Note: There's some sloppy research and wording in here. I'm sorry. (1) The white paper by Michael Kelly is funded by a climate-denial think tank. (other, better sources linked below) (2) I want to make clear that I don't think EVs are the devil, I just think they are not THE solution to future transportation. It feels as if there's such a heavy emphasis on EVs and comparably little on public transit. I believe it should be the opposite. There will always be a role for EVs, but it must be much smaller than what it is currently. Please read further on this and come to your own conclusions. There are some great counterpoints in the comments! I have a bunch of resources in the description! On material demands of a clean energy transition: iea.blob.core.windows.net/assets/ffd2a83b-8c30-4e9d-980a-52b6d9a86fdc/TheRoleofCriticalMineralsinCleanEnergyTransitions.pdf On production of EV batteries: www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02222-1

@chrisstearns10

2 жыл бұрын

You shouldn't post sloppiness if you are doing this for a living, take the time and fix it before posting or else you look like an unintelligent person trying to spread conspiracy theories. And you will lose subscribers and views when they fact check you and find out you are spreading misinformation.

@esmaistuu

2 жыл бұрын

How would this work in less populated areas

@michaelrch

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I generally agree with your take but the numbers are very important here as the differences between different forms of "clean" transportation can be surprising. For example, a high speed rail project in the U.K. called HS2 is due to be net positive for emissions until thf 2080s! It's still going ahead of course :(

@EarthCreature.

2 жыл бұрын

You've been infiltrated by big oil and its pathetic. Elon Musk's EV may not save us because is as big of an embarrassing capitalist stain on humanity as you have proven yourselves to be lately, the Aptera WILL.. You're purposefully misinforming people. Never charge technology is already here and being produced right now in CA. And they're cheap/luxurious too

@AZaqZaqProduction

2 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminhadenray I agree to the extent that something like half his videos follow the format "why ___ won't save us." Yeah, it's easy to lose hope when it turns out that every good thing you hear about climate action actually isn't good enough.

I'm an Estonian and live in Tallinn. When public transport became free I sold my car the next day and started taking public transport. It has allowed me to pay my debt off faster and experience true financial freedom, which allows me to purchase more local goods and raise me out of low income. I hope other countries around the world adopt this as I want others that were in my situation can flourish.

@deningman

2 жыл бұрын

Living in Australia with vast distances between destinations and limited to no public transport outside the core city centres has hampered the adoption of EV's. As for the prospect of abandoning the car for public transport, this is only suitable for inner city dwellers. My understanding is that the European Commission has a Hydrogen Strategy that is getting traction.

@sprunkadct

2 жыл бұрын

Well Estonia is small. In the United States even if public transport became better, I would still have a car due to the distances that I got to travel pretty often. They can range from 3 hour to 8 hour drives.

@user-vi4zw6zu4c

2 жыл бұрын

You cannot compare a literal midget country to big countries like US, Canada, Australia, Russia etc...

@ShrunkedDude

2 жыл бұрын

We should do this Scotland, we have very high population density so this would work. But instead people here like to pretend their in the USA.

@orneryokinawan4529

2 жыл бұрын

You also live in a tiny country with tiny infrastructure. So of course it works. You need to understand how big the infrastructure here is.

Also crucially road-based public transit (like buses) need dedicated lanes because if they get stuck in traffic with all the cars there will never be a time incentive to take public transit - public transit should be the best option, not just the one people take to save money or the environment

@GTAVictor9128

2 жыл бұрын

In the US, public transport is basically only used by those who are too poor to afford a car, thus creating a negative feedback loop by disincentivizing anyone else from using it, creating more traffic and thus further slowing down public transport.

@SaveMoneySavethePlanet

2 жыл бұрын

You bring up a good point. Making public transit free will get a handful of people on board, and preaching about the emissions will get another handful…but there will always be a group who say things like “meh, my car gets me there faster.” So like you say, we have to turn it into the best option in order to have a chance of getting the most people on board.

@patricialongo5746

2 жыл бұрын

In Honolulu they PROMISE that the tram will NEVER reach the shopping center in Ala Moana! By GOD!!!

@MannIchFindKeinName

2 жыл бұрын

@@SaveMoneySavethePlanet most of the time its enough to treat all participants in traffic just and fair to disincentivize cars. People dont realize how much of a leg up cars have over pedestrians due to massive lobbying. In germany most public transportation is partly public/government-owned or very at least heavily subsidized. So we kinda do think busses can have priority at i.e. traffic lights. It's not super popular yet, but we have cities that done so for really long time already (back then mostly just an extra-traffic light specifically for busses and "half-a-lane" for the bus to properly get into the other streets when turning; nowadays its often with a tracker that checks if a bus is near the traffic light). We do a lot of stuff different too, but i have seen the differences in punctuality compared to cities that have no such system in place at all, and through out the normal day its a lot better (rush-hour sucks everywhere but in japan :P )

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

@@SaveMoneySavethePlanet Because urban planning in most parts of N. America sucks. A proper Transit-oriented development planning would include adequate pedestrian / cycle trails, mixed development (which shorten the distance between home and work / shops / etc) and concentration around either transit stations or bus routes. Streets are designed to slow cars down, if not banning them altogether. In that sense cars are not necessary faster than transit even without congestion, and inconvinent anyway. Between cities trains are at least twice as fast as the cars, and good feeder are provided at the destination. So unless you're moving large bulky stuffs or going to some really remote places, cars aren't necessary. That's basically what European and properly developed Asian cities like Tokyo are doing for years.

Thanks so much for this. I've had a gradual shift over the past few years from hyping up electric cars, to being turned off by all cars. This video solidified that for me.

@SaveMoneySavethePlanet

2 жыл бұрын

Are you me?!? Haha but seriously, I’m way more excited to buy an electric bike these days and see the bike infrastructure get built up. Bought my wife a pair of roller skates for our anniversary this year and I’m hoping that helps get her onboard!

@youwastedyourtime1585

2 жыл бұрын

this comment sounds oddly close to someone questioning their sexuality that being said I totally feel the same haha

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

Many legitimate environmental NGOs have spoken against cars and planes for years only to be fed with deaf ears. If you do the math you'd see the energy density just can't compare.

@RacefanPat68

2 жыл бұрын

Good luck if you don't live on a transit line or are physically challenged. No more farming or food either I spose!

@autohmae

2 жыл бұрын

If we do go with cars, I would suggest stopping car ownership and go with Uber-like services (possibly self-driving ?) and fleets, this means 90% of all cars needed because of car ownership wouldn't have to be build.

Also, in the continental US there's already a lot of train rails in areas that have no public transit. I'm from a small town in Indiana and if there were passenger trains on the local rails it would cut down to drives to Indianapolis immediately. And in many cases there USED to be passenger trains on these rails but they disappeared over time.

@SaveMoneySavethePlanet

2 жыл бұрын

One of the issues that LA has is that those rail lines are actually owned by the freight companies. So anytime a passenger car and a freight car want to use the same rail, the passenger car has to pull over in a station and let the freight car go. This leads to passenger trains which are more often not on time, which in turn leads to lower ridership, less revenue, etc. We’re working on it though and building rails owned by the passenger car companies so that this doesn’t continue. My point is, just because you see a railroad doesn’t mean that it’s always so simple as “put a passenger car on there and done!” I’ve found out a ton about this stuff since I started reading up on projects that my city has going on. And I try to regularly call/email in order to make sure they know that someone wants them to keep pushing!

@Emily-ce7hd

2 жыл бұрын

@@SaveMoneySavethePlanet Thanks for the additional info! I know there's a lot of complexity to the issue and hopefully as we talk about it more the path forward will be clearer.

