Qantas has used Hong Kong, Bangkok and Dubai for kangaroo route flights before. Dubai because of a codeshare agreement with Emirates, which replaced the Singapore stop for 5 years. They used to operate 4 Australia-London flights, 2 from Melbourne (via Hong Kong and Singapore), 2 from Sydney (via Bangkok and Singapore). They were slowly reduced to just those via Singapore between 2012 and 2016.

@paulsz6194

2 жыл бұрын

But Dubai has never had that sort of an attraction with Australians as Singapore’s had. It’s a more convenient way to fly if your onward destination from Dubai is a Middle Eastern country, and it’s more convenient if your onward destination is a European county, as most European destinations Emirates flies to are within a 5.5-6hr flight time. But Australians love doing a stop over for 2-3 days in a country that’s Timezone is not too dissimilar to Australia’s meaning You don’t really lose time due to jet lag.

@billtang79

2 жыл бұрын

Australians probably likes Singapore because Singapore Changi is a mere two hours flight between Phuket, or other popular south East Asian destinations like Vietnam and Jetstar Asia ( owned by Qantas) has a good air hub base in Singapore, flying between Singapore and these popular beaches.

My first flight to London in 1976, was a 1 stop from Perth via Bombay on a 747-200B.

@barriedouglas7272

2 жыл бұрын

And my 2nd flight to London in 1989 was a Qantas flight to Harare across the Indian Ocean on a 747-300, then a British Airways 747-200B overnight flight to London, Happy Days.

@derrywright5101

2 жыл бұрын

Would that flight have been serviced by B.A.

@barriedouglas7272

2 жыл бұрын

@@derrywright5101 no it was a Qantas scheduled flight, left Perth at 7 00pm on Friday, arrived London 6 00am Saturday.

@marktierney2986

2 жыл бұрын

I did the same Flt from Syd to Perth via Bombay. I remember getting off in Bombay and walking upstairs to the transit lounge where a very ordinary bottle of Fanta was on offer. My Flt was probably Sept 1975 as I was on my way from London to Munich for the Beer Festival owe to be 19 again!!!

@Saifullah.Q

2 жыл бұрын

Evidence?

I used to fly LHR to Sydney once a year on QF1/2, back in the days of Bangkok stopovers though. I would usually spend a week or so in Thailand and take myself to one of their beaches/islands (on the way back to London). The last time I flew to Oz was with Cathay in 2018, we stopped in Hong Kong, the best business lounges I've ever experienced 👌 Keep up the great videos 🎬

Something worth mentioning - going via Singapore allows passengers on QF1/2 to connect to/from Melbourne, Brisbane or Perth, as well as continuing through to Sydney. It is also a well-timed stop - coming in before you want to sleep.

Having done this flight both all the way through to Sydney and staying in Singapore, I can confirm that the break is much needed and welcome! It always feels so much longer when you go all the way through to Sydney in 1 go

Having done that route many times now, I’m not too sure if flying nonstop is such a great thing. Having an opportunity to stretch the legs is a welcome break from sitting in a chair for 10-12 hours straight.

@VanillaMacaron551

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And Changi is a nice airport.

@frglee

2 жыл бұрын

I remember the list of warnings if we took the opportunity to stretch our legs at Singapore during refueling back in the 80s. Long hair, chewing gum, drugs, toilet flushing, litter, drunkeness etc. Additionally, we landed during 'National Cleanliness Week' whatever that meant.

First fligths in 1988-1990 were 2 stops ones : London-Bombay-Singapore-Sydney. I remember a 1995 fight back to europe with a stop in Barhein, but mostly usual stops were Singapore (or Bangkok). For my last flight in 2016 we stooped in Dubai, sadly.

