Why Does WWE Feel So Different Today?

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In this video I break down the reasons why WWE feels so different today?
This is just my opinion, but let me know in the comments, which version of WWE do you prefer?
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00:00 - INTRODUCTION
00:16 - FEEL OF THE SHOWS
02:17 - CROWDS
05:17 - STORIES
08:11 - ACTION
10:31 - STAR POWER
13:33 - ROSTER
14:24 - TELEVISION

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  • @mantequilla6118
    @mantequilla61187 ай бұрын

    You guys left out the announce team. Jr & King made the shows more intense as well how they got into it. Now the announce teams are lack luster

  • @Waking.Up.

    @Waking.Up.

    7 ай бұрын

    Not to mention that announce teams don't talk anymore during promos or backstage segments.

  • @starkiller7278

    @starkiller7278

    7 ай бұрын

    Truth, watching the attitude era stuff. Seeing JR and Jerry Lawler is such fun 😂. Lawler's son (rest his soul) was also such a riot in the light heavyweight division 😂.

  • @BananaMana69

    @BananaMana69

    7 ай бұрын

    They also had bigger roles then just announcer. The King was a wrestler who was on top for a long time. He knew all the ins and out of the buisness and that goes a long way when youre on commentary. And JR was management for the roster to deal with issues and personality clashes and such.

  • @dyslexofficial2798

    @dyslexofficial2798

    7 ай бұрын

    Puppies!!!!!! Puppies J R!!!!!

  • @DTHRILLS.DANIEL.THRILLRIDETV

    @DTHRILLS.DANIEL.THRILLRIDETV

    7 ай бұрын

    True

  • @pranavsachdeva1141
    @pranavsachdeva11417 ай бұрын

    one important thing that you missed is the end of kayfabe. during attitude era wrestling looked real, with no social media, no leaks, stars maintaining character, and genuine effort by company to keep everything seem real. I used to be surprised that newspapers didn't cover the big title matches on their sports pages. In those times you could not have imagined Vince giving interviews why he decided to end undertaker’s streak, for example.

  • @abdinasirahmed4063

    @abdinasirahmed4063

    7 ай бұрын

    Vince came out and said wrestling is fake In 1997 so idont know what ur on about

  • @jasontodd1896

    @jasontodd1896

    7 ай бұрын

    This

  • @jasontodd1896

    @jasontodd1896

    7 ай бұрын

    @@abdinasirahmed4063shut up

  • @Njpro

    @Njpro

    7 ай бұрын

    The under the mat documentary killed kayfabe

  • @thegoughandbordenfamily8234

    @thegoughandbordenfamily8234

    7 ай бұрын

    There were tons of leaks in the late 90s

  • @sumit.malik.the_eye.doctor
    @sumit.malik.the_eye.doctor7 ай бұрын

    I think it's the voice of Jim Ross & Jerry Lawler that made everything bigger than it really was. They complemented each other so perfectly. Jim Ross supporting the nice guys while Jerry with his humor & anti hero support with a touch of sarcasm.

  • @Saxxin1

    @Saxxin1

    7 ай бұрын

    That duo was the best all time. I still use King quotes in real life.

  • @user-ou1jk2he3d

    @user-ou1jk2he3d

    7 ай бұрын

    The wrestlers who actually had charisma & looked the part had something to do with it too

  • @FeminineAroma

    @FeminineAroma

    7 ай бұрын

    I really do miss hearing their commentary; it was the best! 🔥

  • @NazriB

    @NazriB

    6 ай бұрын

    Lies again? Football Trial USD SGD

  • @KingMike-un5vz

    @KingMike-un5vz

    3 ай бұрын

    I totally agree

  • @Johnlmooring
    @Johnlmooring7 ай бұрын

    I think Bobby Heenan said it best, when u show the crowd how the magician does his tricks…the magic is gone. That combined with social media showing us the people behind the characters. It’s just not the same. 80 and 90 characters were “larger than life.”

  • @RealHomeRecording

    @RealHomeRecording

    7 ай бұрын

    It's the same with celebrities as well. They were larger than life and mysterious. But because of social media we get too much of a good thing.

  • @BananaMana69

    @BananaMana69

    7 ай бұрын

    I mean they actually were too. The Undertaker was a legitmately tough dude, he wore black and barely spoke to anyone when he was in public, the old guys lived their characters. Now it would be impossible to have a character like The Undertaker, WWE wouldn't even be able to find a guy tough enough to be believable as a real biker, because wrestling doesn't attract tough people anymore.

  • @06capoeirista

    @06capoeirista

    4 ай бұрын

    @RealHomeRecording - but people still go to magic shows because magicians can still sell the illusion. People still ask "How did you do that?!" Wrestling can do the same thing with some innovation .

  • @06capoeirista

    @06capoeirista

    4 ай бұрын

    @RealHomeRecording - but people still go to magic shows because magicians can still sell the illusion. People still ask "How did you do that?!" Wrestling can do the same thing with some innovation .

  • @Johnlmooring

    @Johnlmooring

    4 ай бұрын

    @@06capoeirista very true, but it’s gonna take alot.

  • @BILLZ32155
    @BILLZ321557 ай бұрын

    Another factor i think is that a lot of the attitude era wrestlers were playing exaggerated versions of themselves and they genuinely had some grit and badassery about them. Nowadays however heels just feel like nice guys pretending to be evil.

  • @Kalel2.0

    @Kalel2.0

    7 ай бұрын

    I agree with this actually back then Heels could do a lot controversial stuff to get heat nowadays it's mostly playing it safe

  • @theworldisimmense

    @theworldisimmense

    7 ай бұрын

    Yea any Gas station worker looking dude can become a wrestler and beat big guys

  • @powersurge_beast

    @powersurge_beast

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@theworldisimmenseon GOD

  • @BLACKSTA361

    @BLACKSTA361

    7 ай бұрын

    Exactly. I feel bad for Austin Theory. He's being forced to play a heel when he'd do an amazing babyface. He's just not believable aas evil especially when you know how nice he is in real life.

  • @thegameking3931

    @thegameking3931

    7 ай бұрын

    @@BLACKSTA361 but he had face of spoiled arrogant brat

  • @mr.p7609
    @mr.p76097 ай бұрын

    I really miss attitude era & rutherless aggression era 😢

  • @fungames821

    @fungames821

    7 ай бұрын

    Blame chris benoit lol since yall old heads love complaining

  • @grimplayz7565

    @grimplayz7565

    7 ай бұрын

    I highly doubt half of the people saying this weren’t born in the time to watch either

  • @theworldisimmense

    @theworldisimmense

    7 ай бұрын

    @@fungames821yea kinda , although WWE was going PG eventually , Chris Benoit death made chair to the head banned from WWE and by 2008 it was fully PG.

  • @fungames821

    @fungames821

    7 ай бұрын

    so let's blame chris benoit and not hate on the new era@@theworldisimmense

  • @00579G47

    @00579G47

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@fungames821Blame Vince it's his company.

  • @M.sami12
    @M.sami127 ай бұрын

    The attitude era was actual entertainment. Every show felt like a PPV.

  • @waxmandr

    @waxmandr

    6 ай бұрын

    The quality of Attitude Era really wasn't as high as your nostalgia-tinted glasses make out. Rock, Austin, Foley aside, a lot of it was quite frankly awful.

  • @atlchopperz1765

    @atlchopperz1765

    4 ай бұрын

    @@waxmandrcompared to the kiddie garbage of today? Nice try kid….

  • @Zhou_Yu

    @Zhou_Yu

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@waxmandr a kid without parents rtight here

  • @decoyaardvark2828

    @decoyaardvark2828

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@atlchopperz1765 yes because the Headbangers, a guy throwing up, and a porn star are peak 5 star wrestling matches.

  • @drwho9319

    @drwho9319

    3 ай бұрын

    @@decoyaardvark2828 yes because a man with daddy issues, a emo girl, and scrawny wrestlers of today is 5 stars peak entertainment

  • @NickPiers
    @NickPiers6 ай бұрын

    I'm in my 40s and have been watching wrestling as early as just after WrestleMania 3. I've seen a lot of ups and downs. For me, it's honestly the sheer amount of content required to keep up with the product. When I was a kid, I religiously watched Superstars every Saturday afternoon. I could maybe watch Maple Leaf Wrestling if I wanted alternative matches from house show tapings, but Superstars was it. And it was only an hour long. Then there were only 4 PPVs a year. So not only did the build up mean more, but the marquee matches we actually got meant more. Plus, PPVs were consistently 3 hours long. Now, RAW is 3 hours, Smackdown is 2 hours, plus NXT for another 2 hours. That's 7 hours a week of WWE content to keep up on. And PPVs now are more than 12 times a year, 4+ hours long, or are a whole weekend event like WrestleMania. For me, it's too overwhelming to even bother tuning in. I like wrestling, but I don't like it enough to dedicate 5+ hours a week just to keep up. RAW alone being 3 hours long is ridiculous to me. Plus, I find the matches don't mean as much anymore. Wins are traded back and forth to the point of meaningless. Rematches are often that marquee matches that happen only once like Hogan/Warrior almost never happen. And the matches themselves are filled with so many high spots that they become meaningless. I hate sounding like an old man saying this, but back in my day, a single body slam could mean everything in a match because they'd build the match around it. Now, you see guys taking a 360 corkscrew plancha and they're popping back up like it was nothing. You see some killer moves performed which could easily be the big finish, but instead it's a transitional move at best. I'm not against high spots, but don't give me 20 in a match and render all of them meaningless.

