“Why don't you just use a controller with your phone?”

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  • @WulffDen
    @WulffDen24 күн бұрын

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  • @X91X-km7hp

    @X91X-km7hp

    24 күн бұрын

    Please review the BSP bluetooth controller series

  • @joshuapomales732

    @joshuapomales732

    23 күн бұрын

    My daughter likes to play Roblox on her iPhone, do any of these controllers mentioned work with the 14 to play Roblox?

  • @DR3WXX

    @DR3WXX

    22 күн бұрын

    Is there any controllers for andriods for the fold 4?

  • @X862go

    @X862go

    17 күн бұрын

    The aspect ratio and the heat 🥵

  • @disky01
    @disky0124 күн бұрын

    If I have to remove a case, that's a dealbreaker.

  • @Fernando-ek8jp

    @Fernando-ek8jp

    24 күн бұрын

    When it comes to convenience? Yeah. I totally get the appeal though. Maybe you have a new phone and your old one is still very capable so you want to turn it into a dedicated gaming device. Maybe you have a very slim case or already go ceaseless. Maybe, as Wulff said, you have a high end phone, like playing mobile games a lot and don't want a separate device. I'm with you though

  • @AbimayoXD

    @AbimayoXD

    24 күн бұрын

    ​@@Fernando-ek8jp Yeah I'm on team caseless and I love my kishi v2

  • @Fernando-ek8jp

    @Fernando-ek8jp

    24 күн бұрын

    @@AbimayoXD I can totally see that. I'm too clumsy to go caseless

  • @DaiChurch

    @DaiChurch

    24 күн бұрын

    Don’t use a case.

  • @Fernando-ek8jp

    @Fernando-ek8jp

    24 күн бұрын

    @@DaiChurch I can't tell if you're for real or not. At best your suggestion is: "Change the way you are used to using your phone on a daily basis just so you can add a specific accessory that you might not use that often"

  • @woozi36
    @woozi3624 күн бұрын

    Cell phone controllers being more expensive than console controllers will always be funny to me.

  • @wahtari2994

    @wahtari2994

    24 күн бұрын

    there are cheap ones. but they are very meh doesnt feel good.

  • @extra4542

    @extra4542

    24 күн бұрын

    It literally has never made sense to me

  • @skycloud4802

    @skycloud4802

    24 күн бұрын

    Some low end handhelds are cheaper than these higher end phone controllers as well.

  • @clifrebres2618

    @clifrebres2618

    24 күн бұрын

    Your phone cast more than your console so now what.

  • @robertt9342

    @robertt9342

    24 күн бұрын

    @@hellotherenameishere. Let alone hundreds of millions.

  • @majestyzx9081
    @majestyzx908124 күн бұрын

    The worst part about games that are in the app store specifically is that a ton of them don't even offer controller support as an option.

  • @jang.6097

    @jang.6097

    24 күн бұрын

    Yep. Then i discovered keymapping on android handhelds and now i am ripping all the players in multiplayer games hahaa

  • @jarrodjob

    @jarrodjob

    23 күн бұрын

    @maj Thanks for writing this so I didn’t have to.

  • @DaleonM4

    @DaleonM4

    23 күн бұрын

    Cod mobile players use from 3 to 10 fingers in comp competitions... So...

  • @SweBeach2023

    @SweBeach2023

    23 күн бұрын

    Yeah, have no idea why so very few games support controllers. If spending so much time and money developing in game, how hard could it possible be to add controller support? It's after all only a small number of software interfaces to deal with.

  • @Stravioska

    @Stravioska

    23 күн бұрын

    @@jang.6097 what do you use to map keys?

  • @eternalprogression
    @eternalprogression24 күн бұрын

    3:13 oh my god that’s my video🫢

  • @WulffDen

    @WulffDen

    24 күн бұрын

    omg its the guy

  • @dolphs__

    @dolphs__

    24 күн бұрын

    Are you going to make all the m-cons by hand or with somesort of machine?

  • @majestyzx9081

    @majestyzx9081

    24 күн бұрын

    Say the thing!

  • @JFTSwiertz

    @JFTSwiertz

    24 күн бұрын

    EVERYONE QUICK SHOW THIS GUY SOME LOVE!

  • @Fernando-ek8jp

    @Fernando-ek8jp

    24 күн бұрын

    I watched your video recently, I wish you the best

  • @GoroOno
    @GoroOno24 күн бұрын

    Been using a Gamesir X2 Pro with an S23 Ultra for over a year, it takes less than ten seconds to attach. Works flawlessly, and the phone can emulate anything pretty much.

  • @Stevegresky

    @Stevegresky

    21 күн бұрын

    Same with my s23! Its full ps2 in our pockets 😮

  • @ruy7164

    @ruy7164

    19 күн бұрын

    Is it possible to emulate something on my computer and stream it to my phone and play with the gamersir there?