There was the QF 31/32 Sydney-Singapore-London & London-Singapore-Sydney, QF 9/10 Melbourne-Singapore-London & return, QF 29/30 Melbourne-Hong Kong-London & return, QF 5/6 Sydney-Singapore-Frankfurt & return … I have used these flight sectors in the past… and the QF 1/2 Sydney-Bangkok-London & return. Also British Airways used to link London via Singapore to Sydney / Melbourne even BA 11/12 & BA 15/16 (I believe).

I’ve flown this route before and I absolutely love the stopover in Singapore. I always take a few days in Singapore to explore so it’s very handy. I hope QANTAS keep using Singapore, it’s a fantastic airport as well.

Back in the mid 80,s we flew on a QF 747 via Bahrain to London. On approach to Bahrain the Captain warned that due to a malfunctioning screen wiper if we hit a rain storm we might have to go around . We landed okay and as we were sitting in the terminal in transit we were looking out through floor to ceiling glass at our aircraft when up pops a cherry picker with a pilot in it, he manoeuvred over to the cockpit and signalled for the captain to flick a switch and then produced a broom and pushed the screen wiper. It started working so he gave the thumbs up sign and went back down again . Thankfully this high tech problem solver enabled us to continued on to London safely !

I flew back to Melbourne via Singapore right at the end of the London Olympics. Another Qantas flight flew in for Europe bound for Sydney, and there was some interchange of passengers. So Sally Pearson & her gold medal in hurdles changed in transit for the Qantas Sydney flight. The old Northwest Airlines had an extreme version. 5 flights from Seattle, San Francisco etc. would all land in Tokyo at about the same time. They would go onward to Seoul, Hong Hong and other Asian destinations. This was when the US still had post-war control of Japanese air rights. Those 5 flights would swap passengers. So Singapore has served as a passenger swapping point.

We did London-Perth in 2020 - great flight, great service.

The reason for choosing Singapore is Qantas is obsessed with the place. It's a nice stopover city, but there is already (during normal times) a huge over supply of flights between Australia and Singapore on numerous carriers. It would make more sense to offer more services via Bangkok, Hong Kong and perhaps even Kuala Lumpur. Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur are under served from Australia, particularly from cities other than Sydney and Melbourne. Anyone who wants to visit Singapore or use it as a base for onward travel flies Singapore Airlines anyway, especially as Qantas is now able to fly to London (and soon other European cities) non-stop from Australia (from Perth/Darwin and in the future from Sydney/Melbourne as well).

Singapore is some kind of hub for the Southeast Asian region for accessing Australia. Lots of flights from Indonesia go to Singapore and passengers continue to Australia rather than a direct flight from Denpasar.

@therock8224

2 жыл бұрын

That makes little sense with so many flights from Denpasar/Bali direct to Australia. Backtracking through Singapore is a huge waste of time. In fact, some services such as Virgin Australia's Denpasar-Port Hedland flight is only a short 90 minute hop away, shorter than Bali-Singapore! Additionally, the only international flight ever offered out of Port Hedland is this one to Bali, mainly to serve miners/FIFO workers going on R&R. Indirectly, it also functions as a minor transit stop for FIFO workers heading to other Asian destinations such as Thailand, Singapore, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Tokyo etc. who can save time flying via Bali as opposed to flying down to Perth first.

London to Sydney twice but with Singapore airlines so you can guess where they stopped. Londond to Perth twice with Thia so you can guess where they stopped. Never just a few hours in a transit lounge, a 2 or 3 night stop to explore Singapore and Bangkok. Hong Kong and KL on the way back, same story, 2 or 3 nights to explore the cities. Looking forward to the London-Perth non-stop once the pandemic is over and Aus properly opens their borders.

I flew on the London to Sydney via Bangkok route years ago back in 2010 on a B744 and it was a very welcome 2 hours worth of stretching the legs and refreshing when we stopped. It would’ve been tough to go straight through I think although having made the Dubai to Auckland flight with Emirates on the A380 which was just over 16hrs, I was surprised how comfortable it was as the A380 has a quite spacious cabin. I’m sure when the time comes, with Qantas’ research into passenger comfort/wellbeing for this length of flight and there is a specially modified aircraft for it, this non-stop service will be successful

Just a few years ago in 2017, before covid, QF1 used to route Sydney - Dubai - London using an A380-800..

