The wooden tyre was the best in my old days.

@dantlanz9239

Ай бұрын

How 'old' exactly are your days?

@rohns2952

Ай бұрын

The old winter tires with sawdust in the rubber worked pretty good!

@Chickhunters

Ай бұрын

I remember those days no punctures and spinal shock absorption, those wooden wheels were the best, they don't make em like they used to

@jacka3280

Ай бұрын

R u a vampire? You use that wood these day with fast cars bro will be sliding from one destination to another instead of spinning

@anibalbabilonia1867

Ай бұрын

👋🤣👍that’s it! You won 🏆 best comment right here folks! Lmfaooo!

How expensive are they? YES

@deancornett5155

25 күн бұрын

I’m guessing it’s one of those “if you have to ask you can’t afford it”

@DeadPiixxel

25 күн бұрын

yes is not a number

@stgeorge4559

25 күн бұрын

They want to help the environment so they charge a premium for it to manipulate you to care lol

@josedinsmore7373

24 күн бұрын

It’s an investment tho

@paperwizard5982

24 күн бұрын

that background song..i swear it sounds exactly like korn

"It is ready for production and commercial use" They have kept saying this for the past 20 years!!!

@meair

18 күн бұрын

tbf it’s being used commercially

@rodneyjeudin6310

11 күн бұрын

Brooooooooooooooooooo like WTF

@curtisday7827

10 күн бұрын

The plant I work in uses them on some of their machinery

@Zenai01

10 күн бұрын

30 years bro, 30......

@Backlash00z89

10 күн бұрын

​@@curtisday7827I mean yeah like forecliffs and other major machinery meant to carry more weight lol but they don't do a whole lot of shock absorption primarily and when they do it's a t slow speeds not highway speeds

I just see an issue with snow or water getting in the middle and driving in those conditions can alter the way the tire flexes. As well as driving fast and turning. Without a sidewall that’s filled with air, that may be a hazard in those scenarios

@newfie-dean5803

13 күн бұрын

I think they show it like that for visual purposes to show how it works but that a commercial tire would have rubber covering over the sidewall so that it would look no different than a normal tire. If they had it open like that it would pick up rocks and fling them, etc. Also, one can only imagine the pranks that would happen with people inserting sticks, etc into the open cavities.

@ThattSwaggUnltd

13 күн бұрын

@@newfie-dean5803 ahh a covered sidewall would be a great fix I see what you mean. Yeah exposed sides is trouble

@JPoofield

11 күн бұрын

@@newfie-dean5803even still it would technically be filled with air and the more the wear and tear the more exposure to the inside it would have. I hope they find a good way to implement this for the environment but I don’t see a way to do it reasonably

@Dave-dh7rt

4 күн бұрын

@@newfie-dean5803ive seen them on mowers and they arent covered. Riding mowers weigh almost as much as a car, my moms ferris 60” weighs 1600lbs.

@JingaBBB

12 сағат бұрын

Yeah two things you’ve mentioned are obsolete, they have side walls.

They’re widely used on heavy construction equipment, lawn mowers, and landfill machinery. Just not cars. They’re also really expensive, that’s why they’re not widely used.

@user-zb9lv3gh8s

22 күн бұрын

A company I do work for has dozens of pieces of heavy machinery and not a single airless tire. Forklifts yeah, cause they only roll on smoothe concrete floors, but anything that has to deal with roads? I don't think so.

@leoncaples2947

20 күн бұрын

Even those are different. They're special made and foam filled.

@newliner26

18 күн бұрын

​@leoncaples2947 I have a skid loader that has Michelin Tweel tires on it -- same design from the video. They're popular for lighter equipment like mowers and skid steers.

@ShadMuffin

18 күн бұрын

​@@leoncaples2947Yeah this is what Lull tires are, can actually lose chunks and still use it perfectly. Costs more than some peoples cars though

@desibur8558

13 күн бұрын

Well worth it in the long run

"Looks like Michelan addressed most of the issues, and they'll soon be on the market." Let me guess; the issue they _didn't_ address was the price.

@allyourbaseman

23 күн бұрын

The also didn’t didn’t address the other issues. They just decided that they spent enough time and money on development and it’s now “good enough” to sell to you at a premium

@kp117

19 күн бұрын

$999.99 per tire😂

@barcotics1880

18 күн бұрын

and why would they?

@royalcrewnepal5449

18 күн бұрын

Why should they they are trying to produce good quality tires sorry if you're broke dude some people can actually purchase it

@Berezzy

18 күн бұрын

That’s how they start, and then they get cheaper.

Forget the cost, these things are LOUD! The road noise you experience with these on is close to if not as loud as some exhausts

@poplaurentiu4148

13 күн бұрын

Also might be heavier overall thus a car fitted full on 4 wheels with these wheels might consume more and nobody say anything about how well they are handling under heavy breaking, in rain, snow or on highway speeds above 100 km/h..

