Honestly, the last chapter of the book (which was cut out of the movie) really changes what the whole story is about. Alex after having Ludovico reversed has a new gang of droogs but ultimately decides to leave that life behind and grow up. He couldn’t *be* cured - he had to cure himself

@richh9450

2 ай бұрын

Kubrick purposely left the last chapter out. He just said "I don't need it"

@dothiussteele

Ай бұрын

I know the last chapter is supposed to be allegorical but he just decides to leave his past behind way too quickly in the last chapter...and the end of the movie actually doesn't do away with or deny it. In fact there were originally versions of the book that didn't include the last chapter. What really boggles my mind is how close this movie is to the book *apart from the removal of the final chapter and the age of the character not being clear in the movie* and how far from the book The Shining is from the movie.

@hannoverfiste4126

Ай бұрын

​@@richh9450 He supposedly read the american version that left it out. But the ending of the film also seems to indicate he was aware of it. If I remember right, he got married in the book or something.

@bf9323

Ай бұрын

Kubrick made the right choice to leave it out

@KevinGalindo

28 күн бұрын

@@dothiussteele True! The Shining is very different from the book. I think it comes down to Kubrick’s intent. He reads a book that inspires him to tell a story about a particular topic, and the source material is just a vehicle to tell the story. If the vehicle remains helpful to tell that particular story, it remains in the film. If it doesn’t, he does away with it. In a clockwork orange, the book was almost a perfect vehicle but you can see that the reformation of the character in the final chapter goes against the story he is trying to tell about the relationship between art and morality. It would put the emphasis so much more on how choice and agency are essential in morality, which is a completely different story. My guess is simply that he never really cared about adaptation as a form of bringing a book to life, and in the shining he just happened to want to tell a very different story, so the vehicle ended up being ditched pretty fast.

I'll never forget what the prison chaplain said to Alex, "When a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man." That line still resonates with me.

@DesertRat332

3 ай бұрын

And that's what we do to old people. We take away their right to choose. Your most important freedom is freedom of choice.

@ravissary79

3 ай бұрын

​@@DesertRat332who does this to old people?

@ButtersCCookie

3 ай бұрын

There is no choosing. You don't. Externals do. "They do". Not the right color, sex, education, height, place, time, group, clothes, brilliance or family your life changes in an instant.

@miquebts

3 ай бұрын

They predicted the npcs

@miquebts

3 ай бұрын

​@@DesertRat332na this generation of npcs did it to themselves

I wrote an analysis on ACO at uni. I concluded that it has the message that rehabilitation is impossible without contrition. Alex never shows any genuine remorse so he'll never be rehabilitated.

@charlesreid9337

3 ай бұрын

literally the only intelligent comment ive seen. Including in the video. Though im pretty sure the youtuber and most of his commenters are sociopaths and or liberal arts majors

@giovanna722

3 ай бұрын

Makes perfect sense.

@vincentcrowley5196

3 ай бұрын

He was cured all right😅

@TheLokiBiz

3 ай бұрын

He is rehabilitated though - At least in the novel. Frankly, you're missing the point of A Clockwork Orange unless you're reading the book instead - Because the movie omits the last chapter of the book, and in doing so defeats the whole point Anthony Burgess was trying to make (hell, even the title "A Clockwork Orange" only makes sense with the last chapter of the book! - essentially he eventually finds himself in the shoes of the man he assaulted, and realizes that things go round like "a clockwork orange") . Basically the whole point of the book is supposed to be that people grow outta shit - But the movie doesn't make said point at all.

@xxeman445xx

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@TheLokiBizboth that comment and the video are about the film - which despite being based on the source material of the novel, tells whatever story the film decides to. Your comment is literally pointless if their analysis was based on the movie alone. He missed no points of the book because he wasn’t talking about it.

I feel a quote by the author is very much worth sharing here: "By definition, a human being is endowed with free will. He can use this to choose between good and evil. If he can only perform good or only perform evil, then he is a clockwork orange - meaning that he has the appearance of an organism lovely with colour and juice but is in fact only a clockwork toy to be wound up by God or the Devil or (since this is increasingly replacing both) the Almighty State" - Anthony Burgess Also, Jacks Movie Reviews has a great analysis worth checking out IMHO.

@maggyfrog

3 ай бұрын

i was quite intrigued when i watched this movie years ago when the ending is different from the books. and since at the time i've already read about how stephen king hated kubrick's adaptation of the shining, i wanted to know what burgess thought about the adaptation of his book. so burgess didn't like that kubrick changed the ending of his book. basically in the book, burgess gave our main character a chance at redemption while kubrick made him embrace is evil nature. while i understand burgess being disappointed at having his ending changed, i prefer kubrick's ending better because it strikes me as more realistic that our main character is basically a psychopath. although i understand that burgess wanted to tell his readers that we have free will and so on, that we are not merely a "clockwork orange", i find his ending to be too idealistic to a fault. in the same way that i don't buy it when a convicted serial killer suddenly turns to "god" and professes faith and all that jazz, i still think that deep down there is NO real remorse or sense of personal growth in terms of acknowledging the extent of the evil committed. this "new leaf" of turning to religion / spirituality is basically a narcissist who just wants to be seen as "good" even though there is no real accountability of the crimes committed. similarly, i don't believe the ending of the book either. i appreciate what burgess was trying to say but i think kubrick understood evil more realistically.

@leftshark_2183

3 ай бұрын

@@maggyfrog A few years back I remember Rolling Stone (I think??) published a "missing final chapter" which was omitted from the American version of the book by the original publisher. I won't give away the content but I will say it's worth a read . .

@maggyfrog

3 ай бұрын

@@leftshark_2183 i already read the book before i watched the adaptation that's why i noticed the different ending in the movie. i do remember being a little bit confused at the high hopes of the author at alex's change at the end. i read about the reasoning by the american publishers who decided to omit the final chapter and i agree that it was indeed inconsistent with the entire book. i don't hate it by any stretch. just that it was too idealistic for the character of alex.