Hopefully to see Qantas Airways return flights to Singapore 🇸🇬 soon

@mattrodger7097

2 жыл бұрын

They are flying to Singapore from Melbourne and Sydney but no onwards flights to London. From next month there will be Brisbane to Singapore flights.

I have flown this route but not in one day. I stayed in Singapore for a few days to enjoy the city before continuing the flight.

Ah yes…..but for those of us who have the good fortune to not live in Melbourne or Sydney, (In my case Brisbane), we get the option of flying to Singapore on a separate QF flight , usually an A330, which arrives in time to allow a couple of hours wait for the plane from Melbourne or Sydney. Singapore offers an excellent in airport hotel which you can book for blocks of hours and have a shower or bath or swim, before boarding the onward flight. This is 100% more agreeable than the usual hour or so mingling with the masses in (the always hot) Changi airport. This “arrangement” is way more pleasant than the one single through flight, forget flight time, it’s comfort that matters.

@VanillaMacaron551

2 жыл бұрын

here, here. (From Brisbane.)

@petermcgrath9008

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I refuse to fly QANTAS out of Brisbane, because it so often expects BNE passengers to go to SYD or MEL for onward travel. Most recent trip with Singapore Airlines via Changi was ok, but Changi is not quite as efficient as previously. Did two trips with Emirates via Dubai (mainly to get into Europe in the evening)....never again. Awful airport. (Looks flash, but appalling delays).

Once the onboard experience gets comfortable enough, like sleeper trains of old, then the distance becomes less and less important. The combination of Sydney curfews and Dubai timezones makes Dubai a horrible option for interrupting sleep and jet lag, even for the shortest of stopovers. Whereas Singapore never has that sleep interruption effect, it does have an incredibly annoying element of requiring an entire security check even if walking out and back into the same gate. This alone is enough reason to desire non-stop. It might be a hard sell in Economy, but in Business or First (with true flat beds) it's really the preferred option. Get on, get comfy, and get off at your destination.

I flew the kangaroo route on Qantas QF1/2. When it stopped in DXB DUBAI. I really enjoyed the multiple journeys I have made on the Kangaroo Route. I flew in Business Class hence the comfortable flight. I will be doing it again via DRW DARWIN in April 2022. Can't wait.

Pre covid I used to fly from the Gold Coast to Sydney to fly the QF1/2 flight at least once a year. Planning to start again in 2023. I missed going through Singapore when they went through Dubai for a couple of years. Was very happy when they went back. Personally, I think I prefer the A380A to the 787 for a long haul such as this,

In the 1980's Qantas 747-200's stopped twice between Sydney and London. I remember Singapore & Dubai and Peeth & Bombay variants

One of the reasons Qantas uses SIN as the stop for QF1/2 might also be the fact that Jetstar Asia, the Asian arm of the Jetstar group, is based here. It allows for Qantas passengers to connect seamlessly to shuttle flights to smaller leisure destinations

@grahambaker6664

2 жыл бұрын

Another reason is QANTAS and BA used it as a hub to and from the smaller cities. I used to fly PER-SIN on an A330 then change to the 747-400 later A380 that originated in Sydney. The Adelaide A330 and a Jetstar A320 from Darwin, as a QF codeshare, coordinated with the Melbourne to London service. It gave the airline the chance to keep the load factor high by replacing the passengers departing at Singapore and circumvented the lack of rights to sell SIN-LHR (QF) or SIN-SYD (BA). I think they did a similar arrangement at BKK using Brisbane passengers as I flew out of Brisbane and had two hours at Bangkok before a QF 747-400 to LHR and the return was codeshared with BA on a 777 with 2.5 hours at BKK before a QF A330 to Brisbane. Again I think both airlines had no rights to issue tickets originating in Thailand unless it was to their home country.