@Amaling

2 жыл бұрын

"They were removed due to car companies buying off the legislature over time"

@PesteNegro

2 жыл бұрын

In a capitalist and deregulated transport system, cargo will most likely be prioritized over ppl. In trains all you gotta do is compare the density of a car packed with ppl and a same size car packed with whatever the cargo is. Even if it's just tap water, probably it'll have a overall profit higher than a car full of ppl. And that's why I think that either the lines must be built separated or the market must be regulated and even if you build two railroads you still gotta specify and regulate the use of each one of them (all that to say that, yes, the state *must* intervene)

@erinrising2799

2 жыл бұрын

same, I'm in Oregon and there are disused rail lines right thru the middle of town that lead straight to Portland

A huge problem I see here at home (the US) is that our cities were poorly planned out. You can't walk anywhere. Obviously you can but a trip to the store will take over an hour by walking. And unfortunately many places have unfinished sidewalks or none at all.

@hectorvega621

2 жыл бұрын

Depends where your going. Mall yes, Small Grocery stores no. Funny there's a good bus route to the mall, but I like to walk to mall and take the bus back home.

@christopherdeangelis6383

2 жыл бұрын

This is a major issue in the US. Another thing people get wrong is they think the US was just "built for the car", but car dependent LA used to have one of the largest streetcar networks ever. We didn't build for the car, we bulldozed for the car

@maxentirunos

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend the ''how the car industry stole the american dream'' video.

@JamesDecker7

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, wonder if residents could make building up functional mass transit and housing a major point of who they vote for for leadership in city, county, state, and federal leadership…….Nah, too much work.

@ZentaBon

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesDecker7 I'll do it. It's the way to affect change.

A wise man once said: "Electric cars aren't here to save the planet, they're here to save the car industry"

@nataliekhanyola5669

2 жыл бұрын

Yup!!!

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

You can pin any tag you like on it, but the fact is we in the UK now have people dying in London, and their death certificates cite pollution as one of the factors in their death. It's about saving a future for those yet to come...... It's a hard fact. There has been measurable large increases in toxic levels of pollution in our towns and cities. If nothing is done, people will begin dying in their 40's and 50's in just a decade or two. Is that the future you'd want for your children?

@RealSergiob466

2 жыл бұрын

True

@Lildizzle420

2 жыл бұрын

exactly

@runninginthe90s75

2 жыл бұрын

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As someone who lives in suburban America and has to own a car, I really hate car-centric societies. Keep in mind I am a car person and I love driving- just not through traffic. As a college student, I need a car to reliably get to my college which is an hour from me (Still the closest college I can afford). Car expenses are a lot and while my part time job does pay for them, the issues that come up from owning an old car like mine (The only kind I can afford) are often unexpected and expensive. I find it really dumb that there is no train route from my town to my college, only endless different roads you can take there. Public transportation is super limited around me as well, it is not a viable option and the people who use it need to go by its limited schedules. I would love to bike around more for local travel too, but there is no protection for bikers on roads so it is not very safe to do it. Part of me wants to to save money on gas, but I will have to be super careful. I've been thinking about getting a job closer to my house so at least it would be a quick bike ride despite not being very safe, maybe I'll do that. Like my car person needs would be satisfied if I could just drive on a track with some frequency, it's just not as fun when I have no other option to get around. Some people think cars give you freedom, but how free are you when you have no other viable transportation options and you need to dish out a lot of money just to travel?

@SgtKaito

2 жыл бұрын

@HoboGardenerBen You are very brave! There are lots of cars in my area and also lots of bad drivers, if the lack of safe bike spaces wasn't bad enough.

@Bru21424

2 жыл бұрын

Have tried working at home jobs

@SgtKaito

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bru21424 I looked before, there isn't much available unless you have experience in certain fields. That's why if I switch jobs I'll try to get a closer one, a short commute on a bike would be nice.

@jackmccarthy4047

2 жыл бұрын

They should make a policy saying there has to be adequate public transport to all colleges. Seems stupud to not have a service like that.

@SgtKaito

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackmccarthy4047 I agree, but I also might live out of range for that. My college is more rural than the town I live in, and in fact if I didn't transfer two years of community college to my current college I would be forced to live on campus for my first two years unless I lived within 25 miles of campus. I live 40 miles away. There are closer colleges, but they are much more pricier. Personally I think all main roads (or at least highways) should be replaced with trains, that should help a lot.

My town turned an old railroad line into a walkway and all the businesses on it have done great. I hope more cities do this.

@todddammit4628

2 жыл бұрын

What town is that? I'd love to see it.

@kathryncryts5537

2 жыл бұрын

That’s so cool!

@lightningbot85

2 жыл бұрын

cool that they turned it into a walkway instead of a highway, but we need more rail lines around the world. freight trains are insanely more efficient and clean then long range trucks. what would be perfect is to take away highways that go through and slit towns and cities, and put people/bike, and tram walkways, ad taking away stroads (people who don't know what those are should look it up, the Not Just Bikes KZread channel is a great resource about it) and instead making human focused streets with limited or no cars, only letting in emergency and a some needed delivery vehicles. Still, nice progress.

You hit the nail on the head as always. I work for a Canadian ENGO and it seems to me that all the funding and priority is geared to expand EVs as fast as possible. It is honestly maddening to know there are better solutions but the focus is on cars (that most people still can't afford to purchase even with government incentives).

@MannIchFindKeinName

2 жыл бұрын

same here in Germany. After/during the pandemic the gov got the economy welfare package ready, and their "investment into green stuff" was, jeah... a 5000€ payment if you get a new EV, with the cheapest ones being somewhere ~20.000€. But, that was the old gov, after government changes end of last year we got a green party leading now too, and due to ukraine its planned to give out 9€-monthly tickets for public transportation, for 3 month (9 for 90). Gonna be interesting what we see after that time, which one had more positive impacts etc.

@dougpatterson7494

2 жыл бұрын

As a fellow Canadian do you agree that the money being spent subsidising relatively affluent people to buy EVs would be better spent on improving public transit?

@3MTA3-

2 жыл бұрын

@@dougpatterson7494 It is the socialist way!! Take from the w orking class to give to the educated NIMBY elites!!

@JKTProductionzIncNCo

2 жыл бұрын

@@dougpatterson7494 I agree. For Canada, Urban area like Toronto, Vancouver, & Montreal should try to be as public transportation friendly as possible. If you need to go outside of that then fine use an ICE vehicle. Since let's be honest electric cars so far do not fair well in extremely cold temperatures. Also the whole thing about the electrical grid isn't really doable for the foreseeable future in Canada outside of the major cities.

@lrvogt1257

2 жыл бұрын

New tech always begins expensive and then... especially with electronics, the prices drop dramatically. The drive train of an EV uses 1/10 the number of parts and costs far less to operate and maintain than an ICE vehicle, so there is savings there but mass transit is very important where and when you can get governments to invest the tax money into the capital investment needed.

Another important thing: city centers have become increasingly more expensive places to live due to high rents, and apartment prices, pushing people into sprawling neighborhoods.

Cities need to do more to encourage people to ride bicycles. Safe protected bike lanes and trails are needed so adults and children can ride safely. Speak up for bicycles in your community. Bicycles make life and cities better.

@simony2801

2 жыл бұрын

I have no interest or intention of cycling to work, not interested in the slightest, I would rather pack up work and live off the state.

@Joesolo13

2 жыл бұрын

@@simony2801 I'm sorry for you.

@simony2801

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joesolo13 dont be.

@MrCrazyjoe259

2 жыл бұрын

@@simony2801 Just because you don't want to personally doesn't mean there shouldn't be the infrastructure for it. Why all the hate for cycling anyway?

@nastynick7125

Жыл бұрын

@@MrCrazyjoe259 im scared for biking not because i don’t like it because its a lot of people that drive like they’re playing mario kart

Awesome video! Car centric culture is definitely something I want to see challenged in the U.S. I'm curious whether you'll do a video on trucks. I've heard those can't be easily electrified and yet we depend so heavily on trucks to transport materials and goods. I imagine re-localizing our economies would help but I just wondered if you had any thoughts on that.