@milascave2

3 ай бұрын

@@maggyfrog Spoiler alert: In the other version, Alex repents, gives up his violent ways, and becomes a decent and ordinary person. I agree that that ending must have been forced upon the writer in some way. It kind of undoes the meaning of the rest of the book, IMHO.

@eddiewillers1

3 ай бұрын

@@maggyfrog Kubrick always claimed that he wasn't aware of the book's final chapter - which had been excised for the US edition by W.W.Norton - in which Alex is redeemed by his new-found maturity. The mass-market Penguin edition of Burgess's novel was probably printed from the Norton plates, as it it is also missing chapter 21.

Saw it for the 1st time at 17 on LSD. What I took from it was... There are No Good Guys. Alex was doomed from the beginning. Not only did his parents fail him, but all the things that made him the criminal he was were introduced to him by society. And when they finally have him and try to fix him, They show that they are just as horrible as him. Alex was a product of the world that villainized him. It's no measure of health to be well adjusted to a sick society.

@giovanna722

3 ай бұрын

There are no good guys?? You sound like Charlie Manson who blamed everything on someone or something else. Easy cop out. Our justice system is based on the responsibility of the individual for his or her actions.

@jlarrybrewer1149

3 ай бұрын

Wow I really like your last statement “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a sick society”. That is profound.

@bernalwilliamm1666

3 ай бұрын

@@jlarrybrewer1149 Jiddu Krishnamurti quote (and a great one)

@jlarrybrewer1149

3 ай бұрын

@@bernalwilliamm1666 thanks I’m going to look him up

@JackPullen-Paradox

3 ай бұрын

There are no Good Guys, but for every collection of bad circumstance, there are those who manage to overcome them.

To be honest, I dont think anybody in 2024 will ever be able to see Notre Dame Cathedral the way it was originally desiqned

@donkeyshot8472

3 ай бұрын

the destruction of the central symbol of european christianity and enlightenment was "coincidentally" witnessed by michael (michelle) obama and entourage, who "just so happened" to be passing by the ritualistic destruction on a boat on the seine river, sipping their champagne while witnessing the incineration of the most magnificent piece of architecture ever created by western culture. what a coincidence!

@QuadraticCoStanza

Ай бұрын

They’ve created VR already that gives you all the same physiological response as experiencing something in person. Your brain doesn’t know the difference. It’s wild. I would agree if it wasn’t shown we’re actually far less complex in that regard.

What people really miss is you on wisecrack

@randomwithkevin

4 ай бұрын

We are lucky to have Wisecrack, created by Jared and co. Can’t wait to watch Thugnotes with our kids. Love these Jared videos! Miss ya buddy!

@54032Zepol

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I also miss Craig from thug notes, it's been downhill ever since

@angrychair5864

4 ай бұрын

does wisecrack still exist ? jared is way better alone. the ideas arent limited and he can say whatever he wants

@LonkinPork

4 ай бұрын

Wisecrack is doing fine, Michael's great. It sucks that the corporate owners aren't willing to put money into Thug Notes, Earthling Cinema, etc. but the current era of the channel has been really good imo

@pemauck

4 ай бұрын

Bring back 8 bit philosophy!

I've been wanting to rewatch this movie in 2024, but frankly, I have it so well memorized I can play it in my head at any moment. Real Horrorshow...

@ralfogle2480

3 ай бұрын

Righty, right, right droogy!

@Tigerbrown44

3 ай бұрын

Viddy well my brother, viddy well.

@cgardner85

3 ай бұрын

One of my choice of films I watch while I’m travelling. No wonder I get strange looks from the flight crew 😂

Plato's Republic was a thought experiment to try to create a noble society that was enduring, and he concluded that it would inevitably be corrupted from within anyway. So I don't know how serious Plato was about banishing the poets, since it doesn't prevent the collapse of the Republic.

@--Singularity--

3 ай бұрын

Well, we have woke. I would leave them out of society.

@pennywright3274

3 ай бұрын

thank you. I thought Plato was the first man to voice his concerns about kids playing violent video games. (I'm shitposting, but my thanks is sincere). (are sincere). (fuck, some grammar just does not make sense)

I've watched this movie when i was 16 years old. It fascinated me, i watched many times but there where a dissonance between what i was watchin and what i belived to be "right". This analysis was a perfect answer to myself of the past. great video!!!!

This is my all time favorite film. It's art. Like Alex, I was diagnosed as a sociopath and put into an abusive behaviour modification centre at the age of 15. The story hit home.

@Bird-wz7nx

Ай бұрын

...if you don't mind me asking, was that diagnosis even accurate, or were you just a child in bad circumstances, and were manifesting said circumstances in an unacceptable way? (Forgive me if I'm unclear/uneducated on the diagnosis of sociopath in general, but I'm not inclined to judge you on just a diagnosis, even if it were to fit) I didn't think they were allowed to make those diagbosrs at such a young age- was this a while back, or were things just that fucked

@forestxander

Ай бұрын

@@Bird-wz7nx This was in the 80s. The term sociopath isn't really used anymore, now it's called Anti-social Personality Disorder. I was in a psychiatric hospital for several months prior to the reform school and at one point, I'd been shipped out for an independent evaluation. The hospital's diagnosis was "Agressive Sociopath". The independent diagnosis was "Sociopath". The reform school was a behavior modification centre, not a theraputic environment. It was an abusive place that only made things worse (it was called Elan, you can google it, it's kind of infamous). I didn't know about the diagnoses myself until I was well into my 20s and requested my medical history. I think not telling me was a huge mistake... I could have had a better understanding of myself and might have made a couple of different choices along the way. Don't get me wrong, some of the stuff the hospital said about me was way off base. I wasn't exactly prone to chattiness and certainly did not share my life's story, so I can't 100% blame them. But the sociopath bit? Yeah, that was accurate. I'm an old lady now and being aware of how I'm wired helps me evaluate and moderate my choices in a way that's not only good for the people around me in the moment, but it's also good for me in the long run.

