As someone who watched and voted, when I first heard a clip of Olly's song I liked it and thought it could be a contender for the top slots. However, the live performance did the song no favors at all. I found it deeply off-putting. It looked to me like a group tryst in a slimy, dirty gym shower and it was too much for me. I think I am not alone in that. Also Olly's vocals did not seem to come through properly, which also marred the overall impression.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Completely agree. The performance was definitely off-putting and completely inappropriate.

Maybe next year UK’s entry doesn’t have a performance which appears to be gay men in the act of Cottaging . It may appeal to a small number of people but not mainstream. The fact that nil points from real people should tell the BBC most people were turned off.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I agree, the visuals for that performance were not appropriate. I don't think it appealed to anyone. The visuals seem almost as important as the song these days. Maybe it's time to reboot the whole thing and go back to singers and songs and drop the shenanigans.

@Test_Card_Tom

Ай бұрын

@@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy So how come a guy wearing a dress won it then?

@DebraGruber-hk7xl

Ай бұрын

omg so right

@DebraGruber-hk7xl

Ай бұрын

@@Test_Card_Tom politics Switzerland is nice and neutral and the song utterly forgettable

Olly's song was crap, its a shame instead of directing his hate to Eden Golan he ought to have been replaced by a decent singer

It was total crap, embarrassing, totally inappropriate, a performance that featured cottaging and did not appeal to mainstream Euro voters. BBC should look at themselves for allowing such an appalling act to represent the UK.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

29 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I think you feel the same as a lot of people.

Because we're not 1999. Or 2005. Even the gay world moved.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I don't think the BBC got the memo about that. Still living in the past.

How did the UK do so bad in this contest? Because it was crap. Does that answer the question?

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I think you got it in a nutshell.

Olly Alexander has had a successful career with Years and Years with a number of hit records around Europe, so he was a lot higher profile than most of our previous entries. The song was OK musically (the Swedish jury placed it third) but clearly not distinctive enough to get into anyone's top ten in the public vote and the staging may well have put some people off as well.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I think the staging definitely had something to do with it. Olly running his hand down the guy's bare chest and then the massive crotch -- completely inappropriate. The song was generic and unmemorable, and he didn't sing it well.

Why do we waste our time entering this vanity project,? It's a complete waste of time & money

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. A valid point, but it gives us something to complain about. It's probably Brits' favourite activity after talking about the weather and queueing!

I think the fans like something quirky and with angst. If lgbtqia - extra points. Am from australia, and thank you for letting us participate, however we probably should start another one for asia and oceania.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. It would be interesting to see if such a competition would work. I know that one for the Americas was considered but eventually abandoned.

Maybe it should be all scrapped because one just has to look at countries that continue to vote top points for each other every year ..Especialy in the past 6 to 10 years.Thats even if the song is total crap.The way the event is going ..Eventualy it will lose its audience with genuine music lovers.Starting with me .

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I don't think music lovers rate the show very highly. There have been so many novelty songs over the past decade or so.

Not enough Pride Voters!

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Or maybe they voted for the winner? There were a few LGBT singers there.

It was contrived and reductive. How can I shock, ooh let's go gay. Groundbreaking 30 years ago. Now......add to that a weak vocal. Nasal, vibrato breaking in seconds. It was dire.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Agree with everything.

@Test_Card_Tom

Ай бұрын

So how come a man in a skirt won the competition then?

Funny how they are all just 'anti war' not anti semitic but it is a, 'Jewish song' and how her song of hope after her people were attacked and babies murdered before thir parents is called a song about hate.

since Eurovision become a showcase for transgender/lgtb instead of about the music... most "artistes" didn't seem to be wearing many clothes either.... camera work was crap .. all those things and more could explain it.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. As I said in the video, it was always a little bit camp, but in a good-humoured way. These days it just seems to be all about making it as gay as possible. It needs a complete reboot. Too many songs in recent years have only got through on shock value or novelty value. Baby Lasagne is a case in point.

@endlessstudent3512

Ай бұрын

If that was an issue, the french, italian, german candidates would have been higher.

Because Eurovision is a family show, not a live sex show and that's how the performance looked. It was all wrong and even vulgar at points.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

26 күн бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Completely agree. Definitely not appropriate for a family show on the BBC. Perhaps after 11 on Channel 4.

Who cares about the gay olympics?

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

The gay Olympians!🏆

I think the tune was catchy but they overdid the gayness.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. The gayness was off the chart. And it wasn't just the fact it was too gay, but it was inappropriate for the audience. Imagine if it had been women who were being sexualised like that. It wouldn't have been permitted.

@Test_Card_Tom

Ай бұрын

Perhaps he should have worn a skirt like the winner? Would that be less Gay for you? His song just wasn't good enough. Nothing to do with too much Gayness. After all a bearded man in drag has previously won it (Dana International).

@endlessstudent3512

Ай бұрын

@@Test_Card_Tom I disagree, it was maybe not the gayness, but it was indeed too much ondulating against each other, more than any woman/man action in any ESC ever. The femboy from switzerland did not hump another man on the stage. But in a way you are not wrong....the show might have been offputting, but if the song was a reall banger, it would have been placed higher. Song was boring and forgettable...thus the combination leads to bad results.