@michaelmontgomery5872

9 күн бұрын

Exactly that's what Elon Musk said

They keep trying to get a balance between deformation and shock absorption -- between "too soft and gets bent out of shape easily" and "too firm and gives you a bumpy ride"

We don't need an airless tyre we need airless politicians

@DC_R

Ай бұрын

clean skies would be nice too

@MoltenSamurai

29 күн бұрын

And Biden too while you’re at it

@jjc4577

29 күн бұрын

and the entire leadership corps of congress

@loualbino5536

29 күн бұрын

I can't believe people still hate trump after biden has bled us all dry with high inflation and taxes. You must be one of those "14th amendment loophole" Americans who's worried about your pathetic parents inevitable deportation.

@dwaynemassengill2735

29 күн бұрын

Absolutely right

A big problem is the tread. A lot of tires need to be replaced because the tread wears out. Most people see these and think they would never had to replace a tire again, but because of the tread they will end up replacing a lot of tires anyway. Because the airless tires use more material they will cost more and could generate even more waste/pollution.

@Lucifurion

25 күн бұрын

@jackventure3703 Not a problem if you can have them retreaded.

@emperora9

25 күн бұрын

This, exactly.

@mikanunx

25 күн бұрын

I'd say the vast majority of tyres, at least in my country, are replaced exactly because of thread wear. Dirt roads are not common, here, even in the countryside. So, that mindset wouldn't be the norm. Yes, there are refurbished tyres, but people think they're less safe and heavier, only suited for agricultural machines/tractors. By the way, these must be a lot heavier than regular tyres.

@jamesramirez8685

23 күн бұрын

No, like the other post stated they will be retreaded. The tire place will just send the used ones back for that. So less rubber is required. Any one that is damaged beyond repair will be recycled. Tires are my life. This has been in development for over 20 years and millions in research

@staples138

22 күн бұрын

Because they weigh more and have no real sidewall for support they generate MORE heat

Michelin: we rolling out airless tires boys German TÜV: hold my beer, I'm about to ruin everyone's hopes and dreams

Air is very important for our rapid movement

Airless basketballs, airless tires, next up: airless air

@WillEndSeraFin

28 күн бұрын

Whait for Nike Airless 😂

@microcap1997

28 күн бұрын

Airless hot air balloons.

@Brosky305

28 күн бұрын

Waiting for airless potato chips

@selenalewis6429

28 күн бұрын

@@Brosky305that’s the one thing that will never be airless.

@leinadyon

28 күн бұрын

Airless bollocks

Dont forget about load distribution, air pneumatic tyres distribute the load along the entire wheel with the pressurized air while the airless tyre would trasfer it directly. This would greatly reduce the lifespan of the wheel itself.

@michaelw1665

26 күн бұрын

My guess is that any towing will require a very expensive one design for towing

@coolbionicle

26 күн бұрын

@@michaelw1665 not to mention the disaster that potholes would cause.

@goodo4668

26 күн бұрын

100% so you replace the wheel not just the tyre as they are one unit.

@KarnageGaming

25 күн бұрын

thats why most airless tyres are more of a solid design. however the draw back is if u brake suddenly youll destroy the tyre and it will be all deformed having flat spots where u braked.

@jaymuffinz

25 күн бұрын

@@goodo4668that can be fixed by offering replaceable tire tread “wraps” that cover the inner airless core

If they aren't lying and production costs are actually slightly higher by like $4. It's only because the engineers had to make a new model. Once the model is made it's just injected again. So the price increase is so small it wouldn't matter and it would definitely not affect the market value. However they say that so they can charge you a lot more

The airless tire has only been around for 30 years... but it's almost ready...lmao

Definitely a head ache for police when chasing criminals.

@kerrybarneyiii1202

Ай бұрын

They’ll just roll out… THE GRAPPLER!!! Assuming they are chasing of course, not waiting to catch

@christopherwellman2364

Ай бұрын

A spike strip will still get caught in the tire and slow them down.

@DarknessXER

Ай бұрын

They have stuff that can lasso onto tires now and stop cars fast and safely

@hexaheart

Ай бұрын

The police are the criminals, think again!

@Thejbirdy

Ай бұрын

They have a better system now...works like a net.

Did they solve the major issue of falling APART at high speeds 😮😮😮

@sesh4ngi

28 күн бұрын

that’s what i’m wondering

@coreyclouston4401

28 күн бұрын

No, they're just gonna let everyone who drives on the highway crash and die

@hendriksteller5818

28 күн бұрын

​@@coreyclouston4401Sounds legit

@Feeling_Frisky

28 күн бұрын

@@coreyclouston4401hey buddy watch your got damn mouth

@doctorrtd4326

28 күн бұрын

​​@@Feeling_Friskydon't wanna make the big corpos mad

They make these for commercial lawn mowers and they are great and designed to last alot longer. My biggest concern after using them for a while would definitely be how smooth the ride and if the ridges that make the tire airless get damaged it can ruin the whole tire. They mower ones are also really expensive. Can only imagine how much ones for a car would cost.

@Dave-dh7rt

4 күн бұрын

I would be worried about higher speeds above 60mph as well as deformation under hard braking or turning, causing the car to loose traction and crash

Criminals with cars:

The most important problems to be solved when engineering tires is safety, handling, cost, ability to handle inclement weather and rough terrain, and longevity. Flats are not a serious problem and it was solved a 100 years ago - you carry a spare. I have been driving for over 50 years and won't buy a vehicle that doesn't have a spare. I think I have had maybe 4 flats, mostly when I was young. So I get a flat maybe once every 13-15 years, change the tire, and off I go.

