX, and you choose to be john from texas

the best way to implement ranged weapons would be sleeping darts in my oppinion and it would work so the dino will be forced to sleep for a while tho i would make that the biger the dino the more darts you would need to hit

larger server space would really help the game, and i believe their goal is to keep humans perspective as a horror game, keeping in the settlements, rebuilding, and doing "missions", being in wilderness is the horror aspect of it, for the guns, griefing will not be as big of an issue as people think, dondi said that people are overestimating the humans, they will barely find guns, and even when they do, they need ammo, which was said to be equally as hard, another part of that is the fact that a rex going into a settlement will more than likely get blazed by bullets given thats where the humans will collect, and most humans will only start with pistols so them vs thing like carno is a fair fight, prob take like 6+ pistol shots to take a carno down, but only one bite to rip a human in half.

@BBP-OMO

7 ай бұрын

I'm sorry but if you can spawn in and reliably kill anything smaller than a Carno even if just once at range within 10 minutes of play then thats just unfair to every pachy, utha and cerato.

@dark_c_a_t8894

7 ай бұрын

@@BBP-OMOit will be hard to haim i hop, and mybe thy will give bulet spread to maket hard to aim

@BlinkingTwin

7 ай бұрын

If the ammo is truly that hard to find then the chance of them finding it, much less being in a position to reliably stockpile it seems fairly low, settlements or not. As we've seen with sanctuaries, what the devs think is going to happen and what actually happens tends to be two wildly different things

@carrott36

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, humans getting snipers will be rare. It’ll still happen, and nobody wants their rex they put hours into to be one-hit from 500m, no matter how rare the event.

i think they should add a ranked system in the isle tbh

I need more videos from this channel bad!

Me still waiting on updates about the isle's singleplayer campain:

Little Timmy the sniper might have something to say about this

I just don't want the humans to make it like primal carnage

Little Timmy the sniper killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Having been known as the human enthusiast throughout the discord since like, 2018, it's getting to the point where development and critical thinking has led me to believe that humans (the gun wielding kind) are going to be more of a bane than a boon. I am still definitely in the favor of adding the gen 1s (cannibals) because truthfully they're just super cool, as well as can actually be balanced easier.

They could limit settlements to the islands. Only raiding the mainland from the humans from the islands. Then returning after the raids. Ships would obviously be needed.

@Texasmule

7 ай бұрын

And have dino players assist in the raidings!

Humans are going to suck hot ass no matter what the devs do, ngl. When the game was about people, literally no one cared about it and tbh Dondi should have learned from that

dondi really trying to make the isle primal carnage 2.0 but with growth progression...

We can all agree though, those video titles are so catchy; how can you ignore them right? To stay on the subject though, i think the devs are holding many and majorly important human pieces of information back from the players untill they finally have gotten a sweet spot with them. But that's what i think.

I personally cant wait for humans, then my dream of a jurassic park style online survivor horror game will come true. I also think there are some way of making humans interesting to play, they could have a journal/beastiary where they have to take pictures of player controlled dinosaurs to record data, and by doing so they can unlock cosmetics, crafting recipes, weapons, vehicles, access to certain rooms in human compounds. and in order to record the data, they would have to go to specific human compounds in order to keep humans consistantly moving around the map. I also like the idea of having to tranquilize herbivores to maybe gather blood samples and such. If they give humans the tools to be able to survive but not dominate , then i think i good balance can be met, as well as the server capacity im my opinion will be increased over time and so by that time, humans will be implented to some degree.

People not realising there are servers with and without them. Don't panic.

I personally want to see that, and before you comment, Why do you want to see humans in the game? JURASSIC PARK!!! Need I say More?!

Do you have any Other solutions on how the humans could possibly work and not get constantly hunted by the dinosaurs?

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

Honestly not really. if they do vehicles correctly they might stand a chance though

Not the best idea but maybe they could do humans as a sort of swarm hive mind thing? Were one player coltrols multiple humans in a small area, could be good for flock dinos? Idk lol

They could just add like anti Rex weapons so they have a chance

They should be at an extreme disadvantage, the idea of a merc coming in with a Barrett 50 cal and popping dino players is awful. I like the idea of the indigenous, but balancing all this is going to be a nightmare.

