Completely correct - and critical thinking skills and ethics and morals have been kicked out of the windows!!

@newjerseyselfdefense6199

6 ай бұрын

Completely incorrect. Old folks are calcified dinosaurs with extremely limited information.

@JeansiByxan

6 ай бұрын

Wow, yet another completely objective and insightful comment from the younger generation. 😂

@JeansiByxan

6 ай бұрын

This is true. I used to study Human Rights at Uni, till I realized my classmates had never been given brains apparently. I had to drop out because it was like trying to climb Mt. Everest when you tried to push back against the ignorance of students and teachers alike. And no course was required in Ethics. Not one. One would think ethics is importinf when talking about HR but not so. Toeing the Chinese agenda was on the other hand. The U.N. is so corrupt at this point it needs to be overhauled to have any chance at redeeming itself.

@johnhoran9840

6 ай бұрын

You know "WHAT" to think, we know HOW to think.@@newjerseyselfdefense6199

@shelleyhayton9251

6 ай бұрын

@@JeansiByxanexactly!!!

I teach history and many students come to class with all the right answers they learned from social media. If you challenge their views they cry and mom is on the phone. They also try to get you cancelled by alleging racism, sexism etc., and the system believes them The common theme is anyone who has authority is wrong

@francescaerreia8859

6 ай бұрын

I had a philosophy course that covered cultural Marxism and the teacher taught us arguments to the effect that the oppressor oppressed paradigm can apply to teacher and students just as well as it can to upper and lower class. According to these Marxist influenced thinkers, teachers really are oppressive, and instead of lecturing as if they know more they should be inviting discussion and creating an environment for mutual learning where students teach as much as the teachers.

@jakeg3126

6 ай бұрын

@@francescaerreia8859did you go to college in Eastern PA? I know an adjunct professor that fits that description?

@francescaerreia8859

6 ай бұрын

@@jakeg3126 no. And I mean, I didn’t really describe the prof much at all anyway. I’m sure there are tons of them out there teaching these ideas and they should be; they’re important whether true or false.

@banta-pd8zj

6 ай бұрын

It seems to me that some people, such as yourselves, have not the slightest ability to apply the slightest critical thought whatsoever. Especially when faced with the sort of privileged nonsense used to excuse extreme selfishness displayed on channels like this one.

@aliensoup2420

6 ай бұрын

@@francescaerreia8859 Reminds me of a broadcast from Rush Limbaugh I heard 20+ years ago... He was berating the sentiment of respecting student protests. He said, "Why should we listen to the students? They don't know anything - that's why they are students!" Students should be listening and asking questions - not lecturing. And certainly not holding society for ransom whenever they feel challenged.

The youngsters, say 18 to 30, have not lived through the years of the IRA and ETA bombing, yasser arafat and his reign of terror, the red brigade, the hi jacking of international flights, the slaying of olympic team members etc. That is what i lived through at that age. My mother lived through the bombing of Guernika, London and Liverpool. Our classrooms were not politicised, our universities sought to widen our thinking through debate, not through grooming. I hope the voting age is never lowered any further after seeing the scenes at universities in the west. And as for Amsterdam University, the young jewish undergraduate should have been presented the degree in the large hall and the rest thrown out without graduating. The Netherlands a country open to all religions going back to pre 1600s, famous for its tolerance. I was Ashamed to be Dutch.

@shelleyhayton9251

6 ай бұрын

Hear! Hear - thank you!!!

@ac1646

6 ай бұрын

Yes. I made a similar comment in another video. Most have not had the misfortune to live in a time of 'domestic' terrorism. 😑

@Esp142

6 ай бұрын

I'm ashamed too because my government representative in the moment is clearly and shamelessly in favour of hamas .. there's already people throwing stones in jewish yards here ...

@econ6610

6 ай бұрын

You forgot to mention irgun, hagannah and their predecessor IDF :) all terro--rists organizations

@wandering_not_lost

6 ай бұрын

Please remember that Israel is a country founded by terrorism and that many of it's first leaders were terrorists.

Half of them are there for a tic tok opportunity with no idea why they are there at all. It’s just the next bandwagon to tag along with.

@nwuk1983

6 ай бұрын

They interviewed them at a march, so how do u justify the recent killing by hamas? Do u think they should release the hostages being held right now? What do u think of the aid money n supplies turned into weapons. Every question they were, well erm i didnt know about that, whos hamas?! Well like i just wanted to like feel like totally smug and like u giving me facts like is harshing my like smugbuzz, yay me im good if i scream loud enough

@eduwino151

6 ай бұрын

90% of them this a fad to stick it to the man before they eventually grow up @@nwuk1983

@ArcherInTraining2

3 ай бұрын

​@@nwuk1983 you are talking about 3 ducks from the flock and calling that the flock... Yes so many of my peers do not know fully understand the history of Palestine and Israel but THE REASON we all stand with Palestine isn't because of the history or because we have been brainwashed to hate Israel (because most of us don't) but we stand with them because people who are not involved in the conflict, innocent civilians who just live there should not be dying. Our generation has decided to break the cycle our ancestors created and that is something so many of you seem to not just accept but you guys love and celebrate the crimes against humanity and constantly find ways to justify it, when instead we could all be working to find middle ground so people can live peacefully.

@JL_Lux

3 ай бұрын

Or maybe listen to them and learn. They have a different opinion and your too dumb to listen

@vacanlient

3 ай бұрын

@@ArcherInTraining2honey, you can not write a coherent sentence, but you have strong opinions. What is written on internet stays there. One of these days, hopefully, you will learn facts and logical reasoning and you will be terribly ashamed of nonsense you wrote. Don’t destroy your future because winter-spring 2023-24 you thought keffiyeh was a right fashion statement and it was fun to riot in the middle of the work week yelling rhymes you never really understood…

Question: Why do Young People support Palestine? Answer: Because history isn’t a compulsory school subject therefore there’s an absence of 2000 years of history and so, as George Santayana said, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” and that’s why we’re seeing what’s happening now in Gaza. If you’re a 25yo then it’s pointless to believe your personal knowledge of the last 20yrs is the same as the history of the last 2000 years. You can’t just drum up history out of the imaginings of your mind and make it whatever you want it to be!

@mmr2840

6 ай бұрын

One cant be sure of yesterday's news, let alone the narratives, myths and fables of religious books! Besides, victors write history, what about the conquered?! Who is right? Who us wrong?

@mrharpable

6 ай бұрын

There’s a reason the Levant and north Africa speak Arabic

@peterwebb8732

6 ай бұрын

@@mmr2840That’s a cop-out. The 20th Century history of that area of the Middle-East is both most relevant and very well documented for anyone willing to take a dispassionate view.

@mmr2840

6 ай бұрын

@@peterwebb8732 that's equivocal! What documents you are talking about if iraq was destroyed based on purpotedly documented information that turned out fake?

@peterwebb8732

6 ай бұрын

@@mmr2840 Are you trying to claim that the Ottoman Empire was a “fake”? Or WW1. Or the UN Mandates for British and French Palestine? Or WW2 Or the Holocaust? Or the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, The 1967 War, the Yom Kippur War, the Camp David negotiations? We’re not exactly talking about “something Saddam’s Generals said Saddam said….” here.

You know that idiocracy has reached new levels when LGBT allies sympathize with radical Islamist groups.

@steiner554

6 ай бұрын

That's the left for you. In the west they bowed to every muslim whim and now have shown their Jew hating faces.

@toddsmith5715

6 ай бұрын

Indeed. We're living in a very strange world these days.

@SARWSiddiqui

6 ай бұрын

Because they know that unless the right to life is respected all other rights are meaningless.

@azjoe_6310

6 ай бұрын

Truth! Their heads would roll in the streets of any Islam nation. Darwinism at it's finest.

@MuyassarMostafa

6 ай бұрын

I find your comment a bit mean because sympathy for someone does not mean that you must agree with that person on all ideologies. but what I can answer in this video is that the younger generation has greater access to information faster compared to how it was before, in addition to freedom in choosing media outlets compared to the previous generation, this generation is based on ethical standards that it constantly defends, and it is also possible and easy to detect lies and expose the mainstream media outlets if they try to manipulate the facts as it was easy-to-use before.