@jeanbcadeau7702

27 күн бұрын

You didn't address the tire waste issue.

@cautarepvp2079

26 күн бұрын

​@@jeanbcadeau7702 Recycle... ♻️

@waynelapage6328

26 күн бұрын

And also when it comes to Flats when I buy a car if it has a dummy Tire I'll go to the junkyard buy the right size wheel and go get the right size tire for a spare

@SPECTTRE13

26 күн бұрын

​@@waynelapage6328most japs like Lexus and Toyota ALWAYS come with full size spares, funny how Mercs and Bmw cost a lot but have dummy spares😂😂

@zenithperigee7442

26 күн бұрын

@drwilsom1, my question is, given this will "defeat the purpose of spike strips", what will law enforcement have to come up with to ensure they can still disable regular tires and now these too without first having to "identify that the vehicle doing 100mph" actually has "airless tires"....

Most important reason… tire manufacturers will lose money from tire replacements

@Nitro9n

28 күн бұрын

They’d still need to be replaced like normal tires. Without tread wear there’d be no grip.

@RR-lj3ip

27 күн бұрын

​@@Nitro9n But then Michelin would become a monopoly... Either way, it's all about money.

@Nitro9n

27 күн бұрын

@@RR-lj3ip what makes you think they’d be a monopoly?

@WTmac1993

27 күн бұрын

How they gonna lose money selling these outrageously overpriced tweels? Lmao

@TheInsomniaddict

27 күн бұрын

These things would likely wear out faster than normal tires. To top it off, if you want new ones you need to buy new rims as well. It wouldn't put anyone out of business.

I saw some of these on a zero turn yesterday at a garden center. I remember seeing these as a concept years ago and had no idea they started being produced. I thought it was neat to see them in person for a real use case and not just a staged display

This actually his best put together response yet

So stabbing my neighbours tyre will soon be completely pointless!

@yeahnah1762

Ай бұрын

concerned on why you were doing that to begin with tbh

@dromnispank4723

Ай бұрын

@@yeahnah1762 he said he didn't think Minecraft was a very good game!

@beatdeeznutz

Ай бұрын

they stole his sandwich probably ​@@yeahnah1762

@ddoubledutch4783

Ай бұрын

😂😂

@dantlanz9239

Ай бұрын

You're funny. Like, criminally funny.

Because the constant flexing will wear out the rubber until it cracks/snaps and rocks and other debris will get in between and rip them to pieces.😅

@joelmogensen579

29 күн бұрын

Cover the side wall with thin rubber to keep out mud and debris.

@adamstilwell4209

29 күн бұрын

Winter is the real problem here. Once the rubber hits freezing temperature those joints will become brittle.

@haze_2563

28 күн бұрын

It’s called….a concept😮 the worlds first car couldn’t run more than 2 or 3 miles without the engine overheating, imagine if they had stopped there because of that💀 it’s a work in progress, all new technology is

@user-qw6es4ly3g

28 күн бұрын

​@@adamstilwell4209 that wouldn't be too much of a problem considering that we have to switch between regular tires and softer more frost-resistant tires anyway. What I'm worried about is turning because when you turn you create a force that tries to push the inner section of a tire sideways, outside of the outer part that's in contact with the road, and these filaments holding them together don't look like they will like that type of strain

@francishankin3981

27 күн бұрын

@@haze_2563 this shits like 15 years old. michellin perfected this tech over 10 years ago. its already in space. they abandoned airless rubber tyres in exchange for the style they put on lunar rovers now made from mesh.

If you drive fast and turn fast the tire rips

Wheel companies won't agree with this idea

Oldsmobile in the 70's had a composite rim instead of steel, which heat and bumps deformed and cracked them creating an actual leak on the tubeless tire..it was an item ahead of it's time

@GlobalManny.

12 күн бұрын

I feel like this “airless tire” would malfunction immediately when you turn left or right tho, this is why we only see footage of driving straight forward

@d.b.coopers.strongest.soldier

10 күн бұрын

@@GlobalManny.how so?

Balance is a problem if mud gets in the open sidewall.

@rosegold-beats

Ай бұрын

Then close it easy solution😂

@leed2883

Ай бұрын

The open side wall is a demonstration of how it works .not the final product

@blumobean

Ай бұрын

@@rosegold-beats then it becomes a tubeless tire.

@blumobean

Ай бұрын

@@leed2883 you are wrong. The tire has to stay open. If it is closed, the air would be compressed.

@dheerajmurthy393

Ай бұрын

@@blumobeanthey can allow the air to leak no problem

I think these would be great for an off-road user. I’ve been thinking about getting some from my quad if I can. If I can get about the same thread surface area as an air down tire with an aggressive tread pattern I would absolutely get these. The biggest problem I see is that they would need to be replaced after the tread is gone however, from mostly off-road use that won’t be an issue.

Bro really reinvented the wheel

I had these on my John Deere mower Since 2015 and I wouldn’t put them on my car until they deal with the shock absorption issue. But they are excellent for landscaping

So when it comes time for a new tire you have to buy an entire wheel

@WTmac1993

27 күн бұрын

For an outrageous amount of money.