  • @bigleaguebigly938

    @bigleaguebigly938

    Ай бұрын

    This is perfect. Well said

  • @alexsarria2476

    @alexsarria2476

    Ай бұрын

    The law of diminshing marginal utility.

  • @MesameBendicta
    @MesameBendicta7 ай бұрын

    The one thing I really miss about the past would probably the thrash talk, and the signs. That's why LA Knight is so loved he tries to push those lines of Rock,Billy Gunn,Austin etc.

  • @AnontheGOAT

    @AnontheGOAT

    7 ай бұрын

    Bingo. LA Knights character is a throwback to those guys.

  • @Red_dead_Redemption_4_Life

    @Red_dead_Redemption_4_Life

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@AnontheGOATYEAH!!

  • @carter3369

    @carter3369

    7 ай бұрын

    His catchphrases are a ripoff of Austin’s

  • @Red_dead_Redemption_4_Life

    @Red_dead_Redemption_4_Life

    7 ай бұрын

    @@carter3369 WHAT?!

  • @CheknoEternity

    @CheknoEternity

    7 ай бұрын

    @@carter3369 you missed the part where everyone literally said he was a throw back…are you purposely being stupid??

  • @jonpower9728
    @jonpower97287 ай бұрын

    When the Rock showed up a few weeks ago and hit the People's elbow, the complete absence of flash photography from the crowds made me miss the days when fans were 100% invested in the show and not on their phones

  • @yellowsnowman9157

    @yellowsnowman9157

    7 ай бұрын

    Except the people's elbow sucks so who cares....

  • @propellermonk

    @propellermonk

    7 ай бұрын

    @@yellowsnowman9157 Lmao

  • @bb8942

    @bb8942

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@yellowsnowman9157the rock says it doesn't matter what you think 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @yellowsnowman9157

    @yellowsnowman9157

    7 ай бұрын

    @@bb8942 the Rock also voted for Joe Biden so the Rock isn't a very smart guy

  • @mikeygraves16

    @mikeygraves16

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@yellowsnowman9157 Could've been worse. He could've voted for a reality tv show host 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @kenwkls6392
    @kenwkls63927 ай бұрын

    what you also forgot was the entrance music. nowdays the music sounds the same whereas in the attitude era the entrance music suited the wrestlers character. it helped to sell the character whilst also making the music well known which again makes you remember that wrestler.

  • @ChildofTMH144

    @ChildofTMH144

    Ай бұрын

    Facts

  • @Thermolizer
    @Thermolizer7 ай бұрын

    I remember in the early 2000s almost every person in the WWE was a household name. Now most people don't even know Roman Reigns who has been champ for ages. I think a lot of people my age (mid/late 20s) have moved onto the UFC who have the larger than life WWE characters and the fights are actually real.

  • @deckzone3000

    @deckzone3000

    7 ай бұрын

    🧢

  • @Thermolizer

    @Thermolizer

    7 ай бұрын

    @@deckzone3000 What part?

  • @deckzone3000

    @deckzone3000

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Thermolizer Being household names.

  • @lancethefilmguy9392

    @lancethefilmguy9392

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@ThermolizerI think the rise of UFC hurt WWE

  • @yamofranko8899

    @yamofranko8899

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@deckzone3000yeah idk..i can name 5 guys from 2000s..cant name 5 new guys on the roster

  • @skyfire_swe8520
    @skyfire_swe85207 ай бұрын

    My main issue, especially with the male wrestlers, is that so many of them look the same. Their entrance attire might be creative, but in the ring it's mostly the same generic appearance. I watched Royal Rumble 2023 and zoomed out it's just a mess of guys that looks the same. We need more variety and characters and good use of gimmicks. If I want realistic fighting, I will watch MMA. Nowadays I mostly watch Rhea Ripley. She is so talented and have actual original style, acting talent and is great in the ring.

  • @johngiles6376

    @johngiles6376

    7 ай бұрын

    right, they all got the same beard. lol

  • @nitsuanomrah6997

    @nitsuanomrah6997

    7 ай бұрын

    K.O and Sami Zayne look like Gamestop employees

  • @Bergje360

    @Bergje360

    7 ай бұрын

    Gunther also has a diffrent style than most of the 'modern' wrestlers, which makes it a joy to watch his matches

  • @mrkrabssoldmysoulfor6294

    @mrkrabssoldmysoulfor6294

    7 ай бұрын

    Theme song has gotten worse too. You can't tell the difference between theme anymore. It's all sounded the same.

  • @skyfire_swe8520

    @skyfire_swe8520

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Bergje360 Doesn't Gunther have the usual small trunks + pads?

  • @stephenblack5425
    @stephenblack54257 ай бұрын

    WWE looked gritty in attitude era and ruthless agression era but ever since 2008 which was the beginning of the pg era, it became quite polished.

  • @hnaku8748

    @hnaku8748

    7 ай бұрын

    The only thing I like is the way WWE hides low attendances with tarps and lighting, it's better than AEW. Saying that as someone who has preferred watching AEW more. Even in shows with same number of people, WWE makes it seem like they have more. In the end though, it's no use if the product quality has no substance. It's been okayish recently, hopefully picks up more.

  • @user-mv7dg5qy7c

    @user-mv7dg5qy7c

    7 ай бұрын

    @@hnaku8748 wwe has better attendance than aew brooo

  • @hnaku8748

    @hnaku8748

    7 ай бұрын

    @@user-mv7dg5qy7c In general yes, but not always. Raw had episodes where there were only 3500-4000 people. SmackDown dealt with even lesser. They managed it to look better on TV. Even in recent times where numbers were equal or sometimes even better for AEW (assume 6500 or more), it felt lesser. WWE just highlight fan presence better. They move the crowd and tarp the rest, then use lighting and camera cuts to enhance those. Even leaving out PPVs, some of AEW weekly episodes had good attendances. Some touching attitude era figures. Grand Slam in 2021 had 20,177 people. Dynamite in June 2022 had 15,471. But watch SmackDown last episode with around 10,000 people and it won't look lesser.

  • @user-mv7dg5qy7c

    @user-mv7dg5qy7c

    7 ай бұрын

    @@hnaku8748 now since the start 2023 every smackdown has 12k+ and raw has around 10k and AEW is struggling to get 3k peoples

  • @LagoonKnight
    @LagoonKnight7 ай бұрын

    The Hardy Boyz put their bodies on the line more than their tag belts! So glad I grew up with the best years of wrestling. It's seriously sad to see a lot of these guys retire.

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped6 ай бұрын

    Just those clips of the Monday Night War/Attitude Era, the energy of the show as so completely different. It was fun, spontaneous, and engaging. These days WWE feels so formulaic. Like the wrestlers might as well be Japanese salary men clocking in to go to work each time they show up, and WWE might as well be an Amazon distribution center.

  • @phistoltv5196

    @phistoltv5196

    6 ай бұрын

    That era was just chaotic 😂

  • @ballsonc6251

    @ballsonc6251

    3 ай бұрын

    😂😂 really a great analogy

  • @GleeChan
    @GleeChan7 ай бұрын

    Modern WWE just feels less dangerous and more controlled. Even if fans may have known that the industry was choreographed for years, it was performed in such a way that you never knew where things were going because things sometimes seemed so unhinged. Hell, just look at the crowds from then and now. The signs, the random chants, constantly getting into it. An average Raw back then looked way more exciting than a Modern Wrestlemania. But now people know it's watered down, the segments feel like set ups/payoffs instead of a natural progression of things, and you just feel the script and the rhythm. There's no point in a promo because WWE loves showing these guys out of character all the time. It's just a set up. The show isn't complete chaos anymore, it's controlled. The commentary team are more concerned over selling main event storylines and products then what's actually going on right in front of them. So fans are just sitting there waiting for the next pop or bump so they can feel included. I'm not saying that wrestling needs to have a bunch of run ins, crazy bumps, gimmicks, or even blood; but there is no danger, no stakes. We all are aware that this a performance, there is no suspending reality for just a few hours. It's paint by numbers. We all know where the producers and writers are heading with storylines given match sets they give and constant bland promos. It's predictable and boring and safe, because safe is easier to film and gets less crap from sponsors and tv executives.

  • @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716

    @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716

    7 ай бұрын

    Chairshots to the head, piledrivers all should be normal moves.

  • @PrestonRennerSOTB

    @PrestonRennerSOTB

    7 ай бұрын

    Well said!

  • @Podgorski37

    @Podgorski37

    7 ай бұрын

    What a load of crap from you. You see every TV show's actors outside of the production and no other fan base is crying about it

  • @elgusaniiiodeljuego6823

    @elgusaniiiodeljuego6823

    7 ай бұрын

    Rather than controlled, the keyword is *sanitized* EDIT: The thumbnail is insulting. Nobody in the current roster is anywhere near Austin and Rock. At least they didn't put Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens.