The only purpose I see for humans is to add a horror aspect to the game. Essentially Phasmophibia in the setting of JP3. You are stranded on an isalnd, explore the jungle and are suddenlys killed by some dinosaur. It's gonna be a unique experience since the dinos are players aswell and therefore less predictable than AI (kind of the same formular as in games like DbD or Evolve) But I don't really see a gameplay loop for the human players there. Balancing stuff like this is extremely hard and I don't see it working with such na large rooster and big map.

It's preaching to the choir. You can only be so vocal about a problem before "they" finally get it. Glad 6 years finally paid off.

I like how the reasons Humans shouldn't be added line up with real life and history (Humans are weak compared to the Dinos (which was the same with animals like Mammoths and Ground sloths) but if they got Guns they would be very Overpowered (like when we made spears to hunt the Megafauna) and wiped out the Megafauna).

Eh i want to see advanced cavemen jumping a rex in the prehistoric hood

We really have no clue what the purpose of humans will be and what their gameplay entails. We all know that progression for dinos is the growth system, and the eventual mutation and elder systems. But what would the progression system for humans be, exactly? Will it be DayZ style where you run around and go into human structures to find loot? Will guns and ammo just randomly spawn in the world for them to pick up? I can easily imagine humans spawning and immediately going to the best loot spots on the map. Or do humans need to complete certain objectives, such as dino research, to survive and progress to a point where they can be permitted to buy guns and ammo? I dunno. There's just so many directions that they could take human gameplay.

o think that humans where and are going to be just a option in the game if its too much dinosaurs, boom great horror game and if there is a lot of humans boom cool shooting/hunting game this could make the game not just grow a dino and kill other dinos. It could then be a like grow and invade of group up and defend. So in the end i think they could be ether HORRIBLE or really fun (sorry for yapping)

I thought devs listen to these little timmies? then why are they not even aknowledging us haters.

I would be more worried that they make humans over powered by giving them weapons that can take down a dino too quickly. I think the idea of becoming a dino hunter will attract a lot of people as long as they don't die so easily. If the devs could get the balance just right humans could work but it would have to be done properly and correctly. The question is can the devs do this? That's the big question. I think the devs would be smarter to work on getting the dino world up and running properly, correctly and complete before even trying to introduce humans. That's just my own opinion on it.

Will humans be able to nest? If yes maybe ill play the isle again

Here’s the deal mr goldfish man… I love the idea of human gameplay. I don’t think humans will just go around mowing down dinosaurs. Like Dondi said. You have to find the gun, the magazine, and the ammo in order to actually shoot. He also mentioned that being in first person leads to the very big problem of dinosaurs seeing you before you see them. Exploring the map in first person will be very interesting and also a completely new way of experiencing the game. And im assuming stuff such as hunger won’t be the biggest issue so it allows for a very different, slower gameplay experience that’s more centered around the fact that “you are on this island, and you are probably screwed” I don’t even think human gameplay will have as many griefers as your average survival game. Since building stuff clearly isn’t needed. And all you are really loosing when you die is the stuff you collected. Caving a troodons head in with a sledgehammer would be metal as hell. And imagine the sense of relief you would feel if you somehow managed to escape a dinosaur attack. Humans will certainly be less played than dinosaurs. But that would add to the sense of loneliness you might end up feeling on the island. In return being an almost singleplayer experience for the isle. Overall I welcome humans and I actually believe that they will be a very unique experience

@dylancrosby2451

7 ай бұрын

I disagree slightly, if implemented properly, humans could potentially be more popular than dinos, especially when you consider the fact that it will likely bring in people from other games who don't care for playing as a dino.

Blub

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

Profound

Humans were planned from the beginning, even before development began. Lots of people bought the game thinking it will just be a dino survival game. Kinda the devs fault on that one though. They should have specified the humans on the storepage. They shouldn't be confused at all about people complaining about humans. To anyone not keeping up with development, humans will seem like something nobody asked for.