@jackmccarthy4047

2 жыл бұрын

There is a company in Australia called Janus trucks or something like that. They are turning normal trucks to electric in I think 3 days. So seems like they solved the issue.

@thijmstickman8349

2 жыл бұрын

Don't know about relocalizing economies, a good traveling from one side of a country to another on a truck has way more polluting effects and carbon emissions when compared to it going around the world on a container ship (industry of scale) I think this video describes the solution really well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kW1km6abf8XSprg.html

@betafractal9395

2 жыл бұрын

You should watch this kzread.info/dash/bejne/kW1km6abf8XSprg.html and this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZ19k6Oco63Sibg.html by The Armchair Urbanist. He explains how trucks are terrible for transporting goods and reasons we should use trains instead for transporting goods and people.

@KarolaTea

2 жыл бұрын

There's experiments with adding overhead wires to some highways for trucks. (I think Tom Scott made a video about one of them.) But yeah, as other people said, trucks aren't the best way for transporting goods for long distances. I'd be interested to hear about solutions for last mile transportation though! The German postal service has been using electric vehicles (in cities at least) for a while now, but they're barely large enough to be called a "truck" and I guess letters and parcels aren't the heaviest haha. I wonder about transporting things like building materials and such.

I grew up in a suburban town and required a car for getting anything done. It was only after moving to the east bay area was I able to truly utilize public transportation and living on a town built around people. It is so nice being able to take the bus or ride my bike to anywhere I need to go.

I’ve vowed to never own a car. I might hire one when I’m moving stuff or on holiday in the French mountains, but 95% of the year, I want nothing to do with cars. Luckily, I live in the Netherlands and work in microbiology, so I can get around with my bike and public transport without much issue. I hope others want to and can live like me too, soon.

@GTAVictor9128

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I've been so far too lazy to obtain a driving license, but living in car-centric Ireland, many jobs require a driving license so I will probably get it eventually as it's very limiting not to have it.

@filipstojanovski1675

2 жыл бұрын

meanwhile, i live in a rural area that doesn't have public transport right now, and when it did, it was 2-3 times a day. It just doesn't work. They're not gonna dedicate a full bus for a handful of people.

@piccolo917

2 жыл бұрын

@@filipstojanovski1675 that's why I added the "can" in the last sentence. I don't think rural areas will ever be fully integrated via public transport because of what you mentioned. But when looking at how many people live there vs. in more urban areas, I think it's logical that people in rural areas have personal transport. It's just more economical and ecologically that way.

@TheBandit7613

2 жыл бұрын

Have 12 cars, trucks, and a couple vintage Jeeps. I'm not giving them up.

@jbar_85

2 жыл бұрын

I live about 7 miles from my office and live in south Florida. The heat and humidity is suffering for 9 months so biking 14 miles round trip a day is hot feasible.

As a car enthusiast, I don’t want to envision a carless world, but I do agree that we need better public transportation. It benefits everyone, car enthusiasts and non-car-people alike. If cars could be purely a choice and not a necessity, then car enthusiasts would be free to drive whatever fun car they want without worrying about practicality, and everyone else would be able to spend that money on other things. Plus fewer cars on the road would mean better driving conditions for those with cars, and potentially fewer regulations because they’re no longer necessary. There’s no need to get rid of all the roads that currently exist. Trams, trains, and buses can both save car culture and give us a greener future.

I really want to see a lot more public transportation where I live

@Ascend777

2 жыл бұрын

rails are 3x more efficient than bus. faster too. and not dependent on lithium nor oil.

@miles5600

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ascend777 Your right but for short trips, the bus would be more efficient

@allws9683

2 жыл бұрын

You should demand basic retail and services in your proximity, so you can walk/bike there. decentralized schools en sport sites. 15 minute city environments .

The city I'm from, Olympia Washington, also made all public transportation free. Bus fares made up so little of their income, that they decided to just get rid of them. It is, admittedly, a small city with just a bus system--no trains (a really good bus system, tho)

@DanielBrklyn

2 жыл бұрын

Can one live without a car in Olympia?

I really love the sentiment about basing transport around people and not cars. I would also like to see your take on the Midwest and its car dependency, and how we might go about addressing that. I love your work and your content and you’re a very special creator for touching these subjects that nobody else seems to want to!

@quattrobajeena1689

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the Midwest. I live in a village of little more than 1,000. There's a highway right through the middle and it sounds like a city.

They are better than regular cars, but can’t beat trains or buses

@SaveMoneySavethePlanet

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Let’s build a robust public transportation system which can handle 80% of our travel needs. There will always be a handful of special circumstances so people can use EVs when those come up. But EVs should absolutely not be 100% of transportation.

@knosis

2 жыл бұрын

@@SaveMoneySavethePlanet tell that to the @usdot

Conservatives: Blood for oil! Liberals: let's make it green, 'Blood for lithium!' I just want some sweet infrastructure where I use my vehicle only on the weekends or if I want to go camping or out to a smaller town.

@ecoRfan

2 жыл бұрын

Going from “Invade Iraq” (Dems supported it too) to “Invade Bolivia”

@Lily-ni5po

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if you could take a high speed electric train to do that too.

@ecoRfan

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lily-ni5po all aboard for Bolivia

@Lily-ni5po

2 жыл бұрын

@@ecoRfan electric trains don't require batteries, so no lithium needed, just a track connected to electricity. Granted it is not always possible to have a connected track, but we should invest into creating an electric train system wherever it can go. This would be a much better way to travel out of cities or across countries.

@sdb2885

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lily-ni5po most trains require subsidies. If you overspent then you end up with debt and then you have to impose austerity. That is the disaster that Spain, Ireland, Portugal, Grece faced. Even the Swiss railway sistem needs a 30% subsidy. And we are talking general trains, bullet trains are prohibitly expensive We need to find solutions that are economically viable. Ridesharing apps for example are used a lot in europe because they are much cheaper than train and for longer travels there are cheap airplane flights.

10:26 3.5GW is about the same as one large nuclear or offshore wind plant. And this is only peak demand, not sustained demand. The National Grid has also said that it can handle the increase in demand and that with the advent of V2G 2-way charging, EVs will actually be a huge storage resource for a clean grid powered by intermittent renewables.

@jamesgrover2005

2 жыл бұрын

And anyway batteries should be charged off peak.

@Praisethesunson

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesgrover2005 very little about human action is reflected by what people should do.

@SeeNickView

2 жыл бұрын

Can confirm. Vehicle-to-Grid is an important capability that EVs have since they vehicles can offer many services to the grid like: - Frequency/voltage regulation - Load shifting - Storage (obviously). Add on to the fact that many people could own EVs in a given society, meaning that the total EV force represents a form of distributed energy storage that can dynamically supplement the storage of more fixed/centralized storage resources. Despite those benefits, EVs still wouldn't be entirely reliable given that they require the stability of the grid everywhere (as opposed to fixed/centralized storage points that can more easily be managed for single/low reconnections to a downed grid), and they still require tons of material resources at the detriment of other countries and peoples. You could just as easily have that distributed resource capability fixed in place at people's houses and connected to residential solar PV or wind, and electrified/hybrid public transit. Fixing the battery as opposed to making it mobile via cars allows for different technologies to shine that can stratify building resources, like Redox Flow batteries, some of the other Li-ion batteries not optimized for driving like Metal-Air or Metal-Lithium, fuel cells with pumps and hydrogen/oxygen stores, thermal energy storage via phase-change materials like water/ice, etc. You can diversify the battery type by not making it portable, which decreases demand on any few given types of chemical elements.

@joeb4294

2 жыл бұрын

True, and EVs will slowly replace ICEs. Moving away from gasoline will also free up electric grid capacity. The grid will be fine.

