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  • @AhmadLad
    @AhmadLadАй бұрын

    Someone should study the correlation between being ginger and majoring in Philosophy

  • @Somereasonstolive

    @Somereasonstolive

    Ай бұрын

    Lolll theory underground felt that

  • @abiylakew3328

    @abiylakew3328

    Ай бұрын

    The pain threshold is probably somehow a factor

  • @R2-DPOO

    @R2-DPOO

    29 күн бұрын

    When you don’t have a soul you ponder what a soul is.

  • @laurocoman

    @laurocoman

    27 күн бұрын

    @@R2-DPOO goddamn LOL

  • @R2-DPOO

    @R2-DPOO

    27 күн бұрын

    @@laurocoman jk

  • @juniorjames7076
    @juniorjames707622 күн бұрын

    I always thought of myself as a shy introvert, until I did a college semester abroad (Madagascar, Africa). Then...not sure if it was the excitement of new surroundings, different culture, the need to learn and practice new languages (French and Malagasy), but I morphed into a extroverted, outgoing, life of the party social butterfly!! I loved being in a completely new world where there was no expectations of me and it opened me up. But I was still shocked at how my personality just felt different overseas. When i returned to the US, I tried holding on to some of that "extroverted-ness" but I kinda went back to being introverted again. Environment does have an impact on us.

  • @fixpontt
    @fixpontt26 күн бұрын

    I always watch these philosophical videos twice in a row to understand them. On the first watch, I start to understand the framing of the idea, and during the second watch, I fill in the gaps in my understanding.

  • @my.names.robb.with.two.bs1
    @my.names.robb.with.two.bs1Ай бұрын

    I miss you on Wisecrack. It's not the same over there anymore.

  • @metaouroboros6324

    @metaouroboros6324

    Ай бұрын

    It's mainly the humor it has now. It's cringe to watch, but still has good points.

  • @hydrakn

    @hydrakn

    Ай бұрын

    Michael seems alright, good delivery at least. Interesting topics on both channels. I like the takeaways Jared provides in the wrap up more though

  • @LuisSierra42

    @LuisSierra42

    Ай бұрын

    This video felt more like Wisecrack than current Wisecrack

  • @onemanturret1641

    @onemanturret1641

    Ай бұрын

    “Feminism good, capitalism bad, am I right guys” Current WiseCracks

  • @Squeekyflamingo89

    @Squeekyflamingo89

    Ай бұрын

    The girls they got on there are just not it, Jared left because of the direction it was going I believe, and not just dogging on the girls, there are plenty of awesome female youtubers just not the ones at wisecrack

  • @chikitronrx0
    @chikitronrx0Ай бұрын

    Ironically the most rebellious and revolutionary thing that anyone can do is just to be yourself, "normal" instead of being against any social tendency, construction or rules, trying to be unique or eternally molding yourself to be against of any tendency.

  • @lkyuvsad

    @lkyuvsad

    29 күн бұрын

    That's good advice as long as it also accepts that "normal" is subjective. Some people's normal is weird for most. Deliberately trying to be weird sounds exhausting and annoying, but people being odd without too much artifice, in a way that brings them happiness, makes the world a better place, in my estimation.

  • @lkyuvsad

    @lkyuvsad

    29 күн бұрын

    I think that some people are just naturally oppositional, and we need some of those people around for society to flourish. "Dial it down a bit" might still be good advice, but it would be sad to lose that entirely.

  • @NotsoGreat36

    @NotsoGreat36

    26 күн бұрын

    Yeah, Shrek was about how Shrek and Fiona decided to be normal and fit into society’s standards. Shrek notoriously lives in a 2 bedroom hovel in Duloc.

  • @grandsome1

    @grandsome1

    24 күн бұрын

    Being authentic and being normal are not the same thing. Normal is litteraly conformity, if your authentic self is comfortable with these norms good on you, but recognizing other people's right to authenticity whether it falls into norms or not, is the true revolutionary/rebelious spirit. Prioritizing normality over authenticity is not revolutionary or rebellious at all.

  • @schtuff.8207

    @schtuff.8207

    23 күн бұрын

    Until that becomes the norm.

  • @vladimirbelov3572
    @vladimirbelov3572Ай бұрын

    Carefreewandering and Jared together??? That is the best combo ever!

