i like u fancy words anime guy

@sbthesage2100

8 ай бұрын

Nah peak comment right here lmao

@bofa3358

5 ай бұрын

​@@sbthesage2100fr

@TashaneYoung-cl3vb

2 ай бұрын

​@@sbthesage2100 is anime luffy continental levels

@TashaneYoung-cl3vb

2 ай бұрын

With is gear 5

@Gojo33259

Ай бұрын

​@@TashaneYoung-cl3vb multi-continent continent, mftl ranges

Even if Naruto destroy Luffy he still will not be able to avoid Luffy making him part of his crew 😭

@Basilisdd

9 ай бұрын

🗿🗿🗿

@darkestasian6921

9 ай бұрын

True, they friends fr fr

@Jakedasnake0426

9 ай бұрын

They would be besties fr

@Jakedasnake0426

9 ай бұрын

@@darkestasian6921even irl they creators are friends

@Dilllonm

9 ай бұрын

@@darkestasian6921 just wait until naruto finds out how those weak towns are treated by Kaido lol Naruto gonna rage

"Naruto is universal+" Alright man im gone

@gachaelijah0451

9 ай бұрын

Luffy would win because of the drawbacks of baryon mode and luffy has the powers of imagination and he can redirect fireballs with the ground and all naruto can do is the rasengan

@OhiosGrimReaper

9 ай бұрын

Naruto doesn't need bm to beat luffy but naruto isn't uni hes at least star lvl and solar system lvl at best he still shits on luffy in base🤷‍♂️

@CelestQB

9 ай бұрын

youre so slow lol. His AP is Uni+ but that i disagree. Id say its solar system lvl. Either way Naruto slams

@cjmatrix7366

9 ай бұрын

Yeah still I can't believe Naruto is universal but with comparing Momoshiki feats (Creating parallel dimensions, absorbing energy from parallel universe,destroying multiple stars etc ) Yeah Baryon mod is way stronger so he may universal

@cheeseburgermayhem9726

9 ай бұрын

@@gachaelijah0451 Luffy wouldn't make it past sasuke.

As a casual anime watcher all I hear is “🤓”

@eugenee1097

9 ай бұрын

Why you watching the video then 🤡

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

Pinned lmaooo

@CallMeChopa

9 ай бұрын

I watched the video knowing he would say Naruto would win

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

@@CallMeChopa I had a feeling he would say that when things started getting ridiculous.

@doctordoom7827

9 ай бұрын

@sbthesage2100 ​ bro sadly, you have a bad habit of pinning facts.

Sengoku and admirals- “whitebeard can destroy the world” apparently not a feat Obito and black zetsu- “its a time space” valid

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

At least I’m not the only one that realized he shot down a lot of claims from OP but hyped up Naruto characters.

@kingnyc_1563

9 ай бұрын

@@Dredey04 dawg he even downplayed actual anime/manga feats in op and used the databook for naruto….

@GTS-dh9wj

9 ай бұрын

We see feats of it that’s why Kaguya was literally performing feats of reality warping and changing dimensions through time & space

@kingnyc_1563

9 ай бұрын

@@GTS-dh9wj traveling through dimensions doesn’t mean she can create or destroy them. She has never shown the ability to do that and remember shes a villain so thats like her goal. Whitebeard has no means to destroying the world but shown a feat of shifting tectonic plates in the earth to create shockwaves that traveled back all the way to the east blue, Yet that isnt a feat in his eyes.

@christopherlake9667

9 ай бұрын

​@@kingnyc_1563you forget the important things that both one piece and naruto share - why would naruto or whitebeard would destroy a planet that they lived on without planning to go to another planet lol. Why would fleet admiral who is from whitebeard era just straight up lied to the navy lol ? I mean the guy have cold sweat as well when he said it.

"with naruto being universal+" oh boy...

@kingnyc_1563

9 ай бұрын

hes not 😂😂

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

Reasons why I hate power scaling:

@shineindarkplayz9620

9 ай бұрын

You gonna debate him or are you just gonna talk?

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

@@shineindarkplayz9620 Debating in comments are dumb I’m ngl.

@Dayz671

9 ай бұрын

​@@kingnyc_1563If you want to high ball hik

Had me in the first half ngl, until you said naruto was universal+. Good one

@chibk

9 ай бұрын

fr 💀💀💀💀

@christopherlake9667

9 ай бұрын

​@@chibksince when naruto is universal I mean planetary but uni lol 😂😂😂that crazy

@arcadejester8543

9 ай бұрын

He wanked Naruto off and downplayed luffy very heavily.

@8trigramzz

9 ай бұрын

forreal

@chibk

9 ай бұрын

@@christopherlake9667 bro loves naruto a little too much 😂😂😂

So we can scale everyone to kaguya jutsu but not everyone to whitebeards capability to destroy a star size planet ok guy😭

@SAINTxSZN

9 ай бұрын

Whitebeard can't destroy a planet in 1 shot he would have to quake the planet for like 30 minutes to destroy it. And even then I doubt he would be able to. If whitebeard could destroy a planet he would have won at marineford.

@zayzillions7319

9 ай бұрын

@@SAINTxSZNthe one piece world is larger than Naruto’s so you would have to upscale which would make it possible for him to destroy a planet the same size as a regular one

@dantheman5052

9 ай бұрын

@@SAINTxSZN even if it’s 30 mins that’s still destroying a planet many times larger n why would he destroy marines if his family there? N that’s the case if naruto even planet buster why haven’t he busted planets to be beat other characters u see how u sound

@whatthefoxplays8462

9 ай бұрын

​@@dantheman5052Naruto scales to momoshiki who can destroy planets and seen many times eating charka fruits

@_Tugz

9 ай бұрын

It only said that he was to shake the soil.

In egghead kuma sends a light beam at bonny and Luffy makes it to her and escapes the explosion so he passed the light beam after it was shot

@akadenanderson3283

9 ай бұрын

This man just cherry picking stuff from one piece without context. And he's using what old narutotard scalers used to back naruto.

@mrstrangeworld5977

9 ай бұрын

​@@akadenanderson3283yh who sounds bias definitely not u lol

@jaryncoleman208

9 ай бұрын

Dat doesnt change his speed evaluation, all of that was used whihc gave luffy his rating.

@akadenanderson3283

9 ай бұрын

@@mrstrangeworld5977what did I say to be bias? that doesn't even make sense narutotard. The man barely did any proper research on one piece and misinterpreting the context in one piece.

@jordanhatt6824

9 ай бұрын

​@@jaryncoleman208 I mean most of that was super downplayed but was mentioned.

Lets be honest if there was an actual fight it wouldn't be a one shot on either side, that isn't how fights in anime work.This is what happens when you apply real world logic and science to fiction everything gets all fucked up. Both series breaks real world logic yet when people argue who will win a fight they use real world logic. For a example a character will survive a nuclear explosion yet be on the verge of dearh from a stab wound. Great video but wildly inconsistent.

