Why Drywall Dimplers SUCK!!!

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DON'T USE CHEAP DRYWALL DIMPLERS.......unless you like doing more work!!!!
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  • @davidnord1979
    @davidnord19793 жыл бұрын

    i put my drywall screws in by hand with a regular screwdriver and then i torque them down to 9 inch pounds with a torque wrench one by one...perfect..

  • @stevengerard7371

    @stevengerard7371

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is hilarious if you are joking, and impressive if you aren't!

  • @Krimsonrain

    @Krimsonrain

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stevengerard7371 and a waste of money if he's on the clock! If it's on his own time then more power to him 👌👌

  • @patrickcowan8701

    @patrickcowan8701

    3 жыл бұрын

    pre.lubing the screws individually with silicone spray before install helps,let the screw dry before you start.

  • @davidnord1979

    @davidnord1979

    3 жыл бұрын

    its a joke people

  • @davidnord1979

    @davidnord1979

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@patrickcowan8701 yeah i did that too but it didnt make a difference so i thought it was a waste of time

  • @timroscoe4519
    @timroscoe45193 жыл бұрын

    Great tip and I love that you just get to the point and don’t stretch out the video to 10 minutes! Very helpful!

  • @chrislambe400

    @chrislambe400

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any 10 minute video that answers or addresses one simple question or problem does not get watched by me. Clickbait and 10 mins for the algo sucks

  • @ScottCleve33

    @ScottCleve33

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah. He didn't go into the history of the drill and drywall only to 15 minutes later take 1 minute to tell us how it should be done. I swear these KZread people get monetized not only on views but on length of video.

  • @stephenholland6328
    @stephenholland63283 жыл бұрын

    You must have 2 audiences, DIY that want to do a nice job, and pro’s that are moving into drywall. It’s great that you address both groups. I did a ceiling soffit removal and with the techniques I learned from you have a great look with invisible seams. Having gotten confidence with that when we just pulled down kitchen cabinets and found some hidden damage as well as wanting to upgrade outlets and add an in wall water valve, there was little hesitation to pull down 2 sheets worth of drywall. The upgrades are going smoothly and with 3 corners and one flat seam the work will be a breeze! Thanks for putting all this out there!

  • @joemedley195
    @joemedley1953 жыл бұрын

    I just did a whole bathroom with a dimpler and never scored the paper. Don’t know what to make of that. Maybe the brand of dimpler makes a difference?

  • @NuttedInYoMom

    @NuttedInYoMom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I think he just used a shitty brand dimpler. I bought and used DeWalt brand dimplers for a small renovation, and it works perfectly fine, no scoring of the paper just a little circular dent that would've been filled with mud ANYway. Drywall screw setters (dimplers) have their place and time, it's meant for small drywall jobs where it wouldn't be worth investing in a drywall screw gun. Yes, their slower, but it beats spending $200 bucks when you just need to hang a couples sheets. Definitely NOT a tool a professional should be using though, but hey have their use.

  • @jayjayhooksch1

    @jayjayhooksch1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NuttedInYoMom I did drywall repair for a living for years. Switched to the dimpler after picking up a 12v impact driver. Never once tore the paper up like in this video. I also used DeWalt bits, so maybe brand makes a difference. Every once in awhile the screw wouldn't sink as nicely as with a drywall gun and I'd have to hit it twice, but was offset by how much faster I could work with an impact.

  • @birdog874555

    @birdog874555

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jayjayhooksch1 I have a DeWalt dimpler and it doesn't score the paper either. Works great actually.

  • @jimurrata6785

    @jimurrata6785

    3 жыл бұрын

    What is this guy trying to do, send the screw to China? Does he just keep going as the screw disengages?

  • @chartle1

    @chartle1

    3 жыл бұрын

    I picked up a few from Harbor Freight and yes that were crap and if I kept using them may have done this.

  • @chrisdupont1195
    @chrisdupont11953 жыл бұрын

    We drywalled all my brother's house a few years ago using those (and they came from Silverline which is like the European equivalent of Harbour Freight, so cheap stuff). Never had any problem. We used drill drivers (not impacts) on low setting and it was perfect every time.

  • @brandonlemmon

    @brandonlemmon

    3 жыл бұрын

    This was my experience as well. Impact drills are no good with the dimpler, but the regular drills at the right settings do a nice job.