  • @wonderplaceholder
    @wonderplaceholder29 күн бұрын

    I think people could also dislike these movies because not everyone is in the profile curating game and there is no wish to be part of it. I never had Facebook or pictures of myself posted online and I only engaged online from anonymous accounts. I am not sure how much autism might have played into this. Refusing to play the game may be seen in the eyes of a profile curator as actually taking a side in this game, so this social technology becomes harmful because it is poisoning the well in social interactions as it puts into question your intentions. Everything has a hint of the "non-cool group" once you refuse to engage in the curation yourself. It may be right that there is no "true self" deep inside, but the cure for this harmful force remains the cliche adage "Just be yourself."

  • @TragicTumble

    @TragicTumble

    7 күн бұрын

    well said man.

  • @wonderplaceholder

    @wonderplaceholder

    7 күн бұрын

    @@TragicTumble thanks

  • @-----------g-
    @-----------g-24 күн бұрын

    Bro who else thought Jared and the professor were the same guy at different stages of their lives 🤣 🤣 🤣

  • @sebastianvera287
    @sebastianvera287Ай бұрын

    "Morallity is the hero of identity". Loved it

  • @MichaelBestvina
    @MichaelBestvinaАй бұрын

    Dammit Jared, stop being so smart! 😇 one of your best vids yet

  • @thegardenoffragileegos1845
    @thegardenoffragileegos1845Ай бұрын

    Never realized how much you two actually look alike. Edit: Coming from a working class background and being closer to Hans' age, years ago I made the correlation that the switch to service jobs is one of the things that brought identitarian revivalism back. Even in the 80s it was an unwritten rule that what we're paid for defines who we are. That's why aspirational libertarian representations like Del Boy were so popular at the time. "Getting Rich" meant we no longer have to curtsy and perform....at least in theory.

  • 27 күн бұрын

    9:09 there was an episode of Doug with a similar message. Didn't know as a child I was getting such deep lessons.

  • @lazybrick8787
    @lazybrick878728 күн бұрын

    Man, am I glad you are on youtube, I get genuinely excited when a video of yours pops up in the recommendation feed, reminds me the old days of youtube.

  • @marthyangue319
    @marthyangue31927 күн бұрын

    I prefer the metaphor of the rose over the onion or the peach, where the identity is formed out of the combination of progressively revealed layers overlapping (and obscuring) each other.

  • @juniorjames7076

    @juniorjames7076

    22 күн бұрын

    I always thought of myself as a shy introvert, until I did a college semester abroad (Madagascar, Africa). Then...not sure if it was the excitement of new surroundings, different culture, the need to learn and practice new languages (French and Malagasy), but I morphed into a extroverted, outgoing, life of the party social butterfly!! I loved being in a completely new world where there was no expectations of me and it opened me up. But I was still shocked at how my personality just felt different overseas. When i returned to the US, I tried holding on to some of that "extroverted-ness" but I kinda went back to being introverted again. Environment does have an impact on us.

  • @SergioBocanegra
    @SergioBocanegra28 күн бұрын

    Jared remember when you said. any idea or frame of thinking, when taken to an extreme will create a monster.

  • @20th_century_specter
    @20th_century_specterАй бұрын

    The majority of films I watch nowadays are older films.

  • @Residentevilfan1989
    @Residentevilfan198926 күн бұрын

    Dang, South Park still has it. It feels like The Orvile episode where stocks determined if you get live.

  • @ethanmoon3925
    @ethanmoon392525 күн бұрын

    Yay, the world and the self is all Marketing now.... I hate marketing.

  • @Lynxan
    @Lynxan21 күн бұрын

    Never looked at it this way.... still falls into the same problem, movies that care about the message more then be a good movie. Yet another factor of the world I just can not get up the energy to care about.

  • @virtualalias
    @virtualaliasАй бұрын

    I'm at 1:30 and ready to hear the term "profilicity" Let's gooooooo

  • @mrpink8951
    @mrpink895125 күн бұрын

    Ya, I fully blame social media for this trend. Make something look attractive and then pander to the lowest denominator in hopes that you do not disappoint

  • @Gabykk
    @GabykkАй бұрын

    Blessed youtube crossover

  • @optimumfilms
    @optimumfilmsАй бұрын

    This feels like it's in dialog with or in critique of Wisecracks latest video.

  • @V4Now
    @V4Now27 күн бұрын

    2 videoes in, you've got a new sub. Congratulations. 👍🏿

  • @xansun
    @xansun13 күн бұрын

    This brought to mind the story of Diogenes, who very much was an authentic person in the context in which he lived...until it became clear that it was indeed his ROLE to be that person. The story of him encountering Alexander the Great embodies this.