@RohanBHOWMICK2007

9 ай бұрын

Yes also luffys gear 5 power difies logic literally so it's obvious who wins

@UNKNOWN-xf9nk

9 ай бұрын

Not really Naruto is shown to be able to one shot characters like toneri who luffy is no where near + your example was not really good

@RohanBHOWMICK2007

9 ай бұрын

@@UNKNOWN-xf9nk Naruto is weak even kizaru beats hin

@whatthefoxplays8462

9 ай бұрын

​@@RohanBHOWMICK2007nope kizaru ain't even damaging Naruto

@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy

9 ай бұрын

Of course it would be a oneshot. Naruto characters are cosmic now. Luffy hasnt gotten that high and if he has, its only planetary at most since if the OP world really is as big as ppI say then i can see why hes possibIy planetary but thats it. Even tentaiIs in its first form was planetary. Kaguya made six spacetimes. The powercIiff of EOS Naruto is too great.

This is why i dont use data book info in feats cause it gets messy, most of those feats aren’t shown in naruto/boruto only referred too( similar too whitebeard destroying the world quote) and you downplayed alot of one piece feats. Not once did you use kizaru in speed feats when hes made out of light. Even when you brought up whitebeard you used his feats from when he was old and dying and never calculated it to his prime. And if naruto durability is scaled to moon level then how is he able to take attacks from luffy who scales higher than that?

@theblackclown2020

9 ай бұрын

Naruto at this point in the series is far beyond moon level remember naruto fought toneri when he was 18-20 naruto in boruto is in his mid to late 40s and naruto as a 17 year with freshly awaken 6psm was able react to lightspeed attacks also luffy has never been anywhere close to moon level

@kingnyc_1563

9 ай бұрын

@@theblackclown2020 im going based off what was said in the video

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

I think it’s fine to use data book information, just don’t start creating a web of cross references and end up with a far bigger answer. (Also when and where was the Raikage shown to be FTL cause last I checked he was lightning speed without Onoki’s lightening Jutsu)

@kingnyc_1563

9 ай бұрын

@@Dredey04 i 100% agree and finally someone that don’t give speed amps to the 3rd raikage

@kingnyc_1563

9 ай бұрын

@@Dredey04 you see the problem for me with the databook is that not all of it is canon since its not used in the manga/anime. Like how ostutsuki is said to be able to destroy planets in the databook but all they do is absorb all life from a planet which are two different things. So i go based off whats canon and shown.

Anyone who thinks naruto is universal has lost all credibility

@theossification3749

9 ай бұрын

💀🤣

@aushynebell2238

Ай бұрын

Stuck in the old ages can’t handle the power creep ?

@dandanyellow

Ай бұрын

hest not, however boruto is very close to it

Bro dismisses all one piece feats but openly accepts all of narutos make sure to zip up his pants when your done

@morijin314

9 ай бұрын

fr

@Kingromulus88

9 ай бұрын

Tha fucking part.. I watched this thinking it was gonna be a fair comparison but realized this was a Naruto dick ride.. ima acknowledge all the feats from Naruto but downplay the shit out of one piece feats... let's be real there are characters that have absolutely no devil fruit and are still folding high threat enemies.. ussop (love and hate em lol) was standing toe to toe against luffy, zoro on brink of death deflects strong combo attack from big mom and kaido....) like what are we talking about?? I have never see a Naruto (expect might guy and rock) physically be stronger then even a low ass op character.. I got love fr both and I know it won't be a one shot win over op but real talk let's talk facts.. no Naruto character has toon force power... like luffy takes full on spiked bulga attack and this fool Just molds to kaidos bullga like fucking willie coyote takes getting blown to ash from a bum ass acme rocket just to hold a sign up saying something stupid... lol like u not beating too force power....

Naruto: Rasen-shuriken! Luffy: Right back at you buddy. *Literally bounces it back with the ground*

@eastsaintlouis618

9 ай бұрын

That weak ass blast kaido did was trash so that's y he easily counter it an not with that small weak ass mud wall he did

@imbouy6996

9 ай бұрын

@@eastsaintlouis618 huh kaidos weak???/ bro stfu he could bounce anything back with even mud remember HE has toon force reality warping

@eastsaintlouis618

9 ай бұрын

@@imbouy6996 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ is that a limit fallacy or what? Anything ? But when that does that negate effects??? Since we talking right🤣🤣🤣🤣 an yes kaido is trash an that mud wall

@eastsaintlouis618

9 ай бұрын

@@imbouy6996 where u go I thought we was having a good convo😂

@whatthefoxplays8462

9 ай бұрын

​@@imbouy6996low reality warping he was literally struggling to repel kaido blast meaning he needs similar AP

The only reason top tiers are able to destroy planets and stars is because of energy attacks (rasengan, etc) - I’d like to see them try with physical attacks. Physically the One Piece verse is one of the strongest.

@youngfish1370

9 ай бұрын

With physical attacks Naruto would still be stronger. As a base Naruto 1 tapped Toneri. The same Toneri stated to be stronger than Kaguya who was planetary and star feats. Which Toneri would have the same durability as his Ap. With Sasuke being stated to be stronger than that Naruto at the time. High tiers in Naruto are still physically stronger

@MrMegaSuperDuperMe

9 ай бұрын

I mean, does it really matter? Sure, Luffy might punch harder than Naruto, but there really aren't any rules in a fight. Even Luffy understands that, as he never complained when his opponents fought unfairly. So if Naruto wants to use Rasengans, then he should be allowed to use Rasengans. And Haki can be used the same way anyway. The characters use Haki to augment their attacks. So without Haki, Luffy wouldn't be blowing up islands or clashing with Emperors. It's just that most fighters in OP use their energy (aka Haki) for short range attacks by coating their fists or weapons with it. It's only recently that Haki has been used for longer range, like for the Divine Departure or the Galaxy Impact.

@WarTurtle-tv3gh

9 ай бұрын

@@youngfish1370 toneri was nowhere close to being stronger than Kaguya. If anything he was closer to Rinnegan Obito level or Juubito level.

@z.e.d4037

9 ай бұрын

​@WarTurtle-tv3gh Why? You literally can't give a reason for this, Toneri is stated to be the strongest enemy Naruto has fought in the Last that includes Kaguya and Teen Sasuke who both massively surpass juubito.

@WarTurtle-tv3gh

9 ай бұрын

@@z.e.d4037 simple. Madara: took six path sage mode Naruto, six path sage mode Sasuke, the edo hokage, and 8 gates Gai on and won. Kaguya: took six paths sage mode Naruto, six paths sage mode Sasuke, six paths boosted Obito, Kakashi, and Sakura just to seal. Toneri: took KCM Naruto to beat after he lost his six paths power

This guy literally shot down tons of feats stated by the characters from One Piece, such as Sengoku stating Whitebeard can destroy the world and literally accepted the feats from Naruto Characters, Obito saying Time Space is valid somehow while Sengoku statement isn't💀 my guy at least be fair

@kaysarilyas4430

8 ай бұрын

It’s cause we see them perform moves that are time space manipulation like for expanse kagyua can warp to dimension and Aida omnipotence which she literally rewrote reality

@ZhaneDFrost

3 ай бұрын

and he claimed other youtubers downplaying the other characters while he himself does it as well. Great way to be a dick by throwing shades at other powerscaler while being hypocrite as well. 2 in 1.

@muhanadelhalangi

3 ай бұрын

Are you autistic? Do u believe whitebeard can one shot the planet?

