0:54 yeah because Buggy would stomp Naruto. All hail Buggy the next Pirate King!

@sbthesage2100

Ай бұрын

Shhh don’t tell them the secret bro

@TrapWard

Ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 as a one piece 🍖rider i can admit this video is accurate🔥video bro keep up the good work

@Swiss_animations

7 күн бұрын

God D. Ussop easily defeats prime White beard and Roger

Swapped fights debates are more interesting that normal vs debates, change my mind.

@AlphaDwg

2 ай бұрын

facts

@kingoffans899

Ай бұрын

Agreed. As there are situations where a certain character will do better than another. Simply based on their current progress and abilities.

@Duck_lord138

Ай бұрын

Fax

@OyinkansolaAgboola

Ай бұрын

Facts

Kcm2 having less ap than Katakuri is fucking wild😭😭😭

@Gojo33259

2 ай бұрын

Faxs

@RizAniki

2 ай бұрын

The "G" is Rebron.

@Far-iah

2 ай бұрын

Ain't no way

@alexharris991

2 ай бұрын

@@Far-iahabsolutely insane fr 😂

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Why does kcm2 Naruto have better AP tho bc you said so ?

I just realized what’s stopping adult naruto from making shadow clones and beating Kaido, Shanks, Whitebeard and Roger all at once? He has better attack potency, better healing, better stamina and sensory prowess.

@RakuraiBlader

2 ай бұрын

I don't know if all of them do, but I know Kaido, Shanks and Roger use Conqueror's Haki, so (I believe) that would dispel the clones.

@MidTeirHuman

2 ай бұрын

1st Naruto isn’t so far above them stat wise for that to work if we’re talking about shippuden Naruto and conquerors haki would most likely dispel them due to them having have strong wills

@MoonS4444

2 ай бұрын

No he doesn't??? The hell do you mean? 💀

@RakuraiBlader

2 ай бұрын

@@MoonS4444 I just realized the absurdity of his statement; ain't no way Naruto has more stamina than Kaido for example.

@LazyAsian2557

2 ай бұрын

@@RakuraiBladerKaido fought for like what a day on Onigashima and was tired while Naruto fought for 3 days straight in a war while amping thousands of Ninjas

Good video . But for Sasuke vs Gear 5 luffy, sasuke absorbed the chakra of failed beasts when he fought Naruto at the end which means he would be stronger and faster then the sasuke that fought kaguya and ten tails madara. Two Naruto would also get faster and stronger when he uses a shadow clone to absorb nature energy from his surroundings.

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Yeah you just can’t quantify how much faster he is numerically which is why I didn’t make any assumptions

@yudasrain4774

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100you can't numerically quantify a lot of speed amps anyway

@devilgod4552

2 ай бұрын

​@@sbthesage2100 7:24 did you know six tailed beast bomb was calc to reach island to country level

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100also Luffy is immune to any all electric attacks as well as affects his surroundings including his opponents, energy and objects. There’s no way Luffy loses to Sasuke…

@sbthesage2100

Ай бұрын

@@Ignoreduser No limits fallacy a Chidori wouldn’t dissipate on contact with Luffy’s skin he’s simply immune to electrocution. You also forget that the Chidori is literally a blade/cutting attack which Luffy is weak to I literally already replied with this exact same argument you’re just pulling things out your ass at this point lmao never was any of what you said stated in the manga

Saying that Genjutsu would work on someone without chakra because a random woman in Naruto got genjutsu'd is a reach, as everyone in Naruto, Ninja or not, has Chakra.

@cjmatrix7366

2 ай бұрын

In the Itachi novel, itachi put a bee on genjutsu and the bee doesn't have chakra because hogoromo only distributes humans to chakra

@egg3282

2 ай бұрын

@@cjmatrix7366light novels aren’t canonically written by kishimoto

@Farenhyte-

2 ай бұрын

This is not the case. Chakra is a mixture of spiritual and physical energy, which all people have, but needs to be actively kneaded or mixed. This is what shinobi do and what hagoromo taught. People dont just walk around with fully formed chakra inside them

@Farenhyte-

2 ай бұрын

​@@egg3282They are part of the canon timeline

@egg3282

2 ай бұрын

@@Farenhyte- no it has no canonic authority or authorization from kishimoto.

I don’t know how he’s calculating speed of Naruto and sasuke 😂😂😂

@lucionjones8685

Ай бұрын

He kinda basied if am honest He has s06p naruto and Sasuke slower than kadio Who is 50 times light speed but he has kcm2 at 90 times light speed His video on naruto scaling are inconsistent Some video barely planetary Others Solar system Others universal Like he hasn't make his mind up kinda ironic how he claim Kuruma can't destroy the earth cuz no feats close.to that lvl When most statements character hasn't performed any feat close to it and there is 3 statements referring to that which make it consistent

@RohitNikam-ps2zj

Ай бұрын

@@lucionjones8685 bro sasuke isn't slower than kaido ......he is way more faster than kaido...and as for the naruto and sasuke scaling they are easily solar system level by the end of shippuden verse scaling ...as for the one piece I think they can be at best multi continental...

@lucionjones8685

Ай бұрын

@@RohitNikam-ps2zj i agree with you he downplay naruto and sasuke like what kinda of logically person who think six paths sasuke is slower than kcm 2 naruto

@RohitNikam-ps2zj

Ай бұрын

@@lucionjones8685 exactly...and as for the ap and dc even kcm2 naruto way outscales kaido or ant op character......

@Hayden-nd7oy

8 күн бұрын

Bro you naruto fans are alson extremely biased if your highballing naruto and susake you have to highball the one piece would which can get up to be universal+ if your counting uta.

I like the video, but I have two major problems. 1.) You essentially boil down a fight to speed and who can make a bigger crater. Meanwhile, ignoring literally everything else, like abilities, physical strength, environment, and reaction time. 2.) you prefer to go with data book statements and wonky translations over actual feats. For example Naruto was barely able to dodge a laser from Madara. Meanwhile Luffy easily avoided a laser from a robot. Both sides in the data books state these technique is light speed. This doesn’t automatically mean Post time skip Luffy is faster than end of series Naruto. It just means one piece characters with observation haki have better reaction time and won’t be able to be blitzed by Naruto despite him being way faster.

@Kiyotaka302

Ай бұрын

Lol barely Dodged? 😂😂 Watch the anime first kid.

@Fun_Is_Infinite

Ай бұрын

​@@Kiyotaka302whilst i'm gettong to Naruto and finished One Piece, i have to say that "watch the anime" is not an arguement

5.40 I'm pretty sure that in the databook it is stated that anything that comes out of the mirror is light speed. So haku comes out of the mirror and Naruto reacts to it

@justinbean1144

2 ай бұрын

It is stated, that is true. However, the Raikage and Bee were both said to be near light speed, meaning kuubi amped naruto and resolve amped sasuke in land of waves scale above V1 Raikage and V1 Bee.

@justinbean1144

2 ай бұрын

Also, six paths Naruto was narrowly able to dodge madaras light fang, meaning he is over light speed but not by much, which would also mean that land of waves amped Naruto and Sasuke are both on the same level as six paths Naruto.

@cjmatrix7366

2 ай бұрын

​Nah six path Naruto barely dodged light fang because he was held by limbo clones of madara .. Also haku itself not light speed he need to use a jutsu to become light speed​@@justinbean1144

@demontiming3234

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@justinbean1144or Madara’s attack is just ftl and we should just do composite scaling

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Never we’re the words “everything that comes out of the mirrors is light speed” you literally just made that up

How does teenage war arc Sasuke scale to an older version of himself in Naruto the last? Also on the high end, how would Kaguya's feats put Sasuke close to hers when he's outright inferior to her and has not once performed a feat on her level? You lost me on the later part of this video. Not to mention Kaguyas "feats" are highly debatable. but good video.