  • @PeterZeeke
    @PeterZeekeАй бұрын

    "in the heat of battle he never misses"

  • @josephgraham3006
    @josephgraham300629 күн бұрын

    Thanks. The insights here helped calm an increasingly hysterical heart.

  • @WickerMahn
    @WickerMahnАй бұрын

    forever thankful I was reintroduced to you after you left wisecrack dude keep it up

  • @climagabriel9893
    @climagabriel989314 күн бұрын

    You might find "Fictional Futures and the Conspicuously Young" by DFW interesting too

  • @the120cxx
    @the120cxx24 күн бұрын

    Need more stuff like this online

  • @chadjones1266
    @chadjones126611 күн бұрын

    Sincerity and originality are due for a comeback

  • @DOUMA_theblacksuns
    @DOUMA_theblacksuns21 күн бұрын

    i feel like if i close my eyes im listening to a new episode of wisecrack where Jared never left.

  • @ajutantable
    @ajutantable29 күн бұрын

    I love the phrase "HR approved buzz words" 13:00

  • @raidenwave4219
    @raidenwave4219Ай бұрын

    loved this excellent analysis video. I'm curious at to why the word "suicide" is censored though.

  • @prestondavidewell

    @prestondavidewell

    Ай бұрын

    Most likely because KZread would demonetize the video otherwise

  • @MtsBrg-ob6gf
    @MtsBrg-ob6gfАй бұрын

    OMG! The multiverse mash up I always dreamt about!

  • @lkyuvsad
    @lkyuvsad29 күн бұрын

    My issue with Moeller is that "don't take your role in society seriously- it's all a game, the self is an illusion" too easily lets society off for forcing people in to roles against their will that they then have to work extra hard to live with. It too easily supports the status quo, whatever that is and however compatible it is with human flourishing. I agree with him that the authentic self is somewhat an illusion and personal identity is extremely contextual. I agree with him that finding peace with a role in society that is attainable to you can be one of many useful strategies for an individual to find some degree of meaning, contentment or happiness. I've found comfort in that myself as disability has backed me in to a corner in terms of the identities available to me. It's all fine at an individual level. But when we're thinking in terms of progressing society as whole, I think it's a dangerous idea to have at the front of mind. I don't think that we should deliberately seek to build societies that rely on individuals squeezing themselves in to roles that require great effort for them to accept. There isn't one authentic self for any of us, but still the comfortable range of self-expression does vary between individuals. Personal identity is genetic to at least some extent. And not all aspects of self identity that are a reaction between genetics and experience are easily malleable either. I am never going to be comfortable in a role requiring repetitive work, for example, or that requires me to be consistently outgoing and socially switched on, or to be an uncritical yes man. "Chill out about identity" is a good coping strategy to deal with societies that do not offer options for self expression within our natural range. Or to stop worrying so much about exactly where in our personal range of identities we land at any time. It's useful in that context, but that doesn't mean that it's desirable for everyone to be expending energy doing that work. Better to change the context if possible. I'd much rather live in a society where the people around me weren't pretending too hard, if that makes sense. Of course we're all performing, but it would be nice if we were giving a performance we also enjoy as much as possible.

  • @cl114c0777498d

    @cl114c0777498d

    27 күн бұрын

    I think one can be forced to play a game (eg. in school sports), without losing sight that it is a game made of arbitrary rules. And the issue addressed in the quote, is about maintaining awareness that these rules by which you play are not 'reality' but are themselves a position you perform within the confines of the game (with the willingness of your participation in the game being only secondary to understanding you are 'playing' it).

  • @mike110111
    @mike11011128 күн бұрын

    I loved this. A very clear and easy to follow rounding up of everything that's been happening

  • @cthroatbill5192
    @cthroatbill51925 күн бұрын

    I guess my stock price is zero, because I don't have a profile.

  • @sonofawil
    @sonofawilАй бұрын

    This argument fails to recognize the storytelling failings in recent Hollywood movies. This model of human identity doesn’t justify telling stories with no character development for fear of your curated protagonist appearing weak.