@anzai5552

2 ай бұрын

Lol if sengoku watch naruto or sasuke im sure he would say the same for them, whitebeard destroy the world is just hyperbole just like hagoromo said madara would destroy the world

One easy argument for luffy being light speed at timeskip is simply the fact that Rayleigh(his teacher)was able to keep up with kizaru who has a base speed of light speed(being made of light)and it wouldn’t be much of a stretch to scales luffy to Rayleighh

@jeremiahwilson700

9 ай бұрын

Also one thing I noticed Everytime you scale one piece is not taking into account that mathematically speaking the one piece earth is 84% the size of our sun while the Naruto earth is only 4 times bigger than us and it would take more than 330,000 Earths to match the mass of the Sun, and it would take 1.3 million Earths to fill the Sun's volume. So saying all of this have you actually accounted for the size Scale of there earths

@monarchs_mania

9 ай бұрын

Luffy scales no where near Rayleigh in pre time skip ☠️☠️

@WarTurtle-tv3gh

9 ай бұрын

@@jeremiahwilson700 the world in One Piece is about 2.7 times the size of Earth

@sonicwithglasses131

9 ай бұрын

Luffy scales to Rayleigh ?????? 💀💀💀💀

@WarTurtle-tv3gh

9 ай бұрын

@@sonicwithglasses131 not even close. To get an idea of the difference between Luffy and Rayleigh, watch Douglas Bullet vs the Supernova. No, it’s not canon, but it’s enough to get an idea

Well, it's not just Sengoku that hypes up Whitebeard's power. Vice Admiral Tsuru also claimed that even if she were to escape to the other side of the planet, she still wouldn't be safe from Whitebeard's power.

@whatthefoxplays8462

9 ай бұрын

That'll only be multi Continental

@kingnyc_1563

9 ай бұрын

It was also stated that the tremor from him splitting the sea was felt all the way in the east blue

@eonragnarock2366

9 ай бұрын

​@whatthefoxplays8462 his fruit power while holding back, was able to be felt across the entire world

@kwebvin9939

9 ай бұрын

@@whatthefoxplays8462 I think I heard somewhere the Planet is the size of the Sun?

@whatthefoxplays8462

9 ай бұрын

@@eonragnarock2366 and when was that exactly

Take no offense but I’ve seen you be extremely biased towards naruto recently especially in speed because kcm1 is for a fact not mftl+ as his best feat was blitzing the raikage who is closer to relativistic than light but even if you were to wank him to light speed perception blitzing someone light speed would put you only at 6.86 x faster than the person making naruto 6.86x faster than light and also by the way luffy power clips himself multiple times throughout the series making every light speed feat he had earlier multiplied by hundreds of fold and gear 4th is definitely a speed multiplier as snake man was specifically designed for speed and you can’t just tossed that out the window since we can’t calculate the speed and can only estimate doesn’t mean you can just ignore that snake man is at least a few x speed amplifier and also doflamingo in dressrosa awakened his devil fruit so that’s why he was pressing gear 4th so hard not because he had “magically gained speed” and also kaguya’s dimension shouldn’t scale to universal since there isn’t consistent scaling to show that her dimension was the size of a universe and if you say it is then you’re just wanking it’s like saying if you created a small pocket of your own realm like for example planetary size it would be universal which isn’t the case

@gotchatrev

9 ай бұрын

let bro cook

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

He cooked pretty well ngl. This the first time I’ve seen a scaler say KCM1 is faster than light tho. Usually they say Raikage is lightning speed and would scale off that for at least KCM1’s speed.

@cjmatrix7366

9 ай бұрын

Bro Luffy has reaction FTL speed not traveling in FTL. Naruto is traveling FTL also they calculated Kcm Naruto speed according to pixel calculation...

@egg3282

9 ай бұрын

@@cjmatrix7366 pixel calculation is a pretty accurate way too determine speed but like you legitimately cannot wank naruto too 113x faster than light in kcm1 when all he did was perception blitz a relativistic-light speed raikage

@egg3282

9 ай бұрын

@@Dredey04 I was being generous as the creator of video was arguing against the idea of raikage not being like speed

"naruto is universal+" 💀💀💀

@maksimklimok4005

3 ай бұрын

his closer to solar system or small galaxy

small nitpick is that Luffy should already scale to ftl in whole cake island as base Katakuri no diffs Ichiji who has ftl feats and future sight only works if you have somewhat comparable to the other and katakuri outright states that Luffy isn't beneath him and they fight equally in base and near equally when Luffy uses g4 and katakuri starts using his awakening

@geordansinclair4603

9 ай бұрын

I agree

@sterlingjones8834

9 ай бұрын

He luffy said he 90 times faster than light so he is but Naruto being faster than sasukes perception is just bunkers 🎉he bisquick

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

Ichiji outrunning his sparks is not a light speed feat lmao there’s no proof the sparks are light speed and they’re literally called sparks also what do you mean by you have to be somewhat comparable to someone for future sight to work where is this ever stated and why is this relevant to kat never blitzing Luffy also awakening isint a speed amp

@z1ngerz

9 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 the sparks are shown to be really similar to light in Queen vs Sanji, they were both made using linage factors which Judge has used to recreate other logia abilities and vegepunk and Judge worked closely together in the past. Niji also has light speed statements Just using observation haki is not enough to avoid all attacks movement is still required, Kaido still gets hit even after he starts using future sight. Although awakening is never outright stated to be a speed boost it did allow katakuri to be comparable to snakeman even though they could fight base vs base moments before The fact that you also threw away any pre ts rel feat is also weird as there are several feats of straw hats dodging light, without observation haki. So if they had light speed reaction to low ftl then with haki and froth it is a lot higher

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

@@z1ngerz where are you getting ichijis lasers are made from kizarus lineage factor just because he worked with Vega punk there’s literally 0 evidence for this and that’s just a hasty generalization

Limiting Baryon Mode Naruto to KCM 1 Speed is a *MASSIVE* low-ball. Also, Naruto’s AP should equal his Durability given how KCM and RSM works. Naruto tanking attacks from Fused Momoshiki and Isshiki is also *MASSIVELY* above and superior Toneri’s Golden Wheel of Reincarnation (GWR)! Even Base Momoshiki’s Bijuudama is far above the GWR AP. Also, Kaguya absorbed the chakra of the shinobi alliance *NOT* because it was a necessary power amp but because she *FELT* entitled to the chakra as Mother of All Chakra. Even KCM2 Naruto has enough chakra to surpass the shinobi alliance by 4x Kakashi chakra reserves pre Sage Mode! The alliance were fodder food for Kaguya’s chakra greed. Even 300 fodder ninja had even Chakra to blow up the Moon. So, Toneri feat with GWR was very casual yet SKCM 2 Naruto one-shotted him also casually!

@flameze5019

9 ай бұрын

Luffy is still faster and can easily dodge every attack until the transformation wears down and the he claps base naruto easily

@kazethegoat8247

9 ай бұрын

@@flameze5019he don’t need to do that he has dura neg so his higher speed alone is what gives him the win, even without toon force

@flameze5019

9 ай бұрын

@@kazethegoat8247 wait true actually

@Nubin2000

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@flameze5019Naruto one-shots and blitz Luffy and can solo the One Piece verse. Scaling wise even KCM1 Naruto is over 72 times faster than Lightspeed. Even Adult Naruto dodge photon beams in Base form like Luffy but *WITHOUT* Precognition unlike Luffy. KCM 2 is bare minimum 20 times stronger than KCM 1 and SKCM 2 is 20 times faster than KCM 2 and RSM 1 is easily 100 times faster than SKCM 2. Along RSM 2 being at least 20 times more powerful than RSM 1. Baryon Mode is based on nuclear fusion and could have a million or billions times amp. The OP verse doesn’t stand a chance.