I'm young and I find the reflexive support for Palestine disturbing. Admittedly, I am no scholar of the Israel-Palestine issue, but after attempting a month-long immersion to hear both sides fairly, I cannot comprehend the anti-Israel sentiment. My sympathies do tilt towards Israel. I still have yet to hear a supporter of Palestine speak in a non-aggressive and intellectually consistent manner.

@landofthesilverpath5823

6 ай бұрын

It's because brown and black people aren't made to feel guilt over the Holocaust like all white people are. The younger generation is less white.

@benthornhill7903

6 ай бұрын

I don't support either side but I can absolutely see that this is a complete mess left to these people by the British Empire and sustained by the US. The Palestinians have been dispossessed, placed under apartheid and are now gradually being pushed into smaller and smaller areas of Palestine by the aggressive Zionism of the present administration. I mean, it seems obvious to me that the Israeli government want full sovereignty over the entire territory and for that territory only to be ruled by Jewish people. Any Palestinians who accept that fate will be second class citizens under Jewish domination. I don't see any inconsistency in that.

@nefaristo

6 ай бұрын

​@@XvonPocalypseshe says she went through a month long immersion etc etc, and, by chance, so did I, and I've changed my mind on different subtopics (and I'm not young, I was just misinformed). So... See you in a month maybe? ?😏 I tell you in advance: it's kind of a hard work. It's complicated.

@brianleap5830

6 ай бұрын

I'm pretty much against both sides. Israel, while portraying themselves as a blameless victim, has maintained an indirect occupation of Gaza and the West Bank and an apartheid system where Israelis are privileged. They largely control movement to and from the territories and the Palestinian's access to resources which limits economic development keeping the Palestinians impoverished. I've read that they even control the water available to Palestinians. Israel reacts to attacks with bombing campaigns which nearly always hit civilians and demolishes civilian dwellings and infrastructure. Israel has continued to promote settlements which seize land from Palestinian territories further decreasing the land available to the Palestinian people and stifling their opportunity to prosper. Effectively Israel is keeping Palestinian territories under a permanent state of siege in ghettos writ large. If I were looking to slowly force an "undesirable" populace to abandon their place of birth or to slowly eliminate them, I'd probably do what Israel is doing. Hamas of course isn't any better and they are more obviously horrific. While I don't like Hamas's tactics, they are fighting a militarily superior foe and are hitting soft targets where they can more easily do damage. I can see a certain logic to that even as I hate it. However, Hamas isn't fighting for its people or freedom, it's fighting to wipe out Israel/Israelis which is obviously immoral and leaves them without even a shadow of an excuse. Both sides have torpedoed the peace process repeatedly and have no interest in coexistence. However I hold Israel slightly more responsible as they have a decided strategic advantage and have genuinely made agreements in bad faith with more moderate Palestinian representatives and then proceeded to undermine them until the agreements fell apart. Young people have a tendency to support whomever they see as the underdog which seems to look like Palestine even if barely.

@denisgauthier2413

6 ай бұрын

Everything you feel is correct, and I agree 100% with your sentiments about support for Palestinians. The thing that’s been flogging Jews for 2k years is that they killed Jesus and nobody will let them forget it, not even Arabs. Also, remember not all muslims are Arab, and, most if not all Arab states do not want Palestinian refugees. Needless to say this is a very complex issue that is complicated further by PRIDE. And, remember that every single offer of compromise made to the Palestinians has been refused, since 1948! Why? PRIDE! An Arab couldn’t compromise with a Jew.

Sadly with the younger generation there's no longer what's called 'intellectual honesty' because the public educational system has failed completely.

@mmr2840

6 ай бұрын

On the contrary, the curriculum now are very intellectual and subject to reason unlike the old schools that were ment for indoctrination! Young people , though they might look reckless, have a more sense of justice, they analyze and synthesize not hampered by institutionalized thjnking. They are honest and call spades spades!

@natanaelmedina2189

6 ай бұрын

@@mmr2840 as a Gen Z I can say with all the confidence... we're not better than the older generation, just different, and we think we are just better because of it

@natanaelmedina2189

6 ай бұрын

@@mmr2840 in the end, no generation is wiser or more enlightened than the previous just because "we think better, we have better morals, we are less hypocrites" we are radically different because the wealth accumulated throught previous generations affects all of our surroundings and our adaptability to that change is what makes us have different POVs, because neither of each side lived through the others struggles and opportunities...

@mmr2840

6 ай бұрын

@@natanaelmedina2189 you are right, dichotomy is always misleading But it's that the overwhelming plethora of available information nowadsys makes people more knowledgeable, analytical , able to take things with a pinch of salt! Things were not available to my generation( now in my sixties, had little access to books and information)..now I have the leisure and luxury to surf the net after the banks in my country swindled my savings and forced me to give up my gallivanting! ( a blessing in disguise, though I can hardly make ends meet!😀).. Nice talk by the way! Cheers

@Reggie-bunsofsteel-Mcduff1001

6 ай бұрын

​​@@mmr2840woah "your generation had little access to books" what's your name methusela ? What do you think the percentage is of young people that actually read a book , very low I would wager, instant access to something that will confirm already held prejudices is the way nowadays.p

"It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy.” ― George Orwell, 1984

@Gee-xb7rt

6 ай бұрын

oh yeah, Orwell was big on supporting genocides. foul dishonest perverted creep.

@marilena7848

6 ай бұрын

As someone who only recently retired from decades of university teaching, I will only say Orwell's observation is spot on.

@banta-pd8zj

6 ай бұрын

I heard he was a socialist. Outrageous.

@matts3414

6 ай бұрын

I need to read 1984 again

@craigsips8677

6 ай бұрын

You could be talking about either side.

Whilst his point of higher education has validity, I feel the main reason for the generational divide is that the 18-24 age range have grown up with an Israel-Palestinian dynamic where Israel has not only been the dominant power their entire lives, but specifically an Israel that has given up on the peace process after the Intifadas, and therefore have a harder time recognizing & empathizing the shifts in the history of the regional conflict. Once the political left in Israel got decimated and the right took over, the settler-expansionist views overwhelmed much of the policies within the territories to a point where it is increasingly more difficult for outsiders who decontextualize the region to understand the nuances of why certain security policies are in place.

@wishteria234

6 ай бұрын

Hamas is only doing Irans dirty work.

@deathwarmedup73

6 ай бұрын

This makes much more sense than Ferguson's simplistic pandering to the culture wars narrative. (And a good indicator of its value as a comment is that it's on youtube and has been overlooked by just about everyone.)

@daviday87

6 ай бұрын

@@deathwarmedup73I appreciate the backhanded compliment😂😂😂

@johnschuh8616

5 ай бұрын

​@@deathwarmedup73 The Israeli Left want to blame the even on the settler movement. It is of course one reason for the rage of Hamas but the role of radical Islam in this ignored. The soft line taken by the Obama administration, and then the Reversal of the much harder Trump policy, in continuation of the Obama policy, added to the green policies of the Biden Administration, have greatly strengthen the hand of Iran and the radicals in general. As to the peace policy? How long must a policy be pursued before it is accepted not to be practical?

@academyofshem

4 ай бұрын

The reason for the generational divide is that our youth is addicted to social media, and there are over 2 billion-that's billion with a "B"-Muslims complaining about 13 million Jews.

What always disturbs me is that sides are taken, the hatred spews out instead of demanding peace for everyone….

Would it have anything to do with the fact that in the internet age where information is more easily available, people are forming their own opinions and not just believing the establishment media which so often just pumps out propaganda!

@alf-erikritsland1051

24 күн бұрын

Obviously not. You appear to be very lacking in an understanding of human psychology. Lies and propaganda, and also "what people wish to hear", spreads a lot faster than complex truths, f.ex. from a conflict lasting centuries and with far too many details to read up on even during a whole weekend. So utter over-simplifications, spread via TikTok and similar SoMe, catch on instead - and youth are too inexperienced to see it for what it is.