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Sasuke surpassed Kaguya upon absorbing the Biju chakra and stated to be stronger than Kaguya as well. Also I know Kaguya’s feats are debatable and so are white beards I was just offering a high and low end for both characters tho I lean more towards the low end for sure

@thedarkd6

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 okay but isnt making and destroying your own pocket dimension a haxs thing not a ap scale??? or would we consider someone like caribou the strongest in the verse cos he has an infinite pocket dimension???, and i would not say white beards are at all when we see him holding back to not hurt hes crew and it still has side effects on the other side of the massive world

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@thedarkd6 lmao there's no way you're trying to come up with a way to make the one piece high end valid and the naruto high end seem bad either high ball both of them or lowball both of them simple. Bc the white beard statement and scaling would be equally as ass as the kaguya scaling

I don't have much issue with ap but I think one piece speed is being severely underestimated we see the likes of zoro and luffy dodging multiple lightspeed attacks in pre timeskip with kuma's attacks and foxy's beams respectively, we see iva and luffy also dodge Pacifista lasers in the war, and this is before they had observation haki, going into the timeskip luffy should clearly be ftl as i said in another comment he literally calls light beams slow we also see that he only dodges after the beams are fired and get close to him. This is supposed to be a parallel to kizaru blitzing luffy in the war and calling him slow now luffy is at the level where basic light beams are slow so clearly base luffy in timeskip is ftl and only gets way faster and should be mftl+ by gear 5.

The way sharingan genjutsu works is by injecting the Sharingan users chakra into the target through the eyes.

@numberhunter62

2 ай бұрын

That's not the base Sharingan genjutsu, that's specifically the Mangekyo.

@kingdommccoy

2 ай бұрын

​@@numberhunter62 it's Sharingan period fam

@numberhunter62

2 ай бұрын

@@kingdommccoy No, with base Sharingan your opponent needs Chakra to manipulate their senses. With the Mangekyo they don't need any.

@kingoffans899

Ай бұрын

@@numberhunter62 this only applies to special Genjutsu obtained through the Mangekyou like Kotoamatsukami. All the Mangekyou does to normal genjutsu is make them stronger, not change the way they work on a fundamental level.

@GarglingDischarge

Ай бұрын

@@numberhunter62 I gotta look that up. You might be right. If I’m wrong you got it

And observation haki counters genjutsu Cos you can sense emotion how many people are around you can sense wickedness And Luffy learnt it with his eyes closed so even if he was under genjutsu he can still sense evil presenxe

Great video You should do this video again but with natsu and ichigo

Question, isn’t the whitebeard statement meant as if he went from island to island? Not in one hit? Correct me if I’m wrong

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Depends on your interpretation I just wanted to present the scale but I personally don’t take the statement at face value

@maddhandles06

2 ай бұрын

No it’s all at once

@Yoiyoi-ln3ko

2 ай бұрын

Tsuru literally said his shockwaves can cover the world

@demontiming3234

2 ай бұрын

@@maddhandles06no it’s not, that’s literally your headcanon. You would have to argue that Akainu was taking planetary strikes straight to the dome and you’d embarrass yourself if you tried to. The obvious interpretation is that he’d destroy the world overtime, and more so just referencing his potential to do damage with the fruit ability

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@Yoiyoi-ln3ko that’s not what she said she said she could flee to the ends of the earth and still not escape which dosent mean he can blow up the planet just that he could literally follow her around and she wouldn’t be able to escape bc of how his fruit creates tsunamis

I personally disagree with Naruto vs Doffy fight. Saying that russenshuriken should hurt Doflamingo is absurd, Doflamingo has amazing haki controll allowing him infuse even his cloth in haki and seeing how Raikage was able to tank it using cloak which isn't even about durability at all, Doffy can tank it pretty easily with armament and espesially with awakening which can take russenshuriken for him and also can be infused with haki and Doflamingo also obtain observation haki, so unless he is nerfed by gamma knife, like he was fighting G4, Naruto ain't catching him, especially with his range and ability to fly. Saying that Thunder Bagua is just 9 times faster than light comparing them with light beams which were dodged by base Luffy 500 chapters ago is just crazy. Not only from your words, G2 Luffy from Sabaody arc should be able to easily dodge Thunder Bagua from Hybrid Kaido, you also litteraly brought all scalings from Doflamingo, Katakuri, gathered it together and just threw it off, saying that Thunder Bagua should scaled from those light beams and after that you brought Databook statements to wank Raikage to light speed and Naruto who litteraly did the same thing Luffy did to light beams from Pacifista - dodge. Scaling Kagyua from creating expansive TSO using chakra from almost entire Naruto verse and scaling Sasuke who couldn't deal with that TSO with Naruto and had to finish Kagyua before TSO if finished is just incorrect. That attack wasn't using Kagyua's power, that attack didn't even mean to destroy anyhting, and creating doesn't scale AP, otherwise why wouldn't we scale fodders like Mont D'Ore who was stated to be able to create parallel worlds (Universes from alternative translations) to multiversal? Long story short, if we count litteraly all arsenal of OP characters and won't simplify some crucial details about Naruto abilities, OP verse rocks Naruto. Not even talking about genjutsu problem, which is known to working only inside Naruto verse due to chakra pathway system.

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Gamma knife and the Rasenshuriken have very little in common gama knife attacks your internal organs while the rasenshuriken is basically a fast acting cancer that attacks every cell in your body literally called a poison in the manga. So no Doffy isint just eating that shit lol moreover what is armament Haki going to help Doffy when the rasenshuriken is stated to not use conventional force to damage people. So at this point I’m beginning to think you don’t know how the jutsu actually works lol. As for the raikage tanking it tho I think kishimoto either didn’t remember how the technique worked causing a plot hole or that the raikage just regenerated really fast as an edo bc regenerating cells is probably faster than your actual body being completely destroyed but idk that may just be headcanon

@manlight5035

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 Unlike Raseshuriken Gamma knife wasn't shown to be tanked by durability, it bypassed advanced haki layers of Kaido so nothing indicates that Raseshuriken would obtain the same property, especially facing haki which doesn't have cell and prevents body from touching attack, how exactly Raseshuriken will bypass haki? And don't forget obsevation haki and awakening. Doflamingo has observation haki accroding to vivre card which allows him to predict consequences of Raseshuriken hitting him and either dodge, or protect himself with awakeining which again has no cells and won't suffer from poison + can be infused with haki additionally. Two pillars of strings were able to easily tank double culevrine of G4 so blocking Rasenshuriken which relies too much on body weakness will have to overpower that, and it simpli too weak in power to bust through it like Luffy in G4 did. Bunch of headcanon to cover issues with Naruto scaling is indication of bias.

@manlight5035

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 /

@era9900

2 ай бұрын

@@manlight5035buddy doffy isn’t tanking it.

@manlight5035

2 ай бұрын

@@era9900 If Raikage did, who has no feats in durability at all, Doflamingo does it easily considering how much he tanked in comparison with Raikage

Love you're vids bro, you're the only good power scaler that i trust. But for the kcm 2 Naruto vs katakuri i would have to say Naruto but w vid

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

Bruh he said “Sasuke would beat LUFFY with a CHIDORI.” Ain’t no way that’s happening.