@goku-wc8mw

9 ай бұрын

​@@Nubin2000😂😂😂 luffy solo

One shot?😂😂😂😂 Luffy will be laughing at that punch.

@zrainren6373

9 ай бұрын

Bro can you even power scale any thing

@kayox967

9 ай бұрын

​@@zrainren6373do you even know how to power scale?😂

@eastsaintlouis618

9 ай бұрын

Impossible. Luffy still 1-5 against kaido 🤣🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

@Alpha1twin

9 ай бұрын

@@eastsaintlouis618 no way u sayin that lmao🤡🤡gear 5 luffy was straight up playin wi him😹😹😭

@dekudkm546

9 ай бұрын

do u know what AP is?

Kaido calling Big Mom pathetic doesn't mean much. Big Mom also insulted Kaido too that is their relationship. It is like seeing Zoro/Sanji or King/Queen calling each other weak then saying there is a huge power gap between the two. Also, the yonkos are narratively implied to be the same power level. Shanks fought and tied with Kaido before coming to Marineford. This is the same Shanks that clashed with whitebeard. They really implied that they were on the same level.

Brain hurt to much thinking. Just put them in an food eating contest

@maksimklimok4005

3 ай бұрын

luffy would definitely win that one lol

@josephtung5280

2 ай бұрын

way too easy tbh@@maksimklimok4005

So this means that Baryon Mode Naruto is now a Dragon Ball Z/Super level character?

@Skilla_fr

9 ай бұрын

No, not at all. It just means his ap is rather universal

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

People drawing the line at DBZ power scaling to Naruto characters 😬

@michaelrodney7898

9 ай бұрын

nah

@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy

9 ай бұрын

Yes both Naruto and ichigo soIo DBZ. Its DBS thats the probIem. DBZ is only galaxy level and even if they were universal. Naruto and ichigo are low multiversal.

@antassingh2991

9 ай бұрын

Dbs Goku scales to low complex multiversal and he isn't even a top tier in his verse since that would be the angels, grand priest and Zeno. Universal characters are nothing to them at this point

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t being able to dodge a light speed attack even with precognition still mean you can move faster or at least equal to light. Even if you know an attack is coming you still need to move your body fast enough to get out of the way. If you told someone you were going to shoot them in 5 seconds and that they needed to dodge, it would still be impossible for them to dodge the bullet.

@20Quarters

8 ай бұрын

Exactly. This guy is riding Naruto hard

@D1MSUM5

8 ай бұрын

Ikr, Kaido even stated something about "future sight is useless if you can move faster than it." Also this guy debunking WB's planetary ap (I agree because it's mainly hax) but gave Bajrang Gun dward star ap 💀💀

@benimaru4458

7 ай бұрын

Yeah but that’s why he said reaction speed. His reaction speed clearly surpasses light speed, however since Naruto can move faster than light speed it gives him the edge. Ygm?

@coatrak1357

6 ай бұрын

Not exactly. That depends how far into the future you can see

@20Quarters

6 ай бұрын

@@coatrak1357 dog that still requires you to move at light speed to be able to get out of the way

Great video however the kaguya Shinobi alliance statement is irrelevant as she has so much chakra that both Naruto and Sasuke are shocked she could even exist considering a much weaker Naruto was easily able to power the whole alliance their chakra would be too small to fill her up enough to launch techniques that most likely take a decent amount of her chakra

@Nubin2000

9 ай бұрын

Agreed, Kaguya absorbed the chakra of the shinobi alliance *NOT* because it was a necessary power amp but because she *FELT* entitled to the chakra as Mother of All Chakra. Even KCM2 Naruto has enough chakra to surpass the shinobi alliance by 4x Kakashi chakra reserves pre Sage Mode! The alliance were fodder food for Kaguya’s chakra greed.

@jocoolshow

9 ай бұрын

It was stated that the chakra she absorbed made her exponentially stronger

@hoifzf

9 ай бұрын

@@jocoolshow fodder made her stronger my guy the strongest characters with the most chakra were right in front of her how did people who can barely make a dent in kcm2 Naruto's reserves when powering them up do that make it make sense

you really did water down and forget alot of one piece feats

@cjmatrix7366

9 ай бұрын

There are no other one piece feats bigger than Shaking the marineford island

@miguek3908

9 ай бұрын

@@cjmatrix7366😂

@miguek3908

9 ай бұрын

Naruto by a single punch split the moon, he is X1000 faster than light, one punch and goodbye one piece 😭

@firefistace5230

9 ай бұрын

@@miguek3908100 pre timeskip luffy past 100x fighting world and hordy jones multiplier

luffy does blitz doflamingo though, despite it not being stated doflamingo was straight up just getting dominated by luffy in that state while before they were both even with doflamingo having a slight edge. also how tf is luffy dodging litteral light lazers which were based off of the light light fruit not a light speed feat?

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

Cause the light explodes meaning it’s not actually light 🤓 (Joking, don’t murder me. Idk why people even powerscale to ridiculous measures like saying “Universal” when they can’t ACTUALLY destroy a universe)

@WarTurtle-tv3gh

9 ай бұрын

Because it’s directly stated to be based on the strength of Kizaru’s lasers and not his speed.

@avoidgel1685

9 ай бұрын

@@WarTurtle-tv3ghthere was parallelism that says other wise. Pre time skip when luffy was blitzed by kizaru, kizaru said “too slow”. But post time skip when lufffy dodged beams that were stated to be kizarus beams in the same island, guess what luffy said? He said “too slow”

@jhondoe1116

9 ай бұрын

@@WarTurtle-tv3gh it just says it's based on kizaru's lazers full stop, none of this speed based or stength based bullshit. also it's a fucking light lazer, it would still be light speed.

@WarTurtle-tv3gh

9 ай бұрын

@@jhondoe1116 that’s not how it works in One Piece. Just because something is glowing doesn’t mean it’s light speed. If it was, then Luffy would have been ftl during his fight with Foxy because Foxy’s slow beam is made of photons

great video

I can already see how this fight going to happen and it gonna be crazy

Bruh, bro just got everything wrong💀

@dandanyellow

Ай бұрын

*shows literal calculations and infos pulled out of data books* yeah bro whatever makes you sleep better at night

Yo Sage did you change your opinion on the WB statement? Before you used it in videos to scale WB and characters that scale to WB but now you said its invalid

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

Yes I changed my opinion

@SOSA-300

9 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 Valid bro, fw your vids

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100What made you change your mind about it?

It’s important to remember that Kaguya’s domain expansion had planets and stars in them. It’s also important to remember that she is one of the weakest of her kind.

1. Why would the Fleet Admiral, who fought Whitebeard in his prime, make such insane assumptions that their enemy could destroy the world, potentially demotivating his own forces? 2. How can you compare a Truth-Seeking Orb, which condenses every single chakra nature into a solid object, to a Rasengan, which is purely chakra concentrated into a spherical shape? 3. Assuming Momoshiki's Rasengan is universal+, wouldn't that imply Boruto's Rasengan is also universal+? If that's the case, why hasn't the universe undergone any changes? If two energy blasts of universal level clash, the impact alone should have destroyed the galaxy. It's weird that not only was there no destruction, but Boruto, a 13-year-old, barely suffered any harm. Surviving a universal-level energy clash without complete obliteration seems implausible for someone of his age.