  • @planescaped

    @planescaped

    6 ай бұрын

    A lot of that is a result of them becoming a publicly traded company. You want to minimize anything that could potentially have an impact on the stock price or shareholders.

  • @HarjotShah
    @HarjotShah7 ай бұрын

    Another point that’s often overlooked by the fans but is said by the industry veterans is selling. Too many high flying moves are being done which makes the matches look the same. When the likes of Shawn Michaels and Chris Benoit got hit they made the audience feel the pain, which no other wrestler is able to do now - not even Seth or Gable. Seth is in a feud with Nakamura where his back is bad, yet he comes in every week and performs same high flying moves effortlessly

  • @ashishbhatt3467

    @ashishbhatt3467

    7 ай бұрын

    IKR..back in early 2000s heavyweight, giants, cruiserweights felt different and each wrestler felt unique. This made any aerial move made by a giant significant ..like the undertaker walking on a rope, Kane flying clothesline, Big show jumping off the rope and flying kick. etc,

  • @RealHomeRecording

    @RealHomeRecording

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@ashishbhatt3467don't forget Vader! Seeing that big man do a backflip was insane

  • @ashishbhatt3467

    @ashishbhatt3467

    7 ай бұрын

    @@RealHomeRecording hs yeah! I dont know how those wrestleres survived Vadar..he was stiff too!

  • @BananaMana69

    @BananaMana69

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@ashishbhatt3467Cant forget Brock Lesnars shooting star press.

  • @rubineouskurbah2511
    @rubineouskurbah25117 ай бұрын

    Nothing beats the attitude era...its was awesome. Wish wwe was still the same

  • @torch469
    @torch4692 ай бұрын

    Character charisma! Each show has their own stage! Banger rock n roll theme! Savage mode on the mic!

  • @marygane8865
    @marygane88657 ай бұрын

    So glad I grew up on the attitude era

  • @fungames821

    @fungames821

    7 ай бұрын

    Blame chris benoit lol since yall old heads love complaining

  • @ssjg4Gogeta

    @ssjg4Gogeta

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@fungames821You young "kids" are the worst. You're type ruined WWE

  • @atlchopperz1765

    @atlchopperz1765

    4 ай бұрын

    @@fungames821blame the dwebie millennials for having such low standards 😂

  • @randomfools808

    @randomfools808

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@fungames821Attitude era was long over by then. That was Ruthless Aggression.

  • @jasonsmith530

    @jasonsmith530

    2 ай бұрын

    Being old is awesome

  • @ActionJacksonMan
    @ActionJacksonMan7 ай бұрын

    Great video. I think one big factor you missed is mobile phones. If you watch WWE now, it seems like 90% of the fans at the venue are watching it with their phones out (especially in the front row / around the entrances). Fans will never be as engaged, passionate and LOUD as they used to be when they're more concerned with filming it on their phone, rather than engaging with it directly and "being in the moment".

  • @BLACKSTA361

    @BLACKSTA361

    7 ай бұрын

    A few weeks or months back kn smackdown I think a wrestler walked in with his entrance. He went to high five bunch on fans and then went for hug on another person. Instead i living in the moment the person took two steps to the side to get a better angle while filming. That moment alone shows how problematic these phones have gotten

  • @jj6392

    @jj6392

    7 ай бұрын

    See thats blaming the customer when the fault for that sits with the wwe. If the product was engaging and worth the investment, people wouldnt be stuck on their phones.

  • @kaminoken

    @kaminoken

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@jj6392like football

  • @springer90

    @springer90

    7 ай бұрын

    Them cellular telephones with the cameras in them changed everything.

  • @AbrahamG.99

    @AbrahamG.99

    6 ай бұрын

    bro forgot about backlash and money in the bank

  • @Mr.Miyagu
    @Mr.Miyagu7 ай бұрын

    I know back in the days wrestlers were scarier, mysterious, and seemed unstable, which was probably true, but their character made you think, it was like a pit bull fight, they were kept separate until they got into the ring, they were opponents, now you see them hanging out in the locker room trash talking to each other...

  • @googleuser7454

    @googleuser7454

    7 ай бұрын

    I kind of wish they would try to bring back a little more kayfabe. Like manufacturing a believable beef between two wrestlers

  • @ericm425
    @ericm4256 ай бұрын

    Finishing moves used to be protected. Now, it's the cool thing to do: kick out of finisher moves, sometimes multiple times per match

  • @eLite-Tiss91
    @eLite-Tiss917 ай бұрын

    It's more about Hollywood than the Wrestling nuff said

  • @hasanx8066

    @hasanx8066

    7 ай бұрын

    Facts

  • @MAriomcmahon1

    @MAriomcmahon1

    7 ай бұрын

    Watch UFC then

  • @kylegrahn8711

    @kylegrahn8711

    7 ай бұрын

    Who's nuff?

  • @KermitTFYT

    @KermitTFYT

    7 ай бұрын

    @@kylegrahn8711enough = nuff.

  • @dondew00

    @dondew00

    7 ай бұрын

    Wanna know why? It's the strawberry generation we live and have been forced down our throats with the filth of PC'Ness in this strawberry generation filled with rainbow farts and ooh love me like me pleass acknowledge my hard work i put through to let you watch something in the screen like there's only one channel to watch that is me

  • @lovelywaz
    @lovelywaz7 ай бұрын

    Simple thing. In olden days, those stars were hungry to be the best, be at the top AND "made" WWE. Now a days, WWE is a machine that makes stars who just wants to collect pay checks and act like they are big deals because they are in WWE.

  • @paul-pq4xp

    @paul-pq4xp

    7 ай бұрын

    They're all the same

  • @Sendmeyourlocation

    @Sendmeyourlocation

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@paul-pq4xpNot really during the rock/austin era it was genuinely hard to be the "it" superstar..now Stephanie says jump and Roman says how high..immediately makes him top dog in the industry.

  • @paul-pq4xp

    @paul-pq4xp

    7 ай бұрын

    @Sendmeyourlocation naw I'm not saying that. I was agreeing that the wwe is a machine and all these wrestlers are inauthentic, factory made and all the same. It's not even about the art of wrestling anymore. Just whoever gets a pop

  • @as-zm8pq

    @as-zm8pq

    7 ай бұрын

    They satisfied just being on tv. Austin said at CM Punk

  • @sleyaraze8916
    @sleyaraze89167 ай бұрын

    One thing as a non-live audience viewer, we rely on commentaries the most to grasp the feel of watching wrestling. So, sorry Michael Cole, JR and King Lawler combination of commentary duo had the best lively feeling. They were truly living in the moment, and now Cole reading the cue cards or foreshadowing things. They brought wrestling to life.

  • @hnaku8748

    @hnaku8748

    7 ай бұрын

    Honestly think Vince being in the ear all times has hampered Cole from his full potential, we've heard good stuff from him in past. The 1999 Mankind vs Rock for the WWF title had no JR, Cole was the one there and it still sounded great.

  • @RememberNemesis
    @RememberNemesis5 ай бұрын

    Easily the best wrestling video I have seen all year, good balance of clip time and informative narration. keep up the good work my man.

  • @stephen9302
    @stephen93027 ай бұрын

    The "PG" era RUINED WWE/F

  • @ToeTag9899

    @ToeTag9899

    7 ай бұрын

    And Cena.

  • @stephen9302

    @stephen9302

    7 ай бұрын

    @ToeTag9899 I agree. I never liked Cena either. His double AA that tine showed insane strength, but that's about it. That "Dr. of Thugonomics" slant was ultra cringe, but he had a good career 👏

  • @ToeTag9899

    @ToeTag9899

    7 ай бұрын

    @@stephen9302 He had a good career on burying people and making alot of us stop watching WWE.

  • @hnaku8748

    @hnaku8748

    7 ай бұрын

    It dampened wrestling as a whole. Better writing could have helped but there's only so much you can do with set boundaries, promo/storylines are much more restrictive and no blood affects in ring act. It's tougher as time goes since so many stuff is already done, which were without boundaries. Maybe Vince having seen it all stopped caring too as long as money came.

  • @hnaku8748

    @hnaku8748

    7 ай бұрын

    @@stephen9302 Actually like Dr. of Thugonomics more than the current HLR rainbow version, he was great as a heel. Also the AA(Attitude Adjustment) is actually an FU(F--- You) which got PG'd too. He'd have fit in attitude era with ease if he was presented/pushed as such, but alas.

  • @fu102
    @fu1027 ай бұрын

    You're so right, and you put it a lot nicer than I would've. Not even mentioning the new era of marks on the internet ruining wrestling by wanting a bland fake UFC and whining about every perceived offence. It's tiresome.