@junelawson5719

2 жыл бұрын

That seems like a regressive solution, having individual people spend thousands of dollars to stabilize the grid rather than society investing in nuclear baseload generation

the average number of passengers for a 4-seat car is usually about... 1.2. people are thinking mining for metals and minerals is just causing some co2 emissions so it's no big deal, when in fact, the issue is that there is a whole lot of issues that come with mining, including huge amounts of toxic pollution, human misery for all people who lose their land and homes to mining companies, and of course environmental destruction, as lands used for mining, more often than not, are rendered incompatible with any form of vegetation, let alone animals. electric cars only add more problems due to the additional metals needed for their production. if we are anywhere as smart as we love to pretend we are, we will move away from personal cars entirely, and promote mass transportation, but also lighter mobility solutions such as electric bikes and the such. but i doubt it will happen anytime soon, or in any case, soon enough to diminish the impact of what's to come in the next decades.

@DarkDeepGreen

2 жыл бұрын

Well said

@glowiever

2 жыл бұрын

car has become more than a transportation it's a lifestyle. so human behavior modification is required, which is a great feat in itself.

@Thinginator

2 жыл бұрын

The whole concept of relatively wealthy western countries demanding “cheap” electric cars and causing suffering through mining in poorer countries to get them is downright dystopian.

If you’d ever ridden on the London Underground you’d know why it’s carbon footprint per person was so small. Even if it emits lots of carbon, the trains are so packed every single day at every hour, sharing that carbon footprint amongst so many people is bound to lower it. However, a lot of these journeys are so short, less than a mile, people would be better off walking, and they could easily do that, but don’t. If they did, the carbon out put per person of the underground would be much higher

@davidty2006

2 жыл бұрын

Been electric since 1903. For the most part.

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

I think the magic is regenerative braking. While in EVs or hybrids you'd need a big battery to recover the electricities, on a electrified rail the frequency so high that the power is straight up used by the train right behind yours. And you trains stop and go less frequent than your cars, which also means less energy usage.

@BenM460

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidty2006 The London Underground? What planet are you referring to? For a start, the UK only gets 10% of its fuel from renewable sources... The trains run all night and all day. Go figure!

@elliotpollard9083

2 жыл бұрын

@@BenM460 I think you're confusing energy and electricity - in 2020 the national grid was nearly 50% from renewables and over 60% including nuclear. Valid point about walking between stops - the pavements always seem to be busy though, would need to remove a car lane and increase the width of pavement :)

@plainText384

2 жыл бұрын

Now with covid, this is definitely a downside for public transit, but normally that's what makes them so great.

Hey! I really like this episode. I feel that recent videos have been transitioning to a very doomed mindset, whereas this one addresses a lot of solutions, and important accessibility aspects of public transit that have to accompany reduced emissions if it's to become a viable alternative. Love it!

@Bru21424

2 жыл бұрын

Well he can't avoid that most of the time, this is a very serious issue

@8lec_R

2 жыл бұрын

I'll take the gloom over ignoring the issue and pretending we will figure everything out. Also, if you watch OCC through a Marxist lens, none of his videos are about doom and gloom. Most countries in this world need their own revolutions which focuses on re-structuring society equitably and using our resources in the least wasteful manner possible. That is the only sure-fire way to end the climate crisis with the least amount of deaths. But unfortunately cuz KZread is KZread and many of the audience are scared off by the slightest mention of revolution, OCC won't say anything. He's smart and if you know what he's talking about you'll see he proposes solutions indirectly, you just need the correct lens.

@Bru21424

2 жыл бұрын

@@8lec_R but hasn't he proposed a revolution before?

@manuelsalinas5705

2 жыл бұрын

I highly suggest you check out his video about radical hope. It might give you hope.

@Bru21424

2 жыл бұрын

@@manuelsalinas5705 oh I already saw that

Most of the emissions and materials problems with cars also apply to wind and solar farms. Endless mining. Energy costs of production. Exploitation of workers. Why can't anyone even consider the idea of using less energy?

@GTAVictor9128

2 жыл бұрын

Because capitalism demands infinite growth, so the economy must keep growing no matter what, otherwise it is a recession.

@iamnohere

2 жыл бұрын

@@GTAVictor9128 I: Yeah - and that´s why capitalism needs to go

@ernststravoblofeld

2 жыл бұрын

@@GTAVictor9128 Well, when the oil runs out, it won't ask the capitalists' permission.

Thanks for all the info. I signed up for CuriousityStream with free Nebula. Looking forward to viewing the extended video on how to improve transportation.

Public transit was gutted by the car industry. The electric street cars in Chicago were paved over or planters put in the middle of roads where they had them. Amazing , there was a system built already and it was destroyed. Public transit only works when : clean, safe, runs efficiently and often. Also like the video says , once you get off the train cities have to be built for people , not cars. The car industry today controls almost everything... think 🤔 about it...

cars are just not efficient for urban areas. Public transport, walking, and cycling are the best ways to get around. Thats where we need to invest

@SaveMoneySavethePlanet

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. While my city isn’t the best at these currently, I actually become super inspired when I peruse the website describing the projects which are currently in the works. Lots of bike paths and new metro routes that they’re working to bring online within the next 10 years. Wish it would be faster though

The dependence on cars built by GM, Ford, and other auto industry magnates put humanity on a fast-paced death march. Better solutions exist, we must adopt efficient public transit.

@denelson83

2 жыл бұрын

The auto industry will stop Americans from attempting to expand public transit.

@RacefanPat68

2 жыл бұрын

Where practical, but it cannot solve but a fraction of transport needs.

I would absolutely LOVE more public transport. I try to cluster errands and driving as much as possible, but there are plenty of times in which it would be easy enough to carry a bag or two on a bus or subway. It’s ridiculous.

Love your videos and, truly, EVs can't save us. But, in earnest, I wonder where those of us that live in rural spaces should turn. I have a small farm and need to procure livestock feed, lumber, and other large commodities on a fairly regular basis. I could bike from my farm to work in town during the warm months but I live in Wisconsin. How do I travel in winter? I understand that millions of people live in cities/suburbs but the blindspot for rural folks doesn't improve the opinion that climate activists are urban elites.

@Joesolo13

2 жыл бұрын

Rural farms will always have a need for vehicles. Yall are a commercial operation when it comes down to it, you're not what urbanists are talking about when they say most people don't/shouldn't need cars. It's about people in cities or suburbs that have a car they drive exactly 1 person around in, to places many other people are traveling to and from.

Really great video, I feel your in a good path. I think that the next step to this would be talk about degrowth, circular economy and cradle-to-cradle. I read the book about c2c, they're pretty liberal about the concept but I think it's time for us to start pulling it into a more realistic pov: It won't work without state intervention

Great video! Btw, in the wakanda take, you can see a train in the background =)

My biggest gripe with this no car thing is that you can’t bring as much groceries or items with you in general by walking/using public transportation/cycling. With a personal car, you can bring much more items with you as long as it fits inside, and you won’t have to go out for groceries as often. And there is also the luxury of personal ac, definitely beats having to be exposed to hot and cold temperatures, or having to share the ac of public transport with some random sweaty or sick passengers of whom you don’t know.

@user-gu9yq5sj7c

Жыл бұрын

Watch Not Just Bikes on groceries. He advocates for building walkable cities so people can stop by the store easier and make more frequent trips. He said many people buy too much and there's too much food waste. People shouldn't be forced to drive and spend on gas just to get groceries cause the store is too far.

At some point, we will be recycling batteries enough to significantly slow down mining. You can't recycle oil. The biggest problem I see with cars in general is the tires. No matter how clean a car is it will still go through tires.

@jimzecca3961

2 жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but I do believe that a lot of waste oil is recycled.