@JAH______

9 ай бұрын

this guy low balled the shit out of one piece i realised this guy was dick riding the moment he said the yonko dont scale to each other or are relative and said whitebeard isnt star lvl people can litertally feel attacks aroudn the fucking world

@danielgedeon6454

9 ай бұрын

For the second arguments, Kaguya used her chakra to make the ETSO so she scales to it,also Momoshikis raszngan scales above Kaguya entierly it was also stated in the Light novels that Momoshikis was absorbing chakra from beyond his parallel dimension he made.. 3. Yes it would apply to boruto bc first of all thats base Narutos raszngan not borutos so it applies to Narutos scaling,in the Light novels it was stated that Naruto boruto finish Momoshiki on purpose so he can learn what the life of a shinobi is, your argument is stupid, if something is universal+ why would it have some changes to it ? Also the rasengan was red and he absorbed it from beyond his parallel dimension he made, also theres someone called damage contrôl which exists in alot of shows, and Naruto is an AP based Séries so they will not destroy anything, Kishimoto back in 2016, said that the Naruto and sasuke were becoming too powerful so he had lower the battle damage on purpose..

@speeddevil4040

9 ай бұрын

@@danielgedeon6454 I hate the power scaling communities fixation on pocket dimensions. The idea if someone has the ability to create an empty pocket dimension they are universal is some of the stupidest shit in the world to me. It’s like with Yami from black clover. People say he’s universal because of his equinox. My brother in Christ he can’t destroy an actual dimension he can cut through or dispel a fabricated one. Your telling me that Yami could just delete the black clover universe?

@wolvesbane1748

9 ай бұрын

​@@danielgedeon6454pls tell me how a pocket dimension is anywhere near universal scaling?? Are you crazy? When tf did that ever become a comparable thing? It's a pocket dimension..what's so impressive about that that makes u assume the character is now universal..that makes absolutely no sense...by your logic blueno who is able to create dimensions using his door door ability is therefore a universal character ...how do u not see how ridiculous that sounds

@adriansproho5379

8 ай бұрын

​@@speeddevil4040kaguya actually has stars in her dimension and she was about to destroy it yami can cut tru pocket dimensions that's not the same

Anothe great vid Sage, definitely subbing! And btw where did you get the calcs for kcm1 being 100+ speed of light?

@thekingofbeast5241

9 ай бұрын

His ass lol

@XxcHuCkEXx069

9 ай бұрын

@@thekingofbeast5241 facts 😂😂

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

@@thekingofbeast5241it’s in the description you goon

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

@@XxcHuCkEXx069in the description mr fax lol shut your mouth

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

Description my boy

There's a few problems though like Fifth Gear also includes toon force. Also if Luffy defeats Admiral Kizaru, he could be argue to be both faster in overall movements as well as reflexes than Naruto. Not to mention, Haki held many advantages as proven in Sanji vs Rock Lee episode. This is obviously going to be an even crazier fight. Luffy constantly defeated stronger villains in his series. Sure some of them he loss to a few times. The point is this guy doesn't know when to give up. His devil fruit was described by the Five Elders to be the most ridiculous power in the world. This by itself gives Luffy many advantages too. Naruto may scale higher in stats but Fifth Gear with his mastery of Haki and greater willpower ultimate win him this fight.

@zurrexGD

8 ай бұрын

Toon force is just an excuse to try to make Luffy sound stronger, giving him “toon force” does not scale him anywhere as it is only a fan made label made to explain cartoon characters abilities, therefore it’s irrelevant

@Theflavordoc516

8 ай бұрын

Not a Naruto fanboy trying to tell me about one piece

@raleekcooper9188

8 ай бұрын

Bro mad because luffy gets destroyed by Naruto

@Infinitefuture6

8 ай бұрын

@@raleekcooper9188naruto gets smacked by luffy

@LocallightskinnnJ

8 ай бұрын

@@Infinitefuture6what about the 20 min long video explaining why Naruto would beat tf outta luffy in one shot ?

good vid

Wb was holding back a lot in marine ford but still had effects around the world like causing luffy ship from impel down to go into the air and causing tsunami alerts in sabody

@christopherlake9667

9 ай бұрын

Facts

@sterlingjones8834

9 ай бұрын

Like any other earthquake doesn’t make him planetary

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

This dosent make WB planetary

@christopherlake9667

9 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 it does lol it is literally stated in manga and anime.

@atari_hmb

9 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 It's literally stated in the novel, anime, manga, and databook fam lol. Statements are there for supporting evidence as this isn't dragonball. Kinshiki can split worlds too...and we believe him despite no one pulling a legend planetary feat in naruto at the time we heard about Toneri and such.

Dude u r so biased. U spent the entire video sayin nah Luffy feat fake but took all of narutos feats at face value. Seriously?

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

I only spent so much time on the Luffy speed debunk bc people use the feats I talked about in the video to scale Luffy incorrectly I have serval videos where one piece characters win just have a problem with incorrect scaling also debunking white beard being planetary is irrelevant since I still believe Luffy is dwarf star level

@doctordoom7827

9 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 Luffy mids diffs that fodder. move on ffs.

@johnartborbon1062

28 күн бұрын

truth hurts bro 🤣

i mean even Vice Admiral Tsuru said you cant escape whitebeards power even if you across the other side of the world, something similar to sengoku

One thing i'd like to note is how you go on to debunk whitebeard being planetary but then agree with luffys bajrang being calced at star lvl which kaido clashed with for a bit before getting overpowered. I also think people like law clashing with now a stronger Blackbeard show how even they could be planetsry lvls, Destroying the one piece planet must be a much more difficult feat than a normal planet as well but I don't think that's useful to upscale until we get confirmation

@false_prophets4642

9 ай бұрын

Wtf nothing in op in star lvl 🤣🤣🤣

@xensley

9 ай бұрын

@@false_prophets4642 Blackbeards black holes have infinite power, haki will over power that fs, and bajrang gun can be calced to that bc of its mass and speed, as well as with consideration that haki is focused and whitebeard destroying world is solely bc of his devil fruit and ppl can overpower that being over that planetary level since whitebeard has been shown to finely control his shockwaves to the point of putting his full strength into his blade which is used to clash

@musahyles8443

9 ай бұрын

@@false_prophets4642 yes it is bajrang gun is star level

@false_prophets4642

9 ай бұрын

@@musahyles8443 no tf its not 💀🤣🤣

@jasongray4263

9 ай бұрын

@@musahyles8443no it’s not, a star is like the sun, the sun can fit 1,000,000 earths inside of it, at most it is mid continental not star level

Good one

bro lowballs luffy so hard and then scales naruto to universal+

@karimisaac5413

9 ай бұрын

Universal+ AP (Attack potency) not DC (Destructive Capacity) it’s totally different.

@morijin314

9 ай бұрын

we seen naruto get hurt by swords and shurikens in kcm luffy would be able to touch him and have a good fight@@karimisaac5413

@brandonholder2483

25 күн бұрын

​@@karimisaac5413 He isn't universal in either.

@karimisaac5413

12 күн бұрын

@brandonholder2483 I didn’t say he was, just corrected him

What's crazy is that if you take feats like Sanji's speed and ability and compare it to 8 Gates Guy for instance and how he can run through the air you will find that One Piece characters were already stronger and faster than before time skip. Just that comparison alone means Luffy is way stronger and faster than many would credit him. Not to mention the recoil of rubber making him inconsistently and exponentially faster and powerful depending on the stretch.