  • @timy9197

    @timy9197

    28 күн бұрын

    It also has no connection to it. Those movies have existed long before that. Case and point 2:48

  • @NotsoGreat36

    @NotsoGreat36

    26 күн бұрын

    Without having even started this video, I can tell you that it is probably not an argument for not telling stories but an interrogation of how storytelling has changed in Hollywood to suit modern times, for better or worse. I think you’re looking for “my side=right” arguments in the wrong place. To discuss the philosophy of any time period be it through the study of their textbooks or art, is to acknowledge the gray that exists in the interpretation and telling of the story.

  • @jasonshaw2065
    @jasonshaw206524 күн бұрын

    Another example of Profilicity is in customer segmentation or "personas" in the corporate world. Businesses are too large to know their customer personally, so they need shorthand buckets to know how to relate to people on the other end of the phone or screen. Pine and Gilmore attempt to explain and improve on this in their books Experience Economy and Mass Customization. Cheers!

  • @TeodorAngelov
    @TeodorAngelov26 күн бұрын

    Now that's a step up

  • @schtuff.8207
    @schtuff.820723 күн бұрын

    This is a profound video. I noticed this watching movies as I grew up, and I feel as a millennial such a fixation on authenticity burned into my psyche. Now its picking the right enemies for sufficient validation to survive, which forces a polarization of ideas and a lack of originality in how we question social structures. It seems like there's always a new way the pursuit of identity changes... and always towards whatever s more profitable. Identities, even performative political/social justice/anti-social justice ones all have different product lines associated with them, and they all make reams of money for social media. Capitalism seems to be the grand homogenizer.

  • @grandsome1
    @grandsome124 күн бұрын

    Social curation has been with us way before social media, the concept of honor, reputation, and saving face were alway very strong social forces in opposition to the authentic individual, there was and there's still blood spilled to protect curated group and individual self-images, and you can see that intense pressure still existing in its old-school form in non-western/traditional/communal societies as well as all the damage it causes.

  • @gustavomarquez1856
    @gustavomarquez185629 күн бұрын

    Amazing video!! I really enjoy them. I think that they go a little bit deeper than the face value critics overspread in youtube.

  • @americasqb
    @americasqbАй бұрын

    Sooooo good!

  • @voiceofstem
    @voiceofstem28 күн бұрын

    I was really into this, up until it's conclusion. Profilicity is shallow and is making us collectively depressed, and real authenticity can be achieved or at least approached.

  • @Halkin85
    @Halkin8528 күн бұрын

    Wouldn't this theory also work when applying it to those making media. Rather than caring about the story they care about how they are perceived by creating the media, which is the argument that the "media is tainted by ideological hacks".

  • @kashhusain8154
    @kashhusain8154Ай бұрын

    I have now watched this video. I found it interesting but some things you say don't sit well with me. Your arguments are well-constructed so it will be an enjoyable challenge to interrogate your points and get to the bottom of why I disagree. I'll really get a chance to progress my understanding of myself. Thanks.

  • @BigToody

    @BigToody

    Ай бұрын

    You gonna tell us what you disagree with?

  • @alexp1408
    @alexp140819 күн бұрын

    Moller's whole prolificity angle is just an attempt to rebrand the age-old object-subject binary paradox.

  • @phyarth8082
    @phyarth808215 күн бұрын

    Authenticity, individuality, originality, identity is nice. What if humans are just organic automatons Clockwork Orange winded spring clock mechanical mechanism. Biggest joy in life is move from point A to point B. All walk and all play makes a Jack joyful boy. "Supertoys Last All Summer Long" is a science fiction short story by Brian Aldiss, rewritten by S. Kubrick directed AI movie by Steven Spielberg. German verb spielen to play. The conjugation of spielenBERG. (*batteries not included) is a 1987 American science fiction comedy-drama executive producer Steven Spielberg.

  • @onthebay15
    @onthebay15Ай бұрын

    ive always pondered on the idea of identity and what it means. even going far as to play with thoughts of free will even being a thing or not. i concluded that people put too much importance on identity and their need for it. after all focusing and consuming on any one thing is harmful.

  • @Dolphen__
    @Dolphen__Ай бұрын

    Love content that lightens my POV

  • @evelingfranciscacordovacar6813
    @evelingfranciscacordovacar6813Ай бұрын

    What a good video! Thank you so much for this content 🙏

  • @benjaminduval6054
    @benjaminduval6054Ай бұрын

    Your videos are a breath of fresh air.

  • @TheNeededDiscussion
    @TheNeededDiscussion23 күн бұрын

    You don't have to agree with the messages in films to enjoy them.