@rodfatherfishing9223

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimzecca3961 the real problem with oil is that it leaks. In your car it leaks at the refinery it leaks pipelines leak and oil spills at drill sights happen frequently. You won't se dawn make a commercial about their products cleaning up lithium or nickel.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimzecca3961 You are not wrong. Here in the UK, we now have a growing move towards recycling old cooking oil (from hotels, cafes, restaurants etc) to produce bio-diesel for vehicles.....

For rush hour the subway usually as a 3 minute, sometimes even a 2 minute interval here. Bus and tram lines instead do double or tripple duties in areas of high demands with something like 5-7 minute intervals for each line and thus rarely more than 3 minutes of wait time. This trick allows to have still pretty decent intervals on the outskirts of the city with less demand and combines capacity downtown. And that leaves still some things to improve for sure. But it certainly beats taking the car even without any congestions.

A monthly pass for the metro rail system in L.A. where I live cost $144 the last time I checked which is almost three times more expensive than the cost of riding my 150cc scooter 10 miles to and from work five days a week including insurance even with the current inflated gas prices. On top of that, I have only one chance each afternoon to catch the train home for the whole night. It's disappointing how lacking the public transit services are here. I'd much rather take a quiet and safe train ride to work than continue risking my neck driving the statistically lethal streets of L.A.

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

It seems like LA had a lot of trouble to get sufficient funding, so a light rail system of that large is impressive imho. But it's just unfortunate. A city of that size should easily have a proper metro with at least a few lines, together with at least hourly suburb trains and solid bus feeder network, not "light rails". In Asia only cities in less developed countries with a financially weak government would allow LA's situation to happen, but even those cities are getting ODAs and improving.

@zf8604

2 жыл бұрын

Another issue with LA metro is its lack of safety or at least it’s perception of it…the smell and look of buses near DTLA are not at ALL safe or comfortable after the 9-5s go to work. It’s full of trash, people who are homeless, and those who are mentally disabled. This is an issue because it not only scares off potential riders but also just gives politicians an excuse to no expansion/funding into public transit. Obviously without free medical care, solid public housing policies, and a greater social society net the homeless will continue to sleep on buses, criminals will continue to have petty theft on trains, and public transit will continue to be infrequent, unreliable, and unwelcoming.

As far as global pollution goes, cars aren't even close to being a big part of the problem, they're just one that's easy to see due to them being everywhere. The 15 biggest container ships produce more emissions than all the cars in the world, as do electrical devices which are consuming power but not being used.

@uni4rm

2 жыл бұрын

Dont worry, everyone will mostly ignore this comment, because they've jumped on the big oil hype train with "carbon footprint", "recycling", and now cars. Always the focus to fix problems is tamping down on the actions of individuals, when big industry and government is the main source of pollution and destruction. None of the pollution and problems are solved by those ideas, because they were all invented by transportation and oil companies who could care less about the planet and more about getting us to look the other way while they profit.

@sprockkets

10 ай бұрын

Don't forget Elon Musk's private jet lol.

OCC hitting the nail on the head, even without mentioning the pleathers of negative externalities of automobile dependency. Urban heat islands, particulate pollution, noise pollution, light pollution, deforestation, habitat destruction, and hydrological drainage to name a few.

I’m actually working to move my family to having only one car instead of two. I’ll move onto using an e bike and the train to get to work while my wife will use our EV. I’m lucky though because I live and work in a situation which makes this possible. 1st world cities need to invest like crazy in public transit so that more people can have this option as well. Many families will even be able to go completely car free!

@Ascend777

2 жыл бұрын

rails, not bus. no one likes bus.

@SaveMoneySavethePlanet

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ascend777 agreed. Buses really only work for trips that are 5 miles or less. Anyone that is looking for something for their actual commute will want an option that’s on a rail. Ideally mixed with a quality bike path to make it easy/safe to get to and from the station.

@waz1077

2 жыл бұрын

In London buses are quite popular

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

Actually railways combined with the dense development is cheaper than building highway, because fewer infrastructures are needed. In Japan one of the biggest incentives of compact city development is the huge snow removal cost that comes with urban sprawling.

6:33 Instead of “car-less” my wife and I opted to call ourselves CAR-FREE. Car-less could connote a deficiency, deficient in an “essential” car. Also on browsing could be mistaken for CARELESS, also a negative vibe. Car-free (carefree), is an unshackling, an unburdening. A heck of a lot less expensive.

aside from what is mentioned in this video, theres another hurdle to public transportation that i don't see discussed as often. how the rise of the gas-powered vehicle and the huge focus on independence and individualism in north america have normalized a lifestyle that the vast majority of people have become accustomed with and even identify strongly with. there is something to that sense of independence and individuality that not requiring much physical energy to travel vast distances, and having the freedom, space and time that an average vehicle affords that will be difficult for a lot of people to give up. also the luxury of directly interacting with as little people as possible on a daily basis is something that a lot of people cherish, whether they're aware of it or not. something like that is so abstract to address so i hope that that by addressing cost, infrastructure, accessibility, comfort, zoning, etc, that public transit can one day counteract it. i guess at the end of the day it really isn't to get literally everyone to take public transit but to make it a much more easily accessible and appealing that if they can, the vast majority choose it over the comforts of jumping in a car and just cruisin' to where you need to go

@uni4rm

2 жыл бұрын

Except Western Europe also has a streak of individualism and they have vast public transportation systems. If cars weren't necessary then every person wouldn't see them as a necessity and only people who saw them as a hobby or collectable fun thing would get them. Say, like boats for example. Anyone can buy a boat, and for awhile in the US, it was a good way to get around. But is it necessary in the 21st century? Nope.

@SingKahKah

2 жыл бұрын

@@uni4rm oh yeah for sure, nit saying its not possible just coupled with the absurd infrastructure and lack of robust public transit for decades and decades, a lot of ppl in north america will have a hard time letting go of their current lifestyle unless some rly huge changes are made

@danielkelly2210

2 жыл бұрын

Personal vehicle dominance in the US will continue until it's no longer economically feasible. I think even the most die-hard anti-transit types would reconsider if operating a car took say, 40-50% of their income.

@VegitoBlue202

Жыл бұрын

I'm only taking transit for short term trips and errands as for leisure (barring clubs) I'm taking a car.

Here in Sweden, we have been emphasizing a diversified approached for a long time. Our mass transit systems are much cleaner, integrated with all modes, and popular compared with the US. our bike paths are separated from traffic, except in the very core of the cities. Hop-on, hop-off electric scooters are almost a nuisance. Electric bikes are knee savers. And, Swedes rather enjoy walking. America's problem is how the automobile permitted extensive urban sprawl, such that cars are almost a necessity for many. That being the case, EVs are the lesser of many evils given spatial and time considerations. Sadly, our cities are beginning to sprawl out too, as big companies have _mall fever_ and they place them ever further out. On-line shopping and delivery by EV would replace a lot of car trips, except for a childish demand to have that product as fast as humanly possible, and thus there are too many delivery vehicles driving with small loads. Moral: Curb our appetites, nuture better patience. (From an expat who left the US 40 years ago and never regretted it.)

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

I'd never forget how shocked I was when I saw a 8-lane highway in LA all pack with cars, exactly looks like the Lalaland opening. I'm even more shocked to know, after returning from the trip, that LA is actually the top 10 densest city in US, which is mind blowing. I lived in Hong Kong for some time after moving to Tokyo. These are what I consider dense (well, Tokyo is not even dense in global standard actually). Swedish cities are small but quite compact as well.

@DanielBrklyn

2 жыл бұрын

Sweden is great, I wish US could be like Sweden but they are vastly different. US is much more similar to Brazil, Mexico, South Africa than any country in Europe. The issues facing Los Angeles are much closer to the issues facing Mexico City and Sao Paulo then Stockholm.

@adamthomson922

Жыл бұрын

You're mostly just describing our big cities though, the rest of Sweden is hardly like that at all though.