@Animeguy180-

7 ай бұрын

Correct

@yanlei6495

Ай бұрын

Naruto is galaxy level and luffy is mountain level

Once I hear faster than light I just check out smh

Enjoyed the video SB THE SAGE! I do have a suggestion of another vs battle in SAITAMA VS YUTA (from one piece red) have been curious how the outcome between the two would be. Thanks in advance!

Not sure if this is really a factor or not, but with both having precognition, and especially with Luffys future sight, since he’s slower so it would be more impactful for him to have, how much can FTL really matter if you’re able to tell what’s going to happen well beforehand. If they’re both even just at relativistic speeds, 3 seconds feels like forever, so seeing that far ahead would negate (most of) the advantage? Would it not? I may be misunderstanding but it seems like that would be impactful and really cut down on atleast one aspect of Naruto’s advantage?

@jaryncoleman208

9 ай бұрын

Ur saying dat as if luffy hasn’t got blitz before

@NicoNicoKneeCaps69

9 ай бұрын

There is no need for any explanation as Naruto has a 10-minute time limit. therefore, this isn't close. Naruto gets demolished

@JAH______

9 ай бұрын

observation haki doesnt help you dodge an attack it just shows an attac k thats going to happen. If and attack is light speed and you have obv haki and dont have light speed reaction time you cant dodge it( kaido speed blitzs luffy when they first fought and luffy has future sight)

@yankieltorres3987

9 ай бұрын

Well naruto moves to fast it wouldn't matter how much gears luffy has

@ghostren_scales

9 ай бұрын

​@@NicoNicoKneeCaps69fax

I'm so glad you actually understand what reaction speed is, I've seen so many people say stupid stuff like base wano luffy is 540x the speed of light lol

So the rasengan is universal now🥶it's even stronger than a gamma ray burst🥶💀

Bruh this guy just low balled one piece to the ground and the extreme highballed naruto and then had the audacity to say its consistent and most sound lmfao

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

I had no idea dwarf star level and 45x FTL were lowballing one piece into the ground

@TheWildCard2k

9 ай бұрын

​@@sbthesage2100brother you spent the entire video downplaying op every time you mentioned naruto you made sure to walk him to oblivion somehow wanking him to universal + the speed scaling you had for luffy doesn't even make sense this was a mad bias video lol

@Ultradude1

9 ай бұрын

​@@sbthesage2100bro you said naruto is universal thats a high ball if I've ever heard one

@josephtung5280

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 the FTL reaction is agreeable but dwarf star is a bit too high, large planet highball at best

All the comments complaining are the one piece goons coping hard at the fact that naruto slams the verse with ease

@reds27

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree one piece is mid and Naruto does slam pretty badly but Naruto universal tho? Would you actually agree with that?

@reddeadclowns

9 ай бұрын

@@reds27 Personally I just agree to piss others but it really depends on if you believe the otsutsukis are as powerful as sb the sage is scaling. I dont agree with star luffy tho I still think hes multi continental and that realistically naruto should be solar if not highballed uni with kaguya momo and isshiki statements

@reds27

9 ай бұрын

@@reddeadclowns oh ok

my only problem with gear 5 is since he can do anything . this will easily ruin the story. if he could do anything . that means that the story doesnt matter and everything in front of his story will be a piece a cake. i have a feeling oda is either gonna change up what he means on "anything" or will make someone that has a direct counter on his ability.

@mrstrangeworld5977

9 ай бұрын

he cant do anything

@Sorbete507

8 ай бұрын

As long as luffy thinks that he has the gomu gomu it won't get stupid

@toprhino4754

8 ай бұрын

I think you forgot there are going to be hard limits because luffy is a dumbass

@coatrak1357

6 ай бұрын

100%. People are too caught up on the hype right now to think on the implications for the story. Myself included when I was reading

Oda and Kishimoto watching their fantasy worlds get scaled based off neutonian dynamics and just thinking to themselves that they like drawing cool/goofy looking badasses that fight is just hilarious

This also means Boruto already solos like 99.999% of the OP verse and will beat Luffy soon too lol

Most of the OP fans don't know how powerful Naruto is because they only watched Naruto/Boruto series they ain't even try to read Manga and Light novels that's why OP fans can't accept Naruto stronger than Luffy ☠️....

@MrSkullkid15

9 ай бұрын

Really backwards giving Naruto is more accepted in the west...

Not once was kizaru used in this vid….

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

The guy made of light who we can scale based off of the other admirals 😞

@morijin314

9 ай бұрын

fr bro glossed over that and went straight to "naruto is unversal+" basically said naruto on par with bog goku

I do like the speed scale though I appreciate you getting a scale for Naruto

Tbh I don’t really care who wins but these videos are pretty entertaining

When you think about it luffy can just turn rasengan or anything else naruto throws into rubber and throw it back at him, right?

@LazyAsian2557

Ай бұрын

No because Luffy himself has to scale similarly to it and because Naruto is way stronger then him it wouldn’t work

@nomustar8711

Ай бұрын

@@LazyAsian2557 since when does it depend on strength?

@LazyAsian2557

Ай бұрын

@@nomustar8711 Luffy struggled to return Kaido’s bolo breath and they were relative to each other now do you think Luffy can throw Goku’s spirit bomb back at him or Ichigo’s gestuga tensho

@nomustar8711

Ай бұрын

@@LazyAsian2557 he is still getting stronger dawg 😭

@LazyAsian2557

Ай бұрын

@@nomustar8711 I know but right now he isn't as strong as Naruto, but at the end of the series Luffy will be as strong or stronger than Naruto.

How is bro universal+ in ap ? How does universal even comes close to Naruto's name 🤦

Bro is talking fax. No misses 👍🔥

We have no clue what the limits of Gear 5 are.

let’s go finally a scaler who knows the difference between reaction speed and combat speed bro i debated plenty of op fans and guess what the first thing they say is they fucking say luffy is 4x ftl because of him dodging kuma’s light beams bro reaction speed does not equal travel speed imma say this for those who don’t know how speed works reaction speed: is how fast you dodge something or react think of gokus mui where he dodges on instinct combat speed: how fast you can fight like when fighters are on par with each other in fighting that’s usually combat speed travel speed: should be self explanatory but it’s how fast you can move like if you could travel at the speed of light or faster is how fast you can travel so now luffy didn’t move that fast he only dodged that fast but this video was perfect for those diehard one piece fans i like one piece but come on don’t compare verse’s because your just biased

Haven't watched the video yet, but all I can say is that Naruto is most likely gonna win.

@GG.Plans_Goat

9 ай бұрын

No no no, Naruto has a time limit, luffy Dosent

@Chaosconcept-sq1op

9 ай бұрын

​@@GG.Plans_GoatLuffy life force will be all but drained at that point.

@wat1530

9 ай бұрын

Besides, Gear 5 spends a lot of energy

@Chaosconcept-sq1op

9 ай бұрын

@@wat1530 thank you for letting me know this I knew there was a downside to that power.