Because it is the right thing to do. With the advent of the internet and smart phones there is enough information out there for people to learn. In the past however we were taught who were the good and bad guys from people like Niall Ferguson. Thank f*k those times are over.

@vacanlient

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 right, everything that humanity achieved until now is nothing. The real thing is what you learn on your phone from TikTok. You will make a great barista one day… 😂😂😂

@mamthav

Ай бұрын

Of course! Everything that happened in History around the world and is still happening is all nonsense! And only you know the truth because of the calculated agenda driven social media posts!!

Its actually far simpler than that. It has nothing to the infiltration of islamists. This younger generation simply seems to sort any conflict by who has the power, and therefore, who is the victim? So in the US, the police have the power, therefore black people are the victims. The white male patriachy has the power in western society so all women and minorities are the victims. Isreal is the more powerful side in this conflict, therefore they must be the opressors, seemingly. The problem seems to be an over simplification along these lines and a complete lack of interest in nuance

@johnschuh8616

5 ай бұрын

A good theory.

@CyberLance26

2 ай бұрын

I think its a mix of that and also that the west is filled with muslims nowadays and i think people are scared of them and scared to make them angry so people feel that they must be on the musims side to not get hurt. Even if people dont want to admit it i think we all know that going against the muslims always create violence and danger.

I feel like i was one of the last people who recieved a genuinely good high school education (graduated 2014). My sister entered high school as i was leaving and is now a raging activist

@BB-nv6dw

6 ай бұрын

People had described suffragettes protests as raging mad women?! 100 years later, what do you think 🤔? where do you think your sister my sister would be now if …..? Today’s protests are tomorrow’s solutions for people’s grievances injustice….

@inkipinki8468

5 ай бұрын

@@BB-nv6dw absolutely!

@academyofshem

4 ай бұрын

@@BB-nv6dw Letting women vote was a huge mistake. Poor example.

@academyofshem

4 ай бұрын

@@RyanHolmanNetwork It's not about politics; it's about religion. Moses vs Mohammud.

@lcg3092

3 ай бұрын

Sorry, but if you think that being an activist is a bad thing, then clearly the educational system has failed you miserably. Good on your sister for wanting to have an impact on the world instead of just sheepishly following along, we need more of her in the world right now...

Yes all insightful points. Education is important, knowing the history of the region, are not taught as well as before in our past generations. Biased teachers are not teaching politics etc objectively as they should or letting students think for themselves. Re educate people.

@thinkercat2836

6 ай бұрын

@@user-ps8fn2gt6y yes much of the population faces same issue from biased mainstream media as well. Revamp institutions too and make them more balanced, to think critically, encourage free speech, hear different views on these issues.

Thank you Dr. Ferguson. One of the core inconsistencies in my mind is why do American Jews continue electing politicians and selecting academic experiences that promulgate this intense hatred? The only "why" I can come up with is to never underestimate the power of a human being to rationalize ANYTHING.

@johnw574

6 ай бұрын

Sometimes the monster you create turns against you.

@peterbellini6102

6 ай бұрын

@@johnw574 I received an observation in another outlet where the idea that there are many "non-Jewish" Jews in America who are so secular that it's relatively easy for them to embrace Leftist ideologies. I think that makes a lot of sense since there were no shortage of these people who fought for Lenin and Stalin.

@johndong7524

6 ай бұрын

@@peterbellini6102 Wrong comparison. The ones who fought for Lenin and Stalin were essentially fighting for their basic human rights because the Jews were severely discriminated against in the tsarist Russia. In fact the Jews were the ones behind the Russian revolution. They were the ones who started it essentially. Most key figures and ideologues in the movement were ethnic Jews who got inspired by Marx. The Jews of today are mere pretenders compared to the real revolutionaries that the Russian Jews were.

@listrahtes

6 ай бұрын

Were right ideology turns violence at first outwards left ideology turns it inwards. Its quite typical that a left ideologist will at first direct his hate into his own surrounding with the intent of purging anyone not in line with his ideology. Add to that the underdog phenomenon which is very strong in leftist ideology . They separate idea and action.

Avi Issacharoff wrote in Yedioth ‏“It is impossible to ignore what has become increasingly one of the greatest political nightmares we have ever known (..) The majority of the world views us, the Israelis, as terrorists, while Yahya Sinwar and his comrades who lead Hamas as freedom fighters are seen as being praised all over the world, including in American and British public opinion, and of course in Arab countries

@marinakoshelev6006

6 ай бұрын

It is a nightmare indeed.

@yolandabrinkman2653

6 ай бұрын

You hear the empty vessels now. However, it is the silent majority who will prevail. The Mills of God grind exceedingly slow, but they grind exceedingly fine.

@mohamedali2858

6 ай бұрын

@@yolandabrinkman2653 it’s seems The Mills of God grind exceedingly slow👇👇 Political analyst at the Hebrew newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth Nahum Bernia: Unfortunately, there is no victory in sight. And Netanyahu’s statements about a war for a long time are a marketing alternative to a non-existent victory. Hamas deceived us for the second time, leaving us a whole day penetrating on two axes, then surprised us, apparently by elite forces, with the bodies of our soldiers on Victory Street, and on the roads. Our forces seem to have two options: withdraw, or humiliated death.

Just recently I emailed my daughter's high school asking whether they teach history lessons and international law these days amids the Israel-Palestine war. My daughter says all kids she knows are pro Palestine. In her own words: "Pro Palestine is a trend". The school has not answered me back, but in a previous email they told me they will deal specifically with antisemitism at school.

@V1489Cygni

6 ай бұрын

It's "the current thing". Not that the support isn't popular among kids caught up on intersectionaIism, but as soon as something else appears they'll move on.

@kbrown5218

6 ай бұрын

Simply disgusting that educators push propaganda.

@Gee-xb7rt

6 ай бұрын

@@kbrown5218 simply disgusting that warmongering boomers are allowed to waste oxygen.

@theadamfriedlandshow4668

6 ай бұрын

Because people are supporting the side here that are without electricity, food etc. Having their hospitals destroyed. I’m sorry your daughter and her friends are young and simply see it as a trend. When Israel’s response is that people are anti-Semitic I laugh because of what they’re doing to the Palestinian people is so so much worse.

@steiner554

6 ай бұрын

They will deal with it by embracing it. But they will do it in such a way it's not direct and not to noticeable. The left is rather clever in that way as most people will not see through their schemes.

What a breath of fresh air from Prof Ferguson in this depraved era that saw friends turning into sleepwalking BBC slogans.

Thank you Dr. Ferguson for telling me I'm young. Really appreciated.

@paulschnyder938

6 ай бұрын

Ignorance is bliss.

It's not difficult. They support who they perceive to be the underdog. Kids want to be jedi, not the empire. They wont get fooled again. Pete Townsend told us that. Every generation learns the hard way.

@Satheesh-Catholic

6 ай бұрын

This is exactly what I wanted to tell, but you have said nicely. Kids always want to be adults. And the easiest way to become that is to defy adults. Generally there’s only one way an adolescent outweigh an adult; it is by assuming moral superiority. The easiest way again to do that is to look more compassionate. Where you can find the easiest candidates so as to outcompete adults in compassion except in the minorities who, the adults know, are a minority for a reason.?!?!! Hence the stupidity of the adolescents of every generation - the Communists of pre-WW2; the hippies of during Vietnam war; and the millennials and Gen Z now. What the youth of every generation doesn’t understand is that the boomers of every generation were the hippies of the prior one…. This is a curse brought upon humanity by Modernism, which destroyed the common sense of looking up, when in need of wisdom, to the elders. Our forefathers wanted to look older, because they had that common sense. But the moderns by wanting to look younger, not only have become a joke to the youth, but also have legitimized every youthful idiocy in the process . . .

@bluegregory6239

6 ай бұрын

Talking 'bout my generation! I was born in 1969 and went to school when American education was still relatively good. Unfortunately, this Gen Z/TikTok generation will continue to get fooled again and again. Being fooled is the definition of a fool.