@boeing747686

2 жыл бұрын

@@grahambaker6664 aye qantas deployed their scissor hub in Singapore very well, using flights from the major aussie cities to connect everyone onward to london. They also made good use of codesharing with emirates, BA, JQ and Jetstar Asia.

@grahambaker6664

2 жыл бұрын

@@boeing747686 If I recall correctly you were unable to have a stopover if you were on QANTAS but could on Singapore Airlines at least in the early days. Mind you I remember my first QANTAS flight was Sydney-Darwin-Singapore-Bombay-Bahrain-Rome-London on the 707 and took about 38 hours.

I haven't flown the Sydney route, but I have flown the QF9 / 10 route to Melbourne, back in 2016 on an A380 via Dubia, and an excellent flight it was. Top marks to qantas IMHO.

They changed the kangaroo route to fly through Dubai for a few years as they signed a code sharing agreenment with Emirates. I went to England to visit family in the middle of the change over. I flew through Singapore on the way to London then on the return journey stopped in Dubai.

Done it loads of times. The first time was in 1975 when it made 5 stops between Sydney and London. Singapore is much nicer than Dubai for a stop. But I would rather have BKK back.

I stopped considering Qantas as an option between London and Sydney when they changed to the Dubai route. The flight times sucked - leaving London late in the evening and only 6 hours to DXB put me in a noisy, packed business class lounge at a time when my body wanted to sleep. Glad the SIN route is back, I miss flying QF.

I recall the first time Quantas flew nonstop London to Sydney, something like 20 or 21 hours, and I suspected at the time that there were few to no passengers (and little to no cargo) to make that happen. Still, it was a joy to hear about the flight.

@magical_catgirl

2 жыл бұрын

Qantas has done London-Sydney nonstop twice. They were both delivery flights. The first 747-400, which topped up fuel on the runway before departing to the point of overflowing the tanks and only had the flight crew on board, and a 787-9 running a "test flight" for Project Sunrise. That had around 30 people on board.

Yes, I have flown with Qantas A380 London-Singapore-Sydney. But your video does not explain why Singapore, and why not Bangkok for example. Is Singapore cheaper? Is Singapore more direct and a better route? Is Singapore more reliable?

@jessekuijpers470

2 жыл бұрын

It did say. Its popular for Qantas. It has a better infrastructure (lounges etc) its Qantas’s busiest offshore airport

@paulsz6194

2 жыл бұрын

Singapore is also the gateway to S.E Asia, from the there flying to Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam and the Philippines is all within 2.5hrs, with the Phillipines being the furthest destination.

@ScottishAustralian

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessekuijpers470 in fairness though, most of those things (e.g. their level of infrastructure at the airport etc), are a direct consequence of the fact that they have chosen to operate their LHR flights via SIN for so many years. The vid doesn't really explain why Singapore was actually chosen for this infrastructure to be developed compared to other hubs in the region so I think the OP has a point.

@AUmarcus

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it did. Singapore is popular with the customer base.

@ScottishAustralian

2 жыл бұрын

@@AUmarcus that explanation only works if all the other possible stopover points are unpopular with the customer base - which they are not. There was not an explanation of why this destination specifically was a more popular option (for the airline or for the customer base) than any of the others.

Just recently flew this route, and the stop in SIN was ideal, especially travelling with a family. We could get off and have a walk, get changed and be better prep for the longer leg.

i took this flight Sin-LHR via Qantas. Fantastic. the airline is top notch. I would recommend it anytime.

Great Vid!👍

That's the same for British Airways when I ride BA12 and BA15. Following the same route as Quantas QF1 & QF2.