@user-zb9lv3gh8s

22 күн бұрын

Yep... That's the plan

@Perry24680

22 күн бұрын

No. This is clearly not going to replace regular tires. More flasky if anything.

@KenRobinsonchannel

21 күн бұрын

They didn’t say that. When they mentioned aluminum they weren’t referencing the wheel.

Airless tires work well off road at low speeds. I believe the issues are impact force, lateral force and centripetal force at highway speed. Another issue could be turbulence creating drag and reducing fuel mileage

"Redce Rubber waste" made my Day XD

Pipe dream. There’s no way in hell that design will last 85,000 miles

@misscyanic2484

11 күн бұрын

they WOULD be awesome spares tho!

@siloedspace

9 күн бұрын

do normal tires last 85,000 miles? genuine question

@daltonmaddox6404

9 күн бұрын

@@siloedspaceyup

@levibaer18

9 күн бұрын

@@siloedspace I have a 2013 f150 and I’ve only on my third set. First set changed out at 85,000 miles, second set changed out at 165,000. Currently at 215,000 miles and going strong.

@Professor-Scientist

9 күн бұрын

My tyres last about 30k miles. Michelin ps5 on f21 xdrive

I’ll buy a set after them run them in NASCAR.

@binaypatel7665

Ай бұрын

One of the worst motorsports

@EMichaelBall

Ай бұрын

Who is signed with Goodyear

@JOSEF_GAMING45

Ай бұрын

NASCAR is awesome.

@santostv.

Ай бұрын

Only formula 1 we aren’t Americans 😂

@Anatoli_Punto

Ай бұрын

​@@binaypatel7665 even if you think so, nascar is a motorsport that's really tough on tires, so it'd be a pretty good test for these

Had the airless tires on the zero turn mowers when I worked for this landscaping company.. they were the greatest thing ever made it very easy to hop curbs

These have been around for over 10 years and are very common on lawn mowers skid loaders etc

A tire with air not only would be cheaper to manufacture, but it would offer superior performance. I wonder if Michelin might want to explore that avenue.

@Bl4ckD0g

Ай бұрын

That was mentioned in the video as the main reason why these aren't exactly standard.

@jaxithfox

Ай бұрын

These definitely would not be cheaper to manufacturer. The mold would be more complex with at least 4-6 parts instead of the two they have now.

@vanphonglam9696

Ай бұрын

Then can sell something called the fancy cover

@mef12727

Ай бұрын

​@@Bl4ckD0gjoke went over your brain

@bcarss1970

Ай бұрын

Please explain how the manufacturing would be cheaper and an what the performance gains would be?

Another bad thing about it is that you can't put weight on it so you can't pull trailers

@ConduitKingg

3 күн бұрын

They should be ok for compact vehicles and smaller SUVs

I remember seeing an early variation of this in 1999 (im getting old). I've always thought about since, especially now that I'm an adult and have to deal with flat tires.

I was literally thinking about making a tyre exactly like this yesterday

"you can't get a flat tire with these tires but you can't go over 50mph without life threatening consequence"😂

@anthonybaldwin6723

26 күн бұрын

This the question I was looking for.

@quest2782

26 күн бұрын

That's not to bad actually.

@StockTurboN20

26 күн бұрын

@@quest278250? Highway speeds are 70+ what about then?

@ssjgreensamurai7348

26 күн бұрын

​@@quest2782highways

I have these Michelin tires on my lawn mowers. For a pair of 20” tires it’s $1,100 and for my 24” tires, they’re $750 each so $1,500 for a pair. They’re good for mowers but not sure how well they’ll be on a car.

@dukecraig2402

Ай бұрын

Good God almighty what kind of a lawn mower do you have that putting on tires that cost thousands of dollars makes it worthwhile? Suddenly my 24 horsepower 52" deck Husqvarna riding mower seems inadequate, I may be suffering from deck envy here.

@Already100

Ай бұрын

And at my local harbor freight $35 a tire😂

@bambeeziee2186

Ай бұрын

@@dukecraig2402lol I have a John Deere z920M 60” and a toro 52” grandstand. I do roadside mowing like highways and stuff so we were catching flats every other day. These tires saved a lot of time and money.

@anibalbabilonia1867

Ай бұрын

@@bambeeziee2186👌😂👍well! That explains it!

@sootuckchoong7077

Ай бұрын

So expensive, is it worth it?

To solve or partially address airless tire defects, you can simply apportion some sections of the tire to contain air. This would reduce some problems easily.

The cops wont be able to stop criminals with these tires

Last time Michelin tried to reinvent the wheel with their PAX tire system on the Honda Odyssey it resulted in lots of angry customers, extremely limited availability, high replacement costs, poor wear and performance, lawsuits, and finally a regular tire option.

@andrewpolasek5524

Ай бұрын

Yes, and the TRX tire/wheel combo was a disaster also.

@mrsheabutter

29 күн бұрын

Haha I remember that

@MoctezumasRevenge1

28 күн бұрын

we had to have a special machine that could install them and only one of us knew how to install it. total shit show.

Just to give you an idea of price: A Air less tire for an a ATV/UTV start at $799 each..

@user-bt8xr5si9y

18 күн бұрын

So an entire set would cost you around $3200? That's ridiculous

@professorfansworth4923

15 күн бұрын

How would you air down for a sandy/muddy area if there is no air? Also wouldn’t the crevices in the side of the airless tires get full of rocks/mud making them unbalanced?