  • @zachwhitehorn7926
    @zachwhitehorn792629 күн бұрын

    Damn, South Park has been on top of this from jump.

  • @samphelps856
    @samphelps85628 күн бұрын

    Thank you

  • @climagabriel9893
    @climagabriel989329 күн бұрын

    As well as Status and Culture by David Marx

  • @MRR2000
    @MRR2000Ай бұрын

    Thanks to you I'm in love with South Park 🙏

  • @brooksrobertson2500
    @brooksrobertson250028 күн бұрын

    Wow this was fantastic. I took notes! 😂

  • @NebMotion
    @NebMotion26 күн бұрын

    12:00 what does it mean if i watch jared

  • @LuisSierra42
    @LuisSierra42Ай бұрын

    FINALLY a reasonable take on the woke issue!!

  • @matthewboyd8689
    @matthewboyd868927 күн бұрын

    I think they should stop it being the focus like specific effects. I can't remember who said it, but when you treat the special effects as if they aren't important, you focus on the parts of the story that actually are even if the special effects are now no longer taking up the majority of the scene space wise or by time. I think Kipo and the age of the wonderbeast did this right. Its there, but it doesn't make it a pivotal part of the story or shove it in your face.

  • @keisukekun86
    @keisukekun8628 күн бұрын

    To what degree are these different frameworks (identity technologies) in conversation with one another within a person at the same time? Every framework mentioned here seems like something I fit into, or perhaps they describe non-exclusive ways of thinking about myself. I fit into roles (husband, father, etc.), I quest for authenticity, and commitment to bigger ideals (advocacy, etc.) has always been a big part of what I think about myself. Sometimes those frameworks come into conflict (can I commit to a particular political goal if doing so would make me a less involved dad?). Perhaps all of these frameworks have always existed and strain against one another, and certain frameworks just rise to prominence in shared culture in waves over time. I dunno. I don't typically think about stuff like this. I feel like I could ask a million questions, but it would take years of dedicated study to get a remotely justified answer for any of them.

  • @climagabriel9893
    @climagabriel989329 күн бұрын

    Definitely read Moeller's book

  • @PikeProductions23
    @PikeProductions2328 күн бұрын

    I thought the thumbnail had one of those age filters of you lol

  • @zainmudassir2964
    @zainmudassir296429 күн бұрын

    Dr Moeller is amazing and insightful

  • @zacrl1230
    @zacrl1230Ай бұрын

    Disney, or any other production company, wouldn't do it if we didn't buy it. Just like the 24-hr news network, we get what we watch because it's what we watch most.

  • @quintessenceSL

    @quintessenceSL

    Ай бұрын

    Denies the observation of Edward Bernays or Chomsky. It is the logic of the market taken to stupid levels. Lead in Lunchables? Well obviously it's what the public wants.

  • @zacrl1230

    @zacrl1230

    Ай бұрын

    @@quintessenceSL Disney and the rest of Hollywood, and the news for the matter, put what we ask for/want (aka what sells) into their media intentionally. Do you think Kraft intentionally put the lead in the Lunchables?! Because intention is what it would take to for your what-about-ism to be relevant in any meaningful fashion.

  • @Vladimir-Struja
    @Vladimir-StrujaАй бұрын

    is there a full conversation posted somewhere?

  • @Vladimir-Struja

    @Vladimir-Struja

    29 күн бұрын

    ah, ko fi , new cryptic service, thanks!

  • @suntzupup
    @suntzupupАй бұрын

    This is a great video

  • @cthroatbill5192
    @cthroatbill51925 күн бұрын

    "somehow Palpatine returned" no, I am pretty sure movies are being written by hacks. I have read better fan fiction than those new star wars movies.

  • @PeterZeeke
    @PeterZeekeАй бұрын

    where did you interview carefreewandering?

  • @GuillermoArcon
    @GuillermoArconАй бұрын

    Change market

  • @jeremybregulla6670
    @jeremybregulla6670Ай бұрын

    great video

  • @deogiriyadav8399
    @deogiriyadav839922 күн бұрын

    Have u ever heard about.... Sardar udham.... Movie 2021....???

  • @andu1854
    @andu185422 күн бұрын

    I am still not sure a majority of people who throw the word woke around actually know what it actually meAnd

  • @metaouroboros6324
    @metaouroboros6324Ай бұрын

    If possible, can you do something on cyberpunk 2077? Just finished the game looks like something youd be into.