  • @DrSin_of_BelAir

    @DrSin_of_BelAir

    7 ай бұрын

    Hi, I'm one of those new fans. And I think it's equally as tiresome hearing people all over the place whining and complaining saying the same old copy-paste narrative of "WWE hasn't been good since the attitude era" when I'm just here trying to enjoy something I genuinely have an interest in. It ain't easy being a new fan

  • @Dan-ch8kv

    @Dan-ch8kv

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DrSin_of_BelAirWhen you look at the contrast, it’s not hard to see why the older days were better. It’s not just an old man being nostalgic for his taste in music. It was objectively better. The stories, creativity, wrestling, and stunts were all much more enjoyable to watch. Today is like a plain dry piece of piece of rye bread compared to a quality Philly cheese steak. That said, I understand why everything has gotten soft. From Wrestling, to the NFL, to UFC, and so much more, the affects of the “aggression” are coming back to haunt the gladiators. Consistent hits to the head have long term consequences, and companies are becoming more and more liable for what they allow (Thanks to a lawsuit happy culture). And with that I doubt we’ll ever be able to go back without a complete restart of the culture and government.

  • @powersurge_beast

    @powersurge_beast

    7 ай бұрын

    GOD FR And they're small af

  • @jasontodd1896

    @jasontodd1896

    7 ай бұрын

    This

  • @jasontodd1896

    @jasontodd1896

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DrSin_of_BelAiryou are part of the problem on why wrestling sucks

  • @neverbeganforme
    @neverbeganforme7 ай бұрын

    Wrestling is different these days because of two reasons. 1. Wrestlers constantly breaking Kayfabe 2. And the fans knowing too much behind the scenes. I think the second point is worse than wrestlers breaking kayfabe. Allowing fans to know about everything that goes on behind the scenes immediately ruins the suspension of disbelief. In order for wrestling to work, you have to believe it’s real, you have to believe these dudes would go lengths to kill each other, cheat them out of a title shot, etc.

  • @loveyourself1803

    @loveyourself1803

    7 ай бұрын

    I’ve always said we know way too much about behind the scenes now days! Social media has killed it. Instagram has pages that show everything and the result of the matches before you even get a chance to watch it.

  • @sanji1259

    @sanji1259

    6 ай бұрын

    nah, i know keanu reeves but i love john wick. it´s all about the presentation and selling it

  • @elvvlogs1261
    @elvvlogs12616 ай бұрын

    Backstage scenes were also very entertaining during the ruthless aggression era compared to nowadays

  • @stephen9302
    @stephen93027 ай бұрын

    Back then, EVERY match was a MAIN EVENT every week!!

  • @od1umct
    @od1umct7 ай бұрын

    There's a lot of issues with modern wrestling. He touched point on one of them which is seeing the same spots in so many matches, on the same card at that. So many people wrestling the same as well. It doesn't feel as varied anymore. Another problem I have is peoples finishers aren't protected anymore... way too many false finishes. IMO hitting finishes should be the end of the match unless a false finish makes sense from a story perspective, otherwise just have the move reversed or avoided. I think most matches, especially those centered around titles should have long term story telling to them. Save specialty matches (hell in a cell, ect) for specific heated feuds. Start having wrestlers really work on a unique in-ring style that makes sense for the character instead of everyone wrestling like created wrestlers in video games. When you saw stone cold wrestle you knew it was punches, kicks, mud hole stomping and stunners. When the rock wrestled it was flashy over the top moves that didn't really make sense but he made it work because it just made sense for his character. Also a lot of these new theme musics are terrible and literal 30 second loops. Themes impact heavily how these men and women are perceived. I think the overuse of people having catch phrases is entirely too over done just so they can print t-shirts. To be fair that last one is definitely the rocks fault. Lol

  • @IVUSER

    @IVUSER

    7 ай бұрын

    I would like to add to that, the decision to have someone like Seth Rollins hit the pedigree as a finisher is fucking stupid because everyone knows it's HHH's move, so why copy it? From the moment I saw Seth hit it when he returned it looked awful and lame.

  • @MR.__G

    @MR.__G

    2 ай бұрын

    @@IVUSERjust like the Kevin owens guy using the stunner. How do use the most iconic finisher ever ? And I heard everyone uses super kicks as a normal move lmaoo hbk made it a thing of beauty

  • @Mrgetthejobdone630
    @Mrgetthejobdone6307 ай бұрын

    Facts is once something hits its peak it usually just doesn’t go back to that. Nothing wrong with that. Truth is once kayfabe was exposed the long term effects of it were set in motion to slowly wine things down. Secondly the attitude era did what most movies and reality shows do, appeal to sex, drama, money and excessive violence. Violence/violent stunts especially because that over emphasized the real aspects of wrestling to counter the known fakeness of wrestling entertainment. Those are things that in this era can’t be gone back to. Lawsuits, deaths etc would come down on WWE. Now the one thing they could do to get it as close is possible is go back to great storytelling and drama. Which they’ve done with things like the bloodline etc. Do for main and mid carders.

  • @Armoured.Goomba
    @Armoured.Goomba7 ай бұрын

    Can't believe how much I miss the attitude and ruthless aggression eras, they were the best ones stone cold vs mcmahon and brock lesnar dominating every show with his faction big show matt morgan and nathan jones lol

  • @CoffeePaladin
    @CoffeePaladin7 ай бұрын

    Other things might be the disappearance of gimmicks and the commentary which, in my opinion, feels like a bunch of amateurs afraid to sound invested because we're generationally so cynical and too cool to seem into something.

  • @palaceofwisdom9448

    @palaceofwisdom9448

    7 ай бұрын

    Gimmicks are so hit or miss, but they're badly needed to keep talent from feeling interchangeable.

  • @powersurge_beast

    @powersurge_beast

    7 ай бұрын

    Fr

  • @gladiatorscoops4907

    @gladiatorscoops4907

    7 ай бұрын

    Commentary makes a big difference - JR and King were the absolute Dream Team - they added so much to the matches

  • @ifgwelf
    @ifgwelf7 ай бұрын

    Everything seems more sanitized and standardized nowadays.

  • @CoffeeMatt10
    @CoffeeMatt107 ай бұрын

    14:08 this is one of the biggest issues for me, I see it so many times where guys will go back and forth with forearm/elbow strikes, kicks, knees, even headbutts, and they no sell the shit out of it, then do a couple of jumps and flips, and then someone hits the Canadian Destroyer (that used to be someone’s finisher, now it’s as basic as a headlock and used more often!), and the other guy no sells that to hell! There’s no ring psychology anymore, the matches don’t tell a story anymore, they just try to look pretty and spectacular, as if it was circus act, and by doing so actually end up looking like dogshit.

  • @jonnyturtleneck7153
    @jonnyturtleneck71537 ай бұрын

    Every ppv for the last ten years has felt the exact same whereas in 80s and 90s you could clearly tell the difference in the show every couple of years.

  • @benmulder6487
    @benmulder64877 ай бұрын

    I agree with everything on here, I grew up during the attitude era and I miss the crowd filled with signs, the opening pyro at shows and individual set designs at the ppv's

  • @handlesRdumb
    @handlesRdumb7 ай бұрын

    It became a publicly traded company. Shareholders do not like surprises of any kind so no one is allowed improvising or going off script anymore. Got to do what's best for the share price.

  • @FlyingMonet

    @FlyingMonet

    6 ай бұрын

    WWE went publicly traded in 1999 buddy

  • @phistoltv5196

    @phistoltv5196

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@FlyingMonetyeah you are right. I personally think its just difference of era's

  • @stewietk
    @stewietk7 ай бұрын

    Gah-dayum you made me feel like a kid again..... Thank you so much for taking time an putting this together

  • @gabrielng3449
    @gabrielng34497 ай бұрын

    The biggest change to me is the sound of the slam on the mat. In the past it sounded more powerful and earth shaking

  • @jamex98

    @jamex98

    2 ай бұрын

    In today's current era it sounds like stiff and no extra impact compares from past it's way more had an impact.

  • @clownprince1313
    @clownprince13137 ай бұрын

    Considering the fact that Reigns is pictured as the top guy nowadays and the majority of the fans are behind that idea, I'd say Vince was spot on here when he said he gave the fans what they wanted instead of them wanting it to be this way.

  • @Chillboyhaad

    @Chillboyhaad

    7 ай бұрын

    We wanted Roman as a heel not a face, same with Cena. That’s Vinces problem.

  • @SpongeBob5000_

    @SpongeBob5000_

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ChillboyhaadRoman wasn’t good enough whether he was a face or a heel. You modern wwe guzzlers simultaneously create this “ideal fix” in your mind to a problem and if it’s fulfilled the way y’all thought it should be then you automatically think it’s good and cheer for it despite the product and wrestlers still sucking and being bland and boring as fuck.

  • @Chillboyhaad

    @Chillboyhaad

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SpongeBob5000_ Didn’t ask, don’t care

  • @SpongeBob5000_

    @SpongeBob5000_

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Chillboyhaad Ur gay

  • @greatnessdelton1381

    @greatnessdelton1381

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Chillboyhaad Lol, he's done nothing but post shitty takes all week in this thread. Cook him.

  • @themusic6808
    @themusic68087 ай бұрын

    Growing up watching WWE during the Attitude Era was just a whole vibe. On pay-per-view Sundays me and my friends would go to my friends dads place because he had one of those illegal TV channel scrambler boxes (which you could only find at the seediest pawn shops) and if you couldn’t be there you’d still watch it with the channel scrambled to try and make out what was happening 😂 but watching the PPV’s live felt like a totally exclusive event, was a big deal. Then I’d have to sneak up late the next day to watch the fall out on Monday Night Raw because my mom wouldn’t let me watch it. Good times !

