Why wouldnt you just take the corner bead off??

@hkgonra

2 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I was thinking, why not just rip it out and take out the problem ?

@gme10955

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo!

@vancouvercarpenter

2 жыл бұрын

It's super old drywall which is really hard to get rid of and often contains asbestos. It's best not to disturb it. The best solution would have been to shim out the whole left side of the wall but unfortunately like I mentioned it was an afterthought.

@JohnSmith-or7re

2 жыл бұрын

@@vancouvercarpenter Cool, figured there was a reason.

@justaworkeryup636

2 жыл бұрын

@@vancouvercarpenter if the corner has asbestos then the entire board will. Cutting the corner would have been half the work and twice as fast in my opinion. Have done it a lot. Shimming the entire wall will work too but as you said no drywall we brings a table saw to do that lol

I greatly appreciate all the time, effort and money that you put into filming and producing these videos. If you feel the need to make the video, it will help someone. Keep up the good work. Your KZread channel is my "go to" for solving problems related to plaster and drywall. My house looks great, and my family and friends love the work that I do. I couldn't have done it without your KZread Channel. You have been a huge part in building my skills and experience. Please keep doing what you are doing! Thanks again, keep up the good work!

As one tradesman to another, it’s humbling to see we all make mistakes and you own up yours. He is right when it comes to drywall, it’s not the drywallers fault but they do get blamed first when people see the dips and hops.

Thanks Ben. I'm alright at drywalling but it's all starting to click. You're videos help a lot. 25 hrs of actual practice and maybe 40hrs of your vids. And hot damn i can get a really good finish. I've been a skilled hand for about 10 years so that helps but this isn't skateboarding. But having this knowledge avaible during the act just helps trouble shoot every bottle neck. Really helped out so much. Thank you.

I don’t work with dry wall other than having to do an occasional patch job, but I learn a lot watching you problem solve.

Generally I find your videos very interesting and helpful but personally and professionally I would have just shaved that bulging corner with a hand planer before hanging the right horizontal sheet, ultimately producing a straighter wall and creating less work. I do agree that this is not the drywaller's job but I'm talking about the overall process of what should have been done. Keep up the good work, Ben!

@Bapuji42

2 жыл бұрын

It looked to me like the "bulging corner" was in plane with the studs to the right, and the problem was that it sunk in to the left of that corner.

@philwell76

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely would have knocked the old corner bead out

@stevewaybright1933

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking exactly the same thing

@Cris-ss8tb

2 жыл бұрын

I agree but I woul borrow someone else's planer.lot of crud on that wall

@stevewaybright1933

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cris-ss8tb belt sander then

Thank you for all your videos and this honest video as well. I have watched many of your videos in the past and now re-watched many of them and they are such incredibly helping. I have started a small project just two high floating book cabinets, but there is a major wave and a stud sticking out. So I am doing wall framing a la your style. With the quickset and using my 4 foot level. With many passes and drying time in between, work has been going slow, but it is going and I hopefully by tomorrow I will do the skim coat and sanding. I feel like I am getting much better with the drywall-knife as well. It all feels so much easier that a few years ago when your videos weren't around yet! MANY THANKS again!

You the man Ben !! I don't remember which KZread channel I saw this tip on :(, (it might have been on "Vancouver Carpenter's" channel), but here is a good tip for dealing with crooked wall studs when installing drywall: If you know which stud(s) are crowned "in", apply a thick coat of thin-set against those studs. Place the drywall sheet against the studs and push the sheet to squish the excess thin-set until the sheet is flat. Put only a couple of screws where the drywall is already straight and tight to the stud. Let the thin-set dry overnight, and finish screwing the rest of the sheet the next day. Obviously, this may not work in all cases, but can work.

Started doing my basement and your videos have been a huge help. I have drywalled once before and hated it because of the mess and sanding. But after watching your videos this time was so much easier. The best tip...feathering. 👌

This video is super helpful - to know what the framing (bad or just wood twisting) will do to your drywall hang and what you can do to still have straight walls. I have bowed and twisted basement ceiling joists and studs. I will need to learn a combination of fixing those where I can and knowing where to put the drywall seams. And then go to your videos about how to smooth way walls. Love the one you did on the bathroom. I will need to tackle my own wavy bathroom wall one day.

Great in depth video, thanks for appreciating the fine details in drywalling and sharing your expertise

As the framer and rocker I have flattened out framing by using a scrub plane to take off high spots and shims to fill low spots... and flattened some twisted framing with hot mud. For the LOAP I probably would have ripped that corner bead out before doing the fill-in framing... and flattened the framing from there. It may have saved some time over trying to work around that bulge.