@Dilllonm

9 ай бұрын

@@GG.Plans_Goat he doesnt need baryon

Did this man just say kaguya is universal

Bro if they stumble across each other they will just become friends

Naruto wins 👇

cool video, nice arguments, but as a fan of one piece this is just ☝🤓

In terms of speed there's no doubts that all one piece strong characters are faster than light

Sengoku: “He can destroy the world!” Cap.. now onto Naruto, I can’t wait to ride his meat Black Zetsu: “Its a time space” That’s so valid daddy Zetsu 💀🗿💀🗿💀😭🗿🗿

Understanding why u discredited the light speed feats for luffy but even still I want to bring up the fact that kizaru a person who literally ate the light fruit faced an old Rayleigh which yes it was Rayleigh trying to distract kizaru they still had to fight at light speed feats and it was close quarter combats and old Rayleigh was stronger then a time skipped gear 4 bounce man so my real question is how fast is kizaru and can we use him as a scale or are we just gonna forget about him and be biased to naruto 😒

@binlegit7822

9 ай бұрын

Also whitebeard himself stating that he has the power to destroy the one piece world which was stated to be star level still has fears that shows some capability such when he was able to move tectonic plates during marine ford with like what stage 7 cancer😂.so can u also calculate how big op islands are because if I take an example such as the fact that the sun can hold over 1,300,000 earths (look it up) and if I’m right I think one of the one piece charecters stated that there are over 20 million island so can u please do the numbers for me. Also if u want to use the argument that whitebeards has hax, the fruit is only as strong as the devil fruit user, prime example luffy 😂. And if it was jus hax what do we have to say about the people have taken attacks from the guru guru wouldn’t that mean they planetary durability since even a Akainu back in marineford was able to rank attacks from whitebeard

@cjmatrix7366

9 ай бұрын

@@binlegit7822 If you consider Whitebeard statement was not hyperbole then the statement o about susano "a single strike of the sword have the power to smash all things in the universe , it rival even biju," 👈 so it makes mada universal and because of Baryon mod Naruto is way stronger than mada so it makes him Multiversal+ lol 😂😂... Try to understand what hyperbole statement lol ....

Man just said move out of someone view when you looking at him. Then moving around him to kick him in the face. Isn't a speed blitz but off guard hit??? Even though doffy can keep up with gear fourth he still got bltiz a bit in the fight regardless

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

It isint be literally reacts to the attack so people even know what a speed blitz is lmao it’s getting your reaction and perceptions complete overridden which just doesn’t happen also how does what you’re saying make sense you can’t blitz someone and be relative to them in speed 😂😂😂😂

about whitebeard chances are is that sengokus statement was talking about whitebeards power and not his ap so even if his quakes could take out the entire world from one spot doesnt mean he has the direct fighting power to destroy the world so luffy cant be compared to that statment in any way

we need to stop acting like light speed is such a common thing in one piece. there's so many counter arguments

@FCTOKYOARG

3 ай бұрын

Yes, same in naruto, but for some reason in one piece are controversial, and in naruto are undeniable facts. Same with putting the naruto aliens at levels they really do not have, kaguya HAD an attack that could perturbe time and space, that does not mean kaguya has a time space level, in other words, universal level. Sakura harmed her.... that does not mean sakura is universal level. Also, people all the time forgesr about the fact that OP world has a size of a star... islands here have the size of a continent... so WB in a planet like naruto... that would be destructive

this man is the biggest narutard ive ever seen in my life 😭😭😭

nice vid but uni+ naruto is bs, and u were kinda downplayin luffy but high balling naruto, but he like star to solar system. The reason why kaguya isnt uni+, first off it would be inconsisent within the feats portrait in the manga and anime, and she was destroying the planets in the dimension not the dimension itself, just like how u said that whitebeard would be able to destroy all islands but not the one piece planet itself. So thats why i think uni+ naruto is dumb and a big highball

The problem with this fight is if you are taking personality’s into consideration because it goes like this if they are just going to the win but personality’s would mean they would look at eachother then go get lunch

I feel like if anything Luffy & Naruto would go toe to toe

This power scaling stuff is ridiculous.

Luffy is faster, has better hax, better durability and endurance. So luffy wins. And baryon mode lasts 10 mins. And after 10 mins, naruto becomes very weak. And naruto cant beat luffy in 10 mins

@miguek3908

9 ай бұрын

😂

@miguek3908

9 ай бұрын

Kid Naruto is X1000 faster than light and he have better HAX, you say that Luffy have better durability while Naruto with his AP splitted the moon, AP = Durability, also he have higher endurance 😂

@miguek3908

9 ай бұрын

Naruto baryon mode will beat Luffy under 2 minutes

@miguek3908

9 ай бұрын

He doesn’t even need baryon mode to neg that fodder

@miguek3908

9 ай бұрын

You didn’t even watch Naruto shippuden

Hey SB I just wanted to say I love your videos, there are a couple of anime’s I’ve been watching one of them has been beyblade (metal fight series) I was wondering if you could scale the characters and their beys accurately and compare them to some other versus like my hero or even one piece verse considering the beyblade characters are extremely weird to scale I’m pretty sure some of the characters are planetary or star level confirmed by the manga and anime, trust me we beyblade fans are really underrepresented and trust me if you make a video about them you’ll gain a lot of new fans, you don’t have to but definitely think about it! Thank you!

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

I can commission it for you lol

@jalenduchene6747

9 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 sorry but what does that mean 😭

@sbthesage2100

9 ай бұрын

@@jalenduchene6747 I make the video if you pay for it

you should have watched kol video of strongest attacks in one piece

In my opinion, I think Luffy in Gear 5 beats Naruto. This is because Naruto can only hold that form for so long, while Luffy has shown pretty good mastery over it. In terms of speed, Naruto might have the edge, but in terms of power, or just fighting capabilities in general luffy has the better arsenal. Naruto, isn't like naruto from naruto shippuden, he is much softer now (imp) he wouldn't really use all of the big hitting attacks, like he does it naruto shippuden. Luffy also has really good arament haki, so if naruto were to get a hit in or 2 it wouldn't so as much damage.

@melihceylan8749

9 ай бұрын

i never red so much nonsense in one comment before. bro stop pls naruto stomps luffy in seconds its irrelevant for how long he can hold his bayron mode (which he doesnt even need like bruh) and it doesnt matter how soft he became cz these power scalings are just fucking scalings where you see how strong they are.

@thegoathimselfme

9 ай бұрын

@@melihceylan8749 in that sense luffy still wins because the creator of naruto kishimoto said naruto would lose to a bajrang gun

@melihceylan8749

9 ай бұрын

@@thegoathimselfme where tf did he said that? Tik tok? Damn bro use logic. Naruto survived and countered Planetary attacks bajramg gun or whatever it's called is just a big fist in the size of onigashima damn and you think that Naruto can't handle it? 😂

@_t0kage

8 ай бұрын

Eh gotta go with luffy winning the fight. Didn’t know much about baryon mode but apparently it just gives a huge buff to naruto’s speed, strength and such. I think luffy’s abilities are overlooked as it isn’t just fighting freely, he can turn imagination into reality. He literally pulled goggles out of thin air. So could he just imagine himself with greater strength and speed to counter naruto? This is a quick comment I might elaborate later

@LazyAsian2557

8 ай бұрын

@@_t0kagewhy didn’t bro do this against kaido on the roof top?

W video. Even if Luffy’s stats were closer to Naruto Baryon mode literally drains the other fighters life force but punching them with solar radiation.