I didn't feel feel uplifted at the end. My feeling as more 'Oh no!'. I didn't want him recovering from the fall. The feeling would be similar to if Joffrey from GoT survived the poisoning.

@aarondunn6759

4 ай бұрын

The feeling was exactly that, as if Ted Bundy was found not guilty.

@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan

4 ай бұрын

Joffrey was never portrayed as 'cool' like Alex. Quite the opposite.

@AlmostEthical

4 ай бұрын

@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan True, but I didn't feel like a cool guy had received a reprieve, I felt like justice was not done, and a sadistic loon would once again be free to torture innocents.

@richardlandrum1966

4 ай бұрын

Kubrick omitted the final chapter of the book from the film. After being cured of the conditioning, he learns on his own the horror of his violence, has a family and becomes a music professor. While the book was a story, removing that denouement turns the movie into a fable.

@annandune

4 ай бұрын

You might find the book ending more intriguing. I say this but there is more than one. I think the original book ending has Alex being a more mature, reflective person at the end, although you could also see this as an unreliable narrator who tells us what we might want to hear. I am not sure about the change but I think Burgess was uncomfortable with it. Apparently, one of the motivations for writing the novel was an attack on his wife. Anyhow, I believe he changed the ending later to the one we see in the film. I am not sure on the chronology of all of this though so it might be worth looking it up.

I watched everything the main character did in utter horror and disgust, and I had no idea that people liked and sympathized with him. This is all just too disgusting to bear. I can't stand people anymore.

@Ian-ky5hf

2 ай бұрын

I agree with you.

@CatSchrodingers

Ай бұрын

I felt the same. Main character was a manifestation of pure mindless evil to me. Was not rooting for him at all. So after wathcing this video i wondered why and how author of the video could ever like Alex? And i have two theories 1. I am a woman and perhaps you are as well? And only man can see violance as somehing apealing. And because in real life they have to supress violent urges they enjoy seeing it at least. Some hormonal thing ??? 2. But if you are not a woman my first theory is a bit wrong. Then regardless of sex some people actually dont mind violance and would probably enjoy doing it if it was allowed. This movie is probably a good indicator of what kind of person you are at your core.

@szymonskalka3319

Күн бұрын

That’s the genius and irony of the film.

The book was meant to be a coming of age story showing how empathy is learned. The movie just cut out the last chapter where Alex sees an ex gang member with a family and then chooses to b good

Read the novel, the film leaves out the last chapter.

@nutgoof

3 ай бұрын

Great film and this was a great review. To which I also say: Read the novel.

@richardbehrle1496

3 ай бұрын

The last chapter was added sometime after the movie. The first prints of the book don’t have it. I have a first American print.

@Draegn

3 ай бұрын

@@richardbehrle1496 American publishers insisted on editing out the last redeeming chapter so that the novel would end on a darker note and be more appealing to a US audience.

@helpyourcattodrive

3 ай бұрын

Thanks.

@Rating64

3 ай бұрын

@@DraegnThis is true, also the missing chapter 21 is a symbol representing a coming of age. It wasn’t until I heard Anthony Burgess interviewed, when he spoke about the importance of chapter 21 and why it was so difficult for him to leave out but he was virtually penny less and had to sign the contract, that I checked my copy of the book and found only 20 chapters. In fact I’ve never read chapter 21 but have heard it through an audio book. As Burgess explained a novel where nothing changes is just a commentary and pointless.

In the book, Alex is 15 years old.

@cgardner85

3 ай бұрын

That was a mind blowing experience for me 😮

@jasonuerkvitz3756

3 ай бұрын

14-16 ending when he's 21, but yes, mainly when he's 15.

@rascta

3 ай бұрын

I was younger than that when I read it. Probably around 12. I thought the use of language was really interesting - all the made-up slang, that was something it had in common with Tolkien's work and with George Orwell's 1984. Didn't see the movie until years later. I still haven't seen the 1984 movie, although Brazil from 1985 was very reminiscent.

@TupDigital

3 ай бұрын

I dressed as Alex and had two of my droogs as sidekicks for Halloween when I was 14 in 1998. Still have the legendary photo. Only the adults knew enough to be disturbed when seeing us galavanting down the streets that night. I wore a jock strap with cup on the outside.

@stoicbaraaaa

3 ай бұрын

@@rasctanot quite made up… it’s Russian (or Russlish). It’s very similar to a form of pidgin where native Russian speakers move to the west and form their own dialect where it’s a mix of the two languages. Kind of interesting from a linguistic pov and I can’t imagine reading the book if I had zero Russian knowledge hahaha.

It predicted exactly where we are today.

@MaraJadeSkky

2 ай бұрын

I'm rewatching it now and goddamn you're right

Great video and a good point about art itself! Also you are one lucky man to have seen this masterpiece on a big screen, I wish they'd do that more often here

This movie left a lasting impression me. One of the all-time greats.

There is so much contained in this novel & movie to unpack. Nature vs nuture, freewill & morality, the aesthetics & rituals of dogmatic belief systems, social conditioning & engineering, the aesthetics of fascism, the inhumanity of most justice systems...I read this book in 8th grade (1974) & haven't stopped thinking about it. Saw the film many many years later (it was rated X when originally released in theatres) on VHS rental. It also stays with you.

@4862cjc

3 ай бұрын

When I was in college, I took a class that compared famous works of literature and their motion picture counterparts, such as AMADEUS and THE GODFATHER. For my final paper, I compared and contrasted the novel and film of A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.