@pootthatbak2578

6 ай бұрын

Star wars..a propaganda machine? Yes! No doubt. Propaganda can be fun and entertaining..caution: you might walk out of the theater with a perverted sense of virtue

@thedownunderverse

6 ай бұрын

Amazing analogy: kids want to be Jedi, not the Empire. They support the perceived underdog. Except the Israeli’s are the underdog, and will always be.

looks like Bin Laden is becoming the new Che Guevara😅

@Orson2u

6 ай бұрын

BOTH exulted in mass murders.

@fronabulax63

6 ай бұрын

@@Orson2u oh, yt is censoring my answer about the current assault. Looks like we are in China now🤣

Everything this guy said PLUS TikTok.

The best explanation, is that younger people no longer view empire and imperialism as a good thing. I'm Nial Ferguson doesn't see this.

@Davmartin-kp1yq

5 ай бұрын

Yea instead you clowns think. Socialism and communism is good thing 🤣🤣

@koushikdas1992

5 ай бұрын

Does that mean that as a young we have to against islamist as well!?

@michaelregis1015

Ай бұрын

​​@@koushikdas1992it is highly possible to be against radical islamists and be pro-Palestinian liberation. I'm a secularist and believe in freedom of religion and religious and ethnic plurality, but I don't agree with those who use their religion to subjugate others or infringe on other persons' liberties unjustly, which is why I'm against radical Christians, radical Jews, radical Hindus, radical Muslims, radical Buddhists and any other radical relgious people that would like to do such things. I am also pro-liberation which means I am against the occupant State of Israel and will forever be against the State of Israel as long as they keep treating Gazans and the people of the West Bank as less than dog meat, and continually and daily violating international laws and human rights to do so.

One word: ignorance.

@SARWSiddiqui

6 ай бұрын

You mean ignorance on the side of Israel's supporters right?

INDOCTRINATION PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

@banta-pd8zj

6 ай бұрын

A very good reason to abandon propaganda channels like this one.

Some young people have never heard of WW1, and know absolutely nothing of history in general.

@ismailahmed4876

2 ай бұрын

Who did World War I and World War II and where did they take place?🔻🔻🤣🇬🇧🇺🇸🤣🔻👀

They don’t, young uni students do, because their lecturers pollute their judgement. I’ve long said their needs to be a constant audit of universities by an independent body.

@johnschuh8616

5 ай бұрын

The liberals of the 50s, who taught me, were reasonable men. My fellow students even in a conservative Texas school were radical. They went into the Universities and when in position hired persons to their left. The problem is that the world of the left like the world of the right is actually flat, and eventually one falls off the edge into the abyss of unreason.

This is human nature, the young see themselves as powerless in the face of the establishment and thus identify with other powerless but politically active and expressive groups.

@routeman680

6 ай бұрын

We are all powerless in the face of the establishment, and the establishment today is the globalist left aligned with international big business.

No 18 to 25-year-old person is watching this.

The core roles of a proper education system are to teach students the fundamentals that will hopefully guide them through life, such as the proper use of their native language and perhaps one other, being able to do basic math and reasoning, know enough history of their country and the world so they're not complete nincompoops, and so on. And perhaps the most important fundamental of all is the ability to think critically so as to be able to make good choices in life and at the very least not be at the mercy of liars, propagandists, manipulators and fools. It appears that this isn't being taught these days, but rather "positivity", so they never feel "bad". Which is the pedagogical equivalent of giving them Ritalin and even stronger drugs to make them compliant and subservient. So no wonder they can't figure their way through all this one-sided propaganda. They lack the skills, or even the awareness that such skills exist and are crucially important.

@albertgrant1017

6 ай бұрын

Well stated !

@Stephen-lt1tp

6 ай бұрын

Feminism…

@rodneyparker5313

6 ай бұрын

The purpose of compulsory education is to churn out non-thinking compliant citizens who can be manipulated. Read Bernay and Lippman.

@choiyatlam2552

4 ай бұрын

What’s interesting is that the Baby boomers have themselves to blame in this issue. They are the one to cause the university to fall into far left and now complaining youngster are more extreme than them during the anti-war time.

Its called access to information, older generation had only legacy media , like print and tv airing and printing propaganda news. Young people have good access to information thanks to internet (eventhough google sensor/shadow ban a lot) people are slowly seeing what is right and worng

@vacanlient

3 ай бұрын

How dense do you have to be to believe that someone in 2024 doesn’t have access to information? My mother was doing her PhD when Stanford and UCLA got connected via internet in 1969. You believe that google is a pinnacle of information? We are raising a generation of semiliterate ignorants who learn their info from Chinese government app and believe that it is superior to learning history and critical thinking… 😂😂😂

The relationship of (young) lefties and radical Islamists isn't new or surprising. Back in the 1960's and 1970's, left wing radicals (i.e. Red Army Faction in Germany, Red Brigades in Italy, Japanese Red Army) collaborated with Palestinian terrorists, murdering politicians, corporate big shots and hijacking planes. They had plenty of moral support from youngsters and the moderate left - it was fashionable to support the 'underdog', very similar to what I am seeing today. I am hopeful most youngsters will eventually grow up and move on. As the saying goes - "if you are twenty and not a socialist you have no heart, if you are forty and not a capitalist you have no brain". The radical Islamists are a different story, don't have much hope for their enlightenment any time soon.

@kennethmacalpin7655

6 ай бұрын

The far right collaborated with Islamists all the time, Black September was done with help from local neo-Nazis.

@banta-pd8zj

6 ай бұрын

I'm sorry but the only lefties throwing bombs today are... I'm sorry...what was that...leftists aren't throwing bombs and haven't for 50 years? Mainly ultra rightist are the threat today, arch conservatives on steroids you say? Well I never!

@deathwarmedup73

6 ай бұрын

"if you are twenty and not a socialist you have no heart, if you are forty and not a conservative you have no brain". (Winston Chuchill). Fixed that for you. I'm sure you actually knew, so i'll put it down to your disingenuousness rather than ignorance.

@chrisbirmele835

6 ай бұрын

@@deathwarmedup73 Sorry to disappoint but the quote has little to do with Churchill. Georges Clemenceau, Francois Guizot, John Adams and others such as François de La Rochefoucauld uttered variations of it a hundred years before the good old British 'Bulldog' was born. Nevertheless the gist of it is all the same and I am glad you recognise this and tried to contribute something meaningful. Good effort!

@nurulhudavijapurwala4936

6 ай бұрын

Redical Islamist and terrorist word exist before 70 years? , why the United 🐍 of America crate Osama bin Laden for attack on USSR but hit back on United States after this word coming in market , why the place iraq where the khwarijmi invented algebra and hythem invented a concept of lence and it's uses to study astronomy in the time of Islam and not it's hotspot of terrorism , why when United States enter iraq and Syria then the terrorist organisation invented by United States ? Why before 70-80 years there is not a word terrorist or not any terrorist organisation like isis and al Qaeda , Al Qaeda conduct 9/11 but United States create al Qaeda , can you tell me who is the creator of terrorism ? And why the creator suffering the terrorism in 2001 , if terrorism is wrong for the creator then why the creator creats terrorism ,

Because young people are generally naive, easily influenced, easily offended, and believe everyone has good intentions.

You know, when I don't know about something that I wish to know more about, I go to the internet, watching videos, go to sites about the subject, asking other people about the subject, because I want to get as much info as I can about the subject... *WHY CAN'T EVERYBODY ELSE DO THE SAME THING!?!?!?!!?!??*

@wishteria234

6 ай бұрын

Even Wikipedia is full of mis truths. Encyclopedia sites are better.

@bluegregory6239

6 ай бұрын

Because they are no longer taught basic research skills or intellectual curiosity, that's why. Sad but true.

@Carfilliot

6 ай бұрын

In a way they do this, the problem is that they go to their favourite ‘influencer’ to gain information lol

@colinburns9736

6 ай бұрын

And right here we see insights. Yes, education plays a role. But there is also a desperation to follow the tribe involved. It is actually terrifying. I think social media is giving us an acceleration and radicalisation of human nature, or something like that.