  • @nikenbole

    @nikenbole

    13 күн бұрын

    Yup, lookup sunshine or parsec ​@@ruy7164

  • @crazystupidgamer

    @crazystupidgamer

    8 күн бұрын

    Same here. Got the Galileo g8 with my s22 ultra and it's flawless, even with a thick case.

  • @techstuff3338

    @techstuff3338

    18 сағат бұрын

    I had an x2 pro and it broke within less than a month. Issues with the right joystick and the usb c port. Never getting a usb c controller again, only bluetooth.

  • @tomiraiku
    @tomiraiku24 күн бұрын

    I took a phone I no longer use for calling and what not, bought a Gamesir G8 controller, setup a frontend on the device, and now it's a portable gaming handheld for when I go somewhere and I can just play a lot of games on the go without having to lug around some consoles and handhelds.

  • @Fernando-ek8jp

    @Fernando-ek8jp

    24 күн бұрын

    I can see that being a very valid usecase. Capable phone that you no longer use? Why not make it into a dedicated gaming device.

  • @DthBakesh

    @DthBakesh

    24 күн бұрын

    This. Old phone plus controller could make you "cheap" alternative for dedicated handheld. I have my old Xiaomi with SD845, decent amount of GC and PS2

  • @jang.6097

    @jang.6097

    24 күн бұрын

    Why some consoles and handhelds? Get somethin like the odin 2 and you have the same options as your phone. Some prefer the aestetic of real connected buttons and a 16:9

  • @Fernando-ek8jp

    @Fernando-ek8jp

    24 күн бұрын

    @@jang.6097 that's a handheld. That's a separate, independent device that you have to carry around.

  • @jang.6097

    @jang.6097

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Fernando-ek8jp did you read his comment? He took a second phone. So he also has another device right?

  • @BasharZapen
    @BasharZapen24 күн бұрын

    I have a Chinese controller [BSP D9] that natively mimics the signal of PS, Xbox, and switch controllers. So, it's perfect for remote play. I recently got an Android phone [Redmagic 9 Pro] specifically for emulation with Dolphin and Yuzu. This setup allowed me to play Nintendo games for the first time, and it has been serving me great. I never take the Android phone or the mobile controller out of the house, so the bulkiness is not an issue for my use case. But in general, mobile [emu] gaming has never been better!

  • @praveenm5723

    @praveenm5723

    17 күн бұрын

    BSP is the best and waaay cheaper

  • @PloopChute

    @PloopChute

    13 күн бұрын

    I got the D8 a while back and was genuinely blown away by how good it is. For sure, it does feel cheap but it works incredibly well. Hall effect joysticks and triggers in a device I paid like $18 on AliExpress is insane. I use the Gamesir G8 now, but I've been thinking of grabbing the new one they put out. The D10S with the cooling pad on the back. I almost got the D9 as well, but I personally couldn't get over how much it was trying to look like a dualsense. It felt a bit cheesy imo. Different strokes and all that, I guess. Still, BSP is absolutely killing it.

  • @neoroger510

    @neoroger510

    7 күн бұрын

    ​​@@PloopChuteBSP doesn't connect to your phone via USB right? How did you deal with charging your phone while playing? That's my major concern

  • @icestar65
    @icestar6523 күн бұрын

    We need a modern Sony Ericsson Xperia Play. A major manufacturer building a slick powerful device with built in controller would be perfect.

  • @RenardoRiley
    @RenardoRiley13 күн бұрын

    Sony fixed that problem years ago with the Experia play

  • @Bluegen78

    @Bluegen78

    8 күн бұрын

    Still got one at home, with custom rom and a bigger battery with modified back. Yes, batteries used to be easily removable even in weird phone form factors xD

  • @Downhuman74
    @Downhuman7424 күн бұрын

    Probably should've mentioned that Game Pass and Geforce Now will also run just fine with your phone using these devices. In fact, the original Kishi had a version specifically branded with Xbox controller buttons so that it could be used with Game Pass. It works surprisingly well, too.

  • @ShawnRaz87

    @ShawnRaz87

    17 күн бұрын

    The Xbox branding is irrelevant any version will work with game pass The PlayStation branding is important because only that version will work with the native remote play app on the Play store

  • @Downhuman74

    @Downhuman74

    17 күн бұрын

    @@ShawnRaz87 Correct. I was trying to draw attention to the fact that he kind of ignored Game Pass and GeForce Now and how this kind of setup is actually a great to access those services.

  • @Temmie_gaming
    @Temmie_gaming24 күн бұрын

    Back in 2018 or so 14 year old me played Mario kart 64 on my pixel on the plane with my Bluetooth controller and lemme tell you that was freaking amazing

  • @refluxology4335

    @refluxology4335

    24 күн бұрын

    jump

  • @Telerian3

    @Telerian3

    23 күн бұрын

    I had a folding Moga controller when this stuff was new. Horrible device. They are so much better now. I'd love to use my joycons on my fold 2

  • @lbnFadl

    @lbnFadl

    23 күн бұрын

    ???? ​@@refluxology4335

  • @Niborino9409

    @Niborino9409

    23 күн бұрын

    How time flies. When I was 14-15 I played Skyrim on a stationary PC. Handheld gaming only existed on handheld consoles like the Nintendo DS Lite 😅 Born in '94.