@giovanna722

3 ай бұрын

​@@4862cjcWhat is the essential difference?

@anthonymichaeldurkin6244

3 ай бұрын

you should be financially rewarded for that comment....

I saw the film before reading the book and thought it was amazing how Kubrick used the music in the film. When I read the book (which is now one of my favourites of all time) I realised that the music was actually already in the book

@giovanna722

3 ай бұрын

After seeing the movie for the first time when it came out in the late 60's, I went out and bought the album. Played it to death.

After 3 years, I'm finally here! I've missed your wisdom Jared. You're the best

Nice work, Jared, you really got into nuances of understanding that had whizzed past me when I saw this film 50+ years ago - and pretty much ran screaming from its London premiere! (You could have saved me from a lot of anguish).

It’s interesting that you found the use of art and classical music made Alex more appealing. To me it was the opposite. I found most of the art (specifically the paintings) in the movie to be repulsive. Also the use of classical music while depicting brutal violence made the violence more unsettling, in the same way that horror movies use innocent children’s songs to juxtapose an eerie atmosphere. I personally found Alex to be more despicable than most anti-heroes, like Tony Soprano or Walter White because the tone of ACO was so off kilter from the violence displayed on screen.

@gregorymaroda4860

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. One of the reasons I find A Clockwork Orange a difficult film to watch is that it's full of ugliness and wrongness. The art and music always struck me as superficial. And Alex being given the capacity to choose violence again was not a triumph but a yet another step taken by a society that continues to do wrong by its citizens. This was, I thought, the point. The idea that we're supposed to sympathize with Alex disturbs me.

@davidortega3393

3 ай бұрын

@@gregorymaroda4860 to me, the point of ACO was never about sympathizing with Alex. Quite the opposite. It was about challenging the viewer and saying: “here is a repulsive character who is irredeemable. Does this person also deserve free will, even if they will always use it for evil?” The great thing about this movie is how different people can get different takeaways from it.

@marius4iasi

3 ай бұрын

Alex is an idolized character, more so at the time of release. He is cool, and attractive, and the violence is that of a young man against old people. You underestimate how atractive that is to young people, especially in an era of revolt as the early 70s.

@davidortega3393

3 ай бұрын

@@marius4iasi he commits SA against a woman while forcing her husband to watch. If that’s cool to you, something is seriously wrong with you.

@marius4iasi

3 ай бұрын

@@davidortega3393 yes, he does. I did not say it's cool to me. No need to moral police me. You need to understand the context of this film, and the argument in the op, which I was contesting. Kubrick's intention is very much that of making Alex the anti-hero, the bad guy that's likable, and it works, regardless if you like it or not. The video dives in this aspect of the film and puts up the theory that esthetics preceed morals, which is something humans do, as often demonstrated throughout history.

One of my favorite intellectuals talking about one of my favorite movies.

@charlesreid9337

3 ай бұрын

he is far from an intellectual. He is just using "liberal arts major" codespeak... it's positively tropish. He's fairly obviously a sociopath who doesnt get the movie because.. sociopaths dont have empathy. He idealises a psychopath then "understands that his victims are evil as well" because .. he doesnt understand emotions or empathy.. and assumes "normal" people don't because.. sociopaths think they are the norm.

@Bapuji42

3 ай бұрын

*shudder*

This is why it is a shame the movie was not based on the UK version of the book with the extra ending, Alex is actually cured, he can be violent but recognises that he has grown and needs to move on in his life, to live a "normal" life as he is entering adulthood. His friends are doing the same, moving on from being like animals before coming of age, the book ends on a hopeful note for Alex's future.

@viljamtheninja

4 ай бұрын

I think the fact that Kubrick chose to opt out of that ending makes for a very interesting contrast and I appreciate the choice. It very intentionally adds this extra layer of complexity that this video was talking about, in how art can condition us to associate violence with pleasure etc. Of course, we may grow out of it, and in a work (like the book) focusing on the freedom of choice aspect that will of course be the main focus. But the film focuses more heavily on the conditioning power of art and entertainment, and thus that ending I think would undermine that primary theme.

@ihatespam2

4 ай бұрын

But that is an unrealistic fantasy. Sociopaths don’t magically learn empathy.

@viljamtheninja

4 ай бұрын

@@ihatespam2 Except... no. The world is full of people who were terrible people when they were young and bettered themselves as they grew and matured.

@ruthbennett7563

3 ай бұрын

I came to this comment section to see if someone mentioned the original book ending. I didn’t find it hopeful. Alex’s desire to marry & settle down seemed to be a perpetuation of his/our cycle of dysfunction & folly.

@Tusitala1967

3 ай бұрын

@@ruthbennett7563 I felt the same way. It was like saying that there were millions of "reformed" sociopaths who just learned to hide it better while passing it on to their children.

I'm SO glad I found this channel!! I love the fresh ideas here, so interesting. Subscribed and ready to binge!!

Of course, Kubrick adapted Anthony Burgess' novel for this. The novel is brilliant. You can only read it by using the nadsat glossary (nadsat is the language invented by Burgess). The film was banned in the UK for many years so the only access to the story was via the novel. Burgess was a brilliant and now somewhat underrrated writer.

@drew8235

3 ай бұрын

I disagree with the idea that it can only be read with a glossary, and, if I recall, the author himself stated that it was written with that in mind, that one wouldn't need or use a glossary. I read the book for the first time recently, and you can indeed read and understand it without one through context and repetition.

@gravityhamster

3 ай бұрын

You can read it unaccompanied, I did for my first book report when I was 13. You just have reread it as you go along to derive the meaning of things.

Kubrick is a Genius. In 2001 I see 2001 a space odyssey in the big screen . I from Brazil. I see 3 Kubrick 's movies on cinema. Lolita (1962) in the 90's , EWS in 1999 and 2001 a space odyssey (1968) in 2001. It was great. I have ALL Kubrick films in dvd on my Room. Also the shorts movies . And i have 2 Kubrick 's t-shirt from Amazon.