  • @danielfinao
    @danielfinao3 жыл бұрын

    I’m drywaller for 20 years , the gun is better for sure but the dimpler also works well when you do not want to buy a drywall gun . You are completely right, the dimpler score the paper very often , but that happens only because sometimes when you going to screw, the screw can go sideways scratching the dimpler tip, what causes the scratched dimpler to score the drywall paper , so as soon you realize they start to score the drywall you have to exchange the dimpler or the best and fast solution is just file/sand the dimpler by pressing and spinning the dimpler tip edges for around 10 seconds against a brick,cement board, any hard surface using your drill, the scratch in the dimpler tip will disappear and wont score anymore until you by accident scratch it again. , so you repeat the proceed. Great video and tip , I have seen houses with all screws scored, what diminish the drywall resistance and a lots of extra work to mud those screws with a ripped paper sticking out.

  • @jayjayhooksch1
    @jayjayhooksch13 жыл бұрын

    Used these for years in an impact driver doing drywall repair, never once tore the paper like that. Was so much more efficient with a magnetic extension compared to a drywall gun that the owners of the company switched to impacts as well. Never seen them shred the paper like that either. Maybe the problem is using them with a drill rather than an impact; as soon as the impact is finished driving it cams out, so there's no excessive spinning.

  • @mattcaplis3045

    @mattcaplis3045

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree. I use them with a Makita impact driver and never had a problem. I'm sure a drywall specific gun is better, but I'm not a professional drywaller and wouldn't spend the $$ on the gun he's using. However, if they didn't work and scored paper like the ones he shows in his video, then I would not use them.

  • @maddawgzzzz

    @maddawgzzzz

    7 ай бұрын

    same been using my impact drivef with a dimpler and it does not tear paper. Screwdrivers will do this, not impacts.

  • @bay9876
    @bay98763 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the noise of the constant "on" drywall drill scares some carpenters. You know, "to a hammer everything looks like a nail" but dry-walling is an art that needs the right tool.

  • @bobwatkins1271
    @bobwatkins12713 жыл бұрын

    Never had any problem with those. The one I use has a "this part right here" that spins independently from the the bit. Although it turns while the screw is being driven, it stops as soon as it makes contact with the drywall.

  • @the_crusty_ledge

    @the_crusty_ledge

    3 жыл бұрын

    same here. . I'm sure the cheap ones totally suck, but the couple dollars more version does a really good job.

  • @darriuscole8544

    @darriuscole8544

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where did you find that?

  • @bobwatkins1271

    @bobwatkins1271

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darriuscole8544 No idea. I've probably had it for 20 years!

  • @TM-dh2xb

    @TM-dh2xb

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darriuscole8544 I bought one at HD years ago. I imagine Lowes has them as well.

  • @dearthworm

    @dearthworm

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too. I've got one that I got thirty years ago. It works just fine.

  • @markoshun
    @markoshun3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve never used a dedicated drywall gun so didn’t think about the depth ring not turning, makes sense. That said, I’ve never seen ripped paper using a dimpler and it’s seems to me more likely that the stronger reason for it not turning is so you can load the next screw without stopping. If I did see tearing I would assume my helper was just pushing waaay too hard. Fine tool, bad technique.

  • @matthewhorwat7540
    @matthewhorwat75403 жыл бұрын

    They work ok, when they are new, and when you don't push too hard. I haven't seen the paper ripping circles using them.

  • @michaelcarson4887

    @michaelcarson4887

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are right but if you are a carpenter we need to not be cheap and just by a drywall screw gun and give our clients the product they pay for. We just hung a basement and I didn't bring my gun. So I went and got dimples and they are just not all that great.

  • @timort2260

    @timort2260

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same I've been able to get by with them while they are fresh but honestly I have a variably speed impact and rather just use a normal bit. Though if I start doing more drywall then I'd buy the proper gun it's not like they are an expensive investment.

  • @matthewhorwat7540

    @matthewhorwat7540

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelcarson4887 to hang a couple sheets of drywall for the average DIY'er - those dimple tools are fine, but to do any more, get yourself a drywall drill. Agreed.

  • @michaelcarson4887

    @michaelcarson4887

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@matthewhorwat7540 yes sir

  • @jeepsuc99

    @jeepsuc99

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rather that put a screw next to thescrew where the board is damaged, why didn't u put in between each screw?? Just as bad as the carpenter

  • @greggin9116
    @greggin91163 жыл бұрын

    Neat video! Short, sweet and informative! Thank you! Keep up the great work!