  • @shadow_uwu8103

    @shadow_uwu8103

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@Niborino9409the fact that nowadays Skyrim can be played through an Android phone is so wild.

  • @V3ntilator
    @V3ntilator23 күн бұрын

    Controller on phones are pointless when 99% of developers refuses to add controller support. Around year 2010 there were a lot of games with controller support, and it went downhill after that.

  • @lucasLSD

    @lucasLSD

    22 күн бұрын

    Hell to this day Genshin does not support controllers on android, only on iOS, it's as if someone is paying them to not do it.

  • @V3ntilator

    @V3ntilator

    22 күн бұрын

    @@lucasLSD I think i know why. Apple Arcade requires controller support. Android TV don't require it, but all games on Android TV supports controller. The only ones who ever pushed controller support on Android were Ouya and MOGA. Both companies have been gone for many years. They are probably the reasons why there were so many games with controller support around 2010.

  • @Se7en2107
    @Se7en210724 күн бұрын

    Bob really channeling his dad with that ad read

  • @dmr9457
    @dmr945724 күн бұрын

    love the dsi background music at the start 😩🤌✨

  • @jamesramos5442
    @jamesramos544223 күн бұрын

    Other pluses of the Backbone is that the triggers are analog, the and you can plug a usb-c cable into the passthrough port and connect the other end into any device and it will work as a wired controller. So if you travel with other, larger devices, you can still use the same controller.

  • @roflBeck

    @roflBeck

    20 күн бұрын

    I have that controller, didn't know that about it. Interesting.

  • @bigpboy1012
    @bigpboy101224 күн бұрын

    There was a company that released a Joy-Con grip that can also hold a phone in landscape mode. It was designed for the Nintendo Switch Online app, which only began to support landscape mode within the last year.

  • @victorlowe
    @victorlowe21 күн бұрын

    Razer finally learned that offset controls are more comfortable than vertical joycon layout

  • @wikwayer
    @wikwayer21 күн бұрын

    This thing cost the same price as the new nothing phone 🥶

  • @extenos
    @extenos24 күн бұрын

    perfect timing, i was looking at controllers for my s24 ultra and by some coincidence you posted this video today.

  • @crazystupidgamer

    @crazystupidgamer

    8 күн бұрын

    Buy a gameser g8. I've been in love with it for a while now. It's amazing.

  • @TheDiscardedFoot
    @TheDiscardedFoot21 күн бұрын

    just came from the external progression video. Excited to see more solutions in the future.

  • @Hightierian
    @Hightierian24 күн бұрын

    here a solution. Remember those sliding phones? like the sony erikson. Could we go back to that. Phones are powerful enough they just need physical buttons built in.

  • @robotninja530
    @robotninja53023 күн бұрын

    You gotta try this on a folding phone. The inner screen has a 5:4 aspect and makes retro games look great. You can also play in split screen and have a video or guide open while playing. Been doing this for years on my galaxy fold 3, and am surprised i haven't seen anybody mention it.

  • @patcormick
    @patcormick23 күн бұрын

    the bottom slide controller is hilarious - taking us back to the sidekick days lol

  • @7thHourFilms
    @7thHourFilms24 күн бұрын

    07:59 Where's Sony with the Xperia Play 2 when you need them?

  • @The_osric
    @The_osric20 күн бұрын

    Hey just wanted to say I have loved the vids for a few years now, and plan to stick with you. Thanks for the content and keep it up.

  • @Ad-im1ne
    @Ad-im1ne24 күн бұрын

    2:13 *casually shows off butterfly*

  • @Kbyte27
    @Kbyte2718 күн бұрын

    I use a clip or bracket that attaches my XBOX controller with my phone. Works really well, especially after pairing it with Mantis Gamepad Pro to map my controller input with touch controls.

  • @xmattar
    @xmattar24 күн бұрын

    Creeping up on 1 mil man Can't wait

  • @user-cr1vd8ig8r
    @user-cr1vd8ig8r19 күн бұрын

    Thanks for being there

  • @TheMegaJFrog
    @TheMegaJFrog16 күн бұрын

    wow this is amazing information to hear

  • @shyguytwopoint0
    @shyguytwopoint023 күн бұрын

    I use the backbone for my Sunshine server on my PC and at 10 MB the connection is super solid. Playing Wind Waker HD on my phone with barely any noticable latency, I forget I'm even streaming it. Childhood dream-level shit. Even on a mobile connection if you're ok with a bit of crust, but on a 720p phone screen you're not missing much. Cloud gaming from your own PC is wayyyyy better than a major provider imo

  • @FieryFiendJazz
    @FieryFiendJazz23 күн бұрын

    I wish i knew how to modify 3D print files, I've been wanting to do something like the vertical joycon grip you did for my android phone for ages

  • @majestyzx9081
    @majestyzx908124 күн бұрын

    I understand why it's required, but it kind of sucks having to remove and reinsert your phone from its case every time you use one of these devices.