@helpyourcattodrive

3 ай бұрын

Yaaass!

I do often find I enjoy and see more out of Kubrick films when I see them on the large screen as opposed to DVD. The Shining being a great example where the camera work and sound editing have much more power.

Oh damn, it's Jared from Wisecrack! Had no idea you were even still doing things, the recommendations algorithm needs to get its shit together. A really great video on one of my all-time favorite movies, presenting a point that really made the film click even more for me. While I still see the film as essentially standing by the idea of freedom of choice over totalitarian control of the individual for the betterment of the perceived 'collective', it does a really great job at asking the question of to what extent we really do have freedom of choice, if we can be thus programmed and conditioned by the art and entertainment we consume that surrounds us from the moment we're born and creates associations in our brains that are not at all entirely rational. Excellent video.

@peterdean9181

2 ай бұрын

You should start your own KZread channel.

The purpose of the film is to demonstrate the darker side of human nature in its ugliness and grotesqueness, to say it’s a natural part of being human, and that the human condition is an innate part of what it means to be human and is not a thing that can or should be cured. The first half of the film is to show this dark side of humanity and the indulgence in it by the gang, and the fact that members of high society are at the milk bar consuming the same spiked beverage is not an accident. Then there’s the milk bar itself, the milk that instigates these darker delights comes from sculptures of breasts, as if to say this is a natural part of humanity. The second half explores the consequences of “goodness” and morality, and shows how the “good and moral victims” of Alex’s crimes are all capable of committing the same amount of violence as he and his droogs, they just see what they’re doing as a morally justified version of darkness. Alex isn’t the subject of the film he’s the observer through which we learn about what it means to be human and explore the darkness within ourselves.

@zootsoot2006

3 ай бұрын

I'd say it's to do with the Second World War. Alex and his droogs are the Nazis, obsessed with style and high German culture (Alex at least), the doctors are the Communists, seeking to control people and create a utopian vision of the 'New Man', and the politicians are the Western Capitalists, without any particular morals or principles and just following whatever is most expedient. The end shows how the Nazis (Germans) were freed from the Communists by the Capitalists and made to join their team.

@zerobyte802

3 ай бұрын

In the book, He ends up choosing good of his own free will after the government undoes the treatment. The author says this is because increased maturity revealed to him that destruction is easy and therefore ultimately unfulfilling compared to constructive endeavors.

@ericwest2986

3 ай бұрын

@@zerobyte802 An interesting facet: the movie was based on the American version of the book, which removed the final chapter that has the ending you reference.

@zerobyte802

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I first learned about that from a foreword in my copy. I bought the book because I was interested in Naadsat, and figured the book would give more exposure to it than the movie did. (it did)

@TheLokiBiz

3 ай бұрын

Naw. Frankly, you're missing the point of A Clockwork Orange unless you're reading the book instead - Because the movie omits the last chapter of the book, and in doing so defeats the whole point Anthony Burgess was trying to make (hell, even the title "A Clockwork Orange" only makes sense with the last chapter of the book! - essentially he eventually finds himself in the shoes of the man he assaulted, and realizes that things go round like "a clockwork orange") . Basically the whole point of the book is supposed to be that people grow outta shit - But the movie doesn't make said point at all.

Most every scene is sublimely framed with a pyramid or triangle..

@towardthewithin4018

3 ай бұрын

Good observation

@pandakicker1

3 ай бұрын

Kubrick was a genius for such things and I adore it, too. That is why he is my favorite Director.

@jasonnicholasschwarz7788

3 ай бұрын

like in: he was a high ranking Freemason?@@pandakicker1

This flair came through in the book even moreso. Kubrick definitely captured this well, but Anthony Burgess got there first. And the slang reference that comes with most editions is so dope.

This is why I subscribed to Wisecrack

When I tell people this is one of my fav movies they’re usually a little weirded out, then I explain why and they get it

@anthonymichaeldurkin6244

3 ай бұрын

find people you dont need to explain it to....

I am interested in hearing your opinions on how the movie decided to arguably change the meaning of the story by not finishing in the same way as the book?

@b.l.fisher8230

3 ай бұрын

I had the same thought. Kubrick purposely left out the final chapter (because the American version did) of the book. I think the original ending reinforces the moral of the film. You can't be forced to change, you have to come to it on your own...

@CoppersmithProductions

3 ай бұрын

@@b.l.fisher8230 Yes! The point of the original novel is quite clear, as you mentioned. Kubrick choosing to go with the American version forces viewers to do mental gymnastics to find deeper meanings where there originally were none. Is that good or bad? I'd say Kubrick made it more interesting, but destroyed the author's intent in the process.

@b.l.fisher8230

3 ай бұрын

@CoppersmithProductions I agree, when I saw the movie as a kid, (as mentioned in this video) I felt conflicted about Alex. At first he is a monster, but after he goes to jail & his eventual release, you feel bad for him. The end to me, (remember I was a kid) I felt like I wanted to see him get his revenge. Which, I think Kubrick liked the ambiguity of the end of the American version. Especially since he lived in England and had read the original ending. It blew my mind when I read it in my early 20's. Didn't see that coming & it stuck with me. I don't want to give it away, if some people are curious, but it definitely puts a different light on Alex's entire story arc.

Great thesis: "Kubrick's point isn't just that morality needs choice, but that morality can take a backseat to the aesthetic... In a time when art can be completely alienated from it's original context and redirected to other ends, humanity has perhaps never been more susceptible to ideological manipulation."

@NoNumbersAfterName

4 ай бұрын

Also presented as "Style Over Substance" in the Cyberpunk canon.