  • @jazzjohn2
    @jazzjohn23 жыл бұрын

    For years I've never scored the paper with a dimpler . Maybe you can show us how you do it!

  • @joshyingling

    @joshyingling

    3 жыл бұрын

    Funny this is the first time I've heard of this. Never have had one rip or burn paper, I use them for my kids and wife to help me screw down panels

  • @johnallen2832

    @johnallen2832

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your full of it

  • @tripp121283

    @tripp121283

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have. But it was because I wasn't using properly. It's just supposed to be like a guide. You don't run it all the way down and let it spin on the drywall. I dont think it really spins with the bit all that much anyway

  • @michaelattoe5710

    @michaelattoe5710

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've used those dimples on every drywall job I've ever done and have never had the result that he's showing. The only way I can think that somebody might get that result is if they use a drill without a clutch on it and didn't have the least bit of feel for when to stop.

  • @johnallen2832

    @johnallen2832

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelattoe5710 with out a clutch, you nailed it

  • @drevostavbasvepomoci
    @drevostavbasvepomoci3 жыл бұрын

    I have same makita drywall drill :-) greetings from Czech - I am learning a lot from you about drywall, thank you for that :-)

  • @CodeMonkey66
    @CodeMonkey663 жыл бұрын

    Love your channel BTW...I've used your drywall tips extensively...sooo helpful. Thanks!

  • @dpgreene
    @dpgreene3 жыл бұрын

    Just looking at a room I did recently I don’t see any fully concentric paper ripping as you’re highlighting. I only recently switched to these on recommendation from a guy I worked with. If there is a trick to using these well, it would take conscious intentional driving of the screw (as in not push too hard and not driving any more than you need to). Just using a Phillips bit also takes a lot of finesse and is prone to issues too.

  • @michaeleasler4936

    @michaeleasler4936

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're absolutely correct, just use then straight on and they work great! Now ild probably use the correct sheet rock gun if I was doing a whole house.

  • @Driver732
    @Driver7323 жыл бұрын

    I also used a dewalt dimpler bit for a single room build in my basement without a single tear in drywall. It barely left a mark and definitely no tearing like what I saw in this video. Only issue I heard from people is the bit rounds off over time due to the impact driver, so you gotta replace it often. Definitely would invest in a drywall screw gun for larger jobs.

  • @JonnyDIY
    @JonnyDIY3 жыл бұрын

    I remember I was so excited when I bought one of those, then I used it for a couple screws and knew it was a piece of junk. I think if the collar around the bit was a little wider diameter they would work fine.

  • @turbo8481
    @turbo84813 жыл бұрын

    As a painter/skateboarder it's really cool to watch both your videos. Been skating 30+ years and painting 20+. My paint skills are always improving while my skate skills are not. Lol

  • @southsideshenanigans

    @southsideshenanigans

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol same bro

  • @johnross6436
    @johnross64363 жыл бұрын

    I found a 3” bit holder with the “dimpler”, but the dimpler is free not to spin with the bit holder. As a carpenter that doesn’t do a lot of drywall it seems like a perfect compromise

  • @robertgiresi9515

    @robertgiresi9515

    3 жыл бұрын

    Name or link please?

  • @johnross6436

    @johnross6436

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robertgiresi9515 Montana Brand drywall screw setter

  • @robertgiresi9515

    @robertgiresi9515

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnross6436 Thanks John. Much gratitude!

  • @stevehairston9940
    @stevehairston99403 жыл бұрын

    Lowe's sells one that works on a cordless drill that works pretty well. Works just like a drywall screw gun cone without scoring the paper.

  • @Peter-.H
    @Peter-.H3 жыл бұрын

    Short and sweet ! Thanks for the great tip. 👍

  • @samo4648
    @samo46483 жыл бұрын

    I've literally never had this happened before. Whoever installed that didnt know what they were doing

  • @chartle1

    @chartle1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Must be Canadian bits that do this. :)

  • @keithpond691
    @keithpond6913 жыл бұрын

    I have never seen that before. What brand are you using, XActo?

  • @BOCraftsman
    @BOCraftsman3 жыл бұрын

    I bought a pack and used them for a little while but, like you stated. I was more annoyed with them than happy. I stopped using them all together. I find it just as easy to be easy with the drill driver than to use those bits. Thanks for the video Ben!