  • @elirantuil5003

    @elirantuil5003

    23 күн бұрын

    You don't. My g8 works with a case on my android phone and if your phone case is thicker you can remove a part that's just there for gripping the phone (which you don't need because the case is grippy) and it works with a case. Kishy is just a terrible value device compared to both gamesir g8 and gamesir x2s and literally no one should buy it.

  • @theDitchdigger456

    @theDitchdigger456

    23 күн бұрын

    unless you're using one of those massive waterproof cases. you don't.

  • @crossmr

    @crossmr

    23 күн бұрын

    I have a galaxy S22 ultra that I use with a mocute 60 and never take the case of when using it.

  • @roflBeck

    @roflBeck

    20 күн бұрын

    Just don't get a case, problem solved lol.

  • @elirantuil5003

    @elirantuil5003

    20 күн бұрын

    @roflBeck and never drop your phone or have infinite money. Easy

  • @joshd108
    @joshd10811 күн бұрын

    Was thinking of an iPad mini since it has pencil support to finally retire my old pro and gen 1 pencil. The fact that this controller can work with it might convince me to pull the trigger. When traveling a kishi v2 and my 15 pro max is pretty awesome

  • @jamilpointer1354
    @jamilpointer135424 күн бұрын

    Loved the video. One thing I want to note though is, I swapped out the Kishi v2 that came with the Razer Edge and having been using this one instead. Its a beautiful combo. As for my iPhone, I'm using the new Scuf Nomad for that one. As a father of two small kids, I'm loving both setups right now.

  • @jesusmetal92107
    @jesusmetal9210724 күн бұрын

    I want my communication device to be separate from gaming device. When I have the few moments during the week to myself to play games, I want to make them dedicated to gaming and unplugged from the rest of the world.

  • @RGamer2009
    @RGamer200924 күн бұрын

    You didn't mention the PlayStation Phone, the Xperia Play that released way back in 2011. It had a slide out Gamepad built into the phone, and I have waited SO LONG for companies to attempt this again. Alas, none have bothered. It would be my ideal phone, and with modern streaming apps and good emulation, now would be the perfect time to release one. The slideout gamepad case has much potential and I can't wait to see where that goes from here.

  • @loldude118
    @loldude11824 күн бұрын

    Try out the GameSir G8 Galileo, it's like this controller but better

  • @himeeho

    @himeeho

    23 күн бұрын

    YES! Bob, you NEED to check out some GameSir products!

  • @MikeyRussell
    @MikeyRussell21 күн бұрын

    I’ve had the Kishi Ultra for a few days and paired it with my Lenovo Y700 2024 (import). It’s been an absolute monster - it basically becomes what you dreamed the PlayStation Portal would be

  • @labman472011
    @labman47201124 күн бұрын

    A monday video? Nice

  • @Sadtiric
    @Sadtiric24 күн бұрын

    Oh, I've been curious about this one. I've owned a few Moga controllers and grips, some various controller adapters, and recently a Backbone or two! 💚

  • @pinnkfrost
    @pinnkfrost23 күн бұрын

    Me. I specifically want to buy this as a gaming handheld for the iPad mini. I’ve been using a joycon adapter for it for years. Moonlight on the iPad mini is an incredible gaming experience and I recommend anyone give it a go. Definitely going to pick this up.

  • @SpookySkeletonGang
    @SpookySkeletonGang24 күн бұрын

    I'm using the gamesir g8 lately, it's honestly really good. I don't need to remove my case on my pixel 6, game streaming performance from my PC is fantastic with moonlight and sunshine (I played through a lot of elden ring on it), and it's cheaper than most options while being very comfortable.

  • @yochrisnelson
    @yochrisnelson24 күн бұрын

    You remain the undefeated champion of ad reads 👑

  • @nbaclips4040
    @nbaclips404024 күн бұрын

    This is a wulffden dad impression for an ad

  • @nbaclips4040
    @nbaclips404024 күн бұрын

    These are the reasons I like my backbone with a 15 pro: 1. Build quality issues with portable emulators (had an rg35xx and rp3+ become unusable). 2. Convenient to play games on my phone and then add a controller if I need (playing phoenix wright with touch controls then a controller for hades). 3. Light, going on a euro trip soon and a backbone controller is much lighter then a bigger emulator. 4. While I don’t use it often, having remote play for ps5 and steam is great. 5. In the future we’ll hopefully see GameCube, ps2 and more ports to ios.

  • @Ironically-Sarcastic

    @Ironically-Sarcastic

    24 күн бұрын

    GameCube and PS2 emulators won't be coming to the app store unfortunately, because they depend on dynamic recompilation to get any reasonable speed. The app store guidelines still specifically state that dynamic recompilation is against their terms, and that's mostly because it allows for viruses and malicious software to slip through their detection. If they allowed it, app developers could inject code that breaks all of Apple's other rules after the app had already been approved and downloaded onto people's phones.