@banta-pd8zj

6 ай бұрын

Fund the education system properly. Abandon a class system of education. Pay your teachers properly and educate your teachers properly. I got that off the internet too. I typed in why the Finns have the best education in the world. Go on. You said yourself it's not difficult.

Two other factors: younger people are more likely to demonstrate and the Muslim community (in Britain at least) is very young. Israel has always enjoyed a lot of support from Christians, at least in America. With 2024 being election year it is unwise to rock the boat, but in Britain fewer people call themselves Christian and it has actually slipped below 50%. Labour is walking a tightrope because of the big Muslim vote, even with a large lead they cannot be complacent. We too will have an election next year.

@cantrell0817

6 ай бұрын

UK will regret allowing in so many Muslims, especially Arabs. Tragic

@jchan9761

6 ай бұрын

5% of the population declare themselves practicing muslims according to the ONS.

Youth collectively senses the ‘politically correct’ viewpoint and sticks to it like the proverbial; doesn’t care to bother with the history or the complexity - looks for the easy option.

@xxxxxxxxxxxdfdszfgsz

6 ай бұрын

Nope. this is the first generation that grew up with unlimited access to information, and because of that we are free thinkers. I do find it ironic however that these “intellectuals” who say that they hold free speech in such high regard are so adamant on cracking down on the those who have dissenting opinions. It’s as if they never really believed in free speech. if that were the case, they wouldn’t be so scared of voices that challenge their fragile worldview. For them, free speech is secondary to maintaining western hegemony. The same can’t be said for the youth, we have had the benefit of growing up with the internet and because of that we don’t easily buy into the pro Israel dogma spoon fed to us by the media and American institutions. The tide has now changed.

@andrewbarton-willson495

6 ай бұрын

@@xxxxxxxxxxxdfdszfgszInteresting and a useful antithesis - thank you. The argument for free thinking is good but no corrective for the collective myopia of woke opinion

@koushikdas1992

5 ай бұрын

​@@xxxxxxxxxxxdfdszfgszI'm also young. I want to know who is the oppressor and oppressed in israel-palestine conflict!?

@xxxxxxxxxxxdfdszfgsz

5 ай бұрын

@@koushikdas1992 Israel is the oppressor, but ur Indian so I won't expect u to agree. You guys are so blinded by Muslim hate that you will side with Israel just because you want to see Muslims blown up. just look at how u guys treat the Kashmiris.

interesting point

It's rich vs poor. The Viet Nam protests were more about not getting blown up in a meaningless war, when they had the House in the suburbs, 2 car garage, atomic family in their future. Today's youth see their future as being a Barista making $13 an hour and having 3 roommates to get by, so they sympathize with the poorer nation's citizens.

@JL_Lux

3 ай бұрын

Maybe the white kids but let’s be real. Poor kids die in war. It’s always rich vs poor. The Vietnam soldiers had more to look forward to if they got home yes but let’s be real they were poor. Couldn’t afford not to serve. This isn’t new

@PFB1994

3 ай бұрын

@@JL_Lux There's a reason there is no draft anymore. Viet Nam protests on college campuses were all about well off white people who might get drafted not wanting to get drafted and killed. there wasn't 1/10th the college protests of Iraq and Afghanistan - because nobody was in danger of getting drafted.

The Palestinians need basic rights - like citizenship. There is no sane argument that supports them not having basic rights.

@CanadianMonarchist

6 ай бұрын

I would be delighted for them to have rights of citizenship and free movement; I wish they could have their own state and live in peace with Israel.

I said this over a month ago about our academic institutions, with regards to the support of Palestine I am surprised that people are just waking up to this now.

It’s not uncommon as violent mobs form for opposing groups to cooperate for awhile helping get rid of a common foe. The “colonizer”. However, like the French Revolution, these groups will eventually attack each other.

I'm in my mid 50's and would consider myself almost right wing, but my parents did a good job of teaching me the basics between right and wrong - committing genocide and ethnic cleansing on the people you have invaded and occupied in my opinion is simply wrong

@acied6200

6 ай бұрын

But thats not what is happening. Its a extreme terroristic group (hamas) calling for the complete destruction of all jews. Who is cleansing who ?

@Xaq_udirir

6 ай бұрын

God bless your parents and you

@johndong7524

6 ай бұрын

Apparently they missed the part of doing your research.

@get5148

6 ай бұрын

I'm in my late 20's, and I cannot believe the level of stupidity you just exhibited here.

@DisarestaFinisher

6 ай бұрын

I have a better idea, maybe they shouldn't be violent in the first place? Maybe instead of building rockets, weapons and tunnels they should have taken the billions of dollars that they received in aid money and build Infrastructure? Maybe don't shoot rockets from civilian locations, and don't hide among the civilians? These are just suggestions.

It goes much further than the young people being pro-Palestine. Many young people have gone 'no-contact' with their parents this is being encouraged on some social media channels and by younger counsellors and therefore they are looking for a sense of belonging by being part of certain groups hence rallies

@val.is.g0d

6 ай бұрын

if ur kids are going no-contact that sounds more like the parents fault lol im tired of u ppl not taking responsibility for who they raise, childrens brains are like sponges

Youth have no idea what islam will do to them

@johndong7524

6 ай бұрын

They do. I think the young people who visited Pulse are fully aware after experiencing the wonders of the religion of peace.

wisdom. respect.

Great point

In the battle of logic and feelings it seems our kids have someqhwre along the line been taught that feelings are valued more than logic. This allows a person to hold opposing logical views (hamas AND lgbtq); simple, they just reject or devalue logic, for example they could be taught in the modern uni that logic is a white European oppressor tool of colonialist subjugation. Personal relativist opinion (ie feeling, not logical reasoning) is the norm encouraged by post modern thinkers; who actually would not be able to execute their post modern project without using reason anyway - but who cares for the inconsistency anyway!?!? The result? A group of individuals belieiving in their own personal subjective ideas is that they become little gods unto themselves (...nyeah..and so long as they align with groupthink).

@johnschuh8616

5 ай бұрын

I taught geometry to high school students. Not until it has to do this did I really understand that the function of teaching the subject is to teach formal logic. Ironically, too few math teachers know they are teaching axiomatic thinking.

It very simple it’s about humanity for all. You don’t need degrees to figure it out. You just have to be human!

@banta-pd8zj

6 ай бұрын

Tell these 2 crusted on bigots to tell their kids not to get an education.

@mon_avis2978

6 ай бұрын

_If we have committed one crime during this period, it is we have pushed out the idea that you can understand freedom through simplicities. "I believe in free speech. I believe in open borders. I believe in democracy. I believe in One man-One vote."...People have got to wake up to the idea that they've been fed child-like aphorisms that do not actually work for the very difficult times we are in....So the idea is we need to let people in on how immature society actually handled these things over time._ Eric Weinstein, 2023

@koushikdas1992

5 ай бұрын

If I want to be human, then I have to be against Isreal people? Is that the rule?

@inkipinki8468

5 ай бұрын

@@koushikdas1992 they are currently behaving in an inhuman way!

@koushikdas1992

5 ай бұрын

@@inkipinki8468 I see both sides are currently behaving bad and kliing people a lot!

There was an interview a couple days back on Al Jazeera with a Palestinian refugee who had just been in a bombing raid. He started with the usual condemn those doing it to us, but then quickly turned and said the Hamas militants can go pound sand as well. Reporter instantly got off of him, so as not to allow that undesirable opinion to be allowed out into public. What do the islamists do better? Control.. The.. Narrative. I have no dog in this fight, but I can see quite well which side keeps tighter wraps. That has quite the outsized effect people underestimate...

How can anyone support depriving 2 million civilians of food, water, electricity and medicine? Where’s the morality in that?

@johndong7524

6 ай бұрын

Where is morality in supporting October 7 attacks?

@michaelregis1015

Ай бұрын

​@@johndong7524and the 75 years of colonialism systematic displacement followed right after The Nakba doesn't matter? You see, unlike you imperialist sympathisers, many of the pro-Palestinian camp's history spans further back than October 7th.