Jared, watching your videos thaught me how to express my philosophical ideas in a non-boring way. You do that really good.

I feel like I just watched someone defend their PHD thesis. This is an incredible essay. Recently I’ve been watching Eyes Wide Shut again and am obsessed with it all over again. How one little admission of a fantasy by a guys wife can almost destroy his life. I might be crazy ( yes I am) but EWS is Kubrick’s masterpiece I think even eclipsing Clockwork and Barry Lyndon ( both of which are masterpieces too).

@andreafreja7472

3 ай бұрын

Why do you consider Eyes Wide Shut the best out of Kubricks works?

@uneedtherapy42

3 ай бұрын

I think because the essence of EWS is we are compelled by what appears to be than what actually is. None of the fantasy that Alice describes ever happens in real life but Bill is so agitated by it he nearly destroys his own life in trying to exact some kind of revenge in his nocturnal fantasy daydream he goes on. As we see it never is satisfying for him. Also I find the sequences with Nick Knightengale and Milloch the store owner to be incredibly well done. Almost as if those characters aren’t real but just part of his feverish dream of revenge. The sex stuff I find too over the top in ways but that’s just my opinion. Bill is very relatable to every guy whereas Alex and Barry ( though incredibly well acted) are not.. to me any way. We could all be Bill in simple terms. Plus the scene in the billiards room with Sydney Pollack is masterful. What great acting there. @@andreafreja7472

@andreafreja7472

3 ай бұрын

@@uneedtherapy42 thank you for this reply. I haven't seen möte than 10 minutes of the movie, a long while ago, so your analysis of it intrigues me to rewatch and finish the movie

That's really sad that it took 20 years. Pretty straightforward story.

00:00 🎥 "A Clockwork Orange" explores the interplay between choice and morality, suggesting that stripping people of the capacity for evil erases their humanity. 01:38 🔄 The film challenges the notion of triumphant endings by portraying the protagonist's liberation, revealing the audience's sympathy for a likable yet violent character. 03:37 🎨 "A Clockwork Orange" emphasizes aesthetics to manipulate viewer sympathies, demonstrating how art can be used for ideological conditioning. 05:07 📽 Walter Benjamin's theory of mechanical reproduction highlights how art's mass production can erode its original aura, making it susceptible to political manipulation. 08:30 🎶 Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, featured prominently in the film, symbolizes ideological contradictions and critiques the notion of universal beauty. 10:32 💡 Slavoj Žižek's analysis suggests that art, like Beethoven's music, can reflect societal contradictions and serve as a tool for ideological manipulation. 12:35 🤔 The film's conclusion prompts reflection on the celebration of a sociopath's "cure," questioning whether morality or aesthetics take precedence in societal judgments.

it really does get better as you age. every time I watch it I find new things to like about it and walk away with more of its message

@deltalima6703

3 ай бұрын

Saw it when it was fairly new and I thought it was terrible. Pretty much unwatchable. My opinion changed later and it became one of the best movies, in my opinion. Its subtle.

What I love about this movie (and book) is that there are so many theories and discussions in the video and here in the comments, and they are all great points and valid takeaways

Alex is seen as a cool hero and role-model by generations of skinheads and hooligans

@rickwilliams967

3 ай бұрын

I don't think that's true, but okay.

@jasonkinzie8835

3 ай бұрын

Which is pretty horrifying.

@dariohenriquez7773

3 ай бұрын

@@rickwilliams967 it is

@towardthewithin4018

3 ай бұрын

I could imagine it

I freaking love Kubrick ❤️

I didn't realize you have a personal channel (or a twitch). I have always loved your analysis and ability to connect philosophies across the ages. Definitely subscribed.

This video will stick with me for a while, absolute masterpiece

Only just started watching, so apologies if you mentioned it, but did you know the ending of the book, as first published, had an extra chapter that was removed when the movie came out? I know, because I used to own a copy - I'm an old fart, saw the movie on its first release, and was already a fan of Anthony Burgess. In the additional chapter, Alex simply grows out of his old ways and settles down to a regular life. No great epiphany, no fuss - he just grows out of it.

I came to all the same conclusions studying the hell out of this after film school, reading critical essays, and chopping it up in final cut. You know this place makes me wonder, which would be worse? To live as a monster? Or die a good mman?

@mr.pavone9719

4 ай бұрын

Or is it better to be a bad man who becomes good by his own choice than to be a good man all along?

@tysonn4736

4 ай бұрын

@@mr.pavone9719 Both are fine.

@JackPullen-Paradox

3 ай бұрын

To deliberately viciously hurt others can't be good either way.

🎵 I’m singin’ in the rain… 🎶 Just singin’ in the rain… 🎼

Jared! These are such good topics and articulations.

Jared, you're hair helmet is awesome!

In grade 11 our English teacher had us read the book and told us a local theatre would be showing the film at a midnight screening. We all showed up with fake ID and joined him. The book! Please read the book! Then see the film knowing that the writer in both film and book is the book's author Anthony Burgess. I wish you could have all been there for the class discussion. The 80's back when you weren't just expected to be an adult at 16, you kinda were.

@viljamtheninja

4 ай бұрын

So everyone in your class had a fake ID?

@detaineepyramid

4 ай бұрын

Shortminute's comment reminds me of the HBO movie "Class Action Park," specifically the bespectacled interviewer: growing up we would try and die for fun. Then later talking about how the same fun stories become subjects for therapy sessions. :D kzread.info/dash/bejne/lW2Io6V6lLfPc8Y.html

This film never gets old. This was well done.

Perfect meritocracy is obviously a fantasy, but it can't be dissolved without a more useful one taking its place.

@EdwardGregoryNYC

3 ай бұрын

My dad used to say the same about democracy or capitalism.

@virtualalias

3 ай бұрын

@@EdwardGregoryNYC Smart guy; or at least more common sense than a lot of folks.