  • @DubsBrown

    @DubsBrown

    23 күн бұрын

    I just hate the backbone app

  • @JJKSauce

    @JJKSauce

    23 күн бұрын

    @@DubsBrownWhy so?

  • @DubsBrown

    @DubsBrown

    22 күн бұрын

    @@JJKSauce it tries to get you to sign in every time you connect the controller. I got so annoyed I uninstalled the app but if you press the backbone button accidentally it tries to get you to reinstall.

  • @X862go
    @X862go17 күн бұрын

    Thanks Bob 👐

  • @Friskybusiness1
    @Friskybusiness123 күн бұрын

    bro an ipad mini with some of the good apple arcade games, some really good n64 and gba games and some good app store games would probably be so sick with a kishi.

  • @felixelton
    @felixelton24 күн бұрын

    I've been playing a lot more on my phone after I bought a Gamesir X2S. This combined with my Android phone was a budget solution to play emulation, some indie ports and remote play.

  • @talonpolad9953
    @talonpolad995322 күн бұрын

    dope vid

  • @NoobMaster-fw4hg
    @NoobMaster-fw4hg18 күн бұрын

    My very first smartphone was the Sony Xperia Play that had a slide out controller built-in. Roms were fun to play. It also had crash bandit pre installed. It was awesome!

  • @kalvin.
    @kalvin.24 күн бұрын

    I think there’s actually a lot of promise in this market, it’s just still so new and expensive relative to what you get. If you’re spending $800-1000+ on a powerful phone with a nice screen, and mobile gaming has got a lot of attention and development, it only makes sense to utilize it! With that said, $150 is too much for the compromises you mentioned. It still needs the one thing 99% of phones don’t have which is active cooling. Accessories exist for that purpose, but it’s still a nascent category and has its compromises, chief among which for me is that you can’t use your own case to fit the controller. To justify the hassle and bulk of carrying it around, it needs to be compatible with phones that have a normal size range of cases, provide active cooling, and at an affordable or sensible price.

  • @linkssz1699

    @linkssz1699

    23 күн бұрын

    Check out the gamesir X4, it's a split controller and it should leave enough room for a cooling fan.

  • @Mister_Phafanapolis

    @Mister_Phafanapolis

    23 күн бұрын

    I think if you're getting into peripherals with active cooling or proprietary cases with heat pipes, etc. then you're trying too hard. IMO an Android handheld gaming device like a Retroid Pocket or Ayn Odin would be a better choice for most people because it's a dedicated device built with cooling in mind, has built in controls/grips, it separates the functions of gaming/phone stuff, and generally looks cleaner, more cohesive, wholistic in design than a phone + series of peripherals.

  • @linkssz1699

    @linkssz1699

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Mister_Phafanapolis there are gaming phones like redmagic with active cooling and it's own game launcher, to me the retroid is a waste of money when my phone can do what that can plus more.

  • @lucasLSD

    @lucasLSD

    22 күн бұрын

    It's not new at all, I bought an ipega controller in 2017, it's just that phone devs do not give a shit to add controller support, you will literally only use them with emulators, when I would also want to use it on Honkai Impact or something.

  • @DigitalMoonlight

    @DigitalMoonlight

    15 күн бұрын

    The market is well over 10 years old, chief issues have been software support (Android updates especially frequently break old software and hardware compatibility) and the fact that gaming drains your battery very quickly.

  • @FerinaAryele
    @FerinaAryele24 күн бұрын

    I wish someone would make an actual controller phone case, just a case that you put around your phone and then you could just slide it out and have a controller and then slide it back in when your done. That simple. Imo bluetooth sucks I'd rather it be plugged into the USB C already and then the case have a port for USB c if you needed to charge it. I understand that might get quite bulky but personally that's what I want. I've tried using a Bluetooth Controller but there's just way too much lag it's like 1 second lag between clicks and it's awful. I wanted a Razor Kishi V1 but when I ordered it they gave me a V2 and I didn't like having to take my phone case completely off the V2 to use it so I returned it and never did manage to get a V1. I heard on V1 there was a rubber peice you could remove to use it without taking off your case and I liked how it folded up into a combat form because I found a case online for it to put it in for travelling. Edit: I kinda posted this before finishing the video and you did show one similiar to what I said lol

  • @Fernando-ek8jp

    @Fernando-ek8jp

    24 күн бұрын

    Not only that, but now you need different cases for different phones and that's a whole other issue

  • @FerinaAryele

    @FerinaAryele

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Fernando-ek8jp true every phones different that would be a huge pain...

  • @Fernando-ek8jp

    @Fernando-ek8jp

    24 күн бұрын

    @@FerinaAryele The m-con (look it up, it's a guy on KZread making his own prototype) seems to have a neat idea though: a magsafe compatible one. Not all phones have magsafe since it's an apple thing, but a lot of cases have magsafe compatible magnets. It's Bluetooth right now though, but at least in my experience those have worked fine for me.