  • @josephmcgaha7959

    @josephmcgaha7959

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes sir we had one of those hot boxes. It was on channel 44. Times were better then

  • @khan-gg1ke
    @khan-gg1ke7 ай бұрын

    Majority of the current wrestlers now a days are just focused on putting 5 star matches! They are happy to live in their small bubble where internet marks are gonna praise them for putting amazing matches !

  • @BIGSERBS
    @BIGSERBS3 ай бұрын

    I remember seeing Raw live in 2006 and the pyro at the start of the show was amazing, it let you know that this was going to be more than wrestling, it was going to be an unforgettable night

  • @Kalel2.0
    @Kalel2.07 ай бұрын

    While it much more enjoyable under HHH then it has been in years and the womens division is a complete upgrade one thing different today is the focus on few ppl on the card,tone down of violent elements and unique edgy storylines i get a lot of it doesnt fly by today but its what makes it fun. Its why the Ruthless Aggression and Attitude Eras are looked on fondly they werent afraid of blurring lines and taking risks

  • @fungames821

    @fungames821

    7 ай бұрын

    Blame chris benoit lol since yall old heads love complaining

  • @startrakambassador3632

    @startrakambassador3632

    7 ай бұрын

    @@fungames821 nah man, blame bad creative and PC culture.

  • @deckzone3000

    @deckzone3000

    7 ай бұрын

    It's gone down the toilet since HHH took charge.

  • @lancethefilmguy9392

    @lancethefilmguy9392

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@startrakambassador3632Blame both

  • @taso56
    @taso567 ай бұрын

    You can definitely tell that the story lines are unnatural/force/scripted. Before wrestlers had more control of there character

  • @lobal2
    @lobal26 ай бұрын

    One thing not mentioned, WWE was literally at war with WCW. The attitude era was largely great because all the stops got pulled out. There was a while there where WWE looked like it was gonna lose. It actually turned out to be the best thing for WWE. With their majors star leaving or being hurt it allowed for others to rise the ranks, namely Austin. But in the end, victory defeated the WWE and it went back to the 80's pg stuff.

  • @nonames1139
    @nonames11397 ай бұрын

    I think a few reasons it feels different today are : 1. There are no legitimate storylines Stories like stone cold Vs the rock , Shawn vs Bret hart , Hhh vs the rock/stone cold , Shane vs Vince , stone cold vs Vince, hogan and Andre the giant . We just don’t have these anymore 2. There’s no stakes with the matches . They don’t have weight to them . 3. Young stars are always overshadowed by part timers. At some point , The rock will just come in and completely demolish any star power from the newer wrestlers 4. Social media , everyone knows all The big surprises coming . You know who’s gonna win, you know What wrestlers are making their debut , you know who The surprise guests are , you know everything that’s gonna happen. Champions mean nothing because it’s just who The company wants Not who The fans want .

  • @My6119
    @My61197 ай бұрын

    It sacrificed its old fans to attract new fans, and that's how business works. It's never made to repay the fans for their commitment, kinda like not making someone feel at home once invited in, it's more like being invited to do chores.

  • @pendafen7405
    @pendafen74057 ай бұрын

    We changed. The world changed. How could entertainment not change along with that?

  • @bb8942

    @bb8942

    7 ай бұрын

    Hands down guaranteed you bring back attitude era no one watches today crap product....

  • @mikeygraves16

    @mikeygraves16

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@bb8942 What you guys fail to realize is that the attitude era wasn't awesome just because of more adult content. It was a moment in time. Everything that was going on in the late 90's/early 2000's, the way the world wasn't obsessed with being politically correct, etc. made it all come together to create the perfect storm. You can't bring back the way WWE did things back then and expect it to feel the same. That's how it works everything in life. Things change, time marches on, and nothing's ever a great as the original 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @thegameking3931

    @thegameking3931

    7 ай бұрын

    @@mikeygraves16 this PPL acts like WWE won't land in controversy if they started to do attitude or ruthless agression stuff in today's generation. Same people will start moral policy class in storyline by saying it's negative influence to people example men's female physical interaction or divas exposure like bikini contest and many others or any abusive or slang passing in promos

  • @TheBamaPrinceable

    @TheBamaPrinceable

    7 ай бұрын

    True. It needs to be said though that not all change is for the better. While the AE may have been a moment in time, it also possessed certain positive qualities both overt and covert that keeps people holding it in high regard decades later. Qualities that the modern product simply lacks.

  • @hnaku8748

    @hnaku8748

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TheBamaPrinceable I'd say it's the good storylines and characters more than anything. AEW provides almost everything attitude era fans demanded. Blood, unscripted promos, good wrestling. Also an alternative major promotion like we had WCW in past. There were thousands in attending in attitude era, but modern internet has millions connected. So someone will always complain. I say we're fine if we choose to enjoy it. I get the gist of the video, but wrestling has actually had a mini revival recently. Numbers have gone up too.

  • @jaycolins2430
    @jaycolins24307 ай бұрын

    Such a great video(film?) As a 70s baby who grew up reading comics in 80s and 90s, and also loving movies, I was so excited to see them being brought together that I didn't even realize I was being trained to only watch Marvel movies.. at least consciously. I do remember finally coming to the realization during the run up to End Game that that's all I went to the theater to see anymore. It even diminished my ability to enjoy the old dramas amd comedies that I used to love(I watched As Good As It Gets so many times). All that said, Im very happy that I still have tons of old dvds in four big CD cases. Maybe one day I'll be able to get my teenage son into watching them with me... Damn you KZread!! 😎

  • @Grillinnap
    @Grillinnap7 ай бұрын

    Watching WWE as a kid vs as an adult is a huge factor

  • @metalfacemark
    @metalfacemark7 ай бұрын

    i really enjoyed your video, well put together. As someone who watched wrestling from about 1985-1990 and then only got back into it last year after my mate insisted on our US road trip that we goto wrestlemania it got me hooked again, ive definetely seen an improvement over the last year of watching.

  • @McWaffles86
    @McWaffles867 ай бұрын

    The culture is different, the people are all different that’s why it’s different.

  • @laurafrost705
    @laurafrost705Ай бұрын

    80”s 90”s and 2000”s were good days for wrestling

  • @Turk_2023
    @Turk_20237 ай бұрын

    Star power, nostalga from 80s-90s seeing the old timers feuding wth the Rock and Stone Cold. Most importantly great story telling, great matches, the comedy, the edginess. Was just amazing, and why it got better ratings back then than pretty much anything on tv today except huge NFL games and shows like game of thrones and breaking bad.

  • @IXSymbioticxTrevXI2019
    @IXSymbioticxTrevXI20197 ай бұрын

    The Attitude Era was the best

  • @JagpreetSingh-ih8os
    @JagpreetSingh-ih8os7 ай бұрын

    Attitude era , A legendary era

  • @k-popworldwide3282
    @k-popworldwide32827 ай бұрын

    We are just getting advanced in technology but I can definitely say that Wrestling back in the day was so advanced with all the storylines, stars, segments, promos, faction, and the execution of them was so good.

  • @tobiaslofi
    @tobiaslofi7 ай бұрын

    Because back then wrestlers looked like tough men who could beat you up while looking cool. Nowadays wrestlers are smaller and look like model-boys.

  • @TheFatMan

    @TheFatMan

    4 ай бұрын

    Jobbers/mid carders

  • @BlossomField91

    @BlossomField91

    Ай бұрын

    Wrestling fans are so fickle smh. People used to bitch about Vince only caring about 6'2"+ juiced beef cakes, and overlooking smaller guys like Daniel Bryan, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, etc. Now they do have a lot more prominent smaller men, and they want the tall steroid monkeys back.

  • @mycahjofficial
    @mycahjofficial7 ай бұрын

    *My biggest gripe with modern WWE is the lack of star power. Back in the Attitude Era the star power was insane. You had Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H Undertaker, Mick Foley and even Kurt Angle. All those mega stars weren’t just captivating from a character standpoint but they were also huge draws. Nowadays, it’s just not the same because one of the things WWE has been justifiably criticized about is their failure to capitalize on wrestlers who become white hot with the crowd only to completely squander their momentum because they’re very selective of who gets to be the top star and who doesn’t. WWE nowadays is all about Roman Reigns and nobody else and I hate that so much. Just to be clear, I have nothing against Roman Reigns personally. I’m glad that WWE have finally allowed him to do some of the greatest work of his career with the Tribal Chief gimmick ever since turning heel but my God does it get so annoying how they’re always devaluing and diminishing other wrestlers on the roster just to make him the end-all-be-all superstar of the entire company. You can’t always rely on one person being being your only top star because it’s not a one-man show.*

  • @MAriomcmahon1

    @MAriomcmahon1

    7 ай бұрын

    Roman reigns, Cody Rhodes, LA Knight YEAH, randy Orton, John Cena, Seth Rollins, Rey Mysterio, Logan Paul,bad bunny,jey uso,Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, Jimmy uso,solo SIKOA, Sheamus,drew McIntyre

  • @fungames821

    @fungames821

    7 ай бұрын

    Blame chris benoit lol since yall old heads love complaining

  • @noname-hf9ty

    @noname-hf9ty

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@MAriomcmahon1you haven't even touched on any women's wrestlers, honestly cut the older wrestlers and put in the big name women

  • @DIBSonManyRose

    @DIBSonManyRose

    7 ай бұрын

    What an absolute tone deaf take. Wwe has more stars now than they had in last 10 years easily. Roman , usos, gunther,chad gable, cody,sami, owens, rhea, bianca,mysterio Charlotte,becky,seth, lashey, bayley. And there are lots of face wrestlers which is rare

  • @TheFatMan

    @TheFatMan

    7 ай бұрын

    @@DIBSonManyRose No one even knows who they are apart from wrestling fans. Wrestlers from the rock n roll and Attitude era were so big that they went mainstream

  • @RBG9000
    @RBG90007 ай бұрын

    Russo is a meme but he must be credited for the emphasis on storytelling over wrestling technicality and for having something for everyone in the roster to do.