Hello simple flying Can u pliz update us on the ongoing Storm Eunice causing disruptions in UK.Thanx alot

Singapore 🇸🇬 has the Best International Airport and is the Best Alternative Tourist destination even now with the Covid Pandemic situation that Allows Fully Vaccinated Travel Flights.

Flown this route a few times, both via Singapore and dubai

I have in the past in 2004 on the 747-400. QF31 SYD-SIN-LHR (VH-OJO) and QF2 LHR-BKK(Don Muang)-SYD (VH-OJR)

I did it with a stopover in Dubai a few years ago. With the A380 it is long but not to long.

I flew this route quite a few times and I found it to be a torture on economy class. I have not choose any airline who would offer a straight flight on such a long route.

I first use London-Singapore-Sydney in 2001 on Qantas 747-400, it was a great experience back then. Then I did same route in 2009 with Airbus 380 unfortunately never did B7879 wish I did. I find Qantas a fantastic airline and I went back to Australia with British airways 777-300ER! In 2017 I believe Qantas alway my favourite airline to go to Australia👍👍

BA also uses Singapore as a stopover point between London and some destinations in Australia. Or at least they used to pre-Covid

@ashleyw1393

2 жыл бұрын

A destination in Australia, namely Sydney. They restart this in either March or April 2022 flying a 787.

@raymasraymas

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashleyw1393 Right. I had Melbourne and Sydney stuck in my head for some reason, but couldn’t remember clearly

@ashleyw1393

2 жыл бұрын

@@raymasraymas they stopped flying to Melbourne in the late 90’s. Think they also stopped Brisbane and Perth around the same time. If I recall right it was when BA and Qantas got into the route sharing agreement. Sydney has been their only destination for a number of years now.

Just did QF1 and QF2 on the A380. Good service by Qantas. And the A380 is so comfy on takeover and landing.

My 1st QF flight was from LHR to BKK on 1998.

Apparently they forgot that I flew via Dubai between 2013 and 2018 for reasons of association with Emirates. and the connection with Singapore goes back to the periods when they were a British colony.

Wasnt there a stage QF 1/2 was moved to Dubai? I've only done the Kangaroo route with Qantas on QF 11 when it was Melbourne-Dubai-London (did a 26h stopover in Dubai)

i'm hoping to fly this later this year, buit i'm planning on the Perth (or dawin) london non stop

I flew from London to Sydney in March 2018 we stopped at Dubai on the way out, the return stopped at Singapore.

@lundimardi1975

2 жыл бұрын

The days of the Flying Camel are over. Personally, I prefer Changi.

Between Changi and Dubai airport, I believe most economy class passengers would prefer Changi. Dubai T3 is like a bus interchange, crowded and almost impossible to find a comfortable and quiet place to rest in between flights. Not very pleasant when your transit stop arrives in Dubai at 2am!

There was a time when the Kangaroo route was more like a milk run than a super one-stop hop-on, hop-off event. I've flown Australia/Heathrow by a number of routes, visiting 9or flying over) some weird and wonderful countries. Flying the route at one time or the other with Qantas and BA I've landed in Hong Kong, Bangkok, Singapore, New Delhi, Beirut, Tel Aviv, Frankfurt Main, and finally - London Heathrow. Memorable events? * Sitting on a Taxiway in Beirut while Syrian and Israeli warplanes fought it out overhead, and perimeter AA guns were tracking some of the planes (dunno which ones). * Landing in Tel Aviv just after the Lod Massacre, out on the tarmac, while a truck brought out a set of air stairs, accompanied by a Jeep (or similar) with a pintle mounted machine gun. We were boarded by Israeli soldiers who stood in the doorways with sub-machine guns loaded and cocked (I had the middle door seat so could see exactly what was going on - I was about 3 feet from the open bolt of the gun, with a view into the magazine! - our squaddie was a Sergeant). The military were followed by apparent civilians, complete with trench coats(!), and while all this was happening, we were told that if we had any bags that weren't in overhead lockers, be ready to be searched by Israeli security. The whole affair ended happily, with the half dozen departing pax being ushered down the airstairs, and searched by the military might deployed around the plane before they all went off like great buddies. * Flying relatively close to Mount Everest (it was in the distance) with a 3rd engine hanging from the wing of our 747 - going out to rescue the England cricket team that was stranded in India (That must have been BA) * flying into Hong Kong (for the first time ever - for me) in a raging tropical storm, and seeing all these buildings just off the end of the wing as we swung round over the bay, then coming lower, and lower, and lower, until we (finally) touched down on the runway.