  • @eols2190
    @eols21902 жыл бұрын

    I didn't use a dimpler bit. I just used the clutch/ratchet feature on my drill/driver and I had it set light enough to stop twisting before the screw head was flush with the paper. Then I went through all the screw heads with a good quality #2 Phillips screw driver, carefully tightening each screw manually. Afterwards I checked their depth by sliding my 4" knife over each, and tightened a bit more if needed. A few times the paper would tear as the screw was countersunk (not too often, but occasionally). Are you suggesting that I add a new screw next to ANY of the screw holes where the paper tore when the screw was set at the proper depth, or only if lots of them ripped the sheetrock paper?

  • @stronglifelived4sure394
    @stronglifelived4sure3943 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this video after I redrywalled my entire first floor using a dimpler 🤦🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Chopp333r

    @Chopp333r

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’ll be fine

  • @k9feces
    @k9feces3 жыл бұрын

    I had luck with them but I was really careful, I’m not a pro and don’t need to be efficient.

  • @shaunwarner7252
    @shaunwarner72523 жыл бұрын

    I've not had many problems out of the dimpler... and been using for many years. But with impact driver.

  • @IggyPelman
    @IggyPelman3 жыл бұрын

    I've used a dimpler with mixed results. It simply takes more precision to ensure you don't drive through the paper. Spending money on a purpose built tool sounds great if you plan on doing it for a living. Otherwise, not so much.

  • @moonblink
    @moonblink3 жыл бұрын

    haha that's awesome. 1:58 "that's pretty much the end of the video..." so cool, you got to the point and that was it. refreshing on youtube

  • @scottallen606
    @scottallen6063 жыл бұрын

    This is interesting. I’m a pretty skilled diyer and have hung a ton of dry wall. Never once have I scored or burnt paper. I do adjust the torque and rarely go full throttle though. Definitely something to look out for but I wouldn’t say NEVER use them or they absolutely suck. Just knowing your tools and what to look for helps. I would assume most diy people like me don’t have a drywall gun and not gonna rent one.

  • @Blahmanwhysoserious

    @Blahmanwhysoserious

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah rental of one is not even an option for me in my area, I got 4 panels to install in my garage, will likely never do this again so I'll deal with the crappy results since like everyone these days im broke

  • @Caretak007
    @Caretak0073 жыл бұрын

    I think the biggest issue with those bits is that you can't adjust the depth. I have used the Dewalt ones before and they didn't create dimples but they kept stopping about a quarter to a half turn from flush, so you have to make a 2nd pass with a screwdriver to finish. I am assuming theses dimples were created because they were having the same issue but took a shortcut by forcing the collar into the drywall to get the right depth. This, as you pointed out, negates most of the holding force of that screw.

  • @olgajoachimosmundsen4647
    @olgajoachimosmundsen46473 жыл бұрын

    Aren't you a carpenter? :P I've used this exact bit and I think it works well. It doesn't cut the paper at all, but leaves a small circle/imprint.

  • @jaredyoung5340
    @jaredyoung53403 жыл бұрын

    I've noticed the latest dimplers I bought were rough and had burrs, I smoothed them out with dremel which solved the tear out I was getting

  • @daveshafer7908
    @daveshafer79083 жыл бұрын

    I just switched from a drywall gun to these bits. No matter how hard I try, I can't seem to get any rips in the drywall. Any tips?

  • @wolfe2118
    @wolfe21183 жыл бұрын

    I have been using some high dollar dimpler that I bought for my home/shop renovation. It worked just fine as far as I could tell until it broke a few weeks ago. I stuck the bit in the end of my Milwaukee M12 impact driver and found that the driver chuck locking ring would dimple the paper just fine and spin so it didn't tear the paper.

  • @nater51
    @nater513 жыл бұрын

    I used the DeWalt dimples on my DeWalt drill. Just finished my basement. Never had the paper rip like that.

  • @NuttedInYoMom

    @NuttedInYoMom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @michaelcarson4887

    @michaelcarson4887

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just used some on a job because I left my drywall screw gun at home. And we wish I would have gone back just to get the guns. Are they ok on small scale.. kind of. But once you have used a real gun you know you shouldn't use the dimples.

  • @mine6312

    @mine6312

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelcarson4887 yea guns fast and easier but does same job

  • @michaelcarson4887

    @michaelcarson4887

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mine6312 agree to disagree. Guns are also more consistent and cleaner.