  • @manticoraus
    @manticoraus26 күн бұрын

    Why do you sound like the upper echelon guy? Does he hore you for voice work or is he using a filter?

  • @rottensquid
    @rottensquid28 күн бұрын

    I think it's a mistake to assume anything going on today is particularly new. The only thing new is the actual set of values being expressed. But if you look back through the history of Hollywood, and pop culture in general, you can find a long, banal history of mediocre entertainment trying to add value by passing itself off as a moral guide. The only difference I see is that the old westerns that hamhandedly espoused the values of the '50s were, in fact, espousing the "traditional" values of the '50s. I remember, as a kid back in the 80s, reading old Tarzan books from the early 20th century , and coming across a segment in which the story came to a grinding halt so that Edgar Rice Burroughs could explain what a perversely dysfunctional society would inevitably arise should the natural order of men dominating women be somehow reversed. Mr. Burroughs clearly had an ax to grind about it, but it was disturbing and off-putting enough for me to stop reading the series. Modern pop culture has become much cleverer in how they deliver their value messages, especially when they're traditional, conservative values. No one really thinks much about the subtext of Die Hard, in which the "obsolete" husband who's no longer the breadwinner nevertheless proves his essential value in the family, not as a loving father and homemaker, but as a violent defender. It's so natural to the story, you might not even consider it as a push-back against the notion of the "house-husband." Media is full of this kind of messaging, whether it's even aware of it or not. And it's also full of subtle (and not so subtle) subversions of this kind of traditional messaging. This may be why queer artists often do so well in mainstream media. If subversion is subtle enough, it can speak to the notion of authenticity. Shrek may not have a queer dimension, but Mulan definitely does. Whatever her motives, Mulan's rejection of gender norms creates a direct connection between queerness and authenticity, bridging the gap between people with alternative genders or sexualities, and anyone who feels stifled by the reductive roles society forces on them. What strikes me about the current "Woke" language in Hollywood is that it's no more or less sincere than any other blatant, on-the-nose language to pander to an audience. It's just that some of the audience, the part that's used to being pandered to, is disoriented and put off that the media isn't specifically for them anymore. And what's worse, the media in question is spelling this out in no uncertain terms. And I have to agree that this doesn't make for the best art. There's nothing more tiresome than a story practically breaking the fourth wall to explain what side it's on in the political debate. Great art doesn't have to explain. The meaning is embedded in the text. Even back in Jane Austen's day, she made fun of books that were meant to be instructions for the moral betterment of young women. Her own work needed not explain what was morally correct. The stories demonstrated it without having to point to it. But they can't all be Jane Austen. The hardest, most important part of art is to convey its underlying meaning. So to me, what's called 'virtue signaling,' and held up as the downfall of entertainment is just the new version of the same old problem: it's not all gonna be Shakespeare. Some writers are better than others at conveying what their story means without having to explain directly. Some aren't particularly good at even articulating what they mean. Some don't have much to say other than "fight scenes are cool," or whatever. It would be absurd to suggest Edgar Rice Burroughs wasn't sincere in his weird rantings, that he was cynically pandering to the pressures of the pro-patriarch audience. Even today, the Jack Reacher books, which the author himself calls pandering to his particular audience, clearly aren't insincere. To me, the bad-faith position is to dismiss any moral standpoint you don't agree with as insincere. And just because it's written badly doesn't prove its insincerity. That's a fundamentally disingenuous argument.

  • @EatSleepEmpire
    @EatSleepEmpire12 күн бұрын

    This seems like great knowledge, but I think it misses the point that we’ve always curated our identities, we’re just exposed to more, and more extreme views that arise as reactions to loss of hope. Hippies were very much a curated identity. Princess Leia was a classic example of early feminist rebellion. Ripley or Sarah Connor as basically a male characters. Eowyn saying “i am no man”. For every Rey saying “stop holding my hand” is a classic Kylo being a macho leader. Ghost Busters was still an all SNL cast like the original. And it didn’t erase the original. The new ones with the kids aren’t much better but don’t get the same flack. The real issue is we have all this knowledge but poor leadership and wisdom to make sense of it. People also lack context even though there’s no better time in the world to have access to it.