Thanks for the video :)

Here is the reality. Public transportation will not save you in the US either, because Big Business is vehemently and bitterly opposed to it. They would rather sell more cars and more oil. Remember that the US used to have really good public transportation, back in the first half of the 20th Century, but big automobile companies exterminated that and replaced it with a highway network and an appetite for cars instead.

@DarkDeepGreen

2 жыл бұрын

That's why another political system is needed. One without oligarchs.

@denelson83

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkDeepGreen The oligarchs will not let the current system go.

@DarkDeepGreen

2 жыл бұрын

@@denelson83 That's true, I agree with your comment. But it' s possible for the people to change the system, people just need to take action against it.

@VegitoBlue202

Жыл бұрын

​@@DarkDeepGreen the people won't and if we do we would literally become a pariah state unless we ally with China.......

As someone who is a big supporter of muscle cars, used to own one, and likely need to own one again in the future, believe me when I say this. How much I love cars, and what they can do, and even how they sound, I would rather take a train or transit system to a local or even far away destination far more than I would want to take my car. Trains and local transport brings people together far more than anything else, and cost far less than trying to force everyone in a car. We shouldn't have to be forced to purchase/use cars, how nice it is to take a night drive and be behind a wheel while feeling "free" I cannot deny that driving is still a hassle, and I would still rather sit on a train allowing myself to contemplate and see views I wouldn't normally in a car, because I can be distracted, I'm the one being taken to a new destination.

@autohmae

2 жыл бұрын

Some have said: we should transition to an Uber-like service of self-driving EV cars. And no car-ownership: this would mean 90% less cars would have to be produced and people don't have to deal with traffic, the self-driving system does this. And still you would have the door-to-door experience.

@Joesolo13

2 жыл бұрын

@@trtrhr How many times have you been shot at in your car? I never have been. In years of working on cars I've seen exactly one out of tens of thousands with bullet holes in it.

I would've agreed 500% with this overview presented... If we all lived in cities, big metropolitan areas and respective suburbs and nearbies. But we don't not all countries and territories are geographically populated as London/Greater London, not all territories are viable for public transportation usage. So, in many regions, the car will still be the best option for transportation and personal/population needs.

I really liked this video, great job!

Can you do a video on fresh water and drinking water and it’s catastrophic effects of ignoring it …. Please it’s a topic overlooked by all … looking forward to your videos ..love them … keep them coming …love your work Much love from India

love the video. huge car nut and you hit the nail on the head-our issue isn’t just the vehicle itself, rather, it’s the structure of our society. electric cars still require road work! however, i now have one consideration now that i’m part of the demographic. how should this apply to rural communities? i’m a 4 hour drive from the closest metropolitan area. there’s 6000 people in the town-i wonder if the emissions cost of changing small rural areas’ infrastructures relative to their small population is worth the shift? or if the cars around town are still the more effective solution?

@crimsonghost4107

2 жыл бұрын

Mixed zoning so that you have to drive less. Businesses and schools located right next to residential areas so that you can just walk or bike wherever you have to go for the most part. Then people would only need to use their cars for longer trips.

@MCatwar

2 жыл бұрын

@@crimsonghost4107 yes this is what my small town is. I bike everywhere in town, obviously if I'm not using my truck to pick something up or move something etc. It takes longer for me to drive to work. I bike 5 minutes to work, or I walk down to the parking lot, start my truck, let it sit for like 5 minutes, hit every light or wait to cross main street, and its upwards of 10 minutes just to get there. It's utterly useless. A small town is the best mixed zoning there is because necessity forced it. My original comment was moreso about whether or not it would be beneficial for small rural towns to undergo massive infrastructure changes relative to their population and how little they already drive.

@haniyasu8236

2 жыл бұрын

@@MCatwar mid-range train lines like Amtrak are a pretty good potential solution if expanded a little bit. High speed rail project ideas have been thrown around a lot in political circles for a while now, and they could certainly help out with use cases likes yours. *However*, I'm honestly not too convinced that it'd really be *that* much of a problem anyways. I don't really know the specific numbers, but I'd say that the vast majority of car emissions probably comes from shipping and commuting in cities and not occasional road trips. And I feel like transporting between rural communities and cities would be the legit use case for cars in a greener future (esp if they were EVs).

People keep looking for saviors. There is no savior. Only revolt of millions will solve this.

@DarkDeepGreen

2 жыл бұрын

💚

Such a good take 👍👍👍👍

Thanks for making this video and some of the other videos here I've watched after 'discovering' your channel. I've contemplated writing about some of these topics, and have done so to an extent on Quora, but it hasn't been until recently that I've seen high visibility channels with content talking frankly about some of these topics. I've been harping about two of them to friends, loved ones and neighbors for years, namely that EVs won't save us from climate change, and that billionaires won't either, and I'm just now starting to see these ideas reflected on channels like yours, which is encouraging. Yours is also one of the few channels I've seen that treats the topic by looking at a more practical measure than MPGe, g CO2 per passenger mile or kilometer. That said, I'm a little disappointed that e-bikes (actually, just bikes) were a split-second footnote in your video. While it is laudable that public transportation can produce as low as 50 g CO2/mile, it is worth noting that that is only with a full bus or train; when trains or buses are empty, as they often are when operating outside of the busiest times of day, their emissions rates are abyssmal. Bikes and e-bikes, on the other hand produce between ~2-7 g CO2 per passenger mile while being orders of magnitude cheaper and requiring far fewer emissions to produce, even when factoring in infrastructure. No other form of transportation, including trains, can surpass or even compare to an e-bike in terms of urban emissions savings, and unlike in the case of trains and buses, the emission rate is much more consistent. And with CoVID-19 out there, some of us aren't too keen on being cooped up with other humans in a metal box for half an hour to an hour or more (I used to ride public transit quite a lot). Not that I'm bashing public transit or even EVs--I just think e-bikes are a higher priority and easier solution to transportation emissions, followed by public transportation and then (solar) EVs. Of course working remotely and other means of removing transportation from the equation altogether whereever possible are an even higher priority.

Thank you for this! We need to move away from auto-centric urban areas and move to public transit, cycling and walking. Yes, some people "need" cars - small towns, rural areas, those with mobility issues, the elderly - I get it. But most people in urban areas don't need cars. I have arranged my life to be car-free, and I'm nothing special, I assure you!

I'm all for it. I also think we need to connect our urban areas with railways. I would travel so much more if I could just hop on a train and get there. It sucks how literally everywhere I go I need to drive.

In Durham NC where I reside, GoDurham & GoTriangle are free since the Covid-19 pandemic in 2020 & I hope it stays that way forever. Neighboring Chapel Hill has free bus 2 decades ago waaaaaaaaay before the current pandemic took place.

What's the name of the song in the beginning of the video?

One thing that isnt mentioned consistently in these types of videos is i dont think that public transport is the answer to decarbonisation and ridding the world of cars. Speaking to alot of people that drive cars, even when it doesnt make sense, whether that be financially or time wise, it is because they value having their own personal space too much. Most middle class people that can afford a decent car wouldnt consider getting on a crowded bus where their personal space is constantly invaded. We need an alternative solution that would get these people out of their cars, i think smaller and lighter individualised transportation would be a fantastic alternative that would consume less resources and atleast be more efficient then a car.

@mooreanonumbers

2 жыл бұрын

I see a lot of people putting all EVs in the same bag and I think that's a very misguided approach. You can't compare a Tesla Model X to an electric bike, or even a Citroen Ami. The car industry keeps selling cars that are bigger and more powerful every year but that's not what individual transportation has to be like.

we need to nationalize our rail network in the us to help make this possible

@davidty2006

2 жыл бұрын

Well atleast the track. To make sure passenger trains get priority over freight.

@Joesolo13

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidty2006 Yea I'd love to see a well-organized new Conrail (it's last vestige actually lives on in my area), but nationalizing the track is a good middle ground. More areas need to be double tracked or more to allow for passenger service without freight interference.