  • @FerinaAryele

    @FerinaAryele

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Fernando-ek8jp that looks great but I use android now I'm done with apple devices

  • @Fernando-ek8jp

    @Fernando-ek8jp

    24 күн бұрын

    @@FerinaAryele well, but the only "apple" thing is the magsafe, not the interface. It's just a normal xinput controller. Again, there are android phones and cases that have a compatible magnet array, so those could work. I have a pixel phone, went on Amazon to look, I can get a case with magsafe compatible magnets for $20

  • @crimsoncraftycat4044
    @crimsoncraftycat404423 күн бұрын

    The 2nd edition Backbone for my iPhone 15 makes sense to me because I want to give mobile gaming a shot WITH a better experience for my hands. I played with the idea of a controller attachment because I have controllers laying around but having a dedicated phone controller - that also works on my PC (When you tried to connect the kishi, backbone has native support using the usb-c port at the bottom of the right side of the controller) is a more viable portable solution for travel that works better than bringing a separate controller with me. Perfect for a long trip and I have my laptop or my tablet - I can use it like any other controller and works.

  • @Derelict1
    @Derelict123 күн бұрын

    It is absolutely convenient to have a mobile phone and a handheld console with you! Who tf wants their gaming interrupted by a text or a phone call? Nobody.

  • @AndreasKingMedia
    @AndreasKingMedia24 күн бұрын

    I feel like the reason you don't understand the market for that controller is because you HAVE all those other handhelds. Plenty of people have expensive and powerful phones because of carrier subsidies, but no gaming handhelds at all. In that case, it seems pretty easy to justify spending under $200 on an attachment for your phone instead of spending even more money on a handheld that will STILL be substantially less powerful than a modern top of the line smartphone. On top of that, if you're the kind of person who upgrades your phone every few years, you get to bring your controller along with you even more powerful device.

  • @Eskoxo

    @Eskoxo

    24 күн бұрын

    if you can justify $200 for attachment at that point justify $300 and get a lcd steam deck.

  • @AndreasKingMedia

    @AndreasKingMedia

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Eskoxo I mean the jump from $150 and $300 is 2x that's not insubstantial

  • @hi_tech_reptiles

    @hi_tech_reptiles

    23 күн бұрын

    Interesting, the first half of those arguments are reasons I've seen for dedicated handhelds. Many people have cheap phones, especially younger people or they don't like smart phones or want to game without the phone temptation/interruption, and given solid emulation devices that do more than any phone under $500 are like, $150-200 let alone the more expensive ones, if you don't have a high end phone plan situation or sometimes even if you do, a cheaper android handheld makes more sense for many, or a mid range one even.

  • @AndreasKingMedia

    @AndreasKingMedia

    23 күн бұрын

    @@hi_tech_reptiles from my experience most young people have reasonably modern iPhones, or Samsung galaxies. They definitely sell huge volumes of them every year. Carrier plans make it pretty attractive for people, even if they really don't need the performance. For sure if you don't have a powerful phone and you don't feel that you want one then a dedicated handheld makes sense.

  • @tirogaiden

    @tirogaiden

    23 күн бұрын

    Now with hall effect sticks its even better because It Just last longer than a Common gamepad

  • @c0wg0d
    @c0wg0d13 күн бұрын

    Still rocking my Anbernic RG351P. It does everything I need for mobile gaming.

  • @glasssawsslipperstraws7410
    @glasssawsslipperstraws741024 күн бұрын

    I think another point towards dedicated handhelds are that phone storage is just very precious. A ton of phones don't have expandable storage (i think this is abhorrent but that's another conversation) so if you download apps and games you're taking tons of space. My little RP4 pro is nice cuz I'm not wasting my phone's battery and it has its own storage so i can put all my games there. I like phone controllers but i would rather have my phone for phone stuff and my gaming handheld for gaming stuff.

  • @Audibleknight
    @Audibleknight23 күн бұрын

    I ended up settling on playing games on my phone using an 8bitdo SN30 Pro while traveling. Small enough to toss in a carry on bag and not taking up a lot of space while also being a good controller input for games like Genshin etc when I'm away from my PC.

  • @CroakPad
    @CroakPad23 күн бұрын

    I really want to try the Mcon controller.

  • @talhatariq653
    @talhatariq65322 күн бұрын

    I loved the nintendo ds music in the intro

  • @vhalrougelarfouxe
    @vhalrougelarfouxe23 күн бұрын

    As someone who owns an ROG phone 5, I actually worked some bits of my DOBE controller to align with the 2nd usb c port. now I just slide my phone in and out like a switch, and its freaking amazing.

  • @gijogijo
    @gijogijo23 күн бұрын

    Hey I actually have it for the ipad mini to use with moonlight x) I recommend it btw, it is super cool

  • @Crowfist
    @Crowfist24 күн бұрын

    I bought a 50$ phone with a snapdragon 845 and use it as a dedicated gaming device. phones are so plentiful and cheap im glad there are controllers for everything from heavy gaming ergonomics to pocketable phone controllers.