  • @mine6312

    @mine6312

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelcarson4887 im not saying a dimpler is a better option bu any stretch of the imagination just saying if you know what you are doing the job can be done just as good with a dimpler yea its going to be harder and take alot longer but ots possible ive done it many times and never had one issue

  • @kevinr3263
    @kevinr32633 жыл бұрын

    I now have a makita cordless drywall gun which rocks, but I never had a problem with the dimple bits. Never cut the paper for me. I would definitely recommend for someone who doesn't do drywall often. I probably do around 150 sheets a year which definitely warranted the drywall gun i.m.o

  • @MJAHANDYMAN
    @MJAHANDYMAN3 жыл бұрын

    was contemplating purchasing one of these..until now, Thank You!!

  • @pinerock9668
    @pinerock96682 жыл бұрын

    I used a dimpler on an impact and I sheeted my whole house. It works with an impact pretty good, it does take some care but I'd say anyone could do it with only a few over driven screws per house.

  • @meangreen7389
    @meangreen73893 жыл бұрын

    I recently replaced the ceiling in our family room which is about 224 sq. ft. I too know the importance of not setting the too deep otherwise it’s holding power is useless. I bought and used drywall screw setters by DeWalt and the drywall’s paper was not marred nor scored. Not all screw setters are the same. Love your vids, thanks for sharing.

  • @libertarian1637
    @libertarian16373 жыл бұрын

    I have a drywall gun, as well as a collared attachment for it. I do have a drywall/driver bit holder, I don’t recall who makes it but it works great for drywall and decking; it accepts 1/4”x1” bits and has a barrel collar on the outside that is free spinning and has a depth adjustment. The bit holder works great; I like it mostly for surface screwing of composite decking as it perfectly sets screw depth though it also works great with drywall as it works quite similarly to how a drywall gun works just without a clutch. The barrel hits then the screw basically drives off the bit; this does cause some bit wear but that happens anyway. I keep it in my drill/driver bag as a just in case item as I do t regularly travel with the drywall gun. As a side not I own the DeWalt drywall gun along with its matching collated adapter and while it works great on drywall unlike my corded Milwaukee it can only use DeWalt bits which are of an non-standard size and only made in #2 Philips so it can’t be used to drive deck screws.

  • @charlieodom9107
    @charlieodom91073 жыл бұрын

    I have never even heard of that thing till this video! I have always used a standard drill driver and feathered the throttle to set the screw just deep enough to cover it with mud. I don't do much drywall though.

  • @hokimocus
    @hokimocus3 жыл бұрын

    Can you tell this to your fellow Canadian Jeff over at Renovision. I love him but he is recommending a dimpler by DeWalt. After using the dimpler, I was sort of dumbfounded by my inability to set the screw. I finally gave up and hand set my screws with a corded power drill. Thanks!!!!

  • @kevinintheusa8984
    @kevinintheusa89843 жыл бұрын

    I just used a dimpler and redid a few rooms. I didn't have any problem with scoring of the paper like you show here. I suspect it really has to do with pressure on the drill and how fast you have set your tool to run. I run my stuff on medium speed and don't push too hard when setting the screws and it works fine.

  • @FD-dh2fu
    @FD-dh2fu3 жыл бұрын

    Great info! Thanks. Is there a video or helpful tips on a crack say 12 inch long on finished sheet rock painted due to house settlement? I would assume you cut out the crack and you fill it but do you fill it with compound? What’s your best practice? Thank you

  • @rullywow3834
    @rullywow38343 жыл бұрын

    Great video, as usual Ben! Thanks!

  • @Chopp333r
    @Chopp333r3 жыл бұрын

    Been using these for a few years now and I love them, never have a problem with the paper tearing but you know ya just gotta sink and quit drillin, not too hard really

  • @whatusername1234
    @whatusername12342 жыл бұрын

    Try using them with a screwdriver or a drill with mechanical clutch. Use low speed and experiment with the torque setting. Also keep the dimpler bits protected from getting damaged by coming in contact with other tools/metals so that they won't form sharp edges that may damage the paper. Try using something like the dcf601 12v screw driver with these.

  • @renski8976
    @renski89763 жыл бұрын

    I sometimes can score the paper when I push really hard with a Dimpler, but if you have good trigger finger control I find them just fine.