@KK-uw4uu

22 күн бұрын

@@Ignoredusera chidori would still pierce luffy, it’s not just the electricity that makes it so strong but the force and impact of the blade, hence the name lightning blade. Luffy is weak to blades I.e. katakuris blade much less sasukes chidori that turn a meteor bigger that the leaf village to dust. The sheer destructive force would kill him but he wouldn’t be affected by the electricity.

@Ignoreduser

22 күн бұрын

@@KK-uw4uu the bad faith is soooooo staggering I contemplated responding. We aren’t talking “base” Luffy, which arguably wouldn’t lose to being stabbed by an electric knife, but 5th Gear Sun God Nika Luffy. At this point logic and reason is out the window, y’all pretend that it’s the same Luffy that fought Buggy (it’ll be like saying since Naruto and Sasuke lost to Lee easily to Lee in hand to hand combat that is their weakness). Y’all making judgments either based on bad faith or ignorance just make y’all look bad.

@Ignoreduser

22 күн бұрын

@@KK-uw4uu y’all act like he never seen or fought an opponent with a blade before. Just stop if that’s your strongest argument at this point.

One thing you gotta consider is if we’re talking after Jiraiya weakened Naruto’s seal, kurama would step in and take over Naruto’s conscience before naruto dies. Also the ability to summon gamabunta.

@sbthesage2100 Good video, there is one speed inconsistency I noticed that I’m kind of surprised no one has brought up? At the start of the Post Time Skip section of the video (G4 vs Pein) you say G4 is 10x the G2 speed that was already calculated to be 5x lighting. But this G2 calc was for pre time skip G2 Luffy? His post time skip base and thus his post time skip G2 should be several magnitudes higher right?

@sbthesage2100

Ай бұрын

Not quantifiable

Let's have an unexpected match up. Who would win, Kaido, the King of the Beasts, or goddamn Zygarde, the Pokemon of Order? Both are dragons, mythical and legendary, both have three forms with different abilities, and both are destructive. Here are some match up solely based on their similarities: Obito vs Katakuri: Both are near-untouchable Aang vs Ōnoki: Masters of elements and Wisdom. Sanji vs Shinra: Fire kickers. Aokiji vs Kyurem: Can freeze the world if they wanted to. Crocom- Crocodile vs Gaara: Darth Vader hates them. Kizaru vs Ultra Necrozma: Light beings. Tank vs Gargantuar: (Most unexpected) Zombie macho men. Luffy vs Plasticman: Imaginative stretchy bois. Zoro vs Atomic Samurai: SHING! SHING! SHING! Pain vs Big Mom: Soul manipulators Enel vs Luck Voltia: Battle-hungry sparky bois. Orochimaru vs Caesar Clown: Wicked scientists. Meroeleona vs Akainu: Merciless and too hot. Killer B vs Queen: Goodamn rappers and big bois. Odin vs Zeus: Mythological powerhouses (Refer to the actual mythologies). That's all I can think of.

@numberhunter62

2 ай бұрын

I'mma be honest. Ultra Necrozma would beat the dog shit out of Kizaru and it isn't close.

@bruhbruh9895

2 ай бұрын

@@numberhunter62 Who would win each fight? You tell me

@numberhunter62

2 ай бұрын

@@bruhbruh9895 some of them are intricate and based on interpretation and others I don't know about some of the characters. The clear ones would be Shinra, Ultra Necrozma, Big Mom and Orochimaru.

Naruto would absolutely destroy croc he would summon gamabunta who can shoot water which would low dif croc

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

Well it depends if he becomes a sand storm Naruto can’t do crap. Also depends on the location too. Luffy lost because croc was in his element and won because he wasn’t

@joonaspenttila201

Ай бұрын

@@Ignoreduser i have hard time believing that even in his logia form he would somehow survive that huge amount of water that gamabunta is capable of creating

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

@@joonaspenttila201 yes if he disperses himself enough it won’t matter unless you use Haki. Location matters with croc because he can also turn dirt and plant life into sand. He not an idiot so he’ll avoid being hit by water especially a big blast, croc is stronger than 12 year old Gaara and smarter.

@joonaspenttila201

Ай бұрын

@@Ignoreduser croc doesnt strike as smart he said mr 2 and mr 4 were stronger than mr 3 which obviously wasnt the case, tried killing mr 3 for no reason whats so ever he was still useful and that dumb choice came to bite him in the ass later, also not just finishing the strawhats him self was dumb but that can be chucked up as arrogance but still to me he seems below average in inteligent also he is not able to kill anyone i understand luffy surviving but he tried killing chaka 3 times and that man lived everytime so he probably cant kill kid naruto either especially when he has bs healing factor

@Fun_Is_Infinite

Ай бұрын

Crocodile's underrestimated power of draining the water out of your f*cking body and dehydrating you.

Tbh pre time skip luffy vs kid Naruto wasn't a close fight in the first place 🤷🏾‍♂️

If your a onepiece fan and see this just leave bro, y’all should know their the most disappointing scalers in anime rn

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

Yeah he lost me at “Luffy would lose to a CHIDORI” and not mentioning the utility of Gear 5th as well as not mentioning Kaido’s dragon form

Another W video as always I agree with mostly everything that you discussed in the video one thing is that maybe Luffy’s toon force could help him overcome the huge strength gap with rinne Sasuke like he could probably just completely peel of his susanoo as we’ve seen him even make contact and manipulate stuff that’s normally intangible and since Luffy’s starting to augment reality such as spawning random objects out of nowhere I wonder if stuff like that would translate in these types of fights. I would still give the w to Sasuke atm until we see more of Luffy’s toon force and when Luffy gets stronger in general

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

Sasuke is even stronger than Luffy so he’d just dog walk him in the most embarrassing way possible

gear 4 being sub relativistic is crazy

@masonmcfadden4886

2 ай бұрын

Fr bro was at least lightspeed at that point

@vellowta1867

2 ай бұрын

@@masonmcfadden4886hes been ls sense pre ts outran light beams on sab he massively low balled luffys speed lol

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

@@vellowta1867bro said Luffy would lose to a CHIDORI and didn’t even factor in the utility of Gear 5th. Nothing he said about Sasuke winning was true. He didn’t even factor in Kaido’s dragon form or anything.

@vellowta1867

Ай бұрын

@@Ignoreduser yea he’s obviously bias lmao

Great video you make

Wherever you got that text from its 100% false (13:30) The actual translation is this: Emitting light from the eyes to dazzle the enemy, seizing the opportunity and charging at high speed. Unleashing a flurry of sparks and delivering devastating consecutive strikes! Here is the vivre card text if you want to translate it yourself: 目から光を放ち敵の目をくらませ、隙を突き高速で突進。火花散る超威力の連撃を叩き込む!! Also canonically vegapunk (who is smarter than judge) could only crack laser technology after teaming up with kizaru to produce ls lasers, meaning juge's lasers would most likely come from the same source seeing as they were comrades back in the day and judge is just not smart enough to produce it on his own.

This shouldn’t even be a debate honestly, the scaling is way too different, I’ve watched both anime and dispite OP being my favorite out of them, I think they just made Naruto verse just a little more op, not to mention all the hacks they have. And don’t get me wrong , devil fruits are definitely hacks but like I said the scaling is just way 2 different so I don’t like comparing the 2 honestly

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

Yeah because Devil Fruits are better Ninjutsu and Haki is better than Taijutsu.