@Malungeon18436571

2 жыл бұрын

I thought he was going to take out the corner bead.

@calebmoos7742

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing

@misstweetypie1

2 жыл бұрын

He said he didn’t know if there was asbestos in the wall, so he didn’t take out the corner bead. (In another comment) :)

@johngrossbohlin7582

2 жыл бұрын

@@misstweetypie1 Information not in evidence when I wrote the original comment. I also didn’t consider it as an issue at the time as local to me getting rid of demo debris isn’t a problem… though that doesn’t stop some from dumping it along roads illegally instead of paying the nominal dump fees.

@markmyers7426

2 жыл бұрын

He just uses that bs as an excuse to not do the job properly like John would do. Mud framing....lol...need I say more!

I've never run into that, but good to know! Your videos have helped me a lot in renovating my house, I'm happy to say I've skimmed coated and textured my entire home! Using a hawk and trowel helped a ton, which of course I got because of your videos. Adding lighting, electrical outlets, and other things required lots of drywall patching, which again your videos came to the rescue. I even dared to use 5 minute hot mud! Total disaster at first, dried on me before I could even use it the first time, but got the hang of it. Anyway, all this is just one giant thank you!!! Really appreciate all your videos, your experience, tips and tricks. Thanks a lot Ben!

I'm all for you making that long video, I sit at work and watch your videos. You've helped me learn so much about drywall!

I would eagerly watch your hour & a half video on drywall mistakes & the right way to do it from the beginning or the right way to fix it. (I’d watch ALL your videos no matter the length.) I’ve learned so much from your professional videos & they are greatly appreciated & have honestly been life savers for me. I can’t afford to pay a professional so I must do the work myself to save/improve the home for my daughter & me. This is all I have to leave her when I’m gone so the work must be done to last & your videos are the only ones I’ve found that cover ALL the necessary details that I’m looking for. Thank you for all the time you take to teach the rest of us how to truly do the jobs right. I am beyond grateful. ~

Good lighting for a 'heart to heart' talk about faults. Hahaha. I needed that insight, I have only seen a few of your youtubes, but you are the 'go to' for clarity when I get back into my home build. All experts forget about the early days when they were learning these lessons. Keep going, we all have different learning needs or reassurance as we get into this work. You seem to keep hitting the mark.

Aloha Ben! Great point as to where the responsibility falls on crooked walls. As a Carpenter of many years and experience myself, come across situations similar to the video you made, I wholeheartedly agree with you and feel your frustrations. Out of humility and being a decent business person, we try not to blame others for their mistakes. No one is perfect. From the beginning, we are taught that foundation is key, but we must also understand that the earth or land is moving and so therefore whatever framework is set to that foundation will follow as a result. From my experience the customer doesn’t want to hear what mistakes others did, but they definitely love to hear the end result as what you can do what’s best for them. P.S. The funniest thing in our line of work Ben, is that we see the minute flaws that they would never see until we point them out!

This is just a shoutout from a drywaller that's also an RDS fan, didn't know you supported the skate community. You're doing great, keep going!

yep packing out the wall definitely easier and “way to go”; and is one if those things you realize afterwards 😉 Do agree w/ ya, when remodel older houses mid 80s and earlier….messing w/ corner beads, drywall, etc…is a different BEAST and can get dicey; & then it’s always a fun game when you have those lovely surprises that want to make you cry & laugh all at same time…..YA KNOW!😅 Like doing a room that WE ALL THOUGHT was Sheetrock (sorry for those who call it drywall, so used to calling is “Rock” or Sheetrock), which was, but underneath was 1/2 breadboard, and under that was lath & plaster. Oh did I mention the Lath had a several layers of wallpaper (which isn’t any big deal, but did have 6 layers, lol). So, what we though would be “quick”, took a tiny bit longer, which how it goes😀 Would be awesome if remodels were like what see on TV shows, as everything would be buttoned up and done in 45 mins😉

you have taught me 100% of what i know about drywalling so thank you very much! what i liked about this video in particular is how you talked about who is paid to do what and how to try to price things. any bits of that information you want to share would help people like me starting up and getting paid correctly for jobs done! thanks again.

@kevinr3263

2 жыл бұрын

You're definitely watching the right guy. Myron Ferguson is good too he's worth a look

Furring out the plane is something I do in every project: counter tops and dry wall especially.

post that big-ass video my man. when i'm pulling up tile or whatever I want a long video I can listen to

i’d def watch the longer video, i’d love to learn some more stuff to be on the look out for on my diy projects!!