@johndong7524

Ай бұрын

@@michaelregis1015 Should've learned to co-exist and make amends instead of resorting to violence and terrorism. What about systematic genocide and persecution of the indigenous Mizrahi Jews that was taking place in the region for centuries way before The Nakba this whole "Next year in Israel" thing?

Why are you surprised? The young live in their time The old live in theirs The Heroes of yesteryears are the Villains of today Those who try to keep the world from turning today Will not be remembered tomorrow

@muxion

6 ай бұрын

every generation is already forgotten by the time they die

@koushikdas1992

5 ай бұрын

So only Isreal people are oppressors!?

Because they understand the Balfour Declaration?

I don't think they were ever for free speech. They're for free speech when it works to their favour. Aside from that, forget about it.

I was in the military for 6 years before going to college. I did a pump to Syria in 2018 and met some of the Yazidi victims of ISIS's genocide. I'm in college now at 26 and very few of these kids are actually informed about the world. They're 18-20, still live with their parents, they have very little life experience on top of being born after September 11th, and being little kids when ISIS and Boko Haram were always in the news. Their leftism will likely subside as they age. That's my guess.

@jchan9761

6 ай бұрын

That you equate Palestinians to ISIS tells me that you are just starting your journey of learning.

@EzraB123

6 ай бұрын

@@jchan9761 Palestinians? No. Hamas? Yes. Maybe read my comment again simpleton.

@view1st

6 ай бұрын

And consider that all these alphabet soup terrorist organisations were created directly or indirectly by the USA for the express purpose of destabilising West Asia.

@CanadianMonarchist

6 ай бұрын

@@jchan9761Hamas is equivalent to ISIS.

@koushikdas1992

5 ай бұрын

​@@jchan9761Can hamas equate?

Because " Young People" were not polled in Essex, Somerset or New Jersey, only in middle-class University townd

Why is it not that youth use social media more which is a breading ground of the extreme left and propaganda?

Absolutely...

The reason that young people including myself support palestine is because we have greater access to the media and information online, and its a lot faster to access information than before, so it easier to see what's happening in the world, and easier to detect lies from the media. I agree that education is very important and nowadays a lot of teachers have biased views and do not want to educate people on what is happening on both sides. But I can say that when I don't know something I look it up online, I read articles and vlogs, watch the news , do my own research to make sure that I am not supporting something unless I have good understanding of what I am standing for. Being pro palestine doesnt mean am antisemitic it means am anti-zionist. I do not agree with what was happening in Palestine over the past 75 years, illegal occupation and open air concentration camp, the israelis controlled everything in Palestine, the food, the water, the daily life of citizens in Palestine, their homes and their shops, they even took children and women as hostages and imprisoned them, stealing away their lives and childhood. From what I have seen online, from the October 7th attack , I understand Israel's pain from 1400 people killed, but as they have understood the suffering from losing lives they should understand why the genocide that they are supporting is very wrong. How is the killing of innocent people in Palestine going to help make a solution, are u telling me that innocent babies are also a part of hama s ? The reason that I am pro palestine is because I dont support apartheid and illegal occupation that has been going on in Palestine for far too long. I think we should free Palestine from having to make Hamas in the first place. Why do u think hamas was created in the first place, its because they saw the results and violence from the illegal occupation , and they lost many precious lives including their friends and family, and they saw in their own eyes the humiliation done to them as the Israelis raided their homes and their shops, killing someone everyday, this obviously built up anger in them, and that's why they were created in the first place, to resist the illegal occupation and to have freedom, so they can live safely in their homes without having to be worried about raiding's and shoot*ngs from israel. I dont support any kind of killing of innocent lives but I support resistance against illegal occupation, and genocide. Plus the Israelis have been doing this even before the cot 7th attack when there was no hamas. Please education urself online and look up youtube videos and news to see the many wars Palestinian had to face throughout the years. I am ashamed that I did not educate myself earlier on this, but its never to late. If you dont agree with what am talking about I suggest watching 'They call us terrorists': Inside the Palestinian resistance forces of Jenin, West Bank ' video on youtube and as well as Al Jazeera english news because they are the only news that show the truth in what is happening in Palestine. I also recommend watching 'How Israeli Apartheid Destroyed My Hometown'. If you still dont agree with me the comment below and tell me ur views about this and I will try to reply. Thanks for reading.

@giuliakhawaja7929

6 ай бұрын

@Sed-sy A huge amount of information- obviously you have been feeding off the internet and it’s completely one sided so you only read what will reinforce your prejudice. I’ve got access to the internet on my iPhone 13 and I’m 77.

@garyschultz425

6 ай бұрын

Yes - and the moral high ground benightedly occupied by those who are purely pro Israeli like Douglas Murray beggars belief. These guys are supposed to be smart, the breakdown of reason astounds me

@3rdEyeWide

6 ай бұрын

You have no idea about the actual history, your generation (not all - but a good deal), seem to think all this started yesterday and Hamas is the natural result of Israeli wrongdoing. I'm sorry, but this has been going on for lifetimes. Go and look up the PLO - terrorist activities have always been a de facto method for "Palestinians" to acheive their political ambitions. There have been so many two-state solutions offered to the "Palestinians" but they always reject them. Thousands of rockets are indiscrimately launched year on year into Israel population centres, not to mention suicide bombers. How long does Israel have to put up with it all?

@Valeman7689

6 ай бұрын

What is anti-Zionism? Zionism is the movement for self-determination and statehood of the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the land of Israel. By contrast, anti-Zionism rejects Israel as a legitimate member of the community of nations and denies the right for Jews to self-determination and to establish a state in the land of Israel. Anti-Zionism is often expressed, explicitly or implicitly, in the rejection of the status of the Jewish people as a nation and the denial of the Jewish right to self-determination; the vilification and ostracization of individuals and groups associated with Zionism; and the downplaying or negation of the historic and spiritual Jewish connection to the land of Israel. Anti-Zionism is distinct from criticism of the policies or actions of the government of Israel, or critiques of specific policies of the pre-state Zionist movement, in that it attacks the foundational legitimacy of Jewish self-determination and statehood. Anti-Zionism is antisemitic, in intent or effect, as it invokes anti-Jewish tropes; is used to disenfranchise, demonize, disparage, or punish all Jews and/or those who feel a connection to Israel; exploits Jewish trauma by invoking the Holocaust in order to position Jews as akin to Nazis; or renders Jews less worthy of nationhood and self-determination than other peoples. So no I can't accept that you are not anti semitic.

@desubakker369

6 ай бұрын

Exactly, and every lie that used to be so easily pushed in the past can now be debunked by actual on the ground reporting, with information backed by respected historians and scholars. Even the replies here that justify Israel's atrocities and dare to call others who don't follow their beliefs "ignorant" or "prejudiced" have been refuted over and over again by a wide diversity of people, including anti-zionist jews, and born and bred israelis albeit a small minority. To stand up for what's right in an era of endless toxicity is nothing to be ashamed of, not to mention knowledge that was once censored from us before will no longer hide their malicious narratives. From the river to the sea 🇵🇸

They interviewed these kids at a march. They didnt have a clue about the topic. Well its like cool cos tiktok said so

No, the reason is that younger people are more open minded, not yet brainwashed, and have better access to information.

Young people are clearly ignorant as they have no inclination to research the history of the conflict. They just react to what they see

I’m saddened by this opinion. The simple question “why is there a youthful bias in support of the Palestinians?” is answered because of ‘woke-ism’, the latest fashion of developing youth, rather than a deep set revulsion against war which should be inherent in all people. The question should be something like “why do we accept the use of conflict as a means of spreading democracy and freedom?”. I’m not a clever intellectual, but I will not be distracted by these side issues. Youth will get bored with the LBQ (whatever) fashion and the bias of universities will again begin to swing to the right. My thoughts go back to the 1963 speech of JFK where he referred to the ‘Pax Americana’, and warned against the use of force to spread the benefits of democracy and the American way of life. History I think tells us that this was ignored by subsequent administrations, conflicts and clandestine operations the go to method for spreading democracy. Even after the fall of the Soviet Union when a new peace could have been forged across nations, instead new conflicts were invented across the globe and particularly the Middle East with the ‘war on terror’. What have we seen since this ‘war’began? A more secure world or a world destabilised, the growth of hatred and terror, disaffected and disrupted peoples moving across an insecure and unfriendly globe. The increase of more unelected and undemocratic organisations and the eroding of basic human rights. We should not be so naive as to accept the stated reasons for these conflicts and alliances and the methods they use to distract and confuse the issues. Look beneath the surface and there is no morality, no consistency in the values applied.