HE IS A MURDERER but he is kinda cute. - Leslie Jordan.

This is the best video I have seen on ACO and explains exactly why the film is a mesmerizing masterpiece.

Alternative title for the film: The birth of a politician.

Much of what was most interesting about the movie was a direct translation from the book. The epilogue (last chapter) was omitted by kubric, to the authors dismay, which showed Alex’s organic maturation.

@ZachariahJ

4 ай бұрын

Just commented that! Sorry, missed the fact you mentioned it. But later versions of Burgess's book also omitted the last chapter, so it fitted with the movie.

@JaminInDarkness

4 ай бұрын

That's a good way to describe the original ending. The full book consists of 3 sections of 7 chapters, if memory serves. The last chapter was left out of American editions for many years. That was the version that Kubrick used, apparently.

I once had a one hour conversation about this movie with a preacher who said that the movie had caused him to become a preacher ! And he said that The director was responsible for his decision to go religious because of his thoughts on life and politics and religion watching the film !he said that it was probably the most important thing he ever watched .

@DJWESG1

3 ай бұрын

Did he see himself turning to ultra violence?

The emphasis on Slavoj Zhizhek is for me a mind blower. Having read his book Opera's Second Death in pursuit of my Wagner studies, this unique perspective on ACO is...well equally mind blowing. I was in a theater during the first week of ACO's release and together with the friensd with me, wouldn't have in a million years gasped these insights. Thank you so much for expanding my aging brain with your fascinating revelations.

As always, another great philosophy lesson in the form of the breakdown of a classic.

One of the things i noticed when watching this in my old age is a comment on the pendulum of extreme left and extreme right politics. We start off in a depressed socialist economy where everyone lives in decrepit public housing and elderly people have to work in factories. Public institutions like education are corrupt because the public has no power to challenge their methods. It leads to the break down of the family and traditional values leading to crime and social unrest... ...and then the crisis leads to fascism, where the people cry out for law and order, leading to jack booted thugs patrolling the streets, and the government engaging in Joseph Mengele esq social experiments. Then in the last scene the fascists are discredited and we're back to where we started. If the government could engage in sensible policy, they wouldn't create the problems that they then have to solve. But nobody sees the big picture, they live day by day, overreacting to whatever crisis is in front of them in the moment.

@DJWESG1

3 ай бұрын

Read more sociology

@onequickthing8950

3 ай бұрын

@@DJWESG1 No thank you.

@smiilemusic

3 ай бұрын

@@onequickthing8950 (guy who definitely knows what hes talking about) i dont wanna learn more about how society and human behavior works. my worldview is 100% right btw

@onequickthing8950

3 ай бұрын

@@smiilemusic Wow, you're really weird.

@innercynic2784

3 ай бұрын

But if as you say the government were to engage in more "sensible" policy that would result in the need for less government. And when have you ever seen an entity work to abolish itself?

Stanley Kubrick said, "A Clock Work Orange'' was a dark comedy. And that people should be laughing while watching the film. 😅

Wow. What a great video. Put into words a lot of thoughts I had about this movie... And I appreciate the Benjamin bit!

One of the best breakdowns ever👏

The book ends slightly differently. Alex stops his antisocial behaviour of his own agency because he just grows out of needing it.

@bartholomewprice3221

3 ай бұрын

Editions of the novel published in the US before 1986 omitted the final chapter, and that's what Kubrick used to write the screenplay.

@davidheiser2225

3 ай бұрын

@@bartholomewprice3221 I never knew this. Having read it in the 70's, I must have never read that last chapter. But it seems to me that a sociopath never just "grows out of it", so the idea of that chapter doesn't ring true to me.

What the real kicker with clockwork orange is, we are actually living in this time.

Have you read the book? You mentioned the end a couple of times and Kubrick omitted the final chapter of Burgess's book.

I was married to a sociopath that “loved”this movie. I was brainwashed to his antics and was unaware that he idolized Alex altogether. Saw it as a justification of violence. So here I was thinking along the lines of what is being said in this video and appreciating the book/film for the message described here and thought he was on the same page.So,I bought him AClockwork Orange t shirt for his birthday and he refused to wear it. It gives me the creeps looking back.

My favorite part was when Early Access Joker said "It's Clockworkin' Time!" and then he Orange'd all over the place. Dumb jokes aside, I did not liked the movie at first watch but it all makes sense the more you think about it. Great video, Jared.

@MarcillaSmith

4 ай бұрын

How *dare* you say that was a dumb joke!

@lionheart4424

Ай бұрын

@@MarcillaSmith aww thank you!

Has anyone investigated that the film itself acts as a Ludovico Treatment?

@Free_Beers

4 ай бұрын

didn't he mention something similar in this video?

@elvisdelarge

4 ай бұрын

Kinda? I've been looking for something about it though. Culturally. The way it got banned for years and got people talking about violence in the real world. I was hoping it would go a little deeper. Guess I have to make my own video about it? Or just keep it to myself. I already get too much grief for telling people Wall Street is a Vampire movie.

@viljamtheninja

4 ай бұрын

I think that was like... at the core of the very video. The Ludovico Treatment conditions Alex to associate violence and classical music with nausea through a series of images and sounds. A Clockwork Orange conditions the viewer to associate violence and classical music with a sense of exhilaration and joy. Art and entertainment can condition people to behaviors both moral and immoral which blurs the idea of true rationality and freedom of choice. I think that was the main thesis of this video.

@Brascofarian

4 ай бұрын

I think Kubrick has just turned in his grave.

@elvisdelarge

4 ай бұрын

Maybe not the MAIN. I'd like to dive more into the cultural part than the film as it stands. Swing Music. Rock and Roll. Comic Books. Violence in movies and video games. All have been blamed for influencing societal violence but the novel and then the film served as a warning that got blamed. Maybe I missed it but I'd like to delve further into that.