Glad that you was honest and didn’t hide your mistakes! showing that without mistakes we cannot learn.

Okay I'm so glad you recorded that second intermission because when you were adding that shimmy to gap, I literally said to myself, "why not take out the wall and shimmy the studs and then put wall back on", however, seconds later I told myself, "oh maybe I'm gonna learn something new from "da man VC". And you're right. While working, our logic can sometimes skip a beat. You're still my guy to go to for house jobs. Great work VC!!

Really good stuff thank you for making all these videos, appreciate all your hard work that goes into making these.

Yes man, that's the worst. You wouldn't believe how much framing we have to fix as drywallers. I always say that framers need to hang drywall to know how to frame. And we don't get paid to fix the framing it just makes our job go quicker and gives the owners a better finish.

Ok I was watching all three Beginner Drywall videos yesterday and that error was bugging me for the last video and a half. Thank you for admitting the mistake.

Thanks for another great video Ben! I would watch the long video on hanging drywall! I could use some more tips and tricks!

The video about drywall hanging mistakes won't be boring. I'm already subscribed to, and watching content from a guy who primarily smears mud on walls. I think your video will probably be on-topic.

This was an amazingly helpful video. Thank you.

Drywall absorbs blood well and you always leave a part of yourself on every job! That’s commitment personified.

I really enjoy your down to earth approach in your videos. I'm a GC in Virginia.

Here in NZ mostly the carpenters do the drywall. I always prep my framing, especially in kitchens and bathrooms. I always say that the majority of the drywall work occurs before I hang the drywall.

I saw another video a few years ago where the contractor went as far as replacing a few vertical studs before installing the drywall. I installed some ship lap in my condo and the common wall vertical studs were bowed out about 1/8". It really showed but being a common wall, I was up a creek without a hammer.

@robertbamford8266

2 жыл бұрын

I’m installing vertical shiplap on the inside face of a 50-year old stucco fence (spouse’s requirement). Shimming or shaving (sometimes “and”) every foot of the way.

Interesting video this week, and it was a pretty good solution to the bulge, even if you did realize that you should have removed the whole sheet and shimmed the full length. It would be an interesting segment for you to talk about average rates and what you would charge for a per-square-foot job versus an hourly job. I realize that you're in BC and it's going to be different in most other places, but it would give a good place to start for beginning drywallers. Thanks Ben for all the great information you put out there.

Thanks man. Great tips!

Definitely interested in that video!

on a cabinet wall i like to do all stand ups. More taping but no butt joint to deal with so cabinets and counter stay nice a flush with the wall.

I’ve seen a few of ur videos ..ur a carpenter …I’ve learn new tricks from u and I’ve watched videos just to see how things in the field would be done

I wish Home Depot (or any of the of the big box stores) here in the great white north carried the Strait-Flex 45 in. Drywall Shims. They are used for padding out low spots in a stud wall. High spots get a pass or two with an electric planer. In a pinch I've cut strips of RamBoard, but doing that is a PITA.

On smooth ceilings in high-end houses, we’ve switched to using butt boards because of the poor quality of lumber we’ve been seeing and people’s expectations increasing significantly. Also we try and railroad all walls less than 12’; otherwise, we often hang sheets vertical to avoid butt seams, especially in kitchens where cabinets and counter tops will be installed afterwards. Gotta look after the next guy, right. Sure wish the framers would think about us. Way too often we are adding in nailers they haven’t bothered with. Another great vid as always.

@johndiasjr9000

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's always leave it for the next guy to fix kinda sucks sometimes, framer leaves for rocker who leaves for spackler who leaves for painter trim guys always deal with nightmares

@brianallen140

2 жыл бұрын

Butt boards kick ass. You can even whip up your own with some osb and some poster board. People just aren't familiar with them so they just continue the old school way but man once you use a couple and it clicks you'll never go back to landing the ends on a stud

@KevinsDisobedience

2 жыл бұрын

How do you guys feel about using them on the walls? Some code inspectors don’t want us to use them on the walls. I wasn’t sure about it myself, but when we do I can’t tell where we used them and where we didn’t. I mean the wall doesn’t flex or anything.