  • @Somereasonstolive
    @SomereasonstoliveАй бұрын

    Good content

  • @jonathanmulondo9206
    @jonathanmulondo9206Ай бұрын

    Honestly I kinda of miss old school entertainment because in film 🎥 and TV they at least took creative risks. Now these days everything is decided by a committee or AI

  • @MathieuRouland
    @MathieuRouland29 күн бұрын

    can't stop saking my band to be more "authentic" and they never quite get it - i juste realized it's cause i'm the only one above 30 lmao

  • @ZachBobBob
    @ZachBobBob27 күн бұрын

    He look like Jared's dad tho

  • @rangereric18
    @rangereric1827 күн бұрын

    I'll save you the 17 minutes. Ot all comes down to money. They want everyone's money and they don't want to miss out on getting your money, either. Whatever platitudes or representation they push forward, keep in mind that it isn't altruistic. Its self serving and always about more money.

  • @artbanks27

    @artbanks27

    27 күн бұрын

    Absolutely, identities and role medels became yet another product to sell an consume.

  • @rhymingisfun1

    @rhymingisfun1

    19 күн бұрын

    17 minutes exploring how humans have historically and now contemporarily construct their identity, and the effect this has had on cinema throughout the years, is hardly summed up by saying "it all comes down to money."

  • @SamSepiolTheHeretic
    @SamSepiolTheHeretic18 күн бұрын

    Similarly to Bernie, MAGA people will point out Trump has been saying the same things since his Oprah interview in the 90s. His authenticity fits his brand.

  • @CatrinaDaimonLee
    @CatrinaDaimonLeeАй бұрын

    13:04 '...whic is not to say these movies arent good" after you mention lady ballers. lady ballers for best picture at the next oscars yo justin bieber for president

  • @KrytoRift
    @KrytoRift19 күн бұрын

    Now i see why you parted ways with wisecrack. No shade on them. Still love those guys but you have a much less predictable and nuanced point of view. I like being able to say, i never thought about it that way. Thats how discourse is born

  • @mikearchibald744
    @mikearchibald74428 күн бұрын

    The hollywood industry has never changed its message. Number one, you are talking about only one genre, the problem is thats the only genre people will go to cinemas to see. But for the 'woke' crowd, american cinema has always pushed individual exceptionalism. The 'lone white hero'. Institutions are always corrupt, organizations are corrupt, the 'freestanding individual' saves the day. The eighties were FULL of that, in fact ALL of that. Individual white mostly male heroes saving the day. I should add that that changes by decade, because the seventies and sixties saw very different kinds of movies. But now disney knows that women are the ones geting the education, getting more politically active, and will have far more power in the future. So now the same heroes are women. If you are old enough to understand this, you AREN"T the market. The attempt is to foster that same sense of individual accomplishment in young girls, because women historically have been much more 'democratic' in their organization, typically out of necessity. To MODERN viewers when they see NEW movies they are seeing the opposite of what they say, but really dont want to admit that their views were similarly fashioned by Hollywood and society to an even greater degree because there were fewer outlets.

  • @Watch-0w1
    @Watch-0w127 күн бұрын

    It seem to me , when you interrupt with someone you give up a piece of yourself. If you interact with more than one person give up even bigger piece of yourself. If you interact with a crowd of people you give yourself up to all become a simple brand

  • @HenryCasillas
    @HenryCasillas25 күн бұрын

    ❄️

  • @bickbalsy
    @bickbalsyАй бұрын

    10:40 The desire to record an event has many reasons: to relive it later, to zoom in closer, to share the experience with friends and family who couldn't be there, and even a sense that it is more real (ie take a photo or it didn't happen). I just don't think it should be assumed that it is for online status.

  • @warbler1984
    @warbler1984Ай бұрын

    I felt this was a little too esoteric and the premise is a bit flawed...if woke media is a reflection of us then why was this only ever popular with a very small group of people. Movies such as ghostbusters show that people don't connect with the movie as a route to social approval It's just bad and cheap art...whereas a movie like Oppenheimer has complex dimensional characters. And it's not about a lack of money, the rings of power was uber expensive but uber poorly received