  • @jhans3278
    @jhans32783 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for video. I have a Montana brand screw setter that has a swivel on the nose end that does not cut into the drywall.

  • @jerseyjim9092
    @jerseyjim9092 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe I've been lucky or my dimpler model is different than the one you're using but I've never scored the paper on many jobs. And I use a 18v dewalt impact driver. I did get a corded Makita drywall screw gun and I agree it makes a neater dimple and it's much faster but sometimes, especially when I'm only doing a couple sheets, I don't feel like dragging it out and dealing with extension cords.

  • @tonyr8443
    @tonyr84433 жыл бұрын

    I tried a Dewalt dimpler for the first time because I've been using just my impact, and it worked great. Hardly see any ring marks whatsoever. I don't know how others are using it or maybe just the way I use it with an impact, but they work for me just fine.

  • @eds.9086
    @eds.90863 жыл бұрын

    I have looked all over the internet for the screw set dimpler you are using. Where did you buy your dimpler from

  • @oltedders
    @oltedders3 жыл бұрын

    I learned to hang drywall with a Philips head bit in a driver. My issue with the dimpler is that I'm always pulling the driver off before the bit can do its work. My hand is trained to not sink the screw heads too deep into the board.

  • @tommytookalook
    @tommytookalook3 жыл бұрын

    The DeWalt version worked OK but wasn’t perfect. As you recommend, I ended up going slowly w/ impact driver and coming back afterwards w/ manual screwdriver. Not a problem when you only have a small job. It would have saved a lot more nail pops if original builder hadn’t used nails instead of screws round edges of drywall.

  • @darriuscole8544

    @darriuscole8544

    3 жыл бұрын

    Back in the day, like 20-30 years ago, it was all nails. I learned on nails back when I was a kid. I come back as an adult and find that everyone is using screws, now.

  • @michaelcarson4887

    @michaelcarson4887

    3 жыл бұрын

    So we use the dewalt on a production level. Dont need to come back and set but just a few. In a respectful manner I suggest learning how to use the tool properly.

  • @sylviaknutcecily
    @sylviaknutcecily3 жыл бұрын

    I have used the dimpler bits without any issues at all, AND I've used them where they had a little tiny burr on the rim and they tore the paper every time. But I agree the drywall guns are much better/safer all around. I prefer the auto feed guns though.

  • @infotechsailor
    @infotechsailor3 жыл бұрын

    Used one of these dimplers in a remodel and it was more of an issue not getting the screws to sink in all the way but never had torn paper

  • @dnad1522
    @dnad15223 жыл бұрын

    I used them dimplers before I never experience that issue the only complaint that I have with them is they suck for inside corners and sometimes fall off the slide

  • @jimzumbababa6608
    @jimzumbababa66083 жыл бұрын

    I see you do what I do to mark the location of studs. I don't trust my ability to visually trace down the wall, so when I find the stud I use a long straight edge to mark the center line. I never miss a stud, I just follow the line down. Also, I wish I had known about those drywall dimplers a couple of years ago before I bought and used them! Hopefully I coated the screws solidly enough to keep them from popping.

  • @imark7777777
    @imark77777773 жыл бұрын

    Interesting I had the opportunity to use one and they were a scarce commodity at that habitat build, I bring this up because I don’t remember it scoring the paper it did leave sort of a dimple I’m wondering if that’s just a cheap bit with some flashing on the edge? That said I was doing a better job sinking screws with a standard bit then the other individuals with the bits.

  • @nlambuca
    @nlambuca Жыл бұрын

    do you have a video of screws on board edge? like what to do if gypsum cracks when you put screw in due to too much in or uneven base?

  • @MichaelTasse
    @MichaelTasse3 жыл бұрын

    I have one of these but in my 120year old victorian the wood is too hard it seems, and it can't screw in all the way, any tricks

  • @rcarioca
    @rcarioca24 күн бұрын

    my very old dimpler design has the collar floating on the screw bit and spring loaded. Does not tear out paper.

  • @jessemarshall7176
    @jessemarshall71762 жыл бұрын

    That makita drywall gun sound like a Lexus compared to my ryobi. You hear ever screw slipping In the bit when it gets to the end of its depth

  • @leviathanx0815
    @leviathanx08153 жыл бұрын

    This depends on the brand I dare say. I have cheap ones which need to be adjusted carefully and I have ones from brands which have a preset depth, the bits can be exchanged and they have an auto-release when the depth has been reached.. Never had the shown tear out with this type.