@brianallen140

2 жыл бұрын

@@KevinsDisobedience in my opinion I see more flex on the walls because I'm using 5/8 rock for ceilings. I use them on walls personally. Inspectors are a weird lot. They might not like something but if it's not code it doesn't matter what they like. They generally don't like it because they aren't familiar with them. It's human nature. I'd bet the majority of sheetrockers out there aren't running butt boards. Maybe 10%? I think they are game changers when you want a nice flat finish. Especially when you have strong lighting in the area.

You post it, I’ll watch. Thanks for your time!

Oh crap, you're so right. I've been slimming low joists, studs when I could use those for butts. Taking this further I could plane down joist/studs where a butt lands.

I'm just learning drywall I would like to see that hour video thanks 👍👍👍

Feel like I'm in a trade college lecture...love it

Perfect skill👍🏻💪🏻

The only thing I dislike about your videos is that I now realize all the mistakes that I've made on previous home projects. On the other hand, I'lldo a better job on future projects (I hope). Thanks for all the information you put out.

Have you considered writing a how-to book? I've been following your videos for a few years now and have absolutely used your instructions and techniques on the renovations I've done to my 40 year old split level - and my final products look great and I am actually proud of them (which isn't always the case when you do renovations as someone who has ADHD and OCD). Just curious if the thought has ever crossed your mind - I think it'd be a great tangible way to be able to reference your instructions without smearing mud all over my cell phone screen :)

oh...I finally see how the low wall for the sink area (?) was addressed and solved w/ a sky light - cool

I'm definitely not a pro drywaller, only did about 4 rooms so far (planning on doing a lot more on my house), but I bought those paper cardboard shims to even out everything before hand. Those are better than wood IMO as they give some cushioning while still being firm and they are easy to just stack onto of eachother on bigger gaps. Didn't run into anything as bad as that corner bead though.

Im not a pro by any means. Ive picked up some good habits from watching homerenovision n basement finishing man YT videos. I check for crowns on the studs n face them up n out facing the inside of the room. Then I place a level across the studs . If one is off I check the bottom n top n feel if its flush or not with the base or top plate n adjust or it may have a twist in it . But a twist you can see as your installing. In this video I would recheck the studs .

I think people would watch the long version - there is an antique furniture restorationist in Maine and his videos are quite long but extremely informative

A ticket in the trade........thats what makes a great Interior System mechanic.....oh, and the apprenticeship it takes to achieve it.

As a boards man. I always keep 1/4 mohagany wood in truck for high and low spots.

I stopped meeting butt joints on a stud I let it fly and use a nailer either pine stock or strips of ply stronger joint to share 4 inches than to share 1 1/2 inches. Also less cuts I just use full boards with that method much faster

@AMByram

2 жыл бұрын

Appears like a sound method to me. However I'm going to have to wait until some real professionals put in their two cents about this method before I put it in my bag o tricks.

@redblue8775

2 жыл бұрын

They actually make a special product that's a recessed plywood to make butt joints similar to bevels it's called butt board I think trimtex makes it. So I'm sure nailer works fine just doesn't make it recessed like that product

@johndiasjr9000

2 жыл бұрын

@@redblue8775 yeah I know tho where I'm at they're hard to find tend to get expensive and not enough people want to pay that extra cost so leftovers and cut offs it is

@johndiasjr9000

2 жыл бұрын

@@AMByram fine home building magazine covers them in an issue, all about best drywalling methods

The long videos are great. You don’t have to watch the whole thing and you may cover some really odd thing that someone needs somehow. It is there if people need it. More info is never a bad thing unless it is bad info.

Another really good video.

great 👍 keep them coming!

7:43 I did the same dang thing when installing potlights and repairing the drywall. That cut was so jagged and torn up.

If you are close to finishing the 1.5 hr video, then just don't worry so much about the editing and put it up. I'll gladly watch it instead of finishing my wife's master bed/bath renovation!

Your videos are excellent

Exactly.

Seeing you make mistakes makes me feel better about trying to not be too OCD about the little things you cant/shouldnt go back and redo. It's not how good you are, it's how good you are at fixing mistakes you made(but try not to make mistakes haha.) Thanks a ton as usual for all the knowledge and info

I have a situation in my kitchen i have one wall where we have a cast iron. Pipe that runs up the wall and it sticks out 3/8 of an inch. I bought shims but now my outlets need to be brought forward a bit and now the wall will be now connected to an old wall so now i may have to float the high point. Ugh!!! 😂

How about adding rips of 1/4" or 1/2" drywall instead of a 2x4 rip?