@MONKMIKE

15 күн бұрын

@@professorfansworth4923 There's Pro's n Con's to these particular tire's my friend. Many people don't know but NASA designed these for their Rover's n also Military spec for Humvee's. But yes, they do have much downsides + a hefty price tag, but at least you won't need to carry an air compressor.. 👍🏻😎😆

@kj7792

14 күн бұрын

Finally someone put the price out there❤ thanks. Big no for me

Back in my day we use cans for tires

The rim will bend on a hard impact

Only useful as an emergency spare. Cannot be used as a touring or performance tyre. Gas milage will also decrease, rolling resistance looks to probably be much higher. Best to be used in poor street quality situations or as an emergency spare, or on an offroad or construction vehicles.

@Sammyli99

Ай бұрын

by "poor street quality" you mean daily driving in the UK.

@burakoshimazaki

13 күн бұрын

@@Sammyli99 UK (probably) has better streets than the US.

@Sammyli99

13 күн бұрын

@@burakoshimazaki You are right, UK streets the pot holes are held together with speed bumps, I live in neither, have lived in Both.

Mud: "I'm about to end this man's whole career"💀

A tyre company that rates restaurants 🙏🏻

In conclusion, we haven't invented anything yet.

I've seen these on construction vehicles like front end loaders and small cranes. The fiber spokes were alot thicker and instead of one set radiating out, they had a few that would criss-cross each other. It makes sense to use such tires for these environments. I saw in the construction zones lots of debri like nails what would puncture a tire.

@dukecraig2402

Ай бұрын

Most tires on construction equipment like that have calcium filled tires, if you look at the wheels instead of having a normal tire stem with a Schrader valve in the tip they have a pipe sticking out of them with a typical cap on the end that looks just like the kind of pipe end caps you can buy at Home Depot that have typical NPT threads that all pipes and pipe fittings have. The calcium is a light grey color slimy liquid that won't freeze, exactly why that's used to fill tires on equipment like that I don't know basically because I never ask anyone in all the years I spent on construction site's as an ironworker, aside from it not freezing I don't know what the advantages are over just having pressurized air in them but I'm sure there's good reasons behind it.

@DaemonwarriorJulius

Ай бұрын

My forklift runs on full rubber tires and that's how they've been working ever since they were invented...

@dukecraig2402

Ай бұрын

@@DaemonwarriorJulius I bet those would be real comfortable on the road, my kidneys hurt just thinking about that.

@gtd9536

Ай бұрын

To be clear, I've just seen it once on a couple of construction vehicles in a zone I use to walk by often. It definitely looked like the tires in this video: A rim surrounded by radiated "bent" spokes, wrapped in a surface with treads. Except, in my case, the radiated spokes was a radiated honey-comb pattern. I'm pretty sure of what I saw. One day, one of vehicles was parked outside a fenced zone. I was able to walk up to it. I touched the tire and spokes. The spoke felt like hard rubber, but I'm not sure if it is rubber I bent down and I could see through the tire. The vehicle wasn't an experimental vehicle for testing new tires. It was legitimately being used for construction.

@stevenstart8728

Ай бұрын

​@@dukecraig2402we fill our tractor tyres with water to get more weight on the ground for better traction. Makes a huge difference. In northern latitudes they have to use a liquid that doesn't freeze solid.

“Reducing rubber waste” yet those tires still need to go somewhere after being used up 😂

@dannywolfe9510

12 күн бұрын

Not to mention the wheel attached to it

'Available later this year' is something we've heard for a long long time about these airless tires

More rolling resistance too I would imagine, at least based off the ones in the video. That means you’ll burn through fuel quicker than normal because of the extra drag.

@Crazy_Gamer_OG

27 күн бұрын

I bet the extra drag is miniscule enough to not really notice a difference.

@cooperuglow9122

27 күн бұрын

@@Crazy_Gamer_OG maybe you wouldn’t notice a difference in range day to day unless you commute extra far or something, but you’d def notice a change financially though. Your mpg will be lower and it will hit your wallet harder in the long run

@rodshoaf

27 күн бұрын

@@Crazy_Gamer_OG yeah it'll only cut your fuel mileage by 25 to 50% do to the increased friction... especially on heavier cars, trucks, and SUVs.

@osets2117

26 күн бұрын

​@@Crazy_Gamer_OGfrom the looks of it they'll act like a half deflated tire, you can definitely notice the difference