I will say I disagree with your video Goldfish but with a little bit of a * some points I see where you're coming from, mostly in your opening segment Where it mostly some coming from anecdotal experience about the enjoyability of humans themselves Especially about "to be rewarding/fun = needs to be a lot of them", which I find this statement more lacklustre in its detail; Especially seeing as it's the more "horror-experience" the devs want with Gen2s, having a small cluster of humans (compared to 100 Gen2s) on a singular server isn't truly bad- in contrast, rather more fitting for the environment of "You're alone". The Devs don't want a mercenary simulator, which hasn't been the case since Pre-2018 ideas and reworking of Isle's lore I also find the traversal statement rather odd as well. Albeit, you didn't further elaborate much on that point- just about structure (base) protection Where you state that Gen2s "become more vulnerable". I understand this might just be a misconception about Gen2s, as, as a whole, we've barely been told how Gen2s will work in the broader community aspect ||eg. Devblogs|| But wouldn't this be more the desired effect? As you argue that Gen2s, with guns, would be the most OP aspect of the game- being very easy to troll with and ruin a whole server. From this, finding ways to make Gen2s more generally vulnerable *would* (more or less) be needed to at least maintain and/or simmer down the average player from wanting to go on a jetpack joyride rampage on every dinosaur. But I still certainly agree. People will still kill for the fun of it. That's why, and I'm ashamed of admitting such, that the option of having Gen2s turn off or on exists. I suppose it's a sort of toxic trust or, at least, a mutual agreement between the devs and the player. The player willingly acknowledges the existence of Humans (Gen2s) - Through a mixture of better communication via the devs about their existence, alongside trailers and better allusions to such in-game. The devs try to actually design them within the boundaries of severely punishing Gen2s (mechanically, not referring to debuffs of the sort) to both better fit the helpless sensation of being in a Horror Dinosaur survival game and let down those who *WANT* to hunt. *TheHunter: Primal* exists, play that. *I will also note here that I do prefer the idea of harder traversal. Referring back to 'TheHunter: Primal', I think larger maps truly makes those type of games (Dino with Humans subgenre) elevate the complete minuteness of the size physical difference between Humans and Dinosaurs. In which I'm glad they're sticking to first person for Gen2s. And a little side-note about the map itself with traversal. Neither to promote any agenda about Gen2s, but we do know vehicles are confirmed ||punch talking about them recently||. But also the aspect of underground transport tunnels ||note, they're not truly tunnels. But still underground traversal areas made by Humans, in lore||, eg. "The GUTS" ||which is an old reference to the old planned cave system under The Spire|| and Tartarus. Which could definitely add a very interesting horror aspect for humans. But! Depends on how it's actually done. in the end, I found your video enjoyable and still noteworthy for the devs. As Dondi and the team have talked about- this is practically the first time something of this manner as been done within this genre of Dinosaur/Animal Survival games. I am more than up for the devs to try around with everything. If it all goes crap, oh well! They tried at least. Which is better than most average Animal Survival Games have done

Well, Humans are in the lore of The Isle, The government ressurected the dinosaurs on these abandoned Islands, Also the cause of the Hypos. So the game isn't 100% About dinosaurs, It's basscily just playing the POV of Jurassic Park characters.

Humans will definitely work fine ppl are overestimating how strong they will be

humans are a cool idea and i think there are many far more straightforward ways to balance them so they arent too weak or strong, but i still worry about player count in servers and the giant ass map they made. 100 people on gateway is just... not enough. i barely have encounters lmfao. imagine when they actually finish and unlock the rest of the map. plus if they keep migrations the same itll make herbivore gameplay more boring than it already is. restricting exploration

Humans are fine in the Isle of

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@goldfishmentality

5 ай бұрын

Cars would be ridiculously hard to balance

@mrorm

5 ай бұрын

@@goldfishmentality and helicopters

i won't play them, if i wanted to i would go on Ark

I just don't understand why humans need to be added to the game. The game with just dinosaurs is great by itself! No need for some human to mess up the balance that is already bad.