@riccomadlock711

Ай бұрын

Taijutsu is gas tho but I definitely thing haki and devil fruits are better 💯

damn bro dismantled naruto, redo the roger vs hashimara vid edit: bro went back to glazing

Kaguya truth seeking orbs was going to expand over time to cover the time space she could not destroy it all in one attack so i dont see how people use that in naruto and sasuke ap scaling

@yutaoGOATsu236

2 ай бұрын

Plus naruto and sasuke at that time barley scaled to kaguya at all they needed to seal kaguya in order to win

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Well even tho I don’t believe in this argument. As long as Kaguya scales to even a percentage of her truth seeking orb she’s 4D bc even .1% of infinite energy is still infinitely above any 3D level

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

That being said I think Naruto is like Small planetary but Uni isn’t hard to prove

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@yutaoGOATsu236 yeah but the sasuke I was scaling surpassed Kaguya after absorbing the Biju

@yutaoGOATsu236

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 with that kind of logic the random fodder she was pulling chakra from in order to create the truth seeking orb scale to universal because their power makes up a percentage of the truth seeking orb

bro is a fraud

Everyone in Naruto is born with chakra regardless of if you know how to use it or not

More swapped fights Is appreciated, because sometimes the difference In strengths can't be enough to beat someone's kit.

@czms922

2 ай бұрын

The Naruto fans really are upset here

Isn't Genjutsu created when a ninja controls the chakra flow of a target's cerebral nervous system, if that's the case then how would you control someones chakra flow if they don't have chakra. But idk if I'm right, I want to know your thoughts

@Naruto.D.Kurosaki65

2 ай бұрын

Yeah normally, but in Itachi's light novel he put a bee in a genjutsu and bees don't have chakra

@SnappIdoo

2 ай бұрын

@@Naruto.D.Kurosaki65 Well bugs have chakra so maybe bee's do too but i could be wrong, you do have a point.

@Farenhyte-

2 ай бұрын

This was kind of implied by jiraiya, but other feats and statements from more proficient genjutsu users retcon his statement. Specifically sharingan genjutsu bypass this

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

It won’t work because of Luffy’s observation haki. Genjutsu becomes pretty useless at the end of the series

@Farenhyte-

Ай бұрын

@@Ignoreduser when does observation haki give resistance to hyposis? Genjutsu is never "useless" and is inly ever resisted by people with specific counters like dojutsu or having a tailed beast or very good chakra control

Naruto Didn't use Talk no Jutsu 🤯Luffy doesn't get his plot review and Luck 💀

Oda stated that brook, and sanji would be the fastest strawhats with no powerups so its hard to say that luffy or kaido would be ftl in base when literally in the next arc luffy gets out sped by kizaru while luffy is in gear 5. Kizaru was shown many times to be the fastest in the verse, so if he's LS or FTL and luffy can hardly touch him while he's not trying then luffy is definitely not light speed nor is he close. Luffy in terms of AP narratively caps at island level since his strongest attack so far was only enough to destroy an island. Luffy's feat on dressrosa can't be island level since it only destroyed a certain portion of the city he was in. The kuma laser feat was debunked since luffy never shown the same speed again and since he got Blitzed by way slower opponents. Naruto is definitely beating kaido 10 times over since Naruto's stamina far surpasses what kaido has done, Naruto's full power destructive capabilities are way higher than one piece as a whole. Naruto vs Kaguya and Toneri have shown that naruto is on levels above planetary since toneri was going to throw the moon into earth 🤷🏿‍♂️ and naruto's durability far surpasses kaido since naruto tanked a moon splitting beam in base while going forward to one shot toneri after it. Naruto at his peak caps at Star - Solar system depending on if you use the feats during the kaguya fight or not and luffy doesnt even touch anything above planetary since white beard was only stated to be able to destory the world because of his fruit and yet we havent seen any bigger feats from the fruit besides any island level feats. And the statement of him being to destory the world could be put in the same category as kurama turning the world to ash. They can both be metaphors to say that they can cause great destruction to the earth itself and causing great ruin and destruction but there havent been any feats near planetary in one piece yet. Naruto has shown that all the otsutsuki are planetary threats and seeing as though naruto beat 2 in his teenage years one being able to make vast dimensions with celestial bodies and naruto being over her puts him on levels that one piece never got to touch

Always remember y’all no matter the outcome of Naruto vs Luffy, never forget….ichigo still wins

@maddhandles06

2 ай бұрын

Why does that matter dude?

@thyweebhub

Ай бұрын

@@maddhandles06 why you seem so bent over a comment💀

@MartezAnims

Ай бұрын

​@@thyweebhuball he did was ask a question, how is he bent?

@user-cz4cx3hv3k

Ай бұрын

Don’t worry he’s just mad cause bleach is the least popular out of the big 3 😂

@Fun_Is_Infinite

Ай бұрын

Yeah not gonna lie i chuckled there. It is true, even if it isn't relevant

u have no idea about speed at all

Kcm does not amp Minato’s teleportation speed Minato’s flying raijin speed is independent of the speed he can move his body cos in flying raijin he doesn’t move his body he instantly teleports it

One critique is, Luffy wasn’t aim dodging he was quite literally able to perceive and dodge light attacks, we don’t even need to use that as Luffy was dodging photons in the water 7 saga. So yeah luffys easily ftl pre timeskip, I don’t wanna get into attack power just wanted to put that out there

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

How is Luffy FTl pre timeskip lmao dodging something dosent make you faster than something you react faster than you can fight

@jextern7961

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 no reason to believe they wouldn’t be ftl in all categories, it’s because of how consistent it is and Luffy dodging foxys photons pre time skip and while I don’t think Luffy was ftl at this point it’s to show how perpetually it happens. Luffy would be ftl around thriller bark as zoro who is weaker than him was dodging kumas paw cannons which were stated to move at light speed.

@jextern7961

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 zoro performed this feat while weakened mind you

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@jextern7961 dodging =\ combat speed and you also have to calc the dodge before assuming faster than light that’s not how physics work bro

@jextern7961

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 if a persons body physically can’t move after perceiving something than they can’t dodge it and Luffy even post timeskip can physically move his arm out of the way of a lightspeed beam, it would make no sense for the characters you mention that are ftl at certain points in the story because I can just say they are dodging attacks. Calcs aren’t always needed and unless it’s out of context a character dodging a lightspeed attack makes them that fast, you realize this bro

There's no way Luffy's just gonna go straight and use King Kong Gun against the six paths of Pain that's way too OC pain's hax will probably catch him off guard

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

How is he gonna get caught off guard with observation haki?

You're just comparing stats. you ain't talking about how they go about the fight cause Naruto would usually be using hella tricky with the clones there's been multiple times he's tricked people with it especially during part 1.and you dont talk about the stamina too. Ain't tryna hate just saying cause a lotta people do this when it comes to vs battles people just forget that when doing these you also got to take that into consideration

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

He views it like a card game or something

ur MASSIVELY low balling luffys speed hes been ftl sense pre ts he out RAN light beams on sab pre ts this whole video is flawed

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Debunked that whole notion you clearly have selective hearing

@vellowta1867

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 no u didn’t u said he has ls reaction from a post ts feat ur NEVER mentioned pre ts when he outran the light beams in gear 2 u clearly dont kno what ur talking about like i said ur lowballing luffys speed hes been ftl sense pre ts and zoro out sped kumas paws also light speed and they dont slow down so ur wrong

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@vellowta1867 Luffy never outran any lasers in the manga wtf are you talking about 😭 he’s only ever evaded or dodged lasers until we see him fight kizaru stop watching anime and forming opinions based on videos Tylearned made years ago lmao dodging things dosent equal combat speed period cope about it

@vellowta1867

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100no he outran the lazers 🤣 in manga i have the pannel and kizaru isnt light speed hes well beyond it hes faster than a snake man luffy who is well beyond light speed so again ur wrong stop tryna to push ur claims as facts because ur wrong and its sad

@vellowta1867

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100n whoever you just said ive NEVER heard of in my life ur a joke 💀

Loved the vid, just a quick question: isnt luffy a rubber man? on top of the gear 5 dmg negation, shouldnt he also be immune to sasukes lightning based attacks? (16:22).