@SimpleFlyingNews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing these events John, it sounds like you have some great memories! ✈️ - LR

I’ve travelled between the UK & Australia by every conceivable route on pretty much every available airline, including Royal Brunei with their 5 stops in all sorts of weird & wonderful locations & the long way around via Canada & Hawaii. London-Singapore-Sydney is by far the best route, closely followed by the Bangkok stop. Dubai was terrible & was equally despised by both passengers & crew.

@therock8224

2 жыл бұрын

Why was Dubai despised, other than the long travel time between Sydney and Dubai?

@grahamnancledra7036

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus! Royal Brunei - flew them - First Class. "would you like Red Sparking Grape Juice with your meal or White Sparkling Grape Juice". I told them to forget it.

There are worse airports to have a short layover than Changi. You know, like very other airport in the world.

Even Garuda's London flight used to stop at SG

I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Why is the Qantas in the thumbnail backwards?

I'm hoping to fly the Kangaroo route next year on the A380 :)

QF32... the one thing i nvr forgot

Very often travelled on the other kangaroo route, QF9 and QF10, Melbourne/London. However, if your final destination is not London, as is my case, the rise of the gulf airlines has greatly reduced the attractiveness of this route. I now fly Qatar which regularly gets me to a final destination in Europe in well under 24 hours with one stop in the gulf. The relief of avoiding LHR and a short hop on BA makes the trip almost enjoyable now (not to mention lower fares and greater comfort in economy.) Singapore Changi also served as a hub for Qantas: flights from all the major Australian cities would converge at around the same time with passengers transferring to the long-haul sectors on 747s or 380s, a mad scramble. Not so much now with Perth serving as the stop for QF9/10.

@MidnightPodcastGaming

10 ай бұрын

WHAT ON BLOODY EARTH does The Gulf of Mexico have to do with anything involving Australia to UK man? LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

You forgot to mention the Sydney Perth London flights which the Sydney Darwin London flights replaced and the 787 permitted. I was surprised that the obvious reason for Singapore wasn't mentioned; it's a hub airport for One World Airlines, so flying via Singapore makes sense to fill seats with people who aren't flying the full Sydney to London distance. Sadly I've never flown Qantas to London. A few years ago, I flew Qantas to Singapore then Malaysia to KL and London. The Qantas leg was an A330.

@magical_catgirl

2 жыл бұрын

The Perth flights don't go from Sydney, QF9/10 is Melbourne-Perth-London, though currently via Darwin due to the WA border being closed. The Sydney-Singapore-London, QF1/2, is currently going via Darwin due to the transit testing requirements at Singapore. Singapore isn't a oneworld hub. Singapore Airlines is in Star Alliance. The oneworld Asian hubs are Tokyo, Hong Kong and Kuala Lumpur.

@theharper1

2 жыл бұрын

@@magical_catgirl interesting. I knew that the London flights were via Darwin due to WA covid restrictions but didn't know that they originated in Melbourne. Nevertheless you could fly Sydney to Perth (or Darwin) and change to the London flight. Singapore Airlines may not be in One World but many One World airlines fly into Singapore. Singapore is a hub airport and that's all I meant.