@Trunk000

7 ай бұрын

its always been the plan to add humans

@hawkey21

7 ай бұрын

humans were planned before dinosaur survival was even planned btw

@dariobee5358

7 ай бұрын

humans and dinosaurs were an idea since the beginning, but they focused on dinosaurs first. human plan was there since the beginning. if u dont like humans play on human disabeled servers.

@MesazoicCreators

7 ай бұрын

@@hawkey21 and? lol

@MesazoicCreators

7 ай бұрын

@@Trunk000 i know that what i was saying ;-;

I think Thay will be a good thing for having fun with frends lost world stile if you know what I mean

i-i am hearing you... and understanding what you are sayin

Ive played ark on PvP, so getting recked by dinos in the beginning is nothing game killing for me, imo i would love spending my first few hours trying to club a stego just to get swatted or get launched by a raging carno or the opportunity to walk in the jungles and see a raptor looking at me to say "clever girl" before getting pounced. You must suffer in the beginning to rest in peace at the end. Im all for the imbalance. Would be cool if we get a few dirt bikes that arnt faster then most small and mid carnies so the rides through the jungle can activate adrenaline as the do when getting chased by ark giga on a raptor.

@Texasmule

7 ай бұрын

To add on to this. I've led successful tribes on ark on hardcore mode with nearly starving every other day so rare resource hunting is nothing new. And I'm conditioned to use weapons with extremely low ammunition counts.

@Texasmule

7 ай бұрын

If humans are implemented in the way Im thinking then the game will be a fair human vs dino experience. Maps and the ability to ping should also be a thing for humans since we can't move fast. Binoculars should also be a starting tool or atleast scent/foot print tracking so we can hunt on a base level with carnivores.

Ill play community servers with no humans thatll be all.

Vehicles are planned, which should help with travel.

i dont understand how people are afraid of humans being overpowered, much of the island is dense jungle where the camera angles of dinosaurs makes them far more dangerous, add the fact that most dinosaurs are quiet and fast human players would get destroyed if they ventured into a jungle full of fast intelligent camouflaged killing machines. in all likelihood humans will stick to their buildings and attacking dinosaurs will be repelled unless in a large group or the humans in a small one. humans arent going to be OP until they add helicopters with thermal imaging and heat seeking missiles.

@dextergzslasher4402

6 ай бұрын

Yeah now that we have humans with guns we got a clear conclusion. It didn't work. Humans were on a killing spree on community servers.

How would you fix the humans?

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

I honestly wouldn't add them. But I'd probably go with a more ancient style with bows and spears.

@dark_c_a_t8894

7 ай бұрын

@@goldfishmentality thar reminds me in legacy thy use to have that typ of human, dondi sad a long time ago humans would be abel to bild ther weapons (only bows and spiers) sorry for my broken inlish

@That_Mazzini_Fan

6 ай бұрын

@@goldfishmentalityExactly,they should follow the primitive path and have Humans not be too OP by giving them small stuff like Spears,Bows and Rocks.

yeah i am 100% NOT exited for humans. imagine being a massive, powerful but slow sauropod that took hours to grow and being basically indestructible to any other dinosaur but dying to a tiny human with a gun. dosnt sound like something i would enjoy. and i brought a dinosaur survival game to play as a dinosaur/ other prehistoric animal. not a human. if humans are added, atleast half of the servers should have humans disabled. like you said, a few trolls could ruin everything for a server.