@sbthesage2100

Ай бұрын

No Luffy being made of rubber dosent mean Chidori disperses on contact with Luffy’s skin he’s just immune to electrocution

@itswellpaid169

22 күн бұрын

⁠@@sbthesage2100 that literally doesn’t make sense u can’t hit something that’s immune to lightning with lightning

luffy is rubber, hes invulnerable to electriciti. thats the whole point of when he fought enel

Kurama could destroy the Naruto world at FULL POWER. The bijuu bomb used as an example was from a casual KCM2 Naruto that only had 50% of Kurama. Huge misconception, but other than that and the speed scaling which honestly I can't definitively say is accurate or not, it was a good video.

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Would you like to join my discord server ?

@darryltorres7302

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 i'm good bro.

@Star-lord_25

2 ай бұрын

When hokage naruto suffered chakra disease, he can dodge photon blast without chakra spontaneously. Naruto dying is FTL. Luffy after timeskip can dogde PX5's photon blast ,luffy need haki to predict it. It's huge gap power scaling.

@thegreaterconsciousness5997

2 ай бұрын

@@Star-lord_25not true ignorance fallacy fatigued Zoro was dodging lightspeed pad canons effortlessly in thriller bark pre time skip and Luffy and half of the crew were dodging pacifists beams in Saboady in pre time skip before Luffy and the crew even knew what haki was. Lol you picked Boruto Naruto for your argument like you were spitting when one piece characters have been dodging and combatting light in pre time skip hell even Deadbeard was reacting and attacking Kizaru in Marineford

@Star-lord_25

2 ай бұрын

@@thegreaterconsciousness5997can luffy and crew dodge ? Are usop, robin and chopper FTL? 🤣🤣😂

Luffy should honestly be lightspeed by dressrossa, characters like katakuri and doffy are able to land hits on him which wouldn't be possible if they weren't faster than kizaru laser that luffy dodged with ease. Katakuri has even better observation and yet luffy was able to land hits on him meaning he as well should have lightspeed attacks. Also luffy literally calls the attacks slow in reference to kizaru blitzing him so to say it's simply aim dodge makes no sense with his statement which implies he is faster than the light beams

@kingdommccoy

2 ай бұрын

Predictive Dodging is not the same as Dodging. Pirates and others struggle with bullets without Haki. Sasuke can dodge with his Sharingan active, but without it he's getting touched( in some scenarios). Gazelle Man was faster than the Stawhats and he was only running 200mph, this is in Wano. Also Kizaru's Lazers aren't light speed, Kizaru is himself is Light Speed. His Lasers are focused in power instead of speed. They are as fast as bullets. Also the Pastafista Lasers are modeled after Kizaru's light powers. If Luffy is light speed then everyone he's fought and everyone who dodged the lasers have to be light speed also. The problem with that is the showings are just the opposite. So doesn't it make sense that no one but Kizaru is lightspeed and the top characters are faster than a speeding bullet?

@obezy8705

2 ай бұрын

@@kingdommccoy bruh what are you even saying "kizaru's lasers aren't lightspeed" like did you read what you typed? They are lasers do you know what lasers are? And they are light? It is like saying sound waves aren't sound speed. Y'all come up with the craziest nonsense just because you can't accept things, also you missed the point of what i was saying because it wasn't about the dodging it was about the speed of the attacks hitting despite of observation haki putting the speed of those attacks higher than the lasers

@obezy8705

2 ай бұрын

@@kingdommccoy also big difference between travel and combat speed, but of course you wouldn't know that. It's like comparing usain bolt to bruce lee, bolt is fast at running but bruce lee is fast at fighting that's luffy he fight's at lightspeed he doesn't travel at lightspeed

@obezy8705

2 ай бұрын

@@kingdommccoy also kizaru isn't capped at light speed his powers are lightspeed at base, and as we saw in his fight with snakeman he can accelerate so he is faster than light, and yes everyone luffy has fought seriously is faster than light doffy, katakuri, kaido etc

@kayasantebennett447

Ай бұрын

Even Pts Zoro was faster than light via his battle with Kuma dodging his paws which were stated to reflect at the speed of light and Zoro moved closer to Kuma while dodging 15+ paws

Great video

Luffy base stats do not go up vs katakuri. The fact is that katakuri has weak durability due to not being used to getting hit. Its the bad side of all that trainning to be perfect. If you re watch the fight Luffy probably didn’t even landed more than 10 attacks in total. What changed is that luffy was training/improving more his will than his observation soo in fact his haki got stronger* during that fight.

Bro really think sasuke and Naruto are universal I guess they can box with a goku now bro let me prove you wrong it clearly say that kaguya was moving starts not making them and teen sasuke don’t even scale to kaguya I say sasuke at most is around the same level of AP of a luffy and luffy speed bliss and you didn’t even talk about Haki

for gara vs alabasta luffy, you say he would be dead before he could release chukaku, luffy was never the type of person to kill, not he ever killed someone in the series, once gara gets overwhelmed chukaku is gonna comeout even if gara gets lots of damage (2k naruto barrage situation)

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Luffy would literally vaporize garaa with one punch he's thousands of times more powerful so garaa would be dead weather Luffy means to or not

Sorry bro but katakuri is faster than light. Even the Germa moves faster than light. And it stated and showed with them blitzing light

There's some issues with the multipliers on both sides but cool video nonetheless

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

Also Luffy losing to a Chidori is a big mistake

@Kidkinsey

Ай бұрын

@@Ignoreduser chidori is a piercing attack so I kinda understand it working

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

@@Kidkinsey so you are saying Luffy, Sun God Nika Gear 5th Luffy, the same guy who faced countless swordsmen and Lucci (peak Lucci) would lose to an electric knife!? It’s like saying he’d lose to poison. It just doesn’t make sense…

@Kidkinsey

Ай бұрын

@@Ignoreduser literally what is the correlation lol. Lucci aint sasuke

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

@@Kidkinsey Luffy at that point in the story is not only shown to have defeated blade and piercing opponents but has broken many bladed and piercing weapons. He also interacts with energy easily negating it and is immune to all electricity. He also is literally a far more creative and unpredictable fighter than Sasuke. Do you get it now or are you just gonna ignore literally everything Luffy can do like this guy?

Tankability and speed goes to one piece. AP and DC goes to Naruto. Everyone in the naruto verse learns combat in school while only the marines and groups like the samurai are trained in the one piece verse. Most pirates learn from experience, only a few have devil fruits and haki. This is why the groups with the most haki and devil fruit users have the highest bounties, your average marine isn’t doing a thing. Meanwhile most jonin in naruto have mastered two or three chakra natures and are proficient in genjutsu and taijutsu. But at the same time the amount of people that can take out a mountain is more in one piece. Overall the top tiers in naruto verse are planet conquerers/destroyers and the top ninja fighting them and aside from the famous statement about whitebeard, Imu has taken out a country and and the godvalley incident is all they have to show.

I don't watch op but shouldn't the rubber person be capable of surviving needles from a person unwilling to kill in the first place. There's no implication that the needles were different from normal senbon (no poison/barbs/etc.), and the rubber body is passive while jutsu require chakra meaning he could win on survivability.