Public transportation flat out will not work in suburbs. Huge sections of urban areas are suburbs and suburbs are just way too spread out. There is no way this can be changed in ten or twenty years (not without immense cost). In the mean time carbon from burning fossil fuels continues to accumulate in the atmosphere. In the mean time we do not have to go to other countries for lithium, we already have some here (as does Canada). There is a geothermal energy plant by the Salton sea in southern California (note the Salton sea is currently fairly toxic from evaporation over the years and farm runoff) that uses hot underground brine water to generate electricity. That hot underground water happens to be loaded with minerals (obviously: lots of hard water in the southwest) and one of those minerals is lithium, and quite a bit of it! One estimate is that there is enough lithium there to meet all of the United States needs, and forty percent of the world! President Joe Biden has already invoked the Wartime Production Act to get companies to investigate environmentally friendly ways to extract lithium in the United States. There is a similar situation for cobalt and nickel from coal mine waste (coal mine tailings). In this case it could be double win with the removal of these toxic waste sites. The Washington Post recently had an article on this (as did others) [WP: 'In coal country, a new chance to clean up a toxic legacy']. Since coal mine tailings have minerals we should also look at the fly ash left over after burning coal: it also may have strategic minerals.

Wow, thanks for this video. This is so close to my research and extremely close to my conclusions. My field is Economics. I hope this happens, but I can see a massive hindrance in the form of automobile industry.

No mention of remote work. This has substantially increased during the pandemic to the point where downtowns are still struggling to get people back into the office. Fewer emissions working from home than commuting, I can guarantee. Also, I wonder how many emissions there walking, and biking vs taking a car to get you to your location faster, or through a subway and bus.

Fun Fact: Electric cars are almost 200 years old, the first crude electric car was made in 1832

@todddammit4628

2 жыл бұрын

True, but led-acid batteries were never capable of rivaling the energy density of gasoline.

@davidty2006

2 жыл бұрын

Thats electric vehicles in general technically. With some early experiments and full on use of 3rd rail and cantanery in the late 1800's

@mooreanonumbers

2 жыл бұрын

The electric car history is quite fascinating. More recently several manufacturers had decent EVs in 90s for city/peri-urban use but most of them were seen as useless novelties by the general public. GM's EV1 was very promising in particular but GM sabotaged the project and recalled every one of them after they realised it was just easier to make money by producing endless lines of ICE trucks and SUVs.

Wonderful video! Thank you for this 🙏 This is what I've been saying for some time now and it makes me happy to see other people thinking along the same lines.

no one's gonna see this but this has given me great inspiration for my speech for my English coursework. originally I wanted to focus on just the good side of electric cars since I did believe they were the future but this video has sort of changed my mind I'm more in the middle like there good they do something's good but like all most all things they have a down side. Honestly really good video I'm probably gonna pick out a few statistics and maybe research some quotes and just kinda wing my speech hope I do well.

All for electric cars but 5,000 lbs plus cars or SUV seems counterintuitive. Smaller battery but w better charging infrastructure and try to getaway from thinking you need a 400 mi range car. Also public transportation! Bike lanes! Metro! Bullet trains! Better urban design!

@Joesolo13

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, hopefully 3 and 400 mile EVs are a short lived phenomenon. With good charging infrastructure along highways and at diners and malls, you only really need 200 miles and change before people start getting hungry and wanting a break. Personally I don't really care to sit in a car for more than around 3 hours straight, and even a 15 minute break at that point can add a lot of charge back on current designs.

@jimzecca3961

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Joesolo13 I think you need to have the range to drive a large vehicle 5-6 hours minimally at highway speeds in all weather (while blasting heat in the winter, AC in the summer) without recharging and with the ability to fully recharge in under 30 minutes before a lot of people will consider changing out an ICE vehicle unless they can afford a separate EV for their commuter/every day car and something else for longer trips. The other thing that needs to change is every parking place needs to become a charging station (wireless charging someday?) because you can't tie up one of only a dozen or two spots "at the pumps" at a gas station for 30-60 minutes.

I drove two small EVs from 2016 to 2020 and they are definitely great cars. And they do have a lot of obvious upsides until you really think deeply about the whole idea of private car ownership and realise it’s disastrous even with much cleaner EVs. But the fact that they’re so good to drive and own makes the job of trying to get people to realise they’re not the answer incredibly difficult. Which is also disastrous since we need a rapid phase out of car ownership in all forms. The climate is getting away from us super quickly and only the most “drastic” measures can help now. And obviously most countries are not even trying to accommodate cycling and micromobility like e-scooters. So for me that’s why car ownership has to go immediately, because then we can use those much emptier streets for cycling and buses.

@recyclespinning9839

2 жыл бұрын

That would be great to be able to cycle and go anywhere you want on bike. .

@nastynick7125

Жыл бұрын

bro it’ll be like the old days when i was kid and i used to be outside with my friends with scooters and bikes mannn i miss being a kid but i also love cars

@christill

Жыл бұрын

@@nastynick7125 If the cars were gone, I think you’d quickly realise how much better you had it as a kid.

It's actually quite easy: For any vehicle you calculate the amount of mass that has to be moved per person. The vehicle with the least extra mass that needs to be moved is the most environmentally friendly one. Mostly that's your feet, followed by any kind of bike (be it muscle-powered or powered by electricity). The second question then is if it's a viable option for the thing you need to do. If it isnt public transport becomes an option - but an empty bus is just as much of a problem as an almost empty car, so demand must be high (due to "natural" demand or incentives like low fares)

10:24 - It says electric vehicles could lift UK electricity demand by 3.5GW without any mention of the general electricity demand in the UK. Regular demand is over 300.000 GW - If the 3.5GW number is correct, I feel pretty confident that the UK can handle the increased demand.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

If the UK's oil refineries - which produce 14 million gallons of petrol and 11 million gallons of diesel per day - operated at much less capacity (say just 25%) which may of course happen if we're all driving EV's, then that alone would reduce the demand on the UK'd grid hugely. It has been estimated that the UK's refineries use enough electricity to charge 3.29 million electric cars every day...... The National Grid state there will be no problems. They anticipate around 9 million EV's on Britain's roads by 2030, and 30 million by 2040......

Urban planning is more important than just implementing public transport, if housing is socialized and people are given a home instead of purchasing, the need for long distance transportations on daily activities will be diminished extensively, people will just need to walk or cycle towards their destinations, creating a far lower carbon footprint. Unfortunately, this is only achievable in socialist economy where communities take over the means of production and decisions, not in a capitalist free market world.

@steinwaldmadchen

2 жыл бұрын

One way is urban planning. Encourage the rail companies to develop properties along the rail, so they make a positive feedback to the ridership. Discourage development outside designated areas. Another way is to separate infrastructure from operations. Let's face it, in US most roads and airports are subsidised by the Fed, while rails have to be owed by rail companies themselves. Building and maintaining any infrastructures are prohibitively expensive. Why not build the rail by public fund, let train companies operate on it and ask them to pay for right-of-way just like turnpikes. European are doing that way, so as some new railways here in Japan.

@liasonlee1248

2 жыл бұрын

@@steinwaldmadchen not good enough, communities should do lesser long distance travelling, rails are mostly for logistical purpose, it is way more efficient to develop around the hubs than along the railways. And since railways are essential to communities, they shouldn't be run by private companies, it should have been owned by the communities/people.

@cakeisyummy5755

2 жыл бұрын

"Amsterdam doesn't exist, Delft doesn't exist, the Netherlands don't exist."

Well, I've seen enough and read enough about EV's now to tell you that if you use "whole of life" emissions to compare EV's to ice cars then EV's ( using the average life of 180,000 miles driven ) are still overall higher emitters by around 10%. That is because an EV is massively more polluting to create and dispose of. Even Volvo, a car company that is committed to going EV-only, has a research paper that comes to the same current conclusions. EV's are a fairy tale.