  • @iseptimus
    @iseptimus21 күн бұрын

    A caser that works with all the controllers is the Pitaka Aramid. Expensive, but worth it.

  • @erickmoy
    @erickmoy10 күн бұрын

    The controller that eternal progression is making is really convenient. It's pocket-able and Magsafe compatible, it means, you don't have to remove your case. Just attach or detach on-the-go.

  • 13 күн бұрын

    One scenario I see myself using my phone with a controller like the Backbone One instead of a portable emulation machine like a Steam Deck or a PlayStation Vita is RetroAchievements, specifically while on the go. Those require you to be connected to the internet, and then running the game on the phone and strapping the controller - even if you need to remove the case, which is the case of the Backbone One, at least the old generation I have here - is more convenient then getting your phone, setting up a mobile hotspot, getting your other emulation device and connecting to it.

  • @ratykat
    @ratykat22 күн бұрын

    For phone controllers, the Nacon Mg-x Pro (the xbox one) is so good. Genuinely console feeling buttons and sticks, holds my Fold 5 perfectly

  • @peterkane9264
    @peterkane926423 күн бұрын

    I rock the gamesir x2 because it connects via bluetooth and has a ridged back so my phone feels supported. Being able to use it as a controller for my PC when I was in the hospital was brilliant, and tossing it in my bag takes up less space than my Switch Lite

  • @josefuentes1008
    @josefuentes100817 күн бұрын

    Great video! For me I use my razer kishi v2 for streaming my pc with moonlight. It's great to be able to play jrpg's when out and about or when I'm at home and just want to play on the couch instead of my pc desk. Sure I can use my Steam Deck for that but sometimes I just want a smol device.

  • @yicklemypickle8716
    @yicklemypickle871623 күн бұрын

    Remember to keep the guy behind the M-Con on your radar, dude’s got a crazy good concept for a mobile controller that attaches to the back thru MagSafe and I think it’s gonna blow anything else outta the water!

  • @Danikeib
    @Danikeib23 күн бұрын

    You should look into the mcon controller. It looks like an promising project. I really like the format

  • @Nate_Joe
    @Nate_Joe7 күн бұрын

    Two things that make the Razer Kishi Ultra my preference over a ROG Ally: 1. A Foldable Phone 2. Moonlight/Steam Link to remote into your gaming PC If you already have a gaming PC, and especially if you have a foldable android phone, the Kishi ultra is the device for you. I returned my ROG and now play on a larger screen and delay of around 10ms or less if I'm on the same local network as the gaming PC (I really don't travel much I just like playing handheld in bed) You should look more into remote gaming! It's much stronger than cloud gaming. The key is to remote into your own hardware

  • @rurounisora
    @rurounisora23 күн бұрын

    I'll be expecting your review of the M-Con 😎

  • @MrKyGuy
    @MrKyGuy23 күн бұрын

    The Scuff Nomad seems sweet.

  • @DigitalMoonlight
    @DigitalMoonlight15 күн бұрын

    The biggest barrier to mobile gaming has been software support, software support breaks frequently, especially on Android and it's difficult or impossible for older mobile games to run on modern OSes. This doesn't even get into other massive issues like the app stores, though that would be solvable on Android with a third party app store. The hardware has been here for a long time, we just need the software to settle.

  • @jimbobcheezeburger2020
    @jimbobcheezeburger202023 күн бұрын

    AyaNeo Pocket S was so close to being the best option as a phone

  • @rubin_sandwich12
    @rubin_sandwich1223 күн бұрын

    Galileo G8 with the Galaxy Fold 4 has been pretty stellar. Fold direction is more palatable with the larger controller, and i already don't use a case with it usually. Plus it has a PS mode as a quick swap feature so its compatibility is hard to beat.

  • @persechini
    @persechini24 күн бұрын

    I missed a side-to-side comparison with the gamesir G8, witch is the more similar in form factor I've enjoyed a time with the RP3+, the first gen kishi, and a generic bt telescopic controller that got some recommendations a few years back, but the gamesir G8 was the first one that got me really going for it and enjoying steamlink more in addition to emulators. It's a bit bulkier than the RP3+ and other controllers (just like the kishi ultra), but there is plenty space in my backpack and my phone is a more capable device anyway. Plus, I enjoy the xbox-like shape, even for retro gaming, the lower dpad is no issue to me

  • @NiteSheyde
    @NiteSheyde23 күн бұрын

    Come for the ad reads, stay for the video

  • @xbadjokerx
    @xbadjokerx23 күн бұрын

    Since I still use a Huawei P30 Pro as my main phone for 5 years now, the Razer Junglecats are the way to go. Not great for ergonomic, but super portable. And with the special 3D printed carrying middle piece I designed, it's easy and safe to just pop them on a small bag like a fanny bag or even a large pocket, since the 3d printed middle piece provides protection for the sticks, something the original middle piece doesn't.