Nah this mf downplaying one piece speed

WHAT IF? There will be a MULTIVERSE in Anime and Manga world where these anime characters will meet and fight or battling together against powerful evil opponent? Anything is possible. Especially that these anime/manga were all fictional characters and fictional story. What if Kishimoto and Oda through powerful businessman producer come up with an idea of this MULTIVERSE adventures between Shinobi’s and Pirates.

Why do people always choose to ignore all convention when it comes to speed in One Piece. It’s always “nuuuh noooot light whiiiiiiine” when the writer literally has Zoro dodging light speed air attacks in Thriller bark. If you won’t take writers on their word, Naruto is just some shitty looking ink on a page AP.

This was very dope ngl

U should do the same with Ichigo

Theres points I agree with but alot more points I disagree with

Like we’re going to say with a straight face that 1 chidori can beat gear 5 Luffy…

The Juinjutsu multiplier is actually said to be tens/dozens of times in the Raw, not just ten times. The Cursed Seal of Heaven is also stronger than the Sound Four's, and Sasuke is also getting stronger in base, which in turn would make his relative multiplier greater, and thus so would Version 1's boost, amongst other issues therein. Sasuke at the end of the series is comparable to Kurama Sage of Six Paths mode Naruto. Just Sage of Six Paths Mode on its own is already stronger and faster than Kurama Sage Mode on its own, and then Naruto stacks Kurama Mode on top of that. So Sasuke many times faster than light.

@Gojo33259

2 ай бұрын

I agree 👍🏽💯

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Would you like to join my discord server ?

@Arcadia_warlic

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100Considering I am not someone who has read One Piece, likely not.

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@Arcadia_warlic you’re already in it actually lol

Naruto Wood scale pretty well to be on the clue of the one piece story just imagine how much stronger he would be from mass Haki he will definitely have all three forms and could learn them possibly even faster than Luffy

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

Haki doesn’t work that way, you have to fight to get stronger. Like grinding in a video game, without cheesing mob characters.

Feel like it would have been better to scale dressrosa Luffy to sub rel by scaling him off thriller bark Zoro's feats as the scaling in the video relies on a definition of power that isn't very commonly used and its a bit of a calc stack

W

Naruto high diff wins croc, not just plot. But strategy. Croc is very blind to his opponents, too egotistical, it wouldn’t be a stretch that he would understimate him until he fall for many traps that would end him and Bunshin no Jutso is just perfect for an enemy like crocodile that relies on offense and faith in his fruit power than defense and stratagy/predictions.

So I'm curious if you took the kind of attacks into consideration while talking. When you go to Naruto vs Lucci (up to that point I agreed with everything you said; like even if Naruto used 1K shadow clones he still couldn't deal with a logia, unless he had a scroll with a water attack but he didn't seem to carry those) you mentioned finger pistols, however Naruto instantly healed from a Chidori in the chest one he had that cloak and was able to use his chakra cloak at a distance too and by that time he had the Rasengan, which would definitely do serious damage to Lucci if he got hit by it. We have also seen the cloak be able to grab things too and move independently, so I think that could give anyone problems. While I'm also curious how powers translate (which makes this tough), because Sasuke could just put Luffy in a genjutsu as well and the defense against that is to disrupt your chakra flow. I guess Luffy would actually have a fortunate match up there because Sasuke's strongest attack, the chidori, is lightning based, so even if it is a piercing attack, which Luffy is vulnerable to, he'd be unaffected. Which just kinda brings up how a genjutsu counter would work. You also assumed that in Luffy vs Pain he went right to Gear 4 and right to his strongest attack initially before any of the Pains could act. Luffy doesn't typically start his fights off going into Gear 4 right away, didn't against Doflamingo. If the Pain that could absorb energy got a hold of him too he could undo Gear 4. I do think you'd have to play the fight out before it would get to that point, remember, if just 1 of the 6 paths of Pain could last before Gear 4 runs out Luffy is dead. This happened against Doflamingo and if Luffy has to deal with summons (without any of his own), the Pains reviving themselves, and dodging a punch of weapons along with gravitational powers (the other ones I don't think factor into combat, more support) I think they could. Then with Naruto vs Doflamingo, you compared his powers to Kakazu, however Kakazu couldn't do anything equivalent to his awakening. It then could go to if enough chakra could overpower the strings if Naruto got tied up. If we assume he could then he would almost certainly win It seems all your scenarios are just comparing power levels as opposed to techniques and fighting styles

Earthquake devil fruit= continental to planetary to star lvl??? *insert Robin face meme*

@MagicianSama

2 ай бұрын

This guy says the Bijuu statement and the Sanin Country level statement aren’t enough evidence to prove then used that statement LOL

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@MagicianSama just a high and low end to prove a point I don't agree with the white beard scaling and have debunked it on this channel b4 sorry if you misunderstood

Hey, can we get a jjk vs demon slayer comparison?

I would love to pd you one day. Cuz the one piece downplay is always high with you

@masonmcfadden4886

2 ай бұрын

Fr lol

Sorry but you are wrong Haku isn't beating Luffy at the beginning of the series and Naruto isn't reacting Crocodile

What app did you use to edit?

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

I use premiere pro

@klemen3166

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 what about the thumbnail?

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@klemen3166 thunder god made this for me so I can’t help you there

@klemen3166

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 np 👍

I just want to say that one piece has still not ended so for all we know Luffy could become stronger than Naruto in his prime or Naruto before he got nerfed

I like your view, I think it's great but im curious about what you say about amor haki, future sight and luffy's toon force like in the resection egghead chapters. And how naruto would react to odd devils like the wash wash fruit, thanks😁

Adult naruto no Baryon mode is star level with MFTL+ speeds. aka massively faster than light. around 100-500x faster than light. Baryon mode naruto solar system level with inaccessible speeds. By catching shiiki's robs. Oskustki shiiki stores his robs in a timely dimension and he grabs the robs from that dimension and uses them. It requires inaccessible speeds. And naruto caught them and didnt move an inch ●. And sasuke rinnegan & mangekyou sharingan couldn't even see it. And kid sasuke from og naruto kid sasuke just alone his base sharingan can see light speed attacks. Stated in manga btw. Obviously rinnegan & mangekyou can see MFTL+ attacks aka 100-500 faster than light attacks. Sasuke couldn't even see the robs naruto effortlessly caught. And broke btw. ●also Baryon mode brains your life force so its ggs. Luffys stamina problems been pretty bad. Been like that since dressrosa arc. Where he passess out & hes helpess and without some1 there hes dead. Sleeps mid fight btw. I sh1t aint flying in other verses. Especially in a 1v1💀☠️ luffy has a huge stamina problems. bro naruto in shippuden fought for 3 days straight while giving his chakra away to the whole alliance lol💀 👉💠Btw in naruto the last movie toneri otsutsuki effortlessly spliced the moon in half. And threatened to Destroy the Earth. Toneri said to naruto "ill destroy u and the earth 🌎 " basically naruto 1 punched this man. And cracked the surface of the moon. And Naruto ran through the same attack that split the moon in half clean cut in half btw. And this one was at full power. Naruto ran through that attack that literally split the moon. And splice attack btw too. And this is just teen naruto before hes hokage. A weaker naruto than hokage & baryon. ●literally thats was planetary statements. And moon level feats. ● bruh no onepiece Villian has threatened the earth. And countrys. ●bro kaido. Whitebeard, roger is like the strongest characters & they have like island level attack Potency. ●literally imu the top the strongest. She has the ancient weapons that are like the strongest. Thats has to be hidden from everybody 😂● bro literally the ancient weapon that sabo was scared asf how . Was a island destroyint weapon. Its literally just a island destroyer.💀☠️ ● bro nobody in one piece has any of the feats in naruto the last movie💀☠️ bro how can threatened to destroy the planet or destroy the moon in onepiece? And those are foddar characters comapred to boruto. Naruto the last movie. Btw Baryon mode id compared to Timeskip boruto btw boruto can literally rotate the fkn earth with his fkn wind☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀. Boruto has time space ninjujustu. Bro can literally teleport into a different time space and otsutsuki's have the same ability btw. By default. Otsutsukis literally conquerors solar systems. Naruto & sasuke are fighting & beating these beings bro. These are all star level fights. How can onepiece island-contient level characters compete?? Its based off feats & power scaling btw not just me assuming. I watch & like way more one piece than boruto btw. Its just the difference is so obvious. Research what they both can do. And both their feats & scaling