Excellent 👍

7:43 We’ve all done that, feelin the pain w/ ya bro, feelin the pain😊 Now here’s the question, do ya use painters or electrical tape (& shop towel) as bandaid, or do ya glue it w/ CA glue (yes, does work & just like liquid bandaid says not all “cuts” will work great using this product). Of course, having some bandaids on hand, sure does help😊

Glad to see you're not floating down a river on a drywall raft! Given the weather news and no video from you, I was wondering. Bet there will be a lot of fix up jobs...

I would have removed the exe and packed the studs to the right. Though it depends on which corner is square. I may jave packed (shimmed) both corners and made a flat wall.

Just send the video Ben, I will watch the one about all the mistakes you can make when hanging board. Trust me there are those of us that will appreciate it!

Great video Ben, how about making them into a shwack of shorts???

Would love to see all the tips. We can easily stop video and watch more when have time.

Wonder if I’m going to have to check on how level my ceiling is before I hang the 1/2” over the popcorn. May have to float out some spots. Going to install pot lights after throughout. Thank you for this info. Ben. Really appreciate your instruction & insight.

@brianallen140

2 жыл бұрын

I ripped my popcorn ceiling down and put up new rock. If you are doing walls I think it's the way to go.

@billm.8220

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianallen140 my walls are just fine. The popcorn ceiling however is outdated & needs to be taken care of.

I have a similar situation in a kitchen. Being a newbie, I drywalled a bad wall without checking the wall. Once in place, the base cabinets show the the wall is nowhere near plumb or flat. I'm not using wall cabinets, but I can't even put up a back splash against this mess. I'm thinking of bead boarding the wall (or maybe using shiplap). I can shim on top of the now-painted drywall before I put up the board . Any feedback on this idea?

Does a tool exist to quickly asses whether bows or other inconsistencies exist in the framing? For example, are laser levels possibly designed in a way that enables the laser to be positioned in such a way that the tool butts against the frame, allowing the beam to span the full length of the frame, thereby pinpointing protruding parts of the frame?

I feel sorry for the guy putting in the countertop!!!

Thank you! As a new drywaller, what are the expected roles?

Imma keener looking forward to the “mistakes” videos Thankyou very much

I have a rectangular hole that a drywaller fixed that is super wavy. It’s very noticeable under the texture. It seems solid, just ugly. Is my best bet to just try to sand it flat and retexture it?

I drilled a t25 bit into my thumb, right to the bone

Great video! Consider trimtex butt board

Any reason why you did not remove the old corner bead as well as shim what might need it?

BTW....nice crisp corner in the background.

Why not add a third layer of drywall to the part that's not flushing out far enough?

Looked like the 4x8 sheet laid on its side was just laid over that corner bead piece... of course its going to be 1/2" off if thats the case...

I always remove existing corner beads..by their design they are going to be proud of the wall.....wut am I missing here?

I always tell people if you have never taped, then you probably don't know how to hang board properly either.

Richard, Roland, Roger, Rosaire, Remy, Reynald, Raymond, Robert...

Not necessarily the left one, I would take a few precise measurements and see which corner is actually square and try to maintain that one. Hanging cabinets in an off-square room sucks just as much as a bowed wall.

I'd watch the long video!

I generally prefer the 12-21 minute videos. However, I will absolutely watch a 1+hour video if I'm learning something. I save those for Saturday morning.

10:58 👍🏻👍🏻U BET👍🏻

My 2 cents: Break the hour and half vid into 5 or 6 shorter vids. Parts 1-6. I'll only watch 15-20 minutes at a pop, unless it's a subject I'm really, really, REALLY into.

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Oh I forgot how the drill can slip off the nail hitting ur thumb when I was working as a carpenter

Most people learn more by seeing mistakes that are made and being shown how to avoid doing those mistakes to begin with or how to correct them. So, yes make the video, but maybe run it as a 3 or 4 part presentation.

@thejrellis

2 жыл бұрын

I like the idea of seeing the mistakes broken out into mini videos with some of the commentary done after recording.

What stopped you from just removing the problematic cornerbead?

@vancouvercarpenter

2 жыл бұрын

Having to dispose of old drywall.

@JasonT__

2 жыл бұрын

@@vancouvercarpenter Isn't disposing of old drywall a part of a renovation?

@jontowns6728

2 жыл бұрын

It is very difficult in Vancouver to dispose of drywall. The dumps/transfer sites don’t take it

@JasonT__

2 жыл бұрын

@@jontowns6728 Certainly less options, but New Westminster takes it from Contractors.

@dljones61

2 жыл бұрын

Guy from Oregon here, is drywall considered a hazardous material up Canada?

We want to see it

Let’s see it!