  • @jconradh
    @jconradh3 жыл бұрын

    I use the dimpler AND I slow down as it gets close. I have a drywall gun, BUT it doesn't work well with 90+ year old studs in my historic home. Some screws hardly go in others too far- the wood isn't as consistent as newer studs to activate the clutch.

  • @jlentztube
    @jlentztube Жыл бұрын

    I can see how the dedicated drill would be best, but with the right dimpler geometry you won't be scoring the paper. It all depends on the tip geometry. I've bought several different brands and some have the bit too far up in the sleeve, some have sharp corners on the dimpler face, and others are nicely rounded. I favor the type with the impact driver notch on the shank so they don't fall out, and a broad flat face with rounded corners. That broad flange distributes the impact over a wider area and minimizes the chance of a paper score.

  • @spencercolgan
    @spencercolgan3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video.

  • @joeschmoe6021
    @joeschmoe60213 жыл бұрын

    The "dimpler" I have does not seem tear the paper. The rim is pretty thick so maybe the load is spread over a large enough area that it does not cut the paper. But thanks for giving me something to watch for an make sure it doesn't tear the paper.

  • @TheQueQuer
    @TheQueQuer3 жыл бұрын

    I've been using this on a DIY basement reno, and haven't seen any scoring?

  • @patrickpolizzi7
    @patrickpolizzi73 жыл бұрын

    I am a DIY. I have tried drywall bits. I do not know if the bit I bought was no good, or if the driver wasn't a high enough quality. The drill wouldn't consistantly drive the screws to a consistent depth. I wound up using an impact driver. I have Milwaukee tools.

  • @coreyg7255
    @coreyg72553 жыл бұрын

    I just hung my 750 sq ft remodel/addition on my house with the simple drywall dimplers. No torn paper that I recall. I think it has more to do with the brain of the user than the tool being used in this case. The guys I hired to mud and tape were impressed with my hanging work, so there's that. And I absolutely hate doing drywall.

  • @TheHamadanners
    @TheHamadanners3 жыл бұрын

    Never even knew stuff like this exsisted yet im a little bit old school i still use the impact method

  • @ianhubbard9516
    @ianhubbard95163 жыл бұрын

    Huh, I just did my whole basement with those and didn't get any scored paper.

  • @rogerNOmore

    @rogerNOmore

    3 жыл бұрын

    same here

  • @williamwinsor7376
    @williamwinsor73763 жыл бұрын

    They work great if you push just right. They are not garbage! I’ve used both for years.

  • @TheMustangStampede
    @TheMustangStampede3 жыл бұрын

    Just did entire house to include ceilings using dimpler not once did it tear the paper like that. I sunk a few to deep my fault not the dimpler. Back them out removed and placed another screw beside the blow out. We also had dewalt dry screw drill. It was used much less in favor of cordless impact with dimpler. Im sure not all dimplers are created equal.

  • @MrSkyl1ne
    @MrSkyl1ne3 жыл бұрын

    If you don't have a drywall driver, you can use a regular cordless drill with a clutch. Test what setting works best with the clutch in your drywall and studs and it will work just fine in most cases. My bosch drill even has an automatic stop as soon as the clutch kicks in and I can do the occasional drywall work just fine with it. No need for an expensive extra tool.

  • @thejpkotor
    @thejpkotor3 жыл бұрын

    ‘It’s a poor tradesman that blames the tools’. It’s all about technique.

  • @1234ihooley1234
    @1234ihooley12343 жыл бұрын

    I wish you would’ve made the video about 9 months ago. I used those dimplers and I had the same problem you were describing.

  • @alwaysrockn2009
    @alwaysrockn20093 жыл бұрын

    Excellent. I’d didn’t know the there was a special screw gun just for drywall on top of a regular screw gun and impact driver. Dang. Is there No special attachment available so you don’t have to purchase another gun/driver?

  • @fxre247

    @fxre247

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah there's an attachment, the dimpler he told us not to use haha

  • @garnetnard4284

    @garnetnard4284

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fxre247 lol

  • @NuttedInYoMom

    @NuttedInYoMom

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fxre247 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💯

  • @ballsdeep9648
    @ballsdeep96483 жыл бұрын

    I used the dimplers and they don’t tear. I sometimes get a ring but it doesn’t appear to tear the paper.