Niall: “Am I out of touch? No! It is the children who are wrong!”

@joejohnson6327

3 ай бұрын

I'm not a fan of Niall Ferguson, but many of the young people he's referring to definitely engage only in black-and-white thinking & they're ineffective af.

Strange times we are living in: while we se a resurgence of fascism in Europe, however, from the left this time hand in hand with imported religious fascism, a tiny country in the Middle East is holding up true European values. A sad, sad time to experience.

@johnw574

6 ай бұрын

Fascism is intrinsically a left wing ideology. Progressive, redistribution of wealth, state control, morality/ideology first.

Exactly

Politics makes strange bedfellows! It is hard (for me) to determine when, exactly, it became fashionable among young people to be opposed to anything or everything their parents tried to teach them. It's been going on for at least a few generations now. Older people in general and conservative older people in particular have been quite willing to assume that the modern political nation of Israel in the Middle East IS the reincarnation of biblical Israel. I strongly identify with the lifestyle promoted in the Hebrew Bible and there are similarities between that and traditional Judaism (i.e. a religion based on rabbinic traditions) but those two things are not entirely congruent. AND the modern political state is a secular state in which the majority of citizens (even a majority of Hebrew citizens) are not "observant" in any strict sense of the word. "Most people who think they have rejected God have really only rejected a caricature of him." - Rich Hannon So if young people think they have rejected the God of their parents or grandparents - a God they were taught is and will continue to roast sinners in perpetuity - many of the young people tend to throw the baby (the concept of a fiat creator and sovereign of the universe) out with the bathwater (Greek philosophy and practices that got palmed off as Christian tradition).

@ismailahmed4876

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@rogermetzger7335

2 ай бұрын

@@ismailahmed4876Some people seem to think I have above average ability to explain things. Now, what I'd like to know is how I can get paid for doing that.

The kiddies have had it too good. Instant gratification makes them pick sides that "feel good" and seem popular. Being with the "in" crowd more important than being right. Then bolster their position with echo chamber narratives.

There is another aspect to it - Israel is now perceived as the strongman and palestinians are perceived as the defenceless or at least as the underdogs. It is difficult for the young generation to understand how a rich and developed and militarily extremely powerful Israel could be the victim to a poor, isolated, underdeveloped and militarily primitive Palestine. The older generations have lived to see Israel's struggle in the region and have a greater historic understanding of the conflict, so to them this is not an issue.

@s.b.662

4 ай бұрын

Struggling? You referring to the 1948 war? Did you know that the slaughter of civilians started way before that? The massacre of Deir Yassin and operation cast dey bread were people were killed in masses startet in April 1948 the arab nations responded in May 1948 after thousands of people fleed to their country. Is there anything that justifies that?

@guruxara7994

3 ай бұрын

Israel isn't a victim.

The imperative to oppose the loss of innocent lives and the constraints on essential resources extends beyond any beliefs or religious affiliations. Consider the profound empathy that arises when envisioning these suffering families - what if the dying and struggling infants and mothers were your own flesh and blood? #HUMANITY#MATTERS

The shift in Democratic support for Israel is not just a matter of generation gap. It is the result of consistent effort by Netanyahu to shift Israel squarely into the Republican, and even the Trumpist camp. He views himself as a Republican' and as such, deeply despises anything Democrat. (The interests of the state of Israel in maintaining US support even during Democrat administrations, do not impress him, he never thinks of anything other than himself anyway).

@Esp142

6 ай бұрын

And is this levity of momentaneous politics motivation enough to allow terrorists to do anything they wanted ???What a dangerous people these USA's representatives are , aren't they ??

@deathwarmedup73

6 ай бұрын

I listened to a Radio 4 presenter trying to interview some Israeli spokeswoman at Israel's UK embassy the other day (?) and she sounded like she could have a been a spokeswoman for the Trump administration. She was still shouting as they were forced to cut her off. I always try and distinguish between Israel and the Netanyahu government.

@amos083

6 ай бұрын

@@deathwarmedup73 Practically every leader of the opposition parties had served in his government in the past, and every one of them came out not to come near him again. He's left with are people taken off the bottom rung, who obviously can't cope.

Young generation easy to manipulate to believe, is Happening to me too , when I was young , and poor working so hard to live by .

@guruxara7994

3 ай бұрын

Old farts are as easy to manipulate, they're being brainwashed by zionist media for a long time

Its the internal romantic disneyland fantasy of rescuing the world. On the wrong side.

Or perhaps those young people are just concerned about human rights.

Why do leftists hate the Jewish religion and Jewish culture? (Although not the Jewish 'race' which distinguishes them from certain other Jew-haters.) Below is how Karl Marx put it himself in his essay, "ON the Jewish Question.' "Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew - not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money[...] An organization of society which would abolish the preconditions for huckstering, and therefore the possibility of huckstering, would make the Jew impossible[...] The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews[...] Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man - and turns them into commodities[...] The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange[...] The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general."

@johnmccracken3473

Ай бұрын

The leftist ultimately hates competence, be it ability, creativity, beauty or ability to make things. Jews do pretty well on some of these

Well, that is stating the obvious. What is the solution? I just watched a UN speech by a Palestinian representative. And all the comments were in favor of her hypocritical expression. Everyone called Palestinians a peace loving nation. There was no mention of hamas at all. Someone with an Arabic name commented that Palestinians=Hamas. And these youngsters support that!

@Esp142

6 ай бұрын

Maybe a lack of historical knowledge , culture , intelligence , deduction , logical thinking along together indoctrination .. ???? ???? ????

@mohamedali2858

6 ай бұрын

Resistance Hamas was founded by Ahmed Yassin 1987 and the establishment of the terrorist entity 1948 by David Ben Gurion

@Esp142

6 ай бұрын

@@mohamedali2858 , what exctly are you trying to say ? That there's good precedence in jewish return and resistance is a late invented argument ? Is that so ...

@Esp142

6 ай бұрын

@@mohamedali2858 , without mentioning archaeological evidences of a Jewish Civilization in that region since 3000 b.C.

@FreeKhazaria

6 ай бұрын

@@Esp142 Yeah, but what they say in response is "Palestinians are the *real* Jews"

Indeed

the first on the list to get rid of are the uni lecturers

@lobstermash

6 ай бұрын

I agree that certain sectors in academe have a lot to answer for in the wave of uninformed, judgmental, and prejudiced thinking that currently abounds. But not all academic fields are equally problematic. The traditional fields such as mathematics, philosophy (not 20th C continental philosophy) and the physical sciences teach logical thinking - how to reason from evidence. The so-called liberal arts were strongly influenced by Postmodernism which at its most extreme holds that truth and reason do not exist, or are to be rejected. All judgment is relative. Every opinion is equally valuable, blah blah blah. Don't blame the whole academy for wrong thinking, but blame the soft arts programmes (they cannot be called disciplines) for the oppression of discernment and the promotion of Newthink. And blame the traditional Arts (yes I'm looking at you Literature and History) for drinking the Koolaid.

they'll grow out of it. Young people are just dumb

After 75 years of oppression and the tragic deaths of 11,000 innocent civilians, it's disheartening to be in a position where we feel compelled to act as the moral authority.

It is time to send in Síouxsie And The Banshees. They would know how to sort it all out. ❤❤❤

@Reggie-bunsofsteel-Mcduff1001

6 ай бұрын

How so.?

