Why do we say HAM burger if it's beef? Exploring the fascinating world of folk etymologies.
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You went into a lot of details and examples without overcomplicating things. Thanks so much!
@TheTravellingLinguist
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that 🙏
Like training to lose weight is called banting. Mr. Banting wrote a book about loosing weight.
In Cantonese "www" is pronounced as "dub dub dub" Since it is a highly monosyllabic language, the letter "w" pronounced as "double-u" is not known by the general public, and people alternated the sound to "dub-bi-u". Then, the 3 syllables are overwhelming for people so that they would use the first syllable and get rid of the remaining sound when speaking fast or causally. The irony is that some letter sounds changed from 1 to 2 syllables to entirely mimic the sound, like "L -> l-low", "R -> Ah-low". But when people need to speak fast and make an equal length for letters, they would just use the first syllable and drop the remaining (except for Z, because "i-zed" would become an "e" sound, so "zed" is used). Not too sure if this is the case for folk etymology, but it is really interesting!
@TheTravellingLinguist
2 жыл бұрын
That's super fascinating! As someone who doesn't speak Cantonese, it sounds like a tough language to master 😄
Nice Chanel I like your idea The traveling linguist
All this talk about Hamburg, but no mention that in German the word burg means fortress or mountain, as in Nuremburg, Hamburg, etc., and the Ham in Hamburg apparently means "water meadow"
Very interesting.
"...Speakers associated the last sounds of 'editor,' O-R, to be the same as the English suffix '-er,' which designates someone who does something...." Just to help you along with your explanation, that's called an "agent-noun suffix," a suffix that takes a verb and changes it into a noun referring to the person or thing that does something. Besides "-er" and "-or," there are a few others: "-ist," "-eur," etc. as well as feminine: "-euse," "-ress," "-trix," etc.
What about the Arabic roots, of some English words ? I may help in a such etymological interpretations.
HOh, it was interesting. THank you.
@TheTravellingLinguist
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😎
An orange, an adder.
I learned a lot but it left me with one question. How about steamed hams?
@TheTravellingLinguist
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes! The Albany dialect of American English 😂
Hmm. "another think" etc are all eggcorns. Did I miss you saying that was the common term for them?
@TheTravellingLinguist
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't but it would be a great topic to explore in greater depth in another video. Thanks for the suggestion ☺
do the etymology of "boterham" it's also a weird ham word, it means 'slice of bread' or 'slice of bread with something on it' or 'sandwich' (dubbele boterham) "boter" means what you think it means, 'dubbele' too. "hangmat" (hammock) is a nice word with folketymology in Dutch
@TheTravellingLinguist
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for sharing. What is the word history of hangmat? 😄
In Hebrew the word for sky is "Shamayim" which is wrongly assumed to be a combination of the words "sham" (meaning there) and "Mayim" (meaning water). So modern Hebrew speakers often believe the word for sky came about when ancient Hebrew speakers looked up and thought the blue color of the sky indicated the presence of water (like the sea). This is however completely not true and as a proof we can see the Arabic word for sky "Sama" which is clearly related yet has nothing to do with the words water or there.
@TheTravellingLinguist
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for sharing. That is pretty interesting. I wonder where the word came from thousands of years ago.
@hafnaouibali6883
Жыл бұрын
Yest, sometimes learners/ users presuppose a misleading process of etymological interpretations; by going over roots. Thanks.
Folk etymology, or "reanalyzing words into mythological status"
We always knew hamburger was beef, not ham. We were not stupid. Maybe gen X or younger are.
I'm glad it's not because ham used to mean people.
Isn't "old timer's disease" a joke?
@TheTravellingLinguist
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe to some! But some speakers who have never seen it spelled believe this to be the right pronunciation.
Interesting use of the flag of St George to represent the English language.
@TheTravellingLinguist
2 жыл бұрын
Which flag would be better? 😜 Spanish and English languages represented in flags is a tricky one.
some people seem to think the word "history" comes from "his story" and therefore "herstory" should also be a word. All this is just a big coincidence. History comes from the French word histoire meanwhile "his and her" are probably from Anglo Saxon / German.
@moodist1er
7 ай бұрын
No one believes that history is etymologically his story. It's a punny euphemism for patriarchal control and specifically patriarchal control by financial elites throughout recorded history. If some random person called for her-story it's just random and you're being reactionary to nothing.
Burger means citizen, I think. Ham is pig. So clearly hamburgers are made of sentient pigs with citizenship who were put on death row.
@TheTravellingLinguist
2 жыл бұрын
😂