@magical_catgirl

2 жыл бұрын

@@theharper1 Only half of oneworlds members fly to Singapore, and other then Qantas and BA (which also flies to a Qantas hub), those members only fly to their own home bases. Those flights also aren't well timed for connecting between members like they would be at a hub. Shanghai and Frankfurt, also (like Singapore) not oneworld hubs, get more oneworld service then Singapore does. Singapore, Shanghai and Frankfurt are, at best, oneworld focus cities, not hubs.

@theharper1

2 жыл бұрын

@@magical_catgirl you seem to have ignored what I said in clarification. Singapore is a hub for all manner of things. That's why it's rich. Whether flights align is irrelevant if you make a stopover, and frankly Sydney to London is too far without one unless you can afford business class.

the a380 from london to sydney via singapore the 787 from london to sydney which one is best?

Originally Qantas used flying boats which made nine stops to travel to England! They didn't fly at night so they had to stop overnight.

Interesting video

we did the trip in august it was not that bad having a stop and stretch ya legs in Singapore both ways .However my wife would rather have a stopover in Singapore each way to break the trip up 23 odd hours is a long time :)

Would the 350 ulr be viable here like sin lax?

Not really sure why Qantas stopped flying through BKK .. I would love to stop there for a few days each way. I love to stop in Singapore as well and watch the faces of the barely alive passengers that are attempting to make the full journey to London in one go. I did the Dubai stop but once was enough.. I would prefer to go to BKK or Singapore any time.

Qantas has recently been using its A330-300 aircraft for flights from BNE to LAX.

@mattrodger7097

2 жыл бұрын

Isn’t it the A330-200?

@paulsz6194

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattrodger7097 Could be, I presumed it would be the larger variant.

Qantas used to fly Perth - Singapore - Rome, Qantas “married” Emirates for a few years, resulted Singaporean unable to fly London & Singapore on QF, instead the flight was Sydney - Dubai - London for about 5 years, and again back to Singapore.

Flew the Kangaroo route in 1980. Sydney Singapore Bahrain London Heathrow.

Why they dont go over the atlantic? It looks nearer

Qantas should do more flights to Europe. Perth-Berlin/Paris and Sydney/Melbourne-Singapore-Berlin next

@paulsz6194

2 жыл бұрын

But as great of a city Berlin may be, its Frankfurt that is the real gateway airport on continental Europe. Most carriers from continental Europe focus their airlines towards Frankfurt Am-Main, and most destinations within continental Europe are within 2hrs flying.

@mattrodger7097

2 жыл бұрын

They are doing Perth to Rome from June to September. Would be good if they Perth to Paris or Frankfurt

@spdfatomicstructure

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulsz6194 it would be great for Qantas to maintain connectivity with the big EU capitals, particularly as London is no longer one. I would reckon that Singapore-Berlin direct would be a great complement to the existing Singapore-Frankfurt and Singapore-Munich routes run by Singapore Airlines and Lufthansa. Perhaps the Perth flights could fly into Frankfurt and allow passengers to connect with DB high-speed trains to Berlin instead, but that's just about it

@paulsz6194

2 жыл бұрын

@@spdfatomicstructure London is still a major travel destination for Australians ( and from other countries alike) , due to its history and it’s still a major player in the financial markets. But I totally agree with you that a destination Like Frankfurt, Paris, Amsterdam perhaps Even Rome would be a great way to promote Australia to the Europeans, not just to make it more of a convenient trip for Australians into Europe. By the way, Qantas already has codeshare agreements with KLM/ Air France, and not forgetting Finnair is One World partner.

@spdfatomicstructure

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattrodger7097 I'm aware that Qantas is doing flights direct from Perth to Rome and London. Berlin would be a great addition to the portfolio seeing that Willy Brandt Airport has very few intercontinental flights

Cool

@adamrameli1990

2 жыл бұрын

Yourwelcome

They use the 787 now doing Sydney Darwin London

l flew BA to Mel with stopover singapore on return was Qantas stopover again singapore but yet had flown a330 domestic just would wonder as know they have varies flight of like singapore bangkok hong kong etc

not the EGLL-YSSY but EDDF-YSSY (and once EDDF-WSSS-> Australian Airlines WSSS-YPDN)

In 2013 Qantas A380 Flight from Sydney kingsfordsmith Australia to London Heathrow UK Make a stoppover in Dubai internasional airport in United Arab Emirates.