These haven’t been shown to be better in many of the ways that matter like efficient rolling resistance (They tend to add rolling resistance, although doing so while adding traction by increasing the contact point space between the wheel and the road / ground surface, sort of acting like a tank tread) Because they obviously don’t have air inside them and traditional tire sidewalls that allow for air pressure to push against said sidewalls to add strength, causing a lack of structural and efficient circularity rigidity to the tire. These tire / wheel systems would likely be good in zero or low atmospheric conditions with environments of lesser gravity, like the Moon and Mars, where the tread deforming could add traction and allow it to deform over rocks and other potential debris and obstacles. Unlike the solid metal wheels on current rovers like Curiosity and Perseverance, which have been shown to rip off sections that are stress hardened over time and then made hard and brittle after time of ware and tear, as well as cycles of temperature extremes going in and outside of direct sunlight. Whereas, these tires could possibly retain their pliability. Granted, they would have to be made out of a substance that remains “rubbery” at the high and low temperature extremes experienced on the surface of the Moon and Mars, when traditional sunset would place them in or out of direct hot sunlight and very cold shadow (causing extreme variability in temperatures) and since having air pressure in tires surrounded by little to no atmosphere, is basically impossible due to little to no atmospheric pressure pushing against it, and causing for unintended expansion of the tire pressure in standard tires makes them unfit for these off Earth applications. It could possibly also allow for the regolith to pass through the connection struts of the tire, possibly allowing for a paddling effect in deep and loose sandy regolith. Possibly even utilizing variable pockets of air in bladders in the support strut structure of the tire that can be adjusted by removing or adding air in these struts to add a circular rigidity under certain circumstances and conditions, allowing for variable deformity of the tires for various conditions. There is still a lot to study and engineer / iteratively redesign and update with these, especially to use them in space, on the surface of the Moon or Mars and hopefully on Earth as well, despite those environments having drastically different engineering requirements and challenges.

@shaggydog5409

Ай бұрын

Dude, you strained my brain with that!! 😅😅

@L33tSkE3t

Ай бұрын

@@shaggydog5409Lol, sorry. I’m just really passionate about engineering and specifically engineering applications that can be applied in space or off planet and I do believe these could have beneficial applications for such things. I hope it was at least understandable, as I have a tendency to go on a tangent trying to put my thoughts into word sometimes.

@shaggydog5409

Ай бұрын

@@L33tSkE3t yes, I'd say you got just a little bit carried away!! But then why not? In a way it's refreshing, especially in this day and age.

@shaggydog5409

Ай бұрын

@@L33tSkE3t I'd bet you carry on some very interesting conversations. The kind this gal wouldn't mind sitting in on just to learn a thing or two. Have a good morning.

@L33tSkE3t

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@shaggydog5409Well, thank you. Yeah, I definitely did get a bit carried away with my run on sentences and seemingly infinite amounts of tech optimism (which rightfully seems to be in short supply these days) Anyway, again, I genuinely appreciated the constructive criticism and it was great hearing you say that my unyielding optimistic comment was genuinely refreshing for you. It’s always nice to hear that, so, thank you. 🙏 You have a great morning as well!

Damn, they did it, they reinvented the wheel.

The air industry will never let this happen

Honestly the main resion is that u change a tire more from lose of tire grips instead of punchers.. fix that first please and tks🙏 😅

@sandiinfante3764

Ай бұрын

Let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. That part hasn't been covered. Maybe is very durable.

@jesmondo5785

Ай бұрын

Soft and grippy tyres wouldn't last and they would be expensive. Hence why you only see them on performance vehicles. In what way do you tyres lose grip??

@Bl4ckD0g

Ай бұрын

​@@jesmondo5785he's talking about tread wear. Which is not the main reason tires get replaced. If it was, the tire industry wouldn't be designing tires that can last thousands of miles.

@robhaywood6783

Ай бұрын

maybe you should go back to school

@ndld4955

Ай бұрын

To be clarify, I was talking about wear and tear.. maybe I'm getting luck but honestly only had 2 punchers I'm my life time ( one of them was suspicious btw nail in side wall?? After being parked in town) so basically almost all my tire changes was because of wear and tear .. Lose of tread deapth essentially.. But as I said my experience may not be Typical ..

More power of the engine will be applied, the mileage will be less..... As a result the cost will be much higher

They also will need to be totally clean of any dirt build up or snow-ice build up within those ribs- otherwise the entire balance of the wheel will be off, and it will feel very unstable at higher speeds.

“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”

@gdmathguy

27 күн бұрын

so throw away your phone then! This is just 1 of the many things this mindset prevents

@user-xs3bz9yc8d

27 күн бұрын

"Horseless carriage? Bah, if it ain't broke don't fix it"

@Steve-cs7pq

27 күн бұрын

Mine break

@Armor23OnPatrol

27 күн бұрын

But tyres break when they burst hmmmmmmmm

@Short_N_Simple

27 күн бұрын

If somethings works good that doesn't mean it can't be upgraded/evolved

These haven’t been rolled out because Michelin bought the patent years ago and sat on it. The design is too long lasting, so Michelin needed time to reduce product lifetime. In other words, they’re rolling out a crappier design for profit.

@marksavage1108

28 күн бұрын

Police objected until they could replace the spike strip. the new wheel trap wraps around the wheel

@supernova743

28 күн бұрын

Too long lasting? There is a lot of issues with this design. A lot of moving parts and exposed rubber. Tires are very important. You need to assess things like stopping distances and traction in a multitude of environments. Lifespan only comes after you can guarantee these arent going to fall apart the first time you slam on the brakes. Flats are an important thing to avoid but you can't give up safety and durability to achieve no flats.

@marksavage1108

28 күн бұрын

@@supernova743 The Tweels running surface has been used on race tracks and showed little difference to the pneumatic versions.

@DrakeOola

28 күн бұрын

No, it's because they cost more to produce but work far worse.