Few things I disagree with here, If it seems like im skipping parts of his video thats because im only talking about the things I disagree with. If I didn’t talk abt it I agree. Number one: “The Isle is a dinosaur survival game” but it was never meant to be? (Strictly that) the original launch trailer for the game had guess what?? HUMANS!!, they have been planned for YEARS. And have always had structures in the maps, and teasers for them since the very beginning! to say that the humans were suddenly thrust onto the players violently and we all have to “deal with it” is nonsense. You all bought the same game I did FULLY AWARE of humans going to be in the game. In legacy the most popular places on the map are mostly human structures yet people complain about humans being added because they just wanna run around as a dinosaur? Hell when you launch the game it shows a raptor on top of a JEEP in a HUMAN structure…. Number Two: “Humans are super slow and very small” Not really? “Gen 2” humans are supposed to be genetically modified humans that are supposed to be extremely athletic, humans compared to the dinosaurs in Evrima shouldn’t be that slow…. Take your average athlete sprinting speed of around 23 - 24 mph or (37 - 38.6 kph.) Thats not slow compared to the vast majority of the roster. That should put them at around the same speed as a Cera. (Actually given those numbers they are slightly faster) However if these “Gen 2” are supposed to be like “peak humans” then there sprinting speed would almost be as fast as a Utah raptor. (Or an Omni raptor lmao) but still faster than a dryo. Now of course thats a sprint, not a running marathon pace. Which would be about 12.5 mph (~20 kph) now THIS is slower than the majority of the roster. But its also were humans excel at. Humans are fantastic endurance runners. Translating that to the isle would mean humans would have “nigh infinite” stamina. Number Three “If humans are left with melee weapons they wont stand a chance against pretty much anything” Yeah I have no Idea were you get this idea from. You forget all it took for us to be even able to have this “conversation” while we sit in rooms across the entire world communicating on something that would get us burned at the stake for even trying to explain it just 200 years ago is a few people with a spear. A SINGLE spear would make a Human vs Solo Utah a somewhat even match (excluding surprise attack) If were going for realism that is. Considering humans would likely have some high tech melee weapons however, like Electric shocking staffs/spears or simple batons that would be enough. But it would be risky. A melee weapon is better than your fists (which could only dispatch small juvies) But with something like a high tech lethal variant cattle prod? Yeah a utah would ride the lightning if the human gets the first hit in. And a group of people with that? They could be a MENACE to small tiers. Number Four “Humans will have a very hard time emassing enough players to properly protect themselves” I would agree but your assuming the Isle community wont GROW! With the full addition of humans the people playing them might just (and hear me out dinosaur wannabes) buy the game…. Just to play as a human! This would be interesting as it would cause a literal 2 games in one mentality for the players. But if the isle community doesn’t grow then yes this would be a problem as most people that play the game im telling you would become a dinosaur if they could they are that obsessed. As a final point which you summed up pretty well if you ask me at the end of your video most of you Dino fanboys are mad at humans cause they’re taking away resources from your precious dinosaurs.

@goldfishmentality

5 ай бұрын

Humans would not stand a chance against anything larger than a Utah simply for realistic hit box reasons. Seeing a Human run faster than a Cera would be ridiculous and shit all over "immersion" and no one is arguing that humans weren't always the plan. Its just a bad one and the isle had am awful track record with releasing things they talk about or doing it even remotely well. But I appreciate your comment and I hope humans are solid to play as if they eventually do come

@ultragalacticgamer7195

5 ай бұрын

@@goldfishmentality i mean is it really “shitting all over immersion” when it turns out humans are pretty darn fast. (Or maybe dinosaurs are just slow) Although it wouldn’t really be fun to play as a human if you could outrun a Cera but realistically speaking a human should be able to is what im arguing. Now as for how the game works with hitboxes and what not I agree with what you said here because of the hitboxes. I just can’t say I agree with a human outrunning a cera being unrealistic since well, it aint that “unrealistic” apparently since It is POSSIBLE! Also after Re reading my comment it came off MUCH MORE aggressive than I would have liked it too, I was really tired and kinda banged that out in 5 minutes so I do apologize for how aggressive it came across and all my little jabs.

@goldfishmentality

5 ай бұрын

@ultragalacticgamer7195 lol no worries man. I dont take that stuff personally as a lot of people are usually just angry at the game and not me xD. Thanks for commenting bro :)

The game will just turn into humans vs carnivores. There will be no herbivores just a Raptor vs human Deathmatch. There will be 0 fun in the game outside of this.

was the main idea of the game, so stop complaining.

@goldfishmentality

5 ай бұрын

Doesn't mean it isn't a bad idea 😭

You actually have good points on why humans would never work in a dinosaur survival game, although the devs did say they would planned to pick a turn on/ off button in community servers when playing,and the only way humans would work in game is if the devs would make a different gameplay like a single player "story mode " of the isle.