@Test_Card_Tom

Ай бұрын

@@endlessstudent3512 Yes that's the trouble with straight people they are okay with anything on television, in films or in public where they are all over each other in a suggestive way but want Gay people to keep their sexual inclinations hidden . As for no such sexual expression between man and woman being on the ESC before; Straight people just don't notice it and view their own behaviour as acceptable. Look at the guest singer who wore a mettalic bikini and strapped to a metal chair and writhing about suggestively with close-up camera shots that couldn't get closer to the action if it tried - not a peep from anyone about her overtly sexual performance.

Personally, I found it quite funny but I just couldn't take it serious compared to many other songs. Like I had the biggest laugh out of every performance with this one but that's it. Georgia for example had a much better song, sang much better and the performance was much much more impressive than what Olly did. If it was about whose was the most ridicoulous or if it was a comedy show, Olly would've probably placed much better.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

15 сағат бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I think a lot of people don't take it seriously. How could you? 🤣

@bannerjay3347

14 сағат бұрын

@@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy Yeah I think it was just a silly performance, but it doesn't deserve all the hate it got, it deserved the 0 points but not the hate imo.

Personally I haven't watched the Eurovision since the early 80s, but its not uncommon for the UK to do pretty poorly. I put it down to this Europe wide the UK music industry dominates, in terms of artists, sales, tours etc... If you are from Latvia and you are asked to perform at the Eurovision that's likely life changing winning or not, look at ABBA the Swedish music industry isn't known for turning out stars. In the UK being asked to perform at the Eurovision, likely is inconvenient and doesn't really enhance your exposure, thus the UK generally don't get very good artists and success isn't really that valuable to them. As for the Israeli singer and voting, I have friends in the US that don't know a single person that voted for Trump.. even though 74million people did.. My guess is that especially in Israel people got out and voted simply because it was more important to them.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Maybe the voting patterns don't represent political alliances as much as they share similar tastes in music? Who knows? There's always next year!

@mjc8281

Ай бұрын

​@@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy Sorry I should have been clearer with my analogy, it wasn't political its just simply that, for whatever reason you simply might not know large groups of people in a specific group... I'm sure Eminem likely doesn't have a huge following in West Virginia

@paddypleiner5518

Ай бұрын

No, the song was just shite and so was the performance

If it wasn't so gay I would have cast half my votes for him. Instead i cast all 20 for the Israel entry.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Maybe next year the BBC could get Oasis to reform. That might bring in some votes.

Want some advice? Ok... Try picking a vocalist with actual vocal ability. Try choosing a song that is not so grounded in sex/sexuality. Try planning a performance without an overtly sexual presentation. Try selecting a performer who isn't going to push "sex" (and "gay sex" at that) in our faces. This year was nauseating as a result. In addition, try finding an artist who is not part of the mouth-foaming political activist community. Someone who is musically talented but who doesn't feel they need to use the platform for pushing some (extreme) political opinions, alienating huge swathes of the audience in the process.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Excellent points. Unfortunately, nobody from the BBC will be reading this.

My favourites remain France and UK. France for the sheer beauty of his voice and song - but don't know why he suddenly wore a weird see-through outfit - not good. UK for a creative and fun song - and we certainly need some fun in today's dark world - I admit the dance routine wasn't suitable for a family audience. However, I am tired of all the unpleasant things constantly said about Olly on UK media - Madonna has been doing very raunchy dance routines for decades - and at 65 she's still trying to do them and has enjoyed a huge gay following for decades too... and I've never heard her criticised, even when singing live, she sang out of tune. Have watched 2 versions of Olly's song - he has a good voice and it's a great song - each to his own I guess.

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment, Martine. However, I disagree that Madonna isn't criticised. She is CONSTANTLY criticised for what she does --- for the clothes she wears (or almost doesn't wear), for the routines, and for her voice. Elton John famously criticised her "live" singing during her concerts several years ago. And there was her terrible performance at Eurovision in 2019 when her vocals sounded awful due to the autotune not working correctly. For decades she has been told to dress/act/behave/dance more appropriately for someone her age, but she does her own thing, and more power to her for not caring what the critics think. However, the difference between Madonna and Olly Alexander is that this was a one-off performance for a wide range of people. I can imagine that many people would be offended or disgusted by what looked like a gay orgy in a gym shower. If you watch Madonna, you expect something sexy. When you watch Eurovision, it should be appropriate for the whole family. And for a singing competition, his voice should have been much better. You may also remember that several years ago, the Polish entry was criticised for having women churning milk in a very suggestive way --- that was very tame compared to Olly's performance.

@martinebarnard-delaroche7438

Ай бұрын

@@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy I don't follow celebrities, not my thing, however, someone on Talk TV today said that Olly's performance was significantly less sexualised than a few of the other performers - I don't watch Eurovision and haven't done so for many years but via both French and English media it was pretty bad and not suitable for family viewing...

Compare it with Sam Ryder. Neither the voice or song was good enough. Out-outed by the very gay Spanish entry.

Cos its crap

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

I think you've hit the nail on the head

Because it was disgusting

@SMNN-SocialMediaNetworkN-sq6hy

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. I think quite a few people feel that way!