@DrakeOola

28 күн бұрын

@@supernova743 Nah, nah, just let him spread misinformation, it's totally because companies just love making their products worse than the competitors so no one buys from their brand... 🙄

At work we have a set on a 9000 pound Gradall. They were about 15000 dollars each. A regular air up tire of the same size is a little less than 1000 dollars each. A foam filled tire is about 3000 dollars each.

Having to buy the rim with the tire will be its most difficult hurdle.

Why we dont use airless tires? Namely due to the fact that airless tires will absolutely destroy fuel economy. The 25 mile per gallon vehicle now gets only 12 miles per gallon. Unless said tires are made more solid. Then you'll feel every bump in the road, and if you drive where I do, you might get a free spinal realignment. No thanks.

@darthvirgin7157

29 күн бұрын

please explain why gas mileage would decrease with these tires compared to a standard pneumatic tire.

@Cline3911

29 күн бұрын

@@darthvirgin7157 These 'airless' tires will flex, compress, and otherwise move around when enough torque is applied. That means when a driver steps on the gas pedal, more energy is expended to get said vehicle in motion, meaning fuel economy goes down. Way down. Inversely as a driver stops, this tire will generate more heat as said kinetic energy is displaced whilst stopping. Heat + Tires = Bad. Want a better example where said effects can be felt and realized? Get a good bicycle. Ride on good inflated tires. Now flatten them and go for the same ride as the first one. You'd be much more tired, as more energy was expended attempting to ride on a flat. The flat tires would also be damaged more. This is why tire manufacturers always stress proper inflation of tires, as over or under inflation leads to poorer fuel mileage, bad tire wear, and quite possibly catastrophic failures which could lead to an accident. The tires featured in this video are a novel concept but impractical due to their design. They would never work well on a road vehicle due to the energy and efficiency losses inherent to the design. Furthermore, the open sidewall construction is just begging to collect rocks, dirt, mud, and all types of foreign objects that will make the wheel completely out of balance, leading to tire damage, catastrophic failure and increased accidents. Tires of this design would be better suited for slow speed applications like farm implements which I've seen used before, and other related applications. But keep in mind the fuel economy still goes down for whatever they are being used on. Hope this helps. Have a super day friend.

@darthvirgin7157

29 күн бұрын

@@Cline3911 you’re basically handwaving what you think the consequences are for both tires without the physical details. when you apply the same initial torque to both tires you get the same twisting effect. as to how much the axle twists before force is transferred to the ground is debatable, sure. but you didn’t say WHY a pneumatic tire is stiffer. the constant flexing of rubber due to road compression and road-tire friction does produce heat, for BOTH tires. but you also didn’t explain WHY pneumatic tires produce less heat. if the company is claiming that they have addressed such issues, i’m not just going to DISMISS them offhand. for one, they’ve spent millions and decades in R&D and have now come to a point where they’re justified in selling it to the public. are there disadvantages to these new tires? sure. but if the company is willing to sell them, they probably found more advantages to putting them to market. my biggest concern is the mounting. will these require new wheels? how does it do in sharp turns? other than that, i’d be interested in them myself.

Next the retail space will invent the cashless wallet and invisible best friend which comes standard with an invisible vacation.

@Inf75334

Ай бұрын

lol 😂

@sandhilltucker

Ай бұрын

It'll cost $50,000

@stevenstart8728

Ай бұрын

Maybe an ash tray for a motor bike could be invented.

@championx1

Ай бұрын

hello. virtual reality and neuralink. and yes cashless wallet is already here. people pay with watch or phones wirelessly.

@ReigoVassal

Ай бұрын

They already did. The new kind of wallet is just card holder with a clip so you can attach some cash on it. The main purpose is just to hold your credit cards. "Invisible best friend". Not actually invisible but digital. Ever heard of AI girlfriend/boyfriend? "Invisible vacation" is just your PTO get denied.

Not to mention, when you wake up in the morning, and all your wheels are gone!

We need these types of tires for mountain biking

Well now it will be difficult to catch thieves or fugitives running on car....

@user-cu7ig6bf1x

Ай бұрын

So this is a gangsta friendly tires. It's good

@paintballer4055

Ай бұрын

what? they've had "never flats" for years, if your willing to spend the money. this is just innovation. march o progress. in your world are these tires for police cruisers only?

@rosegold-beats

Ай бұрын

Metal cable few inches of the ground, easy stop

@roiq5263

Ай бұрын

Grapler

@johnnyslokes2712

29 күн бұрын

Spikes would probably get stuck in tires and still stop them in their tracks

Sooo instead of replacing the tyre, i need a new wheel also?

@user-oz9fq5uf6g

Ай бұрын

Tire*

@leed2883

Ай бұрын

@user-oz9fq5uf6g not american mate. The union jack should have been a clue. Tyre is correct 👍. Also its Colour not color.

@stephenkillin9730

Ай бұрын

​@leed2883 you changed your language half way through.

@leed2883

Ай бұрын

@stephenkillin9730 what you on about?

@cool_kiddo98

Ай бұрын

​@@stephenkillin9730The US doesnt even own English

The whole point, which is to reduce waste rubber, isn't achievable this way. Because eventually the tyre profile will run flat anyway, whether the tyre punctures or not, which doesn't happen very often anyway. So by using the extra material used in the airless tyre you will, in the end, still produce more waste than with the conventional tyres.