The problem with cars really came from the fact that there were 40,000 car companies in America only 3 were left and 2 of those declared bankruptcy. Oil companies look similar.

This is so good. Thank u

Waiting for Not Just Bikes to appear!

Sadly we need to rebuild North American cities from scratch. It's not impossible but we need to replace single-family home suburbia with multi-modal neighborhoods that are walkable, bikeable, and accessible by public transport. In the meantime, we can commit to replacing as many car trips as possible and support bicycle advocacy organizations (look for one in your area), and non-profits like YIMBY.

@davidty2006

2 жыл бұрын

i guess could do demolish and rebuild.... I have seen it done here in britain but it went from old terraced housing built in 1930 to newer houses that have wasted space from parking.

My city in Virginia, half their buses already run on electric and don't charge fare (mostly bc of 2020). I don't know if that will last forever, but it has been convenient for the people so far. And i love that they already to a step to help the environment too.

I don't think I've ever seen a video that summarizes this topic so well. Sharing immediately!

I spit up my drink when I hear talk about US chip production. As an insider to the industry I can tell you the US is not even marginally educating enough modern workers to sustain it. We import 75%+of technical semiconductor workers as it is now!!

I can’t wait to live somewhere with good public transit. The city I’m in seems almost hostile to any kind of publicly beneficial infrastructure. It doesn’t help that businesses here have so many ways to avoid paying taxes, so our public sector is starving.

So glad for this video, I just rewatched it to use bits of it in my university assignment

What do you think about Working from home from a climate perspective? It looks like it has the potential to reduce commuting emissions by quite a lot

Apparently the commute time into Manhattan would be reduced by 40-50% if all private vehicles are banned from downtown roads. How about a collab with City Beautiful and RM Transit?

I will never drive an electric car, I will drive an old civic or something till my grave.

@lw97nilslinuswhitewaterweb24

Жыл бұрын

Same

Creating such a public transportation system is further away then we might think! Yes, in big cities it's more viable, you don't have to cover extra long distances, but in rural areas are simply un sustainable. (I'm talking about Europe, more specifically Germany) When I had to pick up my girlfriend form the airport (232 km round trip), I had to spend 60-70 eur to get 3 tickets for us (one for me there, and two for us to come back), ride 6-7 hours, and catch 6-8 connections. Oh and all the trains are going hourly or only every other hour. Compared to that, I got my electric recently, I can go whenever I want, I'll have to drive only 3 hours all together, and the "fuel" cost comes down to the third!! Public transport should be the cheaper option because it's significant limitations over any type of car.

I'm surprised to see footage of Bali here. It's quite different in the main(is)land Java where PMV is a must to escape poverty.

EV cars use fossil fuel . And that harms the environment more then gas cars.

One question I have is, how will we carry around heavy things without cars? For example, I have a band and I don't imagine carrying heavy and big speakers in the bus or train. I imagine you can think of better examples than that, but still

@DuckTheFinn

2 жыл бұрын

With a car. Usually when people think of totally car free cities, they think of cities without people needlessly driving everywhere. Think of horse carriers when those were a thing.

@jackmccarthy4047

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe companies like uber for stuff like that. Not sure if the price would increase or decrease with a car free city though.

@Joesolo13

2 жыл бұрын

Outliers like that will always be exceptions to the rule. And frankly most musicians are perfectly capable of traveling with their instrument by bike, the Tubists and Drummers of the world are an outlier of an outlier. You always need options for those outliers but they don't mean we can't change the status quo.

@murraymadness4674

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, how about carrying around your two children! They don't fit on your bike, and have you seen children on a train? no thanks

I wish this video talked about the gentrification that comes with public transportation, making transportation accessible to all neighborhoods runs the risk of displacing people from their homes and the price increases of property that comes from public transportation, pushing out lower income folk. How to make a public transportation system equitable is still unclear.

Good video, but you need a better microphone!

7:30 yes, and EV emissions also fall as the grid gets cleaner.

Good video, thanks. That last mile to our homes has to be almost as convenient as using a car. Otherwise, very few (who can afford it) will give up their cars.

@tinytownsoftware3837

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. In US cities this isn't a problem. But this is a problem in 99% of situations outside of cities. Cars are here to stay. The USA is just too spread out. Throw some kids into the mix and nobody is going to want to ditch their car even if public transport stops right at your doorstep. Even in Europe. My uncle lives in Germany and the bus literally stops 50m down the road and takes him into Nurnberg. But he still owns a car because it's just much more convenient.

@charlesrodriguez7984

Жыл бұрын

@@tinytownsoftware3837 yep. Sadly. Though I’m not too sad about it. Nothing we can do to existing stuff to make it better.

@yakarotsennin3115

Жыл бұрын

@@tinytownsoftware3837 See, but there are ways to get around this. Tokyo incentives use of trains and buses by charging fees through Highway tolls and such. Make cars more inconvenient to own and you can decrease their usage. Unfortunately, the U.S. was designed around highways because of the vast distances involved. The Auto Industry was booming and encouraging the experiences offered to customers through cars. A significant investment in trains and buses as technology evolved could have mitigated this. High Speed Rail could connect vast areas of the continent, without the maintenance of highways and more scenic nature of traveling long distance by train.

@tinytownsoftware3837

Жыл бұрын

@@yakarotsennin3115 I don't see how high speed rail would solve the problem. Like I said, USA is too spread out. Getting from the train station to your house is not easy.

@yakarotsennin3115

Жыл бұрын

@@tinytownsoftware3837 High Speed Rail would only make it more efficient and faster to travel between isolated towns and cities. Traveling inside towns or cities will always be best via public transit.

Having lived in Taiwan for six years, where public transit is accessible, interconnected, and reliable, I can tell you I never missed having a car. There are still loads of cars and scooters there, but I, as an individual, was able to access anywhere I needed to go by either a tram, a train, a bus, or a ride share bicycle. All of which were accessible using the same transit card all over the country at a very low cost. It was truly incredible. The only downside was that it didn't run at night, but the bikes were still available, and an hour of riding would get you from one side of the city to the other, or a taxi could get you to the outskirts. But having since come back and resumed my individual vehicle ownership, (albeit, a motorcycle.) I understand and remember why it's so nice. But a lot of that is because our cities are laid out in a way that makes it almost a necessity. If our citizens s were built around transit, it probably would be a non issue.

So good, another occ awesome vid

Towns and cities arn't the only places where people live,

@Clyde-2055

8 ай бұрын

In the NWO, it will be … Outside of cities, you’ll have “forbidden zones” - like on “Planet of the Apes” …

The solution to transportation issues is not different transportation, but larger cities with more people requiring less or no transportation. People need to live where they work/shop/learn, eliminating "transportation" as a daily problem of modern life. The private automobile was a temporary fad, perfected by Henry Ford in an era of zero environmental awareness, free fuels, and a huge industrial capacity with lots of new immigrant labor willing to work for wages at dirty and dangerous jobs. None of these conditions apply today except in places like Mexico and India, and maybe China. The entire question of what kind of car you should drive is an example of asking the wrong question. If that is not obvious today, it will become obvious over the next few years.

We used to have electric buses. They were called trolleys. Some were even interurban.

I would like to see some consideration beyond urban centers. How does public transportation facilitate the needs of rural, agricultural communities where people are (by necessity, as far as I can figure) not densely packed? I do not say this to be dismissive, but who is thinking about sustainable (in both the human and environmental senses) arrangements and practices for the much larger portion of human-occupied land?

Electric vehicles; the neoliberal response to climate change.

Need pedal powered cars now

@davidty2006

2 жыл бұрын

I swear those existed idk how long ago it was sure 2010's......

@zachz96

2 жыл бұрын

Bikes?

@VegitoBlue202

Жыл бұрын

Bikes....