This is some of your best work

I saw this film on its release. I was 17....what an experience.

Reminds me of how comedians can sell ignorance and disinformation through their talent.

You know it’s a good movie because nobody ever makes sigma male edits of Alex. I think. Right?

@viljamtheninja

4 ай бұрын

He doesn't really fit into the whole sigma mentality. The absurdity of people who actually think sigma is a real thing is that it lies entirely in self-perception. The idea, in people who actually seem to believe in it (then again, it's the internet, who know when people are being genuine and when they're being facetious), seems to be of a loner who chooses to stay on the outside, underestimated by everyone because no one knows the true strength gained from this voluntary solitariness. Which in reality sounds more like they're creating a narrative about themselves as a secret badass to cope with loneliness and social awkwardness, a narrative that exists only in their minds and there is absolutely nothing in their actions to show for it. Alex is actually genuinely confident, outgoing, social, and all the things that a so-called "sigma male" is not. That said, I've only come across the idea in memes and occasional YT posts, so my perception may be entirely wrong.

the inspiration for my 1st hifi turntable !

A very interesting and thought-provoking take. Thanks!

slavoy zizek is a gutter tier philosopher, one that only competes with highschool dropouts on ethics, epistemology and metaphysics, but being able to recite stuff which makes his viewers believe he isnt total garbage

@kinskikulaki5286

3 ай бұрын

Wrong

@nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988

3 ай бұрын

@@kinskikulaki5286ya got me there ig

Took me less time to understand it ….saw it decades back and walk out of the theater after 10 minutes.

@radioactivetrees9626

3 ай бұрын

I'm not a fan of kubrics interpretation but why did you walk out?

@Smashingblouse

3 ай бұрын

I think it’s pretty overrated and I also think rape is unnecessary in film. I don’t need to see that crap.

@radioactivetrees9626

3 ай бұрын

@@Smashingblouse Is rape also unnecessary in literature?

@Smashingblouse

3 ай бұрын

@@radioactivetrees9626 I think sexual violence is a tricky subject either in literature or on film. Each reader/viewer will have a different response to each one. I wouldn’t go out of my way to read a book that was known for that and if I came across it in detail in a book I personally would flip the pages. There is plenty of literature with it in but when it comes up unexpectedly in a cinema it can take you unawares. I’m old and there was no IMDB parents guide when I was growing up and I’ve seen my fair share of truly awful things that I’ll not forget. As a female who was attacked when I was 18 it’s just not something visually I can stomach. Aftermath and hints that that’s what has taken place I can handle. Not the act itself though. It’s not for me. Also, I do like a lot of Kubrick’s work and I’m a big fan of film adaptations of great written pieces however the sexual violence aside I genuinely don’t think it’s as cool and culty as many people believe it to be. I find it a bit…. Obvious, I suppose 🤷🏻‍♀️. You’re a fan?

@PrinceAliTheGreatest

3 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@SmashingblouseThe author of novel of A Clockwork Orange’s wife was raped by four American men during WW2 which had inspired the scene in the book which was then adapted into Kubrick’s film. That tragedy didn’t stop the author from sharing his story on what had happened. Crime isn’t suppose to be cool or authentic. It’s suppose to be ugly and cruel in its depiction, which is why A Clockwork Orange works. Any representation of crime, violence, or anything that would is linked to negative human interaction doesn’t belong in literature then, because it triggers negative human responses despite being the intended goal, correct?

The problem with the movie is that it cuts out the last chapter of the book, where Alex decides to change, not because of the punishment, but because of his own free will.

Film is its own art medium. And as such is made to be seen on the big screen. No matter how large your TV, something gets lost by not watching in a theater. Kubrick was a visual master of film.

Alex is likeable? I didn't find the character likeable. And, this is all you came up with after 20 years?

@Trentstone121

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like you watched the first two minutes then made your post. And the best you've got is a lame insult?

@scientious

3 ай бұрын

@@Trentstone121 Sounds like you made up your mind based on nothing. I've watched the entire movie, "A Clockwork Orange", and I watched this entire video analysis. The movie was lacking and the analysis failed to point out anything that I hadn't already noticed. I can understand why if someone really liked the Alex character that that could distort their perception of the movie.

The fact that even a review of this work of art is now censored says volumes.

That movie is so brilliant that years later people are still discovering the messages in it

The movie was from a book. A clock work oronge. By Anthony burgess.

Wow just found your channel and I am highly impressed. Thank you I am subscribing!!

Excellent-s tier content. very satisfying video. ty watched this at 13, and was thoroughly disturbed-& I’m glad the aesthetics didn’t change that for me. basically all I got was: wickedness can be beautiful, keep your eyes OPEN, the devil’s in the details….

I finally understand why wiserrack has felt so hollow to me for a year and some change now. Glad I found ya again. Thabks for sharing your thoughts.

Terrific analysis. Subscribed 👍

Thank KZread for bring Jared channel to me with your recommendation!!

On the big screen a month ago? Omg that would be amazing

wow. interesting. making me think deeper about the message of one of my favorite movies.

i would love to see this on the big screen

Thoroughly enjoyed this presentation on one of my favourite films. Excellent break down very well stated. Clockwork Orange is one of those timeless classics fully deserving a continuous presence in our lives. It holds the great work of turning ignorance into a form of enlightenment through Alex's trials. He starts out as the brutish alpha male wishing to command his domain and ends with an acceptance of consequence. From self importance to self acceptance. This is how I see the films content over its course. An extreme high followed by an extreme low, to arrive back at the start again only transformed with experience.

For such an in-depth look at the movie, I was very surprised that the book wasn't mentioned once.

You had me up to “systemic barriers.”

It's going to take me 20 years to understand some of the middle section of this video, but it's gonna be worth it.

Food for thought. Interesting analysis.