These comparisons really show just how garbage Naruto’s power system is. The more fleshed out, creative and constant a power system is.. the more poor it compares to a system where “oh, I can create a bomb that destroys GALAXIES” Dragon Ball is by far the worst. “Haha, I tap my desk and reality crumbles” So creative! Naruto comes second in garbage power systems. Lmao.

I disagree with a bit of it, but overall pretty good. Pretty interesting to see how theyd match up. All the people getting salty in the comments need to chill lol

@sbthesage2100

Ай бұрын

Most respectful comment I’ve ever seen 😭😭😭😭

I believe it boils down to the chosen ones vs the sun god. Toon Force destroys, its what Tom and Jerry have taught us over the years. You sum that with haki. Im sorry but Luffy vs Sasuke is not fair. Luffy takes the w for sure. You said Izanagi right, what about future sight? And if sasuke throws a detonating massive attack like Indra's arrow. Guess what. Luffy is just gonna reflect it, its just to show the ridiculusness of a man that literally caught and was swinging in lightning. Edit: I respectfully disagree, but also I have a bias towards toon force so 😂🤷🏽

i agree with literally everything... are you a clone?

Bro really said that katakuri has greater Ap than KCM2 Naruto 😂😂😂😂😂

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

The OP verse causally scales higher than Naruto’s…

@RohitNikam-ps2zj

Ай бұрын

@@Ignoreduser 😂😂😂😂prove it...

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

@@RohitNikam-ps2zj when The Kages looked upon a giant meteor and sh*t themselves. Luffy dwarfed that an awhile ago, Zorro did the same later on and neither opponent was even B tier…

@RohitNikam-ps2zj

Ай бұрын

@@Ignoreduser brother the kages u are talking about are no where near the top tiers of Naruto verse...😂😂😂and you say that op is casually higher than Naruto verse than why are you comparing the OP high tier characters to low tier characters like war arc garra and tsuchikage. ..😂😂😂give me some real comparison...

11:20 it says almost the speed of light…

u know pains planetary devistation was calced to country right

But the "random woman" has chakra because of what Kaguya did

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Chakra has to be actively created people don’t just have it

@raidenpainn1561

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 yeah. Kaguya ate the chakra fruit, Hagoromos and Homura were born with it, after defeating Kaguya, Hagoromo gave it to basically everyone as ninshu and then people weaponized it into ninjutsu

@lebrondavis1420

Ай бұрын

@@raidenpainn1561chakra is a in all living things it’s their life force it’s within every thing that’s alive because because someone isn’t as skilled at using it doesn’t mean a skilled genjutsu user or sharingan user can’t either that makes no sense

@raidenpainn1561

Ай бұрын

@@lebrondavis1420 chakra is in everyone because of Kaguya

@lebrondavis1420

Ай бұрын

@@raidenpainn1561 exactly

Conquerors haki will be able to knock out any Naruto characters cuz they don't have haki to protect themselves

@lootbitch7568

2 ай бұрын

Guaranteed most characters will is on par or stronger non stop wars throughout the story everyone had to get ready for war everyday

@coreywilson7326

Ай бұрын

Here we go with this again

Sasuke killing Luffy with a chidori is objectively false, electricity is literally doesn’t work on him also with Luffy’s observation haki he’d know not to look Sasuke in the eye and wouldn’t need too.

@sbthesage2100

Ай бұрын

No limits fallacy a Chidori wouldn’t dissipate on contact with Luffy’s skin he’s simply immune to electrocution. You also forget that the Chidori is literally a blade/cutting attack which Luffy is weak to And where are you getting that observation Haki would help Luffy not look Sasuke in the eye lmao there’s literally 0 way to prove this is possible future sight and observation require intense focus and are usually used in the heat of battle and there’s plenty of instances where Luffy has failed to use it at the beginning of fight or even at all bc of how much focus it requires

@Ignoreduser

Ай бұрын

lol the power comes from the electrical attack, so you are saying he’d lose to a Knife? Or can be blocked by black flames? Even if black flames could work on him, he could literally use anything to combat him. You literally said he has lightning fast reflexes so how will he be put under genjutsu? Observation haki literally gives you heighten awareness and future sight as well.

Amazing video, everything is on point. Only question is Kurama being able to turn the world into ashes is not liable, But whitebeard's statement is liable? I mean they only showeda town feat. So whitebeard being able to destroy the world isnt liable eathier

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

I didn’t really wanna go into the white beard thing bc I’ve already talked about it multiple times but I also think the white beard statement is equally as shit if that helps clarify things just mentioned it to put in perspective that Naruto gaps Luffy in AP even with wank

@irvinmorales5641

2 ай бұрын

@sbthesage2100 oooh ok, I thought you said the kurama statement was shit but the whiteboard one was accurate lmao. I was wrong. Anyways amazing video man, everything was perfectly scale, I used to think pains could beat gear 4 because they can just ripped his souls out but I never even thought of the speed gap.

Sorry but Luffy is beat Haku cause he can tank all the darts not to mention he would simultaneously attack the ice mirrors

I love the video, I'm watching it on my TV and I like watching videos like this, but I feel the main thing people don't put in consideration is that the timeliness for them both is different. To explain it better luffy is having to get stronger within a shorter time frame than naruto, which if you don't know much about naruto, you can look this up on Google, naruto is around 32 in baroto, that's because narutos storyline is more stretched out than luffys, making is so that naruto us not having to get as strong throuout the series

@user-lj8pg2xl5i

8 күн бұрын

I dont talk about things like this on a daily bases nor do I do things like this for KZread but I have watch both animes and have watch many videos like this so I personally think I can say things like that but I do want to know what yall think about what I have said cause I think if you look at it like I said it, it changes how you look at videos like this bit thus is just my opinion

I disagree with your takes about nanruto and sasuke speed because there a few things you didnt take into consideration but other then that decent vid

bro is saying chidori is working on luffy when it gets nullifyied and bro susano gets nullified by gaint mode gear five and his awaking powers not just how sauske and use this and that ur glayzing narutos verse hard asf and ur talking about doffy and kakuzu or whatever the dude is if u seen the same one peice i seen they dont even use ther powers the same like naruto gets cooked by the one peice verse till he gets sixth paths and bro reacting to light attacks meaniing luffy and the pacifista and if naruto throws a light speed punch at luffy thats a light speed attack witch he can dodge like fr with future sight and luffys haki from after wano or even the fight with kaido bro ur glazing trying to give them a chance and even luffy and haku i feel is wrong because we have really no feets to prove she is anywhere near kakashi and making the watewr dragon she never even did it or nothing put the ice mirrors cuz her gekigenkai and sauske wit base sharingan was low key cooking her so luffy getting nettles from don kerige those big ass ones compared to sebons cmon

@semiperkinn

2 ай бұрын

bro tsunade broke the fucking susano luffy cant thats cap

@semiperkinn

2 ай бұрын

bro advanced haki breaks tree if that hits naruto bro its taking a arm cmon now bro ur glazing

@Fun_Is_Infinite

Ай бұрын

Please learn grammer, i can barely see your arguements

Wait how is rennigan Sasuke slower than kcm2 Naruto?