"You've probably seen a video on this before, haven't you?" No, no I haven't

What about shtt accumulation every 2nd day between those gaps making it rock hard

@59plexi

Ай бұрын

they are covered like a normal tire, its exposed for visual purposes only

@cpickles2996

Ай бұрын

​@@59plexiSo there's a side wall that needs to flex without splitting also...

@ashes1895

Ай бұрын

@@cpickles2996 yeah, exactly..it can't b covered

@voiceofreason-ct1nm

Ай бұрын

@@cpickles2996 tires already have sidewalls that flex without splitting

When tires where invented they were built to last forever. Company said well we need to make them so they can fall apart and we can sale more! Greed runs everything in this world!! True story

@Bl4ckD0g

Ай бұрын

No tire can last forever. It's a donut of rubber you constantly rub against the ground at high rotational speeds. Hell, even if you don't use the tire, the rubber will still breakdown and degrade. We don't have some super meta material to replace rubber yet, and we certainly didn't have a better material for the job before it.

@n3lis94

Ай бұрын

I agree with the last statement but the example doesn't make sense.

@libbyhobbs4637

Ай бұрын

Curb weight would let tires run the rim ,surface Temps in summer ie; heavy SUV/car. How are they on sun softened asphalt.Not to mention debris ejected from side of tire (stone chips,glass) SO, no gravel roads? ❤😊

@kodyjbosch1

Ай бұрын

Quality of tires keeps going down while prices skyrocket. It's a zero sum game. So infuriating

@StevieWonder000

Ай бұрын

That's the lightbulb you are thinking of

In Michigan where our roads suck, I could really use these

Getting away from the police is getting better 😂

@anibalbabilonia1867

Ай бұрын

lol!👋🤣👍

@henryslager9406

Ай бұрын

Spike strips don’t work on me suckers!

I guess the police spike strip isnt going to work on these tires

@jeffreygearhart1841

29 күн бұрын

good thing they can disable your engine

@osets2117

26 күн бұрын

They already have a replacement system that looks like a net. It wraps around the axle forcing the vehicle to stop

@stephengraham1153

26 күн бұрын

@@osets2117 "...looks like a net" If it's the one I'm thinking of the police vehicle has to get close enough to deploy the net.

@osets2117

26 күн бұрын

@@stephengraham1153 it can be deployed by hand, it doesn't need to be dropped by a vehicle that would be stupid

@stephengraham1153

26 күн бұрын

@@osets2117 It must be a different one to the one I have seen. A contraption on the front of a police vehicle deploys two metal arms holding a net which then wraps around the rear wheel of a target vehicle bringing it to a stop kzread.info/dash/bejne/e5-kmZVmkauYhaw.htmlsi=BllxPnAFoCv7O3ua

One things hasn't changed over the century is tyre design, now it is time to do that.

"we will have airless tires in a year or so" - My highschool teacher in 1999

Tires companies make so much money on the tires we have already. These will never be released to the public even after they fix the issues.

@WTmac1993

27 күн бұрын

Why not? They already cost dramatically more than a pneumatic tire, if they're charging as much as they do they'll definitely make a lot of money.

@xineohpinakc264

27 күн бұрын

Michelin have been diddling with these since the early 1980's. They are unstable at fast speeds and dangerous. They sell them for limited slow devices like fork lifts etc.

@Argedis

26 күн бұрын

@@xineohpinakc264 I've seen them in riding mowers that's the only thing they make sense in not cars

@xineohpinakc264

26 күн бұрын

@@Argedis Slow devices. I worked at Michelin for a while and got to see the test videos where they worked for years trying to get them to work in cars and they made the car nearly flip and the ride was rough.

Some bank robbers gonna use that to counter spike strips

@darthvirgin7157

29 күн бұрын

police now use ENTANGLEMENT devices that stop the wheels from spinning. police evaders have been known to keep rolling on blown/spiked tires.

Winter months would be brutal, ice and snow would pack those openings.

In local old news paper archives it use to be a competition of air tires vs all rubber. Seeing how my shopping cart works I see why air tires won. It’s just too noisy the rubber tires. These look like it can be different though .

What about mud, gravel, and snow inside the chambers. Seems like tire you would put on your pavement princess down south. Not sure they will catch on everywhere.

@sprontos

Ай бұрын

Try again, Sherlock.

We'll say goodbye to drift with this one.

the biggest reason is that they are too well built in the beginning. they needed to find ways to make them less durable, so we have to buy more when we buy them, derp

French postal services have been testing them on their cars in collaboration with Michelin.

I’m waiting a few years before I adopt. See how many crashes happen first. Michelin likes to release shit without proper testing lol

I feel like I’ve heard the “Later this year they’ll be released” for quite a few years now.

Super! One less thing to worry about when driving!

I can see that the cost of air is so high that an alternative is required!

Becouse if you run from the cops they cant deploy spike strips to stop you.

My jobsite is going to love this more than the local tire shop. I wonder if suspension /cost is worth it. I swear people be too vengful in my area.

They also don’t handle nearly as well. They can’t hold up to cornering as well because they don’t have the side wall of a regular tire.