  • @neverbeganforme

    @neverbeganforme

    7 ай бұрын

    I don’t get why people hate on him when he co-managed one of the greatest era in pro wrestling history that’s still trying to be emulated til this day? Did he say something wrong?

  • @martialarts6617

    @martialarts6617

    7 ай бұрын

    @@neverbeganforme revisionist history. Because when he went to WCW, it was already dying. Russo try to do what he could to save WCW, but with the merger of AOL in time warner, they didn’t want wrestling. And also, there was too much creative control in peoples contracts, so he wasn’t able to do things. And he gets made fun of for the pole matches or the Judy Bagwell on a forklift match …. And when he got hired for TNA things he did there. But something that Russo has always said, is that because a lot of these people grew up in the wrestling industry, they always go back to wrestling. I was talking to a couple of friends of mine, the other night about it and look at the character development: they’re really hasn’t been a lot of character development among a lot of the wrestlers. They’re just generic characters. But I guess the shorter answer it is that he didn’t say anything it’s the fact that when he says some thing , Bruce Prichard, or Eric Bischoff Will come on their podcast and say no he’s lying. That’s not how that happened or that’s not what happened. And since Jim Cornette hates him, probably a little bit out of jealousy, too people jump on the bandwagon of whatever he says. Like I remember when they did the Darkside of the ring bash at the beach 2000 , where Russo put the title on Booker T, you saw People in the comments going I can’t wait to hear with Jim Cornette hast to say…. And it’s like the only people who have any knowledge of what actually happened that night were Hogan, Bischoff and Russo. Jim didn’t even work for the company. Do we quite honest also, a lot of the difference with things is just a Wrestling fans like, for example, I watches are in the attitude Era. I am not a weekly viewer now. Everyone wants a Wrestling to go back to the way it was, but no one wants to admit that Vince Russo along with Ed Ferrara where a huge part in making that come true. One of the big things from the attitude era, Austin doing the beer truck Austin refused , Russo had to keep on convincing him that him come in with a beer truck and spray them with beer was gonna be great and then Austin finally agreed. Everybody critiques him so much because certain points are focused on in wrestling history . But we’re all supposed to forget things for example that the main event at a pay-per-view was once Vince and Shane McMahon versus Shawn, Michaels and God ….. and they used a spotlight for God’s entrance at the pay-per-view…. That’s just one example of stupid shit. They were just forget that the WWE did without Russo.

  • @donelsw6676

    @donelsw6676

    7 ай бұрын

    Cornette explains it perfectly ngl. He was just a guy who didn't care or understand the wrestling business. How corny explains it is that for every 1 good idea they would use on tv He had 100 shit ones. He had no idea how to manage long time storytelling either. That's why he made wcw ten times worse. I'll give him his credit as his ideas contributed to the greatness of the attitude era. He's just a person that needs people to balance him. Left to his own devices he will ruin your company 😂

  • @martialarts6617

    @martialarts6617

    7 ай бұрын

    @@donelsw6676 and all agree with that I think the thing is that nobody gives him the credit for what he contributed. You can’t say that you love the attitude era, but don’t acknowledge what Russo contributed. And I run a business myself , I have somebody who is very much like Vince Russo. He needs somebody to keep him on task and focused. However, WCW if you haven’t read the nitro book by Guy Evans. You really should check that out because it gives a lot of insight into what was going on on the corporate side of WCW. Really fascinating stuff about people in corporate making all of these decisions about WCW future. Now if we’re talking about Russo TNA…. Thankfully we have Jeff Jarrett’s podcast. Kind of straighten out what was going on down there. I’ll give you a more recent one the brawl for all… they had the Darkside of the ring documentary. Everyone says this was a dumb idea and it’s all Vince Russo’s fault. I’ll raise you that is Vince McMahon gave a shit about his wrestlers that storyline would’ve been done. But since Vincent man liked the idea he kept going. That’s the issue with the whole filter story that everybody likes to tell. And Jim Cornette points out that Vince Russo in Vincent’s McMahon very similar likes. So when Russo pitch the idea of let’s see who is the real tough guy, McMahon liked it. I mean, there’s so much to dissect and go through , but ultimately Russo needs the help of someone in the machine of the WWF was where Vince Russo was able to be creative. WCW had no system to allow him to have his best ideas. Russo even said it himself when he walked in he asked when the production meeting was and they told him there wasn’t one. He was way in over his head. He thought he was gonna walk into WCW and it was going to be the WWF and unfortunately that was not the truth.

  • @lancethefilmguy9392

    @lancethefilmguy9392

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@martialarts6617As much as I don't like Russo, you have a point. I think most fans forget about how the modern day culture would shout CANCEL! if WWE went back to the Attitude Era days. They wouldn't last a month let alone a year. Also, I think most of these so called fans were only fans of the fad instead of actual wrestling fans.

  • @historian3290
    @historian32907 ай бұрын

    The whole vibe back then was different, no social media, hardly any interviews from wrestlers in newspapers, didn’t give away anything storyline wise. Now it’s all out in the open and it’s like a kiddies show, the attitude era had some crazy story lines.

  • @7dream7scape7
    @7dream7scape77 ай бұрын

    One of the main factors is people go through phases and we all age so it eventually puts an end to all good things and we have to adapt to new generation stepping up/filling the boots which is never the same.

  • @JawadAli-ti4sy
    @JawadAli-ti4sy7 ай бұрын

    How can you forget no more Punk and metal music!

  • @Kalel2.0

    @Kalel2.0

    7 ай бұрын

    As rock fan I'm very mixed towards this as the punk rock gives an awesome Edgy feeling but you have to understand that Rock and metal isn't as popular as it was from the late 90s to late 2000's

  • @noname-hf9ty

    @noname-hf9ty

    7 ай бұрын

    Rap and hip-hop is the popular thing going on, so music at WWE shows reflect that, honestly some of the rap songs they've produced for some wrestlers are all time greats

  • @fabio0352

    @fabio0352

    7 ай бұрын

    Problem is hip hop and rap songs don't reflect the concept of wrestling. When i hear those new themes it's like a popularity contest. This is wrestling, you need the right type of music to help the hype. Regardless of each and everyone music taste, it's clear that Rock and Metal music fit better for this

  • @noname-hf9ty

    @noname-hf9ty

    7 ай бұрын

    @@fabio0352 rap songs get people hype what do you mean. The Usos music gets people hype, both of Sasha Banks's themes were awesome sounding and full of character, AJ styles's theme is great and he loves it

  • @fabio0352

    @fabio0352

    7 ай бұрын

    @@noname-hf9ty you quoted some great examples, yet hard to believe they reach the level of the themes we heard with Edge, Batista, Orton, Punk, Austin (the Disturbed one), Hogan, Triple H, RVD. Besides, to be' honest i was talking more about the intro theme of the shows. On some specific characters i agree a rap music is totally fit

  • @Junkosei100
    @Junkosei1007 ай бұрын

    Storytelling and buildup was good back in the day because most of us believed everything was real. Who wouldn't want to see Stone Cold beat Mr. McMahon, or DX wanting to face the Corporation, or Taker vs. Kane. We waited to see what happened next. Kayfabe was still somewhat believable. Nowadays, every wrestler is friends with everyone else and it's tough to buy into rivalries or heated storylines.

  • @dualshock3462

    @dualshock3462

    7 ай бұрын

    LOLWUT?! Nobody believed it was real, we loved it because it was entertaining, because almost every undercarder was interesting and relevant and because you couldn’t miss one second of the show because anything could happen. You really think someone believed Steve Austin could beat up his boss every week and never lose his job? I love the AE and RA eras, I like this video and wanted to agree with you, but your comment is just nonsense😂

  • @terrellp22

    @terrellp22

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@dualshock3462 bruh everyone believed wrestling was real until 2000 2001, so stop the 🧢

  • @dualshock3462

    @dualshock3462

    7 ай бұрын

    @@terrellp22 Holy crap, you’re “special”. The only people who believed wrestling was real until 2000 were people who were back then 5 years old. Maybe you were 5 back then and thought it was real, so you think people who were back then 40 years old thought the same🤣 But I guess you wasn’t even born back then, just a PG era kid who tries to get likes if he posts something cool. You really think anyone older than 5 or 8 believed if a wrestler got punched in the face and stands up after 2 seconds, with no blood or lost teeth, no black eye after the match etc. thought it was possible and real? Go post another cap emoji, this discussion isn’t for you🤣

  • @hnaku8748

    @hnaku8748

    7 ай бұрын

    And that's why the Punk backstage drama had me so much engaged for the potential storyline with The Elite. Sadly Jack Perry made it sure we don't get it for the near future. Though him being back in WWE could be interesting too.