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

He’s not quantifiably faster I never said he’s slower

@hoifzf

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 yeah but it would be wildly inconsistent for him to still not be past that speed otherwise Madara would not have been cut in half and Sasuke and Naruto would not have been able to fight at regardless of the unquantified percentage Naruto was holding back

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@hoifzf that’s cool there’s no way to quantify how much faster he is numerically than KCM2 Naruto tho so there’s no reason to make assumptions

I was looking forward to Naruto vs enel

Did you just say Lucci could beat Gen Cloak Naruto with a Finger Pistol 😂 he has Regeneration bro

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Sorry I’m aware of that but lucci still gaps in power so he could just punch off his head

@kingdommccoy

2 ай бұрын

​@sbthesage2100 I liked because that was funny. You know Naruto is faster than Shave Lucci. Naruto was strong enough to break the Ice Mirrors? Healed from a hole in chest. Naruto always fights Stronger opponents and no one has ever came close to taking his head off. Come on brother I know you don't truly believe Rob freaking Lucci can beat a character stronger and faster than Gear 2 Luffy. Forget what OP Glaze Scaling says, OP character are not in the same league as Naruto characters.

@kingdommccoy

2 ай бұрын

OP characters that are actually worth mentioning: Mihawk, Garp, Whitebeard, Shanks, Kaido, Roger, Oden, Sabo, Kizaru, Kuzan, Doflamingo, Kuma, Jimbei, Marco, Raleigh, and King. Anyone else can't do much to main character ninjas.

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@kingdommccoy yeah ur incredibly bias i explain why Naruto has worse stats in the video and why Hakus combat speed isn’t light speed sorry

@daryllfavortio6944

Ай бұрын

Question? is lucci's finger pistol stronger than Amaterasu a black flame that as hot as the sun ? or Ten tails cataclysm? or Sasuke big Fire ball jutsu that can vaporize the ground? cuz this attacks is tank casually by naruto's Charka Cloak

This video is nothing but hot takes I've watched both though I fell off one piece around episode 1034-8 If Naruto gets placed in Luffy's world there's no one that's beating him if he progresses at the same rate that he does in his own series. The one piece characters aren't comp for him he can always overwhelm them with sheer power or sheer speed and if all else fails pure endurance. I can definitely see Gaara losing to Luffy but it's not a blitz. Pain is definitely beating Luffy Universal Poll stab him it's over what is he gonna do then. It took six tails for Naruto to resist almighty push. God forbid he actually uses planetary devastation it took eight tails to dig Naruto out of that.

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@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

It’s in the description

@lootbitch7568

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100new link?

Only problem with this video is Luffy was the same strength from east blue- marine ford as he never trained to get stronger until he lost his crew

@sbthesage2100

Ай бұрын

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

@kayasantebennett447

Ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 if you believe that’s dumb then you haven’t watched One Piece. Cause he never revealed strength that wasn’t already previously there cause as we all know Luffy didn’t run into Villians in order of progressive strength

@Fun_Is_Infinite

Ай бұрын

What is blud on about? Even if you try to entertain that idea, it is clear that he has been training, ESPECIALLY DURING ENIES LOBBY NEVER SAY SOMEONE HASN'T WATCHED A SERIES WITHOUT WATCHING THE SERIES YOURSELF.

East Blue Luffy losing because of speed???? Haku… What about Kuro!?? You down playing luffy reflexes for suuuureeee. What about Enel???

@Fun_Is_Infinite

Ай бұрын

Enel was not east blue. Kuro is fast, but at best high balls, he moves at the speed of sound

@r.gentleman

Ай бұрын

@@Fun_Is_Infinite so haku moves at speed of what then? You really think naruto classic kyubi form is above speed of sound??

@Fun_Is_Infinite

Ай бұрын

@@r.gentleman I have no clue what that Naruto form is (cause I've only just began watching the series 😭) So I cannot say that for sure. But saying East Blue Luffy is as fast as the speed of sound is as stretchy as he himself

7:35 you can actually get gear 4 Luffy to Multi continental because the last major fight right before Doffy is Don ging Joa who could split an ice continent in a single blow casually and Luffy in Gear 3rd was relative to that level strength and the speed scaling for post timeskip Luffy i believe to be Mftl off upscaling from pre Timeskip Zoro who could evade Kuma's compressed air attacks at a very close distance and his palms compress air at the speed of Light!

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Splitting a continent dosent make you Continental what kinda logic is that lmao I’ve seen calcs for the feat they’re no where near continental. also that was prime chin jao not the one Luffy was fighting.

@nicholasaugello2534

2 ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100 appreciate you for taking the time to reply to comment 🤠 , guess I miss understood that feat he accomplished, he just did it with such ease and yeah that is him at his prime.

@cheapthrills8963

2 ай бұрын

his son don sai has the power to split the continent stated by don chinjao himself and hes literal fodder to base luffy. they split a continent that was stronger than steel, he said his men could stay there for years with blow torches and axes and wouldnt even dent the ice continent@@sbthesage2100

@kayasantebennett447

Ай бұрын

@@sbthesage2100but you literally said toneri was moon level for splitting a moon

@sbthesage2100

Ай бұрын

@@kayasantebennett447 check every calc for the feat it's moon level due to how fast the feat was performed an how much kinetic energy the attack outputs

Crazy he said one chidori to gear 5th luffy and it be over is stupidest thing i heard of

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

Why tho ? His AP is substantially higher than

@waldysanchez1081

2 ай бұрын

@sbthesage2100 he immune to lightning period enel ap was higher then luffy and it have no effect on him the same with the lightning bolt in log town and the Thunderbolt from big mom in wano in every time we see it luffy is unexpected and doesn't know that it hitting him like with Enel

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@waldysanchez1081 I never said he wasn’t immune to electrocution so pls don’t act as if Chidori isint a whole cutting attack lmao or that it would just disperse on contact with his skin bc enel shot a blast of lighting at him and nothing happened you’re literally ignoring the entire concept of Chidori as a jutsu Luffy’s Literal weakness and using a no limits fallacy with out of context evidence do justify your own absurd thinking and claim

@waldysanchez1081

2 ай бұрын

I know the chidori penetrate that part of the it sasuke fist his opponents that's the joke lol but how luffy rubber body works he immune to lightning and it's effects idk if the lightning release from the chidori causes the penetrate effect but you if you said any other sasuke attacks that wasn't lightning base I agree it just the chidori part at the end of the video that and you left out that luffy immune to lightning and you didn't explain why would chidori work on luffy body works

@sbthesage2100

2 ай бұрын

@@waldysanchez1081 so you’re admitting I’m right then ? Meaning I didn’t need to explain the obvious lmao Luffy can be immune to electrocution but the Chidori dosent electrocute people it uses lighting to produce a cutting effect he’ll the lighting blade is literally called lighting cutter in the og kanji of the technique this is very common knowledge so the only person who should feel stupid is you my friend you deliberately misinterpreted what I said bc you’re clearly bias or horribly ignorant