@WarTurtle-tv3gh

9 ай бұрын

Baryon Mode’s life drain is because it drains chakra from others on contact. It’s compared to nuclear fusion, but the effects are different, so there’s no solar radiation in his punches

@uriahthegreat5004

9 ай бұрын

@@WarTurtle-tv3gh No to mention the person he was using baryon mode against was already dying and it took soo many punches to win and the hits themselves wasnt even that powerful.

@theossification3749

9 ай бұрын

@@uriahthegreat5004plus baryon mode can’t steal luffys life force because he doesn’t have chakara

@Chris-hb7xp

9 ай бұрын

Ah I didn't know that. @@WarTurtle-tv3gh

@Chris-hb7xp

9 ай бұрын

More Luffy vs. Naruto videos popped up on my youtube, and almost all of them say the life force drain still applies to Luffy. Not for my reasons but yeah. 🤷‍♂

Naruto VS Luffy is by far the *most* bias debate I've seen in anime

quick question so black zetsu stating the truth seeker orb can destroy the time space is valid, but when Sengoku says it its cap and non-valid when we have seen white beard, Imu and black beard cause quakes that were felt on all four seas which is easily star lvl.

He isn't even close to universal, and if you move at even the speed of light, you wouldn't even be able to tell what's going on

@changychangy3665

9 ай бұрын

Flawed argument

@idkwhattonamemyself6511

9 ай бұрын

he is universal because of the expansive truth seeking orb which is a 4th dimensional attack, meaning it can destroy literal dimensions

@LOTM_Peak

9 ай бұрын

Bro's tryna compare the perception of a regular human to that of a super human who fought gods lmao also it's universal AP

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

@@LOTM_PeakTbf by all logic if you’re faster than actual light then you shouldn’t be able to see. Since sight is just light reflected from our eyes. That’s my lil nerd moment, let me have it 🤓

@Minorityhunter1

9 ай бұрын

@@idkwhattonamemyself6511 that dosent make him universal :/ its not a fourth dimensional attack, it has a high Ap but its not destroying anything bigger then a country

I personally wouldn’t put Naruto at universal lvl AP but rather solar system lvl+ but either way he absolutely dominates also I don’t know why OP fans get so triggered when we say Naruto wins for now because Luffy could be multi-versal lvl by the end of the series for all we know

@OhiosGrimReaper

9 ай бұрын

EXACTLY he definitely isn't uni but he can EASILY be scaled to solar system lvl

@parishilpi

9 ай бұрын

yeah if luffy survives till adult hood he could high diff baryon mode

@cheeseburgermayhem9726

9 ай бұрын

oda has said multiple times that this is luffys peak, he isn't getting stronger than g5.

@adrianex5007

9 ай бұрын

​@@cheeseburgermayhem9726u mean Eiichiro Oda

@cheeseburgermayhem9726

9 ай бұрын

@@adrianex5007 lmfao i just woke up my bad

Can you do Guts and Yoriichi next?

the shadow clone juitsu also divides the users chacra level depending on how many clones

The strongest pirate was a title💀its been said multiple times that kaido would’ve turned the tides to the war if he arrived and it was concluded that in a 1v1 kaido would surely dominate. It feels like you haven’t fully caught on, how to exactly powerscale one piece fairly

@narrowmax7382

9 ай бұрын

Also UNI naruto😭bro get serious your scaling is ass, it’s so debunkable💀

@Dredey04

9 ай бұрын

Super old on the brink of Death Whitebeard who wasn’t even shown to be able to use Haki (or at least not for long/properly). Most likely wouldn’t win in a fight against Kaido (he would prob put up a decent fight tho)

Lol at Naruto blitzing and one shotting Luffy ur hilariously wrong 😂😂

@darryltorres7302

9 ай бұрын

Right, so fighting against Aliens that travels from planet to planet eating their energy is better than fighting some pirates who can only damage islands? Makes no sense.

@LOTM_Peak

9 ай бұрын

Bro just gave you the reason with prooof to backk up and then you say no you're wrong without any proof

@XxcHuCkEXx069

9 ай бұрын

@@darryltorres7302 wtf does that have to do with anything

@XxcHuCkEXx069

9 ай бұрын

@@LOTM_Peak so u think Naruto is 100x the speed of light cuz he gave “proof”?😂😂

@LOTM_Peak

9 ай бұрын

@@XxcHuCkEXx069 100x is extreme low ball bro

for something to be at light speed, that something can't have mass. Therefore, since both naruto and luffy have mass, it is impossible for them to be at light speed or faster than light speed

Luffy ofc defeats Naruto until Naruto uses his ultimate weapon talknojutsu, or pulls out a piece of 🍖 lol

@mrstrangeworld5977

9 ай бұрын

no

Ngl Luffy would dunk on Naruto with his own Rasengan change my mind

@imayoubbtw615

9 ай бұрын

@@flaminto8219 Im not gonna debate on that cause it'll always be a back n forth debate. But Naruto is not ballin' like Luffy is. ⛹️‍♂️

@wakandaman8212

9 ай бұрын

luffy cant take his rasengan tf u on

@imayoubbtw615

9 ай бұрын

@@wakandaman8212 ☝️🤓

@wakandaman8212

9 ай бұрын

lmao if so then why didnt luffy take kaido's blast breath? atleast know your own anime before saying stupid shit lmao@@imayoubbtw615

Naruto in six paths mode has access to all nature transformations Oda stated in an SBS that it is not until a Devil Fruit user has at least half their body in water that they become immobilized. Oda stated in an SBS that Devil Fruit users are susceptible to all types of water, not just seawater. Moral of the story, naruto uses any water jutsu, d rest is history

@SmackyYT

9 ай бұрын

It has be a body of water not get splashed

@rowlanddavid1576

9 ай бұрын

Give an example of Naruto using a water jutsu.

@Taypha1914

9 ай бұрын

@@rowlanddavid1576 either u never watched naruto or just completey ignored what i said (HE CAN USE ALL FIVE CHAKRA NATURES). But if i must- Wind style: Toad Canon and Sage Art: Water style Rasenshuriken

@Taypha1914

9 ай бұрын

@@SmackyYT wiht the amount of chakra naruto has, trust me its gonna be more than a splash. Unless Luffys surviving multiple tsunamis its wraps

@rowlanddavid1576

9 ай бұрын

@@Taypha1914 first off, the first one isn't even his jutsu, and the second one is a power bomb, and not sea water. Plus, Luffy's temperature at gear 2 is enough to vaporize all that water before it even gets to him, then imagine what'll happen with the other gears. What I meant by jutsus is the type kakashi and zabuza did (that took 40+ hand signs to weave by the way), as chakra only jutsus without real water sources isn't real water. Add that to the fact that Luffy is way faster plus future sight. Naruto hasn't got a form that can beat Luffy since wholecake island arc.

Let's pray for the op fan and naruto fans🙏

Would newtons 3rd law apply to luffy? I get its because luffy is a physical fighter, however shouldn't his durability be a little lower since there is the haki multipler upon luffys attacks, which wouldnt be included when using newtons 3rd law? sorry i could be wrong i just wanted to see if im wrong and what i got wrong

@meteor2082

9 ай бұрын

He can use haki defensively so his dura still scales to his ap

@udayphilip5329

9 ай бұрын

@@meteor2082 oh yh mb, thanks for clearing that up

@XD-vj1rl

9 ай бұрын

you cant really apply real world physics to fictional worlds like this