  • @rik666
    @rik66624 күн бұрын

    I have a backbone and a GameSir G8. Both really great for different use cases.

  • @decki86
    @decki8618 күн бұрын

    Tried many. Backbone one is the best

  • @Gerflap
    @Gerflap22 күн бұрын

    Cell phone and the 8BitDo SNES with thumb stick controller is my go to for mobile games when I’m not on my Steam Deck

  • @NISHIAKI
    @NISHIAKI24 күн бұрын

    I was just looking into finally getting a mini emulator device when I saw someone post their funky phone solution: an 8bitdo micro with a suction cup patch on the back, stuck onto their phone screen (for portrait mode emulation). So I ordered the controller and an adhesive suction cup patch to do the same for myself haha. Fingers crossed it'll suit my needs.

  • @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ
    @AlejandroCaicedoPUJ24 күн бұрын

    Maybe if you tried the bsp d8 or d10 you would change your mind since they are very cheap and have pretty much every feature you could ask for

  • @jamesburke2759
    @jamesburke275923 күн бұрын

    The backbone is great. its super comfortable and works well with RetroArch. Shame about the clicky buttons though. im a huge fan of soft touch DS Lite Style.

  • @Valion13Gaming2
    @Valion13Gaming221 күн бұрын

    I've been using the gamesir g8 with my s24 ultra, and I gotta say for emulation, and for game streaming, I kinda love it. Having to take it out of the case does suck though

  • @dooffff
    @dooffff23 күн бұрын

    Canola oil was originally used for machine lubricant

  • @somecallmesean_
    @somecallmesean_23 күн бұрын

    i mainly turned my phone into something that does handheld games up to psp and consoles up to the n64 (minus those n64 decomps) my steam deck is mostly for pc games and gamecube and up and 3ds for ds and 3ds (i can’t stand using a single screen device for dual screen games)

  • @matthewjefferis9451
    @matthewjefferis945123 күн бұрын

    ❤ thanks again.

  • @goldenplayer4966
    @goldenplayer496611 күн бұрын

    All a controller needs is 2 analogs and 4 shoulder buttons, but the analogs under the phone and the triggers over it, the rest of the buttons can be mapped into the screen, for the "feeling" you can have a screen protector with some groover where the buttons would be, using gyroscope is a must, you get the camera very sensible and to have a better aim set up the gyroscope to give that last adjust before a headshot.

  • @Zathren
    @Zathren24 күн бұрын

    Not gonna lie. I was expecting it to be over 200.

  • @ramrodbldm9876

    @ramrodbldm9876

    24 күн бұрын

    Why would you lie? Man you copy paste clown are something else

  • @Mister_Phafanapolis

    @Mister_Phafanapolis

    23 күн бұрын

    In six to twelves months it'll be half price or less. I bought a V2 off of ebay for less than $30.

  • @rillagoo
    @rillagoo24 күн бұрын

    Who else is here for the flawless tri-state commercial parodies

  • @nnoxx1935
    @nnoxx193523 күн бұрын

    “Why dont i make my phone a console?” M-con aint drop yet

  • @ChaosXification
    @ChaosXification23 күн бұрын

    I have a GameSir G8 Galileo and its great, its also like $100 so a bit over priced but good build quality

  • @winkblink8636
    @winkblink863623 күн бұрын

    I used the original Razor Kishi with my Galaxy S20 for emulation after college and while I was in grad school since my gaming laptop died as soon as I finished undergrad. It was a good way to save money while in grad school, the OG Kishi being more convenient for putting in my school bag, ready for a quick break during long days of writing and research. Since then, I upgraded to a Steam Deck OLED. I'm not quite living out of a suitcase anymore but the Deck has made gaming more convenient and the screen is amazing. I'm finally able to go through my Steam backlog of over a decade (lots of sales), and do some emulation all in one beautiful device. I only see myself going back to my phone for emulation when I upgrade next year to the Galaxy S25 Ultra, specifically for certain DS and 3DS games where touch is essential. I will use the included phone stylus or perhaps I will buy a used 3DS to play DS and 3DS roms.

  • @jleza
    @jleza15 күн бұрын

    Honestly i kinda found a niche with this controllers. I need a secondary controller when my friends are in my house, or i want to play with my brother or family. But I also want to play games with my Moto G200 when I just do not want to go to the pc. I bought 2 BSP-D3 that works with Bluetooth and USB-C and they are nice. Now I bought a G8 Gallileo, which doesn't have a easy way to connet to pc (is funny how the 8$ bsp-d3 has usbc for data and the 55$ not), but it sort of can via a usb female to female, then usbc to usbc. So, I think for a secondary controller that you can use in everything they are actually really nice.

  • @DJKento
    @DJKento24 күн бұрын

    I have the Razer Kishi Ultra coming tomorrow and I have an iPad mini. I'll tell you how it goes.

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