  • @willichtenstein7071

    @willichtenstein7071

    Ай бұрын

    Those are very surface level opinions that ignore the production of your examples. The all female Ghostbusters was created first because of decades of the original cast refusing to do another movie, notably Bill Murry and his feud with Harold Ramis. And second by the Director who after getting a green light on his pitch received total creative control and made himself the writer. Which is incredibly important because that director not only copied the original Ghostbusters like the failed sequel had previously. But also refused to write the script for the all female movie and relied entirely on ad-libbing. The 2016 Ghostbusters was made by an incompetent who STARTED as fight with the internet a month prior to its release because upper management likely saw the poor quality as the director needed to save his ass. That's why there was this marketing attempt to get women into the cinema to "combat the sexism internet trolls". It wasn't a woke culture war, it was a dude trying to save his career because he screwed up and the studio wanted to claw back cash. A "Culture war" was a means to attempt it. Rings of Power is infamous for being made by an inexperienced studio who had enough money to prove that wealth trumps ability. Rings of power was hobbled by an inability of execution. It relied on tropes and spectacle to hide its lack of narrative skill. It just so happens that the tropes used were to pander to an audience using themes you call woke. However it was never the "wokeness" that brought 'Rings of power' or 'Ghostbusters' down. they were both failures of (Edit: the lack of) skilled labor and management. It was the greed for fame and moving personal careers upward that lead to the two under cooked media you like to use as straw men for "wokeness". Ironic that you mention Oppenheimer as the great success when Barbie came out the same week and saw much greater success than Oppenheimer. Its like you intentionally ignore the movie that women watched and voted with their money to make more successful than your example. All because its existence is a danger to your ideas of 'wokeness being bad'.

  • @warbler1984

    @warbler1984

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@@willichtenstein7071the fact that these movies were marketed on the basis of them being "female movies" like ghostbusters and had crap production is my entire point. The fact that Hollywood thinks they can give you a lower grade copy of the original and slap "women powerby Mary Sue" on it is the issue with pandering to the left...because its pandering...its not layered art. They're dressing a pig in lipstick. I'm not ignoring the production I think they have given a 1 dimensional art piece to the viewer. I didn't miss that Barbie did very well. In part because I think it may have a feminist message but it does have a mote complex background message that can actually be reflective of feminism in terms of how restrictive feminism can be...its not a pure feminist fantasy e.g. Ken is just Ken he is an accessory to Barbie and not his own entity much like modern feminism doesn't take a true holistic view if equality of the sexes

  • @davidletarte214

    @davidletarte214

    Ай бұрын

    @@willichtenstein7071 a very intelligent & nuanced analysis, which is the exact opposite of using a word like "woke" (even south park called that lazy).

  • @davidletarte214

    @davidletarte214

    Ай бұрын

    @@warbler1984 the point is that ghostbusters 2016 didn't fail because of woke marketing or because of female mary sues or whatever. this guy JUST spelled out that incompetence & greed were the culprits & to shrug that off & instead blame it all on pandering is not only dishonest but crude & superficial as well. you criticize the movie as "not layered art," but that argument lacks depth all the same...

  • @warbler1984

    @warbler1984

    Ай бұрын

    ​@davidletarte214 your saying that the movie was made by an incompetent fool but then somehow think its an invalid criticism to say that the art is not layered?? My argument is that his pandering is a result of poor ability and interest in telling a good story...the pandering is just a gimmick to disguise his incompetence Ghostbusters was bad in a similar way that Ayn Rands Atlas Shrugged is bad...all the characters are like an embodiment of an ideology they're 1 dimensional strawmen...whether it be Rands objectivism or Ghostbusters women power And let's stop pretending there isn't a reasonable interpretation of what woke could mean...its a constellation of left wing ideals that primarily promote modern critical theory ideas

  • @Anerisian
    @AnerisianАй бұрын

    +1

  • @gokiburi-chan4255
    @gokiburi-chan425529 күн бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant video

  • @1massboy
    @1massboyАй бұрын

    It money. It all about money and chasing trends.

  • @matteofurlotti6211
    @matteofurlotti6211Ай бұрын

    🫀

  • @newsaucegod4206
    @newsaucegod4206Ай бұрын

    Jared, look at the right rn. Only people over there is almost like a cult if you asked me😅

  • @xXluluchanelXx

    @xXluluchanelXx

    Ай бұрын

    with all the love in the world, as a progressive leftist, look at how libs responded to war in Ukraine and the horrors in Gaza (bloodthirsty and giggling all the way)... people who defend the status quo can be found across the board and the status quo loves a cult mentality.

  • @LuisSierra42

    @LuisSierra42

    Ай бұрын

    Both sides look like a cult, there are extremists in both

  • @HanmaHeiro
    @HanmaHeiro29 күн бұрын

    I'm not saying Moeller and Jared are father and son. But I am saying they share an ancestor hahah

  • @lovelifeanarchy
    @lovelifeanarchyАй бұрын

    Its because of the tiny hat people Jared, you know this,

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