@lundimardi1975

2 жыл бұрын

I have to say I prefer the SIN stopover - it's such an amazing airport.

Qantas flies both the Boeing 787-9 and the Airbus A330-200 on the Brisbane - LAX Route

At about 23 1/2 hrs flying 'east' from SYD, why not fly to LHR via YVR and see the beautiful Canadian Rockies. It would also be an interesting round-the-world flight....SYD-YVR-LHR-SIN-SYD. I agree that a break is wise from a health perspective. Deep Vein Thrombosis can result in death.

Interesting

Before corona Qantas flew Perth - London direct.

I have flown London to Sydney via Singapore on British Airways.

What about Melbourne London?

The A330-200 has longer range than the -300s. The -200 has center tank, the -300s don’t. I used to fly the -300s.

Singapore is a welcome and beautiful stop. Nice to get off and stretchy legs. I'm NOT the kind to take the new upcoming non stop 19hr flight direct, sitting in the same sitting position, so I take the flight that stops in Singapore. Qantas good Airline as is Singapore Airlines, thank god its not BA!

Sydney, Darwin, London now!!

Fuel and crew was my guess

Looks like you have a problem with numbers. You list the range of a Boeing 787 as 13, 621 Km. But you forgot to check that number. You see Qantas has been flying the 787 from Perth to London non stop whish is 14, 498 Km.

@set3777

2 жыл бұрын

13, 621 Km. range listed is for the B787-8. But Qantas flys the B787-9 which has a longer range.of 14,800 to 15,750 km depending on the number of passengers (from 250 to 290).

doesn’t qantas have a a350?

I’ve only flown Manchester/Sydney via Abu Dhabi with Etihad.

Made me think they stopped the partnership with Emirates when they moved it to SIN

I hope they consider the 777X.

@fjp3305

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking

I have flown this route many times (the first time in an old 747-400), and believe me when I say that flying from Sydney to London (or Europe) is not something you'd want to do in economy. Notwithstanding the pandemic, flying to the UK/Europe from Sydney is better done far less frequently (every 3 or so years) to enable time to save extra money for a business class seat. Going that distance in economy is soul destroyingly uncomfortable 🤣

I like Syd to Frankfurt and sorry to see that axed. Syd to Rome I reckon should be permanent not seasonal.

Because Qantas is a Singaporean airline. When you add Jetstar Asia and AirAsia operations, SIN is Qantas group biggest hub.

@gelinrefira

2 жыл бұрын

LOL well said.

Flew Qantas LHR to SYD through SIN in 2007 on a 777. These days I'd rather 3x7 hr flights through Abu Dhabi. The 14 hr flight is a killer on the way home especially in economy.

@ashleyw1393

2 жыл бұрын

Qantas hasn’t ever operated 777’s so that’s not possible. Sure you don’t mean 747?

I Flew from Zambia to Sydney. I almost died. How do people survive traveling to Australia? Cause flying to Dubai from lusaka is 7hrs plus 13hrs to Sydney. Chile...

I personally have not flown this route, but I have flown many trips that average 28-30 hours end to end. So why did you have to spoil the video showing the 787 NightMare Liner, emphasis on the Airbus a350-1000 would have made it great.

As a European expatriate I did the London/Sydney route or Paris/Sydney many times. Game changer was use of A380 instead of B747 for the 22 or 23 hours flight. More confortable than the later, specially in business class the flight was….very exhausting due to nose and jet lag. Sure that a direct flight London/Sydney would be extenuating.

A350-900 ULR.

Soon they will fly this as a codeshare with Air India via Delhi