  • @iykejnr6296

    @iykejnr6296

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@dualshock3462most people believed it was real to be frank

  • @stillwaters45
    @stillwaters45Ай бұрын

    The 80s & and 90s were by far the best era in the wwf. I'm so glad that I got to experience the best times ever. It will never be the same again.

  • @Pronounced_Love
    @Pronounced_Love2 ай бұрын

    If your a wwe superstar they should sign a deal to not have a personal social media account to stay in character because i remember growing up thinking these wrestlers were like that all day "talking mess and slamming ppl thru tables but now its like a job"

  • @WackyJay9
    @WackyJay97 ай бұрын

    As an old fan that has returned to being a consistent viewer, nothing compares to the attitude era and ruthless aggression times. But I will say they've been doing some great things in the 2020s, case in point why I've tuned in again

  • @Speedyreedy1218

    @Speedyreedy1218

    7 ай бұрын

    They can't get me to tune in again.

  • @hnaku8748

    @hnaku8748

    7 ай бұрын

    I came back to regular watching after AEW formed. It might not be like the old times but as least the major promotions are trying now. Healthy competition has helped. I had quit because honestly WWE/Vince didn't even seem to care at certain points during 2010s. Almost took the audience for granted with no threat.

  • @WackyJay9

    @WackyJay9

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@hnaku8748i agree entirely, it was a really bad beginning 2008 honestly all through the 2010s with certain bright spots here and there. But yeah it was stale, competition definitely revitalized things for sure

  • @monymiller4005
    @monymiller40057 ай бұрын

    Let's just say that i'm glad to have been there during Attitude. And THANK YOU, Hunter!

  • @benjaminjo
    @benjaminjo6 ай бұрын

    The rauchiness. Edgeness. Sexiness. Dark humor. THAT'S what made WWE so GREAT! It was fun, unpredicatable. Didn't take itself TOO seriously. Had INCREDIBLE, well-thought out storylines with brilliant twists and turns. They took chances. They took a lot of RISKS. But like all things that rise to the top, they got comfortable AT the top. They were no longer 'fighting' to get there. They've reached the summit. What else was there for them to strive for? They took out their competition (wcw and ecw), went public with shareholders, and grew TOO big to where now no one with any real great ideas can really come forward and shine outside of the top brass at the company. Before, as a wrestler, you were allowed to take risks, figure out your own beat, find your voice, take part in the storylines, and really blaze a trail. Now, they're told what to do, when to do it, and how. I'm glad I grew up in an era of wrestling's growth, and have so many fond memories of that time. It was glorious. A time when men and boys were allowed to be men and boys. A time where EVERYBODY was made fun of - blacks, jews, white people, short people, tall people, fat people, women, midgets, etc. Now, WWE is pussified, or "soft", as undertaker more politely said, for little boys instead of teenage boys and young adult men. Pretty soon, their core audience will be fucking toddlers, if it's not that already. It's so sad, because in their hayday, they were THE show to watch each week. Nonetheless, the WWE provided YEARS of jaw dropping entertaining moments I will never for get and will forever be grateful for. It's just very sad that they've lost what made them great in the first place, what brought them to the top. But...for what it's worth, the WWF will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart.

  • @phistoltv5196

    @phistoltv5196

    6 ай бұрын

    It was inescapable, it is just the changing of the times. The late 90's and 2000's were a lot more gritty. Its not only Wrestling. Other forms of media such as movies, comedy, subject matter in music

  • @benjaminjo

    @benjaminjo

    6 ай бұрын

    @@phistoltv5196 yeah. I hate that. Society has become very feminine, and that's also reflected in the onslaught of weird liberal ideology like transgenderism, accepting of illegal immigration, and very feminine behaviour in the men who look to women as the benchmark for a strong society. That "grit", edge, power, is something America has quickly lost, and I hate that for the country I love.

  • @gnick_1005

    @gnick_1005

    3 ай бұрын

    nigga we're in 2024 not in 1999

  • @ivank8742

    @ivank8742

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@benjaminjoWell said

  • @rfpchar
    @rfpchar7 ай бұрын

    The less phones from crowd and flashes of camera lights during spots

  • @megavolt67
    @megavolt677 ай бұрын

    Some good points made here. In the end, the star power of the Attitude Era up and down the card as well as across promotions combined with the competition driving both WCW and WWF to try different things did indeed set an impossibly high bar. Ruthless did an admirable job of trying to keep it going in the absence of real competition and with two of the biggest once in a lifetime stars ever having a premature end to their wrestling careers (Rock and Austin), but you could already see the cracks forming, especially with HHH's reign of terror. People like to give HHH credit for doing good things in an official capacity in his post-wrestling career, but his backstage politicking back in the day and booking himself to be champion so many times (and also as the guy who could be relied upon to bury former WCW guys time and time again) is also part of the reason people lost interest in the product. The Attitude era peak of surprising mainstream popularity and garnering interest from every demographic will never happen again. AEW is not WCW and WWE is not WWF. The only thing of interest to me in the WWE these days is the women's division, and even that has been held down at certain times by questionable booking and lack of storylines for many of the women.

  • @AntPerez215
    @AntPerez2157 ай бұрын

    Attidue era and ruthless aggression era was legendary. I stoped watching around the time cena went on his second championship run. All i do now is buy the games.

  • @significantstrike-nd8cs
    @significantstrike-nd8cs3 ай бұрын

    In general 80s era wrestling - larger than life superheroes in costumes with matches that told stories 90’s-early 2000s - more believable human like characters,bad asses in jeans and t shirts, technitians performing amazing over the top matches. Current era - social media cartoon character selling merch that talk for 25min and wrestle for 8.

  • @shaunalan7542
    @shaunalan75427 ай бұрын

    Edge and christian vs the hardys made the ruthless aggression era amazing

  • @Fmacayan
    @Fmacayan7 ай бұрын

    I’d say that the only place where wwe drops the ball nowadays (and it’s a big reason why people may not like today’s product) is the writing. Cody’s return was amazing, but they haven’t done a great job building him up since. Cena’s back but he hasn’t had much to do, even though i like him putting over LA Knight.

  • @micahwimberley2687

    @micahwimberley2687

    7 ай бұрын

    Cody has won every match and feud he’s been in since he returned… he doesn’t need to be built back up he’s a superstar already

  • @Fmacayan

    @Fmacayan

    7 ай бұрын

    @@micahwimberley2687 noted and I LOVE Cody being the heroic figure of the WWE, but I feel like they could be doing a better job at creating a Herculean journey for him so that when he eventually “finishes the story”, the extra year feels iconic & worth the effort. Playing their cards right could give them their most universally loved/popular role model superstar since Hulk Hogan (ironically) . This rumored feud with Drew McIntyre that they seem to be setting up could kickstart things tho.

  • @jarredkrum9894

    @jarredkrum9894

    7 ай бұрын

    Cody fn is so overrated and his promos are boring af lol

  • @jarredkrum9894

    @jarredkrum9894

    7 ай бұрын

    Who gives a crap about him finishing the story. Goldust will always be more entertaining then cody tbh.

  • @Fmacayan

    @Fmacayan

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jarredkrum9894 “who cares about Cody” literally a majority of WWE fans and even some of the wrestlers. Just look at the crowd pops and merch sales my friend. What Cody is doing/could do in this second WWE run is so good for the business

  • @MesameBendicta
    @MesameBendicta7 ай бұрын

    I get chills watching the attitude era, and it may have been terrible over the years but now with HHH wrestling is so enjoyable again i could argue it's one of the best it's ever been. Roman,Rhodes,LA Knight, and the NXT guys are doing really well.

  • @fungames821

    @fungames821

    7 ай бұрын

    Blame chris benoit lol since yall old heads love complaining

  • @Speedyreedy1218

    @Speedyreedy1218

    7 ай бұрын

    You're enjoying this current product? 🤮

  • @xcv253

    @xcv253

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@Speedyreedy1218its not bad, get nostalgia out your thick skull and realize that

  • @hnaku8748

    @hnaku8748

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Speedyreedy1218 Trust me this is better than the single monopoly garbage we had by mid-late 2010s. I had quit too. Numbers don't lie, it has picked up a bit since AEW emerged and there's been some healthy competition. Last decade RAW at one point only had 3500 fans attending, Smackdown had even lesser with

  • @Speedyreedy1218

    @Speedyreedy1218

    7 ай бұрын

    @@hnaku8748 It's not to me. Numbers CAN lie actually. You can manipulate a statistic to fit any narrative you want. Most arenas in the 90s were renovated in the last 10-15 years and hold more people. So your numbers aren't accurate comparisons. AE had standing room only and turned away folks. Modern wwe cooks up their attendance records especially at outdoor shows. I keep up with happenings via podcast. Whenever a podcaster highlights something they suggest was "must see," be it a match or segment, I look on KZread for that moment and get disappointed (Be it Shield, Bloodline, Street Profits, DIY, Fight Club, Brutes, etc). Some of the women I approved, but all of the men...it's boring, cringe, on piss poor imitations of what used to be good. I've had more fun going back and watching 90s WCW stuff I missed out on in my youth because by 97, I kept my loyalty to wwf than majority of contemporary wwe. But if you like it, I'm glad you're happy.