@LenQuerido

6 ай бұрын

@@Reggie-bunsofsteel-Mcduff1001 In the UK, maybe. But we need Gen Z or Gen X generation Siouxsie, I'm afraid... If you don't get it, don't bother.

I am 71 years old. I am no fellow traveler of the current generation of "I Protest". I regard most as a bunch of "W-anchors". However From the mid 1970s I worked in the Middle East . Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia . The Red Sea, The Persian gulf. the Mediterranean. I went on to drill oil wells across the world from south atlantic to the caspian sea. South Africa, Brazil, South China sea . Gulf of mexico, Caribbean. North Sea. I have visited Israel on a number of occasions in the early 80s. As a child before 1967 I was a firm Supporter of Israel, influenced by works such as "Exodus" by Leon Uris. In my 20s I learnt to read deeper. since then I have continued to read , study and discuss the topic. For 4 decades I have been an advocate for the rights of the "Palestinians" . I have campaigned on the streets, against what I believed to be a dispossession and an example of "Might makes right". Mr. Ferguson despite his 15 books and his qualifications. Is a polemicist of the first order. 10s of thousands of those demonstrating were of an older and more informed generation . many like me campaigning for years. Many of them as my Brother in Law are Jewish. Zionism is not Jewish Jewish is not Zionism.

The larger problem is that people stick to their bubbles and don't dialogue with anyone who doesn't affirm them. And its clear that this applies to older generations every bit as much as younger ones. Probably more so. Putting people in a category of your own creation and judging them based on that rather than actually talking to them. Making broad generalizations based on the most superficial observations. And harboring a double standard that 'my' view should be judged by my best intentions while the opposing view should be judged by its least positive outcomes. You see a pro palestine demonstration where young people are present, frequently edited for maximum effect by people who aren't sympathetic and simply assume that this is the position of young people generally. Its akin to watching the capitol invasion and simply assuming that every person of that representative age group must share that view... which plenty of people do also. If you really care about principles and you really care about people you will not reflexively jump on the easiest source of personal affirmation. You will not judge people in large groups. You will, I think actually have a conversation with the intention of finding common ground. There are many people in Israel trying to do this... on both sides of that ideological divide. And they get close to a solution and every time strident partisans and fanatics sabotage it. Stop using dehumanizing language. Stop talking about people as if they are necessarily represented by some lowest common denominator that you assigned to them. Stop being the problem.

Our educational system is circling the toilet.

Because they think they are nice, but they're not.

Niall Ferguson opens his Empire: How Britain Made the Modern World by saying britain successfully changed the colour of two continents. in other words it carried out two genocides but he doesn't say that,

@SpaceHCowboy

6 ай бұрын

Sober up 🤡

@johnmccracken3473

Ай бұрын

what two?

They support HAMAS not Palestine

@marinakoshelev6006

6 ай бұрын

I just wrote something and someone with an Arab name responded to it - Palestine=HAMAS and HAMAS=Palestine

@SARWSiddiqui

6 ай бұрын

Yeah you would love for people to believe that, wouldn't you. Stop spreading Israeli propaganda.

It's all the photos of wounded Palestinian kids. Seeing wounded kids tugs at everyone's hearts. And Israel is a success story. You need a bigger view of history than yesterday's tweet to appreciate how vulnerable Israel is.

@dahirkarshe5150

6 ай бұрын

Dude, they came as refugees to Palestine. Now they oppress them.. that's all it is

Kids are taught the logical fallacy of genophilia (obsession with or overuse of classifications and categories), imho.

After 9/11, I began studying the history of Afghanistan and learning about the Arab/Israeli conflict. I was a curious young university student at the time in Canada and so I started following what was going on in the Middle East and it didn't take me long to realize Israel was causing most of the problems and tensions over there. I got into 9/11 Truth and Michael Moore, and gradually that led me to Ron Paul and then Bernie Sanders. Now I'm following Norman Finkelstein and his research. But today's youth have the internet and social media to research on their own. Back in the early 2000s, there was the internet, but you had to really search. Just like I was, young people are curious. Boomers aren't into changing their minds about things. They have their opinions and they stick to them.

@peterbassey9668

6 ай бұрын

Rubbish.

@nurulhudavijapurwala4936

6 ай бұрын

As a human i support humanity , and i am totally support pelestinians peoples

@meatrealwishes

5 ай бұрын

Those days we used to have a mourning session in school every time gaza was bombed by israel. It was traumatizing for kids to see it happening to stateless people. Impunity from our president and demonization by the media made things a lot worse. The kids had to know the history. We had research projects. All could get to only one conclusion that we destroyed the peace in middle east by creating israel.

Why does any thinking, educated person not support Palestinians? I’m 73 and have been studying the history of the area for about 50 years and the more I learn the more I’m certain that a monumental injustice has been, and is being, done to the Palestinian people.

@kwokleongawyong2895

6 ай бұрын

The Israelites and philistine are indigenous populations of the Canaan island which is present day Palestine. So are native Americans suppose to leave their home soil?

@CanadianMonarchist

6 ай бұрын

I consider myself a thinking educated person. I support the rights of the Palestinians to have their own state and live in peace with their neighbours. I also support the right of the Israelis to have their own state and live in peace with their neighbours. Unfortunately it seems there are more Jews who accept the former than Arabs who accept the latter.

he assumes young ppl can't think when presented with facts.

@vacanlient

3 ай бұрын

The problem is they don’t want facts. They want their facts. And yes, a lot of young people can’t think. It’s a skill that they no longer teach. These days everyone is right because nobody can be wrong because they are too fragile to survive it. So everyone is right while very few are…

In this case I guess the Palestinians are victims of HAMMAS. But in other cases, why any of them support any enemy of where they live is certainly beyond me. No matter where they are from. Archangel Michael

@thestruggleisallthatmatter8833

6 ай бұрын

Hamas? 75 years of occupation, before Hamazeh was even created. How do you explain that? How do you explain the Nakba? Free Palestine 🇵🇸 from ishiteal terrorism

It's tiktok. Most young people get their info from tiktok.

Because they see an obvious example of colonial oppression in action.

@CanadianMonarchist

6 ай бұрын

Historically most acts of colonial oppression ended with the colonizer going back to his own country. I don’t know where the Israelis are supposed to go.

@DaBIONICLEFan

5 ай бұрын

Allowing Arabs to live, work and run for office in Israel, yeah sounds real "oppressive".

No word on the demographics of the various age groups I wonder why younger folks have such a different outlook on Israel A real mystery!

Schools stopped teaching history.

You have it backwards. It is the olds and their limited access to information that have been subjected to propaganda. The youth have unlimited access to information and therefore are not as easily manipulated by a handful of limited sources. Keep in mind that many of the olds spent their educational life watching a tv with only 3 channels.

@rachelg785

6 ай бұрын

Exactly. The truth is spilling over now... Zionism is at the end of it's days, thank God.

@davidgladstone5261

6 ай бұрын

You are dead wrong. With 3 channels we got more coherent news and context than anyone does today with unlimited access to nonsense. They don't know anything and have no ability to understand the difference between right and wrong. That takes personal courage and years of experience. They don't have either.

@marinakoshelev6006

6 ай бұрын

perhaps information with no discernment

@hjorturreynisson1484

6 ай бұрын

Better 70s and 80s TV than watching Tiktok videos with an attention span of seconds. We also had a thing called books back then, you youngsters still have if you can still read…

@benvinall2868

6 ай бұрын

​@@marinakoshelev6006give us a break.

Niall Ferguson demonstrates that someone can be learned without having learned to make a cogent and well supported argument.

@joshua6244

6 ай бұрын

?

@Jake-mp7ex

6 ай бұрын

Projecting a bit?

@frentz7

6 ай бұрын

yea turned it off after the first minute, pretty flamingly dumb stuff from Ferguson. I mean, 198 countries around the world, etc etc, Israel and what they do in the occupied territories, it's an abominiation .. it *might* have been an interesting five minutes if he had had the common sense to flip it, and ask why older people in the west have this other, weird attitude as if they put on the wrong eyeglasses and they can't see simple facts in front of their faces