  • @turboflush
    @turboflush3 жыл бұрын

    The dimplers i had, the outwr ring would not spin. I stoped using them though. Was easier to just use a regular screw bit. These days i finally have a drywall gun.

  • @JR-vh6mz
    @JR-vh6mz3 жыл бұрын

    Carpenter here who occasionally does drywall. When I don't have a drywall gun I prefer reduced phillips drive bits (and being extra careful) over dimple bits.

  • @UNoBugMe1
    @UNoBugMe13 жыл бұрын

    The last job I went to to do the finish on the drywall was done with those horrible dimples, I had to rescrew the whole job and I was pissed off. I found 3 of those dimples on the site a threw them in the woods behind the house.

  • @lipevolcom2
    @lipevolcom2 Жыл бұрын

    Dewalt have magnetic sleeve that holds into the round zone one the bit so you can have a magnet holder and limiter that won't turn when meets resistance . Problem solver for the ones who can't use those. I did about 250 screws using those cheap bits yes I did torn the paper a few times but if you can't find the DeWalt , just use them with careful

  • @geoffschulz
    @geoffschulz3 жыл бұрын

    You couldn't have done this video BEFORE I started my kitchen remodel... more than 80% of the screws I set were not deep enough and I had to go over them and set them deeper.

  • @curtisbme

    @curtisbme

    3 жыл бұрын

    Far better to have them not set deep enough than too deep. I have my screw gun set to err on the not-deep-enough. Actually a good thing for someone doing their own work that isn't a pro as you can go back with a screw driver and get them in perfectly with zero over sunk.

  • @ryandylanfunfamilytrips4220
    @ryandylanfunfamilytrips42203 жыл бұрын

    Now I know why I got screw popped. Will never use it again. Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @raypoulette5796
    @raypoulette57965 ай бұрын

    I never had a problem but them drywall guns I've always have problems in the corners

  • @dustinpomeroy8817
    @dustinpomeroy88173 жыл бұрын

    I've hung hundreds of sheets of drywall with those since they came out 20 some years ago and I've never seen them score the paper like that 🤷

  • @rh5971
    @rh59713 жыл бұрын

    The one I use does not tear the paper at all. It also cost me thirteen bucks but it works very well. I love your videos! Cheers, eh!

  • @indistinctchatter6677
    @indistinctchatter66773 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I recently tried a dimpler on a repair job and felt guilt that all the screws spun loose. I thought it was me.

  • @mine6312

    @mine6312

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was you

  • @JRFarmercom
    @JRFarmercom3 жыл бұрын

    What if you don't have access to a proper drywall drill, what do you recommend for us DIYers to set screws correctly?

  • @Krimsonrain

    @Krimsonrain

    3 жыл бұрын

    Take it slow and practice. Eventually you'll get a feel for trigger pull and for how long it takes the screw to sink the way you want it to.

  • @michaelnoone1565
    @michaelnoone15653 жыл бұрын

    I thought you were supposed to keep a drywall gun spun up between screws. But you're turning it on as you install the screw. Which is correct?

  • @lorenrickey5481

    @lorenrickey5481

    3 жыл бұрын

    The newer Makitas don't start up until the screw presses against the drywall. Saves battery life.

  • @rustyt.5688
    @rustyt.56883 жыл бұрын

    Please show us what we can use with a drill. I just bought a dimpler. I’ve been looking for something for over a week. Thanks!

  • @torridice
    @torridice3 жыл бұрын

    When I had to drywall a room for a reno I literally bought the exact same bit and came to the same conclusion. It sucked. I stopped short for every screw and finished it manually real slow.

  • @Cyanide300
    @Cyanide3003 жыл бұрын

    This doesn't happen because of the dimpler. It happened because the installer used an impact driver and it drove the screws and the dimpler in too far. Use a regular drill and just let go of the trigger when the outer edge of the dimpler contacts the paper and it'll be fine. I just finished hanging drywall in my kitchen with one of these and every screw was perfect.

  • @joralriver9052
    @joralriver90523 жыл бұрын

    for me as a DYI er, it's been working fine, finished 2 projects already i didn't have any issues. you and other people that do this for living can get those special drywall guns.

  • @NuttedInYoMom

    @NuttedInYoMom

    3 жыл бұрын

    This

  • @lanalovesjesus6133
    @lanalovesjesus61333 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree. Had to go back and redo half the screws

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