  • @markwhitley2145
    @markwhitley21456 ай бұрын

    What plays a big part in the feel of wwe is the CAMERA CREW..Now days they show way more than back then and also to many close ups ..back then it was maybe 2 cameras and they only highlighted the epic stunts

  • @thefaithslayer2553
    @thefaithslayer25536 ай бұрын

    Another factor is that the Attitude Era represented the last generation of wrestlers who had to pay their dues by working their asses off in the territory system before making it to the big time. Those guys and gals had to spend years packing themselves tight into cars and vans, driving for hours upon hours up and down the highways to wrestle in auditoriums and rec centers all while getting paid about $50 for a match. Slogging through that level of a grind will make you appreciate that opportunity so much more once you've earned it and you will work even harder to maintain it. That's largely missing from today's crop of wrestlers.

  • @eddherring4972
    @eddherring49727 ай бұрын

    Love ‘em or hate ‘em you had stories and personalities which just are not there anymore. Wrestling Entertainment had a golden couple of eras Attitude and Ruthless Agression. Stone Cold, The Rock, HHH and DX, Kurt “You suck” Angle, Jericho, Undertaker and Kane with Bearer, Right To Sensor, Dudley’s, Hardy’s, APA, Hardcore division, light heavyweight division etc etc. there was something for everyone. Commissioner Foley or Regal, Mr McMahon and all sorts of stories, from spilled coffee feuds to first blood, inferno and buried alive matches. Hit and run stories, brutal beat downs, death defying titantron leaps and more. Every week it was like you had 2 free Pay-Per-View events which you never wanted to miss. I got into wrestling entertainment because I saw a highlight show on Sky1 on a Saturday, it just happened to be on. I saw The Undertaker in a blue denim shirt and I thought ‘why is he dressed like that?” I knew of the Undertaker as in I had heard of him and I knew he was quite tall and wore gothic type clothes (sort of). Anyway next thing I know the stage blew up and this huge masked man came to the ring and chucked the Undertaker through it. I wanted to see more of the masked guy and started watching highlights every week, then when I realised it was on Sky Sports I was hooked.

  • @ssjg4Gogeta

    @ssjg4Gogeta

    7 ай бұрын

    Fellow Brit!

  • @BlossomField91

    @BlossomField91

    Ай бұрын

    I hated the fact WWE was on Sky Sports because although we had Sky, we didn't have the sports channels. I could watch SmackDown on Sky One on Saturday nights, but not RAW as that was only Sky Sports. I remember around 2005, I think sometime before WrestleMania 21 if my memory isn't failing me, SmackDown got moved to Sky Sports and being annoyed. I'd only just started to use the internet then and didn't know about illegal streams yet, but that ended my interest in wrestling. I did try to get back into WWE a few times since then, but it got less and less recognisable as time went on. I remember following RAW and SmackDown for a few weeks in 2017 and it bore virtually no resemblance to the stuff I watched in the early to mid 00s. It wasn't gritty anymore, everything from the entrances to the ring itself looked really polished and too electronic.

  • @tarshiaholmes5614
    @tarshiaholmes56147 ай бұрын

    Man i miss the attitude era the 90s were the best the crowds were crazy wrestlers can say whatever they want & yeah i hope they take the gimmick ppv's away & bring back the cool stage sets but anyway great video.

  • @fungames821

    @fungames821

    7 ай бұрын

    Blame chris benoit lol since yall old heads love complaining

  • @tarshiaholmes5614

    @tarshiaholmes5614

    7 ай бұрын

    @@fungames821 if you wanna blame Benoit have at it

  • @fungames821

    @fungames821

    7 ай бұрын

    then who to blame?@@tarshiaholmes5614

  • @meinhartesrohr4588
    @meinhartesrohr45887 ай бұрын

    PG restrictions ruined so much Atmosphere.

  • @rockhardsolid3394
    @rockhardsolid3394Ай бұрын

    That Cena kick out compilation was hilarious!!

  • @lwandomadikizela2213
    @lwandomadikizela22137 ай бұрын

    During Attitude Era and Ruthless Aggression Era, WWE had the wrestling industry on lock however they became complaisant and catered to children alienating the core fan base. Since AEW got formed and going back to the roots of what makes wrestling great in the 90s, WWE had to up their game and now we're getting a much better product than we got 10 years ago albeit still have some problems.

  • @dualshock3462

    @dualshock3462

    7 ай бұрын

    But Vince is so out of touch, he thinks the children are the same like in 1969. Most children today play for example GTA or are listening to hip hop. It sounds funny but the Attitude Era was also aimed at children because most kids loved and watched WWE during that time. I don’t know what type children if children he meant when he changed the product. When WWE did the edgy content, it was the main topic in schools.

  • @reeseangle9621

    @reeseangle9621

    7 ай бұрын

    Fans walked away in the ruthless aggression era

  • @lancethefilmguy9392

    @lancethefilmguy9392

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@reeseangle9621You sure?

  • @lancethefilmguy9392

    @lancethefilmguy9392

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@dualshock3462As a kid during the Attitude Era, I can relate

  • @dualshock3462

    @dualshock3462

    7 ай бұрын

    @@lancethefilmguy9392 Yes they did, since the Attitude Era the viewership dropped. Now fans talk about the Ruthless Aggression era in a romantic way because of nostalgia but I was a member of many wrestling forums around that time and the majority of the fans complained back then shitting on that era, saying how they miss the Attitude Era and how the Ruthless Aggression era was crap.

  • @Beanmachine91
    @Beanmachine912 ай бұрын

    i love being able to see all this wrastlin content on YT because i missed out on the attitude era as a kid in the 90s but as i got older my parents let me watch smackdown in the early 2000s. RIP eddie guerrero

  • @Turppa21
    @Turppa217 ай бұрын

    The cameras used to have a movie look to them.

  • @tonytony9765
    @tonytony97657 ай бұрын

    It’s more acrobatics and gymnastics, plus I feel like most up and coming wrestlers don’t trust each other in the ring , you can see terribly timed moves because these wrestlers are scared of getting a little punch , back in the attitude era and ruthless aggression era most wrestlers trusted each other so when they threw a punch they knew the timing of it but they also weren’t afraid to get hurt and most wrestlers now a days care more about they’re faces and how they look then actually putting on a good performance , except for the women wrestlers I feel like they just want to put on a great match even if they get hurt a little they’re ruthless out there and I love it .

  • @FernieAriel
    @FernieAriel7 ай бұрын

    And the commentary my dude, THE COMMENTARY. The King and JR were the GOAT.

  • @AnAdorableWombat1
    @AnAdorableWombat16 ай бұрын

    Wrestling sucks so bad nowadays. I used to admit I watched wrestling with pride back then. Now, it's almost embarrassing to watch it now.

  • @algo2957
    @algo29577 ай бұрын

    1:38 lmao that sounded lynchian "HAAUUELLL INTHE SAUUUUUUHHHHHHH"

  • @zachsmith1634
    @zachsmith16347 ай бұрын

    I’m glad I was a kid during the Attitude Era growing up with the TV-14 content. The kids today are going to grow up to be soft.

  • @L1RW
    @L1RW2 ай бұрын

    I think as soon as it went HD in 2008, that’s when it started to drop off. I gave up by 2010-11. I still watch the older content and have watched some newer stuff. However, the crowd are almost silent and all you see is phones everywhere.

  • @FeminineAroma
    @FeminineAroma7 ай бұрын

    Every time they announced the type of matches that Superstars will compete against each other in (e.g. Hell in a Cell), I always got goosebumps 🔥 It’s little things like this why I actually enjoyed watching the Attitude Era. Not to mention, I just feel like WWE as a whole has been censored a lot all because of the newer generation attending the shows too. And the Superstars today are just Superstars I’ll have to get used to and have to relearn their names. When I started back watching from 2014-2018 I had to relearn names and I started out not liking the new Superstars who joined the main rosters, but they slowly grew on me. 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @algo2957
    @algo29577 ай бұрын

    Things are too "politically correct" now. The modern HD era also entirely lost the grittiness of the Attitude era.

  • @mvg9699

    @mvg9699

    7 ай бұрын

    That’s kinda what happens when something turns pg

  • @fungames821

    @fungames821

    7 ай бұрын

    Blame chris benoit lol since yall old heads love complaining

  • @fungames821

    @fungames821

    7 ай бұрын

    Blame chris benoit lol since yall old heads love complaining

  • @AtharvaDahibhate-yz2hz

    @AtharvaDahibhate-yz2hz

    7 ай бұрын

    @@fungames821 What a stupid comment 🤦‍♂

  • @hitmangaming2878

    @hitmangaming2878

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@fungames821yea I agree

  • @AntPerez215
    @AntPerez2157 ай бұрын

    The games help me to know whats going on and whos on the rosters lol.

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