@emberdragons8244

7 ай бұрын

i think humans could be fun! we should give them a chance :)

I'm OK with humans. I'm going to play one occasionally for the horror aspect. I can't imagine getting a well placed shot on a dino hunting me since players are smart. And people grief as dinos already so greifing won't change... now instead of 5 Tentos body guarding or malicious raptors killing baby raptors for fun not food we will have the occasional human wasting rare ammo just to kill 1 or 2 players off.

Its just so stupid. This is and always has been marketed as a dinosaur game. People already have ark survival evolved and 5 million other games with humans. we just want one good game where you can actually be a dino and immerse without getting sniped or blown up or some bs. Its not that big of a deal but still makes no sense to me

Go to community servers* Turn off the humans* Problem solved*

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

however, community servers

@shaxo5364

7 ай бұрын

@@goldfishmentality what?

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

@@shaxo5364 community servers have a lot of problems of their own

@shaxo5364

7 ай бұрын

@@goldfishmentality okay? Idk how that's an issue for the humans so?

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

@shaxo5364 it's an issue for dinosaur players that don't want to play with humans

I WANT THE HUMANS SO YEAH, SHUSH 😁🙃😇😈

OK I just realize that you just send a chain reaction across the the isle Community and now they’re saying that humans shouldn’t be added into the isle which is a huge disappointment for me because I actually would’ve enjoyed humans in the game I’m not saying that it’s necessarily your fault but I do feel like you saying that is going to make the old creators take humans out of the game

@goldfishmentality

6 ай бұрын

Na I dont really have much influence. If anyone does it's Xzageur who basically says the exact same things as me but gets more views for it xD

@JurassicB

6 ай бұрын

@@goldfishmentality True

This is entirely opinionated, humans are exactly what plenty of the playerbase wants and it will work perfectly fine if implemented properly, the fact that they aren't even in the game yet, shows that they are properly considering how to make them work. If you want a dinosaur game without humans, go play pot or bob or some crappy knock off.

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

Yes that's why I... made the video. Because it's my opinion

@dylancrosby2451

7 ай бұрын

@@goldfishmentality "why humans won't work" is said like a factual statement, rather than "why i believe humans won't work", that's how English works, key words are used to separate beliefs from absolutes. I get the youtube clickbait and all, but it's said like it's a factual statement and not a belief. No need to get upset that I'm pointing out an opinion and separating it from fact, we have no idea what the devs will end up doing and it's entirely possible that humans will work in the isle.

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

i did say that there's a possibility they will work, and it's rather inferred that it's an opinion when the topic is subjective. But i see your point@@dylancrosby2451

@dylancrosby2451

7 ай бұрын

@@goldfishmentality probably missed that, but my comment was never intended to attack or devalue your opinion in any way, just to highlight my own opinion that I believe humans have plenty of potential to work, especially after watching some of the streams where the dev (i think his name was dondi or something) talks about what he's intending on doing. Have a wonderful day my friend.

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

@dylancrosby2451 you too man. Totally valid :)

i know they planned for humans from the start but they can change that, just cause they wanted it from the start doesn't mean they cant just stop and focus on stuff the community actually wants.

@F.H.W

7 ай бұрын

This is an early access game, not a build-a-bear workshop. The Devs advertised what Game they were going to be making, and people put money towards that.

@wildskelly

7 ай бұрын

Humans will be a thing deal with it

@tadpolman8069

7 ай бұрын

@@F.H.W what do u mean early access isnt build a bear? the whole point of an early access game is to be molded into what the players want

@F.H.W

7 ай бұрын

@@tadpolman8069 I think you're mindset is a little bit flawed

Counter point Funny human content, balance doesn’t matter anymore 😎 👍

@goldfishmentality

7 ай бұрын

Yes sir

I don’t care I just want to be hoomint

The fact that you trust the devs makes me question

Make humans ai😂

MY COMMENT WAS IN THERE 😃